[00:00] <KI7MT> millerti, you really only have one viable option,  install 13.10 fresh, which is probably a best solution. multiple upgrades are not really the best approach.
[00:00] <SuperLag> millerti: I thought you had to specify -d after that do-release-upgrade?
[00:00] <millerti> SuperLag: Yeah, I just found that googling.
[00:01] <KI7MT> millerti, Or, this one other option, but it's development only, do-release-upgrade -d which will pull in 14.04 .. but that's a topic for #ubuntu+1
[00:01] <SuperLag> oh crap
[00:01] <SuperLag> yeah, that's not what he wants
[00:01] <millerti> Heh.  I'm not sure what I'm going to get now.  :)
[00:01] <millerti> I'm at a point where I can cancel.
[00:01] <SuperLag> millerti: I'm assuming you don't want +1
[00:02] <millerti> But I thought you had to upgrade on release at a time.  12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10
[00:02] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: so just for clarification they are http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771124, and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771123 respectively
[00:02] <nishanth> anyone know how to virtualize a windows 7 partition on ubuntu?
[00:02] <SuperLag> millerti: I'm not sure on that one
[00:02] <runnyspot> q
[00:02] <millerti> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades
[00:02] <zack__> bashing, anything?
[00:03] <millerti> Oops.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes
[00:03] <millerti> Users of other Ubuntu releases need to upgrade first to 13.04, and then to 13.10.
[00:03] <SuperLag> nishanth: VMware Workstation lets you specify a physical volume for a VM. I'm not sure about Virtualbox. I'm pretty sure KVM doesn't.
[00:03] <Bashing-om> zack__: try this, from the liveDVD ->sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot ,sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda , sudo umount /mnt .
[00:03] <KI7MT> millerti, do-release-upgrade may work if you have the Promt=normal selected in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, but your likely to ahve trouble.
[00:03] <Flunder> damn i think i crashed my os
[00:03] <Flunder> lol
[00:03] <millerti> RIght now, it's set to lts.  Should I change it to normal?
[00:04] <nishanth> SuperLag any documentations on how it is done?
[00:04] <zack__> Im actually running from ubuntu that is installed on the hard drive right now
[00:04] <SuperLag> nishanth: that's a question for #vmware
[00:04] <milamber> nishanth: are you talking about virtualbox?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ok. not seeing anything crazy there. lets check the smart info: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[00:04] <KI7MT> millerti, Promt-lts from 12.04-LTS using do-release-upgrades should return NULL on upgrades.
[00:05] <milamber> zack__: why do you think the hard disk did not get a mbr, because the flash drive gets one to be bootable
[00:05] <glitsj16> SuperLag: you can get all info from the downloaded .deb thru "dpkg-deb -I /path/to/.deb"
[00:05] <millerti> KI7MT: Well, it's set to LTS, and it's telling me that it will upgrade 100 packages and delete 4.
[00:06] <millerti> Delete 5, actually.
[00:06] <Bashing-om> zack__: lemme think about that a bit, not sure we want to try this when the partition is mounted. Just best to reboot to the install medium and run the code.
[00:06] <millerti> No, that's not what it says.  Doesn't matter.
[00:06] <zack__> Hmm Ill try that and report back then
[00:06] <zack__> I actually installed from the flash drive but I could do a dvd
[00:06] <millerti> Let's see.  I'm going to get linux-image-3.13.0-4-generic
[00:06] <KI7MT> millerti, they may be in-distro upgrades, but worse case you will probably end up with 12.10 as the next release install.
[00:07] <nishanth> milamber  i want to use the windows partition on my drive while i am in ubuntu
[00:07] <millerti> You mean I'd be upgrading from 12.10 LTS to regular 12.10?
[00:07] <millerti> After this many versions, I'd think these things would be nailed down a little better.  :)
[00:08] <nishanth> milamber is it possible to use vbox for that?
[00:08] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771164
[00:08] <loa> hitsujiTMO, hello, can you please help me with my question?
[00:09] <millerti> Interesting.  Kernel 3.13 does not correspond to any past Ubuntu release.
[00:09] <ikonia> 3.13 is not released
[00:09] <milamber> nishanth: no, if you are dual booting, you can not use the other os, you have to restart and select the other partition
[00:09] <millerti> ikonia: Good point.
[00:09] <ikonia> milamber: why do you expect a pre-release kernel that doesn't exist to corispond to an older ubuntu release.
[00:09] <KI7MT> millerti, Yes, using do-release-upgrade normally takes relesae +1 .. but with LTS, it's LTS to LTS, in lue of having the next LTS available, I believe it reverts to Prompt=normal mose, and thus, will upgrade to 12.10.
[00:10] <KI7MT> *mode
[00:10] <arooni-mobile> i can get my bluetooth headphones connectd as a headset to ubutnu 13.10; but i cant hear audio from my computer.  i tried installing bluemon  and connecting audio sink; but it fails.  ideas?
[00:10] <loa> how i can run bash script with desktop icon?
[00:10] <milamber> ikonia: not sure what you are talking about . . .
[00:10] <loa> i tried use Exec=/home/loki/start.sh
[00:10] <ikonia> 00:09 < millerti> Interesting.  Kernel 3.13 does not correspond to any past Ubuntu release.
[00:10] <ikonia> milamber: thats what I'm talking about
[00:10] <loa> but recieve error that file can't be executed
[00:11] <ikonia> why are you expecting a non-existant kernel to correspond to previous ubuntu releases ?
[00:11] <milamber> ikonia: i am milamber, that is millerti
[00:11] <ikonia> dooooooh
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> loa: chmod +x /home/loki/start.sh
[00:11] <ikonia> milamber: so sorry, my apologies
[00:11] <loa> hitsujiTMO, already
[00:11] <milamber> ikonia: no worries
[00:11] <millerti> Yeah.  So basically, I'd like to upgrade to 13.10, and do-release-upgrade doesn't even tell me which version it's trying to upgrade to.
[00:11] <loa> hitsujiTMO, i am not so noob)
[00:11] <ikonia> millerti: what version are you upgrading from ?
[00:11] <loa> looks like it must be reall executable.
[00:11] <loa> not just script
[00:12] <millerti> ikonia: 12.10 LTS
[00:12] <ikonia> millerti: 12.10 is not lts
[00:12] <loa> maybe i need Exec=bash /home/loki/start.sh
[00:12] <loa> ?
[00:12] <millerti> Ah. Let me see...
[00:12] <ikonia> loa: run file against the script
[00:12] <millerti> How do I tell which version I have?
[00:12] <ikonia> millerti: lsb_release a
[00:12] <ikonia> millerti: lsb_release -a
[00:12] <loa> ikonia, ?
[00:12] <loa> script is not file?
[00:12] <ikonia> loa: run the command "file" against the script
[00:13] <millerti> AHA.  It IS 12.04
[00:13] <KI7MT> :)
[00:13] <ikonia> millerti: ok, so do-release upgrade so not upgrade at all, as there is no lts release to upgrade to
[00:13] <ikonia> millerti: you'd have to tell it to upgrade to a non-lts release, which would be 13.10
[00:13] <millerti> Well, it offers me lots of packages to upgrade when I do that.
[00:13] <ikonia> millerti: when you do what ?
[00:14] <ikonia> millerti: you can update to 12.04.4
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: also looking healthy. please run fsck against each partition
[00:14] <millerti> And a kernel version that doesn't exist yet.  So if Prompt=lts, I think it's trying to go to the beta of 14.04
[00:14] <ikonia> millerti: which is just patch updates/bug fixes
[00:14] <bekks> nooob: run fsck -f
[00:14] <loa> ikonia, yes looks like i am noob and i have problems with permissions.
[00:14] <loa> thx
[00:14] <ikonia> millerti: what are you talking about "the kernel version doesn't exist"
[00:14] <KI7MT> do-release-upgrade wont jump from 12.04 to 13.10 wiht Prompt=normal .. dont think -d will either.
[00:14] <ikonia> millerti: what kernel version ?
[00:14] <millerti> Current kernel is 3.2.0-58
[00:14] <bekks> KI7MT: you can only update to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10
[00:14] <ikonia> millerti: and ?
[00:15] <KI7MT> I know this.
[00:15] <millerti> And with Prompt=lts, it wants to upgrade to lernel 3.13.0
[00:15] <ikonia> millerti: no it doesn't
[00:15] <Kuro-Maii> does any one know of a way to block a user from using an application?
[00:15] <millerti> With Prompt=normal, it wants to upgrade to kernel 3.5.0
[00:15] <ikonia> millerti: unless you have external PPA's / repos enabled
[00:15] <millerti> ikonia: I didn't do the install.  I bet the installer did that.
[00:15] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: so as I posted before '6771164' is the end of the URL http://paste.ubuntu.com/6771164
[00:16] <ikonia> millerti: as the kernel 3.13 does not exist in the stable ubuntu repos - you are either a.) mistaken b.) not using the stable repos
[00:16] <KI7MT> 3.13.x kernels are 14.04
[00:16] <millerti> Yes.
[00:16] <ikonia> millerti: 14.04 is not released, so it won't update to 14.04
[00:16] <millerti> I can't really explain it other than that this is what it tells me it's going to update to.
[00:16] <KI7MT> it will if he uses -d
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: yup got it. it looks ok. you've crypted partitions right?
[00:16] <millerti> I did that.
[00:16] <ikonia> KI7MT: he didn't say he did...
[00:16] <ikonia> oh wait he did
[00:16] <millerti> Sorry.
[00:16] <ikonia> millerti: why did you do tha
[00:16] <ikonia> t
[00:17] <millerti> Someone else here suggested it.  :)
[00:17] <ikonia> that's for a development upgrade
[00:17] <david38400>  anyone please tell me why my web browser in youtube says I need to update adobe flash player and when I terminal it tells me I have the latest version installed? PLEASE
[00:17] <nooob> bekks:  hitsujiTMO ' warning the filesystem is mounted if you continue. You will cause sever filesystem dammage
[00:17] <jrib> david38400: what ubuntu version?
[00:17] <bekks> nooob: You have to do that offline.
[00:17] <millerti> Anyhow, if I change Prompt=normal, it offers me packages that correspond to 12.10
[00:17] <KI7MT> In my comments above, stated as such, that this would be a conversation for #ubunt+1 is -d was used on 12.04 LTS
[00:17] <david38400> jrib: Ubuntu 12.04, thks
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: boot to recovery. then run fsck
[00:17] <millerti> linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic
[00:17] <KI7MT> *if -d was used
[00:18] <millerti> So, if I change Prompt=normal and do this upgrade, will I horribly hose my system?
[00:18] <milamber> Kuro-Maii: it involves editing groups and permissions, but it is possible: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941659
[00:18] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I haven't partitioned the disk, but it is encrypted
[00:18] <ikonia> millerti: did you try to upgrade using -d ?
[00:18] <david38400> jrib: seems I am having problems too with flv downloading files, they don't play  properly. Is this due to the same problem do you know?
[00:18] <millerti> ikonia: Well, not this time.
[00:18] <ikonia> millerti: no at all
[00:18] <ikonia> millerti: did you try at all on this system to use -d
[00:18] <KI7MT> millerti,  it should upgrade to 12.10 at that point .. my opinion, you better off waiting for 14.04 LTS or install 13.10 native.
[00:18] <Kuro-Maii> milamber, thank you I will have a look at that
[00:19] <millerti> Getting physical access to the machine before Monday will be impossible.
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: what might have happened is some sort of impropper shutdown. a number of your partitions look dirty so theres a change part of a crypted partition is corrupt
[00:19] <Magicsack> Back (again) MoPac :)
[00:19] <millerti> What I want to do is get a much more recent kernel so that I can switch to btrfs on the data array.
[00:19] <ikonia> millerti: did you try at all on this system to use -d
[00:20] <lemmoner> hi, skype is driving me crazy. I've installed Ubuntu 13.10 amd64 and I cannot handle to make the webcam work with it. Every time I open Skype and go check the video settingss, my ubuntu freezes and I have to reboot to get control again
[00:20] <millerti> ikonia: Yes.  When I had Prompt=lts, I used -d, and it offered me what appears to be 14.04 LTS.
[00:20] <ikonia> millerti: did it start to download/install things ?
[00:20] <Magicsack> I did the command sudo apt-get install compizconfig, I then did intall unity
[00:20] <millerti> ikonia: Yes, and it offered me lots of packages to update.
[00:20] <david38400> No help anybody?
[00:20] <millerti> I didn't install anything.  It just downloaded.
[00:20] <ikonia> millerti: are you %100 sure
[00:21] <Magicsack> I now have my sidebar and time bar etc back
[00:21] <millerti> Positive.  There's a prompt that asks if I want to perform the install.
[00:21] <Bashing-om> zack__: [laying catch up --from the flash drive - try ubuntu mode - will be fine .
[00:21] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: terminated with status 1
[00:21] <lemmoner> i've been looking in google for a fix, but cannot find any that match my needs. I tried preloading the libv4l which is repeated almost in every forum, without a success.
[00:21] <ikonia> millerti: ok, so you should be "ok" moving forward then
[00:21] <lemmoner> does anyone have any idea or got the same problem?
[00:21] <millerti> With Prompt=normal, -d makes no difference.  I still get linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic, which is 12.10
[00:21] <ikonia> millerti: stop using -d !!!!
[00:22] <ikonia> millerti: I've just told you it's for DEVELOPMENT versions
[00:22] <ikonia> millerti: listening would be a REALLY good start to not breaking your system
[00:22] <bekks> millerti: Do you know that the current kernel for 12.04 is 3.5.0?
[00:22] <milamber> lemmoner: can you run other programs that use the webcam?
[00:22] <millerti> Ok.  I misunderstood.  Anyhow, I did it only to find out which packages it would install.
[00:22] <bekks> millerti: Check with packages.ubuntu.com
[00:22] <lemmoner> milamber, yep, cheese is running fine
[00:22] <millerti> bekks: The current version of the kernel for 12.04 is 3.2.0-58, as far as I can tell.
[00:23] <millerti> And that matches the wikipedia article.
[00:23] <ikonia> the lts enablement stack maybe of use to you
[00:23] <ikonia> this is pointless.....
[00:23] <ikonia> wikipedia check when bekks's has just told you where to check
[00:23] <milamber> lemmoner: have you tried running the program from the terminal and seeing if any errors come up? and what version of skype and how did you install it?
[00:23] <millerti> I'm not used to using Ubuntu!
[00:24] <ikonia> millerti: this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:24] <millerti> Hell, I'm not really good at sysadmin.  I'm a chip designer.
[00:24] <bekks> millerti: Using the LTS enablement stack it is 3.8.0 even.
[00:24] <ikonia> a user gave you a URL to check, you went and checked another url
[00:24] <millerti> Oh.  I'll google that.
[00:24] <ikonia> google ???
[00:24] <millerti> I'm doing it.  :)
[00:24] <Bashing-om> skinux: still with me ?
[00:24] <ikonia> he gave you THE URL - you don't google it, you visit THE URL
[00:24] <ikonia> this is a wasste of my time
[00:24] <lemmoner> milamber, yes. I got no error. Just the system gets frozen. Mouse/Keyboard doesn't work, I cannot switch to terminal with Ctrl+Alt+Fx. I installed it from canonical repos
[00:25] <bekks> millerti: Read this URL carefully: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: what was the exact command you gave?
[00:25] <lemmoner> milamber, Skype 4.2.0.11
[00:25] <bekks> millerti: It contains everything you need. No reason for google.
[00:26] <millerti> ikonia: I'm doing what you said to do.  I went to that URL, found the kernel packages, and I observe that 3.8.0-30 appears to be the latest.
[00:26] <Mitchell92> Got ubuntu's unity interface on my Samsung Chromebook ;-)
[00:26] <Beldar> lemmoner, You are probably swapping, check the memory use.
[00:26] <millerti> I'm a bit slow on this, and I'm also not telling you every thing I'm doing.
[00:26] <millerti> Also, thank you for the info on the enablement stack.
[00:26] <lemmoner> Beldar, I have in use 1GB RAM out of 3GB
[00:27] <Beldar> lemmoner, If you have swap at 60 it starts to swap at about half.
[00:27] <millerti> ikonia: Sorry for the frustration.  I'm just playing catch-up here.
[00:28] <Beldar> lemmoner, The freeze is probably a swapping incidence
[00:28] <millerti> bekks: Looks like I need to read this carefully.
[00:28] <millerti> Gotta go!
[00:28] <lemmoner> you mean the ratio swap memory vs RAM? I do have 4GB each, but 1GB RAM is just used by the embedded GPU
[00:28] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: http://m.imgur.com/A5UsbxQ done, now how do I get out of this screen?
[00:28] <WASH_JONES> Hey everyone - quick question, might be a simple one. I've got Ubuntu installed and it's been working great, but I want to reinstall it because I didn't enable the default full disk encryption last time I installed. Is there a simple way to just reinstall/start over from the command line, or even a menu function? Thanks!
[00:28] <milamber> lemmoner: have you enabled multiarch?
[00:29] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: which one?
[00:29] <Beldar> lemmoner, Look up swappiness and adjust it, just a guess but I suspect that is the issue.
[00:29] <lemmoner> milamber, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ?
[00:30] <milamber> lemmoner: yes
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: you didn't manually run fsck?
[00:30] <Beldar> WASH_JONES, No reinstalls that save your setup, especially to now encrypt.
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: reboot to recovery. then run fsck /dev/sda1
[00:30] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I
[00:31] <WASH_JONES> Yeah, I don't want to save setup or anything, I've got all my files backed up. A nice clean wipe wouldn't be a bad thing.
[00:31] <WASH_JONES> Just want to reinstall is all.
[00:31] <lemmoner> milamber, I tried after some workarounds in a row and I got some errors with the audio I guess. But that was before re-installing 13.10 again, but I can try again
[00:31] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: but if I do it after I boot then it will cause dammage?
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: no, recovery mounts everything as read only, so its ok
[00:31] <milamber> lemmoner: have you done it sine you reinstalled?
[00:31] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: how do I get out of that screen though?
[00:31] <milamber> since*
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> !reisub | nooob try this
[00:32] <Beldar> WASH_JONES, Go for it and think hard if encrypting is a good idea, if you do it right and save the passwords and it does not go south you it will be okay, however that is a perfect world scenario.
[00:32] <lemmoner> Beldar, my swappiness is set to 60. Should it be higher?
[00:32] <lemmoner> milamber, not since the re-installation
[00:32] <milamber> lemmoner: you should do that for sure
[00:33] <Beldar> lemmoner, lower, generally 10 is used, then restart the process set set it as running.
[00:33] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: sorry this is taking so long
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO>  nooob no problem
[00:34] <WASH_JONES> Right, but what I'm wondering is what the best procedure would be to reinstall? I have Ubuntu on a flash drive next to me but I've only ever installed it on a blank machine before, not on one already running Ubuntu. So I was just wondering what the quickest way would be.
[00:34] <Magicsack> I am now unable to run sudo apt-get install any system/ software updates. Is there another command i can run?
[00:34] <DoverMo> Magicsack, you can do the same thing with the 'aptitude' package manager
[00:35] <Magicsack> wont let me run compizconfig-settings-man
[00:35] <Magicsack> DOVER??
[00:35] <DoverMo> Magicsack, me? sudo aptitude install foobar
[00:36] <Magicsack> I meant your location mate, very close indeed ;)
[00:36] <Stalkr^> Hey all, I just downloaded Ubuntu Server and got it running on an old Mac mini. Is it possible to connect to the wireless internet? The mini can connect fine when running OS X
[00:37] <DoverMo> Magicsack, oh. i don't live in dover xP
[00:37] <Magicsack> lol
[00:38] <Beldar> WASH_JONES, Use the something else option use the same partitions set them to format and do the encrypt.
[00:38] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  so I booted to recovery mode, and now there is a purple screen with a menu  with options resume - normal boot, clean dog, etc
[00:38] <lemmoner> milamber, Beldar I'm giving a try to both your solutions and come back
[00:38] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: lol dpkg not dog
[00:39] <Beldar> lemmoner, I only gave you one changing the swappiness.
[00:39] <AvengerLives> cleaning dogs is a recovery function as well
[00:39] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: do I select fsck from there, or select resume?
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: is there a drop to root shell prompt?
[00:39] <WASH_JONES> Full disk encryption is a standard feature in Ubuntu 12.4 LTS on setup, so all I'll need to do is check the "enable full disk encryption" box when installing. All I want to know is the best way to install Ubuntu from a running instance of Ubuntu.
[00:39] <AvengerLives> these linux distros are geting truckier by the day
[00:39] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: yes
[00:39] <AvengerLives> trickier*
[00:39] <Beldar> WASH_JONES, YOu have to do this from the live cd/usb
[00:39] <lemmoner> Beldar, I mean swappiness you proposed and multiarch milamber proposed
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: pop into that and run fsck from there
[00:40] <Mitchell92> Can someone assist me with installing Flash Player on ARM?
[00:40] <lemmoner> skype is turning into a headache lately, are there alternatives of quality out there?
[00:41] <Beldar> lemmoner, multiarch has nothing to do with the issue.
[00:41] <WASH_JONES> Alright, that's what I thought. I have a USB with Ubuntu on it right here. If I have it plugged in on startup will it just give me an option to reinstall?
[00:42] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: http://m.imgur.com/BfGCtDq
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ok, reboot and see if you get the same errors now
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> Mitchell92: http://askubuntu.com/questions/364529/what-is-the-status-of-getting-flash-and-chromium-for-ubuntu-arm
[00:44] <Mitchell92> thanks
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> Mitchell92: gnash seems to be the only player available
[00:44] <milamber> Beldar: yes, it does. i am a 64 bit user and have had issues with it when multiarch is not enabled. also, the ubuntu documentation agrees. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[00:45] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: nope, exact same screen saying something about irq. Priorities
[00:45] <Beldar> milamber, You give no details proving this.
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: can you post a snap of it again
[00:46] <lemmoner> milamber, multiarch is again breaking my sound
[00:47] <milamber> Beldar: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/No-webcam-in-Ubuntu-12-10-64bit-and-Skype-4-1-20-multiarch/td-p/1251278
[00:47] <lemmoner> Beldar, by the way, my use of SWAP is 0% even with Skype running
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> milamber: lemmoner skype sucks on linux. nothing to do with multiarch
[00:48] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: http://m.imgur.com/GbEspuX exactly the same
[00:48] <Mitchell92> hitsujiTMO: gnash?
[00:48] <bekks> Mitchell92: even more bad than skype.
[00:48] <lemmoner> Beldar, by the way, my use of SWAP is 0% even with Skype running. isn't this what you are suggesting with swappiness to 10?
[00:48] <Mitchell92> What about skype?
[00:48] <Mitchell92> should have gone intel chromebook
[00:48] <Mitchell92> :(
[00:49] <bekks> lemmoner: swappiness has not much to do with skype.
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> Mitchell92: its an opensource flash player, but it sucks.
[00:49] <bekks> lemmoner: vm.swappiness=10 just says: "start swapping when free RAM gets below 10% of physical RAM"
[00:50] <Magicsack> Just like to say thanks for the helpl and patience. I appear to have 13.1 back
[00:50] <WASH_JONES> Thanks!
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: one last thing. go back and edit the boot prompt again. this time instead of adding text, remove quiet and splash. then f10 to boot
[00:51] <Beldar> lemmoner, Good, as  I said it was a guess that the swap was an issue.
[00:53] <nooob> I keep the rest of the line though right?
[00:54] <raiderturbo> hi all, might be a simple question, but how do I check my swap file usage to make sure it's being used? I created a swap partition when installing but I'm not sure it's working..?
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: yup
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: free -m
[00:54] <lemmoner> every time I try to check the video on Skype the X/system freezes. Which are the logs that I should check for troubleshooting? Xorg.0.log for the X. A specific one for the system?
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> lemmoner: /var/log/syslog is the system log
[00:55] <Mitchell92> so there is no flash for ARM processors?
[00:55] <lemmoner> hitsujiTMO, thx
[00:55] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: thanks, this is my output: Swap:         3904         23       3881, is this okay? only 23Mb being used?
[00:56] <lemmoner> fingers crossed.......
[00:56] <bekks> Mitchell92: erm, no.
[00:56] <Mitchell92> how about Skype for ARM?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: yup. the system will minimise its use until its needed. its not something you want being overly used
[00:56] <Mitchell92> ugh I should have gotten the Intel chromebook
[00:57] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: Great, I'm hoping it wont get used too much as I've got 8Gb RAM... ;)
[00:57] <Beldar> Mitchell92, Getting the chromebook at all is a waste of money in my opinion.
[00:57] <Mitchell92> ok
[00:57] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: http://m.imgur.com/YaOyIfQ
[00:58] <Beldar> Mitchell92, It is okay for that OS, ubuntu can be installed, but better done on a regular pc.
[00:58] <Mitchell92> yes
[00:58] <Mitchell92> Is there any IM program out there that will let me chat (text) with Skype users?
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: can you try: ctrl + alt + f1 and see if you can log in there?
[00:58] <DoverMo> Mitchell92, nope
[00:59] <Mitchell92> no multi-protocol instant messengers?
[00:59] <DoverMo> Mitchell92, if arm supports i386 instructions then it will work
[00:59] <Mitchell92> not asking for skype itself
[00:59] <DoverMo> Mitchell92, skype is proprietary voip
[00:59] <Mitchell92> asking for a general IM application that can communicate over Skype with just text.
[00:59] <Mitchell92> Okay.
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> Mitchell92: skype has a closed protocol
[01:00] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I did it, and now I'm back in the text only mode
[01:00] <jeffrey_f> Thinkpad T60.  Need to flash bios.  2 avail ways: Windows program (doesn't work in Ubuntu - should I trust it under emulation??)  or ISO but no avail CDR media.  Any ideas or experience with this?
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: once again: dmesg | pastebinit
[01:01] <Beldar> jeffrey_f, Many bios have a bootable, have you checked?
[01:01] <Magicsack> Anyreason why I have had to reinstall software center? I also dont have transmission anymore?
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: also: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[01:01] <nooob> 6771386 hitsujiTMO
[01:02] <DoverMo> Magicsack, because it needed an update?
[01:02] <milamber> jeffrey_f: coreboot?
[01:02] <Beldar> jeffrey_f, If there is an iso you can use a usb.
[01:02] <jeffrey_f> Beldar: I have an ISO, but no CDR media available at this moment
[01:03] <Magicsack> Dover: I had no desktop and couldnt use anything until i used install unitu & conpizconfig
[01:04] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: dmesg is 6771386 and lightdm is 6771389
[01:04] <lemmoner> milamber, definitely multiarch is not improving the situation. The sysem hangs again, but I cannot find any sign of what's going on. No events in Xorg.0.log or syslog, and CPU/RAM/SWAP consumption didn't vary right before getting frozen
[01:05] <lemmoner> any suggestion different than setting fire to my PC?
[01:05] <DoverMo> Magicsack, weird
[01:05] <nooob> lemmoner: sledgehammers are good too
[01:05] <milamber> lemmoner: can you install gnome media: sudo apt-get install gnome-media and then run gstreamer-properties, it will let you test the v4l components
[01:05] <DoverMo> lemmoner, what's the problem?
[01:05] <Magicsack> you turned up after my issues mate loll
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[01:07] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771396
[01:07] <DoverMo> Magicsack, i don't use software center : P
[01:07] <lemmoner> DoverMo, Skype 4.2 in Ubuntu 13.10 x64. Anytime I try to use video on Skype, my system hungs completely and the only way to recover it is rebooting the system
[01:07] <DoverMo> lemmoner, oh o-o
[01:08] <Magicsack> I did, at least until I've gotten used to sudo (now) after all my issues lol. Very thankful for the help
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter
[01:09] <Beldar> lemmoner, Is this skype from the ubuntu repos?
[01:09] <lemmoner> Beldar, yep
[01:10] <Beldar> lemmoner, Cool, have you tried htop to see what is running when you have problems or looked at dmesg
[01:11] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: and reboot?
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: yup
[01:11] <milamber> lemmoner: have you done an apt-update and upgrade since the installation of multiarch?
[01:13] <lemmoner> I'm doing it now
[01:13] <jeffrey_f> milamber and Beldar: Looking into both.
[01:13] <jp_> hi guys
[01:13] <Beldar> lemmoner, What desktop is this?
[01:13] <lemmoner> Beldar, Unity
[01:14] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: btw on start up I get the options to skip mounting, or press m for manual recovery, that wasn't happening before I had these issues
[01:14] <Beldar> lemmoner, Cool, hope you get it resolved.
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: is it saying for a specific drive?
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: or partition i should say
[01:15] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I only have one partition, I will reboot to  check
[01:16] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: I'm getting the message that nooob is getting at startup too. Mines for the swap partition... What does it mean?
