[04:56] <nuvolari> fp
[05:30] <inetpro> sp
[05:31] <inetpro> goeiemore nuvolari
[05:32] <magespawn> good morning
[05:34] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[05:35] <magespawn> did you see that question/statement from yesterday?
[05:37] <nuvolari> môre inetpro :)
[05:37] <nuvolari> hello magespawn 
[05:37] <magespawn> hi there nuvolari 
[05:38] <inetpro> magespawn: question/statement?
[05:38] <magespawn> the one about finding two routers on the same physical network
[05:40] <inetpro> hmm... unlikely but possible
[05:40] <inetpro> just check the gateway address
[05:41] <magespawn> was a bit strange in that my win laptop got its address from one and the lubuntu one got it from the other 
[05:41] <magespawn> both laptops set to dhcp
[05:41] <magespawn> the second router has no internet connection
[05:41] <inetpro> netstat -ar
[05:41] <magespawn> and they were on different subnets
[05:42] <magespawn> i will check that on Monday when i am down at that property again
[05:46] <magespawn> also nobody there could tell me where the router actually is, so more fun and games
[05:50] <bduk1> More more almal 
[05:53] <magespawn> hi bduk1 
[06:06] <inetpro> magespawn: is it all wireless?
[06:12] <magespawn> no this is the local lan that then connects through a nanobridge m5 to the adsl point
[06:17] <somaunn> Hello Everyone
[06:18] <magespawn> hi somaunn 
[06:18] <magespawn> brb
[06:18] <somaunn> hi magespawn
[06:18] <somaunn> brb
[06:34] <Squirm> morning
[06:42] <Golynx> Morning Squirm
[06:43] <Golynx> Hi Kilos
[06:44] <Kilos> hi Golynx superfly and others
[06:44] <Kilos> i be very busy but thought what you have done wrong there Golynx 
[06:44] <Golynx> You did ?
[06:45] <Kilos> yip i think you still have something unticked in update manager settings thats why that kernel is missing and synaptic cant do its work
[06:46] <Kilos> i miight be offline most of the day im working on a 2TB drive ive been battling with for about 6 months
[06:47] <Golynx> I unticked eveything you told me in update manager
[06:48] <Golynx> Aah thats nice Kilos
[06:48] <Kilos> maybe we just go check hey?
[06:48] <superfly> hi Kilos
[06:48] <Golynx> ok
[06:49] <Kilos> Golynx, open update manager
[06:49] <Kilos> and dont play with cli at the same time
[06:49] <Golynx> but no downloading anymore, already used too much data 
[06:49] <Golynx> Hi superfly
[06:49] <superfly> hi Golynx
[06:49] <Kilos> yes i just am trying to find why synaptic has no reinstall options in some files
[06:50] <Kilos> or you can leave it as is till you got data
[06:50] <Golynx> ok settings is open
[06:50] <Kilos> ok
[06:51] <Kilos> in updates 1st 2nd and 4th must be ticked
[06:51] <Kilos> not the prerease one as well
[06:51] <Golynx> You told me to untick them last week
[06:51] <Kilos> hi liam
[06:51] <Kilos> liamT, 
[06:51] <Golynx> Hi liamT
[06:52] <liamT> moaning
[06:52] <Kilos> lol
[06:52] <Golynx> I dont want security updates
[06:53] <Golynx> leave this for now though
[06:53] <Kilos> you have to have them man
[06:54] <Golynx> I got Thunar file manager and cant find anywhere on google how to make it default on 12.04
[06:54] <Golynx> Its more than a second faster than Nautilus
[06:55] <Kilos> good
[06:55] <Kilos> anyway it looks like that is where you problem lies
[06:56] <Golynx> pcmanfm is fast too but dont wana show the system files
[06:56] <Kilos> if you had told me you didnt tick what i told you to we wouldnt have spent yesterday trying to find what was wrong
[06:57] <Golynx> What good will security updates do ?
