| Kilos | morning peeps | 05:20 |
|---|---|---|
| somaunn | Hello Dear | 06:39 |
| Kilos | hi somaunn | 06:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:39 |
| somaunn | Kilos: thanks yesterday you left so early | 06:39 |
| Kilos | i go to bed around 9pm everynight somaunn i'm old | 06:40 |
| somaunn | hehe | 06:41 |
| somaunn | tell me please who is Maaz | 06:41 |
| somaunn | is he a bot or ?????...... | 06:41 |
| Kilos | the bot here on the channel | 06:42 |
| Kilos | records our meetings and does other stuff | 06:42 |
| somaunn | cool | 06:42 |
| Kilos | Maaz, help | 06:42 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. | 06:42 |
| Maaz | Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. | 06:42 |
| somaunn | he look so hume | 06:42 |
| somaunn | he look so human | 06:42 |
| Kilos | pm it and go through what it can do | 06:42 |
| Kilos | yeah written in python by some of our guys, cocooncrash and tumbleweed in the forefront | 06:43 |
| somaunn | Kilos: cool | 06:46 |
| Kilos | yeah | 06:46 |
| Kilos | also it is in the ubuntu repos so can be installed on personal servers and your own pc | 06:47 |
| Kilos | i have 2 running on my channel as well on different hosts ##kilos | 06:48 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:48 |
| somaunn | Kilos: have you eared of Obsidian.co.za ? | 06:51 |
| Kilos | nope im not clued up on pc stuff and the internet | 06:52 |
| somaunn | Maaz: find obsidian | 06:52 |
| Maaz | somaunn: Huh? | 06:52 |
| Kilos | mobile broadband limits the amount of browsing one can do | 06:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google obsidian | 06:53 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Obsidian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian :: "Obsidian Entertainment" http://www.obsidian.net/ :: "Obsidian - Minecraft Wiki" http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Obsidian :: "Obsidian: Igneous Rock - Pictures, Uses, Properties - Geology.com" http://geology.com/rocks/obsidian.shtml :: "Obsidian" | 06:53 |
| Maaz | http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education/facts/obsidian.html :: "Amazon.com: Obsidian (A Lux Novel) eBook: Jennifer … | 06:53 |
| Kilos | ah i looked at the site somaunn | 06:54 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx | 06:55 |
| Golynx | Hi Kilos | 06:55 |
| Golynx | I cant get this damn permissions thing to work grrr | 06:56 |
| Kilos | permissions where Golynx ? | 06:57 |
| Golynx | Tried 15 sites already none of their commands works | 06:57 |
| Kilos | what are you trying to get admin rights to? | 06:58 |
| Golynx | Permissions for my scripts to create folders and write to files | 06:58 |
| Kilos | on your own pc? | 06:58 |
| Golynx | Yes | 06:59 |
| Kilos | try running the tool you are using with sudo | 06:59 |
| Golynx | I need it , if it dont work in php it wont work in any other language either | 06:59 |
| Kilos | i dont know how those things work | 07:00 |
| Kilos | but you must be able to get permissions on everything in your own pc | 07:00 |
| Golynx | I already got root to read/write the web folder | 07:01 |
| Kilos | so what is blocking you then | 07:01 |
| Kilos | what commands have you tried | 07:02 |
| Golynx | When my script creates a new file it spits out permission denied | 07:02 |
| Kilos | you gotta be careful using some commands | 07:02 |
| Golynx | Why do my root username appear twice when i type "users" in terminal | 07:03 |
| Kilos | you must have added a user somehow | 07:03 |
| Kilos | oh mine shows 3 times | 07:04 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:04 |
| Golynx | Nope only user i added was another one but different name | 07:04 |
| Golynx | hmm | 07:04 |
| Kilos | ask that question tonight when the guys are back from shopping and other saterday stuff | 07:04 |
| Golynx | Anyway i will try some more | 07:04 |
| Kilos | tell me where is this script you have written | 07:05 |
| Kilos | you gonna battle to let root allow strange scripts in | 07:05 |
| Golynx | In a custom directory in my /home/user/ folder | 07:06 |
| Kilos | you can get full control of that folder using chown | 07:06 |
| Kilos | is it that folder itself thats blocking you? | 07:07 |
| Golynx | already used chown to set my root username as owner there | 07:07 |
| Kilos | what chown command did you use | 07:07 |
| Golynx | Nope every script executes perfectly, except when it has to create folders and files | 07:08 |
| Kilos | chown is very powerful and you can break things if used incorrectly | 07:08 |
| Kilos | oh the script needs to be able to create folders and files | 07:08 |
| Golynx | Yes | 07:09 |
| Kilos | must be then something needed in the script to give it permission | 07:10 |
| Kilos | im just guessing here. i know nothing about those things | 07:10 |
| Kilos | have you looked at vim | 07:10 |
| Kilos | using vim allows scripts to run i think | 07:11 |
| Golynx | I dont wana give apache server full root powers though, but looks like i have to | 07:11 |
| Kilos | i started learning it but too much to remember unless used daily | 07:11 |
| Golynx | never used vim | 07:11 |
| Kilos | its a bash tool i think | 07:12 |
| Kilos | there were more, ask mage when he comes | 07:12 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google using vim on 12.04 | 07:13 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Updating vim 7.3.429 to 7.3.885 on Ubuntu 12.04 - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/321931/updating-vim-7-3-429-to-7-3-885-on-ubuntu-12-04 :: "Coloured view in vim editor not working in ubuntu 12.04 - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/298747/coloured-view-in-vim-editor-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04 :: "Installing and Using the Vim Text | 07:13 |
