[02:06] <sgclark> reviewboard does not like these quilt diffs, how do you guys submit patches for review upstream?
[02:10] <shadeslayer> sgclark: apply to git repo, run git diff
[02:11] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok cool, I know how to work with the master, thanks!
[02:13] <sgclark> shadeslayer: Riddell was saying something about debian-bugs but I don't know what he means, that was not a choice.
[02:14] <shadeslayer> what did he say exactly?
[02:16] <sgclark> let me see if I cn find a log, it was many hours ago
[02:20] <sgclark> shadeslayer: nevermind I misread
[05:33] <Mirv> Riddell: trying to rebuild yes, but it feels like something is wrong with PPA builders' dependency resolving.. locally doing what the PPA should be doing works, but complaints on the builder. sil2100 noticed similar earlier, and I thought it was just something rationally explainable.
[07:25] <JamesF> Quintasan : im back .Are you there ?
[07:37] <apachelogger> Quintasan, yofel: how are different versions for different pieces of software confusing?
[07:48] <shadeslayer> ^^
[07:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oi, is there documentation on how to write a dbus session file
[07:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: session file?
[07:51] <apachelogger> what's a session file?
[07:51] <shadeslayer> dbus session service
[07:51] <apachelogger> that's a dbus service file :P
[07:51] <shadeslayer> right, that thing :P
[07:51] <apachelogger> becaus a service can also be on the system bus :P
[07:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: have you look at the dbus docs?
[07:52] <shadeslayer> ah yes, found it
[07:52] <shadeslayer> ofcourse, it's documented on a blog
[07:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dunno, this is all pretty unspecified actually
[07:55] <apachelogger> cause if it's not part of the spec it aint true and the spec literally says 'service files are like desktop files'
[07:56] <apachelogger> and that's it
[07:56] <apachelogger> ..
[07:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Autostart_Services
[07:56] <apachelogger> apparently only the two entires name and exec are supported anyway
[07:56] <apachelogger> where name is the bus path the service register on
[07:58] <apachelogger> somehow my inbox is a mess every morning
[07:58] <apachelogger> and I am not even sure why
[07:58] <apachelogger> oh bug 329994 fixed, nice
[08:01] <apachelogger> hm
[08:08] <apachelogger> kde bug 329994 even
[08:08] <apachelogger> and now I found another bug while verifying the fix
[08:08] <apachelogger> life's curel :/
[08:57] <yofel> apachelogger: I was talking about the announcement, I'm fine with the versions
[08:59] <shadeslayer> soooo, I'm going to be mostly unavailable till Tuesday
[08:59] <shadeslayer> anything I should do before leaving?
[09:01] <shadeslayer> odd, I thought I uploaded libiberty
[09:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fyi ubiquity slideshows still show rekonq
[09:02] <shadeslayer> and they say "Firefox and Chromium are available from repos"
[09:02] <apachelogger> man this is so not fun
[09:02] <shadeslayer> might want to update that / add a trello card
[09:02] <apachelogger> 9 review iterations
[09:03] <apachelogger> somewhere along review5 I detailed exactly what the correct solution must look like
[09:03] <apachelogger> now we are back where review5 started, the correct solution has still not been implemented -.-
[09:03] <shadeslayer> ??
[09:03] <apachelogger> yofel: what's with the announcement?
[09:03] <shadeslayer> what are thy babbling about
[09:03] <apachelogger> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112076/
[09:04] <apachelogger> 'KDE Ships January Updates to Applications and Platform'
[09:04] <shadeslayer> lol did the submitter give their own patch a ship it?
[09:04] <apachelogger> yofel: there is the platform (kdelibs) there is the workspace (kde-workspace) and there's applications (everything else)
[09:04] <shadeslayer> twice
[09:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes...
[09:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fun fun fun
[09:05] <shadeslayer> when did debian-keyring become ESOHUGE 0.o
[09:05] <apachelogger> it always was
[09:05] <shadeslayer> 47 MB's .... 