[06:57] <Kilos> you windows peeps
[06:57] <liamT> anyone who use shell, I've been using the 'tmux' addon, it's added to my life in terms of monitoring log files
[06:57] <Kilos> sigh
[06:57] <Kilos> liamT, hang here, somaun was looking for shell help yesterday and last night
[06:58] <Kilos> somaunn, are you awake
[06:58] <Golynx> Synaptic is just a big cry baby
[06:58] <Kilos> no man its you that breaks things by unticking stuff it needs
[06:59] <Kilos> i told you forget the windows way of doing things
[06:59] <Golynx> Its not a massive system failure Kilos, it can be repaired
[06:59] <Kilos> security updates in windows and in linux are totally different things
[06:59] <Kilos> ya luckily
[07:00] <Golynx> Do you know howi can make Thunar the default
[07:00] <Kilos> npe never used it
[07:01] <Kilos> my nautilus works kiff
[07:01] <Golynx> Or any file manager default
[07:01] <Kilos> Maaz, how to make thunar default on 12.04
[07:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[07:01] <liamT> I can change mine under "Preferred Applications"
[07:01] <Kilos> ai!
[07:02] <Golynx> I tried this but still pops up nautilus exo-preferred-applications 
[07:02] <Kilos> Maaz, google   how to make thunar default on 12.04
[07:02] <Maaz> Kilos: "Trying to set Thunar as a default file manager in Ubuntu 12.04" http://askubuntu.com/questions/253131/trying-to-set-thunar-as-a-default-file-manager-in-ubuntu-12-04 :: "12.04 - How do I reset to the default file manager for all folders ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/355848/how-do-i-reset-to-the-default-file-manager-for-all-folders :: "Use Nautilus with
[07:02] <Maaz> Xfce as default file manager - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/169036/use-nau…
[07:03] <Golynx> exo-preferred-applications says Thunar is default but stuff still opens with nautilus
[07:04] <Kilos> oh wait
[07:04] <Kilos> find a file you want to open
[07:04] <Golynx> and thunar in the quick launch icon supposed to show all the folders thats opened if its the default fm
[07:04] <Kilos> right click on it
[07:04] <Kilos> and then open with
[07:04] <Kilos> at the bottom is other i think
[07:04] <Kilos> it shows whats installed
[07:05] <Kilos> scroll down to find thunar
[07:05] <Golynx> Do i find the file with thunar ?
[07:05] <Kilos> if you find thunar in the other then it should become your default
[07:06] <Kilos> you right click on the file and choose open with
[07:06] <Golynx> ok
[07:07] <Golynx> Not working Kilos
[07:07] <Golynx> I think Thunar is supposed to open folders though
[07:08] <Kilos> didnt you find thunar in there
[07:08] <Kilos> ?
[07:08] <Golynx> Yes but wont "Use as default" OPen button is disabled
[07:08] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/253131/trying-to-set-thunar-as-a-default-file-manager-in-ubuntu-12-04
[07:09] <Kilos> what does that link show
[07:09] <Kilos> have they sorted it
[07:10] <Kilos> when you have data we set your update manager correctly then everything will work faster and better
[07:10] <Golynx> Nope, already used that command exo-preferred-applications. Thunar is the default, but not the default
[07:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:11] <Golynx> That will be in the middle of next month
[07:11] <Kilos> ok , at least it is working so long
[07:12] <Kilos> but you must just put up with the niggles till upgraded
[07:12] <Golynx> Ya its fine , didnt get to download mysql that i needed aswell , but got apache and php so i'm fine until then
[07:12] <Kilos> how big is mysql
[07:13] <Golynx> 26mb
[07:13] <Kilos> eish i cant even mail it to you, you will still lose the data
[07:14] <Kilos> even on dropbox
[07:14] <Golynx> Ya , but its fine i will do other things until i got the data
[07:14] <Kilos> good
[07:14] <Golynx> ty for the help
[07:14] <Kilos> np
[07:26] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:26] <Kilos> i go sort sheep
[07:37] <Vince-0> surp
[07:43] <liamT> anyone deployed Flask middleware on apache wsgi ?