| Maaz | Editor on a Cloud Server ..." https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/installing-and-u… | 07:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:13 |
| Kilos | learn python man | 07:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google byteofpython | 07:14 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "A Byte of Python - Swaroop CH" http://swaroopch.com/notes/python/ :: "A Byte of Python - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/read/ :: "A Byte of Python (PDF) - Ibiblio" http://www.ibiblio.org/swaroopch/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf :: "A Byte of Python" http://www.byteofpython.info/ :: "Free PDF: A Byte of Python by Swaroop C | 07:14 |
| Maaz | H" http://freepdfs.org/pdf/a-byte-of-python :: "A Byte of Python in German" http://abop-ge… | 07:14 |
| Golynx | I cant waste more data on google trying to fix this issue ai | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:14 |
| Golynx | I already know about python, for 3 years now been making a few programs with it and some games with pygame | 07:15 |
| Kilos | then just wait here till one of the clever guys has time to help | 07:15 |
| Kilos | aha | 07:15 |
| Golynx | Hav'nt done web development with it though | 07:15 |
| Kilos | that might be the answer though. the fly tells everyone to use python | 07:16 |
| Golynx | I will have the same permissions issue on python aswell | 07:16 |
| Kilos | and there are some python experts in this channel but they cant chat all day like me | 07:17 |
| Kilos | the experts will tell you how to fix the permissions thing | 07:17 |
| Kilos | thats all beyong my knowledge | 07:18 |
| Kilos | beyond | 07:18 |
| Golynx | Its ok i will keep trying | 07:18 |
| Kilos | lets see | 07:18 |
| Kilos | georgl, you here? | 07:18 |
| Golynx | You got a beautiful daughter Kilos, she got your cheaks :) | 07:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:29 |
| Kilos | you can chown that one folder only so you got permission | 07:30 |
| Kilos | but only that one thats blocking you | 07:30 |
| Kilos | dont fiddle near root | 07:30 |
| Kilos | there is actually a command to see the rw permissions | 07:31 |
| Golynx | I dunno how to use Is -l | 07:31 |
| Kilos | but to get the user permissions there | 07:32 |
| Kilos | ls -l maybe | 07:32 |
| Kilos | lemme try | 07:32 |
| Kilos | ya that shows lots | 07:32 |
| Kilos | is it just that one folder blocking you? | 07:33 |
| Golynx | Apache uses the group www-data , but when i type "groups" in terminal www-data is not listed in there | 07:33 |
| Kilos | apache is blocking you? | 07:33 |
| Golynx | Yes | 07:33 |
| Kilos | yes to which question? | 07:34 |
| Golynx | Yes only in the www folder apache uses | 07:34 |
| Kilos | then chown only that folder | 07:35 |
| Golynx | Other scripts in its subdirectory also wont create new files | 07:35 |
| Kilos | sudo chown user:user path to folder | 07:35 |
| Golynx | I did already, ai lemme try again | 07:36 |
| Kilos | to make chown more powerful add -R | 07:36 |
| Kilos | sudo chown -R user:user path to folder | 07:37 |
| Golynx | ok | 07:37 |
| Golynx | Scripts still wont give permission | 07:38 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:38 |
| Kilos | wait for an expert | 07:38 |
| Golynx | How do i add my username to the group www-data | 07:38 |
| Kilos | maybe thats it but i dunno | 07:39 |
| Kilos | where is this www-data | 07:39 |
| Golynx | I got another user there i created yesterday, but dont think its got permissions to do anything | 07:39 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:40 |
| Golynx | www-data is apache servers group | 07:40 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:40 |
| Golynx | I have to remove that user, its showing up at my boot login | 07:41 |
| Kilos | i would tell you wrong things to do as this is out of my depth | 07:41 |
| Golynx | Its ok thanks Kilos | 07:41 |
| Kilos | wbb | 09:00 |
| Golynx | wb Kilos | 09:08 |
| Kilos | ty | 09:09 |
| Golynx | np | 09:09 |
| Kilos | back fiddling withn the 2TB | 09:10 |
| Golynx | Aah hope for success this time round | 09:11 |
| Kilos | haha major work making unused areas to not use bad sectors | 09:13 |
| Golynx | That sounds tough | 09:15 |
| Kilos | yeah and stupid xp thats on there wants an admin password i didnt give it | 09:16 |
| Kilos | grrr | 09:16 |
| georgl | Kilos: | 09:16 |
| Kilos | trying to run recovery after changing parts | 09:17 |
| Kilos | ohi georgl | 09:17 |
| georgl | morning | 09:17 |
| georgl | you looking for me | 09:17 |
| Kilos | do you know how to get permissions with apache stuff | 09:17 |
| Kilos | Golynx, battling | 09:17 |
| georgl | have not done that for a while | 09:18 |
| georgl | what do you want to do? | 09:18 |
| Golynx | Hi georgl | 09:19 |
| georgl | hi | 09:19 |
| Golynx | I cant seem to get php to create new files and folders permission denied everytime | 09:19 |
| Golynx | I tried lots of ways already | 09:20 |
| Golynx | Windows i did'nt had this headache | 09:20 |
| Kilos | he is new to buntu georgl | 09:20 |
| georgl | are you creating the new file | 09:21 |
| georgl | in the apached dir? | 09:21 |
| georgl | maybe i should ask the following? | 09:22 |
| georgl | where are you storing the php files? | 09:22 |