[09:05] <yofel> apachelogger: "Starting with the 4.12.2 releases, the KDE Workspaces 4.11.x releases will be synchronized with those of KDE Applications and Development Platform 4.12.x."
[09:05] <yofel> Quintasan confused me to the point where I read "version" into that, not "date"
[09:05] <apachelogger> lol
[09:06] <apachelogger> TBH I think it would have made more sense if they had just kept bumping the workspace number
[09:06] <apachelogger> I mean, that's what is happing for kdelibs
[09:06] <apachelogger> it's frozen, except it gets new major version releases
[09:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no shit ...
[09:06] <apachelogger> but
[09:06] <apachelogger> buuuuuuuuuut
[09:06] <apachelogger> there is a grave technical difference
[09:07] <apachelogger> kdelibs master = 4.x
[09:07] <apachelogger> kde-workspace master = 5.x
[09:07] <apachelogger> so in fact a kde-workspace 4.12.0 would have been released/branched/whatever from the KDE/4.11 branch
[09:07] <shadeslayer> but that's merely because kde-workspace hasn't exploded into a million repos
[09:07] <apachelogger> so I can see why they did not go for that option
[09:07] <apachelogger> though truth be told I would simply not have made master 5.x :P
[09:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[09:08] <apachelogger> there is no reason why workspace would need to hijack master to develop 5.x
[09:08] <apachelogger> all the reasons that were brought up back then for doing it are without any basis
[09:09] <apachelogger> "won't be able to prevent master from getting new feature proposals and stuff for 4.x...."
[09:09] <apachelogger> seems to work well enough for kdelibs :P
[09:09] <shadeslayer> WHERE DID LIBIBERTY GO!?!?!
[09:10] <shadeslayer> I uploaded it this morning
[09:10] <shadeslayer> to ninjas
[09:10] <shadeslayer> wtf
[09:11] <apachelogger> lol
[09:11] <apachelogger> packages hiding now
[09:11] <apachelogger> oh to hell with this
[09:11] <apachelogger> I am done with mails for the day and then new bugs come in
[09:11] <apachelogger> :@
[09:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: maybe it got rejected btw
[09:12] <shadeslayer> I have no rejection email
[09:12] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[09:12] <shadeslayer> yes
[09:12] <shadeslayer> MAGICALLY APPEARING EMAIL
[09:13] <apachelogger> <- pipes all launchpad mails except bugs into trash
[09:13] <apachelogger> consequently I never notice when shit gets rejected
[09:13] <apachelogger> of course I am not the one sending 3000 emails to one person per day
[09:13] <apachelogger> so not really my fault
[09:14] <shadeslayer> yofel:  Deleted on 2014-01-06 by Philip Muškovac 
[09:14] <shadeslayer> whyyy :(
[09:14] <shadeslayer> kde-dev-utils is waiting on it :(
[09:14] <yofel> isn't in in backports? I needed ninjas for 4.11.5
[09:14] <shadeslayer> too bad jr uploaded 4.12.1 there?
[09:15] <yofel> no, that was me, 4.11.5 is in proposed
[09:15] <yofel> so back to 4.12
[09:15] <shadeslayer> oh
[09:15] <yofel> but yeah, my wipe caused some colleteral damage :/
[09:15] <shadeslayer> I'm so confused, anyway, what should I do
[09:15] <apachelogger> get another ninja ppa?
[09:16] <shadeslayer> no, too slow, we need a apachelogger ppa
[09:16] <shadeslayer> we throw stuff in it and all the bugs get fixed forever
[09:17] <apachelogger> well, short of getting one of those I was thinking a regular PPA so that 4.12 and 4.11 don't conflict with one another
[09:17] <apachelogger> of course I totally do not remember how to get a private PPA
[09:18] <shadeslayer> :)
[09:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: question on LP I suppose?
[09:21] <apachelogger> well, I am not sure if we create a ppa and get that privatized or we ask for a new ppa to be create and be private :P
[09:22] <apachelogger> also there was something peculiar about private ppas I think
[09:22] <apachelogger> ah well
[09:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: file a question plz :P
[09:23] <yofel> that you had to pay for them usually? ^^
[09:23] <apachelogger> do you?