[07:44] <Kilos> ohi magespawn 
[07:59] <somaunn> hello
[07:59] <somaunn> Kilos: yes i was on meetting
[08:00] <Kilos> aha liamT said something about shells
[08:01] <liamT> i've been finding tmux very useful
[08:01] <liamT> monitoring multiple files in the same shell window
[08:06] <Kilos> i think he needs basic info on how to use shells liamT 
[08:11] <Kilos> all i could think of was the lpi manual
[08:14] <Kilos> Maaz, google using bourne shell for newbies
[08:14] <Maaz> Kilos: "Bash Guide for Beginners" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ :: "Bash Guide for Beginners - The Linux Documentation Project" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html :: "BASH Help - A Bash Tutorial - Hypexr.org" http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php :: "Bourne Shell Tutorial - The Grymoire!"
[08:14] <Maaz> http://www.grymoire.com/unix/Sh.html :: ""Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt Garre…
[08:14] <Kilos> there somaunn that might help
[08:16] <Kilos> Maaz, google Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt 
[08:16] <Maaz> Kilos: ""Bash Guide for Beginners" (Second Edition) by Machtelt Garrels" http://writers.fultus.com/garrels/ebooks/Machtelt_Garrels_Bash_Guide_for_Beginners_2nd_Ed.pdf :: "Bash Guide for Beginners (Second Edition): Machtelt Garrels ..." http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Guide-Beginners-Second-Edition/dp/1596822015 :: "Bash Guide for Beginners: Machtelt Garrels:
[08:16] <Maaz> 9780974433943 ..." http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Guide-Beginners-Machtelt-Garrels/dp/0974433942 :: "Bas…
[08:22] <charl> good morning
[08:22] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:22]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:22] <charl> hi Kilos, liamT, somaunn, Vince-0 
[08:23] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:23] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:23] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[08:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:27] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:30] <Vince-0> charl, !
[08:30] <Vince-0> another kak day in paradise
[08:34] <Kilos> ai!
[08:38] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[08:38] <magespawn> hi Vince-0 charl  superfly 
[08:45] <Vince-0> surp
[08:52] <magespawn> bbl
[08:53] <Kilos> magespawn, you wont believe
[08:53] <Kilos> aw
[08:54] <magespawn> still here 
[08:54] <inetpro> Vince-0: what's wrong?
[08:54] <Kilos> i got xp 0n the 2TB
[08:55] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[08:55] <Kilos> found some weird thing
[08:55] <magespawn> nice Kilos
[08:55] <magespawn> what is that?
[08:55] <inetpro> good mornings Kilos
[08:55] <Kilos> in bios there is an option to disable password on a drive with nothing on
[08:56] <inetpro> what's the point of that?
[08:56] <magespawn> are you sure that is not just the bios password?
[08:56] <Kilos> then i could part and format some of it
[08:56] <Kilos> nope
[08:56] <Kilos> i dont use bios passwords ever
[08:57] <Kilos> made a part of 101g and xp hung at 63% formatting
[08:57] <Kilos> coupla times
[08:57] <Kilos> made another 20g part and xp formatted and installed to there
[08:58] <Kilos> now still gotta get ubuntu to install on the 1.7 TB thats left
[08:58] <Kilos> hehe
[08:59] <Kilos> im excited. 6 or 8 months of on and off to sort that 2TB
[09:00] <Kilos> so ill be offline a while. other screen sick
[09:00] <magespawn> good luck
[09:00] <Kilos> ty im sure its fixed now
[09:01] <Kilos> only prob is that there is only one part left for ubuntu, rest must be them logicals
[09:03] <magespawn> check the drive as much as you can
[09:15] <Kilos> will do
[09:15] <Kilos> just blew 733m on zsyncing 12.04 to 12.04.3
[09:15] <Kilos> eish
[09:16] <Kilos> should done it with night surfer
[09:16] <Kilos> 2TB got me all excited
[09:16] <Kilos> wbb some time. you guys be good and hold the fort
[09:17] <Kilos> have a great day
[09:29] <Vince-0> inetpro, niks verkeerd? Another kak day in paradise
[09:29] <inetpro> ai!