| Golynx | I my web server root at /home/username/www , its already got www-data and my user as full write and read access | 09:22 |
| georgl | ok | 09:22 |
| georgl | what is the permissions for that directory? | 09:23 |
| Golynx | drwxr-xr-x 47 username www-data 4096 Jan 14 17:48 /home/username/www/ | 09:23 |
| georgl | and you are trying to create a php file? | 09:24 |
| Golynx | Yes and other text file types plus folders with php script | 09:24 |
| georgl | what is the message you get when you are trying to save it? | 09:25 |
| Golynx | [Sat Jan 18 10:59:19 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Warning: fopen(thetest.txt) [<a href='function.fopen'>function.fopen</a>]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/username/www/1test/fberry.php on line 3 | 09:26 |
| georgl | pastebin the script you have created please? | 09:27 |
| Golynx | Plus other scripts in other directories, but always the same permission denied error | 09:28 |
| Golynx | Its not just the one file create script, when i try create zip file aswell it gives the same error | 09:29 |
| Golynx | That scripts work on other servers and worked perfect on windows aswell. I just cant get the apache configuration right on linux | 09:30 |
| Golynx | http://pastebin.com/hCG80zgE | 09:32 |
| georgl | open up a terminal | 09:35 |
| Golynx | The other zip script http://pastebin.com/vg24XK5S | 09:35 |
| georgl | goto the dir where the script is installed | 09:35 |
| Golynx | Ok | 09:36 |
| georgl | run it php cli and see if it workd | 09:36 |
| georgl | run it with php cli and see if it workd | 09:36 |
| Golynx | How do i do that nevr used cli with php | 09:37 |
| georgl | php <filename.php> | 09:38 |
| Golynx | It works :) thetest.txt was created | 09:39 |
| Kilos | oyay ty georgl sorry to bother you | 09:40 |
| Golynx | Why wont it work from the browser though , where i need it to work | 09:41 |
| Kilos | see Golynx just need to learn the different way of doing things | 09:41 |
| georgl | create a file in the dir with name of phpinfo.php and paste http://slexy.org/view/s20SP0grEC into it | 09:42 |
| georgl | browse to the file and see what it tells you? | 09:42 |
| Golynx | I already got a info.php in my web root georgl , i dunno where to look though so much there | 09:44 |
| georgl | pastebin it | 09:44 |
| Golynx | ok | 09:45 |
| Golynx | I just copied and pasted it http://pastebin.com/pPbQJhV5 | 09:47 |
| Kilos | slexy.org is faster and lighter than pastebin | 09:49 |
| georgl | how did you do the apache and php installation? | 09:50 |
| Golynx | From Synaptics package manager | 09:51 |
| Kilos | synaptic | 09:53 |
| Golynx | I dont see mod_rewrite there in info.php though | 09:53 |
| Golynx | and apache.conf does'nt give ability to enable and disable modules . I used to be able to do that on windows | 09:54 |
| georgl | i suggest you look at apache documentation for that | 09:55 |
| Golynx | I will try do that | 09:56 |
| georgl | Golynx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP | 09:58 |
| georgl | take a look at that | 09:58 |
| Golynx | Ty georgl i will have a look and try figure out how to fix this issue | 10:01 |
| georgl | good luck | 10:10 |
| Golynx | ty georgl, will keep at it till its fixed :) | 10:11 |
| * Golynx gave up on apache,php,mysql . Removed it and will try again next month. | 12:08 | |
| Golynx | Kilos does your opera resize the window ? Mine stays at max i cant resize it | 12:17 |
| Golynx | Have to be able to resize it, cause i do my mobile web apps that way | 12:18 |
| Golynx | Kilos does your opera resize the window ? Mine stays at max i cant resize it | 13:03 |
| Kilos | ok lemme look | 13:03 |
| Kilos | i didnt see i was offline but told you i use opera on its own workspace then you dont need to worry about resizing | 13:04 |
| Kilos | um | 13:04 |
| Golynx | I have to be able to resize it, cause i do my mobile web apps that way | 13:05 |
| Kilos | click the resize then go to top right corner and if it shows arrows drag it smaller | 13:05 |
| Kilos | if no arrows click resize again and then drag smalle | 13:05 |
| Golynx | There is no resize button and now resize hover icon on the edge | 13:06 |
| Golynx | no* | 13:06 |
| Kilos | left top | 13:11 |
| Kilos | on the top blach panel hidden | 13:12 |
| Kilos | hover over it | 13:12 |
| Golynx | Ubuntu crashed | 13:18 |
| Golynx | I tried resizing the window then everything froze , had to reboot | 13:19 |
| Golynx | Now it works :/ | 13:20 |
| Kilos | resing how? | 13:22 |
| Kilos | im sure half your probs will disappear one you have done a proper upgrade Golynx | 13:22 |
| Golynx | Top left corner ubuntu window , minimize maximize | 13:22 |
| Kilos | ya thats the way | 13:23 |
| Kilos | i also battled in the beginning with it hiding in the top panel | 13:23 |
| Kilos | drove me nuts | 13:23 |
| Golynx | We did that and it said nothing to upgrade | 13:23 |
| Kilos | made me hate unity to start with | 13:23 |
| Kilos | you have security unticked man | 13:23 |
| Kilos | how can it see stuff iff you closed the door | 13:24 |
| Kilos | you said next week | 13:24 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 13:24 |
| Golynx | Next month i said, will have to scrape along till then | 13:25 |
| Kilos | ive just done a clean install on a 160g drive but will upgrade after 11pm if i can stay awake | 13:25 |
| Kilos | ai! i wasted too much as well getting an iso upgraded | 13:25 |
| Golynx | Aah my size drive, its weekend you can stay up lol | 13:26 |
