[05:24] <SenseiV183> I installed 13.10 on dell inspiron M5040 laptop and touchpad doesn't work.  Anyone here to walk me through?
[05:25] <holstein> SenseiV183: sure. not sure what to walk you through
[05:25] <holstein> SenseiV183: basically, make sure the touchpad works in a supported operating system
[05:25] <SenseiV183> I know it worked on the LTS
[05:25] <holstein> try the live CD and see if it works with it.. then, try looking for and applying upgrades
[05:25] <holstein> SenseiV183: then, try looking in the bios..
[05:26] <SenseiV183> It's enabled there
[05:27] <holstein> SenseiV183: you can look in lspci and/or lsusb
[05:27] <holstein> SenseiV183: did you look for and apply upgrades and reboot
[05:27] <SenseiV183> I also had a pen tablet plugged in and a wireless keyboard + mouse dongle but the wireless mouse is lost.  Those two pointing devices where on when I did the install if that makes any difference.
[05:27] <holstein> SenseiV183: unplug everything.. look for and apply upgrades and reboot
[05:28] <SenseiV183> If I unplug everthing I don't know if I'll be able to "get around" without a pointer lol.
[05:29] <SenseiV183> In Windows I know all the keyboard tricks.
[05:29] <holstein> SenseiV183: you can do it all from tty
[05:29] <holstein> !tty
[05:29] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:29] <SenseiV183> Ok
[05:29] <holstein> though, you can do it with  whatever you have plugged in
[05:29] <holstein> and *then* after updates are applied, shutdown
[05:29] <holstein> unplug and reboot
[05:30] <SenseiV183> Ahhhh
[05:30] <holstein> basically.. apply possible fixes, and restart with the minimal hardware plugged in
[06:07] <holstein> SenseiV183: just message in here, please
[06:08] <SenseiV183> is forward slash notice a priate message?
[06:08] <SenseiV183> You mean don't use pastebin?
[06:09] <holstein> SenseiV183: just message here
[06:09] <holstein> SenseiV183: whats going on
[06:09] <holstein> ?
[06:09] <SenseiV183> I put the output in the pastebin link
[06:10] <SenseiV183> I thought that was proper irc way
[06:10] <holstein> i'll share it here? or would you like to?
[06:10] <holstein> well. its nothing personal, so here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6766163/
[06:11] <holstein> what would i do? plug a mouse in and enjoy the rest of the evening
[06:11] <holstein> what do i suggest you do? maybe try #ubuntu.. try other live CD's.. make certain the hardware is not disabled somewhere with a keyboard shortcut
[06:11] <SenseiV183> I want a touchpad working for when I want to take my laptop off the desk
[06:11] <holstein> SenseiV183: i hear you
[06:12] <SenseiV183> It's not disabled by the fn key either.
[06:12] <holstein> SenseiV183: nothing about ubuntu is preventing the touchpad from being able to be supported.. and, if you say it used to work, its likely easy enough to make it work
[06:12] <holstein> SenseiV183: does it work from a live CD?
[06:12] <SenseiV183> I didn't try it from the live cd.  I was using my pen tablet
[06:13] <holstein> SenseiV183: how would you feel about firing up, A. the live CD you installed from.. and B. the last live CD that you say supported the device
[06:13] <SenseiV183> Or maybe I did try and it didn't work.  I don't remember when I noticed it doesn't work anymore, but it still works when I boot to Windows 7
[06:13] <holstein> i feel B is particularly handy
[06:13] <holstein> sure.. but you were guaranteed windows support from the manufacturer
[06:14] <holstein> they are welcome to provide you linux support as well... but, i would just try the live CD's and go from there
[06:14] <SenseiV183> Yeah I don't know of 13.10 supports my touchpad or not.  I don't know which item in lspci is my touchpad either.
[06:15] <holstein> the better question is, does your hardware support 13.10?
[06:15] <holstein> and it seems most of it does
[06:15] <holstein> SenseiV183: i dont see the touchpad listed
[06:15] <SenseiV183> and if it works on the live cd, then what?  How to make it work on my HD installed platform?
[06:15] <SenseiV183> Hmmm.
[06:16] <SenseiV183> Everything else works.  Even Sound!
[06:16] <SenseiV183> I wouldn't have thought a laptop touchpad is a pci device.