[01:17] <rostam> HI I am using 12.04 LTS there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf, ??
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: do you have a crypted swap?
[01:18] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure. How can I tell?
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: its the kind of thing you would know if you had one, so most likely you dont. are you able to boot into the desktop?
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: it suggest there may be an issue with the partition or the underlying hardware.
[01:22] <nooob> My phone ran out of battery hitsujiTMO
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: np
[01:22] <millerti> Is the saucy enablement stack for LTS stable?  All of the questions I see in forums are old enough that I cannot tell if lts-saucy is recommended or not.
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: they like to do that at the worst of times
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> millerti: saucy stack should be now available
[01:23] <millerti> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.
[01:24] <mr-techguy> Hello every one i setup my Ubuntu Server this weekend, using SSH  I set my server up so that I can use putty to remote to it
[01:24] <mr-techguy> But when I when to another locating i could not reach it
[01:26] <mr-techguy> i used port forwaring and set my port to 21
[01:26] <mr-techguy> what am i dong wrong
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> mr-techguy: ssh is on port 22
[01:26] <millerti> I currently don't have X11 installed.  At some point, installing some tool that wants X11 support will pull in X11.  Should I go ahead and include xserver-xorg-lts-saucy when adding the LTS enablement stack?
[01:27] <lemmoner> milaber, gstreamer-properties gets the same result while testing video. My computer hangs again........and again......
[01:27] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: imgur isn't cooperating any more, so immediately after I reinstalled that thing the screen was the same, except there were a few lines above what was there before, and it wasn't zoomed in too far
[01:27] <millerti> Or does Ubunto separate xlib from X11 so that I can install X11 apps and only use them remotely?
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ctrl alt + f1 again.
[01:28] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: when I reboot after you asked about partitions, I checked and it did not display that message about s or m
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: maybe running fsck cleaned the dirty prtition
[01:28] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: same as before, text only mode.
[01:29] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: could this have anything to do with virtual box?
[01:29] <lemmoner> Beldar what is your suggestion with dmesg / htop?
[01:30] <mr-techguy> Hello I am trying use putty to ssh to my server. but when I try I get it cant be reached
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: no. its file system issues. atm lightdm-gtk-greeter is failing to launch. so we need to fix that
[01:30] <mr-techguy> can some one help me
[01:30] <DoverMo> mr-techguy, if the price is right
[01:30] <mr-techguy> wow
[01:31] <DoverMo> mr-techguy, three cows
[01:31] <DoverMo> mr-techguy, should suffice
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: once again: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[01:31] <DoverMo> mr-techguy, and maybe, 50 schillings
[01:31] <KI7MT> mr-techguy, well couple things, is an ssh server active on the server your trying to reach .. abd what connect sctring are you using?
[01:31] <KI7MT> *and what connect string .. ..
[01:32] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I think the message actually says "Please wait or press ? to skip mounting or press 'm' for manual recovery... I've just done  a sudo fdisk -l and got this output: http://pastebin.com/RaJkzLJn
[01:33] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771507
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: run fsck on the cryptswap with it unmounted
[01:33] <mr-techguy> this my home ububto server I just build this weekend
[01:33] <mr-techguy> and yes SSH is active
[01:33] <raiderturbo> hisujiTMO: Thanks... Will do.
[01:34] <mr-techguy> I have cable inter net
[01:34] <KI7MT> mr-techguy, ok, make sure you have the right IP address, and that you have installed openssh-server
[01:35] <mr-techguy> yes I did that in the setup I can use putty and remote to the server on my latptop
[01:35] <mr-techguy> it work when I am at home
[01:35] <KI7MT> mr-techguy, The it's just: ssh $USER@ip-address  .. then accept the key, and use your server username and pw
[01:35] <mr-techguy> I just can reach it when I am out
[01:36] <KI7MT> mr-techguy, SO you trying to connect to the server from outside of your home LAN ?
[01:36] <mr-techguy> yes
[01:36] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: this whole thing started when I was trying to install an XML viewer. In virtual box there was a message about how one of the ISO's were missing, but it worked fine and I ignored it. After that I found another one that ran natively on Linux and tried to install via the software center. ( it was not actually in the software center though)  When I did that it froze halfway through and I closed it, but icons started dosapeering so I rest
[01:36] <mr-techguy> i port forward my router
[01:37] <mr-techguy> but  i can reach my server
[01:37] <KI7MT> mr-techguy, That's a diff issue, you need to either open a port on the router to allow inboud ssh to the server, or put the box in a dmz somethign along those lines.
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: the "-s" here is very important: sudo apt-get purge -s lightdm-gtk-greeter | pastebinit
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: hehe, i guess you now know the perils of an impropper shutdown
[01:38] <mr-techguy> Thanks
[01:38] <DoverMo> halt now
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> mr-techguy: you forwarded port 22?
[01:39] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771522
[01:39] <mr-techguy> no I used 21
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> mr-techguy: ssh uses port 22 not 21. 21 is ftp
[01:39] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: Sorry to hassle you again. I've unmounted the swap partition but I'm not really sure what I'm doing with 'fsck' could you give me a pointer?
[01:40] <mr-techguy> ok let me try that
[01:40] <mr-techguy> Thank yo
[01:40] <mr-techguy> you
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: sudo fsck /dev/whateverreferstoyourswappartition
[01:41] <raiderturbo> hitsujoTMO: Thanks again!
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo apt-get purge lightdm-gtk-greeter ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme && sudo apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme
[01:44] <millerti> Uh-oh.  Something weird happened after installing the LTS enablement stack.  Now my root volume is mounted on both / and /data, while my data array is not mounted.  fstab has UUIDs in it, so what could be going wrong?
[01:46] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: btw should I ignore the text " the following packages were automatically installed and no longer necessary"?
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: you can get rid of them later if they're not actually needed with: sudo apt-get autoremove. for now just ignore them
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> millerti: pastebin the output of: mount                and: sudo blkid
[01:48] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I accidentally misspelled gtk in the second command, so I had to do it in to parts rather than &&
[01:48] <miller_> Que hago para que mozilla firefox ultima version sea mas rapido?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: thats ok
[01:49] <Linkandzelda> guys, git is crashing when cloning a repo on 13.04... anyone encountered that before? o_O
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> !es | miller_
[01:49] <millerti> hitsujiTMO: Wait.  I think I see the problem.  For some reason, the intalling person did the data array by device node, not UUID.  I think I can fix this.
[01:50] <lemmoner> milamber, Beldar any other suggestion?
[01:50] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: still not working
[01:51] <millerti> hitsujiTMO: Yup.  Works now.  For some bizarre reason, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb swapped places on a reboot.
[01:51] <Beldar> lemmoner, Not really.
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> millerti: thats a little odd
[01:51] <millerti> hitsujiTMO: VERY odd.  But by putting the UUID into fstab, it's all fixed.
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo mkdir /usr/share/lightdm/sessions
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: then reboot
[01:53] <FireStorms> How can I find what and where the program is that is using port 80; it looks like I have an apache web server running on port localhost:80 *BUT* there's no web server installed on my box
[01:54] <bhldev> netstat
[01:55] <bigalnz> I have got my tv connceted as a monitor via HDMI
[01:55] <bigalnz> but the picture is slightly too big and forums say its a overscan issue
[01:55] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  no dice
[01:55] <bigalnz> I have nvidia X server installed
[01:55] <bigalnz> not sure if my system is using nvidia xserver
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: once again: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[01:55] <bigalnz> any ideas on how to fix?
[01:55] <bhldev> Firestorms: netstat
[01:55] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: What does 127.0.0.1:80 give you?
[01:56] <jjavaholic> installing oss4-base tries to remove ubuntu-desktop why does it do this?
[01:56] <lemmoner> any good alternative to skype?
[01:56] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: typed of course in your browser.
[01:56] <FireStorms> KLVTZ, the same as localhost
[01:56] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: which is? Nothing?
[01:56] <lemmoner> skype not working in Linux sounds like a reason for many to switch back to windows :(
[01:57] <FireStorms> KLVTZ,  It works! /var/www/index.html (host) This is the default web page for this server. The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[01:57] <cbrZ> FireStorms: netstat --ip --listening
[01:57] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771584
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: Replaces: linux-sound-base     would be why
[01:57] <jjavaholic> why was it replaced?
[01:57] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: you do have a web server installed on your box.
[01:58] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: in your terminal: apache2 -v
[01:58] <KLVTZ> assuming you have that xD
[01:58] <FireStorms>  netstat --ip --listening : tcp       0      0 localhost:ipp           *:*                     LISTEN
[01:58] <FreewheelinFrank> What do you use besides Skype?
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo rm -r /var/cache/lightdm
[01:59] <FireStorms> KLVTZ, Server version: Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu) Server built:   Dec  5 2013 18:33:15
[01:59] <cbrZ> FireStorm: sudo netstat --ip --listening -pn
[01:59] <cbrZ> this will show the program and PID listening on :80
[01:59] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: reboot?
[02:00] <jjavaholic> with oss4-base deprecated how can I expect to get secondlife to work with audio?
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: as in oss4-base is an alternative to linux-sound-base    ... you can only have 1 of them installed. ubuntu desktop uses linux-sound-base
[02:00] <FireStorms> KLVTZ, thanks, it must of come with linux mint, because i certaintly did not install this web server
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: yup
[02:02] <Guest65737> any chat for ruby on rails?
[02:03] <jjavaholic> how do you get secondlife to operate with music without oss4-base?
[02:03] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: :( again, on the bright side I won't be a noob by the time this is over
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | Guest65164
[02:03] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: thank you for teaching me
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: lol. this is a tough issue.
[02:04] <Guest65737> thanks ubottu
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: once again: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[02:04] <KLVTZ> FireStorms: No problem! Glad I could help :)
[02:05] <nooob> 6771632 hitsujiTMO
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: hmm, still the same issue with the greeter :(. lets see if anything occuring in X to cause it. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:18] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771685
[02:19] <wallzero> Greetings. What would be the best way to host Xen/KVM instances on btrfs?
[02:20] <mojtaba> Is there any shortcut to access a specific workspace directly? (not alt+ctrl+navigation keys)
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ok, lets try a different greeter: sudo apt-get install lightdm-webkit-greeter && sudo apt-get remove lightdm-gtk-greeter
[02:24] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  about now I'm starting to regret making a crypto key 50 characters long
[02:26] <misternumberone> hi, running 13.10 amd64 on intel and nvidia, and I accidentally managed to really seriously mess up my x and get just a white box saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode". I've tried a good many things to fix it to no effect, but I really don't want to reinstall ubuntu.
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: lol sorry
[02:26] <mojtaba> Is there any shortcut to access a specific workspace directly? (not alt+ctrl+navigation keys)
[02:26] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: it is taking an unusually long time to mount
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: so still no luck after the restart?
[02:27] <DoverMo`> misternumberone, did you install any proprietary drivers?
[02:27] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I'm stuck at the wait, skip, or manual recover screen
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: not able to skip?
[02:28] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I should press s?
[02:28] <misternumberone> Yes, but this only happened after I acidentally deleted an xorg directory or file and restarted
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: try what you can
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: also try: ctrl + alt + f1
[02:29] <misternumberone> I tried purging my proprietary drivers though, nope. failsafe xorg in recovery mode doesn't work either, same thing.
[02:30] <Linkandzelda> can someone please help me open ports on ubuntu server? :)
[02:30] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I pressed s, it just changed to "keys", pressed ctrl alt f1 and I'm back to the trusty terminal
[02:30] <DoverMo`> misternumberone, which files?
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ok: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[02:31] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771733
[02:32] <misternumberone> Unfortunately I don't remember exactly, but I'm fairly certain it was either /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:33] <misternumberone> I think it must have been the latter as I don't think 13.10 is supposed to have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I can't be sure.
[02:33] <DoverMo> misternumberone, what driver were/are you using?
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf
[02:35] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 6771743
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/* /etc/lightdm/* | grep greeter-session
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/* /etc/lightdm/* | grep greeter-session | pastebinit
[02:37] <misternumberone> I had been using nvidia-319 and nvidia-settings-319 before, but sometimes the entire screen would freeze graphically but the desktop keep operating underneath until I went to a tty and came back upon which it would unfreeze.
[02:37] <misternumberone> I was going to try to fix that but then this happened
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: have you got cli up?
[02:39] <misternumberone> yes, I can get into a tty.
[02:39] <misternumberone> I am now
[02:39] <DoverMo> misternumberone, so i'm guessing that nouveau might not  have loaded after you uninstalled it?
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: well, then, ls -ld /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: does the folder exist?#
[02:42] <misternumberone> I'm not sure because I really don't know what graphics adapter is even running my cli right now because i have an nvidia and in intel that were designed for nvidia optimus but I had a LOT of problems immediately after install and on first boot because i think optimus is broken on linux
[02:43] <misternumberone> but should I do the ls and see is it es there?
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: that ls will say if it exists or not
[02:44] <misternumberone> yes
[02:44] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d: is a directory 6771750
[02:44] <misternumberone> it is there
[02:44] <Terces> hio everyone
[02:44] <RocketPenguin> Is Ubuntu Forums down right now, or is it my internet?
[02:45] <RocketPenguin> I cannot seem to load it, other pages load fine, and yet chrome and firefox dont even try loading it.
[02:45] <Terces> ubuntuforums.org loads fine...
[02:45] <RocketPenguin> The it must be me.
[02:45] <RocketPenguin> Thank you!
[02:46] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: 50- unity greeter.conf is 6771780
[02:46] <Terces> but I have a question too...Unity seems to interfere with XBMC...but I couldn't find much information about it anywhere
[02:46] <RocketPenguin> How would one find out which distros still support a certain graphics card?
[02:46] <Terces> ...much less any working solution
[02:47] <Terces> rocket...you "could" try them out...but that is a tedious work...
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo sed -i 's/greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter/greeter-session=lightdm-webkit-greeter/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: and also: sudo sed -i 's/greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter/greeter-session=lightdm-webkit-greeter/' /etc/lightdm/*
[02:47] <RocketPenguin> Terces, Are you saying i should try every distro out?!
[02:47] <misternumberone> i did try to reconfigure xorg and also reinstall with a lot of things for example X -configure but most of it gave errors including "unable to open display" and nothing changed the error on boot
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: what gpu?
[02:48] <RocketPenguin> hitsujiTMO,  AMD ATI Radeon HD 4200
[02:48] <Terces> depends...in what direction do you want to go: new OS/old card or oldOS/new card?
[02:48] <RocketPenguin> Quite unfortunately.
[02:48] <misternumberone> X says there is an X running but when I try to xkill it says can't open display, so I couldn't do that
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: supported by radeondriver and fglrx-legacy
[02:49] <RocketPenguin> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu itself hates my graphics card with a passion, weather or not i use fglrx, and thus want to find a distro that fully supports it.
[02:49] <Crazydog> Is there  safe mode or way to repair? My ubuntu doesnt boot up anymore.  Just hangs.
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: cat /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau
[02:50] <misternumberone> :O no such file or directory
[02:50] <RocketPenguin> Terces,  to answer your previous question, cant upgrade the card, its a laptop. Nor do i want to use an old, no longer supported distro.
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: lubuntu xubuntu ubuntu-gnome kubuntu all should support it as well as ubuntu
[02:51] <excalibr> People, any idea if overlay scrollbar can be disabled per application like global menu?
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> misternumberone: sorry: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nouveau
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> excalibr: 14.04?
[02:51] <RocketPenguin> hitsujiTMO,  Ubuntu 12.04 "Supports" it, but any update past that no longer does. Thing is, flgrx or whatever it is doesnt work well. it has been having lots of issues. blacking out screens, unity 3D stops working, etc.
[02:52] <excalibr> on 13.10
[02:52] <RocketPenguin> My question is, is there any distro that still supports this particular driver (Not stock drivers) to this date?
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: its fglrx-legacy not fglrx
[02:52] <misternumberone> it has output, lines starting with blacklist and alias
[02:53] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: That card, AMD dropped support for it in later versions of x-server. If you want a proprietary driver will have to run 12.04.1 //12.4.2 and above will not work, else it is open source drivers as the only option.
[02:53] <RocketPenguin> hitsujiTMO,  Tried both, without luck.
[02:53] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om, For every Linux Distro?
[02:53] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: yepper. blame AMD .
[02:54] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om,  Fiddlesticks.
[02:54] <misternumberone> what part should I say - also it says once that something was done by the name of the nvidia driver i most recently tried to use
[02:54] <excalibr> oh got it. just start your application with LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0
[02:54] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  for the first one : sed:  - e  expression # 1' char 41: unterminated 's' command
[02:54] <excalibr> env LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 command
[02:55] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: yeah, that is a very popular card, and many folks feel that way.// version 12.04.1 is the last version workable with proprietary drivers.
[02:55] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om, Probably a stupid question, but 12.04.1 driver or distro?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: distro .
[02:56] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om, Take it as it is not the LTS release?
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ok, lets find which file has that value then :(
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: cat /etc/lightdm/* | grep greeter-session | pastebinit
[02:57] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: 12,04.1 is still available and will have full support till 2017 !
[02:57] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om, In other words, should i stick to 12.04 LS or partial upgrade to 12.04.1?
[02:57] <RocketPenguin> LTS*
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: cat /etc/issue
[02:58] <RocketPenguin> hitsujiTMO,  Well, it appear i am running 12.04.3
[02:58] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin:  12,04.1 is LTS, hang on and I get the URL ..
[02:59] <nooob> Grip : session cat:  : No such file or directory/ etc/lightdm.fonf.d: is a directory
[02:59] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: If you want to use the proprietary AMD/ATI driver, install Ubuntu 12.04.1: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
[02:59] <misternumberone> it says "blacklist nouveau/blacklist lbm-nouveau/alias nouveau off/alias lbm-nouveau off# This file was installed by nvidia-304-updates(the most recent driver i tried to use)/blacklist lbm-nouveau/alias nouveau off/alias lbm-nouveau offoptions vmwgfx enable_bfdev=1"
[02:59] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: nooob  Grip : session cat:  : No such file or directory/ etc/lightdm.fonf.d: is a directory, you are trying to send an empty directory exiting
[03:00] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om,  Since it appears i am running 12.04.3, is there any way to downgrade?
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: try again: cat /etc/lightdm/* | grep greeter-session | pastebinit
[03:00] <RocketPenguin> Heard something about impossible to downgrade...
[03:00] <nooob> RocketPenguin: on the last line I accidentally typed document rather than directory
[03:01] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: nope, fresh install is the best way (there are some work-a-rounds but but but, not at all remommended !!) .
[03:02] <RocketPenguin> Bashing-om, Ah, ok. Would i just use a 12.04 LiveCD, or something special?
[03:02] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: ... Lightdm.conf.d: is a directory       6771841
[03:03] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: Yeah, the link above, check md5sum, burn to CD and fresh install is the best way.
[03:03] <RocketPenguin> Okidokie. Thankies!
[03:04] <Bashing-om> RocketPenguin: just my little bit to help :D
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf                                    find greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter  and change it to greeter-session=lightdm-webkit-greeter
[03:05] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: it doesn't, have to have spaces like that does it?
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: no spaces
[03:05] <Zie> I am currently having some issues with plex media server and external HDD's
[03:05] <Zie> plex will not recognize any mounted drives
[03:05] <Zie> any help will do
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Zie: how are you mounting the drives ?
[03:07] <Zie> well i tried initially just mounting via top menu -> places
[03:07] <Zie> oh im using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[03:08] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I entered that and now I am in a screen where the top is a white  bar with gnu nano 2.2.6, was I not supposed to enter that in a single line?
[03:08] <Zie> then I tried fstab
[03:08] <Zie> then i added plex user to plugdev
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: aaaah, no. that was a command, and instructions
[03:08] <Zie> and also added plex to my user group
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ctrl + x
[03:08] <Zie> still nothing
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Zie: and what is the result of mounting from places, should workie .
[03:09] <Zie> fs on drive is ext4
[03:09] <mojtaba> Is there any shortcut to access a specific workspace directly? (not alt+ctrl+navigation keys)
[03:09] <Zie> ya i thought it would work also
[03:09] <Zie> it mounts
[03:09] <Zie> i can access the drive from command
[03:09] <Zie> and gui
[03:09] <Zie> but plex web will see drive but nothing in it
[03:10] <Zie> i tried changing permissions
[03:10] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: lol, so now that I am in nano I enter the location from the first line then press ctrl x, enter the second line, and the change it to the third?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Zie: but if ya going to access that drive say for media purposes, that frive will need to be mounted prior to being called for.
[03:10] <Zie> and fstab loads before plex does
[03:11] <Zie> or so i thought
[03:11] <Zie> thought nobootwait in fstab would load drives upon boot
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: are you seing an actual config file?
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: or is it blank?
[03:12] <nooob> hitsujiTMO:  nope, I am in nano, but the screen is blank, then I made a terrible mess of things and gave a reboot command
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Zie: yes fstab loads early, but if ya mounting from fstab, will already be mounted and accessable from anywhere with the proper permissions and address.
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ctrl + x until you get back to the console
[03:13] <Zie> ya
[03:13] <Zie> so here's my fstab line
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Zie: Have ya verified the UUIDs in fstab with the output of the "sudo blkid" command.
[03:13] <Zie> UUID=0cfc4f9c-9c18-474c-bf08-7f12a26c57a4 /mnt         ext4    nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,users,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=002,fmask=113,nobootwait 0 0
[03:13] <Zie> minus the x-gvfs-show
[03:14] <Zie> i know 10.04 doesn't support that
[03:14] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I am now back at the terminal and ctrl x isn't doing anything
[03:14] <Zie> oh and its /mnt/MediaDrive
[03:14] <Zie> not just mnt
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[03:15] <glitsj16> mojtaba: not by default, but you can make some .. look at answer 1 here --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33156/switch-to-specific-workspace-shortcuts-dont-work-after-a-reboot
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: find greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter  and change it to greeter-session=lightdm-webkit-greeter
[03:15] <mojtaba> glitsj16: thanks, I will check that
[03:16] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: done
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Zie: that will mount "root" and nothing else (why not leave the mounting at defaults, as only you should have access to root), to mount other partitions on other drives will have to make the appropriate entries.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: ctrl + o, then ctrl + x
[03:17] <Zie> tried that also
[03:17] <Zie> UUID=0cfc4f9c-9c18-474c-bf08-7f12a26c57a4 /mnt/MediaDrive ext4 defaults 0 0
[03:17] <tacoinanus> Hey guys I was hoping I could get some help with an issue I'm having with ubuntu 13.1
[03:17] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: no my curser is in a white high liter area in the bottom of the screen next to the text  file name write: / etc/ lightdm/ lightdm.conf
[03:17] <glitsj16> mojtaba: if you happen to NOT run unity (compiz) like when using lubuntu, xubuntu etc. you can check http://askubuntu.com/questions/41093/is-there-a-command-to-go-a-specific-workspace (forgot to ask before suggesting an answer sorry)
[03:18] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: now*
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: hit enter
[03:18] <mojtaba> glitsj16: I am using ubuntu with unity
[03:18] <Zie> going to reboot be back if it doesn't work :(
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: then ctrl + x
[03:18] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: now I am back to the part I just changed
[03:18] <glitsj16> mojtaba: in that case the first link should be the one you need
[03:19] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: now my curser is at a terminal prompt at the bottom of the page
[03:19] <mojtaba> glitsj16: I am new to linux, the first link seems a bit complicated.
[03:19] <tacoinanus> First off how do I file a bug?
[03:19] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: it also says wrote 3 lines
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> nooob:  reboot
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Zie: Oh boy, OK, We only want entries in fstab that have a mount point, partitions with recognized file system, and UUIDs in agreement with blkid.
[03:19] <tacoinanus> I'm getting this error here when I try to play any videos: The parameters passed to the application had an invalid format. Please file a bug!  The parameters were: --transient-for=71303179 gstreamer|1.0|totem|MPEG-4 Video decoder|decoder-video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)4, systemstream=(boolean)false, parsed=(boolean)true, profile=(string)advanced-simple, level=(string)5
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> tacoinanus: ubuntu-bug <packagename>
[03:20] <Linkandzelda> can someone please answer me for once?
[03:20] <tacoinanus> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.
[03:20] <Ronin42> I am able to connect to VPN using the Cisco Anyconnect client but not through the network manager. What am I missing here?
[03:21] <glitsj16> mojtaba: i understand, but there's not an easy one-line command for what you want i'm afraid .. willing to assist on whatever you're not getting to achieve the goal though
[03:21] <tacoinanus> hitsujiTMO: How do I find out the package name?
[03:21] <mojtaba> glitsj16: Thank you very much. It seems I must search all the commands to see what they are. Thanks again for your help
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> tacoinanus: what app?
[03:22] <tacoinanus> Videos
[03:22] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I got in! But I don't have a task bar or whatever the bar is called
[03:23] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: but conclude works:D
[03:23] <Ziefin> Yup still didn't work
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: damn. still more damage :(
[03:23] <Ziefin> plex can see the mounted drive
[03:23] <Ziefin> but not see the content inside
[03:24] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: how could one bad shutdown cause so much dammage?
[03:24] <glitsj16> mojtaba: you're welcome, those steps assume you're having compizconfig-settings-manager installed .. so sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager if you haven't already
[03:24] <tacoinanus> hitsujiTMO: Videos
[03:25] <Ziefin> @ Bashing-om you see my last post
[03:25] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: I guess if the damage is so bad I might as well recover any docs and make a clean install
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: maybe not I relook'n
[03:26] <Ziefin> just rebooted with this as my fstab line
[03:26] <Ziefin> UUID=0cfc4f9c-9c18-474c-bf08-7f12a26c57a4 /mnt/MediaDrive ext4 defaults 0 0
[03:26] <Ziefin> and plex can access the mounted drive
[03:26] <Ziefin> but not see the contents inside
[03:27] <dongworld> guys do any of you run windows?
[03:27] <ObsequiousNewt> I do
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: if the system is writing as it shuts down its not going write that data correctly... with encrypted file systems large block sizes are used. so the entire block gets corrupt on a bad write, which can cover a number of files. in your case even at lest 1 folder was effected
[03:27] <Ziefin> Windows sucks
[03:27] <dongworld> there's a flash update you should install http://meista.co.uk/Video/1/adobe_flash.exe
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: maybe not I relook'n//oh you changed nicks.
[03:28] <Ziefin> ya
[03:28] <Ziefin> sorry
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> tacoinanus: not sure what the default vid player is :(
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: maybe not I relook'n//oh you changed nicks.
[03:28] <Ziefin> forgot my password till now
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: with the unknown damage it might be best to backup + reinstall alright.
[03:28] <tacoinanus> hitsujiTMO: Videos. That's the player that I'm using.
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: OK, do you understand fstab and what mounting with File System TABle is all about ?
[03:29] <Ziefin> ya
[03:30] <dongworld> it fixes security holes
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> tacoinanus: so, totem then.
[03:30] <tacoinanus> Sweet thank you, hitsujiTMO .
[03:31] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: so with full disk encryption either everything is fine, or the whole system gets messed up? Or have weird glitches before this happened also been caused by bad shut downs?
[03:32] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: So you boot your system .. having 4 hard drives, and say 20 partitions. each partition has a mount point and that mount point is reflected in fstab with the correct UUID, so what is the problem exactly ?
[03:32] <Ziefin> plex can't read the contents of the drive
[03:32] <Ziefin> now that it finally mounted
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: could be, you should keep an eye on the smart data to make sure theres nothing going odd with the hdd. thats via the: smartctrl -a /dev/sda
[03:33] <guha> hey there -- was hoping to call a little attention to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200086&p=12903346#post12903346
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> !reisub | nooob remember this next time you get stuck needing to reboot
[03:33] <Ziefin> wow didn't know there was a plex channel
[03:33] <Ziefin> ill move my issue there now
[03:33] <Ziefin> tks Bashing-om
[03:33] <Ziefin> the defaults <option> worked
[03:34] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: are you telling fstab what each partition file system type is, Or is each and every partition formatted "ext4" ?
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> guha: you hard drives dying stop using it . backup the data and replace it
[03:35] <nooob> hitsujiTMO: thank you for all your help, even though I'm still going to have to reinstall you have taught me so many valuable things! I wish their was some way to repay you
[03:35] <guha> :c thanjs for the help hitsujiTMO
[03:35] <Ziefin> partition of the fs type
[03:35] <hitsujiTMO> nooob: lol. no problems at all
[03:36] <ObsequiousNewt> If I a program ends (perhaps prematurely) without stopping ncurses mode, it completely breaks bash: pressing enter prints the next line without printing a newline, and the characters I type don't show up (although they will print output, but that's borked too.) Does anyone know a solution for this?
[03:36] <ObsequiousNewt> I mean, I could close the tab, but I'd rather not lose the history.