| Kilos | you will see after a proper upgrade how much better everything works | 13:26 |
| Kilos | every day is weekend for me | 13:26 |
| Kilos | same thing everyday . sheep fowls weeds pc | 13:27 |
| Golynx | I guess so | 13:27 |
| Kilos | and im 62 | 13:27 |
| Kilos | and been dead | 13:27 |
| Kilos | got rebooted in icu | 13:27 |
| Kilos | anyway now your resize works | 13:28 |
| Golynx | Glad your still with us Kilos,. Keep on being active and healthy you will live longer than me | 13:29 |
| Golynx | Ya im glad now i can do my html5 :) | 13:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:30 |
| Kilos | see everything os sortable on ubuntu | 13:30 |
| Kilos | you just need patience and dont think windows style | 13:30 |
| Golynx | Ya thats true , but i always forget lol | 13:31 |
| Golynx | Will take some time getting used to | 13:31 |
| Symmetria | sup :) | 13:32 |
| * Symmetria is happy :) | 13:32 | |
| Kilos | yeah it does. | 13:32 |
| Kilos | hi Symmetria | 13:32 |
| Symmetria | my employer just showed up at my house with my new toy | 13:32 |
| Symmetria | http://www.alstonnetworks.net/car/car.jpg | 13:32 |
| Kilos | what you scored now | 13:32 |
| Symmetria | lol my company car finally arrived ;p | 13:33 |
| Kilos | give that link for your screen pc setup there | 13:33 |
| Kilos | nice | 13:33 |
| Symmetria | http://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/screens.jpg | 13:33 |
| Symmetria | that one? | 13:33 |
| Golynx | hi Symmetria | 13:33 |
| Kilos | and tell Golynx what that pc cost | 13:34 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry_ | 13:34 |
| Symmetria | lol in total with the screens, graphics cards driving it, ram, cpu, drive space and everything? | 13:34 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:34 |
| Symmetria | I'd have to work it out but close to 100 grand | 13:34 |
| Kilos | not all the 3tb drives | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | the video cards are about 10 grand each and there are 3 of them | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | the screens are 7k each and there are 4 of them | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | so thats 58 grand alone | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | then about 40 grand for the rest of the machine | 13:35 |
| Kilos | where do they all plug in? | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | heh kilos machine has 4 PCI-E slots | 13:35 |
| Kilos | wow | 13:35 |
| Kilos | what mobo is that | 13:35 |
| Symmetria | thats a gigabyte UD series, its an x79 socket 2011 | 13:36 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:36 |
| Symmetria | with an ivy-e bridge 3960K cpu | 13:36 |
| Kilos | gigabyte stuff works well when they work but once they start niggling whew | 13:37 |
| Golynx | Symmetria thats some awesome setup you got wow | 13:37 |
| Symmetria | kilos I wanna get an asus board, they have an asus rampage iv | 13:38 |
| Symmetria | which is awesome sauce | 13:38 |
| Symmetria | but the board alone is 5 grand | 13:38 |
| Kilos | whew | 13:39 |
| Kilos | you havent got time to get married. put me in your will for the pc stuff | 13:40 |
| Golynx | Looks like a space ship cockpit lol. i love it :) | 13:43 |
| Kilos | haha | 13:44 |
| Golynx | If i can get more serious about web development i will be able to have something similar setup as Symmetria, in about 3 - 5 years time | 13:46 |
| Golynx | ai crashed again | 13:51 |
| Kilos | run sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot | 13:51 |
| Golynx | ok | 13:52 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 14:10 |
| Kilos | whew that killed the lynx | 14:10 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 14:11 |
| Golynx | ai modem failed 2 times | 14:12 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:12 |
| Golynx | Thats just a quick check though | 14:13 |
| Kilos | mine has crashed a couple of times today. need to untick enable networking then enable again then connect | 14:14 |
| Golynx | ok ,i'm glad it works most of the time | 14:16 |
| Kilos | proves that when you get a good one hang on to it | 14:17 |
| Golynx | thats true, mine gets a bit hot after a few hours, hopefully wont break | 14:18 |
| Kilos | they all do | 14:18 |
| Kilos | but dont all disconnect at random | 14:18 |
| Golynx | Aah thats good | 14:18 |
| magespawn | later all | 14:28 |
| Kilos | ai! i didnt even see him here | 14:29 |
| Kilos | hi liamT | 14:29 |
| liamT | greetings | 14:29 |
| Golynx | Hi liamT | 14:30 |
| liamT | greetings again | 14:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:31 |
| Golynx | magespawn came in earlier | 14:31 |
| Kilos | i musta been offline at the time | 14:32 |
| Golynx | Ya i think you were | 14:32 |
| liamT | anyone using Flask on Apache ? | 14:38 |
| Kilos | liamT, min peeps here now, ask again tonight | 14:41 |
| Golynx | I use apache , but never used the mod_wsgi module though | 14:42 |
| liamT | ok, still you might be able to answer this | 14:43 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:44 |
| Golynx | I'm not sure, hardly use cli | 14:44 |
| liamT | I have this application running under Apache, with the mod-wsgi module, and i want to serve it on port 80 | 14:45 |
| liamT | so I set up a virtualhost containing all the various wsgi information | 14:45 |
| liamT | but I cannot see the app unless I change the port, the app apache settings are being overridden for lack of a better description | 14:46 |
| liamT | anything I should consider ? | 14:46 |