[06:17] <holstein> could be in lsusb but i dont see it
[06:17] <SenseiV183> me neither hmmm..
[06:17] <SenseiV183> /
[06:18] <SenseiV183> I have an irc related question.  When I type //notice holstein my message here.  Doesn't that go to the channel for all to see?
[06:18] <holstein> no
[06:18] <holstein> you can hilight me here
[06:19] <holstein> "h" or "hol" and hit "tab" key
[06:19] <SenseiV183> How to highlight?
[06:19] <holstein> then you get my nick..
[06:19] <holstein> i see what you were doing
[06:19] <holstein> SenseiV183: i didnt mean to be agro about it.. i though you were "up to something" ;)
[06:20] <SenseiV183> lol.  No.
[06:20] <SenseiV183> Just up to getting help from the community.  And learning irc ropes along the way.
[06:20] <SenseiV183> Thanks for the TAB trick!
[06:20] <SenseiV183> makes life easy.
[06:21] <holstein> yup.. that works in the command line as well
[06:21] <SenseiV183> So if I type out a full nick I just put the comma that the tab key puts thier and a comma after a nick will highlight?
[06:21] <SenseiV183> there
[06:22] <holstein> SenseiV183: depends on how the user has it setup.. i can ask for hilights.. but, any mention of holstein will hilight me
[06:22] <SenseiV183> Autocomplete command line cool.
[06:22] <SenseiV183> Ok.
[06:22] <holstein>  /q or /query is for a PM.. private message
[06:22] <SenseiV183> I'm using the Xchat and I like it.
[06:23] <holstein> yeah.. i liked xchat a lot too
[06:23] <holstein> its well supported and clean
[06:23] <SenseiV183> Is there a way to print the channel window to a printer?
[06:24] <SenseiV183> without copy paste to text editor?
[06:24] <holstein> you can always print screen, or c/p ^
[06:24] <holstein> not sure what irc clients print.. ive never tried it
[06:24] <holstein> always just copy and pasted
[06:30] <SenseiV183> Anyone know any tricks to boost blender performance on Saucy?
[06:30] <holstein> SenseiV183: graphics driver
[06:30] <holstein> !ati | SenseiV183
[06:31] <holstein> if there is a proprietar option.. if not, then you wont boost it much
[06:31] <holstein> proprietary*
[06:31] <SenseiV183> what command can I type to see what driver I have now?
[06:32] <SenseiV183> maybe the answer is in the link duh.  I'll look at it first.
[06:32] <holstein> lspci -k might help
[06:33] <holstein> SenseiV183: im out.. if it gets too quiet for you, try #ubuntu.. or #xubuntu.. hope to catch up with you again soon..
[06:34] <SenseiV183> holstein, Thanks.  Peace out
[07:13] <delt> Turns out it's a BUG in lightdm (doesn't obey ~/.lightdm)  :/
[07:14] <delt> Turns out it's a BUG in lightdm (doesn't obey ~/.dmrc)  :/
[07:15] <delt> (sry about that first one)
[07:16] <Unit193> And /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/ ?
[07:17] <delt> also doesn't work, at least deleting a user
[07:17] <delt> also doesn't work, at least deleting a user's file and logging in again -> same session
[07:17] <delt> sry, keyboard
[07:17] <Unit193> Select a different session?
[07:18] <Unit193> What are you trying to do?
[07:18] <delt> yeah, but i'm wondering how to select the default autologin session from a startup script.
[07:18] <delt> ie rc.local
[07:19] <delt> so that even if i futz around with other desktops, after rebooting it always comes back to my good old xfce (session name ubuntustudio)
[07:21] <delt> ...or if i forget to set it in the little menu in the upper right
[07:29] <Unit193> /var/lib/AccountsService/users/unit193
[07:29] <Unit193> Err, well you get it.
[07:29] <delt> aha, got it :D
[07:30] <Unit193> dmrc is a fallback, not main.
[07:32] <delt> let's test....
[07:36] <delt> nope... weird thing is, it autologged into other desktop (unity) but after logging out, ubuntustudio was selected by default at the login screen
[07:53] <SenseiV183> I got errors installing driver from AMD http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6766491/
[07:54] <SenseiV183> I'm afraid to reboot or shutdown now <G>
[15:22] <oslt> I have lots of trouble with jackd and sound. Is it safe to remove jack-d and qjackctl frome the system?
