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glenrockwhere do the little application icons in the Window Buttons (task bar) come from?   some apps seem to respect whats in my icon theme, but others don't01:41
glenrockfor example,  xchat uses the default icon, even though there's a replacement icon in my theme01:41
starratswould like to get rid of the annoying taskbar that pops up when I'm trying to type in that area of the bottom of the screen, how do I cancel it or hide it please?01:47
glenrockstarrats: Settings > Panel.  At the top, you will see a dropdown with Panel 0 and Panel 1.   0 is the top panel and 1 is that bottom panel.   you can select panel 1 and either tell it to not autohide, or delete it with the X button01:49
starratsokay thank you glenrock, know what you're saying, saw it earlier but wasn't sure01:50
glenrocknp01:50
starrats:)01:50
xubuntu862hello?02:04
holsteinxubuntu862: lots of folks here.. just ask if you have a question, or /join #xubuntu-offtopic for chat.. check the /topic02:05
xubuntu862clear02:05
xubuntu862hahaha02:05
xubuntu862i need some help02:05
xubuntu296hallo?06:37
xubuntu296I have a question06:38
xubuntu296I'm wondering if anyone knows about touchscreen compatibility with xubuntu?06:38
xubuntu296hello?06:39
svetlanahi07:09
svetlanatouchscreen should work. does it not? what hardware?07:09
deltTurns out it's a BUG in lightdm (doesn't obey ~/.dmrc)  :/07:14
Dr_Noi used xrandr to activate the proper screen resolution but how do i make this permanent in xubuntu 13.10?07:28
xubuntu296oh I'm sorry I was online looking for an answer, it's an Acer Aspire V507:28
xubuntu296I'm actually trying to convince a friend of mine to swap to Xubuntu from Windows and he just wanted to be sure the touchscreen before installing07:29
xubuntu296*worked07:30
Unit193Try a live cd, check it out before installing.07:30
xubuntu296That's what I'm using this very second07:31
xubuntu296I've been showing him how much betterer this stuff is07:32
xubuntu296The screen isn't responding to touching at the moment but it may be because it's not fully installed with updates and the right packages07:33
Unit193What type is it?07:34
xubuntu296The distro? Xubuntu 12.04.307:34
xubuntu296On an Acer Aspire V507:35
Unit193I did a apt-cache search on that and came up with xinput-calibrator to calibrate input, but I've never used Xubuntu on a touch screen.  Alright, I'll see if I can find the device.07:35
xubuntu296I saw that earlier myself, but it won't let me get the xinput_calibrator *I think* because it isn't fully installed yet, but I have a sneaky suspiscion it will once he's switched the OS over fully07:37
Unit193Oh right, what's in Menu > Settings Manager > Additional Drivers ?07:38
xubuntu296Der didn't even think of that, loading now :-)07:40
xubuntu296No propritary drivers in use on this system07:40
delthow come there's no "additional drivers" in ubuntu studio?07:41
delti remember setting it up in xubuntu using that, but in ubuntu studio there's no such entry in the settings07:41
Unit193delt: Part of xubuntu-default-settings.07:41
deltcan i install that in ubu studio?07:42
xubuntu296So once I install this I can activate the propritary driver for it and calibrate with xinput_calibrator...... Sound about right?07:43
Unit193xubuntu296: If it doesn't detect it now, shouldn't then.  What's lspci, or lsusb about it?07:43
Unit193delt: I've never used Ubuntu Studio, in theory maybe.07:43
xubuntu296Bugger07:44
Unit193Open a terminal and paste  lsusb | pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit   and give me the two links.07:45
xubuntu296OK, one second07:45
deltThe program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages: * pastebinit * pastebinit07:45
deltwhy is it listing it twice?07:46
delt(those are on separate lines in the other term)07:46
deltanyway, installed it, works =)07:48
xubuntu296http://paste.ubuntu.com/6766526/07:50
xubuntu296http://paste.ubuntu.com/6766528/07:50