| Golynx | Are you using python | 14:48 |
| liamT | yes, Flask is a python microframework, like a slimmed down Django | 14:50 |
| charl | good afternoon | 14:53 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 14:53 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 14:53 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 14:53 |
| charl | hi Kilos, liamT, Golynx | 14:53 |
| Golynx | I only kno about php in apache though, never tried using django or python web framework before. This may help though http://www.lonesomedev.com/?p=169 | 14:54 |
| Golynx | Hi charl | 14:54 |
| Golynx | or like Kilos said there are many here experienced with python web frameworks so they may help more than i can | 14:56 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 14:57 |
| charl | Maaz: thank you | 15:00 |
| Maaz | charl: Sure | 15:00 |
| charl | oh yeah i recall i did some projects in flask | 15:01 |
| charl | wasn't that related to the werkzeug project? | 15:01 |
| Golynx | liamT may know about that charl, i never heard of that | 15:04 |
| charl | oh sorry i only see the ping timeout now | 15:07 |
| Golynx | np | 15:08 |
| Kilos | wb liamT | 15:09 |
| liamT | blerry connection | 15:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:42 |
| Golynx | I struggle getting php to work right in ubuntu aswell. Mostly the various permission though | 15:42 |
| Golynx | I will try this aswell when i set up django in a few moths http://www.lonesomedev.com/?p=169 | 15:44 |
| Golynx | months* | 15:44 |
| Kilos | ohi Mzolisto are you actually here or still just lurking | 15:54 |
| Kilos | wbb | 16:00 |
| liamT | taa | 16:53 |
| Kilos | did you get some help liamT ? | 16:55 |
| liamT | thanking Golynx | 16:57 |
| liamT | think I will have to map to /etc/hosts. So instead of serving to 127.0.0.1/ap1 i'll use ap1.localhost or similar | 16:57 |
| liamT | i think it's the servername I'm specifying incorrectly. I want 127.0.0.1/app name, but then what ServerName do I use ? the various permutations I've tried seem to make no difference | 16:59 |
| liamT | you all have a good evening | 16:59 |
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| Squirm | hi | 17:09 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 17:09 |
| Private_User | evening all :) | 17:43 |
| psydroid | evening Private_User :) | 17:43 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User psydroid | 17:43 |
| Private_User | good evening psydroid and Kilos | 17:44 |
| Private_User | hey anybody heard of or used Zorin OS? I see its based on Ubuntu. It made me think what does that mean when they say its based on Ubuntu cause I see many flavours of Linux based on Ubuntu but what exactly does that mean? | 17:48 |
| Kilos | i think its mainly the gui thats different | 17:48 |
| Kilos | like lubuntu and xubuntu | 17:49 |
| Private_User | mmm... ok but why not just call it ubuntu | 17:51 |
| Kilos | i might be wrong it might be a fork that kept gnome2 | 17:52 |
| Kilos | Squirm, ? | 17:52 |
| Kilos | he will know | 17:52 |
| Private_User | cause I was thinking of suggesting that OS for maybe my family since they are windows users and according to what I read on the net it is designed for new comers from windows to linux | 17:55 |
| Private_User | but I was still wondering what exactly does based on Ubuntu mean | 17:55 |
| Kilos | im not sure Private_User if you have uncapped get and try it | 17:56 |
| Kilos | just be careful it isnt as complete as ubuntu is | 17:56 |
| Kilos | might need more serious geek work | 17:56 |
| Private_User | could we then create our own flavour of Linux maybe call it ZA-Ubuntu created by the ZA peeps ;) | 17:57 |
| Kilos | but you wont know till you have tried it | 17:57 |
| Private_User | yeah but its not only that I have seen other flavours as well based on Ubuntu | 17:57 |
| Private_User | so was just curious | 17:57 |
| Kilos | yeah i think its all free open source but calling it ubuntu anything might have some leagal stuff to get past | 17:58 |
| Kilos | there was someone here a while back said is was lekker but i dont remember who | 17:58 |
| Private_User | ok, I guess when I get really bored, cannot sleep and have nothing do I will use my midnight data to browse the net and find out exactly what it means when they say one distro is based on another | 18:00 |
| Private_User | maybe even see what it takes to create ones own distro as well | 18:01 |
| Kilos | oh you also mobile broadband | 18:01 |
| Private_User | yep using 3G | 18:02 |
| Kilos | it will be a big job i think. takes lotsa work from a large group of guys | 18:02 |
| Kilos | big restrictions 3g | 18:02 |
| Kilos | unless you are rich | 18:03 |
| Private_User | yep and nope not rich | 18:03 |
| Private_User | lol | 18:03 |
| Kilos | same here i force myself to stay up to upgrade on night surfer | 18:03 |
| Kilos | normally bed time at 9pm | 18:04 |
| Kilos | meeting 28th hey | 18:04 |
| Kilos | please be here | 18:04 |
| Kilos | we gonna discuss the internet in za | 18:04 |
| Private_User | lekker, cool will do that what time? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | 8.30 pm | 18:05 |
| Private_User | I might need a reminder closer to the time | 18:05 |
| Kilos | do you tweet? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | i normally leave a tweet reminder and on the lists | 18:05 |
| Kilos | oh and inetpro leaves one on g+ | 18:06 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 18:10 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:11 |