[12:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:30] <mazal> Things that makes you go hmmmm
[12:31] <mazal> Daai liedtjie is nou in my kop hehehehe
[12:43] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a good weekend
[14:00] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[14:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn still struggling with 2tb
[14:01] <Kilos> grrr
[14:10] <magespawn> keeping you busy
[14:17] <Kilos> yeah
[14:18] <magespawn> busy watching a yagi construction video 
[14:20] <magespawn> andrew mcneil on youtube
[14:23] <Kilos> cool
[14:23] <magespawn> He goes into a lot of detail
[14:23] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[14:23] <Kilos> size?
[14:24] <magespawn> no idea 12 minutes
[14:24] <Kilos> link please. ill try get it sometime
[14:25] <Kilos> for wifi?
[14:25] <magespawn> yes or anything in 2.4 or 5 Ghz  frequency
[14:26] <Eames> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GWoAUM2mAs
[14:26] <magespawn> that is for a helical antenna
[14:28] <magespawn> looks like he has a video for almost every style
[14:29] <Kilos> mind you the only part i struggle with is the folded dipole
[14:30] <Kilos> hard to get it in shape properly and right size
[14:31] <Kilos> mind you i used brazing rod which don bend too easy
[14:32] <magespawn> most of the ones i have seen use copper wire
[14:33] <Kilos> yeah but i only had brzing rods
[14:33] <magespawn> right
[14:33] <magespawn> bbl got to go work
[14:34] <Kilos> there is a site that one ucec to design it accorbing to material thickness and type etc
[14:34] <Kilos> copper 1.6mm is the best i think
[14:39] <inetpro> they'll steal it man
[14:39] <Kilos> will give you the link when i get back on that drive
[14:39] <Kilos> no man there is too little
[14:39] <Kilos> mind you i have all the measurements saved too
[14:40] <inetpro> too little? How much copper can you find in a water meter?
[14:40] <Kilos> will mail it to you
[14:40] <inetpro> they stole my water meter twice
[14:40] <Kilos> haha i dunno
[14:40] <Kilos> but yagi goes on roof or pole like a tv aerial
[14:41] <Kilos> and you can build it for the cost of the copper wire ans 0ne straight dowel 
[14:41] <Kilos> im making mine on plastic but
[14:42] <Kilos> dowel is good for testing cheaply
[14:44] <Kilos> just remember elements must be perfectly inline with each other
[14:47] <Kilos> ohi Golynx 
[14:47] <Golynx> Hey Kilos
[14:48] <Golynx> Hows the 2TB project going
[14:49] <Kilos> struggling
[14:49] <Kilos> wont take anything but xp
[14:49] <Golynx> That suks
[14:51] <Kilos> yeah
[14:52] <Kilos> but ill keep investigating
[14:52] <Golynx> thats good
[14:53] <Kilos> yeah drives are too expensive to buy
[14:54] <Golynx> Ya one mans trash is anothers treasure
[14:54] <Kilos> lol yeah
[14:54] <Golynx> good luck with that
[14:55] <Kilos> ty
[14:55] <Golynx> np
[14:55] <Kilos> only been working on it 6 or 8 months on and off
[14:56] <Kilos> but it has weird probs. if i plug it in as second drive ubuntu does even boot
[14:57] <Kilos> was killed by heavy virriii
[14:59] <Golynx> Did you remove the virus
[15:02] <Kilos> ive formatted the whole drive
[15:03] <Kilos> also the 2TB samsung had a prob. if you tried to install anything but windows it marked the attempt as bad sectors
[15:03] <Golynx> Thats good
[15:04] <Kilos> for windows ya
[15:04] <Golynx> oh, maybe it only eccept a certain file system like FAT32
[15:05] <Kilos> ntfs
[15:05] <Kilos> had win7 on when it crashed
[15:05] <Golynx> or ntfs
[15:06] <Golynx> oh, maybe the drive could be physically damaged too
[15:06] <Kilos> ya i think it was thrown around some
[15:07] <Kilos> hehe
[15:07] <Kilos> got a few that had broken control cards and connectors etc
[15:08] <Golynx> lol, ya some people will throw their HDD against the wall if that virus tempted them that much
[15:08] <Kilos> lol
[15:09] <Golynx> Some can be fixed though, so just the software needs to be fixed in such cases
[15:10] <Kilos> i have got 5 outa 14 totally repaired and all data save