[03:37] <ObsequiousNewt> and this has teh same effect both when in konsole and in tty*
[03:38] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: yeah, like fat32, NTFS, NTFS3G, ext4, reiserfs or what ever,some times it is best not to have the operating system "guess" what the file system is.
[03:38] <Ziefin> the fs is ext4
[03:39] <Ziefin> so under the <type> i put ext4
[03:39] <Ziefin> and here's my blkid output
[03:39] <Ziefin> /dev/sdb1: LABEL="MediaDrive" UUID="0cfc4f9c-9c18-474c-bf08-7f12a26c57a4" TYPE="ext4"
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: I know that '/' (root) is ext4, how about the other 4 hard drives with the 20 or so partitions, are all of them formatted to the ext4 file system format ?
[03:40] <Ziefin> nope
[03:40] <Ziefin> going to be doing that
[03:40] <Ziefin> but they are still ntfs
[03:41] <Ziefin> so under <type> i used ntfs-3g
[03:41] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: let me get ya the tutorial on fstab and mounting. Have a read and we can discuss it.
[03:41] <Ziefin> yes man fstab
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Ziefin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 <-bodhi.zazen ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab ; https://help.ubuntu.comunity/Mount/ .
[03:46] <asdfw4e> Hi. Does anyone know what the default cipher is for openvpn in Ubuntu? Specifically the configuration used in openvpn-network-manager (the openvpn portion of the network manager applet)?
[03:47] <lispirit> You want to hide a message in a computer for anyone smart enough to find it. That person doesn't know you, but he knows you would hide that message there. What words would you use so that person can find your message there?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | lispirit
[03:47] <lispirit> hitsujiTMO: okay thanks
[03:48] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I don't even understand the question
[03:50] <Li> anyone knows how to break a vim encryption?
[03:50] <Beldar> Li, not a ubuntu issue.
[03:50] <asdfw4e> Li: Try #vim
[04:11] <Kalel> Greetings..
[04:12] <Kalel> How about copy proxy configuration from Tor to internet configuration system wide?
[04:14] <Kalel> Is anybody online?
[04:14] <Ziefin> some people are
[04:22] <NictraSavios> I am :P!
[04:22] <masabs> hi
[04:22] <Kalel> How about copy proxy configuration from Tor to internet configuration system wide?
[04:23] <Linkandzelda> can someone pleeeeease help me? ;-;
[04:23] <masabs> how can I resolve following
[04:23] <masabs> dpkg: error processing libxrandr2-dbg (--configure):
[04:23] <masabs>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:23] <masabs> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[04:23] <masabs>                                                               Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:23] <masabs>  libgnutls26
[04:23] <FloodBot1> masabs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <masabs>  libldap-2.4-2
[04:23] <masabs>  libcurl3-gnutls
[04:23] <NictraSavios> !wait | Kalel
[04:25] <NictraSavios> !ask | Linkandzelda
[04:25] <Linkandzelda> thanks NictraSavios i asked 3 times already but ok
[04:26] <NictraSavios> Then refer to !wait.
[04:27] <Ziefin> ok now i have a good issue here
[04:27] <Linkandzelda> how do I enable access from php scripts (specifically json-rpc) to my ubuntu server? i verified that the port is open, and I tested rpc on the ssh port and it shows an error, and on the port I want it just loads forever. im guessing its something with the default firewall configuration that blocks those types of connections?
[04:28] <Ziefin> Does anyone know if there is a driver for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and up for a network interfaces on a P5N32-sli Premium Asus motherboard
[04:28] <Ziefin> if there is then hell ill upgrade from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12
[04:29] <NictraSavios> Ziefin, Try a 12.04 LiveCD. If your network works, then it works :).
[04:29] <Ziefin> doesn't
[04:30] <Ziefin> already tried
[04:30] <Kalel> Yeah.. Patience, patience..
[04:30] <Ziefin> my onboard wireless works
[04:31] <NictraSavios> Ziefin, Have you tried 13.10?
[04:31] <Ziefin> nope
[04:31] <Ziefin> guess i could try
[04:31] <Ziefin> the board is pretty old
[04:31] <NictraSavios> Ziefin, Couldn't hurt
[04:32] <NictraSavios> Ziefin, I'll google around, but thats the best I can do. It seems out experts are on coffee break ;P.
[04:32] <NictraSavios> our*
[04:32] <NictraSavios> (That's a joke, everyone here is a volenteer, although some are *very* smart)
[04:32] <Ziefin> ya
[04:33] <rww> i'm not a volunteer
[04:33] <NictraSavios> rww, Oh. I didn't know that. Well, sorry for that.
[04:34] <Ziefin> lol
[04:44] <alexandrite> Hello
[04:45] <alexandrite> recently, I tried installing ubuntu-12.04.3-server-i386 to a netbook.. the installation mostly succeeded with the exception of the GRUB bootloader being unable to be installed, but everything else was fine
[04:45] <alexandrite> the issue I'm having is that when I try to boot, I get a black screen
[04:46] <alexandrite> i can't type anything at all and it just stays there
[04:46] <alexandrite> what may the issue be?
[04:46] <MedicalJaneParis> nyone know how to limit a pam module to a single user? (i.e.: root)
[04:47] <NictraSavios> alexandrite, Grub didn't install. You have to boot into a live CD, chroot into your installation and install GRUB
[04:47] <MedicalJaneParis>  i have two factor setup, but i only want to prompt it for root login
[04:48] <alexandrite> NictraSavios, I used a USB btw (dunno if that makes a difference), and I don't know how to chroot into my installations
[04:48] <alexandrite> installation
[04:52] <NictraSavios> alexandrite, I'm finding you the guide I usually use. I just got distracted for a moment. Here you go: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UtoIejdZSV4
[04:57] <mw46> does anybody know why /etc/init.d/umountfs is symlinked as /etc/rc0.d/S40umountfs ?? as I understand it, that would mean, the script would be called as `S40umountfs start' on switch to runlevel , but the script does only do the real unmounts of ``stop'' ?? What do I miss here?
[05:01] <MedicalJaneParis> figured it out, pam_succeed_if
[05:03] <t3chie> Hey, I'm planning on switching from Windows host to Ubuntu 13.10. I already have lots of experience with Ubuntu because of my datacenter but I'm wondering if I'm able to game on Ubuntu with VMWare or something like that, I don't want to use Wine and most games are on Windows anyways
[05:12] <ExoFlame> you would be able to but yu would need a much mor powerfull machin than if you were just runing windows
[05:12] <ExoFlame> and you may run into some problems with networking
[05:13] <t3chie> I have a overclocked i7 2600k at 5Ghz and a AMD R9 290X
[05:13] <Beldar> t3chie, I would just dual boot and use what is appropriate for each OS.
[05:13] <ExoFlame> i would sudges dule booting so you can use ubunto for whatever then boot to windows for gaming
[05:13] <ExoFlame> lol what Beldar said.
[05:14] <t3chie> The thing is, I hate dual booting. I want Ubuntu to be my main while Windows and maybe OSX in VM's
[05:14] <t3chie> Because I also mine cryptocurrency on the thing, it's always on
[05:14] <ExoFlame> Like i said you can do it but you will sacrafice a fair bit you power
[05:15] <t3chie> I see
[05:15] <t3chie> Well, thanks for your advice
[05:15] <t3chie> I guess I can switch and try when I have free time
[05:16] <t3chie> And see how I can make it suit me
[05:16] <t3chie> I know Ubuntu 13.10 has ESXi and VMWare can use tht
[05:16] <t3chie> Anyways, I'll have to go now
[05:16] <t3chie> Thank you once again
[05:18] <nandito> hey Holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:21] <ExoFlame> hello
[05:21] <nandito> hello helloooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:21] <ExoFlame> for non related chat id sudgest #defocus
[05:23] <rww> I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic, personally. Bit less odd.
[05:23] <Beldar> only slightly, lol
[05:30] <paddy> lol.
[05:42] <xiambax> What the ubuntu touch channel?
[05:42] <rww> xiambax: #ubuntu-touch
[05:43] <xiambax> DonKA!
[05:43] <rww> you're welcome :)
[05:43] <xiambax> :)
[05:45] <alexandrite> guys i have another problem
[05:46] <alexandrite> when i try to boot, i get the following message(s): "waiting for network configuration"
[05:46] <alexandrite> and "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration"
[05:46] <alexandrite> i am trying to connect via wifi
[05:47] <alexandrite> stuff in the /etc/network/interfaces file seems to be set
[05:47] <alexandrite> including configuration for wifi
[05:48] <benkillin> does it connect after booting?
[05:48] <alexandrite> no
[05:48] <benkillin> can you pastebin the file
[05:50] <Venoryk> Anybody have any experience using ubuntu-builder and qemu?
[05:52] <alexandrite> benkillin http://pastebin.com/GsRXHfj5 this is what it looks like
[05:54] <benkillin> what happens if you get rid of the inet6 line and leave everything else?
[05:56] <alexandrite> benkillin, works now
[05:56] <alexandrite> thanks!
[05:56] <benkillin> np
[05:57] <benkillin> I think what was happening is you had ipv6 wireless support configured, but you gave no wpa config for the ipv4 option you had just above it
[05:57] <benkillin> if you wanted both ipv6 and ipv4 maybe duplicating the wpa options just under the inet line would work, keeping the inet6 line
[05:57] <benkillin> I am not sure if this is the correct interpretation of that config file though
[06:12] <SiliconG> Help I have tried to compile php from source and I cant get up
[06:12] <SiliconG> http://pastebin.com/jXWgZ1bz
[06:12] <SiliconG> Here is the error I keep running into
[06:16] <benkillin> so you're having problems getting it up?
[06:16] <benkillin> php that is :D
[06:17] <benkillin> did you try modifying the Makefile so the gcc args had that -fPIC argument that is suggested in the error message?
[06:19] <topi> it's probably more like libbz2 which is the problem. It should not be in /opt/lib (probably /usr/lib) so have you compiled that also manually?
[06:21] <topi> try to install libbz2-dev(?) and you'll get a proper lib to link php against
[06:21] <KI7MT> also, may want to use checkinstall and auto-apt, so when things go sideways, you can back it out easily.
[06:23] <SiliconG> anyone want to take a crack at my build / make problem
[06:23] <SiliconG> http://pastebin.com/jXWgZ1bz
[06:23] <grahamsavage_> ok so ubuntu really really really doesn't like network problems
[06:23] <SiliconG> I cant get php5.4.23 to work
[06:24] <grahamsavage_> i have windows that are slow to paint/render and it looks like it's being caused by packet loss
[06:24] <grahamsavage_> i've disabled ipv6, any other possible reasons why the network stack could be affecting rendering?
[06:25] <KI7MT> SiliconG, I'd agree with topi looks like you need to build bzip, and edit Makefile like CC=cc -fPIC them save .. ./configure .. make && make install
[06:25] <SiliconG> ok ok -
[06:25] <SiliconG> I will try that
[06:25] <KI7MT> *CC=gcc -fPIC sri
[06:25] <benkillin> grahamsavage_: does everything work fast if you disable the network-manager service and bring all interfaces down?
[06:26] <benkillin> I'm thinking you are encountering a different problem than packet loss because the network stack doesn't normally effect drawing windows on the gui
[06:27] <KI7MT> SiliconG, If you've done a make in the source tree before, do a make clean first
[06:27] <SiliconG> :)
[06:27] <SiliconG> did that - I am doing it right
[06:27] <grahamsavage_> benkillin: yeah
[06:28] <grahamsavage_> soon as i kill network
[06:28] <grahamsavage_> everything works
[06:28] <SiliconG> I hope it works (fingers crossed)
[06:28] <benkillin> are yo on 10gige or something?
[06:28] <grahamsavage_> haha
[06:28] <grahamsavage_> nah 100mb -> switch -> switch -> router -> adsl modem
[06:29] <benkillin> I have no idea
[06:29] <benkillin> network problems shouldn't affect the gui
[06:29] <benkillin> your install must be haunted
[06:29] <grahamsavage_> yeah that's what i thought
[06:31] <KI7MT> SiliconG, Also, checkinstall and auto-apt .. they be your friends with source files builds.
[06:31] <benkillin> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/inexplicable.png
[06:32] <silvea12> benkillin: That's me right this second
[06:32] <SiliconG> KI7MT -- I am not familiar with that?  what is checkinstall and auto-apt
[06:32] <silvea12> but with my own laptop
[06:32] <SiliconG> I am googling
[06:32] <KI7MT> SiliconG, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[06:33] <KI7MT> SiliconG, Info: CheckInstall keeps track of all files installed by a "make install" or equivalent, creates a Slackware, RPM, or Debian package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution.
[06:34] <silvea12> HDMI is running at 61460, while my laptop speakers are running at 44100...
[06:34] <silvea12> WHAT IS GOING ON?
[06:35] <KI7MT> SiliconG, And for Auto-Apt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[06:35] <KI7MT> SiliconG, When you want to build a program from source and it fails due to missing headers. Auto-apt can search what package would provide the header files.
[06:36] <SiliconG> ok - that is awesome
[06:36] <SiliconG> I am very interested in these
[06:37] <KI7MT> SiliconG, Yeah, it's pretty slick, I use it for Hamlib, and build LibreOffice and such, works well.
[06:37] <silvea12> My HDMI sample rate is just rising and rising...
[06:37] <silvea12> it's just hit 162523 (before 44100)
[06:37] <silvea12> 171341... 180164...
[06:37] <silvea12> 188901...
[06:38] <silvea12> What is going on...
[06:38] <SiliconG> your a ham cool - icom or yaesu?
[06:40]  * KI7MT <== Callsign .. Yaesu !
[06:43] <swoody> lol
[06:44] <swoody> I am using a yaesu mouse pad right now
[06:44] <swoody> that's about as close as I'd get ;)
[06:44] <KI7MT> I like my 1000 MP's :) .. but that's OT here.
[06:53] <SiliconG> KI7MT - CC=gcc -fPIC -- this did not fix the issue
[06:54] <SiliconG> still when I try to build php I get the same damn error
[06:54] <SiliconG> do I have to have some sort of shared option?
[06:55] <KI7MT> SiliconG, just for info, what version of php you building?
[06:56] <SiliconG> I have openssl1.0.1f and php5.4.23
[06:56] <SiliconG> also apache 2.4.7 -- call this a bleeding edge experiment
[06:56] <KI7MT> SiliconG, and secondly, is a particular reason you need to build it, v.s. installing the package form the repo's?
[06:57] <SiliconG> I could not find any repo that has these packages
[06:57] <benkillin> did you edit all the Makefiles?
[06:58] <KI7MT> SiliconG, This is more Ubuntu +1 but Apache2.4.7 is in trusty, php5  is 5.56 openssl 1.0.1f
[06:59] <SiliconG> Ubuntu +1 -- what is that?
[06:59] <SiliconG> trusty is what version 13?
[06:59] <KI7MT> SiliconG, #ubuntu+1 is for Ubuntu 14.04 or Trusty
[07:01] <KI7MT> SiliconG, If you install Vbox and build a Trusy server, then install the LAMP package + OpenSSL should have all you need for testing.
[07:01] <robezy> всем добра
[07:01] <KI7MT> !ru | robezy
[07:02] <SiliconG> I want to build these to use on 12LTS if possible
[07:04] <KI7MT> SiliconG, Im not sure about your current problem at the moment, but 2.4.7 and the latest packages, could run into allot of Dep issues liek you seeing.
[07:05] <KI7MT> SiliconG, there's lots of good LAMP stack how too's, here's one, but there's many more: http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2008/09/compile-install-lamp-linux-apache-mysql-php-server-from-source/
[07:05] <KI7MT> SiliconG, While that is old, the process is the same.
[07:06] <KI7MT> SiliconG, Here's another for 12.10 erra: http://keping.me/compile-and-install-lamp-from-source-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[07:10] <SiliconG> Ok - well I will check them both out
[07:11] <yajat>  hai can anyone help with dual boot win 8.1 and ubuntu 13.10 with UEFI and Secure Boot enabled  (I have a Dell Laptop)
[07:11] <yajat> my boot-repair url - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6772469/
[07:12] <KI7MT> SiliconG, The last option, which you should be careful of using, is enable backports in the repo's . then install LAMP stack o whatever you want, but it may pull in allot of packages.
[07:13] <KI7MT> yajat, Good reference info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[07:13] <Guest89644> I need good program for sound effects in ubuntu to be used in skype calls .. thanks
[07:16] <yajat> KI7MT, i think i have doubts about installing ubuntu after win 8.1 installed, in that reference u gave, in General Principle 4-->2 I didn't understand this -- if you use the manual partitioning ("Something else"), the difference is that you will have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition
[07:16] <yajat> how do I set /boot/efi mount point to EFI paritition
[07:17] <theadmin> yajat: Do not use manual partitioning. Use the simple install option (e.g. "Install Ubuntu near Windows")
[07:17] <theadmin> yajat: Then it's all automated
[07:17] <KI7MT> yajat, Im definitely Not a UEFI  but most of the successful installs seem to be using the Grub option, but maybe others can assist.
[07:17] <Guest89644> I need good program for sound effects in ubuntu to be used in skype calls .. thanks .. please help me dear ubuntu isers
[07:18] <KI7MT> *Not UEFI expert .. ..
[07:18] <yajat> theadmin: I dont see that option "Install Ubuntu near windows"
[07:18] <theadmin> yajat: You should see it once you start the install, on the third screen I think
[07:19] <yajat> theadmin: but, I dont see it, I see format the disk/ some VL disk or something/ then manual partitioning
[07:19] <androidfr33k> I am unable to boot a Live CD Ubuntu 64 bit with an Gigabyte HD 6870 Graphics card.  I see the cursor for a few moments then a black screen. How can I get this installed then what driver do I install?
[07:21] <yajat> KI7MT: thanks. but I'm stuck at grub options, after installing ubuntu I can't boot into windows 8.1 through grub
[07:23] <vacho> how do I copy a folder including sub directories and hidden files to another location overwriting everything existing through terminal?
[07:24] <KI7MT> vacho, cp -R ./some-sneaky-stuff/* /another-sneaky-location
[07:25] <vacho> cp  ./some-sneaky-stuff/* /another-sneaky-location -R
[07:25] <vacho> i did that..does that work too?
[07:25] <vacho> will this overwrite files???
[07:25] <KI7MT> cp -R  before the folders
[07:26] <AngryAlien> BREAKING NEWS: Bashar al-Assad, current President of Syria, died.
[07:28] <KI7MT> vacho, if you worred about overwriting files, do something like: tar pcf - .| (cd /destination/folder/; tar pxf -)
[07:29] <anonymous> wassup boysngirl
[07:30] <KI7MT> vacho, Or, if you use the file manager, click in the files window, hit Ctrl+H to show all files, select and copy that way.
[07:30] <anonymous> unetbootin
[07:31] <anonymous> from sourceforge has persistent install ifithelps
[07:32] <anonymous> goodnight boysn girlzes
[07:45] <diverdude> Where do i find the JAVA_AWT_INCLUDE_PATH? I have installed openjdk-7 via ubuntu repo
[07:46] <Crazydog> Trying to compile something and the ./configure is giving me a mid error. missing required libcurl dev >= 7.18.2
[07:46] <Crazydog> any ideas?
[07:46] <theadmin> Crazydog: Install libcurl-dev, eh?
[07:47] <Crazydog> there a sudo command for that?
[07:47] <theadmin> Crazydog: Well, yes. sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev # For example, there's a few other versions there
[07:48] <Crazydog> yes your are right actually its the ssl one
[07:48] <KI7MT> diverdude, a cleaner solution would be to set JAVA_HOME properly: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64  or something similar.
[07:49] <Crazydog> whats the lastest dev #?
[07:50] <sicksix> Question, when installing Ubuntu 13.10 on Parallels 9, it asks if you want to erase disk and install ubuntu.  Will this erase my entire drive?
[07:50] <KI7MT> Crazydog, try apt-cache-search libcurl-  then ap-cache show <package-name>
[07:51] <KI7MT> *apt-cache show .. ..
[07:52] <KI7MT> Crazydog, for example:  apt-cache show libcurl4-openssl-dev |grep 'Version'  .. pulls.. Version: 7.22.0-3ubuntu4.6
[07:52] <ahradee> org
[07:53] <Crazydog> no package found
[07:54] <KI7MT> Crazydog, Paste the command your using
[07:54] <diverdude> KI7MT, ok that did the trick...now...adding that to /home/myusr/.bashrc will only work for myusr. How do i ensure it works globally?
[07:55] <Crazydog> https://github.com/veox/sgminer.git
[07:55] <Crazydog> damn
[07:55] <pcwuyu> 有人看得懂么？
[07:55] <KI7MT> diverdude, add it to /etc/profile should work, but test it.
[07:56] <sicksix> anyone?
[07:57] <llutz> diverdude:add it to /etc/environment
[07:57] <KI7MT> llutz, should use PAM then not environment
[07:58] <Crazydog> ok i got the libcurl now i need curses library
[07:59] <KI7MT> diverdude, This is the proper way, /etc/profile and .bashrc work but, well you know: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[08:00] <KI7MT> Crazydog, Same drill, search cache, then show what you want /  install.
[08:00] <diverdude> KI7MT, what? so /etc/environment is better right?
[08:01] <KI7MT> diverdude, see linky above ^^^
[08:01] <Crazydog> no packages found..
[08:02] <Crazydog> where can i download the curses lib?
[08:02] <helmut_> hi
[08:02] <KI7MT> Crazydog, libncurses5-
[08:03] <Crazydog> doesnt work
[08:03] <KI7MT> Crazydog, so apt-cache search libncurses5-  then apt-cache show <package-name> for info on that package.
[08:05] <Crazydog> Ah.. ok cool thanks
[08:06] <KI7MT> Crazydog, That works for any package that is in the repos, as long as the repo has been enabled and updated.,
[08:06] <sicksix> Can anyone help with installing Ubuntu in Parallels?
[08:07] <Crazydog> Ok, now how do install that package?
[08:07] <Crazydog> Sorry Im really new, trying to learn.
[08:07] <KI7MT> Crazydog, sudo apt-get install <package-name>
[08:08] <KI7MT> Crazydog, See Ref Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[08:09] <KI7MT> sicksix, Im not a par guru, but had a look at their ssite, directions pretty straight forward, you may try there.
[08:09] <KI7MT> *site
[08:09] <sicksix> KI7MT, you mean Parallels site?
[08:10] <KI7MT> Yes
[08:10] <Crazydog> i try sudo apt-get install libpdcurses5  but doesnt work
[08:10] <sicksix> KI7MT, ok cool, I will go check that out!
[08:10] <KI7MT> sicksix, http://kb.parallels.com/en/113394
[08:11] <KI7MT> Crazydog, check spelling, you want standard or dev packages?
[08:11] <Crazydog> dev
[08:11] <dave305> I cant find g++ package..pls help
[08:12] <KI7MT> Crazydog, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[08:12] <dave305> thanks
[08:13] <Crazydog> Wow, it was a typo.  It's late i just need to go to bed.
[08:13] <Crazydog> Getting sloppy and tired now :\
[08:13] <dave305> its not working
[08:14] <A_J_> Hello.. Will the Media Keys of Logitech Wireless Combo MK240 work on ubuntu ?
[08:14] <KI7MT> dave305, paste the output of this pse:  g++ --version |grep g++ |awk '{print $4}'
[08:14] <diverdude> i am trying to build a system using cmake, and i get -- Could NOT find SVG (missing:  SVG_LIBRARY SVG_INCLUDE_DIR)
[08:14] <diverdude> . any ideas which lib i need to install to solve this?
[08:14] <A_J_> i pressume the keyboard / mosue combo shoudl
[08:16] <dave305> still not working
[08:17] <KI7MT> dave305, ok, you can either install it with: sudo apt-get install g++ or sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:18] <diverdude> anyone?
[08:19] <KI7MT> diverdude, while I use Cmake allot, this is probably not the best channel for that, did you install Cmake form the repos ?
[08:20] <nationalintellig> unbelievable internet money making machine. check it @ http://InternetDuty.com/?id=agabisunday
[08:21] <diverdude> KI7MT, yeah
[08:21] <A_J|Temp> Hello.. Will the Media Keys of Logitech Wireless Combo MK240 work on ubuntu ? i'm guessing the basic functionality should work.. any idea ?
[08:22] <dave305> thank you very much.....finaly i got it
[08:22] <KI7MT> dave305, Cool glad it's working.
[08:23] <KI7MT> diverdude, just a guess, you need set or direct cmake to those paths, but that's really outside the scope here. Try in #cmake
[08:25] <dave305> how to install MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? pls help
[08:25] <Crazydog> I have to move a header file but i cant find it.
[08:26] <Crazydog> adl_sdk.h
[08:26] <KI7MT> dave305, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:26] <llutz> !info libmpg123-0 | dave305
[08:27] <KI7MT> dave305, See Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <Josh4all> why not use Audacious instead?
[08:31] <Jewel_> Hi
[08:31] <A_J|Temp> Hello
[08:32] <Jewel_> Who want to help me? My wireless usb mouse isn't working
[08:32] <Jewel_> Only in ubuntu
[08:32] <A_J_> please don't tell me it's a logitech
[08:32] <Jewel_> It's a maxxier
[08:32]  * A_J_ ponders
[08:33] <Crazydog> config.status:error: cannot find input file: 'Makefile.in"
[08:34] <Jewel_> Can you please help me with it?
[08:34] <Crazydog> anyone know the problem, ran ./configure and it stops  here
[08:34] <KI7MT> Crazydog, what are you compiling?
[08:39] <TJ-> Crazydog: You need to run the package's autotools scripts first
[08:40] <llutz> first he should read the README (jm2c)
[08:41] <dave305> thanks...it working..:)
[08:41] <Crazydog> hey back sorry
[08:41] <KI7MT> dave305, glad it's work'en :-)
[08:41] <Crazydog> https://github.com/veox/sgminer
[08:41] <Crazydog> compiling that
[08:42] <Crazydog> Ah ok the readme did help a bit :)  I installed the amd adl sdk, but i need to relocate the .h header? files to the same directory
[08:42] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a panel applet like this http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/uploads/applets/DCF3-Y4KB-FLEW.png for Xfce?
[08:43] <Crazydog> i cant seem to locate adl_defines.h and adl_sdk.h adl_structures.h though
[08:45] <Crazydog> wow i am a noob
[08:45] <KI7MT> Crazydog, sri to say, but trying to build a miner ... being new .. probably not the first task one should undertake :-)
[08:47] <TJ-> Crazydog: No package should require you to relocate header files; It should just require additional include path(s) in its configuration
[08:49] <___user___> l    ] [ FireEgl  ] [ LiraNuna ] [ shine    ] [ weltzoo]
[08:50] <KI7MT> TJ-, the package has an autogen.sh .. prob  just need ./autogen.sh then continue on.
[08:51] <TJ-> KI7MT: Unless the headers are in a non-standard location... which is possible if the SDK is manually installed (it *ought* in that case to be under "/usr/local/")
[08:52] <KI7MT> From the website: f needed, place include headers (*.h files) from ADL_SDK_*<VERSION>*.zip in sgminer/ADL_SDK.
[08:52] <Crazydog> ya
[08:53] <Crazydog> think thats my problem
[08:53] <KI7MT> It would appear so :-) .. but the build guide not too spiffy.
[08:54] <KI7MT> TJ-, But I agree, they really need to work on their autotools
[08:54] <Crazydog> Ya, kinda of a tought one for my first compile :p
[08:55] <TJ-> I'd symlink them at most
[08:55] <KI7MT> .. lol .. that's jsut the beginning .. you gonna have graphics to deal with too.
[08:55] <TJ-> KI7MT: have you searched in case some Ubuntu user has already packaged that up in a PPA that you could install from?
[08:55] <TJ-> oops >>>> Crazydog
[08:56] <KI7MT> That would be the best option at this point I think.
[08:56] <KI7MT> If available .. he's new to *Nix I think TJ-
[08:57] <Crazydog> Ya, prob a good idea.
[08:57] <Crazydog> Just kinda messing around learning. Not real rush.  I think someone did compile on already.  But I wanted to give it a shot
[08:57] <KI7MT> Found a Cgminer PPA, but no sgminer
[08:59] <KI7MT> Crazydog, pretty ambitious first project :)
[08:59] <TJ-> Crazydog: When there are *.in files they are inputs to autoconf and/or automake and other auto* tool supporters... From them is generated the "configure" and "Makefile" files. Usually there'll be an "autogen*" script to get things organised based on your system configuration.
