[00:30] <KI7MT> phillw, Ok, Im here to bug you :-) .. After reading the message from the head of development, would it make sense to annotate the Lubuntu bugs listed on ubuntu-manual-tests or at least refer them to the Lubuntu Wiki / Testing pages ?
[00:36] <phillw> KI7MT: unless you really want me to go into "rip some ones head'off...... the wiki pages actually need people to pull their finger out of the their collective ass and actually spend a few minutes each month to update.
[00:40] <KI7MT> phillw, no, no need to go into that mode .. I already to daily iso zsync's and such, have lots of VM's running different things.  Is there anything I could help with from a test-case perspective?
[00:41] <KI7MT> *already do .. .
[11:08] <llogiq> Hi folks. How come there are no openjdk-7 packages for 1.7.0_51 on saucy? java -version still lists 1.7.0_25 - Only the Oracle JDK is currently up to date as far as I can see.
[11:43] <koell> Hello Lubuntu users! And hello phillw! :)
[12:19] <Sujatha_Thero> hi guys , i have LG M1 Express Dual laptop. it's keyboard works fine on XP , but not on Lubuntu, i plugged a usb keyboard in , it also works well, what has gone wrong ?
[12:37] <Sujatha_Thero> anyone awake ?
[12:37] <llogiq> Yep.
[12:42] <Sujatha_Thero> i have LG M1 Express Dual laptop. it's keyboard works fine on XP , but not on Lubuntu, i plugged a usb keyboard in , it also works well, what has gone wrong ?
[12:42] <Sujatha_Thero> llogiq:
[12:43] <llogiq> Sujatha_Thero, I don't know. Sounds like some newish hardware?
[12:43] <Sujatha_Thero> no , this an old laptop
[12:43] <Sujatha_Thero> its keyboard works well in Win XP
[12:43] <Sujatha_Thero> but not on Lubuntu
[12:43] <llogiq> Strange. What bus is the keyboard on?
[12:43] <Sujatha_Thero> currently i am using an external usb keyboard
[12:44] <Sujatha_Thero> ibus
[12:44] <llogiq> so it doesn't use usb?
[12:44] <Sujatha_Thero> usb keyboard works though
[12:44] <llogiq> perhaps you need a driver for that?
[12:44] <Sujatha_Thero> i guess so
[12:44] <Sujatha_Thero> where to find it ?
[12:45] <Sujatha_Thero> i guess that the laptop keyboard is not usb ,  might be ps/2
[12:46] <llogiq> Sujatha_Thero, can you check if "lsmod" output contains atkbd?
[12:46] <Sujatha_Thero> wait
[12:48] <Sujatha_Thero> lsmod | grep atk  resulted nothing
[12:50] <Sujatha_Thero> how do i add it ?
[12:53] <llogiq> Sujatha_Thero, modprobe atkbd
[12:53] <llogiq> Probably needs root (so you may want to sudo)
[12:56] <Sujatha_Thero> llogiq: hi  , how to install atkbd ?
[13:01] <Sujatha_Thero> llogiq:  r u around ?
[13:02] <llogiq> Sujatha_Thero, I'm at work, so sorry if I may take some time to answer.
[13:02] <Sujatha_Thero> llogiq:  sorry to disturb u
[13:06] <llogiq> Sujatha_Thero, maybe modprobe xtkbd  will work
[13:06] <Sujatha_Thero> llogiq: i will try n let u know
[13:17] <llogiq> Does anyone know why openjdk-7 is still on 1.7.0_25 on saucy?
[13:27] <deleted> Anyone here use pipelight?
[13:48] <Zara> bonjour
[13:50] <deleted> hi
[13:51] <Zara> you speak french?
[13:51] <deleted> not enough
[13:51] <Zara> ok
[13:51] <Zara> i try to explain
[13:53] <Zara> comment lancer des applications au démarrage de ubuntu?
[13:54] <deleted> lancer?
[13:54] <Zara> how to launch applications at startup of ubuntu?
[13:54] <deleted> ahh
[13:54] <deleted> launch
[13:54] <deleted> This is a good tutorial
[13:54] <deleted> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159008/how-to-add-startup-applications-in-lubuntu
[13:55] <Zara> lubuntu
[13:56] <deleted> ?
[13:56] <llogiq> cu folks.
[13:56] <deleted> bye
[13:57] <Myrtti> Zara: lubuntu ou ubuntu?
[13:57] <Zara> lubuntu
[14:00] <deleted> the guide I linked is for lubuntu
[14:03] <Zara> ok merci
[14:04] <deleted> no problem
[14:28] <jirido> Hi. i got a problem with thunderbird on lubuntu 12.04. It dont get windowframes like the rest of programs.. no max, min and close.. any ideas how to fix or debug this?
