| cprofitt | by the way hggdh - congrats on the IRC council | 00:07 |
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| hggdh | cprofitt: thank you, sir | 00:35 |
| ubottu | StevenK called the ops in #ubuntu-devel () | 04:48 |
| paddy | so, elky & rww: is that what you guys wanted to achieve, by opping rww on the offtopic channel so he can kick me without any reason? | 04:57 |
| paddy | i would call this a break of the code of conduct | 04:57 |
| rww | @btlogin | 04:57 |
| * paddy sets the timer to 5 more minutes | 04:59 | |
| IdleOne | paddy: he also kicked another user and elky | 05:00 |
| paddy | to cover what he was aiming for, yes | 05:00 |
| IdleOne | I'm fairly certain it was all meant to be funny | 05:00 |
| paddy | no | 05:00 |
| IdleOne | but I see where you are coming from | 05:01 |
| paddy | not according to what he said on #ubuntu-devel | 05:01 |
| paddy | no. | 05:01 |
| rww | out of interest, which bit of what I said? | 05:01 |
| rww | sorry for appearing, btw. my ears were burning. left-over superpower from when i staffed :( | 05:01 |
| paddy | your self fullfilling prophecy has become real | 05:01 |
| paddy | you figured out how you can trigger me so i escalate situations | 05:02 |
| paddy | and you are all proud of it | 05:02 |
| paddy | i am sure to elky this kind of male attitude is super sexy | 05:02 |
| paddy | but this is not about having fun on my costs | 05:02 |
| paddy | this fun ends here | 05:02 |
| rww | !o4o =~ s/war,/war, fun,/ | 05:03 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that rww | 05:03 |
| rww | There, all sorted. Anything else we can help you with today? | 05:03 |
| paddy | rww: yes | 05:04 |
| paddy | rww: pack your bag. grab your elkynatious bride and your few friends and make a new channel so you can leave #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:04 |
| paddy | #ubuntu-offtopic is a community channel | 05:05 |
| paddy | rww: otherwise, i will find people who stress you the way you stress me | 05:06 |
| rww | I strongly recommend that you petition the IRC Council to permaban me, elky, and my few friends from #ubuntu-offtopic. It is the fastest way to achieve this goal :) | 05:06 |
| IdleOne | alrighty then. we done here? | 05:07 |
| rww | Unfortunately, though, I am unable to do it myself without elky giving me ops again, which she can't do because we banned fun from #ubuntu-offtopic at your request. | 05:07 |
| rww | Sorry about that. | 05:07 |
| paddy | IdleOne: we are not done | 05:08 |
| paddy | i repeat: | 05:08 |
| paddy | rww: pack your bag. grab your elkynatious bride and your few friends and make a new channel so you can leave #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:08 |
| IdleOne | So. Here is how I see it. paddy is upset because elky gave rww ops and rww kicked paddy. | 05:09 |
| paddy | i cant re-join #ubuntu-offtopic until rww and his folks leave | 05:09 |
| IdleOne | Am I right so far? | 05:09 |
| paddy | no | 05:09 |
| paddy | i am 2 steps ahead | 05:09 |
| IdleOne | right, well I'm trying to catch up. please humor me | 05:09 |
| paddy | the conclusion is that the channel is not run as community channel at the moment. this is not acceptable | 05:10 |
| IdleOne | according to? | 05:10 |
| paddy | as per example of today. other examples are that new users are labeled as trolls and then treated bad, etc. | 05:10 |
| IdleOne | you will agree that your personal track record in #ubuntu* is not the most stellar? | 05:11 |
| paddy | says who? | 05:11 |
| IdleOne | says me | 05:11 |
| paddy | how would you know for sure? | 05:11 |
| IdleOne | after looking at our ban tracker | 05:11 |
| paddy | digging up shit that is how many years old now? | 05:12 |
| IdleOne | problem with shit is that it never really goes away | 05:12 |
| paddy | there was 1 ban situation in the near past | 05:12 |
| paddy | thats it | 05:12 |
| paddy | it never goes away because people want it to be remembered | 05:12 |
| paddy | and i know who these people are | 05:12 |
| IdleOne | you make it so they can't forget | 05:13 |
| phunyguy | (this is a good example.) | 05:13 |
| paddy | there is no way of doing that, because of people like elky | 05:13 |
| paddy | people who are not worth the piece of paper where they signed the code of conduct | 05:14 |
