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| * slangasek waves | 16:00 | |
| jodh | o/ | 16:01 |
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| slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 16:02:07 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:01 |
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| slangasek | #topic Lightning round | 16:02 |
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| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 16:02 |
| slangasek | doko stokachu stgraber barry jodh xnox slangasek cjwatson bdmurray | 16:02 |
| slangasek | doko: here? | 16:02 |
| doko | slangasek, sorry, let me go as last one | 16:04 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:04 |
| slangasek | stokachu: here? :) anything for the meeting? | 16:04 |
| stokachu | nothing this week :) | 16:04 |
| slangasek | ok, cool | 16:04 |
| slangasek | stgraber: | 16:04 |
| stgraber | sorry, haven't had time to prepare notes so I'll just type quickly :) | 16:05 |
| stgraber | a ton of LXC work this week, mostly bug fixes for unprivileged containers, reviewed a very large amount of last minute fixes | 16:05 |
| stgraber | introduced a new image-based template called lxc-download which uses pre-build containers from https://images.linuxcontainers.org | 16:05 |
| stokachu | stgraber: are unprivileged containers do-able now? | 16:05 |
| stgraber | those are built from our new jenkins setup at https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org | 16:06 |
| stgraber | I've also been working a bit on moving our other QA tasks over to Jenkins to make them more visible to those who don't have shell access to our servers | 16:06 |
| stgraber | I've also helped a bit with a security update for LXC | 16:06 |
| stgraber | release LXC 1.0 beta2 yesterday and upoaded to the archive (no more distro patch!) | 16:06 |
| stgraber | and I started updating my draft blog post on unprivileged containers which I plan on posting later today | 16:07 |
| stgraber | stokachu: yep they are. I have Ubuntu, Debian, Plamo and Oracle running fine unprivileged on my laptop and probably a few more distros to come over the next few days. | 16:07 |
| stokachu | stgraber: awesome!! | 16:07 |
| stgraber | stokachu: you need a very recent kernel and userspace though, which I'll try to describe in that upcoming blog post. | 16:07 |
| stokachu | stgraber: awesome, looking forward to that post | 16:08 |
| stgraber | besides LXC, I've also been doing a bit of touch work, mostly extending test coverage of my ports branch for system-image | 16:08 |
| stgraber | and talked with PES about how to setup internal servers | 16:08 |
| stgraber | (done) | 16:08 |
| barry | autopilot-py3: camera-app-autopilot, cordova-ubuntu-autopilot, dialer-app-autopilot, friends-app-autopilot, ubuntu-ui-toolkit. however, the PPAs all this stuff depends on is in sad shape. had some discussions with #ubuntu-autopilot about what we need next (mostly ci infrastructure support). played around with autopilot+emulator. actually managed to get u-u-t built, tested, and merge proposed. not so much with other packages :(. | 16:09 |
| barry | bug tag: py3autopilot. progress will mostly depend on completion of qt5.2 transition. | 16:09 |
| barry | debuntu: python-coverage sponsorship, patch piloted, dmb meeting. | 16:09 |
| barry | py34 related test rebuild failures: nose, cinder, genshi (in progress upstream), configglue, fixtures, etc. | 16:09 |
| barry | done | 16:09 |
| jodh | * core-1311-upstart-roadmap | 16:09 |
| jodh | - cgroup support: | 16:09 |
| jodh | - cgroup manager: Added ability for client to establish if directory | 16:09 |
| jodh | existed when create requested (required by Upstart to avoid | 16:09 |
| jodh | removing groups it did not create). | 16:09 |
| jodh | - upstart: | 16:09 |
| jodh | - Implemented logic to block jobs that require the cgmanager until | 16:09 |
| jodh | it becomes available. | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Added code to remove a cgroup when no longer required. | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Finished updating basic cgroup unit tests. | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Updated code to work with cgmanager v0.12. | 16:10 |
| jodh | - async spawning: Investigating a bug with script jobs, found in testing. | 16:10 |
| jodh | * upstart: | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Merged lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/telinit-private-socket (thanks for | 16:10 |
| jodh | review stgraber) | 16:10 |
| jodh | - Investigations into the cause of bug 1269731. Unable to | 16:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1269731 in upstart (Ubuntu) "init crashed with SIGSEGV" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269731 | 16:10 |
| jodh | recreate the problem, but atleast we now have a stack trace to | 16:10 |
| jodh | identify the offending instruction. | 16:10 |
| jodh | 🀤 | 16:10 |
| slangasek | no xnox this week | 16:11 |
| slangasek | * upstream pam work to get pam_loginuid fixed in containers for stgraber, then got an itch to do a bunch more upstreaming work, so: | 16:11 |
| slangasek | * pam 1.1.8 uploaded to Debian unstable, planning to upload to trusty as soon as I have a chance to test it on the phone | 16:11 |
| slangasek | * forwarding of other Debian,Ubuntu patches to pam now that we're caught up with upstream | 16:11 |
| slangasek | * internal discussions about the Qt 5.2 ABI change: trying to understand its impact on the phone and the app store, getting my hands dirty with abi-compliance-checker | 16:11 |
| slangasek | * discussions around openjdk support in trusty | 16:12 |