[16:05] <wxl> jirido: i've never had that problem before. did you get tbird from the repos?
[16:08] <wxl> jirido: i'd say you should try running with -safe-mode first off
[17:20] <manlin> hi users... anyone got any link/ref/doc to beautifying lubuntu UI?
[17:27] <holstein> manlin: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" as they say.. i think you will find much info by searching "lxde themes"
[17:29] <manlin> holstein: yeah .. I'm still trying to make it look the way I want it
[17:32] <holstein> manlin: you might have to get more specific.. "how do i add a panel to lxde?".. "how do i apply this icon theme to lxde?".. etc..
[17:35] <manlin> holstein: alright. when i set system theme to panel, the background to applets still show different colors
[17:35] <manlin> in Panel Settings > Appearance
[17:35] <manlin> That's little annoying
[20:19] <RudeViper> is there any way to recover mouse and keyboard - if they don't get recognized after reinstalling and then physically moving the machine? They worked before moving - but don't know and they weren't unplugged.
[20:19] <RudeViper> know = now - sorry for the typo
[20:24] <ianorlin> both keyboard and mouse working is tough as how do you fix that?
[20:24] <ianorlin> do you have any other keyboards or mice?
[20:24] <RudeViper> yes - switched to a usb pair - they aren't showing up either - do I have to reinstall?
[20:25] <ianorlin> did they work in a live seisson?
[20:25] <ianorlin> or where you using alt cd?
[20:26] <RudeViper> yes they worked - even worked after install and several boots - but when I moved machine they quite
[20:26] <RudeViper> I can ssh in so I know it isn't locked up
[20:27] <ianorlin> can you do lsusb through ssh with the usb pair plugged in?
[20:28] <RudeViper> hang on I'll check
[20:28] <RudeViper> it's rebooting so hang on a moment
[20:33] <RudeViper> yeah something crapped out - have to try and reinstall - now computer won't boot at all
[20:34] <ianorlin> um can you get into grub at startup
[20:34] <ianorlin> hold sift if not on dual boot
[20:35] <ianorlin> maybe try another kernel or something if you have an old one
[20:37] <RudeViper> nope - reinstall - lol
[20:38] <RudeViper> ok can I install if from live and disable to gui from there?
[20:38] <RudeViper> I'm setting it up as a file and minecraft server
[20:39] <Unit193> Change /etc/default/grub "quiet splash" to include "text" removing the others or not.
[20:40] <RudeViper> that was what I was about to do when it quite working - lol - no problem - just thought there might be a shortcut for it
[20:41] <Unit193> Shortcut?
[20:42] <RudeViper> wow - booting into live cd - no mouse or keyboard - but it works in bios and first splash screen where you select language and then to try or install - now they are gone
[20:42] <RudeViper> yeah - a setting I could do on install so it just started that way from the get go - no problem with editing grub file though - that is easy peasy
[20:56] <Unit193> Well that's quite the strange one.
[20:57] <ianorlin> also hope it isn't just a dead port
[21:14] <Unit193> He said bios showed them working.
[21:31] <RudeViper> not a dead port - broken mouse - part of the plug broke off inside the ps/2 port - ugh
[21:33] <RudeViper> usb mouse seems to be working - will know for sure after reinstall
[21:46] <RudeViper> anyone know of a keyboard shortcut to bring up the equivelant of the start button?
[21:48] <Unit193> C-Escape
[21:49] <RudeViper> thanks
[21:49] <Unit193> Configurable, ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[21:53] <RudeViper> the broken piece that is still in there must be overiding the usb mouse - gotta figure a way to DISABLE the ps/2 port
[21:53] <Unit193> lsmod | grep ps
[22:03] <RudeViper> ok dug the piece of plastic out - crossing fingers here
[22:14] <RudeViper> nope - wouldn't start - so I put the dvd back in and I;m still getting the screwed up mouse pointer - lol
[22:39] <RudeViper> ok when this thing gets done - the lsmod | grep ps command will turn of the ps2 port?
[22:39] <Unit193> Nope.
[22:39] <ianorlin> no it will show if a driver is listed
[22:39] <RudeViper> ok
[22:39] <ianorlin> in the kernel module
[22:39] <RudeViper> anyway to actually disable it period?
[22:40] <ianorlin> blacklist the ps2mouse driver I think
[22:40] <RudeViper> eventually I'll be in text mode anyway but some stuff I need the gui for to start with
[22:40] <RudeViper> ok
[22:41] <RudeViper> gotta love old computers huh?
[22:48] <RudeViper> ok I just typed lsmod | grep ps and nothing came up