[15:10] <Kilos> d
[15:11] <Kilos> and 2 that work with ubuntu if first 20g is used for windows
[15:11] <Golynx> Thats a good average 
[15:11] <Kilos> eish
[15:12] <Golynx> You use older versions of ubuntu on them
[15:13] <Kilos> i like everything to work, thats why i havent thrown away my faulty psus
[15:13] <Kilos> i use whatever gets them going again
[15:13] <Kilos> from 98 to dos 7.1
[15:13] <Kilos> to ubcd
[15:14] <Kilos> and supergrub
[15:14] <charl> good afternoon all
[15:14] <charl> just spoke to a friend of mine on skype through my regular office telephone
[15:14] <Kilos> i have many repair tools and data recovery tool are in ubuntu repos
[15:14] <Kilos> good charl 
[15:14] <Golynx> Thats awesome Kilos, those old machines really need some revival 
[15:15] <charl> lync has federation with skype so it works perfectly
[15:15] <Golynx> Hi charl
[15:15] <charl> hi Golynx 
[15:15] <charl> all free and through voip
[15:18] <Kilos> linux has awesome tools
[15:20] <Kilos> and the supergrub cd can boot into a drive with damaged mbr and boot sector
[15:22] <Golynx> Nice
[15:22] <Kilos> boot the os that is
[16:00] <nlsthzn> hi all you sexy ppl ;)
[16:01] <Kilos> lol hi nlsthzn 
[16:01] <nlsthzn> I am pooped
[16:01] <Kilos> long day?
[16:03] <nlsthzn> long week that keeps going longer
[16:04] <Kilos> ai!
[16:05] <nlsthzn> and then you even miss the bus and get home late :p
[16:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:09] <nlsthzn> and then you take your issues home and get the wife upset... *sigh*
[16:10] <Kilos> thats bad
[16:11] <magespawn> never take the issues how
[16:11] <magespawn> or rather take them home but not the attitude that comes with them
[16:11] <Kilos> yip
[16:11] <magespawn> recently had a similar 'chat' with my better half too
[16:12] <magespawn> hi nlsthzn 
[16:12] <Kilos> you like playing with fire
[16:13] <nlsthzn> hey magespawn... I know I know ... doesn't help when you still do it :p
[16:13] <magespawn> Kilos, i have just taken an EnGenius  EAP-3660 apart, it was damaged by a power surge, i now have the antenna from inside
[16:14] <somaunn> Hi Guys, i'm back
[16:15] <somaunn> i can see it's very busy
[16:15] <somaunn> what's new here
[16:15] <somaunn> ?
[16:15] <Kilos> magespawn, wifi antenna
[16:16] <Kilos> what that genius thing
[16:16] <magespawn> Kilos, i'll see if i can get a picture online
[16:16] <Kilos> all same somaunn 
[16:16] <nlsthzn> anyone know of a gdebi equal for KDE? QAPT Installer not working so lekker it seems?!
[16:16] <magespawn> yes very small but supposed to be high power
[16:16] <Kilos> left some links for you if you scroll back to where maaz googled for bash for beginners
[16:17] <Kilos> kde installs on its own
[16:17] <magespawn> http://www.engeniustech.com/component/content/article/158-business/267-high-power-indoor-access-point-universal-repeater-with-poe
[16:17] <Kilos> put the package on desktop or in archives and click on it
[16:18] <somaunn> Kilos: i've found some video about Bash and some about useful (every day) cmd under linux
[16:18] <Kilos> lemme try again
[16:18] <somaunn> Kilos: they're quite useful
[16:18] <Kilos> maaz google bash for beginners
[16:18] <Maaz> Kilos: "Bash Guide for Beginners" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ :: "Bash Guide for Beginners - The Linux Documentation Project" http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html :: "The Beginner's Guide to Shell Scripting: The Basics - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/67469/the-beginners-guide-to-shell-scripting-
[16:18] <Maaz> the-basics/ :: "Beginners/BashScripting - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubu…
[16:19] <Kilos> if you can remember the stuff you read thats great somaunn 
[16:20] <somaunn> i can Kilos trust me
[16:20] <Kilos> great i cant 
[16:23] <nlsthzn> tried this and this happened - http://slexy.org/view/s20cBIEdnZ
[16:25] <Kilos> isnt it corrupt nlsthzn 
[16:26] <nlsthzn> this would be the second download of it then giving the same issue?