| Kilos | sorry i missed you today | 18:12 |
| magespawn | no worries | 18:12 |
| magespawn | still working on the 2tb nighttmare? | 18:14 |
| Kilos | that antenna looks interesting where do the wires connect | 18:14 |
| Kilos | yes but im getting closer | 18:15 |
| Kilos | xp runs fine on it | 18:15 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 18:15 |
| Kilos | first 100m seems to be ok and then 130g bad | 18:15 |
| Kilos | so ive made that unused | 18:15 |
| Kilos | but need to do it here. other pc way too slow | 18:16 |
| Kilos | even here ubuntu takes hours to even get to the partition stage | 18:17 |
| magespawn | to the coaxial pigtail | 18:17 |
| Kilos | ya but to where actually | 18:17 |
| Kilos | one to the centre and screens to the outside? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | wont be very far coverage though | 18:18 |
| magespawn | the pigtail has a connector on it that connects to either a wireless card or a router or similar device | 18:18 |
| Golynx | Kilos is there a way to remove the disk checking when i reboot ? My videos goes blank after a while | 18:20 |
| magespawn | it is meant to be directional i think so that you can extend coverage | 18:20 |
| Kilos | yes dont run that command | 18:20 |
| Golynx | All tried vlc too, its blank, just the sound playing | 18:20 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:20 |
| Golynx | But it checks automatically | 18:20 |
| Kilos | every boot? | 18:21 |
| Golynx | yes | 18:21 |
| Kilos | not supposed to | 18:21 |
| Kilos | screen might be going blank while it runs the boot stuff | 18:21 |
| Kilos | supposed to show a boot splash or text | 18:22 |
| Kilos | yagi is the best magespawn | 18:22 |
| Kilos | we even used them for cb radio and hams use them | 18:22 |
| Golynx | It checks everything, but my video players goes black screen after a while, that sucks | 18:22 |
| Kilos | and you can buy wifi yagis | 18:23 |
| magespawn | the same guy has some interesting designs for yagi too | 18:23 |
| Kilos | vlc never gives probs on an upgraded system | 18:23 |
| Kilos | be patient till next month | 18:23 |
| magespawn | Golynx, is it not the screen saver kicking in? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | that too ya | 18:24 |
| Kilos | check in settings under power | 18:24 |
| Golynx | No magespawn, i am busy on the pc while the video plays | 18:24 |
| magespawn | ahh well | 18:24 |
| Golynx | It just goes blank , and i have to reboot to fix it | 18:25 |
| Kilos | if you werent so far id fix it for you | 18:25 |
| Kilos | go find wifi somewhere and upgrade | 18:25 |
| magespawn | does seem a bit strange | 18:25 |
| Kilos | never had hassles with vlc | 18:26 |
| Golynx | Ok nevermind, i will whack this lappy against the wall in a few months lol | 18:26 |
| magespawn | turn it into a server instead | 18:26 |
| Kilos | no man | 18:26 |
| magespawn | no need for graphics then | 18:27 |
| magespawn | not sure if the wireless works out of the box | 18:28 |
| Golynx | Just kidding , will keep on using it till it breaks :) | 18:28 |
| magespawn | i have a lappy doing time as a server | 18:29 |
| Kilos | magespawn, explain to him why security updates are important | 18:29 |
| Golynx | This lappy never gave me hardware issues at all, mostly it was me that messed up in the software side | 18:29 |
| Kilos | it will be fine man | 18:30 |
| Kilos | those updates will fix everything | 18:30 |
| Golynx | I cant use it as a server though magespawn | 18:30 |
| Golynx | No broadband or a stable location for a server setup | 18:30 |
| Golynx | We will have to see Kilos | 18:31 |
| Golynx | I stil cant 3D model with blender , eventhough the graphics drivers are now in | 18:32 |
| magespawn | Golynx, it can serve for you | 18:32 |
| Golynx | I dont understand what you mean magespawn | 18:33 |
| magespawn | just a play on words, server - serve | 18:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:34 |
| Golynx | Ok cool, i will divorce the "r" and marry the "serve" | 18:36 |
| magespawn | if you are doing web development then you could run a web server to test | 18:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:36 |
| Kilos | then he needs another pc too | 18:36 |
| magespawn | yup or you can direct your browser to localhost | 18:37 |
| Golynx | I already do that with apache | 18:37 |
| Golynx | But will wana host and run my web apps from a cloud hosting though | 18:38 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 18:38 |
| Kilos | magespawn, http://fermi.la.asu.edu/ccli/applets/yagi/yagi.html | 18:39 |
| Kilos | not on 3g Golynx | 18:39 |
| Kilos | or not till you got big bundles | 18:39 |
| Golynx | No guarentees when i run my own server , aspecially when i dont have a stable environtment to put it | 18:39 |
| Kilos | you need serious java there magespawn to get the modeller to run' | 18:40 |
| magespawn | i have been looking at cloudatcost.com | 18:40 |
| Kilos | i had to install oracle-java-installer to get it to open | 18:41 |
| magespawn | will check on monday | 18:41 |
| Golynx | For me google appengine is enough to host my apps. If i wana expand in future i can pay extra for space and bandwidth | 18:43 |
| Kilos | you still gonna sort my website one day got | 18:46 |
| Kilos | but i think it has everything needed | 18:46 |
| magespawn | for your book? | 18:46 |
| Kilos | free site but i forget where now | 18:46 |
| Kilos | yeah magespawn and maybe ill build custom pcs to sell there | 18:47 |
| Golynx | You got a website Kilos ? | 18:47 |
