[03:24] <duoi> how usable is gnash?
[03:40] <mrdavid> anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on a seagate goflex home?
[10:02] <oliv3r> Hi; i'm playing around with a few things and want to do a debootstrap for an arm based board. is there a semi-official repository for thhis that has the main-arm(hf) package stuff?
[10:25] <oliv3r> ah, ports.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <oliv3r> yep that's what i was looking for; guess there's no mirrors for that, but that's ok; thanks all
[13:41] <wookey> duoi: gnash is very useable but because it only implements older actionscript variant it only works on a limited number of flash files/sites
[21:05] <mjrosenb> so... is it possible to get a non-armhf libc with debug symbols?
[21:45] <infinity> mjrosenb: non-armhf, as in...?
[21:46] <mjrosenb> softfp
[21:47] <infinity> mjrosenb: libc6-armel-dbgsym from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/e/eglibc/
[21:47] <mjrosenb> possibly called armel, I've had conflicting report about what exactly armel is.
[21:48] <mjrosenb> so add that url to my sources.list, then apt-get install libc6-armel-dbgsym ?
[21:50] <infinity> mjrosenb: echo "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com $(lsb_release -cs) main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install libc6-armel-dbgsym
[21:51] <infinity> Might also want: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 428D7C01
[21:51] <infinity> (Don't forget to add lines for -updates/-security if you're running a stable release)
[21:55] <mjrosenb> *nod*
[21:55] <mjrosenb> thanks!
[21:56] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555299/ :-/
[21:58] <infinity> mjrosenb: Like I said, don't forget to add sources.list lines for -security and -updates.
[21:59] <infinity> $(lsb_release -cs)-updates and $(lsb_release -cs)-security
[22:00] <infinity> I guess that's precise-updates and precise-security in your case.
[22:02] <mjrosenb> I added those two.  same error.
[22:05] <infinity> Did you run apt-get update afterward?
[22:10] <infinity> mjrosenb: FWIW, works fine here for me.
[22:13] <mjrosenb> yeah, but apt-get update failed to pull in a couple of files.  I can't imagine they'd affect anything though.
[22:13] <mjrosenb> oh, nevermind.  some of them look important
[22:13] <mjrosenb> Err http://ddebs.ubuntu.com precise/precise-updates armel Packages 404  Not Found
[22:14] <infinity> mjrosenb: Uhm, armel?
[22:14] <infinity> mjrosenb: I thought you were running armhf.
[22:15] <infinity> mjrosenb: If your base system is armel, then you don't need any of this libc6-armel business.  Just apt-get install libc6-dbg
[22:15] <mjrosenb> I'm pretty sure this is an armhf system.
[22:15] <infinity> (And why, oh god why, are you running armel?)
[22:15] <infinity> mjrosenb: If it's an armhf system, apt wouldn't be looking for armel sources...
[22:15] <infinity> Unless you're running multiarch.
[22:16] <infinity> Which I guess you might be.
[22:16] <mjrosenb> I set this system up a year and a half ago, I honestly don't remember anymore :-(
[22:16] <infinity> dpkg --print-architecture
[22:18] <mjrosenb> waiting for apt-get to complete...
[22:18] <mjrosenb>  dpkg --print-architecture
[22:18] <mjrosenb> armhf
[22:18] <mjrosenb> ok, it *is* an armhf system
[22:18] <mjrosenb> pretty sure I tried to set up multiarch on here.
[22:19] <infinity> Okay, then apt is looking for armel bits because you set up multiarch.
[22:19] <mjrosenb> and I have an el libc6, just not debug symbols
[22:19] <mjrosenb> which valgrind *really* wants.
[22:19] <infinity> You have libc6:armel, or libc6-armel:armhf?
[22:20] <infinity> dpkg -l libc6\* | grep ^i
[22:21] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555316/
[22:22] <infinity> Oh, those cross ones are useless to you.
[22:23] <infinity> So, just "apt-get install libc6-armel-dbgsym" as we were attempting before.  Assuming apt's grumpiness about your broken multiarch setup doesn't annoy it.
[22:25] <mjrosenb> what's the difference between -dbg and -dbgsym?
[22:26] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555317/ -- so it says I have held broken packages, I'm guessing 'held' is different from 'pinned', since I'm pretty sure I've never pinned a package on this system.
[22:29] <infinity> mjrosenb: That means that it's *not* getting ddebs for precise-updates.
[22:29] <infinity> What's your sources.list?
[22:32] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555332/
[22:32] <mjrosenb> oh right, so like I said, there were some 404's when running apt-get update
[22:33] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555337/ I initially thought they were all armhf.
[22:34] <infinity> mjrosenb: I only see a single line there for precise-security.  Nothing for precise or precise-updates.
[22:35] <infinity> OH!  No, you've added it all on one line.  You can't do that.
[22:36] <infinity> mjrosenb: That last line should be three lines, like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6764567/
[22:38] <mjrosenb> c.c whoops.
[22:38] <mjrosenb> I want to say that I'm new to debian/ubuntu
[22:38] <mjrosenb> but that would be a lie.
[22:39] <mjrosenb> need to pick someone up
[22:39] <infinity> mjrosenb: I usually use excuses like "I haven't slept much lately" or "I'm scatterbrained and overworked" or "I'm testing a new strain of superheroine".
[22:39] <mjrosenb> i'll report on it later.
[22:40] <infinity> superheroin, even.
[23:28] <lilstevie> infinity, heh I tend to go for "I'm tired"
[23:56] <mjrosenb> lilstevie: the thing was, it was 1740, and I'd woken up at 1400, after sleeping for 14 hours
[23:57] <lilstevie> mjrosenb, heh
[23:57] <lilstevie> you aren't meant to admit that
[23:57] <mjrosenb> I guess, 'I got a reasonable amount of sleep too recently' is as good an excuse as any.
[23:58] <mjrosenb> http://dpaste.com/1555453/
[23:58] <mjrosenb> well, that's a different error...
[23:58] <mjrosenb> oh, I guess I need to go nuke my multilib glibc?