[15:22] <oslt> and reinstall them?
[15:24] <holstein> oslt: sure
[15:24] <holstein> oslt: you should be able to just reinstall without removing them
[15:24] <cub> oslt, why do you think that will resolve the issues? Or do you just want to set everything backto default?
[15:24] <oslt> That didn't work.
[15:24] <cub> ah holstein is already on it. I leave it to you. :P
[15:25] <holstein> oslt: well, you are assuming that it will work
[15:25] <holstein> cub: hey!.. go for it :)
[15:25] <oslt> Setting everything to default, might solve the problem.
[15:25] <cub> haha no you are way more experienced when it comes to audio
[15:25] <oslt> But there are config files.
[15:25] <oslt> Two days ago everything was running well.
[15:25] <holstein> oslt: what triggered it?
[15:26] <oslt> Shit for audio :-)
[15:26] <oslt> holstein: I really don't have any idea. Jackd seems to be running.
[15:26] <holstein> oslt: i dont understand, and try and keep the language clean.. what im looking for is "i upgraded the kernel and.."
[15:27] <oslt> Maybe it is running twice. I only installed libreoffice 32 bit on 64 bit.
[15:27] <oslt> The software is working.
[15:27] <holstein> oslt: what software is "working"? jack?
[15:27] <oslt> No upgrade, fres install half a week ago.
[15:28] <oslt> LibreOffice, I only wanted to tell what I did meanwhile. I was asked.
[15:28] <oslt> Jack does not work.
[15:28] <holstein> oslt: i would run a live CD to try and determine the hardware is funtioning properly and remove my hard drive and installed os from the equation
[15:29] <holstein> i would look at and share the output of the jack messages window
[15:31] <oslt> holstein: I open Jack control and get this message.
[15:31] <oslt> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/150M
[15:32] <holstein> oslt: i use qjackctl
[15:32] <holstein> oslt: i open it, then click start to start.. i do that *before* opening any apps that might try and start jack on their own
[15:32] <oslt> then i start.
[15:32] <oslt> Okay qcackctl, i meant.
[15:32] <oslt> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/150N
[15:32] <holstein> also, the audio labels can change
[15:32] <holstein> they can jump.. if you have an external card you are using
[15:32] <oslt> holstein: I know.
[15:33] <holstein> oslt: so, make certain you are choosing the proper device
[15:33] <oslt> It is right. It is my usb audio-interface.
[15:33] <holstein> oslt: doulbe check
[15:33] <holstein> oslt: remove the usb interface and test with the internal card
[15:34] <oslt> okay
[15:43] <oslt> holstein: I plugged of the audio interface and chose the internal soundcard. Same sitauation.
[15:51] <oslt> holstein: And now. What do you guess?
[15:58] <cub> I think holstein had to leave for a while. I'm also off, leaving work. Maybe someone will jump in, otherwise hang around and people will pick up later on again.
[15:59] <cub> oslt, ^
[15:59] <oslt> cub: Thank you.
[17:01] <holstein> oslt: how does it work with a live CD?
[17:02] <holstein> oslt: also, i'll run "gksudo qjackctl" *temporarily*, to troubleshoot permissions
[17:02] <oslt> holstein: okay I need a few minutes to check this out.
[17:02] <holstein> oslt: you can try removing the saved xsessions for xfce
[17:07] <oslt> gksudo no better
[17:07] <oslt> How to remove?
[17:07] <holstein> oslt: are you certain jack is not running in the background?
[17:07] <holstein> oslt: remove what?
[17:07] <oslt> xsession errors
[17:07] <oslt> I am not sure that jack is not already running.
[17:08] <holstein> oslt: comfirm that its not
[17:08] <holstein> oslt: im talking about the saved xsessions.. nothing about errors
[17:08] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu
[17:08] <oslt> In task manager there is still jackdbus auto
[17:09] <holstein> oslt: i run "ps aux | grep jack" and kill whatever is running that shouldnt be
[17:09] <oslt> qjackctl is terminated
[17:09] <holstein> oslt: qjackctl is just a GUI
[17:09] <holstein> oslt: qjackctl is just a tool to configure and start jack
[17:10] <oslt> I know, but if terminated jackd shoul stop too!?
