[05:11] <jarkko_> http://pastebin.com/5pFSag1n
[05:11] <jarkko_> what is wrong that i always get those errors?
[07:42] <valorie> jarkko_: i get the same errors every time I build Amarok too
[07:43] <valorie> so I think it's a cmake error
[07:56] <jarkko_> valorie: why do you think its amarok
[07:56] <jarkko_> i have seen that error so many times already
[07:56] <jarkko_> would think its easy to fix
[07:56] <valorie> it isn't amarok
[07:57] <valorie> I said I saw the same errors when I build amarok
[07:57] <valorie> which leads me to think it comes from cmake
[07:57] <jarkko_> Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element
[07:57] <jarkko_> have you seen that one?
[07:57] <valorie> I have, but I can't recall where
[07:57] <jarkko_> starting steam from console gives you that
[07:58] <jarkko_> and lots of these
[07:58] <jarkko_> (steam:3136): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
[07:58] <valorie> I'm sure they are too busy building the system to hunt down trivial errors
[07:59] <jarkko_> who do refer?
[07:59] <jarkko_> valve or kubuntu guys
[07:59] <valorie> steam
[07:59] <valorie> oh, none of this has anything to do with kubuntu
[07:59] <jarkko_> i believe their linux coders have plenty to do
[08:00] <jarkko_> there were some updates today too
[08:41] <jarkko_> valorie: does developers have internal interfaces other than launchpad
[08:45] <valorie> internal interface?
[08:46] <valorie> not exactly sure what you mean
[08:46] <valorie> this irc channel and kubuntu-devel are the major interfaces
[08:47] <valorie> we use notes, the trello cards and various webpages/wiki pages to keep track of stuff
[08:47] <valorie> launchpad builds stuff, etc., and has the ubuntu bug system
[08:47] <valorie> and then obviously we use the KDE infra for lots of stuff
[08:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <jarkko_> who decides what versions of things are included
[08:58] <valorie> I'm not sure what you mean, jarkko_?
[08:58] <valorie> versions of what things?
[08:59] <jarkko_> programs
[09:00] <valorie> the maintainers release things when they are ready
[09:00] <valorie> and if our team agrees that the new release is an improvement, we package it
[09:01] <valorie> it's almost always teams of people working together
[09:07] <jarkko_> ubuntu and kubuntu have same repos?
[09:11] <valorie> yes, except for our PPAs and such
[09:12] <valorie> although the rest of the *buntu users can use them too, although I'm not sure why they would if they weren't running kubuntu
[09:12] <valorie> all the *buntus use Debian as a source, for the most part
[09:15] <jarkko_> how different are other distors softwares?
[09:15] <jarkko_> *buntus use debian base, but there are distros that dont use
[09:16] <valorie> well, all KDE distros have the same KDE software, if they package it all
[09:16] <valorie> right, the others have a different base
[09:16] <jarkko_> any idea of its size?
[09:16] <jarkko_> or how many are those with huge software bases
[09:16] <valorie> size of what?
[09:16] <jarkko_> software base, size in applications
[09:17] <valorie> most linux distros have roughly the same number of packages
[09:17] <jarkko_> so would think they copy eachother?
[09:17] <valorie> except those that are deliberately small or selective
[09:17] <valorie> people get used to particular applications and want to use them no matter what distro they are on
[09:18] <valorie> heck, I used OpenOffice back in the day on Win, then on Lin
[09:18] <valorie> in Mandrake, then Gentoo, and finally Kubuntu
[09:19] <jarkko_> what did you like gentoo?
[09:19] <jarkko_> just curious
[09:19] <valorie> I didn't know enough at the time, and my son got sick of fixing my computer
[09:19] <valorie> :-)
[09:19] <valorie> with kub, I can fix most everything myself or with the help of the community
[09:20] <jarkko_> but it would be good if all distros could use same software sources and package format
[09:20] <jarkko_> arch linux has very good tips how to do things
[09:20] <jarkko_> if you google problems, you usually get result of arch linux site
[09:21] <valorie> well, good luck with that
[09:21] <valorie> people like their own format best
[09:21] <valorie> they have their own histories using them, etc.
[09:22] <valorie> as for sources -- if you choose KDE, you have all the KDE software sources available to you
[09:22] <valorie> no matter what distro you use
[09:22] <valorie> one can always build from source
[09:22] <valorie> if there is no package
[09:23] <jarkko_> have there been any talk about adding some FAQ on linux install?
[09:23] <valorie> again, not sure what you mean?
[09:24] <valorie> we have docs which explain how to install
[09:24] <valorie> with screenshots
[09:24] <jarkko_> but after install
[09:24] <valorie> we're open to adding more to our docs if we're lacking necessary information
[09:25] <jarkko_> where could i see some?
[09:25] <valorie> please visit the wiki and check out what we have for Trusty: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[09:25] <valorie> docs.kubuntu.org are the docs for saucy
[09:36] <jarkko_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shared-mime-info/+bug/289592
[09:38] <valorie> heh
[09:38] <valorie> odd that it was filed in launchpad, yeah
[09:38] <valorie> should be in bko
[09:43] <valorie> AND: 
[09:43] <valorie> chud (richud.com) wrote on 2012-04-29:	 #27
[09:43] <jarkko_> seems harmless bug but would like to get ridd of it
[09:43] <valorie> actually you can fix it simply by doing
[09:43] <valorie> $ sudo rm /usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml
[09:43] <valorie> $ sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
[09:43] <valorie> there is the solution
[09:43] <jarkko_> i saw
[09:43] <jarkko_> but it should be fixed on installs
[09:43] <jarkko_> what ever the reason is
[09:44] <valorie> this is not a problem for kubuntu to fix; it must be a patch up to KDE
[09:44] <valorie> if this is important to you, please do that
[09:45] <valorie> I do appreciate you looking it up
[09:45] <valorie> it was interesting reading
[09:46] <jarkko_> what is this kde.xml?
[09:52] <valorie> if you want to read it, either load it into kate, or just `cat /usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml`
[09:52] <jarkko_> i opened it on nano
[09:56] <valorie> sure
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:41] <soee> what would be the command to switch login manager ?
[13:42] <soee> if i have both lightdm and kdm ?
[14:29] <21WAB6ABD> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 770: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!
[14:29] <21WAB6ABD> what that means?
[14:40] <yofel> soee: dpkg-reconfigure kdm (or lightdm) would do it
[14:41] <soee> yofel: yes, wanted to test lightd again if works but sadly no, so im on kdm again
[14:41] <soee> *lightdm
[16:54] <manchicken> Review board is crazy slow.
[17:41] <manchicken> Does anybody know the process of getting out of disabled-developers on KDE?
[23:59] <Riddell> http://richg42.blogspot.de/2014/01/vogl-opengl-tracerdebugger-bonus-content.html  valve debugger developed on kubuntu
[23:59] <Riddell> nice kubuntu wire post to be had out of that one