[16:26] <Kilos> from same place?
[16:28] <magespawn> maybe there is an issue with the server, or somewhere inbetween
[16:28] <magespawn> later all home time for me
[16:30] <nlsthzn> well it specifically for ubuntu and not kubuntu so maybe that is an issue
[16:30] <nlsthzn> I go eat quicky...
[16:30] <nlsthzn> bbl
[17:01] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos seems you where on the money... 3rd download and installed
[18:18] <Kilos> hi smile 
[18:18] <smile> hi Kilos  :)
[18:18] <smile> my exams went fine :D
[18:18] <Kilos> great
[18:18] <smile> I've setup a wiki :)
[18:18] <smile> http://wiki.torios.org
[18:18] <smile> :D
[18:19] <Kilos> meeting 28th at 8.30 pm
[18:20]  * nlsthzn goes sleepy
[18:21] <nlsthzn> night
[18:21] <Kilos> night nlsthzn 
[18:21] <smile> :o
[18:21] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:21] <smile> nlsthzn: good night :)
[18:26] <Guest75021> back ;)
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <smile> :p
[18:27] <smile> hmm. :p
[18:36] <Kilos> smile, meet Golynx 
[18:36] <smile> Hi Golynx :D
[18:36] <Golynx> Hey smile
[18:37] <smile> How are you? ;)
[18:37] <Golynx> Good and you bud
[18:39] <Golynx> I mean i'm good ty and you smile
[18:39] <smile> I'm fine too :)
[18:39] <smile> Sleep could be better :)
[18:40] <smile> Golynx: how did you discover ubuntu-za ? :)
[18:40] <Golynx> Aah tough week for you smile
[18:40] <smile> yeah :) but no exams and no stress, because school is in vacation :D
[18:42] <Golynx> I was looking for somewhere i could find an ubuntu disk in SA on google. i had freenode and this channel popped up in a site. Kilos was helpfull enough to send me a copy of ubuntu 12.04, which i'm thankfull for
[18:42] <smile> :DD
[18:42] <smile> Great! :D
[18:42] <smile> You had Windows XP, I presume? ;)
[18:43] <Golynx> Aah nice
[18:43] <Golynx> Nope win7
[18:43] <Golynx> Was buggy though 
[18:44] <smile> :(
[18:45] <smile> I don't like updates in Windows ;)
[18:46] <Golynx> Never did any updates there, but guess your right
[18:46] <smile> :D
[18:47] <Golynx> lol , are you new here smile
[18:53] <Golynx> Sorry , for 20 seconds there i thought you were a bot
[18:54] <smile> no :D
[18:54] <smile> I'm actually "older" :)
[18:55] <smile> But it has been a while since I've been here :p
[18:55] <Golynx> Oh ok , welcome back then smile ;)
[18:58] <smile> thank you :D
[18:59] <Golynx> np
[18:59] <Kilos> he does wiki stuff Golynx 
[18:59] <smile> cool, ubuntu-za has a twitter channel :p
[18:59] <smile> yes indeed ;)
[18:59] <smile> for Wikipedia :)
[19:00] <smile> I setup a new wiki today
[19:00] <Kilos> ubuntuza
[19:00] <smile> http://wiki.torios.org
[19:00] <smile> :)
[19:00] <smile> Kilos: just clicked "Follow"
[19:00] <Kilos> good
[19:00] <Kilos> it dont follow anyone though
[19:00] <smile> :(
[19:01] <Kilos> and only ubuntu-za notifications there
[19:01] <Kilos> i hate twitter man
[19:01] <Kilos> you can follow me too
[19:01] <Kilos> sharpeys
[19:01] <smile> :D
[19:01] <Kilos> and you will see how often i tweet
[19:02] <smile> Great to finally see ya :D
[19:02] <Kilos> hehe
[19:02] <smile> more than me ;)
[19:02] <smile> you have 30+ tweets more
[19:03] <Kilos> is there a pic there?