[17:10] <holstein> oslt: no
[17:10] <holstein> oslt: if you stop it with the gui, and it stops cleanly.. otherwise, it does what it does
[17:10] <oslt> Is then jack running all the time?
[17:10] <holstein> oslt: i dont know what is doing what when
[17:11] <oslt> okay
[17:11] <holstein> oslt: i know my system and set up.. nothing runs automatically or in the background
[17:11] <holstein> if i think it is, i use "ps aux | grep jack" to check, and kill it
[17:11] <oslt> Is "jackdbus auto" a running instance of jack.
[17:11] <oslt> ?
[17:11] <oslt> This I have in the task manager.
[17:12] <oslt> Mybe thre is something double?
[17:12] <holstein> oslt: i have no idea how you have configured it
[17:13] <holstein> oslt: i use "ps aux" in the terminal to see what is running, and kill what i dont want running
[17:13] <holstein> oslt: if you saved the x session on shutdown or logout once, that could be trying to start jack and breaking it
[17:13] <holstein> oslt: i would kill jackdbus and test
[17:14] <oslt> http://pastie.org/8642875
[17:15] <oslt> Okay I haven't killed already.
[17:16] <oslt> Sorry howto kill command
[17:16] <oslt> kill -all jackdbus?
[17:17] <holstein> oslt: i refer to the PID and kill, or do whatever it takes..
[17:17] <oslt> okay
[17:20] <oslt> Sorry, this is the right pastie http://pastie.org/8642886
[17:21] <oslt> Okay I do killall -9 jackd
[17:21] <zequence> oslt: Just to be sure, kill both jackd and jackdbus
[17:21] <oslt> no process found
[17:21] <oslt> okay
[17:22] <oslt> Operation not allowed for killall -9 jackdbus
[17:24] <holstein> oslt: i just do whatever it takes to make sure nothing is runing that can cause problems
[17:24] <oslt> Result of ps aux | grep jack
[17:24] <oslt>  ishttp://pastie.org/8642894
[17:24] <holstein> oslt: sudo kill whatever
[17:24] <oslt> okay sudo
[17:24] <zequence> oslt: have you started processes as root?
[17:24] <holstein> oslt: i wouldnt over think it.. since, we dont know that its the issue anyways
[17:24] <holstein> oslt: you havent tried removing saved sessions..
[17:25] <holstein> i would try something... then move on if you cant get it.. i mean, realistically, it takes less than 10 minutes to reinstall
[17:26] <oslt> I reinstalled my system three times during 10 days for different reasons.
[17:27] <holstein> oslt: ok.. any of those reasons hardware failure related? that can cause issues like what you are seesing
[17:27] <zequence> oslt: Were you able to kill jackdbus?
[17:31] <oslt> zequence: No process is found.
[17:31] <oslt> wait
[17:31] <oslt> Yes: Thats the reply.
[17:32] <oslt> I am not able to come through howto delete xsessions.
[17:32] <holstein> oslt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu
[17:33] <oslt> holstein: *In session tab, Click 'Clear saved session'
[17:33] <oslt> There is no such tab.
[17:35] <oslt> The other tutorial is to difficult for me.
[17:35] <oslt> part of
[17:36] <oslt> I go very confused, seems to difficult.
[17:38] <oslt> Thanks to all. I quit and think over it.
[17:38] <oslt> get bulimia meanwhile ;-)
[17:38] <zequence> oslt: If no process if found, then there's no process anymore
[17:38] <zequence> oslt: Now, I'd like to see what devices you have
[17:38] <zequence> oslt: this command, paste somehwere: cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:39] <oslt> hw:3 is usb audio device
[17:39] <zequence> ok, so try jackd with hw:3 now: jackd -d alsa -d hw:3
[17:39] <oslt> hw:0 is internal sound card
[17:39] <zequence> does jack start with the internal, but not with the usb device?
[17:40] <holstein> oslt: you cant assume those labels. i would unplug the USB one, and reboot, and use *only* the internal to troubleshoot this
[17:40] <holstein> those labels can change
[17:40] <zequence> right, the order of the cards may change at each boot
[17:40] <oslt> I know, but I checked in qjaclctl
[17:41] <zequence> oslt: So, try jackd now. And tell us, does your internal card work? does your usb device work?