[09:24] <apachelogger> I thought that was native ppas
[09:24] <apachelogger> anyways... not that
[09:24] <shadeslayer> no, you have to pay for P3A's
[09:24] <apachelogger> maybe only one private ppa per team or so
[09:24] <apachelogger> something weird
[09:24] <apachelogger> or maybe I am making it up
[09:24] <apachelogger> who knows
[09:25] <apachelogger> /build/buildd/project-neon5-kde-workspace-0.0+git20140117~64b463b+neon18~13.10/plasma/generic/dataengines/share/shareprovider.cpp:28:38: fatal error: KJsEmbed/variant_binding.h: No such file or directory
[09:25]  * apachelogger sighs a bit
[09:27] <apachelogger> also something is wrong with the neon5 builder
[09:27] <apachelogger> don't have a mail of today's autobuild in my inbox :O
[09:31] <apachelogger>  project-neon5-qt5 : Depends: libxcb-sync0 which is a virtual package.
[09:31] <apachelogger>                      Depends: libxcb-xfixes0 but it is not going to be installed.
[09:31] <apachelogger> man, I hate +1 library transition time
[09:31] <yofel> first shadeslayer is loosing emails and now you are
[09:32] <yofel> this day doesn't start well ^^
[09:32] <shadeslayer> It can only get better
[09:32] <apachelogger> nah the mail was there, it just was so huge that the relevant parts didn't get searched :P
[09:33] <apachelogger> one can scroll for days in that log
[09:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: "I had a problem with having separate screen functions in engineHasVideoChanged() where Dragon was unstable and generally crashed a ton.
[09:38] <apachelogger> Fortunately with both backends I've tested (VLC and GStreamer) in the terminal I get a nice KNotificationRestrictions debug message that appears when the video stream starts, and also reappears when the stream is paused and resumed. I think the original problem was that I was not requesting that hasVideo apply to KNotificationRestrictions."
[09:38] <apachelogger> it works for me, so it must work for all the worlds -.-
[09:38]  * apachelogger goes on coffee break before someone gets hurt
[09:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1270085
[09:45] <apachelogger> there's a card for that
[09:45] <apachelogger> also you need to milestone
[09:46] <apachelogger> also mention it on the card
[09:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how does ff sound
[09:55] <shadeslayer> hmm, ff in one month :/
[10:12] <apachelogger> there are so many bad cards -.-
[10:12] <apachelogger> 'Firefox: figure out a way to get plugin install working.'
[10:12] <apachelogger> makes me cry
[10:13] <apachelogger> jussi: should we postpone the activity to explain acitivites card?
[10:23] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: ping
[10:23] <jarkko_> btw what is causing that if you use dragon player and close it, it opens itself shortly and closes again
[10:23] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: https://trello.com/c/Mw5FBYpI please clearify what you mean there
[10:24] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/CTEXKsY.png
[10:24] <apachelogger> also it seems those colors are only dependent on the filesystem in use
[10:24] <apachelogger> jarkko_: bug in phonon gstreamer
[10:25] <apachelogger> thought that was fixed
[10:25] <apachelogger> !info phonon-backend-gstreamer trusty
[10:25] <jarkko_> apachelogger: hard to fix?
[10:25] <apachelogger> !info phonon-backend-gstreamer saucy
[10:25] <apachelogger> jarkko_: should be fixed actually
[10:26] <jarkko_> well i removed dragon player just recently
[10:26] <jarkko_> but i did see the bug before removing it. i just dont remember when i saw the bug
[10:29] <apachelogger> kde bug 305333
[10:29] <apachelogger> oh wait
[10:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: why do we have phonon gstreamer 4.6?