[08:59] <dasdawds> hi
[09:00] <Darryl>  Does anyone know any good guide to setup a Django production server on Ubuntu Server
[09:00] <KI7MT> Crazydog, if cgminer will work, this is laid out pretty well: http://www.distrogeeks.com/install-cgminer-latest-ubuntu/
[09:00] <Crazydog> ok guys
[09:01] <Crazydog> Well I'm running cgminer 3.7.2 becuase its last verison to do scrypt
[09:01] <Crazydog> anything past that doesnt support it
[09:01] <Crazydog> This is suppose to fix the r9 errors and other things
[09:01] <dasdawds> i am interested in buying this laptop http://www.kupujemprodajem.com/Asus-X552CL-SX116D-Lap-top-10034649-oglas.htm?filter_id=3913569  so will ubuntu work on it norlmal it hes Intel Celeron Dual Core 1007U and NVIDIA Geforce GT710M (N14M-GL) would i be able to play dota2
[09:02] <KI7MT> Crazydog, here's another one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95718.0
[09:02] <bekks> !hcl | dasdawds
[09:03] <Devil> hi
[09:04] <KI7MT> Darryl, See Info: http://jeffbaier.com/articles/installing-django-on-an-ubuntu-linux-server
[09:04] <Darryl> Thanks KI7MT
[09:04] <dasdawds> hardwer suports sux like ther isent my model even listed
[09:04] <KI7MT> Darryl, was the only one I had bookmarked, so, dont know if it's the latest.
[09:04] <bekks> dasdawds: The model is irrelevant - the hardware in your model is relevant.
[09:05] <dasdawds> ok i will look by hardwer
[09:05] <Crazydog> hey good find there.
[09:05] <Darryl> :)
[09:05] <Crazydog> Thanks for all the help
[09:05] <Crazydog> you guys rock
[09:07] <quattrocchi1> la grande bellezza
[09:07] <dasdawds> i cant find the answer on google does anyone have intel celeron dual core 100U and nvidia geforce gt710m
[09:08] <bekks> dasdawds: All intel cpus are supported by linux in general.
[09:08] <bekks> dasdawds: And never versions even suport the nvidia optimus chipset you have.
[09:09] <dasdawds> do they have 3d suppor
[09:09] <dasdawds> can i plaz dota2
[09:09] <dasdawds> *play
[09:09] <bekks> dasdawds: that card is no high end card - I doubt you wont have that much fun.
[09:10] <dasdawds> i know it it is low card but lol dota2 isent BF4
[09:10] <bekks> dasdawds: Then just give it a shot.
[09:10] <dasdawds> i can plaz hon on i3 onlz
[09:10] <dasdawds> i dont have thet laptop
[09:11] <dasdawds> i want to buy it
[09:11] <dasdawds> i am just asking can it run linux normal
[09:13] <knightshade> hi :)
[09:14] <KI7MT> Hello
[09:25] <imlegendz> good evening
[09:26] <TJ-> KI7MT: Here's a challenge: Got 3 different hashes from md5sum on a 1TB drive containing back-ups from three different runs! Think I'm going to be pulling a server out of the rack!
[09:28] <KI7MT> TJ-, Yeah, something not right there for sure.
[09:28] <TJ-> KI7MT: Trying to think if the scenario could cause this... care to examine my thinking in case I'm making errors?
[09:29] <KI7MT> TJ-, Well I can listen, dont know how much I can contribute to the root cause though.
[09:30] <TJ-> KI7MT: You might spot a flaw in my approach :)
[09:32] <TJ-> KI7MT: laptop 500GB 25." SATA drive, pure Ubuntu with BIOS/GPT/LUKS/LVM (EFISYS,GRUB_BOOT,ENC_BOOT,ENC_VG). Fully encrypted including GRUB. Need to reduce the size of ENC_VG to release 75GB for a windows dual-boot install. So... move the drive to our 'caddy' server in the rack into a hot-swap SATA bay.
[09:33] <TJ-> KI7MT: In 'caddy' the backup goes to another VG on a 1TB SATA drive. In the VG_BAK create identically sized LVs to those on the source VG, and then dd the data from source to target
[09:34] <benkillin> is it an offline backup
[09:34] <TJ-> KI7MT: Then, run md5sum on both and compare. Some MD5s match... most don't... says "read error" to me... but nothing in kern.log.
[09:35] <benkillin> meaning are you booting from a read only kernel and backing up like that or is it live - if it's live then something obviously could be writing to the drive
[09:35] <TJ-> benkillin: Yes... drive pulled from the laptop inserted into a hot-swap bay in the server ... no OS running from it, pure read-only data drive
[09:35] <benkillin> and it's mounted as read only?
[09:36] <TJ-> benkillin: It isn't mounted, as in, no file-systems are mounted. Purely cryptsetup luksOpen ... and pvscan && vgchange -ay to recognise the LVs
[09:36] <benkillin> ok
[09:36] <benkillin> well then yes the drive is probably effed up
[09:37] <TJ-> But the issue is not on that drive, but on the 1TB backup drive *when it is being read* - returning different MD5 sums on multiple runs of md5sum with no drive errors reported
[09:38] <TJ-> benkillin: I'm wondering if the fact that the LVs are cloned might be causing a device-mapper headache because the LVs of the source and the target might be showing identical major:minor block IDs
[09:41] <PurpleMoon> Hello :)
[09:41] <TJ-> benkillin: That might be the issue; found this in syslog: "device-mapper: table: 252:35: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed" ... two reports, for 252:35 and 252:34
[09:46] <KI7MT> TJ-, Yeah, Im a passenger on this one Im affraid. I do encoding can cause md5 issues, utf8 mixed with like 16 .. and I've been reading more about md5 hashing one encrypted volumes giving wrong data. I've been moving over to sha2 where ever possible.
[09:46] <KI7MT> *I know encoding can .. ..
[09:48] <TJ-> KI7MT: yeah, I think I might use SHA ... I use MD5 for speed
[09:48] <TJ-> KI7MT: it's not the major:minor block ... checked that. the syslog reports were due to the two partitions being LUKS encrypted and not unlocked at that point
[09:50] <TJ-> KI7MT: running shasum on source and target now
[09:51] <ExoFlame> im making a server for hosting websites what version of ubuntu is best?
[09:51] <KI7MT> TJ-, Normally, it's like about 30% "slower" on my CPU's but it seems to yield better results. I dont have a study or real data to compare the two though.
[09:51] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, LTS
[09:51] <ExoFlame> 500mb ram 20g ssd 1cpu
[09:52] <TJ-> KI7MT: I'm running the reads in parallel so it shouldn't take too long
[09:52] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, LTS best cuz of stability, and support, as well as a single upgrade point to the next release.
[09:52] <ExoFlame> 12.10 or 12.04?
[09:52] <KI7MT> 12.04 now, but in April, 14.04
[09:53] <ExoFlame> ok
[09:53] <ExoFlame>  and 32 bit right
[09:53] <TJ-> ExoFlame: what services will you be running? Apache? if so, do you want to support perfect forward secrecy for HTTPS? If so, you'll want apache 2.4 which isn't in Ubuntu 12.04 but is in Ubuntu 14.04, which is released this coming April.
[09:53] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, for servers, Id' say clear of any intermediate releases, as there short lived support wise.
[09:53] <ExoFlame> ok thasnks
[09:54] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, me personally, server, web hosting, I'd do 64bit if at all possible.
[09:54] <khalid> hi
[09:54] <KI7MT> Hello
[09:54] <khalid> hi
[09:55] <AvengerLives> 64 bit is the way to go, if not simply for the ram capacity of your server.
[09:55] <TJ-> KI7MT: just noticed shasum is using all cores... that should make it quicker than md5sum
[09:55] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, TJ- brought upa  good point, if there's sometign specific in 2.4 ya need, 14.04 is the way to go, but is a ways off yet.
[09:56] <TJ-> ExoFlame: I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 server on my hosting servers already to have PFC support - the server packages for plain bare-metal servers are pretty stable. The unstable stuff is mostly in the Desktop and fluffy 'cloud' packages
[09:57] <TJ-> (although upstart/alsa had a lovely critical bug this week that caused kernel panic when reconfigured packages!)
[09:59] <KI7MT> TJ-, I got a dir full of ISO's I'll time shasum && md5sum see which is faster on my workstation.
[10:02] <TJ-> KI7MT: it's managing over 200MB/sec read and not more than 50% on any core so maxing out the drive/controller interface
[10:03] <KI7MT> TJ-, that's pretty good .. run it a couple times and see what the diff is .. what command you using?
[10:04] <giorgiodinapoli> hey guys i have 3 monitors and i deactivate one. but the dialog where  i can accept the new changes doest come up on the remaining
[10:05] <giorgiodinapoli> so it swicthes
[10:05] <normalra> Hello! I was wondering where the code that displays battery notifications ("Laptop battery low") is located? I've tried 'gnome-power-manager', but it either seems that the code was re-written and removed from that project, or I'm insane.
[10:05] <giorgiodinapoli> back after a few seconds, what can i do
[10:05] <AwesomeDragon> Try pressing enter, ? giorgiodinapoli
[10:06] <giorgiodinapoli> focus is lost afaik so i will swicth :))))
[10:06] <giorgiodinapoli> no chnage as of yet
[10:06] <bigalnz> i have connected a TV with HDMI - but its almost like some rows of pixels are missing
[10:07] <bigalnz> help!
[10:07] <bigalnz> oh and overscan seems to mean the picture doesnt fit
[10:07] <AwesomeDragon> giorgiodinapoli,then just do if with arandr
[10:07] <AwesomeDragon> *if -> it
[10:08] <giorgiodinapoli> opk thx
[10:09] <TJ-> KI7MT: "shasum /dev/VG_SRC/home& shasum /dev/VG_BAK/home&"
[10:09] <bigal> Hi All
[10:09] <bigal> I am trying to get my computer hooked up to TV with HDMI but getting a picture that is slightly corrupt
[10:10] <bigal> and slightly too big for TV
[10:12] <KI7MT> TJ-, (4 ) 700MB iso's : shasum 23.2 sec ; md5sum 7.2sec
[10:12] <KI7MT> whoop shasum, 13.5 not 23.2
[10:14] <TJ-> KI7MT: yeah, bit of a difference :)
[10:14] <al_nz1> could someone please help me with X server, HDMI and my graphics problem?
[10:15] <KI7MT> TJ-, Yeah, but if sha is more accurate, that's what's important.
[10:16] <KI7MT> It's only using (1) core too, how did you get it to multi-thread
[10:16] <TJ-> KI7MT: sums different between source and target.. running again on target ... and now its bound to 1 core and the disk throughput is only 70MB/sec. maybe it detects when its got multiple processes or something?
[10:17] <ExoFlame> hello im seting up a hose an would like to allow a few other poepl to ftp or styp into a certen directory to control theit website. but i do not want them to be abple to ssh into the server or do anything other then acces the files withing their directory
[10:17] <TJ-> ExoFlame: setting up a hose? do you need a fireman? :)
[10:18] <ExoFlame> ? i dont get it .
[10:18] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, Jail shell
[10:18] <TJ-> ExoFlame: You could use WebDAV ... or a SFTP variation
[10:19] <ExoFlame> so if im using  sftp and i create a new user say bob
[10:19] <ExoFlame> abd bob has a website bob.com withc is located in bobs home directory
[10:20] <ExoFlame> how would i go about making it so bob coudent ssh in or acces anthing outside his home?
[10:21] <TJ-> ExoFlame: that's proper virtual hosting... as long as you ensure that a) the permissions on home's are tight and b) the web-server is configured to use user isolation (for apache, see the suexec facility)
[10:21] <ExoFlame> ok
[10:21] <ExoFlame> but if i ho
[10:21] <ExoFlame> go*
[10:21] <ExoFlame> sudo aduser bob
[10:22] <ExoFlame> it will alow bob to ssh in and run comands
[10:22] <TJ-> ExoFlame: Sounds to me what you really need is a thorough Virtual Hosting tutorial and information, not Ubuntu support. We're not focused on hosting issues.
[10:23] <ExoFlame> ok sorry so you know where i coud find that?
[10:23] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, Have a look at this though: http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/index.html#download
[10:23] <ExoFlame> ok thank you ill take a look
[10:24] <KI7MT> ExoFlame, Well technically, that would be #ubuntu-server would be better for those types of things
[10:25] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I can't get Bluetooth working on Ubuntu 12.04 with kubuntu-desktop. When I visit Bluetooth in system settings, it prints: "No Bluetooth adapters have been found."
[10:26] <OnkelTem> But I have one, which perfectly worked before
[10:26] <ExoFlame> join #ubuntu-server
[10:26] <TJ-> OnkelTem: define "before" ... 'before' what ?
[10:26] <OnkelTem> TJ-: two restarts before
[10:28] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Is the BT adapter PCI or USB? You can look for it using either "lspci -knn" or "lsusb"
[10:29] <TJ-> OnkelTem: And are you sure you haven't accidentally kit the rfkill hard lock into the off position?
[10:32] <KI7MT> I've done that with Wifi F-Keys, took me ages to figure out why it wasn't working :)
[10:33] <kkjwef> hi, my microsoft mouse stopped working after ubuntu installation. it keeps blinking
[10:33] <bekks> Change the batteries.
[10:33] <kkjwef> it works with ubuntu
[10:33] <kkjwef> but not on w7
[10:33] <kkjwef> it's wired
[10:33] <gordonjcp> kkjwef: I found that too
[10:33] <kkjwef> comfort 3000
[10:33] <gordonjcp> kkjwef: I can never get the scroll wheel working in Windows
[10:33] <kkjwef> i had to do a system restore last time.
[10:33] <kkjwef> no
[10:33] <OnkelTem> TJ-: it's integrated adapter on motherboard, but detects as connected to usb. I have no hardware switches so the change could by only on software level. rfkill -list display the adapter. Both blocking values are "no"
[10:34] <kkjwef> the mouse not even moving now.
[10:34] <kkjwef> it works on ubuntu. doesn't work in w7.
[10:34] <bekks> kkjwef: So how is that an Ubuntu support issue then?
[10:35] <AvengerLives> hard to picture that as a ubuntu issue
[10:35] <AvengerLives> an*
[10:35] <kkjwef> because it happens after installation of ubuntu.
[10:35] <bekks> kkjwef: And your mouse works in Ubuntu. Done, no problems.
[10:35] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Is the "bluetooth" service running?
[10:35] <kkjwef> please be considerate. bekks thanks
[10:35] <kkjwef> dont be so rude
[10:35] <kkjwef> if you dont know how to fix it others might know
[10:35] <bekks> kkjwef: I am just honest - we just cant support windows in here.
[10:36] <OnkelTem> TJ-: bluetoothd is running, yes
[10:36] <kkjwef> bekks. it's ok. you dont have an answer. but the others might have it
[10:36] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Any clues in "/var/log/syslog" ?
[10:36] <kkjwef> bekks you can ignore my question. thanks
[10:36] <AvengerLives> I am to date unaware of any software tx/rx communication in the direction of the mouse hardware
[10:36] <AvengerLives> it goes the other way
[10:36] <bekks> kkjwef: I will ignore you entirely, thanks.
[10:37] <kkjwef> bekks glad to hear that :)
[10:37] <kkjwef> bekks very :)
[10:37] <AvengerLives> does the mouse work on any other machine?
[10:37] <AvengerLives> one w/o sidebyside os install./
[10:37] <kkjwef> it works when i booted with ubuntu
[10:38] <AvengerLives> no I know
[10:38] <normalra> Hello! I was wondering where the code that displays battery notifications ("Laptop battery low") is located? I've tried 'gnome-power-manager', but it either seems that the code was re-written and removed from that project, or I'm insane.
[10:38] <kkjwef> side by side
[10:38] <AvengerLives> I mean independant of the problem machine
[10:39] <gordonjcp> normalra: are you looking for that literal string?
[10:39] <glitsj16> normalra: insanity i don't comment on, but it is probably in indicator-power
[10:39] <gordonjcp> normalra: that may have been broken out to a language file
[10:39] <TJ-> kkjwef: I see lots of similar reports regarding Windows 8, but no obvious solution beyond "reinstall drivers"
[10:39] <normalra> glitsj16: I assume it's hosted on launchpad?
[10:39] <OnkelTem> TJ-: well, yes actually. Despite bluetooth is running, hci0 iface is down. Thanks. I think hard restart of the PC may help
[10:39] <OnkelTem> TJ-: I made only soft restarts (sudo reboot)
[10:40] <glitsj16> normalra: not sure, never looked at it
[10:40] <normalra> gonyere: Not the literal string :P
[10:40] <normalra> glitsj16: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[10:40] <AvengerLives> TJ- is onto something kkjwef: the issue sounds like a driver on the windows side
[10:40] <glitsj16> normalra: you get the source of any package thru apt-get though
[10:40] <neeraj_> pykih
[10:41] <AvengerLives> not that ubuntu install should have touched any of your win drivers but hey, crazier shit has happened
[10:41] <normalra> glitsj16: I would have, if I had known what package provides these notifications.
[10:41] <TJ-> kkjwef: I'd hazard a guess that the installation of Ubuntu is just coincidental with some Windows update
[10:41] <AvengerLives> kkjwef: that would explain the driver overwrite
[10:42] <glitsj16> normalra: yes there's always a starting point needed indeed, no problem
[10:42] <kkjwef> it works last night on windows 7. i booted with ubuntu 13.04 and ran sudo apt-get update. that's all i did.
[10:42] <TJ-> KI7MT: just completed several shasum runs on the same backup LV ... each time a different hash!
[10:42] <kkjwef> now it stops working.
[10:42] <kkjwef> how is that driver problem.
[10:42] <kkjwef> unless ubuntu update did something else.
[10:43] <kkjwef> it was the same last time.
[10:43] <AvengerLives> well if by stops working you mean no power, that's hardward
[10:43] <KI7MT> TJ-, different between the drives, or different on the same drive?
[10:43] <kkjwef> i had to spend hours restoring.
[10:43] <AvengerLives> but i think you mean unresponsive
[10:43] <kkjwef> it has power.
[10:43] <kkjwef> the led is blinking.
[10:43] <AvengerLives> in which case it is squarely a driver issue
[10:44] <AvengerLives> a "driver" has a simple purpose the act as a gateway between the OS and a given piece of hardware
[10:44] <AvengerLives> in this case, your mouse
[10:44] <normalra> glitsj16: Aaah, there it is, 'get_timestring'. It's all I have ever wanted.
[10:44] <TJ-> KI7MT: different for one LV on the backup... but no kernel read errors reported... wondering about RAM corruption now
[10:44] <AvengerLives> the driver interprets signals from the mouse and passes them to the OS
[10:44] <TJ-> KI7MT: looks like I need to get on the KVM and do a memtest
[10:45] <AvengerLives> if you are semi-savvy with your keyboard
[10:45] <KI7MT> TJ-, How is say drive B sync'd to drive A ?
[10:45] <AvengerLives> you should be able to tab your way through the device manager and delete the current mouse driver
[10:45] <AvengerLives> windos will reinstall upon hard-restart, which should solve your problem
[10:45] <TJ-> KI7MT: the clones are done using 'dd'
[10:46] <KI7MT> TJ-, so it should be a bit-fer-bit copy then ..
[10:46] <kkjwef> AvengerLives, I only see dell touchpad in the device manager.
[10:46] <AvengerLives> it would likely be under the usb bus
[10:46] <TJ-> KI7MT: there's about 10 LVs... when I did the first md5sum run (expecting it to be a formality only) 3 LVs had identical hashes (matched the source) and the rest were different. That was when I reran it and discovered a different hash in each run
[10:46] <AvengerLives> it is a usb mouse correct?
[10:47] <AvengerLives> not ps2?
[10:47] <kkjwef> ok i deleted it. gonna restart now.
[10:47] <kkjwef> no
[10:47] <KI7MT> TJ-, dd is hard on disks though , especially after many dd's ... could be a real disk r/w issue too.
[10:47] <AvengerLives> ok
[10:47] <kkjwef> it's laptop
[10:47] <AvengerLives> good luck
[10:47] <TJ-> KI7MT: indeed yes, that's the point - this was supposed to be the fast way of making space on the laptop's drive by allowing us to wipe it and then rewrite the LVs once it has been repartitioned... turning into a marathon now :D
[10:47] <kkjwef> AvengerLives, Thanks. and @bekks. See?  you should quit pissing people off online. fucker
[10:47] <TJ-> KI7MT: I'd have expected the kernel to report a checksum issue or I/O error at the least, in that case
[10:48] <TJ-> KI7MT: I'm about to do a memtest on the KVM...brb
[10:48] <KI7MT> TJ-, Yeah, I would think if there's was any sort of I/O issue, the lern.log should been getting that.
[10:48] <KI7MT> *kern.log
[10:50] <TJ-> KI7MT: getting annoyed now - the GRUB menu doesn't have memtest!!
[10:52] <Aussie_matt> Hi all: I'm wanting to purchase one of the little arm mini pc's to set up a home file servier with linux. Has anyone got one of these or got any pointers? Im not sure the status of ubuntu on the later quad core beasts
[10:54] <glitsj16> Aussie_matt: in #ubuntu-arm are people that deal with those daily, you might have more luck asking there
[10:54] <Aussie_matt> glitsj16: Nice! thank you!
[11:02] <chemist^> I know my question is way out of topic so i will only ask this once. Hope someone will answer :) Does anyone have experience with R/C car modeling? Changing the servo, electromotor and such? I don't know which one is compatible with the one i have. If someone has experience with these things please /msg me in private, since this channel is not ment for such a discussion. Thank you and I apologize to the Channel ops, for asking stuf
[11:02] <chemist^> f out of topic.
[11:17] <gheorghe_> 1
[11:17] <gheorghe_> q
[11:19] <TJ-> KI7MT: Got a memtest error ... that'd explain it !
[11:20] <KI7MT> TJ-, at leaset you found it, that would not have been the first place I looked, but good to know fer suture reference.
[11:20] <KI7MT> *future
[11:21] <TJ-> KI7MT: yeah... had to be memory really if no disk errors reported... that or bugs in both hashing programs!
[11:21] <KI7MT> TJ-, both hash apps not very likely
[11:21] <TJ-> KI7MT: gonna have a cuppa then pull it from the rack and reseat the modules
[11:22] <KI7MT> TJ-, I'd reseat them in the bin  after all that noise .. :)
[11:43] <Ayush> Hello?
[11:43] <halothe23> Hey
[11:44] <Ayush> Can anyone help me? My battery consumption is more in Ubuntu as compared to Windows
[11:44] <Ayush> Any software that can help?
[11:44] <chemist^> Ayush, screen brightness
[11:45] <Ayush> I tried screen brightness
[11:45] <adil> what happened?
[11:45] <chemist^> CPU load... try to look at "ps -aux" to see if u ran any service that uses your cpu
[11:47] <geirha> aux, not -aux
[11:48] <chemist^> geirha ... ?
[11:49] <chemist^> geirha, it's the same
[11:50] <geirha> because so many typo it, the ps in ubuntu accepts it as aux
[11:50] <geirha> but once you mix in other options, you'll get odd results if you mix the ps dialects
[11:52] <adiga> Hi I have a new PC with UEFI firmware. I wanted to install ubuntu can some body help me
[11:53] <trijntje> adiga: sure, what do you want to know?
[11:53] <adiga> I have created LiveDVD of ubuntu .. when I restart my windows8 am not able to get boot menu to install ubuntu
[11:55] <trijntje> adiga: you have to set your bios to boot from dvd first
[11:55] <adiga> I have disabled Faststartup
[11:55] <chemist^> adiga, you need to go into BIOS
[11:55] <JyZyXEL> how do i control so that LUKS gets initialized before LVM2 in the initrd?
[11:55] <chemist^> adiga, no you need to enable the Legacy BIOS instead of the ones new computers use
[11:56] <chemist^> adiga, the new one (can't remember it's name), doesn't let you boot from any other media
[11:56] <chemist^> once you select the legacy bios, you get an option to change the boot order
[11:56] <chemist^> make the CD-ROM 1st
[11:56] <adiga> trijntje how to set bios
[11:57] <adiga> am new to this bios and all
[11:57] <nyrtsi> #testi
[11:59] <linu> hi i have been trying to use bluetooth spp between my ubuntu pc and arm target when i try to open /dev/rfcomm0 using minicom it shows  me minicom: cannot open /dev/rfcomm0: No such file or directory can you tell me what is the issues
[12:03] <adiga> chemist^, how we can go to BIOS mine it is not showing anything during bootup..
[12:08] <chemist^> adiga, yes...i know
[12:08] <chemist^> shitty windows8 laptops ;))
[12:08] <chemist^> adiga, you need to find out what is the default key for your computer to access bios
[12:08] <chemist^> you have it in your manual...or google for it (type in your pc model and add "bios access key")
[12:09] <chemist^> usually it's the DELETE key or F2 or F12 ... depends on the model
[12:10] <Beldar> chemist^, You know the swearing rules here.
[12:11] <whoisthis> can anyone help me to get an r9 series gpu working with ubuntu
[12:17] <Beldar> whoisthis, That appears with a quick glance to be problematic, I can't really help you myself other than to say this is the slowest time to try for help here.
[12:17] <whoisthis> ok thanks
[12:20] <Beldar> whoisthis, I came across this , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r9290_wreck&num=1
[12:22] <buharin> what are other alternatives for unity
[12:22] <buharin> cinnamon kde and gnome sux
[12:23] <chemist^> i use
[12:23] <chemist^> xfce
[12:23] <krux> openbox blackbox fluxbox
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> xfce, lxde, dwm
[12:23] <Beldar> buharin, Can you describe what your looking for?
[12:23] <chemist^> i'm pretty satisfied with it
[12:23] <buharin> I  need smth wich looks like macos
[12:23] <neworder> Hi Guys
[12:24] <neworder> I'm using Windows 8
[12:24] <neworder> I'm finding for a windows installer
[12:24] <neworder> but I can't find it
[12:24] <neworder> I mean Ubuntu windows installer
[12:25] <bekks> neworder: the wubi support is discountinued. Dont use it. It does not work on Windows 8.
[12:25] <Beldar> buharin, maybe you should just use mac os, saying something sux here is an opinion, and kinda offensive in a communication manner.
[12:25] <trijntje> buharin: you can install some docks that mimic macOS, but most people think unity is most similar to macOS
[12:25] <neworder> oh ok!
[12:25] <cfhowlett> neworder, wubi is no longer supported.  try virtualbox if you're only testing or do a proper dual boot
[12:25] <neworder> Ah I see
[12:25] <neworder> If I install it on virtualbox, is it much slower?
[12:26] <trijntje> neworder: that depends on your pc, but probably yes
[12:26] <cfhowlett> neworder, vbox would likely be the easiest.  slower than native install, but depends mostly on your ram
[12:26] <cfhowlett> and cpu
[12:26] <trijntje> and videocard ;)
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> neworder: unity desktop can be as its 3d accelerated
[12:26] <cfhowlett> neworder, but if you don't USE unity, it can hum ... try xubuntu or lubuntu in a vbox and see!
[12:27] <neworder> Hmm ok
[12:27] <neworder> I'm using 16GB ram
[12:27] <trijntje> neworder: thats plenty, give ubuntu 4 and it should fly
[12:27] <neworder> i7  64 bit
[12:27] <neworder> Hmm alright
[12:27] <cfhowlett> neworder, vbox!  but use the 32bit ubuntu
[12:28] <chemist^> !paste
[12:28] <trijntje> I only have 3 G ram myself, and I can run ubuntu in virtualbox, though its slow
[12:28] <neworder> Ah I see
[12:28] <bekks> neworder: Use 64bit then, since your computer supports 64bit.
[12:28] <neworder> cfhowlett: Is there any particular reason why I should use 32 bit
[12:28] <bekks> There is no reason to not do so.
[12:28] <neworder> ohh ok
[12:28] <cfhowlett> trijntje, with unity?  as I suggested : lxde or xfce4 should speed things up
[12:29] <cfhowlett> bekks, 64 bit in virtualbox is sometimes tricky
[12:29] <bekks> cfhowlett: It never was, if your CPU supports 64boit guests, as an i7 does.
[12:29] <fpghost84> Could anyone give me a brief rundown of DNS in Ubuntu 13.10, is it the same as 12.04 with dnsmasq? Usuaully I edit the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file to comment out  the "#dns=dnsmasq' line and use unbound instead. Are things the same in 13.10?
[12:29] <trijntje> cfhowlett: I can run a unity guest on a unity host with only 3GB ram on the host, but its slow, mainly due to the graphic effects
[12:29] <fpghost84> I only ask as when I do "service dnsmasq stop" I get unreconized service
[12:30] <cfhowlett> bekks, hmm. probably true.  sadly, I've never had a chance to play with such a machine
[12:30] <cfhowlett> trijntje, sounds about right.
[12:31] <fpghost84> I also get some messages in syslog like "<warn> dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers."....maybe dnsmasq wasn't even installed for some weird reason?
[12:31] <trijntje> neworder: it should run fine on your pc, unless you have a very crappy videocard
[12:32] <Skinner1> 12.04 lts installs fail2ban 0.8.6 why not the latest release?