deltquestion, what do i do to switch between 32bit and 64bit versions of the OS?07:51
elfydelt: install both07:51
Unit193delt: Reinstall. :P07:51
deltargh :(07:51
deltjust changing the kernel, doesn't that do it?07:51
Dr_Noi used xrandr to activate the proper screen resolution but how do i make this permanent in xubuntu 13.10?07:51
elfyDr_No: add it to startup apps - personally I use arandr to do it with a gui07:52
Dr_Noelfy: thank you07:52
elfysession & startup - application autostart07:53
deltsay i boost this machine to >= 4GB ram, and want to run a 64bit kernel?07:53
Unit193delt: 32 bit can handle that thanks to PAE, but dual boot or reinstall as far as I know.07:54
elfyyep - same here07:55
deltUnit193: wouldn't that be slower than native 64bit addressing?07:55
delt+ pae seems like the same kind of retarded shit they did with EMS/XMS back in the 80's07:57
elfy!language07:57
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:57
deltsry07:57
xubuntu296Norti :-P07:58
Unit193xubuntu296: Well, nothing jumps out to me, but I've never owned a touch screen (except on an old G3 mac.)  In theory you could try a newer version as it may have newer drivers, but who knows.08:00
elfyI did see someone in here 'recently' saying it had worked for them, not got anymore detail than that though08:01
xubuntu296Well thank you very much guys for the help, I'm pretty sure I can get it to work, there is always a solution!08:03
ESL|fzninuseHi there, my Huawei E1750 Internet Stick isn't working. I tried several things with usb_modeswitch but nothing worked so far.. any ideas? (Xubuntu 13.10)08:18
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jostHi! I've got a Acer Aspire One D270 netbook here, with XUbuntu 13.10 on it. The problem: I can't log in on the graphical login mask anymore, the password is not accepted, and the touchpad does not work anymore. Logging in on a shell works as expected, so I assume that it's not a switched-on numlock or capslock. Any ideas how to fix this?12:28
jostAs far as I know, it just stopped working some days ago12:29
josttest_password12:29
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josteven using the screen keyboard does not work for password input12:31
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bgardnerjost: Create another user at the command line and see if logging in as that user works?13:11
jostbgardner: mom13:11
bgardnerjost: I also have a D270 with Xubuntu on it, so let me know how it goes and I can share my setup with you.13:12
jostbgardner: login via shell has stopped working too, only guest-accounts still work13:21
bgardnerjost: Hmm.13:22
bgardnerjost: Boot single user and reset your primary user's password?13:22
josttrying that13:22
bgardnerjost: Although your symptoms make me wonder if your keyboard is dying and not passing every keystroke.  Can't imagine what else you have going on.13:23
jostchecked that by entering the pw in the login field - it looks fine13:24
bgardnerGood idea.  Do the password reset and let's see what you get.  That's actually good news, too - software we can fix.13:25
jostbgardner: resetting the password via root-shell worked... it did not when I logged into the console. Reason seems to be some interrupted or otherwise failed dpkg operation13:46
bgardnerjost: So what's your current situation?  You can log in at terminal but still not on graphical?13:48
jostI can log in graphically, and am trying to recover what went wrong with the package management13:48
bgardnerjost: K, let us know how that turns out.13:50
jostbgardner: everything works again, thanks for your help :-)14:12
bgardnerjost: You did most of the work, but glad to assist around the edges.  :)14:12
Sysiis jockey the only way to install nvidia driver on 12.04 or can I just install the driver package with apt and create xorg.conf myself?14:12
manos_hello everyone14:57
manos_:)14:57
manos_i run 13.10 since yesterday14:58
manos_but my wireless internet is off and the greek font!!!14:59
manos_any help for that?15:00
baizonmanos_: what hardware?15:00
