[04:56] fp [05:30] sp [05:31] goeiemore nuvolari [05:32] good morning [05:34] hi magespawn [05:35] did you see that question/statement from yesterday? [05:37] môre inetpro :) [05:37] hello magespawn [05:37] hi there nuvolari [05:38] magespawn: question/statement? [05:38] the one about finding two routers on the same physical network [05:40] hmm... unlikely but possible [05:40] just check the gateway address [05:41] was a bit strange in that my win laptop got its address from one and the lubuntu one got it from the other [05:41] both laptops set to dhcp [05:41] the second router has no internet connection [05:41] netstat -ar [05:41] and they were on different subnets [05:42] i will check that on Monday when i am down at that property again [05:46] also nobody there could tell me where the router actually is, so more fun and games [05:50] More more almal [05:53] hi bduk1 [06:06] magespawn: is it all wireless? [06:12] no this is the local lan that then connects through a nanobridge m5 to the adsl point [06:17] Hello Everyone [06:18] hi somaunn [06:18] brb [06:18] hi magespawn [06:18] brb [06:34] morning [06:42] Morning Squirm [06:43] Hi Kilos [06:44] hi Golynx superfly and others [06:44] i be very busy but thought what you have done wrong there Golynx [06:44] You did ? [06:45] yip i think you still have something unticked in update manager settings thats why that kernel is missing and synaptic cant do its work [06:46] i miight be offline most of the day im working on a 2TB drive ive been battling with for about 6 months [06:47] I unticked eveything you told me in update manager [06:48] Aah thats nice Kilos [06:48] maybe we just go check hey? [06:48] hi Kilos [06:48] ok [06:49] Golynx, open update manager [06:49] and dont play with cli at the same time [06:49] but no downloading anymore, already used too much data [06:49] Hi superfly [06:49] hi Golynx [06:49] yes i just am trying to find why synaptic has no reinstall options in some files [06:50] or you can leave it as is till you got data [06:50] ok settings is open [06:50] ok [06:51] in updates 1st 2nd and 4th must be ticked [06:51] not the prerease one as well [06:51] You told me to untick them last week [06:51] hi liam [06:51] liamT, [06:51] Hi liamT [06:52] moaning [06:52] lol [06:52] I dont want security updates [06:53] leave this for now though [06:53] you have to have them man [06:54] I got Thunar file manager and cant find anywhere on google how to make it default on 12.04 [06:54] Its more than a second faster than Nautilus [06:55] good [06:55] anyway it looks like that is where you problem lies [06:56] pcmanfm is fast too but dont wana show the system files [06:56] if you had told me you didnt tick what i told you to we wouldnt have spent yesterday trying to find what was wrong [06:57] What good will security updates do ? [06:57] you windows peeps [06:57] anyone who use shell, I've been using the 'tmux' addon, it's added to my life in terms of monitoring log files [06:57] sigh [06:57] liamT, hang here, somaun was looking for shell help yesterday and last night [06:58] somaunn, are you awake [06:58] Synaptic is just a big cry baby [06:58] no man its you that breaks things by unticking stuff it needs [06:59] i told you forget the windows way of doing things [06:59] Its not a massive system failure Kilos, it can be repaired [06:59] security updates in windows and in linux are totally different things [06:59] ya luckily [07:00] Do you know howi can make Thunar the default [07:00] npe never used it [07:01] my nautilus works kiff [07:01] Or any file manager default [07:01] Maaz, how to make thunar default on 12.04 [07:01] Kilos: Sorry... [07:01] I can change mine under "Preferred Applications" [07:01] ai! [07:02] I tried this but still pops up nautilus exo-preferred-applications [07:02] Maaz, google how to make thunar default on 12.04 [07:02] Kilos: "Trying to set Thunar as a default file manager in Ubuntu 12.04" http://askubuntu.com/questions/253131/trying-to-set-thunar-as-a-default-file-manager-in-ubuntu-12-04 :: "12.04 - How do I reset to the default file manager for all folders ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/355848/how-do-i-reset-to-the-default-file-manager-for-all-folders :: "Use Nautilus with [07:02] Xfce as default file manager - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/169036/use-nau… [07:03] exo-preferred-applications says Thunar is default but stuff still opens with nautilus [07:04] oh wait [07:04] find a file you want to open [07:04] and