[19:03] <smile> @ me? :)
[19:03] <Kilos> of me man
[19:03] <Kilos> i dont member whats there even
[19:06] <smile> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2305435605/mwqikwytdw5sde3g04ap.jpeg
[19:07] <smile> ;)
[19:09]  * Golynx got more headaces
[19:09] <Golynx> cool wiki smile
[19:10] <smile> Golynx: yeah :) but it's a bit slow :(
[19:10] <smile> my own wiki is faster :D
[19:10] <smile> http://wiki.hugsmile.eu
[19:12] <Golynx> Aah thats nice
[19:13] <smile> Yes :)
[19:13] <smile> But caching wasn't available at torios.org
[19:13] <smile> I mailed the website admin :)
[19:13] <smile> I'm only wiki admin :D
[19:16] <Golynx> Atleat you dont have to deal with a server. My damn windows php scripts keeps breaking on ubuntu
[19:16] <Golynx> Atleast*
[19:17] <smile> Golynx: any idea why? :)
[19:19] <Golynx> It works but just all the permissions in ubuntu gives me headace now. Cant create files and folders and all fixes on google fails
[19:19] <Golynx> grrr
[19:21] <Kilos> ask superfly what to use rather than php
[19:22] <Kilos> we ha d some other php peeps here at one time
[19:22] <smile> Golynx: which Ubuntu you're using? Standard ubuntu or any of the derivatives? :p
[19:23] <Golynx> I have to use php for server side development Kilos
[19:24] <Golynx> I remember it was a pain to set up php, mysql, apache on windows , but that was 2 years ago
[19:24] <Golynx> Ubuntu 12.04 smile
[19:24] <Kilos> oh is it a must?
[19:24] <smile> Golynx: go to your terminal :p
[19:25] <smile> do
[19:25] <smile> (=type in)
[19:25] <smile> sudo nautilus
[19:25] <smile> right click any folder you wish, properties, rights
[19:25] <smile> and then change everything to read, write ;)
[19:26] <Golynx> Yes it is Kilos, python is the other one , but i know more about php as a server side lang
[19:26] <Golynx> Already tried that smile , did'nt work
[19:26] <Kilos> ah the fly is a python expert
[19:27] <smile> Golynx: what's the error message? :p
[19:27] <Kilos> smile, he can do upgrading till data falls outa the sky
[19:27] <Kilos> cant
[19:27] <smile> yeah, cool, Kilos ;)
[19:27] <smile> data is falling from the sky
[19:27] <smile> please pay attention, or it will destroy you :p
[19:27] <Kilos> he is very capped
[19:28] <Golynx> here's one smile [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Warning:  mkdir(): Permission denied in /home/gerrit/www/1aMy-IDE/tests/TESTS3/index.php on line 35, referer: http://localhost/1aMy-IDE/tests/TESTS3/index.php
[19:28] <smile> and line 35 reads? :p
[19:29] <smile> And this? :p
[19:29] <smile> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5246114/php-mkdir-permission-denied-problem
[19:29] <Golynx> $file1 = fopen('thetest.txt', 'w');
[19:29] <smile> Have you set the write permissions for the group others, too? :)
[19:29] <smile> (with nautilus rights dialog)
[19:30] <Golynx> Yeah the www folder is set at 755, it showed forbidden before that
[19:31] <Golynx> I use Thunar file manager
[19:31] <Golynx> will try nautilus
[19:34] <Golynx> Nah still errors
[19:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:36] <Golynx> night Kilos
[19:36] <smile> and this, Golynx? :p http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9022507/cant-seem-to-get-correct-permissions-for-mkdir-in-php
[19:41] <Golynx> ty smile i will look into that
[19:42] <smile> I'm leaving now :) Good night! :)