manos_xubuntu 13.1015:00
holsteinmanos_: what wifi hardware are you running with the xubuntu 13.10 software?15:10
Peyamhi15:35
PeyamMy xubuntu on my laptop cant find my wifi. it shows all wifis around but not mine. With windows I can see all of them15:36
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henrylinuxhi, I am on 13.10 and I am experiencing a weird problem16:46
henrylinuxI wanted to try out unity to day so I ran "sudo apt-get installubuntu-desktop  --no-install-recommends "16:48
henrylinuxi rebooted and at the login screen, I chose Ubuntu for my session16:48
henrylinuxall the text was in Arial and lots of things were missing (althoudh dash was working and the bar on the left ware there)16:49
henrylinuxrebooted again, logged into the xubuntu session and removed the ubuntu-desktop16:49
henrylinuxever since, my notifications in the upper right are suddenly formatted in arial and disappear when I hover over them16:49
henrylinuxalso, the volume indicator looks different now16:50
henrylinuxI think I could run "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" if I go into tty1 and log in as root but I suppose that's my last streaw16:51
Sysifor notifications, install xfce4-notifyd and/or remove notify-osd16:52
Sysihow is the volume indicator different?16:53
henrylinuxok16:53
GridCubehenrylinux, try loguing in as guest16:53
henrylinuxwill post a screenshot in 1 min16:53
henrylinuxScreenshot: http://imgur.com/UEUE9D316:55
henrylinuxthis is not the one I had up until 1 hour ago or so16:55
henrylinuxalright, so xfce4-notfyd is installed already...16:55
henrylinuxah, alright16:56
henrylinux"sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-notifyd" it now looks the same16:56
henrylinuxagain16:56
Sysiremove notify-osd16:57
henrylinuxok did that16:57
henrylinuxalright I will try to log in as guest16:58
henrylinuxwill be back later16:58
GridCubesee if that fixes your settings, if it does then just remove the .config/xfce4 folder from your home16:59
SysiI'm confident it's just the notification daemon17:00
henrylinuxGridCube, it works again now17:00
henrylinuxcool cool cool.17:00
henrylinuxthank you!17:01
xubuntu716good evening...20:08
xubuntu716somehow a nvidia driver deleted the EDID fo the notebook screen. how to restore the EDID?20:09
xubuntu716anyone available for chatting?20:11
bekksA driver cannot delete an EDID, since the EDID is send by the display device.20:12
xubuntu716i found several post about the prop. nvidia driver deleted EDID.. i did some days of research to find out where the error20:14
xubuntu716is comning from20:14
bekksA driver cant delete the EDID.20:14
xubuntu716what do you think of this..http://pastebin.com/kRreTDas20:15
bekksHow is that related to "the driver deleted the EDID"?20:18
Sysido you actually have a problem with modesetting or something?20:19
xubuntu716i was reading tons of forums aso, and i found severel people writing about nvidia driver manipulated edid20:21
xubuntu716Xubuntu is giving errors20:22
bekksWhich errors?20:22
Sysiif it works, don't fix it ;)20:22
Sysimy intel netbook has always given errors about edid20:22
xubuntu716http://pastebin.com/YANn2UDD this is Xorg.0.log20:23
bekksxubuntu716: For the last time: the driver isnt capable of modifying the EDID at all.20:24
xubuntu716,-)20:24
xubuntu716any other ideas?20:25
bekksI havent read about a specific problem yet.20:27
xubuntu716and i cannot find an example by the moment20:27
bekksWell, without a specific problem we cant help you I guess.20:28
xubuntu716but there is something wrong with the edid or not?20:29
bekksNo, why?20:30
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Romulus_Hey folks. Making my fifth attempt to get an Ubuntu installation in without screwing it up. My problem is specifically getting AMD Catalyst drivers happening. Tried to achieve this 'manually' in terminal, keep wrecking my OS. Is there a safe way to get this right? Not sure about versions and compatibilities. Would greatly appreciate any guidance.21:48