[10:30] <apachelogger> upstream is at 4.7
[10:31] <apachelogger> 4.7.1 in proposed for some reason
[10:31] <apachelogger> phono vlc 0.7.1 also stuck in proposed
[10:31] <apachelogger> and phonon as well
[10:32] <jarkko_> for what udftools are used? i saw them just updated, i dont remember what but 13.10 said something about udf when shutting down
[10:36] <Riddell> phonon-backend-gstreamer: Installed: 4:4.7.0really4.6.3-0ubuntu2
[10:36] <Riddell> we do have 4.7
[10:36] <Riddell> alas the qt5 build has made it get stuck in proposed
[10:36] <Riddell> because of qtscript I think
[10:37] <apachelogger> out of date on arm64: libphonon-dev, libphonon4, libphononexperimental-dev, libphononexperimental4, phonon, phonon-backend-null, phonon-dbg (from 4:4.7.0.0-2ubuntu3)
[10:37] <apachelogger> out of date on ppc64el: libphonon-dev, libphonon4, libphononexperimental-dev, libphononexperimental4, phonon, phonon-backend-null, phonon-dbg (from 4:4.7.0.0-2ubuntu3)
[10:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: indeed
[10:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: can we get that stuff manually pushed to release?
[10:38]  * Riddell announces a tidied up http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ page
[10:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: dunno the other archive admins never like things being forced in even to accomodate powerpc
[10:39] <Riddell> my plan is to wait for Mirv to upload qt5.2 then worry
[10:39] <soee> Riddell: this 2 packages i mentioned yeterday are gone (installed/updated) are they fixed ?
[10:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: going to create a card then...
[10:40] <Riddell> soee: I don't know I'm afraid, not monitoring them, I'm on a KF5 push
[10:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: alternatively you could simply fiddle the rules to not build the qt5 stuff on arm64/ppc
[10:40] <Riddell> which means I have 853 unprocessed e-mails so maybe I should have a break at some point
[10:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: debian's lisandro also said he'd prefer the qt5 build to be a separate source package so maybe I should just do that
[10:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'd also find that cleaner TBH
[10:42] <apachelogger> multibuild always seems like such a useless pain
[10:44] <Riddell> yeah well it was you who made it so one upstream source could be built two ways :)
[10:44] <Riddell> any sensible upstream would just release two sources :)
[10:49] <apachelogger> it would still be the same source :P
[10:52] <Mirv> (qt 5.2 PPA issues resolved, qt5-beta2 again usable to the extent rebuilds have been successfully done)
[10:52] <Riddell> Mirv: awooga!
[10:53] <Riddell> Mirv: still on course to get 5.2 in the archive in 14.04?
[11:05] <Mirv> Riddell: sure, just many problems with Qt itself as well. with some debugging help it's turning out at least qtdeclarative needs to be 5.2.1 and probably even patches on top of that. the V4 has turned out to be slightly problematic.
[11:05] <Mirv> I'm just getting a new snapshot ready and see if it helps with some of the crashers / test failures we have
[11:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: maintscripts in kubuntu-settings changed in latest commit in case you want to take a look at it to prevent breakage
[11:13] <apachelogger> 34 cards to go for 14.04 :S
[11:14] <jarkko_> does someone know if i can have 5.1 sounds on desktop?
[11:14] <jarkko_> i have system able to do it
[11:15] <apachelogger> a support channel may
[11:33] <apachelogger> I really should work on kcm locale, but I really don't wanna :/
[11:33] <Riddell> I think many people feel the same
[11:34] <jarkko> what's the name of support chan?
[11:36] <Riddell> jarkko: #kubuntu and #ubuntu (sorry for being rude but we don't know)
[11:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you know whether k3b is maintained?
[11:37] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=k3b.git&a=shortlog&h=34c7d5e94863df5a603f7df5fb1b7a2df875b326
[11:37] <apachelogger> because it looks like on life support
[11:37] <apachelogger> then again, maybe it has all the features in the world ^^
[11:37] <jarkko> where could i follow what's happning?
