[03:18] mlankhor1t, Any idea on what will happen now that XvMC is disabled by default in mesa? ( as a hint, it's due to failed unit tests on R300 and R600 gallium drivers ) [03:23] We'd like to turn on the actually useful acceleration (ie: vdpau). [03:42] xvmc was never useful, xv and vdpau werent enabled in debian/ubuntu mesa because of the regressions it causes, what? [03:43] Oh, what regressions does vdpau support cause? [03:43] Applications start trying to use it, and fail? [03:43] mpeg2 doesnt work on radeon for one [03:44] if its enabled it tries to use it and just doesn't work [03:45] i think the next stable 10.x mesa release might fix that at least [03:47] some playback apps try to use vdpau if its available, trying to watch an mpeg2 video means it wont work [03:48] aka it broke xbmc playback of recorded tv shows [03:49] flash uses vdpau if its available too [03:52] it advertises mpeg2 acceleration but doesnt work [03:57] 10.0.2 should do shader based decoding on radeon afaik and make it work, not sure its actually been picked up in stable [04:00] t [04:00] We wouldn't actually be installing the vdpau libs by default though, would we? [04:00] That'd be opt-in breakage :) [04:01] Another option would seem to be patching out the "yah, I support mpeg2" bit. [04:03] 14.04 will for sure have it, but mesa 10.x wasnt good enough imo [04:05] 10.0.x rather [04:13] i guess thats true, it could be opt in [04:32] i had 13.10 and not much happened there, but now i upgraded into 14.04 and i get lots of updates... [04:32] there was quite a lot some appamor skipping while installing/updating system [05:43] jarkko_: feel free to reinstall 13.10 if you don't like that. 14.04 isn't released yet so yes you get daily updates until late april or so.. [05:44] daily updates? [05:44] someone must be busy then [05:44] i dont see any change in this [05:44] boot time could be better [05:46] well we tried to see if mesa 10 fixed radeon for you, then while it was updating you got the upstream bug report saying it's still broken [05:46] so if you like a quiet distro with fglrx, stick to 13.10 [05:46] i am not going to switch back [05:47] no reason [05:47] installing closed source drivers this boots normally again [05:50] yes but they'll break soon :) [05:50] ? [05:50] what do you mean [05:51] the xserver will be updated and we don't have working fglrx for it just yet [05:51] but you can just not blindly update and wait until it's settled [05:51] to the newest x.org? [05:51] yes [05:52] would think that ati releases new drivers soon which has a newer kernel support or newer xorg support [05:52] there is something broken in this style of coding, if the api changes from every release that ati doesnt work [05:54] it was released last month, they're just slow [05:57] do you know when xorg is going to pushed? [05:57] maybe next week [06:14] what's new in latest xorg? [08:21] Dandel: not pretty much everything said above, if you want to enable vdpau you can build yourself :p === jcristau_ is now known as jcristau === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa === mlankhor1t is now known as mlankhorst