peyamRomulus_, why dont u use the default open source one drivers?21:56
peyamand if you really want the AMD Cat you should fo to their website and choose ur modell and then install. sometimes it doesnt show anything on ur screen becouse AMD increase the resolution and your monitor may not show that resolution21:57
Unit193Romulus_: What about Settings Manager > Additional Drivers?21:57
Romulus_I'm not sure what is optimal. I have previously tried proprietary from the AMD website, thinking it would be most likely to succeed. It wiped out my last Xubuntu desktop.21:58
Romulus_ok, settings manager...I'll have a look at that.21:58
peyamUnit193, that option is not so good since the proportiy driver from AMD is not the last one and may couse problems21:59
Romulus_So you're recommending open source as more likely to succeed?21:59
Unit193Have you tried it?  The reason it's in there is because it's supposed to work with Ubuntu.  I didn't say to go to their website.22:00
Romulus_I saw on google that the screen wipeout is known in xubuntu, but found no coherent fix nor could understand the explanation of where the incompatibility lies.22:02
Romulus_I downloaded their latest beta and unzipped it, built some kind of package resulting in a .deb file, subsequently executed22:03
Romulus_train wreck. I think it works in other forms of Ubuntu...but My hardware seems to do better with Xubuntu, so I'm looking for a way22:05
Romulus_peyam, how do I get the open source versions?22:05
peyamit is inslaeed by default22:08
peyamif you go to setting>software sources > additional driver . one of them should be chosen22:08
peyamsoftware & updates22:08
peyamsorry misspelled22:08
Romulus_ok, let me look there a sec22:09
Romulus_I'm totally confused. I don't see any mention of catalyst drivers in any of these22:13
Romulus_How can I set up my graphics card?22:13
Romulus_Sorry, new to this OS and pretty clueless, having been on Windows my whole life22:14
peyamthe graphic driver is installed by default22:16
peyamcatalyst is not a driver22:17
peyamit s controll panel for ur graphic card22:17
peyamif u see an aption chosen in the additional driver, that's ur driver22:17
peyamyou dont need catalyst22:17
Romulus_How is my OS speaking to the graphics card without driver installation22:19
peyamRomulus_, it is installed. u havent notticed that22:24
cubRomulus_, there is a default driver22:24
peyamtake a screenshot on ur Additional driver22:24
peyamlinux is not like windows where u need to install everything manuelly22:24
Romulus_peyam, I'm sure u are right. Where can I view my hardware config?22:40
elfyin a terminal lsconfig22:41
elfyusb things - lsusb22:41
Romulus_lsconfig command not found22:44
peyamRomulus_, lspci22:47
elfynot at all sure where I got that from ... thanks peyam :)22:47
Romulus_thanks. got it.22:48
elfysorry Romulus_22:48
Romulus_no problem22:48
elfyother than the obvious one here :)22:49
Romulus_the main problem is me demolishing my OS 4 times22:49
Romulus_lol22:49
Romulus_linux beginner22:49
Romulus_strager in a strange land22:50
elfyI installed 7.04 10 times in 2 weeks - such is life22:50
Romulus_lol22:50
Romulus_learning process22:50
elfyyep22:50
peyamRomulus_, if you wana see ur graphic card use lspci -v and look at VGA paragraph22:51
peyamI have 2 generation intel processor22:52
peyamtime to get the 4th generation?22:52
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peyamRomulus_, this is my desktop http://peyam30.deviantart.com/art/Devianart-42639967622:54
Sysiis there pulseaudio applet/indicator that lets you quickly select sound output device or can I make launchers with dbus commands or something?23:03
knomeSysi, pavucontrol lets you do that23:03
Sysiknome: it's not very handy23:04
Sysimaybe if I set wmctrl or devilspie to make pavucontrol window big enough ehwn I open it23:05
knomemaybe23:06
knomei guess there are some cli commands as well for that23:06
knomeSysi, try pa[tab][tab]23:06

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