thunar in the quick launch icon supposed to show all the folders thats opened if its the default fm [07:04] right click on it [07:04] and then open with [07:04] at the bottom is other i think [07:04] it shows whats installed [07:05] scroll down to find thunar [07:05] Do i find the file with thunar ? [07:05] if you find thunar in the other then it should become your default [07:06] you right click on the file and choose open with [07:06] ok [07:07] Not working Kilos [07:07] I think Thunar is supposed to open folders though [07:08] didnt you find thunar in there [07:08] ? [07:08] Yes but wont "Use as default" OPen button is disabled [07:08] http://askubuntu.com/questions/253131/trying-to-set-thunar-as-a-default-file-manager-in-ubuntu-12-04 [07:09] what does that link show [07:09] have they sorted it [07:10] when you have data we set your update manager correctly then everything will work faster and better [07:10] Nope, already used that command exo-preferred-applications. Thunar is the default, but not the default [07:10] sjoe [07:11] That will be in the middle of next month [07:11] ok , at least it is working so long [07:12] but you must just put up with the niggles till upgraded [07:12] Ya its fine , didnt get to download mysql that i needed aswell , but got apache and php so i'm fine until then [07:12] how big is mysql [07:13] 26mb [07:13] eish i cant even mail it to you, you will still lose the data [07:14] even on dropbox [07:14] Ya , but its fine i will do other things until i got the data [07:14] good [07:14] ty for the help [07:14] np [07:26] hi Vince-0 [07:26] i go sort sheep [07:37] surp [07:43] anyone deployed Flask middleware on apache wsgi ? [07:44] ohi magespawn [07:59] hello [07:59] Kilos: yes i was on meetting [08:00] aha liamT said something about shells [08:01] i've been finding tmux very useful [08:01] monitoring multiple files in the same shell window [08:06] i think he needs basic info on how to use shells liamT [08:11] all i could think of was the lpi manual [08:14] Maaz, google using bourne shell for newbies [08:14] Kilos: "Bash Guide for Beginners" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ :: "Bash Guide for Beginners - The Linux Documentation Project" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html :: "BASH Help - A Bash Tutorial - Hypexr.org" http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php :: "Bourne Shell Tutorial - The Grymoire!" [08:14] http://www.grymoire.com/unix/Sh.html :: ""Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt Garre… [08:14] there somaunn that might help [08:16] Maaz, google Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt [08:16] Kilos: ""Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt Garrels" http://writers.fultus.com/garrels/ebooks/Machtelt_Garrels_Bash_Guide_for_Beginners_2nd_Ed.pdf :: "Bash Guide for Beginners (Second Edition): Machtelt Garrels ..." http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Guide-Beginners-Second-Edition/dp/1596822015 :: "Bash Guide for Beginners: Machtelt Garrels: [08:16] 9780974433943 ..." http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Guide-Beginners-Machtelt-Garrels/dp/0974433942 :: "Bas… [08:22] good morning [08:22] Maaz: coffee on [08:22] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:22] hi Kilos, liamT, somaunn, Vince-0 [08:23] hi charl [08:23] Maaz, coffee please [08:23] Kilos: Okay [08:26] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [08:27] Maaz, ty [08:27] You are welcome Kilos [08:30] charl, ! [08:30] another kak day in paradise [08:34] ai! [08:38] hi Kilos [08:38] hi Vince-0 charl superfly [08:45] surp [08:52] bbl [08:53] magespawn, you wont believe [08:53] aw [08:54] still here [08:54] Vince-0: what's wrong? [08:54] i got xp 0n the 2TB [08:55] hi inetpro [08:55] found some weird thing [08:55] nice Kilos [08:55] what is that? [08:55] good mornings Kilos [08:55] in bios there is an option to disable password on a drive with nothing on [08:56] what's the point of that? [08:56] are you sure that is not just the bios password? [08:56] then i could part and format some of it [08:56] nope [08:56] i dont use bios passwords ever [08:57] made a part of 101g and xp hung at 63% formatting [08:57] coupla times [08:57] made another 20g part and xp formatted and installed to there [08:58] now still gotta get ubuntu to install on the 1.7 TB thats left [08:58] hehe [08:59] im excited. 