[11:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'm pretty sure it's not
[11:38] <Riddell> and I never use it any more so I don't even test it
[11:38] <apachelogger> +1
[11:38] <apachelogger> that's a problem btw
[11:38] <apachelogger> should be kicked off the seed :P
[11:38] <Riddell> there's a good argument for that
[11:39] <apachelogger> also I have no idea what to do with k3b bugs, so I mostly just ignore them
[11:39] <apachelogger> plus I have no knowledge of the entire thing so even if I felt the need to fiddle with them I wouldn't know how to triage them anywhere but upstream and since upstream doesn't exist...
[11:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you know how ubuntu-release-upgrader is updated?
[11:42] <apachelogger> (the thing that gets downloaded to do the distro upgrade)
[11:43] <Riddell> hmm, I always left that to mvo
[11:43] <Riddell> does the package built stuff?
[11:44] <Riddell> something will build http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/
[11:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes looking in the debian/rules of ubuntu-release-upgrader that's what makes it
[11:46] <apachelogger> yeah, just noticed
[11:46] <apachelogger> so I guess one just needs to upload to trusty
[11:46] <Riddell> ye
[11:46] <Riddell> yep
[11:46] <apachelogger> the config however is also highly confusing ^^
[11:46] <jarkko> are kmix and kmixer same?
[11:47] <apachelogger> eitherway
[11:47] <apachelogger> it tries to identify the meta installation type by key dependencies
[11:47] <Riddell> jarkko: never heard of kmixer, kmix is the kde volume tool
[11:47] <apachelogger> which right now is for kubuntu-desktop is KeyDependencies=kdm, kubuntu-artwork
[11:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: old school
[11:48] <apachelogger> so, I was thinking we'll want kubuntu-settings-desktop (possibly the plymouths) + debug-installer + notification-helper + whoopsie
[11:48] <jarkko> i am just playing with audio and there was kmix update, now my sounds have irritating problem. not sure if the update effected
[11:48] <apachelogger> whenever you have kubuntu-* you'd have installed kubuntu-desktop at some point I'd say
[11:49]  * soee wonders if lighdm works now
[11:49] <apachelogger> it didn't at some point?
[11:50] <soee> ih i had to install kdm to be able to login
[11:50] <soee> *oh
[11:50] <apachelogger> soee: in trusty?
[11:50] <apachelogger> (it was broken in december or so, should have been fixed for a while though)
[11:51] <soee> apachelogger: yes, when bootinh system stopped on plymoutth and in cli there were 2 FAILS one for Lightdm
[11:51] <soee> nothing helped, reisntalling etc
[11:51] <soee> so i had to use kdm
[11:52] <soee> whats more there were no any  logs for lightdm
[11:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: aha, I think I got it ... data/DistUpgrade.cfg.precise is precise -> trusty, so we'll want to fiddle with that to resolve bug 1264887 (i.e. improve detection of kubuntu-desktop on precise installs) ... then there is data/DistUpgrade.cfg which is the currently used upgrade config for saucy -> trusty, so there we'll want to improve detection of kubuntu-destkop on saucy installs
[11:54] <apachelogger> easy peasy
[11:54] <apachelogger> still crappy to test I guess
[11:54] <apachelogger> soee: that definitely should be fixed since >1 month
[11:55] <soee> probably :) but suddenly stopped to work for me 2 days ago, valorie mentioned that there was onther guy on #kubuntu with the same issue
[11:57] <apachelogger> there's lots of library transitions going on right now, so that may have been the cause there
[11:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: you're a genius
[12:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: but, do we know if other upgrade combinations are being supported? I saw the release team discuss it due to raring end of life
[12:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: raring->trusty you mean?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: something like that, I'll ask
[12:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: there at least is no config
[12:04] <ghostcube> i got something maybe needs to be changed
[12:05] <ghostcube> ah BluesKaj lol 
[12:05] <ghostcube> then i dont need to mention here
[12:05] <ghostcube> :D
[12:05] <ghostcube> wouldnt it be possible to start a sudoer login if you go to kdm settings?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> you can ghostcube , I didn't find out about it here :)