| IdleOne | people like elky is why this community is as functional as it is (dysfunctional as it may still be) | 05:14 |
| paddy | i never saw any work of elky only bloggings | 05:14 |
| paddy | hot air | 05:14 |
| paddy | but thats side tracking the problem now | 05:15 |
| IdleOne | what she writes about in her personal time does not concern me. | 05:15 |
| IdleOne | what concerns me right now is what exactly your complaint is? | 05:15 |
| paddy | the point is that a small group of individuals controls #ubuntu-offtopic aside from situations where somebody is offending | 05:16 |
| IdleOne | how do you propose we fix this? | 05:16 |
| paddy | they actively provoke people to behave in an emotions driven way | 05:16 |
| IdleOne | So, you are saying it is their fault you bahve badly? | 05:17 |
| paddy | remove channel access from certain people | 05:17 |
| paddy | i am not saying its their fault but they provoked it willingly | 05:17 |
| IdleOne | ok, who do you think we should remove access for? | 05:18 |
| paddy | e.g. if somebody gives operator priviledges to another user who is not in the access list | 05:19 |
| paddy | rww is not even an ubuntu member | 05:19 |
| paddy | how would he be a representative for the community? | 05:19 |
| rww | I should probably stick to representing Ubuntu offline, where I'm a leader of a LoCo, huh. | 05:20 |
| IdleOne | Do you think that our ops lack the ability to judge who can be trusted to not harm the channel or its users to badly? I mean it was just a kick, not the end of the world really. | 05:20 |
| paddy | rww: that means you signed the code of conduct? | 05:20 |
| rww | paddy: yep | 05:21 |
| IdleOne | rww's status in the ubuntu community is not at question. | 05:21 |
| paddy | rww: and then you are trolling me so i turn into a troll so you can call me as that? | 05:21 |
| IdleOne | lets focus on the issue | 05:21 |
| paddy | read that fucking piece of paper again | 05:21 |
| IdleOne | paddy: Please don't curse | 05:21 |
| paddy | ok | 05:22 |
| paddy | here is the deal | 05:22 |
| paddy | somebody from the channel management comes to me and says something like "paddy, we dont like you there. have a nice day" then i take this to my logs and we are done | 05:23 |
| IdleOne | by channel management you mean someone from the IRCC? | 05:24 |
| paddy | somebody who is not just a mode pussy like elky | 05:24 |
| IdleOne | alright | 05:24 |
| IdleOne | paddy: I am on the Ubuntu IRC council. You are not welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic any longer. You are also now being advised to not disrupt any other Ubuntu IRC channels or you won't be welcome there either. | 05:25 |
| paddy | alright | 05:26 |
| IdleOne | Thank you for bringing your concerns to us about our channel ops. | 05:26 |
| paddy | thank you and have a nice time | 05:26 |
| IdleOne | Same to you. | 05:26 |
| IdleOne | !o4o =~ s/war, fun,/war,/ | 05:32 |
| ubottu | Nothing changed there | 05:32 |
| rww | IdleOne: I'm not /that/ obnoxious. | 05:32 |
| IdleOne | changed it back? | 05:32 |
| rww | yep | 05:32 |
| IdleOne | yes you are | 05:32 |
| IdleOne | but that is part of your charm | 05:32 |
| rww | and that's why you're chomping at the bit to give me back #ubuntu-offtopic ops | 05:32 |
| elky | at least then i can evade the flack | 05:33 |
| rww | elky: except not, because everything one of us does is the other one's fault from now on | 05:33 |
| IdleOne | I don't know about that. just recently (look up ^) received a complaint about you abusing ops | 05:33 |
| rww | that is the burden I must bear | 05:33 |
| elky | lol | 05:34 |
| rww | IdleOne: I only abuse ops that want to be abused, thanks. | 05:34 |
| IdleOne | sounds legit | 05:34 |
| IdleOne | why can't you be a good op and pick on phunyguy or something | 05:35 |
| phunyguy | :( | 05:38 |
| IdleOne | shaddap! you love it. | 05:38 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, phunyguy said: !unforget etiquette | 06:13 |
| phunyguy | tattle. | 06:14 |
| Myrtti | anyone up for a winter cleaning? | 13:31 |
| Tubby | Good Morning homies | 15:48 |
| Tubby | you betrayed me ikonia | 15:53 |
| Tubby | i thought we were family | 15:53 |
| Tubby | nooooooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 15:53 |
| IdleOne | :/ | 15:54 |
| IdleOne | Good morning | 15:54 |
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