6 or 8 months of on and off to sort that 2TB [09:00] so ill be offline a while. other screen sick [09:00] good luck [09:00] ty im sure its fixed now [09:01] only prob is that there is only one part left for ubuntu, rest must be them logicals [09:03] check the drive as much as you can [09:15] will do [09:15] just blew 733m on zsyncing 12.04 to 12.04.3 [09:15] eish [09:16] should done it with night surfer [09:16] 2TB got me all excited [09:16] wbb some time. you guys be good and hold the fort [09:17] have a great day [09:29] inetpro, niks verkeerd? Another kak day in paradise [09:29] ai! [12:16] hmm... [12:30] Things that makes you go hmmmm [12:31] Daai liedtjie is nou in my kop hehehehe [12:43] Bye everyone , have a good weekend [14:00] hi Kilos [14:00] hi magespawn still struggling with 2tb [14:01] grrr [14:10] keeping you busy [14:17] yeah [14:18] busy watching a yagi construction video [14:20] andrew mcneil on youtube [14:23] cool [14:23] He goes into a lot of detail [14:23] i go fetch sheep [14:23] size? [14:24] no idea 12 minutes [14:24] link please. ill try get it sometime [14:25] for wifi? [14:25] yes or anything in 2.4 or 5 Ghz frequency [14:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GWoAUM2mAs [14:26] that is for a helical antenna [14:28] looks like he has a video for almost every style [14:29] mind you the only part i struggle with is the folded dipole [14:30] hard to get it in shape properly and right size [14:31] mind you i used brazing rod which don bend too easy [14:32] most of the ones i have seen use copper wire [14:33] yeah but i only had brzing rods [14:33] right [14:33] bbl got to go work [14:34] there is a site that one ucec to design it accorbing to material thickness and type etc [14:34] copper 1.6mm is the best i think [14:39] they'll steal it man [14:39] will give you the link when i get back on that drive [14:39] no man there is too little [14:39] mind you i have all the measurements saved too [14:40] too little? How much copper can you find in a water meter? [14:40] will mail it to you [14:40] they stole my water meter twice [14:40] haha i dunno [14:40] but yagi goes on roof or pole like a tv aerial [14:41] and you can build it for the cost of the copper wire ans 0ne straight dowel [14:41] im making mine on plastic but [14:42] dowel is good for testing cheaply [14:44] just remember elements must be perfectly inline with each other [14:47] ohi Golynx [14:47] Hey Kilos [14:48] Hows the 2TB project going [14:49] struggling [14:49] wont take anything but xp [14:49] That suks [14:51] yeah [14:52] but ill keep investigating [14:52] thats good [14:53] yeah drives are too expensive to buy [14:54] Ya one mans trash is anothers treasure [14:54] lol yeah [14:54] good luck with that [14:55] ty [14:55] np [14:55] only been working on it 6 or 8 months on and off [14:56] but it has weird probs. if i plug it in as second drive ubuntu does even boot [14:57] was killed by heavy virriii [14:59] Did you remove the virus [15:02] ive formatted the whole drive [15:03] also the 2TB samsung had a prob. if you tried to install anything but windows it marked the attempt as bad sectors [15:03] Thats good [15:04] for windows ya [15:04] oh, maybe it only eccept a certain file system like FAT32 [15:05] ntfs [15:05] had win7 on when it crashed [15:05] or ntfs [15:06] oh, maybe the drive could be physically damaged too [15:06] ya i think it was thrown around some [15:07] hehe [15:07] got a few that had broken control cards and connectors etc [15:08] lol, ya some people will throw their HDD against the wall if that virus tempted them that much [15:08] lol [15:09] Some can be fixed though, so just the software needs to be fixed in such cases [15:10] i have got 5 outa 14 totally repaired and all data save [15:10] d [15:11] and 2 that work with ubuntu if first 20g is used for windows [15:11] Thats a good average [15:11] eish [15:12] You use older versions of ubuntu on them [15:13] i like everything to work, thats why i havent thrown away my faulty psus [15:13] i use whatever gets them going again [15:13] from 98 to dos 7.1 [15:13] to ubcd [15:14] and supergrub [15:14] good afternoon all [15:14] just spoke to a friend of mine on skype through my regular office telephone [15:14] i have many repair tools and data recovery tool are in ubuntu repos [15:14] good charl [15:14] Thats awesome Kilos, those old machines really need some revival [15:15] lync has federation with skype so it works perfectly [15:15] Hi charl [15:15] hi Golynx [15:15] all free and through voip [15:18] linux has awesome tools [15:20] and the supergrub cd can