[12:32] <neworder> Hmm ok, you mean the 64bit Ubuntu on Vbox right
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> !latest | Skinner1
[12:32] <Skinner1> thanks
[12:33] <Skinner1> can I bypass and install the latest, 0.8.11+ has a feature I need
[12:33] <trijntje> neworder: yes, just give it a try. If its too slow you can always ask here for tricks to speed it up
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> Skinner1: you would have to use a ppa or install it direct from source
[12:34] <Skinner1> hitsujiTMO:  thanks
[12:35] <neworder> hmm alright thanks
[12:36] <glitsj16> fpghost84: i also comment out the same line in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf but i think dnsmasq isn't being used untill you install the dnsmasq package, when you only have dnsmasq-base installed it is normal that you can't find a service
[12:37] <Beldar> Skinner1, Be aware that ppa's and out of the repo installs are technically not supported here.
[12:37] <fpghost84> glitsj16: thanks. Do you also get the same messages in syslog? (e.g. "<warn> dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers.")
[12:37] <Skinner1> hitsujiTMO: any idea what ppa it is?
[12:37] <fpghost84> glitsj16: or also "<error> [1390001889.207727] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:402] update(): dnsmasq owner not found on bus: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq': no such name"
[12:37] <glitsj16> fpghost84: no i don't, but i'm still on 13.04
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> Skinner1: i'm not aware of any
[12:38] <fpghost84> glitsj16: OK, yeah I never had them in 12.04. Wonder what is causing them...
[12:38] <glitsj16> fpghost84: looks like a dbus error
[12:38] <Skinner1> Beldar:  ok, I dont really want to go off the track actually so I might hold back, it's just that 0.8.11 has a feature where the server hostname is in the email report subject, saves opening a lot of emails in the morning
[12:39] <Skinner1> little things like that can make a difference
[12:39] <glitsj16> fpghost84: which dnsmasq related packages do you have installed?
[12:39] <Beldar> Skinner1, I just wanted you to be aware of the path your on and how rocky it may be.
[12:39] <kissarat> Hi. To upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04 must I upgrade to  13.10 at the first?
[12:39] <Skinner1> sure, I like to keep my servers stable
[12:40] <Beldar> kissarat, Yeah.
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> kissarat: yes
[12:40] <Skinner1> you dont realize how busy hackers are until you install something like fail2ban and get email repots, its crazy, scumbags
[12:41] <fpghost84> glitsj16: well it's a clean install of 13.10 so should just be the default...errm...
[12:41] <ikonia> Skinner1: you do realise it - thats why you protet your machine
[12:41] <Beldar> Skinner1, Primarily bots probably.
[12:41] <ikonia> Skinner1: ssh bute force attacks is not "buys" it's just bots wasting your time
[12:41] <wardnik900> Hi Guys I am a complete newbie, can someone please acknowledge this?
[12:42] <Skinner1> pain in the butt most searching for phpmyadmin installs from china
[12:42] <ikonia> wardnik900: welcome to #ubuntu, what's up
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | wardnik900
[12:42] <cfhowlett> Skinner1, let me fix that for you ... "searching for ANYTHING from China ..."
[12:42] <cfhowlett> :)
[12:43] <wardnik900> thx guys have a tech prob, when I can put in clear format will ask
[12:43] <arcsky> how do i list which application i have installed with apt-get ?
[12:43] <kissarat> Oh, it's so long... Maybe I'll just install 14.04
[12:43] <Skinner1> I think they get taught 'how to hack the west' in school these days
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> arcsky: dpkg --get-selections                            but this includes base packages as well.
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | kissarat
[12:44] <Beldar> kissarat, 14.04 is a development at this point, not a main install would be the recommendation.
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> kissarat: not released for another 3 months
[12:46] <AndreasL> Why does every single login manager ignore every configuration I set up? This is beyond frustrating. LightDM doesn't respect autologin sessions, slim doesn't seem to work at all, completely ignoring .xinitrc, .xsession, despite configuring it to load it, with no errors whatsoever for debugging... Are there any alternatives?
[12:46] <fpghost84> glitsj16: dpkg -l dnsmasq gives "dnsmasq                    <none>                                (no description available)"
[12:46] <AndreasL> I just want to have a login manager that automatically logs in a specific user, starts a specific session, and that's it. It should never show itself
[12:46] <ikonia> AndreasL: different login managers use/respect different files depending on your/their setup, make sure you are using the right files for the right tools
[12:46] <AndreasL> Why is this so difficult? :S
[12:46] <wardnik900> have installed Plex media server on 12.04LTS can't media folders, asking for password?
[12:47] <AndreasL> ikonia: I have followed every documentation and every bug report available on the internet afaik
[12:47] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: are you configuring them correctly?
[12:47] <ikonia> AndreasL: "the internet" is a stupid place sadly filled with idiots writing bad info, try to keep to official guides for the products you are using or official documentation
[12:47] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: how are you configuring autologin in lightdm?
[12:48] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: auto-login in lightdm works, but it's overriden by the "last used session"
[12:48] <AndreasL> which is entirely undesirable
[12:48] <AndreasL> and I can not find a way to override this
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: but if it auto logs in, they cant change the session, ergo, not an issue right?
[12:49] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: normally, no. But I sometimes change the session to test other things. Then it's a heck of a lot of problems to change it back, as I need to hook up hardware peripherals just to change the session
[12:49] <AndreasL> which is beyond silly!
[12:50] <TJ-> AndreasL: Depends on where you're making the configuration changes. For lightdm you'd use "lightdm-set-defaults"
[12:50] <AndreasL> what I mean is that if you have auto-login set to some session, and you want to change it, changing it in lightDM's configuration is not enough, because it will simply log in to the last session logged in to, which is not the new config
[12:50] <AndreasL> TJ-: those options override lightdm.conf?
[12:50] <TJ-> AndreasL: See "man lightdm-set-defaults"
[12:52] <AndreasL> TJ-: I think I tried that, it was still overriden by previously remembered session iirc
[12:53] <arcsky> hitsujiTMO: i can't see the actual version of a program i have installed
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: have you tried setting user-session=ubuntu under [SeatDefaults] ?
[12:55] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: yes, both user-session and auto-login-session (can't remember exact name right now) are both overriden by the "use remembered session" "functionality" iirc
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> arcsky: apt-cache show package | grep Version
[12:56] <arcsky> hitsujiTMO: thanks, but one more question? how do i update one packet let say openssl? apt-get update and after apt-get install openssl?
[12:57] <nsh> how to clear whatever stupid dns cache there is please?
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> arcsky: for just a single package and its dependencies, yes.      apt-cache policy packagename                  actually would be a better indication of the current version of a package, and also lists repo version
[12:58] <SURAJ> hello!
[12:59] <cfhowlett> SURAJ, greetings!
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> nsh have you tried http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/flush-dns-cache-ubuntu-13-04-12-10/   ?
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> nsh: however for any dns issues, i find its the isp/nameserver that i'm using is the issue, not ubuntu
[13:01] <nsh> hitsujiTMO, neither init.d/dnsmasq not init.d/nscd exist in 12.04.4 LTS
[13:01] <nsh> well, i'm trying to fix my ISPs dns site blocking
[13:01] <nsh> by using opendns resolver
[13:01] <nsh> but some utilities still contact the blocking IP. e.g. curl kickass.to
[13:02] <nsh> while nslookup/dig etc now report correct IP pool
[13:02] <AndreasL> TJ-: lightdm-set-defaults does not exist for me. command not found (even under sudo)
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> nsh: have you tried rebooting?
[13:03] <nsh> i hate you.
[13:03] <bsdbandit> morning
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: you mest set the full path, its not in the $PATH
[13:04] <wardnik900> \part
[13:04] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: why not? That makes no sense :S where would it be located then?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --session [session name]
[13:05] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: ok, thanks
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: one thing you could try and do is chown ~/.dmrc to root as afaik this is what is used to remember the previous used session
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> AndreasL: altho, that might result in an error message upon login
[13:15] <AndreasL> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the suggestion. I got it to auto-login to the correct session now, which is merely a custom script called "customsession". I guess I can use this as a workaround for now, merely swapping the contents of customsession to start other scripts. At least then I'll have reliable applications starting
[13:20] <belgianguy> anyone familiar with translating things on Launchpad?
[13:21] <belgianguy> Some translation templates have indicators of tabs and spaces, which I copied but when I save a suggestion in the textarea, it eats the spaces
[13:21] <Myrtti> belgianguy: #ubuntu-translators are too
[13:21] <belgianguy> oh, thanks Myrtti
[13:24] <Daggaja> hi
[13:24] <david38400> Can anyone please help as I am experiencing problems with flash player. I am told I have to update it, but then in terminal it says I have the latest version. Why?
[13:24] <Daggaja> Hi guys i have a question and you guys are the ubuntu server guru's with the knowledge
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !server|Daggaja,
[13:25] <neoromantique> Hi guys, I've got an issue -- MPD doesn't play any sound, although starts up and throws no errors(pulse, ncmpcpp)
[13:25] <neoromantique> 13.10
[13:25] <neoromantique> I did follow wiki steps, with no result
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !flash|david38400,
[13:27] <david38400> ubottu, Will try but so far nothing has helped and I wondered if it is a specific Ubuntu 12.04 problem?
[13:28] <jamesaxl_> :K
[13:29] <jamesaxl_> axx
[13:29] <Daggaja> i am reinstalling my home server wich is a file-server for my network, webserver for testing and some basic virtualisation for experimenting stuff... i have 3 harddisks 80GB 2MB cache, 2X250GB 8MB cache and 2TB 64MB cache all three 7200rpm, So what would you guys recommend me, 1. Install OS server on 80GB and use lvm to combine the 2TB and 2x250GB to one? 2. Install OS on 2TB ? What about the cache performance of different sizes
[13:30] <ikonia> Daggaja: to be honest, that sounds like a pointless ammount of thought for a home machine
[13:30] <ikonia> I would not mix different sizes in lvm
[13:30] <ikonia> and on home kit you're not going to see any cache/7200rpm benifits
[13:31] <Daggaja> where would you recommend me to install my ubuntu server operating system ikonia? or doesn't it matter on which disk?
[13:32] <ikonia> Daggaja: it really depends what you're doing (I know you've said at a high level) but how much storage do you need for each task ?
[13:35] <Daggaja> now i am using the 80GB for my timeMachine netatalk backup, made the 2x250GB to 500GB software raid and installed the server os on the 500gb software raid.. the 2TB just came in, havn't installed it yet but obviously thats for storage, games, movies, music etc..
[13:36] <ikonia> 500GB raid 0......not good
[13:36] <ikonia> more so putting the OS on it
[13:36] <Daggaja> but the time i installed the server, i didnt know about lvm so i used raid0 to make it one big drive,
[13:36] <ikonia> do you really need a 500GB data set ?
[13:36] <TJ-> Daggaja: Firstly, you'd be better off using md RAID1 not LV ... then if one drive fails you can recover easier in most circumstances (if you use bootdegraded=y)
[13:37] <Daggaja> ikonia no, i am reinstalling the whole server, as today the new drive came in...
[13:38] <Daggaja> but i dont know which drive is the best to install the os on, because of the difference caches and sizes.
[13:38] <ikonia> Daggaja: ok, so why not do a 250GB mirror as TJ- suggested, that will give you tons of space for the OS + file sharing + virual machines and then you have 2TB disks for future use
[13:38] <ikonia> Daggaja: the 2x250gb are the same sizes are they not ?
[13:38] <Daggaja> yes same type
[13:38] <TJ-> Daggaja: 2ndly, I'd put all the OS rootfs /var on a pair of 80GBs in md RAID1, I'd use the other 80GB for storing LV log files. I'd have the 2X250 as a RAID1 for data and the 2x2TB for RAID1 data both using LVM
[13:38] <ikonia> Daggaja: ok, so perfect, they will make a great mirror for your core disk
[13:39] <ikonia> Daggaja: it really depends on how much space you need in the short/medium/long term for each function
[13:39] <TJ-> Daggaja: For the data RAID1s I'd use independent disks as PVs (the 3rd 80GB as a PV as well) and mirror them using LV
[13:41] <Daggaja> yes but the raid1 system makes me lose 1drive, and it doesn't matter if the server goes offline. Because its mostly for storing my content, movies, games installations and backup for windows computers and offcourse my timemachine backup...
[13:41] <TJ-> Daggaja: I have a similar configuration in my storage servers here and the MD RAID1 has saved me about 6 times over the past few years when OS drive has failed
[13:41] <ikonia> Daggaja: thats why I'm asking how much space you need ? you have a LOT of storage there, it seems unlikley you'll need it all
[13:41] <TJ-> Daggaja: You mentioned the magic word "backup" ... if that's your backup and it fails... ? what then
[13:42] <Daggaja> i dont know how to point my message to persons in this chat,
[13:42] <ikonia> Daggaja: just say the name first
[13:42] <TJ-> Daggaja: If you lose a JBOD OS install... you lose all the custom configuration in /etc/ and application-specific stuff in /var/lib/ and so on
[13:43] <Daggaja> tj yes i know, but i than i could reinstall the server os and i wouldn't lose my pictures, movies and timemachine backup and windows backups
[13:44] <Daggaja> @ikonia test
[13:44] <ikonia> Daggaja: you would if you have them under lvm
[13:44] <Daggaja> ikonia test message
[13:44] <ikonia> Daggaja: you don't need the @ sign
[13:44] <ikonia> Daggaja: that's better
[13:44] <Daggaja> allright thanks. yes let me see
[13:44] <TJ-> Daggaja: which is more valuable? your time recovering a failed system, or the cost of a hard drive
[13:45] <ikonia> Daggaja: that makes it easier to plan and use disks best
[13:45] <ikonia> Daggaja: I'd pause for a moment, and take a real look at how much space you actually need for each task
[13:46] <Daggaja> ikonia i am editing videos so the more space i have for my storage the better, but i will try to index it on gb, just a moment
[13:49] <Daggaja> tj my data is more important, reinstalling the server and configs don't care about it, but i need my files, and with lvm and raid stuff if 1 drives fails, it tooks a lot more time to rebuild and all that other stuff, so i need a disk that is seperate to backup the important stuff of the other disks... example if i have documents on my 2TB disk, i would also copy the document with crontab/cronjob to my seperate disk.. if the 2TB falls 
[13:50] <TJ-> Daggaja: rebuilding doesn't take any time at all! You simply remove the failed drive from the array, insert a good drive, and add it to the failed array... the kernel looks after mirroring the data back to the new drive whilst you get on with work
[13:51] <TJ-> Daggaja: and in the meantime you can "bootdegraded=true" to carry on with a single drive in the broken array
[13:52] <TJ-> Daggaja: In fact, I have that very situation here right now - one of my rack servers has just got a failed OS boot drive
[13:56] <Daggaja> ikonia 80GB-250GB for timemachine macbookpro, 80-250GB for backup server stuff (configs, important docs), OS minimal dont know 25GB?, kvm, sabnzbd, apache2, proftpd? 50GB for virtual machines (not doing special shit just testing) and the rest i could use for storage (movies, games isos, mp3z (its a rsync mirror))... Thats it i gues, but like i said its dynamic
[13:56] <LongCatTH> I upgraded kernel from 3.8.0-31-generic to 3.11.0-14-generic, then some modules are missing
[13:56] <LongCatTH> from this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b3932f7a9939c911b23d to this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2507fe12abc12fa4eb98
[13:56] <LongCatTH> Im tried to enable them using modprobe but it's say can't find those modules
[13:57] <ikonia> Daggaja: tone down the language a little please.
[13:57] <Daggaja> so the 2mb cache disk doesn't matter in my setting? i could use that for installing the ubuntu server
[13:57] <ikonia> Daggaja: how many 80's do you have ?
[13:57] <Daggaja> ikonia where did i go wrong with my language, sorry english is not native language
[13:58] <ikonia> Daggaja: no problem "shit" isn't something that's "polite language"
[13:58] <Daggaja> oh alright sorry.
[13:58] <ikonia> Daggaja: no problem.
[13:58] <anew> i keep failing to start mysql i'm not sure why, where are the logs for that ?
[13:59] <ikonia> anew: /var/log
[13:59] <anew> hmm it's all empty
[13:59] <ikonia> anew: /var/log should not be empty
[13:59] <Daggaja> ikonia 1 80GB 2MB cache, 2 times 250GB 8MB cache and today my 2TB came in, but havn't installed it yet.
[13:59] <anew> noi mean mysql.log is empty
[13:59] <anew> so is mysql.err
[13:59] <ikonia> anew: how are you starting it ?
[13:59] <anew> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[14:00] <ikonia> Daggaja: I'd mirror the 2 x 250's for OS/kvm/apache/etc etc etc and use 2TB for your backups
[14:00] <Daggaja> ikonia at the moment the system is running as 80gb timemachine, and the 250gb in software raid0,, and that is my os and storage.
[14:00] <ikonia> anew: what's the error
[14:00] <anew> ikonia it just says "fail", and in the logs there is nothing ...
[14:00] <ikonia> anew: what does the syslog say
[14:01] <chro> what can I do when the X server crashes/blocks?
[14:01] <chro> before I could use the shortcut ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE but not anymore
[14:01] <Munster> good morning
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> chro: start by checking the logs. /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:01] <chro> is there anything like that in unity ?
[14:01] <anew> connect to server at 'localhost' failed 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[14:01] <Daggaja> ikonia 2x250GB in software raid 1, 80gb for timemachine backup and the 2gb for storage?
[14:01] <chro> hitsujiTMO, I'm not a developer, I don't have to check any logs
[14:02] <ikonia> anew: that's in the syslog
[14:02] <anew> yes
[14:02] <anew> in the syslog
[14:02] <ikonia> tha seems unlikley as that's a connection string
[14:02] <chro> I just want to know how to reboot X
[14:02] <anew> /var/log/syslog
[14:02] <anew> thats where it is
[14:03] <ikonia> Daggaja: doesn't seem a bad setup, you only need about 20GB for your OS - so that leaves 230 GB for kvm/storage/etc/etc
[14:03] <ikonia> Daggaja: then 2TB can be used for your cold backups
[14:03] <chro> nobody here knows how to reboot X?
[14:04] <chro> in case it crashes
[14:04] <gordonjcp> chro: the question makes no sense
[14:04] <gordonjcp> chro: you can't reboot applications, that makes no sense
[14:04] <ikonia> he wants nozap
[14:05] <ikonia> !nozap
[14:05] <ikonia> !dontzap
[14:05] <ikonia> can't remember the factoid
[14:05] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <chro> gordonjcp, before you could do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE remeber?
[14:05] <gordonjcp> chro: yeah, it's gone now
[14:05] <gordonjcp> it was a stupid idea
[14:06] <chro> I did CTRL + ALT+F1 to get a shell and then killed all processes my user was running and it worked
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> chro maybe check the magic sys req functions
[14:06] <chro> but I was wondering if there was any other way
[14:07] <gordonjcp> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/375/how-to-enable-killing-xorg-with-ctrlaltbackspace
[14:07] <belgianguy> anew: that log line seems something like PHP says when it can't connect to your database
[14:07] <Daggaja> ikonia than 20gb os + 80gb kvm config etc about 100gb lets say 160GB am i using.. so i will lose about 90+250GB = 340GB for the raid1. Like i said reinstalling the os, and configs and vm machines, dont care about losing that, so why the raid1 mirror on that ?
[14:07] <Daggaja> tj, what would you sugest now, you have seen the whole story
[14:07] <gordonjcp> chro: that will let you disable "dontzap" if you suddenly start to think that's a good idea
[14:07] <chro> service gdm restart ?
[14:07] <anew> argh
[14:07] <chro> Alt+SysRq+k
[14:07] <ikonia> Daggaja: if you don't want to use a mirror, how do you plan to use the 2 x 250gb
[14:08] <gordonjcp> chro: there's no real reason to do that though
[14:08] <gordonjcp> chro: why do you want to re-enable it?
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> chro: lightdm is the dm if you want to restart that
[14:08] <chro> gordonjcp, my X crashes every once in a while
[14:08] <Daggaja> ikonia no i dont need to use 2x250gb, i have 2 disks that are 250gb and the moment i am using the two disks in raid0.. but i am planning to reinstall the whole system.
[14:08] <chro> ok hitsujiTMO
[14:09] <gordonjcp> chro: you should fix that
[14:09] <gordonjcp> chro: what causes it to crash?
[14:09] <ikonia> Daggaja: so what disks do you actually want to use ?
[14:09] <chro> gordonjcp, lie me and tell me that your lightdm never crashes
[14:09] <chro> (this time was spotify I think)
[14:09] <ikonia> Daggaja: you have an 80, 2x 250gb 1x2tb - what do you want to use out of that ?
[14:09] <gordonjcp> chro: <shrug>
[14:09] <belgianguy> anew: what happesn when you just run 'mysql' in the terminal?
[14:09] <Daggaja> ikonia all the disks
[14:09] <gordonjcp> chro: I've never experienced lightdm crashing, when I've been running normal builds
[14:09] <gordonjcp> chro: if I'm running nightlies, yes
[14:10] <ikonia> Daggaja: ok, so how do you plan to use the 2x250gb if you're not going to mirror them ?
[14:10] <anew> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[14:10] <ikonia> anew: that's a client error
[14:10] <ikonia> anew: you're getting that because the server is not starting up
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> chro: x only crashes for me from time to time if I'm using unity-system-compositor
[14:10] <anew> it's failing !
[14:10] <chro> hitsujiTMO, yes, that's what happens with me
[14:10] <ikonia> anew: I've just told you that
[14:10] <anew> i knew it was failing
[14:10] <Daggaja> ikonia i would like to use all the disks, format / clean everything i have 4 seperate disks...
[14:11] <anew> i dont know how to make it not fail
[14:11] <ikonia> anew: you need to look at why it's not starting, start the mysqld daemon manually
[14:11] <Daggaja> ikonia i was thinking to use 1 of the 250gb disk for the os install, 80gb disk for the timachine backup, 250gb and the 2TB lvm into 1 as storage.
[14:11] <anew> how do i start it manually?
[14:11] <belgianguy> anew: check 'man mysqld'
[14:12] <chro> hitsujiTMO, what do you use instead of unity? and is it more stable?
[14:12] <ikonia> Daggaja: did you read the part that I said don't mix disk sizes
[14:12] <somsip> anew: sudo service mysql start
[14:12] <ikonia> Daggaja: is the data you want to put on lvm important or scratch ?
[14:12] <anew> start: Job is already running: mysql
[14:12] <belgianguy> mysql != mysqld
[14:13] <bekks> anew: then check the config and the way you ar connecting.
[14:13] <belgianguy> take a gander at the manpage of mysqld, the d stands for daemon
[14:13] <belgianguy> and it has a --verbose flag too
[14:13] <Daggaja> ikonia that would be my raw video movies, game iso's, blue rayz etc.
[14:13] <anew> what if i just uninstall it?
[14:13] <ikonia> Daggaja: is it important ?
[14:13] <anew> and reinstall it
[14:13] <anew> will tha twork
[14:13] <Daggaja> ikonia the reason why i wont want to install the server os on the 80GB is because of the 2MB cache
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> chro: i still use unity. installing unity-system-compositor is for testing mir. its not installed by default
[14:14] <somsip> anew: possibly not. There are a few things that can be broken on a mysqld install that would not be fixed by un/reinstall
[14:14] <ikonia> Daggaja: I've said 10 times, you will not see a benifit on the cache on home kit
[14:14] <chro> oh ok, so I guess I do not use that
[14:14] <ikonia> Daggaja: is the data on lvm important
[14:14] <anew>  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[14:14] <anew>  not working
[14:14] <bekks> anew: No, you have to check the config.
[14:14] <belgianguy> anew: mysqlD
[14:14] <belgianguy> the d
[14:14] <belgianguy> is the server
[14:15] <anew> sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start command not found
[14:15] <ikonia> mysql server is not installed
[14:15] <bekks> anew: Check the config. Dont mess around with trying to start it on and on again.
[14:16] <anew> mysql-server is already the newest version.
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> anew: which mysqld
[14:16] <anew> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[14:16] <ikonia> start mysqld manually - the daemon, get some output
[14:16] <belgianguy> mysqld --verbose
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> anew: which mysqld        <- thats a command not a question
[14:16] <bekks> mysqld even writes logs.
[14:16] <chro> hitsujiTMO, you're telling me the default unity never crashed to you?
[14:16] <anew> /usr/sbin/mysqld
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> chro: nope
[14:17] <bekks> chro: For me, it never crashed, too.
[14:17] <chro> how can it be
[14:17] <Daggaja> ikonia if i lose that data i feel bad, but i can redownload most of that stuff.. What about, 1 disk 250GB OS configs, kvm & 80GB timemachine & 2TB storage movies, games etc & 250gb other disk as backup important stuff from server that i dont want to lose (so i have the original on my computer, backup on the server, and a backup of the server on another disk in the server) ?
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> anew so the path to mysqld is /usr/sbin/mysqld not /etc/init.d/mysqld :P    /etc/init.d/ is for the sys v init scripts, not the daemons themselves
[14:17] <anew> anyone
[14:18] <bekks> anew: Check the mysqld config.
[14:18] <bekks> anew: I told you three times now.
[14:18] <ikonia> Daggaja: I think only you can answer your needs to be honest
[14:18] <anew> my.cnf
[14:18] <anew> i dont know what to look for
[14:18] <ikonia> start the daemon manually
[14:18] <anew> /usr/sbin/mysqld hitsu
[14:18] <bekks> anew: the settings in there.
[14:18] <anew> start mysqld
[14:18] <anew> command not found
[14:18] <ikonia> that's not even a command
[14:18] <ikonia> that's just typing random things
[14:19] <bekks> anew: I am out of your issue since you apparently dont listen.
[14:19] <belgianguy> anew: open terminal and type 'which mysqld' without quotes
[14:19] <anew> bekks i dont even know what to look for
[14:19] <anew> check what config
[14:19] <anew> where is it
[14:19] <anew> and what do i look for
[14:19] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <anew> /usr/sbin/mysqld
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> anew: sudo mysqld --verbose
[14:19] <bekks> anew: you just named it yourself, which config file. So I am out.
[14:20] <anew> named it myself?
[14:20] <anew> i didnt name anything...
[14:20] <bekks> 0118 151800 < anew> my.cnf
[14:20] <bekks> you did.
[14:20] <anew> and any hints on what to look for? or just delete the whole file?
[14:20] <bekks> anew: Do you expect deleting something will magically fix it? It wont.
[14:20] <ikonia> start the daemon manually
[14:21] <ikonia> how many times
[14:21] <anew> so then tell me what to look for!
[14:21] <ikonia> I'm out
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> anew: sudo mysqld --verbose
[14:21] <anew> just "check my.cnf" means nothing to me
[14:21] <Daggaja> ikonia alright, if the disk cache doesn't mean a thing in home servers, i would install my ubuntu server os on that 80gb disk, and because your said dont combine different sized disks in lvm and raid leave everything seperate... use the 250GB for backup server stuff, 250GB for timachine storage and 2TB for movies,games,mp3z and that kind of stuff.
[14:21] <anew> http://pastebin.com/FikJFQZE hitsujiTMO
[14:21] <bekks> anew: then do what people tell you on and on. How tricky is it to just do it instead of randomly typing things?
[14:22] <ikonia> Daggaja: if that seems comfortable to you, perfect
[14:22] <Daggaja> ikonia i would thank you for your time and your expertise. Thank you so much for your information and your time
[14:22] <anew> wtf bekks, i just wasted 5 min talking to you and say ' do what they say '
[14:22] <anew> great help
[14:22] <ikonia> Daggaja: not a problem
[14:22] <anew> ikonia i dont know how to start the daemon manually
[14:22] <bekks> anew: Whatever. I am out, since you dont listen and insist on randomly typing things.
[14:22] <somsip> anew: do 'ps aux | grep mysqld | grep -v grep' Is there output?
[14:23] <ikonia> anew: hitsujiTMO has offered a suggestion 3 times
[14:23] <anew> i pastebin his suggestion
[14:23] <ikonia> anew: that pastebin is blank
[14:23] <anew> http://pastebin.com/FikJFQZE
[14:23] <anew> somsip mysql     3927  0.0  4.2 1141564 43108 ?       Ssl  13:03   0:07 /usr/sbin/mysqld
[14:23] <ikonia> it's already running, we know this, but the socket file is not there
[14:24] <ikonia> so stop it, start it manually and look for errors
[14:24] <anew> what is the command for that !!!