| magespawn | did you post the link here? | 18:47 |
| Kilos | a couple | 18:47 |
| Golynx | oh cool | 18:48 |
| Kilos | nope magespawn i havent published it yet till book is ready | 18:48 |
| Kilos | Maaz, kilos.site | 18:48 |
| Kilos | oh my | 18:48 |
| Kilos | am i offline again | 18:48 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hi | 18:49 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ping | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Kilos: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Sup Kilos | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Kilos: pong | 18:49 |
| Kilos | wow that was some lag | 18:49 |
| Kilos | my other site for the book is i dunno where | 18:50 |
| Kilos | oh ya weebly | 18:50 |
| Kilos | weebly.com i think | 18:50 |
| Kilos | https://secure.weebly.com/weebly/eclick.php?u=25099255&c=lifecycle.education.ecom&s=410362534&t=f568e28a4bdfa14bc5478db11a5683f9&r=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.weebly.com%2Fe-commerce--ads.html | 18:51 |
| Kilos | i think that goes there | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lucky they mailed me . id forgotten where it was | 18:52 |
| Golynx | Some nice sites there Kilos :) | 18:52 |
| Kilos | ty | 18:53 |
| Golynx | the weebly one is a weebly service page though | 18:54 |
| Golynx | yw | 18:54 |
| Kilos | oh then ill have to find my link but its not publish till ive got something to sell | 18:54 |
| Kilos | if i go there i think my browser remembers password and stuff | 18:55 |
| Kilos | but weebly.com offered frewe sites | 18:55 |
| Golynx | thats cool, there should be alot of people around the world looking for refurbished old pc's | 18:56 |
| Golynx | Just gotta make your site look great | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ill do new ones and refurbished and custom builds fo different orders | 18:56 |
| Kilos | gamers too | 18:56 |
| Kilos | maybe even sell windows cds if i can get permission' | 18:57 |
| Kilos | i dunno how that works | 18:57 |
| Kilos | surely one must supply a win7 dvd with a pc? | 18:57 |
| Golynx | Awesome , aslong as you know ther is a market for it | 18:57 |
| Kilos | i will do them on order only | 18:58 |
| Kilos | and they can deposit the cash direct to my supplier | 18:58 |
| Golynx | I dunno , it kinda sound like software piracy | 18:58 |
| Golynx | Ya you could do that | 18:59 |
| Kilos | i can buy win dvds. legal ones and resel i think | 19:00 |
| Kilos | i dunno how it works | 19:00 |
| magespawn | Kilos, anyone can sell windows cds but you have to buy them from microsoft or one their distributors | 19:00 |
| magespawn | buy for x sell for two time sx | 19:00 |
| magespawn | make money | 19:01 |
| Kilos | ya the peeps i get pc spares from sell them | 19:01 |
| Kilos | i mailed you i think | 19:01 |
| Kilos | omega.com i think | 19:01 |
| Kilos | they cheap | 19:01 |
| Kilos | sell foxconn stuff | 19:01 |
| Kilos | and pioneer dvdwriters | 19:02 |
| Kilos | and tons of other stuff | 19:02 |
| magespawn | yup, of you get big enough then you can buy wholesale | 19:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:02 |
| Kilos | dreams | 19:02 |
| Golynx | You are on the right track there Kilos, keep it up | 19:04 |
| Kilos | they not cheap. win7 and office can nearly build a new dual core pc | 19:04 |
| Kilos | i gotta do something | 19:04 |
| Kilos | many years unemployed | 19:04 |
| Kilos | but the head can handle working on pcs | 19:05 |
| Kilos | cant do physical stuff anymore | 19:05 |
| Golynx | if you were as creative and talented as your daughter, then you could be totally unique and sculpt custom pc's from wood or any other type of material :) | 19:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:07 |
| Kilos | 3d printer | 19:07 |
| Golynx | lol | 19:07 |
| Golynx | Many of those kinda people in SA, that make artworks from everyday objects , even rubbish and people buy their creations | 19:08 |
| Kilos | im not creative but i love playing with hardware | 19:09 |
| Kilos | and seeing a working end product | 19:09 |
| Golynx | Aah thats ok too, aslong as you enjoy what you do | 19:10 |
| Kilos | spent last 5 years or so making scrap pcs work | 19:10 |
| Kilos | yeah sorry i didnt start 20 or 30 years ago | 19:11 |
| Kilos | its the software that kills me thats why im here | 19:11 |
| Kilos | where the brains rest | 19:11 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 19:13 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 19:14 |
| Golynx | Its never too late | 19:14 |
| Golynx | hey superfly | 19:14 |
| superfly | oh Golynx | 19:15 |
| magespawn | hey superfly | 19:16 |
| superfly | heya magespawn | 19:17 |
| Kilos | gotmeet the python master | 19:17 |
| Golynx | Pitty liamT aint here, the python master should know alot about flask | 19:20 |
| Kilos | he is super busy most of the time | 19:21 |
| Kilos | he helped me from a mechanic to where i am now | 19:21 |
| Kilos | him pro and mage and afew others | 19:22 |
| Kilos | i knew nothing when i came here | 19:22 |
| Kilos | only knew how to format and reinstall xp | 19:22 |
| magespawn | not only good on python | 19:22 |
| Golynx | Thats great, its good to have many teachers | 19:22 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy you been on holiday | 19:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hi :) | 19:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i have | 19:23 |
| Kilos | aha | 19:23 |
| magespawn | hey ThatGraemeGuy | 19:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | some offline time | 19:23 |