| slangasek | (done) | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | 12.04.4: | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | - More saucy enablement stack work, now in -updates. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | - Miscellaneous reviews and e-mail. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | click: | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | - Trying to get libclick up and running. I've decided on the general architecture (gobject-based C library with introspection, so I can translate a bit at a time reasonably easily), and have translated parts of click.{database,osextras,query}. Will take a while longer to have something worth using. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | GRUB: | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | - Reviewed and applied ppc64 bi-endian patch. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | - Continuing to try to get 2.02~beta2 ready for trusty. Slowed down by a test regression (floppy boot failure due to increased module size, of all things), but I got that fixed today. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | Miscellaneous: | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - A few cross-build fixes (apg, bridge-utils, dctrl-tools; switched libtool back to Multi-Arch: foreign for now; multiarched cdebconf to fix base-passwd cross-build regression). | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed gucharmap for ppc64el. | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | - Perl 5.18.2 transition. | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | . | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | bug triage, SRU reviews | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | uploaded a complete fix for bug 1237119 | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | set up of error tracker in canonistack using juju-deployer | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | worked on a whoopsie issue where it is not uploading files immediately | 16:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1237119 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "ERROR: hook /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_gnome-control-center.py crashed: TypeError: add_info() takes 1 positional argument but 2 were given" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237119 | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | done | 16:13 |
| doko | - another two full days of merges, component mismatches | 16:14 |
| doko | - finished some "debian-science" transitions. the good thing is that nobody uses these packages and in doubt can | 16:14 |
| doko | be removed ;p | 16:14 |
| doko | - maybe another day processing MIRs | 16:14 |
| doko | - continue to pester people about ftbfs, unfinished transitions | 16:14 |
| doko | - openjdk security update | 16:14 |
| doko | - graphviz transition | 16:14 |
| doko | - regtested and backported fixed for two arm64 gcc regressions | 16:14 |
| doko | - gccgo updates | 16:14 |
| doko | - updates for some ppc64el packages in main | 16:14 |
| doko | - finished and summarized the outcome of the libtool-bin test rebuild | 16:14 |
| doko | - finished and summarized the "openjdk-not-in-main" test rebuild | 16:14 |
| doko | - finished and summarized the python3.4 as the default test rebuild (main only) | 16:14 |
| doko | - updated the arm64 cross toolchain for glibc-2.18 | 16:14 |
| doko | - built eclipse for arm64 and ppc64el | 16:14 |
| doko | (done) | 16:15 |
| slangasek | ok - any questions on status? | 16:17 |
| slangasek | #topic AOB | 16:18 |
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| slangasek | anything else this week? | 16:18 |
| slangasek | apparently not :) | 16:20 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:20 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 16:20:35 2014 UTC. | 16:20 |
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| jodh | thanks! | 16:20 |
| slangasek | thanks, guys - short and sweet | 16:20 |
| doko | tired about playing the cleaning lady for others :-/ | 16:20 |
| barry | \o/ | 16:20 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | doko, shouldnt that be "room nurse" for political correctness ? | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | hi folks, just gathering up CC members for the meeting | 17:02 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 17:02 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: highvoltage: are you around to talk about Edubuntu? | 17:04 |
| pleia2 | #startmeeting | 17:05 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 17:05:21 2014 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:05 |
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| pleia2 | we have Edubuntu and Lubuntu on the schedule for today | 17:05 |
| pleia2 | anyone from Lubuntu about for a checkin? | 17:05 |
| stgraber | mhall119: vaguely (having lunch) | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | or Edubuntu, hey stgraber! | 17:07 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: ok, it's just a checkin, so shouldn't require much | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | #topic Edubuntu check in | 17:08 |
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| pleia2 | I understand Edubuntu has been more focused on LTS releases, are things on track this cycle? | 17:08 |
| czajkowski | stgraber: ? | 17:10 |
| stgraber | well, not much has been happening lately but I still hope to get most bits landed before feature freeze | 17:10 |
| stgraber | I've been pretty busy with other things so far | 17:10 |
| stgraber | we did have an alpha1 though | 17:10 |
| pleia2 | that's good, anything the CC can help the team with with, or just general manpower blockers? | 17:11 |
| highvoltage | o/ | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | hey highvoltage :) | 17:11 |
| highvoltage | hey! | 17:11 |
| stgraber | general manpower blockers. I hope that edubuntu-server will help get more contributors later on. | 17:12 |
| stgraber | our decision to stop doing non-LTS releases should also help a lot once 14.04 is out the door | 17:12 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:12 | |
| highvoltage | pleia2: did you see the mails last month regarding the edubuntu council / re-elections and the question of whether we strictly need a council per se? | 17:12 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: where did that email get sent? | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | highvoltage: yeah | 17:13 |
| stgraber | mhall119: CC mailing-list I believe | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | I'm thinking we go with the idea of dissolving the council, but I should follow up | 17:13 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: community council and edubuntu council mailing lists | 17:13 |
| mhall119 | hmmm, must have missed it | 17:14 |
| stgraber | mhall119: "Edubuntu Council expiring 2013-12-20" | 17:14 |