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hmm, never thought about that
[12:07] <ghostcube> ok so, if you run systemsettings as normal user, and you use kdm as enough users still do, and you want to add a new design from the menu entry download new design. you can download and install it, but it is not shown inside the designs
[12:07] <ghostcube> you need to start systemsettings as root to get this downloaded and installed and usable
[12:08] <ghostcube> or you download it manually and add it from a file, than the settings menu asks for the sudoer password, and everything is fine
[12:08] <ghostcube> would make sense to have this questions also if you gonna download it
[12:08] <ghostcube> by the menu entry
[12:08]  * BluesKaj wonsers about lightdm configurability
[12:08] <ghostcube> ehhhh i dont like lightdm, it lags some features
[12:09] <ghostcube> :D
[12:09] <BluesKaj> think I'll stick with default settings
[12:11] <jarkko> btw. i think user management and user manager should be combined
[12:12] <ghostcube> BluesKaj: caledonia is a very nice login screen
[12:12] <ghostcube> :D
[12:12] <ghostcube> for kdm
[12:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: so, the key deps are all-or-nothing, the list probably should be as long as necessary and as short as possible
[12:14] <jarkko> there are only 2 login screens to choose with LDM
[12:14] <apachelogger> so why kdm is in there is beyond me already
[12:14] <apachelogger> least keyish dependency ever
[12:15] <ghostcube> jarkko: yeah... and you cant directly open text modus from the start menu ... i dont use lightdm anymore i reverted to kdm
[12:15] <BluesKaj> ghostcube, I added my own from our photos file. ghostcube
[12:16] <jarkko> i think someone over kde developement should really take look at system settings, they should combine things
[12:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe just keydep on kubuntu-default-settings?
[12:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: either that or kubuntu-default-settings, kubuntu-notification-helper
[12:16] <apachelogger> though I'd really just go with the setting
[12:17] <apachelogger> jarkko: like?
[12:18] <jarkko> account details, user management, user manager could be combined
[12:18] <apachelogger> user management?
[12:18] <apachelogger> (I somewhat agree with account details and user manager, but at the same time not really because they are differen things)
[12:18] <jarkko> there is even personal information
[12:19] <apachelogger> one controls me, the other controls everyone (including me)
[12:19] <jarkko> well i am just trying to say that they should combine those things
[12:19] <apachelogger> why?
[12:19] <jarkko> would be easier to look
[12:19] <apachelogger> why?
[12:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: ohohoh, KeyDeps plasma-desktop, kubuntu-default-settings
[12:20] <apachelogger> that should be most suitable
[12:37] <Tm_T> Riddell: but who is Jonathan Riddle
[12:40] <Riddell> Tm_T: I don't know but I'm going to go out and buy a paper to read more about this exclusive story they have
[12:41] <Tm_T> Riddell: sounds perfect, remember to enjoy with the beverage of your choice
[12:46] <Quintasan> Hi 
[12:47] <apachelogger> Tm_T: at least they spelled jonathan right xD
[12:48] <apachelogger> yo Quintasan
[12:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: from my review: real fix can't be implemented because when real fix is implemented dragon crashes and becomes unstable ^^
[13:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: fix committed to bzr ... using plasma-desktop/netbook and kubuntu-settings-desktop/netbook as key deps for kubuntu-desktop/netbook
[13:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: lovely, thanks
[13:26] <apachelogger> anyone wants to verify bug 737856 for saucy?
[13:36] <ghostcube> meh kdeconnect 0.4.2 seems not to build correct ... hope they can fix this
[13:38] <Riddell> "they"?
[13:49] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: IIRC there were some screenshots there
[13:50] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: the card disagrees :P
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin> I can see that now
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin> it reffers to the color of multiple partitions of the same fs
[14:05] <apachelogger> old: [    blue    |    blue   |    pink  ]
[14:05] <apachelogger> new: [    blue        |blue   |    pink  ]
[14:05] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: ^ that's the problem?
