| Dandel | mlankhor1t, Any idea on what will happen now that XvMC is disabled by default in mesa? ( as a hint, it's due to failed unit tests on R300 and R600 gallium drivers ) | 03:18 |
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| RAOF | We'd like to turn on the actually useful acceleration (ie: vdpau). | 03:23 |
| Sarvatt | xvmc was never useful, xv and vdpau werent enabled in debian/ubuntu mesa because of the regressions it causes, what? | 03:42 |
| RAOF | Oh, what regressions does vdpau support cause? | 03:43 |
| RAOF | Applications start trying to use it, and fail? | 03:43 |
| Sarvatt | mpeg2 doesnt work on radeon for one | 03:43 |
| Sarvatt | if its enabled it tries to use it and just doesn't work | 03:44 |
| Sarvatt | i think the next stable 10.x mesa release might fix that at least | 03:45 |
| Sarvatt | some playback apps try to use vdpau if its available, trying to watch an mpeg2 video means it wont work | 03:47 |
| Sarvatt | aka it broke xbmc playback of recorded tv shows | 03:48 |
| Sarvatt | flash uses vdpau if its available too | 03:49 |
| Sarvatt | it advertises mpeg2 acceleration but doesnt work | 03:52 |
| Sarvatt | 10.0.2 should do shader based decoding on radeon afaik and make it work, not sure its actually been picked up in stable | 03:57 |
| RAOF | t | 04:00 |
| RAOF | We wouldn't actually be installing the vdpau libs by default though, would we? | 04:00 |
| RAOF | That'd be opt-in breakage :) | 04:00 |
| RAOF | Another option would seem to be patching out the "yah, I support mpeg2" bit. | 04:01 |
| Sarvatt | 14.04 will for sure have it, but mesa 10.x wasnt good enough imo | 04:03 |
| Sarvatt | 10.0.x rather | 04:05 |
| Sarvatt | i guess thats true, it could be opt in | 04:13 |
| jarkko_ | i had 13.10 and not much happened there, but now i upgraded into 14.04 and i get lots of updates... | 04:32 |
| jarkko_ | there was quite a lot some appamor skipping while installing/updating system | 04:32 |
| tjaalton | jarkko_: feel free to reinstall 13.10 if you don't like that. 14.04 isn't released yet so yes you get daily updates until late april or so.. | 05:43 |
| jarkko_ | daily updates? | 05:44 |
| jarkko_ | someone must be busy then | 05:44 |
| jarkko_ | i dont see any change in this | 05:44 |
| jarkko_ | boot time could be better | 05:44 |
| tjaalton | well we tried to see if mesa 10 fixed radeon for you, then while it was updating you got the upstream bug report saying it's still broken | 05:46 |
| tjaalton | so if you like a quiet distro with fglrx, stick to 13.10 | 05:46 |
| jarkko_ | i am not going to switch back | 05:46 |
| jarkko_ | no reason | 05:47 |
| jarkko_ | installing closed source drivers this boots normally again | 05:47 |
| tjaalton | yes but they'll break soon :) | 05:50 |
| jarkko_ | ? | 05:50 |
| jarkko_ | what do you mean | 05:50 |
| tjaalton | the xserver will be updated and we don't have working fglrx for it just yet | 05:51 |
| tjaalton | but you can just not blindly update and wait until it's settled | 05:51 |
| jarkko_ | to the newest x.org? | 05:51 |
| tjaalton | yes | 05:51 |
| jarkko_ | would think that ati releases new drivers soon which has a newer kernel support or newer xorg support | 05:52 |
| jarkko_ | there is something broken in this style of coding, if the api changes from every release that ati doesnt work | 05:52 |
| tjaalton | it was released last month, they're just slow | 05:54 |
| jarkko_ | do you know when xorg is going to pushed? | 05:57 |
| tjaalton | maybe next week | 05:57 |
| jarkko_ | what's new in latest xorg? | 06:14 |
| mlankhor1t | Dandel: not pretty much everything said above, if you want to enable vdpau you can build yourself :p | 08:21 |
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