[17:41] <zequence> try jackd from the command line
[17:41] <zequence> not using qjackctl
[17:41] <holstein> oslt: ok.. but what would i do? reduce variables by only having one device.. so im not testing "is my jack configuration correct?" and "is jack functioning" at the same time
[17:41] <oslt> http://pastie.org/8642948
[17:41] <oslt> I already did, switched off audio interface. It is working neither.
[17:41] <zequence> already did, when?
[17:42] <zequence> now?
[17:42] <holstein> oslt: you are referring to 2 devices
[17:42] <zequence> please just do as I say
[17:42] <oslt> Wow Audacious is running with Jack
[17:42] <oslt> zequence I did.
[17:43] <zequence> ok, you are not following my instructions. Impossible to know what is going on
[17:43] <oslt> and I posted the result: http://pastie.org/8642948
[17:43] <holstein> oslt: you should not be running *anything*, as i said, in the background that will try and auto start jack
[17:43] <zequence> I have a problem with internet it seems. Can't load pages right now. bbl
[17:44] <holstein> what would i do? remove my saved xsessions. remove the USB device.. reboot.. open *nothing* but qjackctl and a terminal
[17:44] <oslt> holstein: Sorry I dealed with zequence.
[17:44] <holstein> oslt: i dont see where *anyone* said to start audacious..
[17:45] <oslt> okay
[17:45] <oslt> I stopped.
[17:45] <oslt> Next?
[17:45] <holstein> oslt: sure.. but, not you have to kill jack again
[17:45] <holstein> oslt: you have to check for jack running again.. and *not* open anything
[17:45] <oslt> okay
[17:45] <holstein> oslt: have you removed the xsessions? have you unplugged the USB device?
[17:46] <zequence> ok. back
[17:46] <zequence> oslt: Ok, so determined from the output from your jackd command, your device is working fine
[17:47] <oslt> okay it is killed
[17:47] <zequence> oslt: If you are unsure about qjackctl configs, you could delete (reset) them, and start it over
[17:47] <zequence> oslt: Also, remember always to start jack with whatever jack control application you use before starting any jack applications
[17:47] <zequence> some will start jackd by default
[17:47] <oslt> holstein: I do not know howto remove.
[17:48] <oslt> holstein: I don't want to manipulate system files.
[17:48] <holstein> oslt: ok.. then, consider reinstallation if a live CD seems to support the hardware as you expect
[17:48] <zequence> oslt: qjackctl configs are in ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf
[17:49] <holstein> oslt: you will need to manipulate things in order to troubleshoot and "fix"
[17:49] <zequence> to remove, just do: rm ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf
[17:49] <oslt> holstein okay
[17:49] <zequence> at least we can determine there is nothing wrong with jack starting your device
[17:50] <oslt> zequence I removed iQjackCtl.conf. Yes that's great.
[17:51] <zequence> it happens sometimes that the qjackctl config gets corrupted
[17:51] <oslt> okay
[17:51] <oslt> oslt: But it is good, watching jack working together with audacious, at least.
[17:51] <oslt> zequence: Now start qjackctl again?
[17:52] <zequence> oslt: first, close all jack applications, and kill jack
[17:52] <oslt> okay
[17:52] <zequence> then, start qjackctl, start jack, then start jack applications
[17:54] <oslt> qjackctl is running, and now?
[17:54] <holstein> oslt: what i read is, start jack applications
[17:54] <holstein> oslt: above, zequence states.. start qjackctl.. you have done that?
[17:55] <oslt> holstein: yes
[17:55] <holstein> then, start jack using qjackctl. you have said "is running".. so, is that JACK? or qjackctl?
[17:55] <oslt> qjackctl
[17:55] <holstein> oslt: if its just qjackctl, then you will start jack.. *then* open jack applications
[17:55] <holstein> oslt: qjackctl is *not* jack.. its just a way to manage and start it.. and stop it
[17:56] <oslt> holstein: I know. But I am not sure if jack is really running, by activating qjackctl.