[14:06] <ovidiu-florin> https://trello.com/c/Mw5FBYpI/77-update-the-colors-in-ubiquity-on-the-partitions-preview-bar
[14:06] <ovidiu-florin> added screenshot
[14:06] <apachelogger> ah
[14:06] <apachelogger> well, there seems to be some color space manipulation going on already
[14:07] <apachelogger> ... the code is really spooky ....
[14:07] <apachelogger> I mean, it would be spooky in c++, but it's python, so its spooky and unreadable
[14:07] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell found a solution, but I haven't managed to implement it
[14:08] <ovidiu-florin> he found it when we were in Munich
[14:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: tell us more
[14:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: also remember to comment at cards plz :@
[14:12] <Riddell> what what?
[14:13] <Riddell> I don't think I've looked at that issue
[14:13] <Riddell> no memory of it anyway
[14:13] <apachelogger> think I found the cause anyway
[14:14] <apachelogger> seems the two parts are respectively 0.025 times offset in value
[14:14] <apachelogger> which is like next to nothing
[14:14] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you showed me  aplace in the ubiquity code where to change th hex code to change the color
[14:14] <ovidiu-florin> when we were in Munich
[14:14] <Riddell> oh right I pointed to the place in the code, not same same as "found a solution" :)
[14:15] <ovidiu-florin> solution: change the hex
[14:17] <apachelogger> nope
[14:18] <apachelogger> that's wrong
[14:18] <apachelogger> the hex identifies the base color for each filesystem
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[14:18] <apachelogger> that value is the converted to HSV and the V is divided by a modifier
[14:18] <apachelogger> and right now that modifier is 1.25
[14:18] <apachelogger> #3677B0 should be the left value it seems
[14:19] <apachelogger> close enough to the screenshot
[14:21] <apachelogger> well, twiddle the modifier and you'll get something more reasonable it seems
[14:22]  * apachelogger out of coffee :(
[15:01] <cyphermox> Riddell: poke
[15:01] <cyphermox> Riddell: modemmanager has been synced to proposed but is in depwait for now, missing two libraries to MIR
[15:03] <Riddell> cyphermox: oh cool
[15:04] <Riddell> since we got moved to universe I don't really know how quickly the MIR queue moves
[15:13] <apachelogger> I was wrong with the partitions
[15:13] <apachelogger> I think they are even worse
[15:14] <apachelogger> not sure how
[15:16] <sgclark> morning all
[15:21]  * apachelogger falls over
[15:21] <apachelogger> Riddell, ovidiu-florin: the left hand side of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation/DiskSetup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kubuntu-13.10-installer-disksetup.png is darker because the right hand side will draw over it apparently ...
[15:22] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: and I guess they are both a bit transparent?
[15:22] <apachelogger> oh, no, what
[15:22] <apachelogger> man that code is shit
[15:24] <apachelogger> nevermind that, I don't get it
[15:24] <apachelogger> Oo
[15:25] <apachelogger> haha
[15:25] <apachelogger> lol
[15:25] <apachelogger> Riddell, ovidiu-florin: Riddell was right after all
[15:25] <apachelogger> there's an 'auto' partition which defines the value of the resize
[15:26] <cyphermox> Riddell: I don't know. I'll harass people
[15:27] <cyphermox> Riddell: was it just plasma-nm or whatever library that depends on it that needs the new MM ?
[15:30] <apachelogger> I really should not look at python code :'<
[15:30] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/ff0oX19.png how's that?
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> better but still not colour blind friendly
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> can it not be blue?
[15:31] <apachelogger> you did not provide instructions
[15:31] <apachelogger> it's blue for branding reasons
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> since it sees the old one as Ubuntu, make the old one orange
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> what do you think?
[15:32] <apachelogger> we don't know that that is ubuntu
[15:32] <apachelogger> it's ext4
[15:32] <apachelogger> all we know in the partitionbar thing
[15:32] <apachelogger> actually even outside it'd be hard to sensible parse that
[15:33] <ovidiu-florin> ok...