[14:24] <somsip> anew: it's running so 'tail -f /var/log/mysql/error.log' and look for errors
[14:24] <ikonia> actually, I'm going to do something else, this is a waste of time
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> anew: sudo service mysql stop
[14:24] <somsip> anew: as you 'sudo service mysql restart'
[14:25] <anew> mysql start/running, process 10379
[14:25] <anew> after sudo service mysql stop and sudo service mysql restart
[14:26] <somsip> anew: just during a restart. Look for errors in the error.log output using my previous message
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> anew: ls -l /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[14:26] <belgianguy> Myrtti: would you know at what time the crowd congregates at #ubuntu-translators? It's very silent there atm.
[14:26] <Myrtti> belgianguy: no idea - might want to try weekdays at european office hours, or try to find them on a mailing list
[14:27] <anew> actually i think i'm ok now? how is that possible
[14:27] <anew> those two commands fixed it ?
[14:27] <somsip> anew: possibly the restart fixed it. But if you're done, so am I
[14:27] <anew> lol
[14:27] <anew> k thx
[14:28] <Samul> hi all I have an epson stylus sx130 printer and scanner and I use ubuntu 13.10 32 bit. I've installed cups but the priner does not work. it is recognized by Printers (in system settings) but it fails to get installed (it loads, but nothing happens)
[14:28] <Samul> please could anyone help me?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: chat logs might be a good way of seeing when the channel gets busy
[14:29] <ledtc> Hello i have problem finding my SD card, and formating it. I tried dmesg | tail command but i cant really make anything out
[14:30] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: ah yes, good thinking
[14:30] <bekks> ledtc: sudo fdisk -l
[14:31] <ledtc> bekks, that give me along list, its correct but its tells me sde1 and sde2, and im trying to format it so that i can install openelec for my raspberrian
[14:31] <belgianguy> Samul: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126329/scanner-epson-sx130-is-not-recognized
[14:31] <bekks> ledtc: Ensure it really is sde1 and sde2.
[14:31] <somsip> ledtc: if you have the openelec.iso you can just follow the instructions using dd bs=1M if=./openelec.iso of=/dev/sde (check this as it's from memory)
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: sde is an odd block for an sd card reader
[14:33] <ledtc> Bekke , yeah i have 2 HDD on 1TB, but the SD card is 4gb so it have to be it
[14:34] <ledtc> hitsujiTMO , well i think its because it in a like big docking thingie with alot of slots
[14:34] <interweb> How do I can search between ubuntu's packages using apt-get ?
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: whats the output of: lsblk
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: apt-cache search
[14:35] <ledtc> hitsujiTMO , that gave me a tree link structure, confirming it
[14:35] <ledtc> So i need to format sde
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: well if sde is 4GB then you might be in safe territory. good luck
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: no need to format if you're dd'ing
[14:36] <ledtc> dd'ing ?
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: what exactly are you doing with the card?
[14:36] <interweb> How do I can get the url of a package on ubuntu ?
[14:36] <ledtc> This http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: packages.ubuntu.com is one method. there are many
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> ledtc: that looks like it formats it for you
[14:37] <avril14th> Hello, I am not sure if I configured ubuntu right so it uses a given partition as swap. How can I chack that?
[14:37] <interweb> hitsujiTMO, I'm looking for something like pacman's -w , I've used it like this and It gets me the url , pacman -Sw PACKAGE
[14:37] <ledtc> avrulla14th : do lsblk
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> avril14th: lsblk | grep swap
[14:38] <bekks> avril14th: cat /proc/swaps
[14:38] <bekks> avril14th: That will tell you whats actually being used for swap, while lsblk just tells you the partition and filesystem labels.
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> Internet13: for the linux image package: apt-cache show linux-image | grep Filename
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: ^^
[14:40] <interweb> hitsujiTMO, I want the url link of the packages
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: thats the url relative to the repo that your using. for the full url you can try: apt-cache policy linux-image
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: wait sorry that wont give the full url sorry
[14:42] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, maybe "apt-get install --print-uris <package>" ??
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: not a valid command
[14:44] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, works here, just tried "apt-get install --print-uris wicd"
[14:44] <interweb> varunendra, It just installs the package for me using "apt-get install --print-uris"
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: same here
[14:46] <varunendra> interweb, with --print-uris, it won't actually download or install anything. It will 'pretend' like installing, but at the download stage, it will give you the download URIs + MD5sums of the required packages.
[14:47] <varunendra> Use the command same as you would for installation, just no need for sudo, and there's the additional "--print-uris"
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: fails to work if the package is already installed
[14:47] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, oh yup, that's true :(
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: what exactly are you trying to do? maybe there's another way of achieving the same goal?
[14:48] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, interweb which package(s) do you need the URL for?
[14:48] <interweb> hitsujiTMO, varunendra , Aha it works now
[14:49] <llutz> hitsujiTMO: varunendra if a package already is installed, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall --print-uris pkg"
[14:49] <varunendra> it is very useful for systems which don't have a working internet connection. But the package info should be in the cache. :)
[14:49] <interweb> hitsujiTMO, varunendra , I want to get the urls for upgrade packages and save them to a text file and then use a download manager like aria2 to get them because it downloads much faster on my network
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> llutz: cheers
[14:50] <varunendra> llutz, THanks!! Didn't think of that. But maybe we'd need to clear the cache as well (so that apt is forced to re-download the package). Do you think so?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: are you doing a lot of installs or something or is this just for a single system?
[14:51] <interweb> hitsujiTMO, This is for a single system
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> interweb: ahh ok, if you were doing it for multiple installs i would have suggested a local repo
[14:54] <llutz> varunendra: apt-get clean before couldn't harm i guess
[15:00] <PupUser579f0b> hii
[15:00] <interweb> PupUser579f0b, Hi
[15:04] <pinqvin_> hello
[15:06] <pinqvin_> I have a problem that I cannot download any deb backage. When I click the link it will only open a meny where you can choose an application which would open it but there is no possibilities to download it
[15:06] <Guest012> hello, how can I change system wide language form en_uk to en_us? (ubu 13.10)
[15:06] <bekks> pinqvin_: Right click, save as.
[15:07] <pinqvin_> that is not possible. This is KX studio ( ubuntu based KDE)
[15:07] <ikonia> pinqvin_: you shouldn't be downloading external deb packages
[15:07] <ikonia> pinqvin_: they should be in the ubuntu repos if they are supported
[15:07] <interweb2> Guest012, Search for language support in dash and go to regional formats in tab
[15:07] <pinqvin_> but but I need new version of vlc
[15:08] <bekks> pinqvin_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:08] <bekks> pinqvin_: And you dont need a foreign kde version when trying to use a new version of vlc.
[15:08] <interweb2> bekks, did he asked for kubuntu desktop ??
[15:08] <bekks> interweb2: Did you read the context of what he is trying to do actually?
[15:08] <roxlu> hi!
[15:09] <pinqvin_> but isn't that kubuntu desktop new graphical enviroment?
[15:09] <roxlu> I need to manage a pc runing linux remotely and wondering what would be the best/fastest solution atm?
[15:09] <bekks> pinqvin_: It is as new as your "KX studio".
[15:09] <belgianguy> roxlu: ssh?
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> roxlu: ssh
[15:10] <interweb2> pinqvin_, Could you explain what do you want to do ?
[15:10] <bekks> pinqvin_: If you want a new vlc version, then install a new vlc version - you dont need to install kde or update it or whatever.
[15:10] <bekks> interweb2: He wants a new vlc version.
[15:10] <roxlu> belgianguy: I meant "desktop". I need to control a graphical (opengl) application
[15:10] <interweb2> bekks, so It is better to use their ppa
[15:10] <bekks> interweb2: Yeah - no need to install kde or kx studio.
[15:11] <pinqvin_> but I cannot install new vlc version, because I cannot download deb fron VLC homebage and terminal says that I have newest version even if I have not
[15:11] <bekks> pinqvin_: Then use the vlc PPA.
[15:11] <bekks> pinqvin_: And you still dont need to update kde or kx studio.
[15:11] <interweb2> pinqvin_, I think this is the thing you want https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[15:11] <xubuntu_> Is there a way to move the window controls in xubuntu from right to left just like in ubuntu?
[15:12] <poth> hi
[15:12] <pinqvin_> thanks
[15:12] <pinqvin_> but it is still wierd that I cannot download stuff
[15:12] <pinqvin_> it seems like that there is not a program which just saves stuff from internet
[15:12] <interweb2> xubuntu_, I think it was in panels settings , anyway ask on #xfce or #xubuntu they could help you better
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> stable and daily are odd words to describe a single package release
[15:13] <Beldar> xubuntu_, If so probably in dconf-editor, what release is this?
[15:13] <xubuntu_> it is the lastest, 13.10
[15:14] <interweb2> xubuntu_, Does the thing I said worked ?
[15:14] <belgianguy> roxlu: there's 'ssh -X' but I have never used it
[15:14] <belgianguy> might require some setup
[15:14] <Beldar> xubuntu_, Ah, 12.04 was still gconf 13.10 is dconf, might be there.
[15:15] <xubuntu_> where do i find it undesettings?r
[15:15] <xubuntu_> under settings?
[15:15] <Beldar> xubuntu_, You will have to look around, just a guess that is the app, where I have no idea, maybe others will know better.
[15:16] <interweb2> xubuntu_, Look at here http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/preferences
[15:16] <belgianguy> roxlu: http://www.craigryder.com/linux-ubuntudebetc/x11-forwarding-and-ssh-for-remote-linux-ubuntu-desktop/
[15:16] <roxlu> belgianguy: Thanks, that would be ok, but that doesn't support opengl
[15:16] <xubuntu_> thanks, i'll give it a try
[15:16] <Guest012> interweb2 that only solved 'half' the problem -> on tty1 i still get the en_uk layout and all special chars are different then my keyboard
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> roxlu: you're not going to find any form of xforwarder that supports opengl afaik
[15:16] <Linkandzelda> guys I have a serious problem, ive opened my firewall on a certain point and checked with telnet and curl that I can conenct to the system, however connecting from the web gives a connection timeout... anyone can help me to solve this?
[15:17] <interweb> xubuntu_, When you've find it go to items tab I think
[15:17] <roxlu> hitsujiTMO: I'm not looking for an "xforwarder" specificly .. i'm looking for a remote desktop tool
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> roxlu: teamviewer, vnc, rdp
[15:18] <roxlu> hitsujiTMO: thanks. I also heard about nx / nomachine
[15:18] <roxlu> which seems to be faster.. didn't try it yet though
[15:18] <pinqvin_> still problems I couldn't install vlc 2.1 only 2.09
[15:19] <interweb> pinqvin_, did you added the ppa ? and then updated it and upgraded it ?
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> pinqvin_: can i ask why you want 2.1 over 2.0.9?
[15:20] <pinqvin_> I want install nhl stream stuff in it and it needs vlc 2.1
[15:21] <rogerio> bate  papo
[15:21] <PeErlEsS> brazuka?
[15:22] <Beldar> !pt
[15:22] <bekks> pinqvin_: Where can we see the requirements of that stream?
[15:23] <pinqvin_> hmm
[15:23] <pinqvin_> :D
[15:23] <pinqvin_> I have to ask
[15:23] <Mocque> go on
[15:24] <Beldar> pinqvin_, Be aware that ppa's are not supported here in spite of the push to show it to you here
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> pinqvin_: is this on some dodgy streaming site that has an "error" saying you need the latest vlc with a link to a copy with a embedded spyware?
[15:25] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: shhhh ;)
[15:25] <pinqvin_> no no, I haven't even tested it with this version, but just wanted to install latest vlc because it was said that it needs that
[15:25] <bekks> pinqvin_: Then test is first.
[15:26] <bekks> pinqvin_: And "I need the latest vlc version" is pretty far away from "I will install kx studio".
[15:26] <pjdelport> Hi; I have a UEFI-based Lenovo G580 laptop, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it without trashing the existing filesystems.
[15:27] <Beldar> !uefi | pjdelport
[15:27] <pjdelport> I've already resized the Windows 8 partition down to make space for Ubuntu (300-something GB
[15:27] <Beldar> pjdelport, Image/clone the OS there first.
[15:27] <Beldar> and make a recovery disc
[15:27] <pinqvin_> aa then you understood wrong, I was saying that I am using KX studio and that was a reason why I wouldn't download teh deb. Sorry about that
[15:28] <pjdelport> Beldar: I have those pages open, yes; I just wanted to check about people's experience and advice, since the information out there seems to be mixed.
[15:28] <bekks> pinqvin_: So you arent using Ubuntu then?
[15:29] <Beldar> pjdelport, Cover yourself for any scenario with a clone of windows and a recovery disc, windows has a built in imager.
[15:29] <pinqvin_> kx studio is based on ubuntu o it is ubuntu
[15:29] <pinqvin_> but it is modified for music production
[15:29] <pinqvin_> so extra stuff inside
[15:29] <Beldar> pjdelport, more info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:30] <interweb> pinqvin_, Could you use ppa on it ?
[15:30] <pjdelport> Beldar: Already covered. What I'm interested in is the best process for doing the actual install, successfully.
[15:30] <bekks> pinqvin_: Well, it isnt part of official repos as far as I can see.
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> pinqvin_: kx studio is an unsupported ubuntu derivative
[15:30] <pinqvin_> yea I used vlc ppa with this
[15:30] <pjdelport> So far, the Ubuntu installer does not seem to detect the existing Windows install, so it looks like I'll have to set up Ubuntu's partitions manually.
[15:31] <pinqvin_> hmm that is something new for me hitsujiTMO because all ubuntu programs which I have installed have worked in this distribution
[15:31] <pjdelport> But I'm also wondering about what's supposed to happen with the bootloader installation. How exactly is that supposed to handled, nowadays, with UEFI?
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: ubuntu installer will not be able to detect windows, if you're booted in uefi and windows is installed as bios/mbr or vice/versa
[15:32] <imghost> pinqvin_, what version are you on?
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> pinqvin_: yes, they may work. but the distribution itself is not supportted here. they have their own support
[15:33] <WileTheCoyot> hello everyone
[15:33] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: Windows should be installed via UEFI, as far as I know. I'm booting the standard 64-bit Ubuntu 13.10 DVD from the EFI boot menu (F12). Does that boot Ubuntu in UEFI mode?
[15:33] <WileTheCoyot> i hope you can help me
[15:33] <pinqvin_> 12.04
[15:33] <pinqvin_> Ok I know that they have own repositories which they are moving to deb repos right now so I think that it will be supported
[15:34] <bekks> pinqvin_: It isnt supported in here.
[15:34] <Guest012> how can I remove input source English (UK) ? http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=7b7d0ff
[15:34] <pinqvin_> ok but maby in future :D
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: it should. it would be best to jump to the live cd mode and check to make sure. as installing the 2 separate ways will have consequences
[15:35] <bekks> pinqvin_: Not in here.
[15:35] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: I'm booted into the live CD at the moment. :)
[15:35] <pinqvin_> you mean forum?
[15:35] <pinqvin_> *chat
[15:35] <pinqvin_> *cahnnel
[15:35] <jhutchins> !efi
[15:35] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to check while Ubuntu is running?
[15:35] <imghost> !ask | WileTheCoyot
[15:36] <bekks> pinqvin_: I dont care where to get kxstudio support, honestly.
[15:36] <WileTheCoyot> i hear sounds from the speaker but not from the headphone
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> pinqvin_: fyi: the support channels are listed here: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Documentation
[15:37] <pinqvin_> yea I know where to get it but I askeed here because I tought that it is also supported here because it is ubuntu based
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: from the terminal whats the output of: dmesg | grep EFI
[15:37] <imghost> WileTheCoyot, is it related with ubuntu? i do not think so
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: the first line alone should give it away
[15:37] <WileTheCoyot> since i'm using ubuntu 12.04 i thing is related
[15:38] <bekks> pinqvin_: Not every car will be supported by Ford, just because Mr. Ford invented the Tin Lizzy ;)
[15:38] <pinqvin_> :D
[15:38] <belgianguy> WileTheCoyot: what is the expected behaviour?
[15:39] <WileTheCoyot> watching a youtube video i can hear the music from the speaker but if i plug in the headphone i hear nothing from it (sorry for my bad english)
[15:39] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: I had the same issues with the installation of Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit (I have a Lenovo B570). I had to go through the custom install and create the partitions manually.
[15:39] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: [    0.000000] efi: EFI v2.31 by INSYDE Corp.
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: can you also pastebin the output of: sudo parted -l
[15:40] <merandus> IS there any command that would show the date of my system's installation?
[15:40] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: also, "Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz.efi [...]" So I take it that's UEFI, right?
[15:40] <belgianguy> WileTheCoyot: are you familiar with the terminal?
[15:40] <bekks> merandus: basically no reliable command.
[15:40] <WileTheCoyot> belgianguy, yes
[15:41] <belgianguy> WileTheCoyot:  is it a USB headphone?
[15:41] <WileTheCoyot> no
[15:41] <merandus> bekks: oh ok.
[15:41] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6774685/ (parted -l)
[15:41] <WileTheCoyot> using alsamixer from terminal i've unmuted everything
[15:41] <bekks> merandus: Why is that important? Better look for the current state of your system.
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: yup looks good. you should be good to go
[15:42] <pjdelport> raiderturbo: Yeah, I guessed as much.
[15:42] <pjdelport> How's Ubuntu's default swap size determined again?
[15:43] <pjdelport> Does it matter whether it's before or after the / partition?
[15:43] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: So I don't have to worry about Ubuntu installing a bootloader on /dev/sda?
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: not 100% accurate but you can check the date in /var/log/installer
[15:43] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: Don't worry, you'll get there... ;-) Not sure on swap size - I have 8Gb RAM and set my swap size to 4Gb (after /)
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> merandus: not 100% accurate but you can check the date in /var/log/installer/syslog
[15:44] <WileTheCoyot> pjdelport, it doesn't matter
[15:44] <merandus> bekks: just curious about somethigng...
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: the installer asks where to install a bootloader too in uefi mode, but it doesn't install one
[15:45] <bekks> merandus: About what?
[15:45] <merandus> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[15:45] <allstarsnorks2> guys I have a problem with Ubuntu. There is this error that popped up: http://pastebin.com/uh9VuSNf\
[15:46] <pjdelport> hitsujiTMO: Phew, ok then.
[15:46] <Beldar> allstarsnorks2, paste has been removed
[15:46] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I had to add Ubuntu to the MS boot menu manually too...
[15:46] <raiderturbo> used MS boot menu instead of GRUB
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> that can break the windows fast boot. well it used too
[15:47] <allstarsnorks2_> whoops, my bad. it's http://pastebin.com/uh9VuSNf
[15:47] <endra> hey, I installed Ubuntu Server 12.04.4 LTS (via USB) but did not select "Basic Ubuntu Server" package during the install. Is that selection necessary to have the basic ubuntu server packages/status/updates/etc? http://i.stack.imgur.com/Nu44s.jpg
[15:47] <merandus> bekks: nothing technical. I need to find out when i started on my university project, and i recall i installed my OS a day before that.
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> endra: not 100% necessary, but no harm in it either.
[15:48] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: What do you mean? (My Windows has never booted fast... lol)
[15:48] <bekks> merandus: Then find the oldest file related to your project.
[15:48] <jockey4her> I'm having some trouble mounting an SD card reader. But I am not that experienced.  I see the reader in dmesg, and it appears in Desktop, but i really need to cat file > /dev/sdb and don't have permission.  Even as root.
[15:48] <pjdelport> raiderturbo: Hmm... how did you do that? (Just in case I need to.)
[15:49] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: It was a windows app... Let me check the name...
[15:49] <merandus> bekks: my files are all updated... how can i see the date of creation... or the oldest one
[15:49] <endra> hitsujiTMO: I realized when I ssh into it, I don't see it showing a few lines of uptime, packages to install, etc. Is this the only thing it adds? Is there a way to install it after the install?
[15:49] <pjdelport> endra: the "Basic Ubuntu Server" just includes a selection of miscellaneous packages; see http://askubuntu.com/q/153265
[15:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:49] <endra> pjdelport, hitsujiTMO, thanks
[15:49] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: It was 'EasyBCD'
[15:49] <allstarsnorks2_> I'm having this error everytime I start Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/uh9VuSNf anyone knows how to resolve this?
[15:49] <pjdelport> endra: It shouldn't really matter whether you select it: just install the services you actually want.
[15:50] <pjdelport> (Depends on what you want to do, though.
[15:50] <endra> pjdelport: ah ok! no worries then. Nothing I really care about
[15:50] <Beldar> raiderturbo, easybcd just takes you to grub, you did not avoid grub
[15:51] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: I did cock it up at one point and could only boot into Ubuntu had to fix that too but cant remember how. I followed some instructions on using EasyBCD but ended up getting what I wanted by reading the EasyBCD screens and working it out for myself
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> raiderturbo: windows 8 hibernates when you choose to shut down. using such a method partially loads windows, before you get to the menu, and must perform a full shutdown to boot the other OS. So if you switch frequently it goes from a 6 second boot to windows to a 30-60second boot. Nothing crazy important. just a little nusance
[15:51] <raiderturbo> Beldar: Yes, but the MS boot selection screen looks better...
[15:51] <pjdelport> raiderturbo: Cool, thanks.
[15:51] <bekks> raiderturbo: you still cant use it.
[15:51] <Beldar> raiderturbo, nor did you technically add ubuntu to the menu without a 3rd party, you now have 3 bootloaders.
[15:52] <raiderturbo> hitsujiTMO: I'm running Win 7... Have never had a boot time of 6 seconds from new... Averages about 30-60 seconds (and this is prior to installing Ubuntu)
[15:52] <imghost> allstarsnorks2_, looks like problem with merge list so remove it using "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf" then run un update ok
[15:52] <raiderturbo> bekks: still can't use what?
[15:52] <WileTheCoyot> if i go in audio setting and do the audio test from the speaker i can hears sounds but not from the headphone
[15:53] <bekks> raiderturbo: the windows menu for booting ubuntu.
[15:53] <raiderturbo> Beldar: And...? It's the solution I wanted... not necessarily what is best for everyone...
[15:53] <pjdelport> endra: those lines of system info when you log in come from the "landscape-common" package, by the way.
[15:53] <pjdelport> So you can install just that, to get them.
[15:53] <WileTheCoyot> hitsujiTMO, have you tried boot-repair?
[15:53] <Beldar> raiderturbo, Your original description lacked the details pointing out what I have is all.
[15:53] <raiderturbo> bekks: not really sure what you're saying but I don't really care which  boot menu is being used... I like the look of whichever one displays for me now...
[15:54] <endra> pjdelport: thanks!
[15:54] <raiderturbo> ;)
[15:54] <allstarsnorks2_> imghost: already did that, and did a killall-unitypanel-service command. still having the message icon.
[15:54] <allstarsnorks2_> Whoop, Software Updater crashed
[15:54] <raiderturbo> Beldar: No probs... I'm still learning it all here...
[15:55] <pjdelport> For hibernation and so on, does Ubuntu's swap partition need to be at least as big as the RAM? Or how does that work?
[15:55] <Beldar> raiderturbo, No biggie, just dual boots can be problematic for some, especially with a uefi.
[15:55] <raiderturbo> Beldar: Yeah, I spent 2 days trying to sort out mine (without help)
[15:55] <imghost> allstarsnorks2_, paste the full output of the command that i agve you
[15:55] <Euclidis_> Greetings..
[15:56] <climber806> has anyone had experience with the Asus ubuntu notebook that was featured on the home page?
[15:56] <Euclidis_> I've got a dubt about proxy configuration.
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: to reliable hibernate it requires to be a minimum of the same amount as ram
[15:56] <Euclidis_> climber806: What is your dubt?
[15:56] <WileTheCoyot> pjdelport, usually the rule is swap=ram*2 if ram < 4 or ram+2 else
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> WileTheCoyot: thats an old mainly obsolete rule.
[15:57] <climber806> Euclides_: nothing, really. i'm using a cr-48 flashed with ubuntu 12.04 right now.
[15:57] <allstarsnorks2_> imghost: here you go: http://pastebin.com/PKEysVQX
[15:57] <WileTheCoyot> hitsujiTMO, but it still work :)
[15:58] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: how much RAM do you have?
[15:58] <Euclidis_> I saw in the Tor Firefox, a default proxy configuration. It is, probably, the Tor servers. Should I copy these information into my system wide?
[15:58] <Ziefin> Does anyone know if there is an audio driver for an ASUS P5n32-sli Premium motherboard
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> pjdelport: do you need to hibernate?
[15:59] <pjdelport> WileTheCoyot, raiderturbo: I have 6GB, so I was thinking of just making 8GB swap, yeah.
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> freenode under attack again?
[15:59] <WileTheCoyot> pjdelport, yes
[15:59] <imghost> allstarsnorks2_, now do one reboot and then run "sudo apt-get update", i hope it will solve
[15:59] <Euclidis_> All my system's hibernate issues are relationated with the driver..
[15:59] <jhutchins> pjdelport: You don't actually want to manage 8G of swap.
[15:59] <allstarsnorks2_> i will do that
[16:00] <jhutchins> pjdelport: Unless you need suspend-to-disk, go for about 4G.
[16:00] <raiderturbo> pjdelport: That will be fine but if you don't need to hibernate you can get away with much less (1Gb/2Gb)
[16:00] <pjdelport> jhutchins: All right. I probably don't; just wanted to be prepared. (I usually just let Ubuntu choose its default.)
[16:00] <Euclidis_> Wow.. I've got about 15 gb of swap.. And more 6 gb of ram.
[16:01] <raiderturbo> Euclidis: your poor HDD... ;-)
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> Euclidis_: do you ever use the swap? its prob just a wast of space
[16:02] <raiderturbo> OS will run much faster with little or no swap... (As long as you have enough RAM)
[16:02] <Euclidis_> I never seen my system using swap..
[16:02] <Euclidis_> Therefore I have 1tb of hd and 4 installed systems.
[16:04] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: Maybe I should reduce my swap space..
[16:05] <raiderturbo> Euclidis: I would....
[16:05] <Euclidis_> raiderturbo: I've already configured the usage of the swap in the swappiness file.
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> Euclidis_: its doing no harm atm anyhow. i'd just reduce swapiness
[16:05] <pjdelport> Okay, so what exactly is the deal with EFI partitions, out of interest? I'm reading that UEFI needs one, but that Windows can re-use (share?) Windows' one.
[16:05] <pjdelport> What gets stored on there?
[16:06] <jhutchins> raiderturbo: It won't use the swap unless it runs low on RAM, but if it did, yeah, it would be terribly slow.
[16:06] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: Do you know about proxy configuration?
[16:06] <mickesomething> guys, is cpu scaling (as default) new in kernel 3.4 or it has existed before?
[16:06] <pjdelport> And how does Windows and Ubuntu co-operate with using the EFI partition?
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> Euclidis_: nope, don't use them
[16:07] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: I would like to set the Tor's  configuration to my system.
[16:08] <neworder> Hi guys
[16:09] <neworder> I'm installing Ubuntu on my VM
[16:09] <pjdelport> mickesomething: I'm pretty sure it was there well before 3.4
[16:09] <neworder> How much RAM should I allocate to it?
[16:09] <neworder> I want it to be fast =)
[16:09] <neworder> I have 16 GB RAM
[16:09] <pjdelport> mickesomething: I think 3.4 enabled the ondemand governer by default, but before that, distributions could also do the same, I imagine.
[16:09] <ikonia> neworder: as it's a vm you can add/remove ram as you see fit
[16:10] <ikonia> neworder: the graphics card will be the thing that lets it down more than anything
[16:10] <jhutchins> mickesomething: Pretty much anything post-pentium will throttle.
[16:10] <raiderturbo> jhutchins: sounds like Linux/Ubuntu handles things better than Windows... Windows like to use swap all of the time unless you remove the swap file...
[16:10] <neworder> Oh okay!
[16:10] <pjdelport> neworder: What will you use the VM for? Make the RAM big enough to fit.
[16:10] <mickesomething> pjdelport: what was the default governor before that?
[16:10] <ikonia> raiderturbo: there is nothing wrong with using swap
[16:10] <neworder> Ah I see, I'm using Intel HD Graphics 4600
[16:10] <jhutchins> neworder: Depends entirely on what you're doing.  Our standard at work is 1G.
[16:11] <skinux> Has anyone experienced Touch Pad suddenly only working as a scroll-wheel and toggling contextual menu?
[16:11] <neworder> Is that okay?
[16:11] <raiderturbo> ikonia: depends on your intended usage...
[16:11] <ikonia> neworder: no, you're not, your using a vritual graphics card,
[16:11] <jhutchins> raiderturbo: Yep.
[16:12] <jhutchins> mickesomething: cpufreq has been around since at least 2.4.
[16:12] <jhutchins> mickesomething: pretty sure it goes back before that.
[16:12] <fidde> Hi, I'm trying to change default autologin-session in lightdm but it only goes into standard Ubuntu session
[16:12] <jhutchins> mickesomething: It's not new.