[17:56] <holstein> so.. if you havent used qjackctl to start jack, use it to start jack by pressing the "Start" button.. *then*, open jack applications such as audacious
[17:56] <holstein> oslt: i am
[17:56] <holstein> oslt: its not, if you didnt start it using the tool
[17:56] <oslt> holstein: Yeah
[17:56] <holstein> oslt: it has a button that is labled "start".. and "stop"
[17:56] <holstein> oslt: you can click it to start jack
[17:57] <oslt> Audacious is working. Guess with Jack.
[17:57] <holstein> oslt: you start audacious *after* starting jack
[17:57] <oslt> Yes
[17:57] <oslt> I give ardour a tiral, okay?
[17:58] <holstein> i wouldnt jump right to ardour from here.. but, do what you like
[17:59] <oslt> Yes and ardour is working. Seems that killing jack and then deleting confiugration file was right.
[17:59] <holstein> oslt: you removed the config file for qjackctl
[17:59] <oslt> Yes like zequence told me
[18:00] <oslt> rm ~/.config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf
[18:00] <zequence> qjackctl has its own configuration, but when you make settings with it, it will also write settings for both jackd and jackdbus
[18:01] <holstein> oslt: im just stating what you did.. you didnt remove a config for jack.. it was for qjackctl
[18:01] <oslt> I don't know, but now it seems to be working: why?
[18:01] <oslt> killing jackd with sudo?
[18:02] <zequence> perhaps you started it as root?
[18:02] <oslt> No
[18:02] <holstein> oslt: you removed the config for qjackctl that had some settings that were causing issues
[18:02] <oslt> Yes, I guess.
[18:03] <holstein> oslt: ? you did that, and it worked.. so, thats pretty much a correlation for me
[18:03] <oslt> Luv u all.
[18:04] <oslt> I hope it will stay for a while.
[18:04] <holstein> oslt: "hope" is not something that effects hardware or software..
[18:05] <oslt> Hope 2
[18:06] <oslt> Thanks a lot.
[18:06] <oslt> I must walk the dog.
[18:14] <zequence> say hello to it from me
[19:19] <rhizo> hi folks
[19:20] <rhizo> I just installed ubuntu studio 13.10 and configured my soundcards with jack
[19:23] <rhizo> with patchage I tried to connect my midi keyboard to a preinstalled synth, hexter
[19:25] <rhizo> but i could not play any software synth with my midi keyboard. I also tried a different drumpad midi controller, nothing happened
[19:25] <rhizo> when i hit "send test note" in hexter, I can hear sound
[19:26] <rhizo> should I try midi routing with another application or has anyone an idea why this happens?
[19:34] <rhizo> with hm, with virtual midi keyboard i can send notes
[19:38] <rhizo> oh, sorry, I  was on the wrong channel with my hardware devices...
[19:56] <joeblow89237> HI
[19:57] <joeblow89237> HI?
[19:58] <joeblow89237> i have A LOT of questions
[19:58] <rhizo> Hi
[19:59] <joeblow89237> yeaaah
[19:59] <joeblow89237> so a lot of WEIRD things happened to me while I was discovering Ubuntu Studio
[19:59] <joeblow89237> btw excuse my english it may be broken
[20:00] <joeblow89237> and Im wondering if you guys could maybe, either explain what the hell is going or teach me a few things
[20:00] <joeblow89237> or actually I need to learn a lot
[20:00] <rhizo> what's the weird things?
[20:01] <joeblow89237> like someone is in my fucking computer
[20:01] <joeblow89237> oops sorry
[20:01] <joeblow89237> for the swear
[20:01] <joeblow89237> I GUESS
[20:01] <joeblow89237> maybee im just PARANOID
[20:02] <joeblow89237> no?
[20:03] <joeblow89237> the thing is most of the time I had no internet connection
[20:05] <joeblow89237> ALSO ID like to know if theres a more precise pitch shifter DSP for audacious
[20:05] <joeblow89237> pitch changer
[20:07] <joeblow89237> i'm freaking out...
[20:09] <joeblow89237> oh man
[20:10] <joeblow89237> :(
[20:11] <joeblow89237> when do you people get your free time?
[20:18] <joeblow89237> awwwwwwwh
[20:18] <rhizo> maybe the vocproc lv2 plugin is something for you...
[20:19] <joeblow89237> rhizo what do you do here?
