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jarkko_http://pastebin.com/5pFSag1n05:11
jarkko_what is wrong that i always get those errors?05:11
valoriejarkko_: i get the same errors every time I build Amarok too07:42
valorieso I think it's a cmake error07:43
jarkko_valorie: why do you think its amarok07:56
jarkko_i have seen that error so many times already07:56
jarkko_would think its easy to fix07:56
valorieit isn't amarok07:56
valorieI said I saw the same errors when I build amarok07:57
valoriewhich leads me to think it comes from cmake07:57
jarkko_Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element07:57
jarkko_have you seen that one?07:57
valorieI have, but I can't recall where07:57
jarkko_starting steam from console gives you that07:57
jarkko_and lots of these07:58
jarkko_(steam:3136): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.07:58
valorieI'm sure they are too busy building the system to hunt down trivial errors07:58
jarkko_who do refer?07:59
jarkko_valve or kubuntu guys07:59
valoriesteam07:59
valorieoh, none of this has anything to do with kubuntu07:59
jarkko_i believe their linux coders have plenty to do07:59
jarkko_there were some updates today too08:00
jarkko_valorie: does developers have internal interfaces other than launchpad08:41
valorieinternal interface?08:45
valorienot exactly sure what you mean08:46
valoriethis irc channel and kubuntu-devel are the major interfaces08:46
valoriewe use notes, the trello cards and various webpages/wiki pages to keep track of stuff08:47
valorielaunchpad builds stuff, etc., and has the ubuntu bug system08:47
valorieand then obviously we use the KDE infra for lots of stuff08:47
lordievaderGood morning.08:58
jarkko_who decides what versions of things are included08:58
valorieI'm not sure what you mean, jarkko_?08:58
valorieversions of what things?08:58
jarkko_programs08:59
valoriethe maintainers release things when they are ready09:00
valorieand if our team agrees that the new release is an improvement, we package it09:00
valorieit's almost always teams of people working together09:01
jarkko_ubuntu and kubuntu have same repos?09:07
valorieyes, except for our PPAs and such09:11
valoriealthough the rest of the *buntu users can use them too, although I'm not sure why they would if they weren't running kubuntu09:12
valorieall the *buntus use Debian as a source, for the most part09:12
jarkko_how different are other distors softwares?09:15
jarkko_*buntus use debian base, but there are distros that dont use09:15
valoriewell, all KDE distros have the same KDE software, if they package it all09:16
valorieright, the others have a different base09:16
jarkko_any idea of its size?09:16
jarkko_or how many are those with huge software bases09:16
valoriesize of what?09:16
jarkko_software base, size in applications09:16
valoriemost linux distros have roughly the same number of packages09:17
jarkko_so would think they copy eachother?09:17
valorieexcept those that are deliberately small or selective09:17
valoriepeople get used to particular applications and want to use them no matter what distro they are on09:17
valorieheck, I used OpenOffice back in the day on Win, then on Lin09:18
valoriein Mandrake, then Gentoo, and finally Kubuntu09:18
jarkko_what did you like gentoo?09:19
jarkko_just curious09:19
valorieI didn't know enough at the time, and my son got sick of fixing my computer09:19
valorie:-)09:19
valoriewith kub, I can fix most everything myself or with the help of the community09:19
jarkko_but it would be good if all distros could use same software sources and package format09:20
jarkko_arch linux has very good tips how to do things09:20
jarkko_if you google problems, you usually get result of arch linux site09:20
valoriewell, good luck with that09:21
valoriepeople like their own format best09:21
valoriethey have their own histories using them, etc.09:21
valorieas for sources -- if you choose KDE, you have all the KDE software sources available to you09:22
valorieno matter what distro you use09:22
valorieone can always build from source09:22
valorieif there is no package09:22
jarkko_have there been any talk about adding some FAQ on linux install?09:23
valorieagain, not sure what you mean?09:23
valoriewe have docs which explain how to install09:24
valoriewith screenshots09:24
jarkko_but after install09:24
valoriewe're open to adding more to our docs if we're lacking necessary information09:24
jarkko_where could i see some?09:25
valorieplease visit the wiki and check out what we have for Trusty: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu09:25
valoriedocs.kubuntu.org are the docs for saucy09:25
jarkko_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shared-mime-info/+bug/28959209:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 289592 in shared-mime-info (Ubuntu) "Unknown media types in /usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml" [Wishlist,Triaged]09:36
valorieheh09:38
valorieodd that it was filed in launchpad, yeah09:38
valorieshould be in bko09:38
valorieAND: 09:43
valoriechud (richud.com) wrote on 2012-04-29: #2709:43
jarkko_seems harmless bug but would like to get ridd of it09:43
valorieactually you can fix it simply by doing09:43
valorie$ sudo rm /usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml09:43
valorie$ sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime09:43
valoriethere is the solution09:43
jarkko_i saw09:43
jarkko_but it should be fixed on installs09:43
jarkko_what ever the reason is09:43
valoriethis is not a problem for kubuntu to fix; it must be a patch up to KDE09:44
valorieif this is important to you, please do that09:44
valorieI do appreciate you looking it up09:45
valorieit was interesting reading09:45
jarkko_what is this kde.xml?09:46
valorieif you want to read it, either load it into kate, or just `cat /usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml`09:52
jarkko_i opened it on nano09:52
valoriesure09:56
BluesKajHiyas all12:23
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soeewhat would be the command to switch login manager ?13:41
soeeif i have both lightdm and kdm ?13:42
21WAB6ABDInconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 770: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!14:29
21WAB6ABDwhat that means?14:29
yofelsoee: dpkg-reconfigure kdm (or lightdm) would do it14:40
soeeyofel: yes, wanted to test lightd again if works but sadly no, so im on kdm again14:41
soee*lightdm14:41
manchickenReview board is crazy slow.16:54
manchickenDoes anybody know the process of getting out of disabled-developers on KDE?17:41
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Riddellhttp://richg42.blogspot.de/2014/01/vogl-opengl-tracerdebugger-bonus-content.html  valve debugger developed on kubuntu23:59
Riddellnice kubuntu wire post to be had out of that one23:59

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