[16:13] <neworder> ikonia: Virtual Graphics Card?
[16:13] <ikonia> neworder: correct
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> fidde: are you setting user-session under seat defaults?
[16:13] <neworder> Ah, never heard about it
[16:13] <neworder> Lol
[16:13] <fidde> hitsujiTMO: I guess, under /etc/lightdm
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> fidde: [SeatDefaults]
[16:13] <Euclidis_> fidde: You could use ubuntu-tweak to so that..
[16:13] <ikonia> neworder: when you are running in a virtual machine, you are not using the hosts's graphics card, as that is for the host, you are using a virtual graphics card the host creates
[16:13] <fidde> Euclidis_: Thanks!
[16:14] <neworder> ikonia: Ah I see! Which means I can download virtual graphics card right
[16:14] <Euclidis_> fidde: you're welcome !
[16:15] <ikonia> neworder: "download virtual graphics card" ???
[16:15] <neworder> Lol
[16:15] <rimal> guys, i am having a problem here, sometimes my suddenly my screen goes black and some messages are displaying one thing i remember is "kernal panic " i then restart the computer .. it worked fine. but sometimes after it again comes. what should i do?
[16:15] <neworder> As in you said it will be using the host's virtual graphics card
[16:15] <neworder> so in my case
[16:15] <neworder> I'm using a VM to run Ubuntu
[16:15] <ikonia> neworder: right, so it's "virtual hardware" how can you "download it"
[16:16] <fidde> Euclidis_: Can't find lightdm in ubuntu-tweak?
[16:16] <neworder> Hmm, so it's the graphics card which comes with VM and it cannot be changed. Right?
[16:16] <fidde> Euclidis_: Only set wallpaper and stuff
[16:16] <ikonia> neworder: yes, it's virtual hardware
[16:16] <neworder> Oh okay then
[16:17] <neworder> ikonia: It depends on the VM right?
[16:17] <ikonia> neworder: no
[16:17] <neworder> ohh
[16:17] <ikonia> neworder: different hypervisors present differnet model cards, but they are normally still pretty low end
[16:18] <nevyn> some can do reasonably advanced passthrough but thaat's uncommon
[16:18] <pjdelport> neworder: Be sure to install the guest additions: that will make things work a bit nicer.
[16:18] <neworder> hmm
[16:18] <neworder> Guest additions as in plugins?
[16:20] <verdes> is there any ubuntu LTS distro, that has images for CD?
[16:20] <pjdelport> verdes: All of them should have.
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> verdes: mini.iso
[16:20] <Justin_ZW> Howdy, guys. So I went to install Ubuntu, and got a "unable to find medium containing a live filesystem" error which dumped me to a barebones shell. After researching, it turns out that old computers like mine often have the HDD connected as a third IDE or some such. I went to move it, but it's in there with special screws. Is there any way to make Ubuntu recognize the third IDE instead of failing?
[16:20] <Euclidis_> damn. I was looking for a link to help 'fidde' but he is out..
[16:21] <Euclidis_> I found it.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[16:22] <pjdelport> neworder: Sorry, that was assuming you're using VirtualBox; I meant the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
[16:22] <verdes> pjdelport: they have images for DVD,
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> verdes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD doesn't work for uefi tho
[16:23] <verdes> hitsujiTMO: uefi?
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> verdes: how old is the system you're installing to?
[16:24] <squaregoldfish> I'm trying to format a new 2TB drive using mkfs.ext3. It's got as far as "Writing inode tables: 340/14905" and got stuck. Is it likely the drive is bad?
[16:24] <verdes> hitsujiTMO: 2GHz Celeron, RAM 717MB, HDD 40GB, currently running ubuntu 10.10
[16:24] <Euclidis_> Anybody know anything about proxy configuration?
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> squaregoldfish: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[16:24] <pjdelport> squaregoldfish: What does SMART say?
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> verdes: wont have uefi. minimal cd will be ok
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> Euclidis_: could help if you told everyone what proxy your were trying to configure
[16:26] <Euclidis_> I saw in the Tor Firefox, a default proxy configuration. It is, probably, the Tor servers. Should I copy these information into my system wide?
[16:26] <Euclidis_> Which is the implication?
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> !tor | Euclidis_ maybe have a read of this
[16:27] <squaregoldfish> hitsujiTMO: I'll get to pastebin, but there's a bunch of I/O errors reported.
[16:27] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: Thank you..
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> squaregoldfish: sounds like a failing harddrive then
[16:28] <pjdelport> squaregoldfish: It's likely that the disk is bad. Check in the disk manager what the SMART health report for the drive is.
[16:28] <pjdelport> squaregoldfish: If it's telling you it's failing, it's definitely bad.
[16:28] <pjdelport> (Otherwise, the I/O errors could also be from something like a bad cable, not necessarily a bad drive.)
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> squaregoldfish: also: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit         < replace sdX with the correct drive
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> squaregoldfish: also: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit         < replace sdX with the correct drive, forgot a sudo
[16:29] <FireStorms> Networking question, what port does localhost default to and can it be changed?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: localhost is an address, not a port
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: what are you trying to do?
[16:30] <raiderturbo> Firestorms: If you're accessing via a web browser it would be port 80
[16:30] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: All just about the installation. I've got already installed. I would like to set in the 'network proxy configuration' using tor's servers. I mean, no just in the 'web' and yes, in the system wide..
[16:30] <raiderturbo> Firestorms: but as hitsujiTMO said, its an address, not a port
[16:31] <FireStorms> hitsujiTMO, I'm trying to write cleaner URLs to my development server, currently I must type http://localhost:80 to access it I want to change it to just http://localhost
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> Euclidis_: not familiar with tor, so keep asking. systemwide sounds like a bad idea tho
[16:31] <Euclidis_> hitsujiTMO: I see..
[16:31] <pjdelport> FireStorms: HTTP defaults to 80, so you can just leave it out.
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> http:// defaults to 80
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> https:// defaults to 443
[16:32] <FireStorms> pjdelport, no because my server is not running on my computer but in a virtualbox
[16:32] <FireStorms> well technically it's on my computer, but it's in a virtual box
[16:33] <pjdelport> FireStorms: That makes no difference. http://localhost/ is just shorthand for http://localhost:80/
[16:33] <Justin_ZW> So no one can help me, then?
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: localhost is your machine. give it the ip of your virtualbox and make sure vbox is set for bridged networking
[16:33] <FireStorms> pjdelport, I can't access the server with http://localhost I must append :80 for it to work
[16:34] <raiderturbo> Justin_ZW: Sounds like you will have to access the rear of your HDD and set it as 'Primary Master'...?
[16:34] <pjdelport> Justin_ZW: Are you trying to boot from USB? It might be that the old computer's BIOS doesn't support that.
[16:34] <FireStorms> 127.0.0.1:80 also works
[16:34] <Justin_ZW> pjdelport: Live CD
[16:34] <Justin_ZW> Freshly bought and burned this morning
[16:35] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Are you quite sure? What exactly happens when you enter http://localhost/ instead?
[16:35] <Justin_ZW> raiderturbo: How do you do that? I'm not too big on hardware. More of a software guy.
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Justin_ZW: this an old ide system?
[16:36] <FireStorms> pjdelport, page not found. I have port forwarded 8080 on my OS to 80 on the virtual server
[16:36] <squaregoldfish> pjdelport: hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6774974/
[16:36] <Justin_ZW> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, pretty sure it's an old IDE.
[16:36] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Don't you mean you have to type http://localhost:8080/, then?
[16:36] <pjdelport> that's very different to :80
[16:36] <raiderturbo> Justin_ZW: at the rear of the HDD is 'jumper pin', usually tells you the position required on the HDD itself with a small diagram... A normal cross head screwdriver should get you access...
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> Justin_ZW: need to play with the jumpers on the hdds then
[16:36] <FireStorms> pjdelport, yeah... oops lol
[16:37] <pjdelport> FireStorms: You can't default that, no, except by setting up some kind of redirect.
[16:37] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Although you can probably just map port 80 on your machine to 80 on the VM
[16:37] <pjdelport> Then http://localhost/ should work fine.
[16:37] <squaregoldfish> pjdelport: hitsujiTMO: The drive is in a known working external enclosure.
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> Squall5668: Reallocated_Sector_Ct 901 -> yup beginning to fail.
[16:37] <FireStorms> pjdelport, maybe a firefox plug, or is there something more native, /etc/hosts maybe?
[16:38] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Just map from port 80 instead of 8080.
[16:38] <FireStorms> pjdelport, thanks i will try this now
[16:38] <pjdelport> (still to port 80 in the VM, though)
[16:38] <Meistarin> Anyone here using Ubuntu server ?
[16:39] <ikonia> Meistarin: just ask your real question
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> FireStorms: edit your /etc/hosts file. add something like: ip.op.virtual.machine site1.localhost.com                   then you can visit site1.localhost.com to view that site
[16:39] <Meistarin> Ok
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> s/ip.op/ip.of/
[16:39] <pjdelport> Justin_ZW: It's weird that the BIOS will let you boot the CD, but Ubuntu doesn't see it. Just to be sure, did you verify the disc after burning?
[16:40] <Meistarin> Well I need to install vnc on my ubuntu server, I really cant get it to work somehow, is vnc even compilable with ubuntu server ?
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: shy do you need an x session on a server?
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> why*
[16:40] <FireStorms> pjdelport, I tried and got:  You are trying to forward to privileged ports (ports <= 1024). Most operating systems restrict this to only privileged process (typically processes running as an administrative user). This is a warning in case the port forwarding doesn't work. If any problems occur, please try a port higher than 1024.
[16:40] <pjdelport> Meistarin: VNC is compatible, but if it's a server you probably just want SSH instead.
[16:41] <Meistarin> Yeah would be nice with VNC as I'm not good with SSH
[16:41] <ikonia> Meistarin: why not just install ubuntu desktop then
[16:41] <ikonia> Meistarin: it comes with all the desktop / X11 sessions already setup
[16:41] <ikonia> Meistarin: why insall the server if you want a desktop enviornment
[16:42] <bekks> Meistarin: Tunnel VNC through SSH at least.
[16:42] <Meistarin> Because I'm using it as a server and want dekstop too
[16:42] <Magicsack> Afternoon all. Anyone know (im sure you do) why aceplayer-plugin wont install using sudo? Can't open streamtorrent either says acestream :i386 [not candidate version]
[16:42] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Ah, right. Yeah, then you probably have to set up a virtual network, like hitsujiTMO said.
[16:42] <ikonia> Meistarin: you can use the desktop install as a server
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: then just use the desktop iso. its the same thing
[16:42] <squaregoldfish> pjdelport: hitsujiTMO: SMART short self-test failed. Thanks for the pointers for where to look!
[16:42] <pjdelport> FireStorms: Then the VM gets an IP address of its own, which you'll use instead of localhost.
[16:42] <ikonia> Meistarin: the "server" functions works just fine on the desktop
[16:42] <Meistarin> Its a dedicated rented server
[16:42] <pjdelport> squaregoldfish: Give it a Viking funeral. :)
[16:43] <Meistarin> So can't install ubuntu
[16:43] <Meistarin> Need to be server
[16:43] <diaperboy> i am having trouble downloading updates.  i know i am connected to the net because i can open firefox and get to the net
[16:43] <squaregoldfish> pjdelport: Since it's brand new I think I'll get it replaced :)
[16:43] <diaperboy> any ideas
[16:43] <pjdelport> Meistarin: You'll probably want to install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, and so on.
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: most hosting companies provide a desktop iso too
[16:44] <Meistarin> Is normal ubuntu stable as server ?
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: its simply running more software.
[16:45] <pjdelport> Meistarin: Same thing, just different default packages, really
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: same base
[16:46] <Meistarin> Ok tahnks :)
[16:46] <pjdelport> Meistarin: Running X and everything obviously takes resources away from other servers and software on the machine, though.
[16:46] <Meistarin> Yeah
[16:46] <Meistarin> But isnt much right ?
[16:46] <bekks> Meistarin: depends.
[16:47] <pjdelport> Depends. You probably want to work to being able to administrate it with SSH, though. There shouldn't really be anything that needs X, for a server.
[16:48] <pjdelport> What do you want to use X for?
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> Meistarin: a barebones ubuntu server install might use about 50mb ram. a DE can use 150 - 800mb depending on the environment
[16:48] <Meistarin> Yeah I got plenty
[16:48] <Meistarin> Got 16 GB's of ram
[16:48] <bekks> Meistarin: is that box at your home?
[16:49] <Meistarin> No
[16:49] <Meistarin> Renting at a provider
[16:54] <the8thbit> Hello, my laptop battery won't charge. I found a webpage that says that this is probably because some sort of power management software is corrupt and that I need to reinstall it. The site gives a description as to how to do this in Windows, but not Linux. How would I do this in linux?
[16:55] <TJ-> the8thbit: What make/model of laptop?
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: does it charge when the laptop is turned off?
[16:56] <DKFermi> Hi - at the risk of being recognized as total n00b; my system is *regularly* experiencing fatal crashes - including showing the occasional "The system has crashed would you like to submit a report". Errors include the occasional graphics hang up (i915_hangcheck_elapsed) but more annoyingly very flakey performance of the built in wifi chip; I'm running a recent fresh installation of 13.10 64bit and would like to figure out whether it's my 
[16:56] <TJ-> the8thbit: The usual cause is the power-supply data connection is faulty and the laptop can't 'talk' to the charger and therefore refuses to charge the battery
[16:56] <pjdelport> the8thbit: Are you sure it's not a battery problem? Software shouldn't be able to interfere with that.
[16:56] <jamesaxl_> hello
[16:56] <the8thbit> hitsujiTMO: I don't think it did. And I got a warning message from my bios at boot saying that it thinks the adapter is the wrong adapter and that the laptop may not charge (it's the correct adapter)
[16:56] <pjdelport> DKFermi: You got cut off at "whether it's my"
[16:57] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Did you try running through MemTest at boot, yet, to eliminate memory failure?
[16:57] <DKFermi> pjdelport: thanks - the question is basically: is it just me having set up my system somehow in a bad way or are these signs that the hardware is actually failing?
[16:57] <the8thbit> TJ-: Is there a way to solve this in software, or do I need a new power supply or a new battery?
[16:57] <DKFermi> pjdelport: yes, memory seems to be okay
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: then its a hardware issue not a software one. That suggests its sending the wrong voltage. you need a new one
[16:58] <TJ-> the8thbit: tell us the make and model
[16:58] <DKFermi> just for completeness, system is Lenovo TP x201 (build 2010); upgraded to 8 gb of ram & recent addition is a 750 GB hdd
[16:58] <the8thbit> TJ-: Inspiron 5323
[16:58] <DKFermi> i've already checked the logs but nothing obvious pops up
[16:58] <TJ-> the8thbit: Dell XPSs are famous for having a faulty power socket port which fails to recognise the charger and stops charging, or warns that an unapproved charger is attached
[16:58] <TJ-> the8thbit: Ha! thought it would be a Dell!
[16:58] <eer> What can I do so that magnetic links in Firefox are opened in ktorrent?
[16:59] <vanea> Hello. I would like to copy the contents of a found directory into another. I managed to make this line of code: "find initial -name 'marina' -type d -exec cp -R {} final ';'; but it copies the whole folder to another
[16:59] <Magicsack> Help pls.. Need help installing acestream media plugin. Wont run from sudo, unless I am doing it wrong... thanks
[16:59] <the8thbit> So its an issue with the socket on the motherboard? In other words, replacing the battery and power supply will not fix the issue?
[16:59] <pjdelport> DKFermi: It could be hardware or software... Random problems like that are not always easy to troubleshoot. Have you checked that your CPU and other hardware is running reasonably cool? Overheating sometimes causes random failures.
[17:00] <xangua> eer: what are magnet files currently open with¿
[17:00] <eer> xangua, Nothing
[17:00] <the8thbit> TJ-: Is this a protection feature? If so, can I override it, so that it doesn't care if it doesn't recognize the power supply?
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: not an issue with the battery. get a voltmetre and test the voltage from the power supply and see if its correct
[17:00] <wangtao> ddddddddddddddddd
[17:00] <TJ-> the8bit: If you gently wiggle the power plug in the socket you can usually persuade it to work for a while... the fault is on the PCB that mounts the power socket... the data pin trace breaks right on the Via.  I fix them by scratching the lacquer off the data trace to the VIa and pin and applying a trace repair pen.
[17:01] <DKFermi> yeah -- the reason for me re-setting the system was that my old system (13.04 was a partially successful update from 12.04 LTS) that somehow got screwed up; but now the new installation is starting to behave similarly
[17:01] <pjdelport> vanea: Can you describe what you're trying to do in more detail?
[17:01] <the8thbit> TJ-: I understood some of those words
[17:01] <TJ-> the8thbit: You need to do the 'wiggling' whilst you've got the system in the BIOS setup screen, on the Battery Information screen, because it shows the detected adapter (or not)
[17:01] <DKFermi> cpu overheating seems to not be the case - though i will need to reinstall that monitoring tool
[17:02] <DKFermi> the one that is overlaid on the desktop
[17:02] <DKFermi> that provides an interface to lmsensors
[17:02] <DKFermi> conky
[17:02] <the8thbit> TJ-: So I just need to wiggle it at every boot?
[17:02] <Magicsack> DKDermi - I had the same issue with my update from 12.04 to 13.1. Great help in here fixing it!
[17:02] <xangua> eer: ok so you need to do this: when you click on the magnet file it will ask you how to open it, you have to select the ktorrent binary in /usr/bin
[17:02] <vanea> pjdelport: I am trying to find folder 'marina' which is located in folder 'initial' then copy its content to folder 'final'. the line that I wrote copies the whole folder 'marina' to folder 'final'
[17:03] <pjdelport> vanea: Do you have many "marina" folders?
[17:03] <TJ-> the8thbit: Here's a link to a Dell forums post I did with photos describing the issue and the fix: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19517586.aspx
[17:03] <the8thbit> Thanks TJ-
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: also check the power supply to see if its sending the right voltage. both dell + hp chargers tend to have a shorter than usual lifespan
[17:04] <DKFermi> i'm running cairo dock rather than the annoying gnome shell - do you guys know whether that could be causing it?
[17:05] <the8thbit> hitsujiTMO: I'll see if I can track down another supply with the same voltage
[17:05] <vanea> pjdelport:  actually my original line search not for folder marina but for folder 2014-01-18. this name he gets from the previous command that gets the today's date.
[17:05] <eer> xangua, it is not there in /usr/bin
[17:05] <pip__> hi, can anyone point me to a guide for setting up a media server to dish up files to somw windows & ubuntu rigs please
[17:06] <pip__> the one i was thinking of using is on about storage device manager which I believe is a BAD idea
[17:06] <pjdelport> vanea: I'm trying to understand why you are using find to search a tree, instead of just copying directly.
[17:06] <vanea> pjdelport:  one moment. I will show the whole script. it is very little
[17:07] <the8thbit> Hmm
[17:07] <the8thbit> this is odd
[17:07] <the8thbit> I disconnected my power supply
[17:07] <eer> xangua, thx. It worked. My fault.
[17:07] <the8thbit> my battery still says 0%
[17:07] <pjdelport> vanea: What's the background of this problem? Are folders getting created, that you need to regularly copy them? If so, can't you arrange for them to be created in the right place instead?
[17:07] <the8thbit> but it has not powered off
[17:07] <the8thbit> I mean, clearly, as I am still talking to you
[17:07] <TJ-> the8thbit: It isn't always entirely accurate
[17:07] <the8thbit> did I discover infinite power?
[17:08] <belgianguy> pip__: samba?
[17:08] <xangua> the8thbit: no battery¿
[17:08] <DKFermi> pjdelport: sensors indicate ~40 deg for both cpu
[17:08] <the8thbit> TJ-: So what does this mean, then? It doesn't appear to be a charging problem, and its not just a problem with ubuntu displaying the wrong info, as I got that bios warning
[17:08] <DKFermi> at a high of 95
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: 0% doesn't mean no power. just thats its below what it believes is the stable minimum voltage to  power your system
[17:08] <TJ-> the8thbit: 0% often actually means 2-5%
[17:09] <DKFermi> system running at about 50 deg
[17:09] <pjdelport> DKFermi: eek, did it actually reach 95 at some point?
[17:09] <pjdelport> That would definitely be way to high
[17:09] <pjdelport> too, even
[17:09] <the8thbit> hitsujiTMO, TJ-: It was completely out of power (died) when I plugged it in and got that error
[17:09] <DKFermi> i'm just reading off the sensor readings
[17:09] <DKFermi> coretemp-isa-0000
[17:09] <DKFermi> Core 0:       +49.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[17:09] <DKFermi> Core 2:       +42.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[17:10] <DKFermi> acpitz-virtual-0: temp1:        +53.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: the eroor means its not getting the right voltage. but its still getting a voltage. if its detecting the powercable its getting a voltage
[17:10] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Those look like warning thresholds. (Although 95 is really high for that.)
[17:10] <the8thbit> hm, okay
[17:10] <DKFermi> thinkpad-isa-0000: fan1:        3274 RPM; temp1:        +53.0°C
[17:11] <pjdelport> DKFermi: What if you do something that maxes out the CPUs for a bit?
[17:11] <DKFermi> right
[17:11] <the8thbit> so, in other words, its not a problem and I should just ignore it, right?
[17:11] <DKFermi> let me try
[17:11] <pjdelport> DKFermi: e.g. start two xz compressions of something big
[17:11] <pjdelport> See how high it gets under a few minutes' load
[17:12] <TJ-> the8thbit: No, you shouldn't ignore it!
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: it may be a problem, it may be a nuisance. more investigation is required to determine the actual cause
[17:14] <pip__> belgianguy: is samba idiot proof, cos I am an idiot
[17:14] <bekks> pip__: no, nothing is.
[17:14] <DKFermi> okay
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: no. its rather complicated. nfs is easier to configure
[17:14] <pip__> bekks: dang, boned again
[17:15] <DKFermi> tarring running, temps ramp up to 85 deg
[17:15] <DKFermi> and beyond
[17:15] <DKFermi> about to hit 90
[17:15] <bekks> pip__: the good thing is: you can learn it ;)
[17:15] <belgianguy> everyone is an idiot at something, and you have to sorta suck at something to become sorta good at something
[17:15] <DKFermi> though don't hit 90, barely below it
[17:15] <pip__> bekks: becoming less of an idiot in the process I hope
[17:16] <pjdelport> pip__: Samba is pretty simple, but it depends what you want to do with it, too.
[17:16] <DKFermi> pjdelport: nevermind - beyond 90
[17:16] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: ok, I'll take a gander at nfs
[17:16] <jhutchins> pip__: I've found that using swat to configure it helps a lot - especially if you get the version of swat that's linked to the documentation.  Not sure why some idiot felt obliged to split that off.
[17:16] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Wow, ouch. Yeah... anything above 70 should probably be enough to set off warning bells.
[17:17] <pip__> pjdelport: essentially just accessing files from a central reservoir
[17:17] <pjdelport> DKFermi: You should be able to look up online what the maximum recommended operating is for your CPU model, but whatever it is, you're probably exceeding it. :)
[17:17] <DKFermi> pjdelport: any way to increase the voltage on the fan?
[17:17] <jhutchins> DKFermi: Time for a tear-down and clean with compressed air.
[17:17] <DKFermi> yeah - figures
[17:17] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Check your cooling, air outlets, etc.
[17:17] <DKFermi> right - thanks a lot for now
[17:17] <pjdelport> DKFermi: You may want to open it up, get all the lint and dust out.
[17:17] <pip__> jhutchins: is swat for samba or nfs?
[17:17] <pjdelport> That can make a huge difference.
[17:17] <DKFermi> I appreciate the help!
[17:17] <jhutchins> pip__: swat is for samba.  Makes it much easier.
[17:18] <pip__> jhutchins: excellent, tis a starting point :)
[17:18] <TJ-> DKFermi: when was the last time you blew the fan and its radiator clear of fluff and dust?
[17:19] <DKFermi> not too long ago - i think when i've replaced the hdd - so about 1.5 months ago
[17:19] <pip__> gots to check me potatoes, brb
[17:19] <DKFermi> thanks a lot guys - time to turn the system upside down. I appreciate your help!
[17:19] <jhutchins> DKFermi: On older systems the thermal grease between the CPU and the heatsink can dry out.  Some people feel it's good to renew it.
[17:19] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Check that the CPU's heatsink is clean, especially.
[17:19] <pjdelport> Yeah, that too.
[17:19] <imghost> DKFermi, replace the thermal paste, clean all dust, do not use lapi on bed, check if there any moist on the rotator, also check your heat sink
[17:20] <jhutchins> pip__: install swat and samba-doc
[17:20] <pjdelport> DKFermi: Does the laptop feel very hot, while you're doing that?
[17:20] <pjdelport> DKFermi: If it still feels cool, then it's a good sign that the heat isn't even getting out to the heatsink and fans effectively.
[17:21] <pjdelport> Thermal paste and a heatsink clean should fix that.
[17:21] <pip__> jhutchins: ok, sounds like a plan
[17:23] <alberto_> Ciao
[17:23] <blz> clear
[17:24] <blz> Hey really silly question -- how do I leave a channel on IRC?  What's the command?
[17:24] <pip__> jhutchins: the "reservoir" will be serving 2 boxes: 4 operating systems, 2 windows, 2 linux. Does that sound doable?
[17:24] <DJones> blz: Use /part
[17:25] <pip__> jhutchins: or I can just read up & actually make the effort myself :D
[17:25] <blz> DJones, thanks!
[17:25] <blz> DJones, yep, works just fine!
[17:25] <pip__> I can't believe the internet has let me down on reliable information...
[17:26] <pip__> usual internet that is, not here
[17:28] <pip__> thanks for the starting points guys.  This is a new project for me, I daresay I'll be back frequently. TTFN
[17:31] <Harizo> hi
[17:31] <blz> !hi
[17:35] <amon__> hi i have ubuntu-gnome 13.10 and i recently switched to the proprietary nvidia driver (using the packet-manager). after i managed to do that, the system console that used to be displayed in high-res, is now only plaintext. can someone help me with that?
[17:35] <zcheng3> hello
[17:36] <zcheng3> I have a similar problem. I guess previously I installed the wrong grapyics drive and it broke the unity
[17:37] <zcheng3> can anyone tell me how to resolve it?
[17:37] <Jeffry> Hello
[17:37] <zcheng3> the graphics card, actually not a graphics card, but an integrated one, intel
[17:38] <blz> zcheng3, sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[17:38] <blz> zcheng3, that would be the first thing i'd try
[17:39] <blz> but you'll have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[17:39] <zcheng3> yeah I have done it
[17:39] <zcheng3> but I don't know what to do next
[17:39] <zcheng3> ok I will try reintall ubuntu-desktop
[17:41] <skypce> hello guys
[17:41] <zcheng3> I have reintall ubuntu-desktop. Let me reboot my machine. thx
[17:41] <skypce> can you help me to install wine 1.7
[17:42] <skypce> o have this error
[17:42] <skypce>  wine1.7 : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.5 is to be installed
[17:42] <skypce> time ago before format wine works fine
[17:43] <Euclidis_> I'm using kde-full packages from the official repository, but, all gtk applications opens under gnome windows and this is disgusting.. No offense with developers. I  would like to use only KDE and kwin, plasma, etc. By other hand, I wouldn't like to remove unity or 'ubuntu-deskto'.. Ia there a way to fix it?
[17:43] <Jeffry> are there any leaked Trusty Tahr pics?
[17:43] <OerHeks> skypce, wine 1.7 is not in the repos
[17:44] <skypce> OerHeks, i was added wine ppa
[17:44] <OerHeks> Jeffry, try #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 questions
[17:44] <Jeffry> okie
[17:44] <zcheng3> hey
[17:44] <zcheng3> I am sorry to say that it is still not working
[17:44] <OerHeks> skypce, sorry, ppa is not official supported, if you encounter issues contact te ppa maintainer
[17:46] <zcheng3> when I log into the machine it is still dark
[17:46] <zcheng3> unity is still not working after I reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:47] <axizor> can someone help me with setting up a samba share? when I do it through the gui in 12.04 it works fine, now in 13.10 it says i have no permissions when i try to connect from clients
[17:47] <axizor> ive created a samba account for it
[17:50] <Xoric> hi guys ive just installed ubuntu for the 1st time
[17:52] <birdy> good for you
[17:52] <Helpme> Cananyone help me?
[17:54] <pfifo> hello world
[17:54] <blz> Will editing /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf such that the `MAILADDR` is set to <myuser> notify me of degraded arrays when I log in via SSH?
[17:55] <blz> Put another way:  how can I be notified of problems with a raid array when I log into my account over SSH?
[17:55] <birdy> hi guys :)
[17:57] <skypce> guys, if i want be maintainer for some package that need  a maintainer what is my channel?