boot into a drive with damaged mbr and boot sector [15:22] Nice [15:22] boot the os that is [16:00] hi all you sexy ppl ;) [16:01] lol hi nlsthzn [16:01] I am pooped [16:01] long day? [16:03] long week that keeps going longer [16:04] ai! [16:05] and then you even miss the bus and get home late :p [16:07] sjoe [16:09] and then you take your issues home and get the wife upset... *sigh* [16:10] thats bad [16:11] never take the issues how [16:11] or rather take them home but not the attitude that comes with them [16:11] yip [16:11] recently had a similar 'chat' with my better half too [16:12] hi nlsthzn [16:12] you like playing with fire [16:13] hey magespawn... I know I know ... doesn't help when you still do it :p [16:13] Kilos, i have just taken an EnGenius EAP-3660 apart, it was damaged by a power surge, i now have the antenna from inside [16:14] Hi Guys, i'm back [16:15] i can see it's very busy [16:15] what's new here [16:15] ? [16:15] magespawn, wifi antenna [16:16] what that genius thing [16:16] Kilos, i'll see if i can get a picture online [16:16] all same somaunn [16:16] anyone know of a gdebi equal for KDE? QAPT Installer not working so lekker it seems?! [16:16] yes very small but supposed to be high power [16:16] left some links for you if you scroll back to where maaz googled for bash for beginners [16:17] kde installs on its own [16:17] http://www.engeniustech.com/component/content/article/158-business/267-high-power-indoor-access-point-universal-repeater-with-poe [16:17] put the package on desktop or in archives and click on it [16:18] Kilos: i've found some video about Bash and some about useful (every day) cmd under linux [16:18] lemme try again [16:18] Kilos: they're quite useful [16:18] maaz google bash for beginners [16:18] Kilos: "Bash Guide for Beginners" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ :: "Bash Guide for Beginners - The Linux Documentation Project" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html :: "The Beginner's Guide to Shell Scripting: The Basics - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/67469/the-beginners-guide-to-shell-scripting- [16:18] the-basics/ :: "Beginners/BashScripting - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubu… [16:19] if you can remember the stuff you read thats great somaunn [16:20] i can Kilos trust me [16:20] great i cant [16:23] tried this and this happened - http://slexy.org/view/s20cBIEdnZ [16:25] isnt it corrupt nlsthzn [16:26] this would be the second download of it then giving the same issue? [16:26] from same place? [16:28] maybe there is an issue with the server, or somewhere inbetween [16:28] later all home time for me [16:30] well it specifically for ubuntu and not kubuntu so maybe that is an issue [16:30] I go eat quicky... [16:30] bbl [17:01] uncle Kilos seems you where on the money... 3rd download and installed [18:18] hi smile [18:18] hi Kilos :) [18:18] my exams went fine :D [18:18] great [18:18] I've setup a wiki :) [18:18] http://wiki.torios.org [18:18] :D [18:19] meeting 28th at 8.30 pm [18:20] * nlsthzn goes sleepy [18:21] night [18:21] night nlsthzn [18:21] :o [18:21] sleep tight [18:21] nlsthzn: good night :) === smile is now known as Guest75021 [18:26] back ;) === Guest75021 is now known as smile4 [18:26] lol === smile4 is now known as smile [18:26] :p [18:27] hmm. :p [18:36] smile, meet Golynx [18:36] Hi Golynx :D [18:36] Hey smile [18:37] How are you? ;) [18:37] Good and you bud [18:39] I mean i'm good ty and you smile [18:39] I'm fine too :) [18:39] Sleep could be better :) [18:40] Golynx: how did you discover ubuntu-za ? :) [18:40] Aah tough week for you smile [18:40] yeah :) but no exams and no stress, because school is in vacation :D [18:42] I was looking for somewhere i could find an ubuntu disk in SA on google. i had freenode and this channel popped up in a site. Kilos was helpfull enough to send me a copy of ubuntu 12.04, which i'm thankfull for [18:42] :DD [18:42] Great! :D [18:42] You had Windows XP, I presume? ;) [18:43] Aah nice [18:43] Nope win7 [18:43] Was buggy though [18:44] :( [18:45] I don't like updates in Windows ;) [18:46] Never did any updates there, but guess your right [18:46] :D [18:47] lol , are you new here smile [18:53] Sorry , for 20 seconds there i thought you were a bot [18:54] no :D [18:54] I'm actually "older" :) [18:55] But it has been a while since I've been here :p [18:55] Oh ok , welcome back then smile ;) [18:58] thank you :D [18:59] np [18:59] he does wiki stuff Golynx [18:59]