[20:21] <joeblow89237> how would I use this plugin with audacious
[20:21] <rhizo> Just hanging around, I installed Ubuntu Studio and was too dizzy to realize that I have set my midi controllers on different channels and I wondered why I could not play soft synths
[20:21] <joeblow89237> ah
[20:21] <joeblow89237> ok
[20:21] <joeblow89237> do you know how you umn
[20:21] <joeblow89237> pass all audio onto jack
[20:21] <joeblow89237> instead of pulseaudio
[20:22] <joeblow89237> like have jack used as default
[20:22] <joeblow89237> for everything when you start up ubuntu studio
[20:24] <rhizo> On a different installation I used zita-ajbridge to have it bridged
[20:25] <joeblow89237> mmhhh
[20:25] <joeblow89237> zita-ajbridge
[20:25] <joeblow89237> whats that?
[20:26] <rhizo> if you want to have some audio output from programs that do not have jack output in jack
[20:26] <joeblow89237> alright
[20:26] <rhizo> it is a sound bridge
[20:26] <joeblow89237> is it easy to use?
[20:27] <rhizo> I think so
[20:27] <joeblow89237> can I simply install it with apt-get ?
[20:28] <rhizo> just install and run it and the programs should appear in patchage for example
[20:28] <joeblow89237> alrightt uhhh
[20:28] <joeblow89237> mmhh im not on ubuntu studio right now
[20:28] <rhizo> yes, the name of the package is zita-ajbridge
[20:29] <rhizo> then write it down *g*
[20:29] <joeblow89237> yeah already done
[20:29] <joeblow89237> i was just wondering how it works
[20:30] <joeblow89237> oh yeah and when I use vlc with jack I get problem with channels
[20:32] <rhizo> Do you have stereo or 5.1?
[20:32] <joeblow89237> I have stereo
[20:33] <joeblow89237> but yeah it kinda feels like im getting channels from a 5.1
[20:33] <rhizo> I think you can set it up in vlc to have stereo downmix
[20:33] <joeblow89237> yeah but I searched for it
[20:33] <joeblow89237> cant find it
[20:34] <rhizo> I have a look...
[20:43] <rhizo> try to deactivate the dolby surround option under options, audio...
[20:48] <joeblow89237> I remember doing it
[20:48] <joeblow89237> did not help
[20:48] <joeblow89237> anyway
[21:11] <joeblow89237> hi...
[21:11] <joeblow89237> is anyone here?
[21:15] <rhizo> sure
[21:16] <rhizo> nice, with my ubuntu studio installation all my midi timing issues are gone
[21:19] <joeblow89237> yeah
[21:19] <joeblow89237> i dont know why you would use anything else than this kernel
[21:20] <joeblow89237> or one that works like it
[21:26] <rhizo> and there are cool things in the repos that are new to me...
[21:33] <joeblow89237> yeah
[21:33] <joeblow89237> ok
[21:33] <joeblow89237> is anyone here working on ubuntu studio?
[21:33] <joeblow89237> that could tell me how I could have a minimal installation of it
[21:33] <joeblow89237> or at least
[21:33] <joeblow89237> without the photo editing stuff
[21:34] <joeblow89237> or how to modify a kernel
[21:34] <joeblow89237> so it becomes uuh low latency
[21:34] <joeblow89237> I have no knowledge...
[21:49] <joeblow89237> ok
[21:49] <joeblow89237> um
[22:01] <joeblow89237> hello?
[22:25] <cub> joeblow89237, if you have installed Ubuntu Studio you already have the lowlatency kernel, no need to modify it.
[22:26] <cub> You can choose at boot to run with the standard kernel, but usually you start with lowlatency
[22:30] <cub> joeblow89237, as for removing the photo editing applications I think you can remove the ubuntustudio-graphics package. I haven't tried it myself so don't take my word for it ...
[22:39] <joeblow89237> um
[22:39] <joeblow89237> yeah but lets say I want to use another distro
[22:39] <joeblow89237> with a low latency kernel
[22:39] <joeblow89237> like debian
[22:39] <joeblow89237> because I don't know, it's lighter
[23:08] <joeblow89237> no?
[23:08] <joeblow89237> alllriigghhtt...
[23:08] <joeblow89237> no one?