| highvoltage | pleia2: I think in general the Edubuntu community still needs a community reboot of a kind (as it has for the last few cycles). | 17:14 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:14 | |
| pleia2 | so in that thread we decided to wait until after the holidays (indeed, the whole thing got lost in my holiday backlog :)) | 17:15 |
| highvoltage | only problem is that everyone is eager to get involved with that but no one has the time | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: stgraber: if you need the community team's help in promoting such a reboot, get in touch with me | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 17:15 |
| highvoltage | sorry stgraber I didn't mean to derail your train of thought on the technical stuff :) | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | so the proposal in the thread was to remove the council and simply make stgraber and highvoltage co-leaders, which I'm still on board with | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | I'll follow up | 17:16 |
| highvoltage | pleia2: great | 17:16 |
| stgraber | pleia2: thanks | 17:16 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: didn't have much more to report ;) | 17:16 |
| stgraber | mhall119: we may take you up on that offer at some point. Currently I think we're in the situation where the effort required for such a reboot would drain a lot of the limited time we have to get the technical stuff done for 14.04. | 17:17 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: in terms of goals for this cycle we're likely to focus on two areas, getting the edubuntu-server parts in a 1.0'ish state and getting some legacy desktop stuff (gnome flashback) in better state so that it's supportable for an LTS lifecycle | 17:17 |
| highvoltage | (oops, didn't mean to aim that at stgraber) | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | cool | 17:17 |
| stgraber | so I think it's best to focus on the release, make sure 14.04 is good and then we'll have 2 years to try and rebuild our community until the next release | 17:18 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: *nod*, I think that reboot should happen post-lts-release | 17:18 |
| mhall119 | stgraber: I'd be happy to help coordinate a reboot, both as a community team members and as an edubuntu community volunteer | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | sounds like a plan :) | 17:18 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: awesome :D | 17:18 |
| mhall119 | what DE is edubuntu using these days? | 17:19 |
| highvoltage | unity by default with gnome flashback | 17:19 |
| stgraber | Unity by default, gnome-flashback as an alternative and default for LTSP | 17:19 |
| mhall119 | ok | 17:19 |
| highvoltage | the installer has an option to enable gnome flashback by default | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | ianorlin has joined us for the lubuntu team | 17:19 |
| mhall119 | is that well supported? | 17:19 |
| highvoltage | personally I'm not a fan of unity since the dash is extremely confusing for new users | 17:19 |
| highvoltage | and apps are hard too find | 17:20 |
| mhall119 | by upstream Ubuntu and/or upstream Gnome? | 17:20 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: there's a small upstream team | 17:20 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: I'm part of it, it needs a lot of work to keep it on life support | 17:20 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: well, at least we don't have remote search enabled by default! | 17:20 |
| highvoltage | (since the rest of the gnome world is changing so fast) | 17:20 |
| ogra_ | highvoltage, well, mate-desktop is in now | 17:20 |
| highvoltage | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback | 17:21 |
| * mhall119 will pick your brains about stuff in #edubuntu later :) | 17:21 | |
| pleia2 | ok, thanks highvoltage and stgraber! | 17:21 |
| mhall119 | thanks guys | 17:21 |
| highvoltage | ogra_: problem with mate-desktop is that it brings in the rest of the mate world, which is a clone of every gnome tool ever made (gedit, nautilus, gcalctool, etc) | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | lovely | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | #topic Lubuntu checkin | 17:21 |
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| highvoltage | ogra_: but I'd be happy to go only mate and through out unity if you can convince stgraber of that :p | 17:22 |
| highvoltage | (thanks I'll move on now :p) | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | ianorlin: so during these checkins, we pretty much just ask about the state of the project/community and see if there is any way we can help out :) | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | highvoltage, your job, not mine anymore ;) | 17:22 |
| ianorlin | Most of lubuntu is focusing on 14.04 now and 14.04 plan is fixing bugs | 17:23 |
| ianorlin | the social media areas seem to keep having more users join | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | great | 17:23 |
| ianorlin | although the QA mailing list has grown a little quiet lately | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I had noticed that | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | I did a few tests on lubuntu ppc, but the holidays got pretty busy for me | 17:24 |
| ianorlin | hasn't picked up much since then although I think trusty is running right now | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | is there anything the CC can do to help support the team, or do you think it's just a matter of getting more folks active/involved? | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | we're here to help resolve community and technical blockers with resources and things | 17:26 |
| ianorlin | I can't think of anything | 17:26 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:26 | |
| pleia2 | thanks for joing us today, anyone else have any questions/comments? | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | ok, I think that's it then | 17:30 |
| pleia2 | #topic Any other business | 17:30 |
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| pleia2 | anything else on our radar today that we wanted to chat about? | 17:31 |
| mhall119 | not from me | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | ok, thanks everyone :) | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 17:34 |
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