| Golynx | Hi ThatGraemeGuy | 19:23 |
| Kilos | important meet 28th at 8.30pm ThatGraemeGuy | 19:23 |
| Kilos | about the net in za | 19:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i think i found an expensive hobby i probably shouldn't be researching, but will anyway | 19:24 |
| Kilos | tell | 19:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | drove a houseboat on the knysna lagoon for 2 nights | 19:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:24 |
| magespawn | wow i tend to get strange symptoms when i do that | 19:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | totally addicted, i can see myself buying some form of water craft | 19:25 |
| Kilos | income much less | 19:26 |
| Kilos | and not good for family man with kids that gotta go to school | 19:26 |
| Kilos | unles you live onshore in a house | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, come to the meeting and share youre knowledge before you go become a boat person | 19:29 |
| magespawn | can still be online onaboat | 19:30 |
| Kilos | ya with 3g if theres a tower near | 19:30 |
| Kilos | lotsa forest there | 19:30 |
| magespawn | or satellite | 19:30 |
| Kilos | and motor must run to charge batteries | 19:30 |
| Kilos | and fuel going up again in 2 weeks | 19:31 |
| Golynx | or google internet balloons lol | 19:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i don't mean to live on, just something i can play with on weekends | 19:31 |
| magespawn | ahh a toy | 19:31 |
| Kilos | no need for pitbulls on a boat | 19:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | couple of nice big dams around an hour or so from me | 19:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but yeah, not now :( | 19:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 5-10 years maybe | 19:32 |
| Kilos | lekker ThatGraemeGuy boats are fun | 19:32 |
| Kilos | i spent years skiboat fishing | 19:32 |
| Kilos | not on dams of course | 19:32 |
| Golynx | yachts are even more fun , but more expensive | 19:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but we will definitely go back to that place in knysna again and spend longer, 4 nights or so | 19:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hopefully take another couple along | 19:33 |
| Kilos | lekker | 19:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or even a group of 8, rent 2 boats | 19:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so so so great an experience | 19:33 |
| Kilos | makes a good break away from work | 19:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 19:34 |
| Kilos | take the fly, he needs a break | 19:34 |
| magespawn | they also do house boats up here on jozi dam | 19:34 |
| Kilos | oh ya thats a massive dam magespawn | 19:34 |
| Kilos | was near empty when i left there | 19:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | there are a couple around the country, some self-drive, some are chartered during the day and then they leave you alone at night | 19:35 |
| Kilos | peaceful out there | 19:35 |
| * Kilos loves the water | 19:36 | |
| Kilos | oh magespawn remeber i told you bios showed something about a password on the 2 TB | 20:04 |
| Kilos | it doesnt show anymore | 20:05 |
| Kilos | but 7 wont install on it. it says this drive will crash soon | 20:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:05 |
| Kilos | i wanna prove it wrong | 20:06 |
| Kilos | as is i can use it as 1.7TB storage. but i want to install ubuntu on it then run badblocks | 20:07 |
| Golynx | Thats the way Kilos :) | 20:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:07 |
| Kilos | stuborn | 20:07 |
| Kilos | stubborn | 20:08 |
| Kilos | i see 12.04 is now 12.04.4 | 20:09 |
| Kilos | so near to last upgrading | 20:09 |
| Kilos | and 15 months of support left | 20:10 |
| Kilos | busy installing dos 7.1 on a broken 80g drive that only shows 10g | 20:11 |
| Golynx | Thats good, weed out those bugs | 20:12 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:12 |
| Kilos | many bad sectors | 20:12 |
| Kilos | but should end up with enough good space to save backups on | 20:12 |
| Kilos | use dos and windows to cover the bad areas | 20:13 |
| Golynx | Ya the backup option sounds good | 20:13 |
| Golynx | Best to install an os on a good drive | 20:14 |
| Kilos | yip | 20:14 |
| Kilos | but the 500g i have here is 20g win xp in the beginning and its lasted about a year so far | 20:15 |
| Kilos | one day ill buy some new drives | 20:15 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:15 |
| Golynx | You will do great in your small business | 20:20 |
| Kilos | na im too lazy | 20:20 |
| Kilos | just wanna survive' | 20:20 |
| Kilos | doing what i enjoy doing | 20:20 |
| Golynx | oh ok, ya that will work too | 20:21 |
| magespawn | good night all | 20:24 |
| superfly | Kilos: you natting on about me again? | 20:26 |
| Kilos | me? | 20:27 |
| * Kilos pleads innocence | 20:29 | |
| Kilos | everything i say is the truth superfly | 20:30 |
| Kilos | Maaz, define natting | 20:30 |
| Kilos | gee he is lagging very bad | 20:31 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't know about natting. Maybe you meant atting, Batting, Catting, Hatting, Matting, Patting, Ratting, Tatting, Vatting, Netting, Nutting, batting, matting, ratting, tatting or netting? | 20:33 |
| Kilos | sigh | 20:33 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:54 |
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