[15:34] <apachelogger> ovidiu-florin: please comment a page with information on how to make stuff color blind friendly or what colors are acceptable
[15:34] <apachelogger> ...on the trello card
[15:34] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[15:37] <ovidiu-florin> apachelogger: this is what we have now (with your changes) http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/attachments/illustration/5013d1214890417-color-blind-test-untitled-1.jpg
[15:37] <apachelogger> going to call it day, card back in to do, if you want to fiddle with it yourself... simply boot in the livecd; run dpkg -S PartitionBar.py and edit the hex values
[15:39] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[15:39] <ovidiu-florin> I'll take a look soon
[16:06] <sgclark> Riddell: kdoctools keeps breaking checkXML and meinproc, DATA_INSTALL_DIR needs to be "${SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX}"  . please see my email for details
[16:08] <sgclark> Riddell: I mean extra-cmake-modules
[16:11] <Riddell> hi sgclark 
[16:11] <Riddell> sgclark: which subject?
[16:13] <sgclark> Riddell: Re: KF5 paths
[16:14] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm interesting
[16:16] <sgclark> Riddell: I also proposed the changes you need to make to get your patch to build with renaming files
[16:18] <Riddell> I'm so behind on e-mail :(
[16:18] <sgclark> :(
[16:19] <Riddell> sgclark: ecm uploaded with data-install-dir updated
[16:19] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks!
[16:20] <jussi> o/
[16:21] <Riddell> sgclark: where did you propose changes?
[16:21] <jussi> how are we all :)
[16:21] <Riddell> happy Finland weekend jussi 
[16:21] <jussi> btw, can we make sure that this is updated and in trusty?  http://elv13.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/sflphone-kde-1-3-0-released/
[16:21] <jussi> Riddell: huh? 
[16:21] <sgclark> Riddell: you can see it on reviewboard https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115065/
[16:21] <sgclark> open issues
[16:22] <jussi> Riddell: btw, please let me know when you receive the stickers - I sent you 600
[16:22] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion sflphone 1.3.0
[16:22] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270214
[16:23] <Riddell> jussi: oh right, to my home address? when did you send them?
[16:23] <jussi> excellent, thanks!
[16:23] <jussi> Riddell: thnk so...
[16:23] <jussi> on tuesday
[16:23] <Riddell> jussi: ok cool, no sign yet
[16:27] <allee> jussi, Riddell: I'll give sflphone a try ..
[16:28] <jussi> allee: thanks
[16:29] <Riddell> awooga
[16:30] <Riddell> allee: see last link on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ for more ideas :)
[16:30] <allee> jussi: mhmm, it's already pkged : https://launchpad.net/~savoirfairelinux/+archive/ppa
[16:31] <jussi> allee: yes, yes it is. but it needs checkng and syncing
[16:31] <allee> jussi: for checking any suggestion for a free sip account for testing?
[16:31] <jussi> Ive used voipbuster in the past... 
[16:48] <Riddell> sgclark: updated kdoctools patch thanks
[16:50]  * Riddell out
[17:13] <sgclark> Riddell: new kdoctools files for you, the one in PPA is broken because it was built with the broken path issue
[17:14] <allee> Jussi: Mark Purcell did the sflphone pkg for debian last time.  I've asked him if he plans to pkg it in the next 3 weeks (debian import freeze).   He usually pretty quick. So no need to duplicate work
[17:28] <jussi> allee: excellent. thanks
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> jussi: hey
[17:43] <jussi> hi ovidiu-florin
[17:43] <jarkko> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-January/037978.html
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> about the kubuntu stickers
[17:44] <jussi> ovidiu-florin: you need to send ma an address...
[17:44] <jussi> Ive still about 600 stickers left..
[17:45] <jussi> ovidiu-florin: to email, or it gets lost.
[17:45] <jussi> my email is jussi01 at ubuntu
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> .com?
[18:38] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1270243] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270243 (by Bob Davidson)
[23:16] <valorie> \o/ I'll be talking about kubuntu next Sat.: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/saucy