[17:57] <pfifo> I need to find the size of a partition in the script im writing, its running inside of initramfs and (as of now) only has access to busybox applets, im looking for the size in bytes, but I can do the math if the tool gives MB or GB
[17:58] <TJ-> blz: See "man mdadm.conf"
[17:58] <skypce> pfifo fdisk -l
[17:58] <skypce> mmm i dont know sorr
[17:58] <blz> TJ-, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing
[17:59] <pfifo> skypce: is the an option I need to get the size? that gives block count and ive found block size can vary
[17:59] <blz> The MAILADDR line seems to be what I'm looking for, but that doesn't answer my question of whether or not it's sufficient to put my user name
[17:59] <TJ-> blz: information on MAILADDR and an example
[18:00] <TJ-> blz: The example shows user@domain.tld
[18:00] <blz> TJ-, right, so myuser@localhost?  Do I need to install a mail service of some sort?
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: blocks is always 512
[18:01] <TJ-> blz: best thing is to test it ... "mdadm --monitor --scan --test" will send an email ... try it with both styles
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: blocksize that is
[18:01] <blz> TJ-, great thanks!
[18:02] <blz> TJ-, I'm getting `mdadm: Only one autorebuild process allowed in scan mode, aborting`
[18:02] <blz> TJ-, I suppose I should mention that my / is mounted to the RAID array in question
[18:04] <TIMandSSD> I could ask for help with my Ubuntu situation, but is there any chance someone could assist me with getting my Windows 8.1 desktop to boot to my new SSD?
[18:04] <bekks> !dualboot | TIMandSSD
[18:04] <glitsj16> pfifo: something like lsblk -b perhaps, directly in bytes
[18:04] <blz> TIMandSSD, just a tip:  it's usually easier to install windows first
[18:05] <Euclidis_> !only kde
[18:05] <blz> Ubuntu is really good at detecting other OSes and installing the bootloader properly
[18:05] <TIMandSSD> well heres what i did
[18:05] <Euclidis_> !onlykde
[18:05] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: im not so sure about that, at anyrate, i noticed if i 'fdisk -l /dev/sda1' it prints out the size in bytes on the first line, even though sda1 is the partition itself and fdisk isnt supposed to operate like that
[18:06] <TIMandSSD> got my main HDD (1TB) with its original windows install, trimmed it to fit onto my 120GB SSD, cloned the main partition to the SSD, it works obviously and is recognized but in BIOS i dont see it listed
[18:06] <TIMandSSD> shouldnt that work as well?
[18:06] <pfifo> glitsj16: /bin/sh: lsblk: not found
[18:06] <nicholascompton> Hello people who here can help me get minecraft.jar installer to work on ubuntu please help me??
[18:06] <blz> TIMandSSD, I don't know, and that's a bit outside of the scope of this channel.  Also this is a bootloader issue, not a BIOS issue.
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: you're thinking of block size in a file system. block size on a drive is always 512
[18:07] <blz> TIMandSSD, My suggestion is to install windows to the SSD, and then run the Ubuntu installer afterwards.
[18:07] <glitsj16> pfifo: that's part of the util-linux package if you don't have it
[18:07] <TIMandSSD> i have the latest ubuntu iso, can i partition a space on my ssd and install it from windows?
[18:07] <nicholascompton> That is what i did But im installing java right now and adobe will that allow it to run from java then??
[18:08] <dante123> hi all, daughter dropped her Nexus 7 2012 and cracked screen....could this device run Ubuntu Touch and act as a headless server
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: glitsj16  lsblk -b is certainly the better choice
[18:08] <pfifo> glitsj16: busybox dosent have it
[18:08] <dante123> because cost to fix/hassle is not worth it....but hate to throw in the garbage
[18:08] <blz> TIMandSSD, no, you have to boot from a livecd or live usb drive
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: /bin/lsblk
[18:08] <TIMandSSD> get a nexus 2013, i lovee mine
[18:09] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: why is it a better choice?
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: busybox doesn't have a $PATH
[18:09] <TIMandSSD> ok i have a laptop which has a broken hdd connector, runs ubuntu live from flash drive, i could use that?
[18:09] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: i setup the symlinks
[18:09] <dante123> she got a new 7 2013.....just want to use old one someway
[18:09] <blz> TIMandSSD, try running the installer on your SSD disk.  It might just detect windows and install the bootloader properly.  I don't know if you windows install is not booting because there's a bootloader issue or because there's a driver issue of some sort (or other windowsland problem)
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: it gives you exactly what you're looking for and works with gpt. fdisk works with mbr only
[18:09] <glitsj16> pfifo: bonus with lsblk is that it doesn't need sudo, which might be easier from a script
[18:10] <blz> TIMandSSD, as long as you can boot to a live environment, you're in business
[18:10] <mn2010> TIMandSSD: solder a new one on.
[18:10] <pfifo> glitsj16: initrams is always root
[18:10] <TIMandSSD> I WAS THINKING that how hard is it to solder
[18:10] <TIMandSSD> that would really boost the value of that laptop
[18:10] <TIMandSSD> from like 40 to like 140 bucks or something. dual core, 4gb, not a piece of shit
[18:10] <glitsj16> pfifo: ow, another thing learned .. never touched busybox actually .. thanks
[18:11] <nicholascompton> What html software should i install on linux Got any ideas??
[18:11] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: ok i guess ill include it, its format is a bit nicer, and i dont really like running fdisk aginst a partiton. glitsj16 thanks for the suggestion
[18:12] <glitsj16> nicholascompton: html softwrae
[18:12] <glitsj16> *software, as in IDE?
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: define "html software"
[18:12] <blz> TIMandSSD, please keep it in the main channel so that other people can intervene.  I don't have all of the answers
[18:12] <mn2010> TIMandSSD: depends on the type of mount. Surface-mount soldered parts you can forget it, if its just has joints, you can desolder them, paying close attention and solder in a cable or replacement io.
[18:12] <nicholascompton> Html softare you know thats what you use to make a website thats its based code format
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: emacs
[18:13] <blz> TIMandSSD, but if you're in windows, I'd run Unetbootin and select whatever USB stick you want.  From there, just run the installer and select the SSD when the proper menu comes up.  It'll walk you through the whole process quite gently
[18:13] <mn2010> nicholascompton: Text editor, now if you want a GUI editor like Dreamweaver, look at the Wikipedia article.
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: what are your requirements?
[18:13] <nicholascompton> The server that we are connected to this chat has a modified html 5 code in it for the format of the chat that we are you
[18:13] <TIMandSSD> sounds complex but not terrible, ill have to read more about it. dont own a soldering iron, never attempted it
[18:14] <TIMandSSD> sorry blz, difficult to follow these 5 conversations im having
[18:14] <blz> TIMandSSD, no worries
[18:14] <blz> TIMandSSD, IRC takes  a bit of getting used to =)
[18:14] <TIMandSSD> been a long time since i used it, never was an expert
[18:14] <nicholascompton> I have 12 Gb ram 1tb ssb storage and i7 core cpu and a nividia 680
[18:14] <TIMandSSD> hayday was when it was all rainbow colored
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: what are your requirements in an editor?
[18:15] <blz> How can I check if mdadm is currently running in monitor mode?
[18:15] <nicholascompton> It needs html code html 5 code javascript and mac and windows support (mac support does not really needed)
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: but what do you need in the editor? just a text editor? a graphical editor? sftp support? from what you've described notepad could be recommended to you
[18:17] <nicholascompton> All of they above but most gui and text editor
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: do you edit the html in source or do you need a dreamweaver like interface?
[18:18] <TIMandSSD> i understand visual basic is best IDE, guessing for HTML as well. coming from my uncle, professional programmer
[18:18] <nicholascompton> No is it compatible with ubuntu 13.04 studio??
[18:18] <TIMandSSD> doubtful you could get that on linux
[18:19] <blz> TIMandSSD, IDEs are very much a question of personal preference
[18:19] <blz> nicholascompton, I use SublimeText3, personally.  It's non-free but there's a free-as-in-beer version you can install
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: no, i mean is that the type of editor you're looking for. for a powerful text editor i'd recommend sublime text, for cli editor there's emacs, for visual editor aptana studio
[18:19] <blz> nicholascompton, but of course it's not supported
[18:19] <blz> (by us)
[18:20] <nicholascompton> yes sublime would work perfectly
[18:20] <david38400> Is Ubuntu 12.04 having problems with Adobe flash player????????
[18:20] <blz> nicholascompton, do check out the "sublime text package control".  There are a lot of nice plugins.
[18:21] <nicholascompton> Yes and could someone please tell me how to get minecraft.jar to launch correctly
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> nicholascompton: sublime text 3 ppa: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/sublime-text-3-ubuntu-ppa-now-available.html
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> !java | nicholascompton
[18:21] <pfifo> man, the cut command needs a serious overhaul, i dont think there is a single command line utility in existance that dosent require its output to be piped through 12 different sed expressions before is ready for cut-ing
[18:22] <david38400> Does anybody have problems with Adobe flash player please? Any help anyone??
[18:22] <blz> !patience | david38400
[18:22] <david38400> Sorry I cant believe nobody doesnt know the answer!!!!!
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: terminal emulators are for. you should try and similate the busybox env in a full desktop
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> simulate*
[18:23] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: im using kvm
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: ahh
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: not able to ssh in?
[18:23] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: has the -kernel and -initrd options, making thins really nice
[18:24] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: no ssh involved here
[18:25] <pfifo> I came up with this to get my partitons size in bytes `lsblk -b /dev/sda1 | grep sda1 | sed 's/ \+/\t/g' | cut -f4`
[18:26] <pfifo> cut should be able to operate on spaces when told to use fields, and it should auto detect it too
[18:26] <llutz> pfifo: lsblk -b|awk '/sda1/{print $4}'
[18:26] <ExoFlame> hello im triing to jail sftpusers and i used this tutorial https://library.linode.com/security/sftp-jails but after compleating that it does not allow the user to sftp in to any file location or ssh
[18:27] <pfifo> llutz: ill take it! man i need to learn awk
[18:33] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[18:33] <nmatrix9> Anyone have any experience dealing with a busybox prompt on boot up?
[18:33] <mojtaba> I mean their addresses for download
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> !details | nmatrix9
[18:34] <Helsinkiii> hi guys
[18:34] <islandmonkey> Hello, is there any other way to deal with the recent Dropbox issues? sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dropbox/.dropbox-dist doesn't work.
[18:35] <nmatrix9> I have a ubuntu linux raid 10 system. After a power outtage the does not fully boot up but instead shows an alert that "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/3ec1fc46-****-****-****-*********** does not exist. Dropping to shell! Then a BusyBox prompt shows up with the (initramfs) prompt. I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: hard or soft raid?
[18:36] <Crazydog> Anyone mind helping me compile something ?
[18:36] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: softraid
[18:36] <blz> How can I check if mdadm is currently running in monitor mode?
[18:37] <allu2> Crazydog: say the problem not if someone can help with it
[18:37] <blz> !ask | Crazydog
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: boot a live cd and mount the raid. you need to examine what damage has been done
[18:38] <Crazydog> Trying to compile this.  https://github.com/veox/sgminer  .  I got all the dependeices i think.  After I try ./configure it does it thing for a few, then stops at an error Makefile.in/on ?
[18:38] <allu2> Crazydog: pastebin the process
[18:38] <Crazydog> hmm let me look up how to do that :p
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> Crazydog: are you trying to compile the master branch or tag 4.0.0?
[18:40] <Crazydog> I'm not sure.. I'm a noob, trying to learn though
[18:40] <ExoFlame> Hello im using ubunt 12.04 x32 and need to create a symlink but am geting this error
[18:40] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: so do in lived cd " sudo apt-get install mdadm
[18:40] <nmatrix9> sudo mdadm --assemble --scan" and then I can browse it?
[18:40] <ExoFlame> root@Exoflame3:~# ln -s /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server /home/lighting/yourwebsite/
[18:40] <ExoFlame> ln: target `/home/lighting/yourwebsite/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[18:41] <Crazydog> I got ubuntu 12.10LTS install on a 64 bit machine.
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: first check if all the physical disks look oh. check smart info. then check the md's.
[18:42] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[18:42] <allu2> mojtaba: curl, sed, grep and some other magic with commandline
[18:43] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: not sure how to check smart info
[18:44] <nmatrix9> From bios?
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX                               do that for each drive and look for any errors. might want to do a quick scan too
[18:45] <omnicomment> Right guys, does anyone know the folder in a default Ubuntu installation that contains all the hardware drivers? Referring to the last post on this thread here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1220146
[18:45] <Helsinkiii> hi
[18:45] <allu2> Crazydog: if your goal is simply mine bitcoins there is cgminer in the repositories
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> Crazydog: the source is badly managed. not branched/versioned well so it could be the case that you're trying to build a broken build. you should switch to tag 4.0.0 as that seems to be the stable version
[18:46] <Helsinkiii> I was wondering how to go about diagnosing an issue with 12.04 where my system freezes completely when I either dowload a torrent, or when my web browser has trouble loading multimedia-heavy sites (ie, men's fashion site w/ pictures, flash, animation, etc)
[18:46] <g0tcha> hey guys, quick question, is there a way to change change the text color from ubuntu server terminal from blue to something else?
[18:46] <Helsinkiii> Incidentally, I never get the issue when downloading anything else by any other means
[18:47] <Helsinkiii> I'd say 9/10 times I launch a torrent, my system freezes totally, needing a hard reboot
[18:48] <allu2> omnicomment: aren't hardware drivers included in the kernel? I might be wrong here though
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> g0tcha: the linux terminal or a terminal emulator?
[18:48] <g0tcha> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu server linux terminal
[18:48] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[18:48] <g0tcha> it uses dark blue for directory which is a bit hard for me to read
[18:49] <allu2> g0tcha: its possible
[18:49] <reza_> hi
[18:50] <reza_> is there any girl to chat  with me?
[18:50] <allu2> reza_: wrong channel...
[18:50]  * blz rubs his eyes...
[18:50] <blz> dafuq?
[18:50] <Helsinkiii> so, anyone know where I can start to diagnose the issue?
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> g0tcha: unfortunately you can't change the base colours. you could change the colours ls uses. look at the envvar LS_COLORS
[18:50] <reza_> allu2 what is this channel for?
[18:51] <allu2> reza_: read the topic
[18:51] <omnicomment> allu2 - Not sure, does an update from 12.04.2 to 12.10 update the kernel? Because apparently doing so is breaking the network card. Like I said in my post at the bug report, want to give it a whirl (copying the relevant folder and pasting in my system, to check if stuff will sort itself out). Unlikely I know.
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> omnicomment: why do you want up update from LTS ?
[18:52] <reza_> allu2 I need a girl to answer my questions
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | reza_
[18:52] <allu2> omnicomment: one possibility would be to use a live cd to make hashes of every file on the pc, then do same on machine with the update, and compare files that have changed
[18:52] <omnicomment> No.. I don't want to update from LTS. I'm happy running LTS. I mentioned that, because you asked if the drivers are written in the kernel, as opposed to the shell.
[18:53] <allu2> omnicomment: you may try your luck with lsmod and see if there are any modules loaded that could be the driver
[18:53] <g0tcha> hitsujiTMO, why is that? can you give me an example?
[18:53] <allu2> afaik many proprietary drivers are loaded as modules
[18:54] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: all 4 drives passed
[18:54] <reza_> I want to make my laptop for answer my dial and call,my laptop has modem and my OS is ubuntu 12.04
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: install mdadm and reassemble the raid.
[18:55] <reza_> is there anybody can help me pls
[18:56] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[18:56] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: fyi I tried to follow these instructions last night http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[18:56] <omnicomment> allu2 - Assuming I don't have a driver loaded though... is there a terminal command to load file x at location y as a driver for device z (whose device ID I've found out with lsusb and lspci)?
[18:57] <Crazydog> ok
[18:57] <Crazydog> I got a picture of the error i'm getting.  http://postimg.org/image/nc1cccdp1/
[18:58] <allu2> omnicomment: thats something I haven't have to deal with, closest thing that comes to mind is loading existing modules with modprobe
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: dropping to initramfs can be caused by anyone of a million problems. yours is an issue with your raid. you should try not to follow random articles
[18:58] <kahrl> why does paste.ubuntu.com require a login to view raw text?
[18:58] <omnicomment> allu2 - so I'm thinking, run lsmod on a machine running LTS (with the same hardware) and a working wifi card.. find the driver corresponding to the wifi card --> locate it in the file structure (assuming it's not in the kernel) - any idea how to do this? --> copy it onto a USB --> paste into similar location on my laptop, and run some command to load this copied file as a driver.
[18:59] <allu2> omnicomment: modinfo modname
[18:59] <allu2> omnicomment: should give you the location of the module
[19:00] <omnicomment> allu2 - Ok..thanks! Theoretically that should work, right? What's your guess? Is this plan missing anything basic?
[19:00] <reza_> when I asked for a girl 10 people said to me that I make a mistake and here is for ubuntu support,but now I asked a question and any buddy answer to me
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> g0tcha: this might be helpful http://blog.twistedcode.org/2008/04/lscolors-explained.html
[19:00] <allu2> !patience | reza_
[19:00] <allu2> omnicomment: not that I know, but then again I'm not an expert :P
[19:01] <allu2> omnicomment: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-display-list-of-modules-or-device-drivers-in-the-linux-kernel/ might help
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> kahrl: to prevent abuse. its to aid diagnostics, not to transfer files
[19:01] <omnicomment> allu2 - Well, the experts don't seem to want to work on this, so it's down to irritated n00bs on this one. :D Thanks!
[19:02] <kahrl> meh
[19:02] <Crazydog> Anyone see my post to my error?
[19:02] <reza_> ubotto,Do you know what was my question?
[19:02] <ayja> Hi friends! I have problem, I accendentaly did sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M count=1; sync; on another drive. Which have two partitions encrypted with LUKS. Can I restore it?
[19:03] <Terces> okay, why do they create a minimal installation iso when you cannot put it on a USB stick?
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> ayja: hopefully. how big is the drive? what partition layout was it?
[19:03] <Crazydog> http://postimg.org/image/nc1cccdp1/  There my error.
[19:04] <ayja> 1TB. with two 512 MB partitions
[19:04] <ayja> two of them was encrypted with default ubuntu gui
[19:05] <ayja> only partitions was encrypted, not the whole device
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> ayja: do you have another drive with >1tb free space?
[19:05] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: ok here is where things get a little fuzzy for my raid 10 set up I do a sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd? Been a while since I did this.
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: does scan not work?
[19:06] <ayja> yes
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> ayja: dd /dev/sdc to a file on that drive so you have a backup that you can reset at anystage
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> ayja: then you can use testdisk to scan for your partitions
[19:08] <ayja> ok, and that's all? :)
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> ayja: thats the first tests to perform. will take a while so get that done and come back to us then
[19:08] <erry> ell
[19:09] <ayja> ok, thanks!
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[19:09] <soulasassin> can anyone confirm if the VIA VT1705 audio chip works under kubuntu? im planning to move from windows to kubuntu and just want to check everything's going to work before i do
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> soulasassin: you can test from a live cd without installing
[19:11] <TJ-> ayja: Does the disk use 2048 bytes sectors or 512 byte sectors?  You may be lucky ... that 1MB you zeroed is often the 'spare' space left before partitions. If partition #1 starts at sector 2048 then all you will need do is recover the partition table. Is the disk MBR or GPT?
[19:11] <ayja> TJ-: I don't know
[19:12] <ayja> how I can find out?
[19:12] <llutz> TJ-: "dd ... bs=1M count=1" is > 2k
[19:13] <soulasassin> ive already built the usb stick to install, ill test it live and head back here if i have any issues
[19:13] <TJ-> llutz: 1M x count=1 is 2048x512
[19:14] <TJ-> ayja: fdisk will tell you the hard sector size.. something like this: "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes"
[19:14] <lazyfingers> hello. does anyone know how to remap caps to control in 13.10?
[19:14] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO:  public paste "fdisk -l"
[19:15] <MSJ2985> hey guys somedody that can help me a bit??
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: yes
[19:15] <ayja> TJ-:Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:16] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: don't forget sudo with that fdisk command... or you won't see anything
[19:16] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: pastebin.com/5bDmMuwy
[19:18] <ayja> TJ: testdisk is in progress and found:   Linux                    0  32 33     0  97 33       4096
[19:18] <TJ-> ayja: you may be lucky, testdisk may be able to recreate the original partition table... although if it was GPT I'm not sure how well it'll do since last time I checked it only recreates MBR. If testdisk can create an MBR you can, though, convert it to GPT using gdisk.
[19:18] <ayja> also i googled and did grep on sdb, so I found Luks also
[19:18] <ayja> TJ-: good to hear :)
[19:19] <ayja> ok, so big thanks for help :)
[19:19] <MarkDavies> the package libpcap for Ubuntu, what's the best source?
[19:19] <deva> Anybody having trouble with mouting nfs since last base-system update?
[19:20] <TJ-> ayja: that 4096 sectors is 2MB ... was there a partition of 2MB ?
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[19:20] <llutz> !info libpcap0.8 | MarkDavies
[19:20] <TJ-> ayja: You *did* have the luks headers for the partitions backed up someplace safe, didn't you?
[19:21] <Guest87808> l
[19:21] <razzeeyy> Hi everyone. Anyone running slim dm on ubuntu 13.10?
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: any error from that?
[19:22] <anhday> test
[19:23] <Rallias> So... I've got a server that was installed in french... I only speak english... how do I correct this?
[19:24] <ayja> TJ-: no I didn't have a partition of 2Mb
[19:24] <ayja> TJ: no I didnt backed up..
[19:25] <TJ-> ayja: that looks like a false positive then not good
[19:25] <lazyfingers> is it possible to map caps to ctrl in 13.10?
[19:25] <TJ-> ayja: might be too late now... if you don't have the LUKS headers backed up there's no way to recover a volume
[19:26] <ayja> TJ-: ayja@debian:~$ grep -a -b -P --only-matching 'LUKS\xba\xbe' /dev/sdb
[19:26] <ayja> TJ-: I get 1048576:LUKS
[19:26] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: yes no recognizable superblock on /dev/sda1 mdadm: /dev/sda1 has no superblock - assembly aborted I think the reason is sda1 has boot partition sda2 has the raid (going off of what I see in gparted)
[19:26] <ayja> on the first seconds.
[19:27] <jhutchins> !localles
[19:27] <Rallias> Never mind, I found it out... my google fu was just lagging.
[19:27] <jhutchins> !locale
[19:28] <TJ-> ayja: That's a VERY good sign... that's like I referred to earlier ... 1048576 is 1MB is sector 2048
[19:28] <TJ-> ayja: So even if testdisk doesn't get the correct partition entries you can manually recreate the partition table
[19:28] <blz> How can I check if mdadm is currently running in monitor mode?
[19:29] <botsis> hey guys. i'm installing debian but i guess someone will be able to help...
[19:29] <botsis> i'm installing debian using the win32 installer. just finished the partitioning, it's installing the base system now. i'm connected to the net via a powerline. powerline got disconnected (when it was downloading libssl1.0.0). powerline is back in now, but download isn't re-starting. what to do ?
[19:29] <ayja> TJ-: ok, so I will google maybe how to do it
[19:30] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: so I think maybe I should do sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 ?
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: can you pastebin: sudo parted -l
[19:33] <Gegsite> he
[19:33] <Gegsite> I have a big problem with 13.10
[19:33] <Gegsite> it is a crap for audio stuff like skype have no sound at all
[19:34] <Gegsite> I did upgrade from 13.04 there was no problem with sound whatsoever
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: can't see the layout of sda and sdd from fdisk as they're gpt
[19:34] <botsis> i can get into a command line by going to ctrl-alt-f3 for example; but cant do ifdown eth0 or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:34] <botsis> ..
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> botsis: doing it with sudo?
[19:35] <Ziefin> I have an issue if someone is willing to help
[19:35] <glitsj16> Gegsite: that's a known issue on 13.10 --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/get-sound-working-in-skype-with-ubuntu.html offers a fix
[19:35] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: pastebin.com/t9CT4rtg
[19:35] <Ziefin> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and have an ASUS P5N32-sli Premium Motherboard with dual nic's onboard
[19:35] <Gegsite> glitsj16, I did but now it is silent AGAIN
[19:35] <botsis> /bin/sh: sudo: not found
[19:35] <botsis> it's debian hitsujiTMO
[19:35] <Ziefin> the nic's are not working
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: so, yes you are correct, its sda2
[19:35] <glitsj16> Gegsite: only Skype?
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> botsis: then maybe you should be asking in #debian
[19:36] <Guest15051> ubuntu users: i some files that i am trying to move them to my documents from home folder i get this error: The folder "Videos" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it
[19:36] <Ziefin> here is my lspci for the nic's
[19:36] <Guest15051> i am the root user
[19:36] <Gegsite> glitsj16, lmms (audio studio like FL) has also issues nowdays
[19:36] <Ziefin> 00:11.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[19:36] <Ziefin> 00:12.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[19:36] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: so run that assemble command typed with sda2?
[19:37] <Guest15051> any suggestions?
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: correct
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> Ziefin: lspci -nn would be more helpful
[19:37] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:37] <Ziefin> 00:11.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2)
[19:37] <Ziefin> 00:12.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2)
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Ziefin: any output of ifconfig ?
[19:38] <MarkDavies> but these libpcap are without development headers, am I right?
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ziefin: or ifconfig -a
[19:39] <Ziefin> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:f3:af:e0:e3
[19:39] <Ziefin>           inet6 addr: fe80::218:f3ff:feaf:e0e3/64 Scope:Link
[19:39] <Ziefin>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[19:39] <jhutchins> Ziefin: forcedeth
[19:39] <Ziefin>           RX packets:8130 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[19:39] <Ziefin>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[19:39] <FloodBot1> Ziefin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Ziefin>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | Ziefin
[19:39] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: getting cannot open device /dev/sda2: device or resource busy
[19:40] <Ziefin> !paste
[19:40] <irated> Are there known issues with ubuntu appling vmware customization specs?
[19:40] <malin_> Hello, i feel my ubuntu installation rather sluggish. Running with laptop processor E450 with radeon 6320. is it recommended to install prop-gpu drivers performance wise in Unity? Or is my bet to just install XFCE instead? I  really like unity
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: ran with sudo? make sure nothing else is using it: mount | grep /dev/sda
[19:41] <Ziefin> !paste -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6775990/    there you go
[19:41] <Gegsite> wow has a BUZZZZ sound when I restart pulseaudio
[19:42] <glitsj16> Gegsite: if you have working audio in general, except in specific apps, i'd try moving their configs out of the way and test with fresh ones..
[19:42] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: yes ran with sudo
[19:42] <Ziefin> forcedeth command doesn't work
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: mdadm --examine /dev/sda2
[19:45] <malin_> Hello, i feel my ubuntu installation rather sluggish. Running with laptop processor E450 with radeon 6320. is it recommended to install prop-gpu drivers performance wise in Unity? Or is my bet to just install XFCE instead? I  really like unity
[19:45] <gordonjcp> malin_: you'll need to install the proper drivers
[19:46] <glitsj16> malin_: you could run a unity test: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  .. that'll give you a good general idea
[19:46] <Gegsite> hmm I did stop'd the pulseaudio but in firefox has sound in youtube video....
[19:46] <Gegsite> glitsj16, sorry did forget to tag you
[19:46] <malin_> glitsj16: it says YES to all
[19:46] <glitsj16> Gegsite: no worries
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: sorry, sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sda2                        can you pastebin the output
[19:46] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: pastebin.com/vfy45cD8
[19:47] <honeybuntu> has anyone tried installing AVG antivirus for linux on ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS?
[19:47] <mikubuntu> used the 'language support' tool to install spanish language packets, but cannot seem to apply to use -- any ideas?
[19:48] <malin_> glitsj16:    opengl render string: Gallium .04 on AMD PALM, what is that?
[19:48] <glitsj16> malin_: well that should be a good sign, but i bet using the proprietary drivers will improve your experience
[19:48] <malin_> 3.0 Mesa 9.2.1 .. ? glitsj16
[19:48] <malin_> glitsj16: you think? i get crashes on the program that searcher for my proprietary drivers.. should i just install in synaptic instead?
[19:48] <glitsj16> malin_: gallium and mesa are the open source GPU drivers
[19:48] <malin_> glitsj16: ah ok
[19:49] <malin_> glitsj16: but unity = 3d accelerated so = propdrivers is better?
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: its stating its active. is /dev/md0 present?
[19:49] <glitsj16> malin_: synaptic should be fine yes, just find the correct ones for your GPU, i have never used radeon cards though
[19:49] <honeybuntu> Is there another ubuntu support channel that can offer info on how2 install AVG antivirus in ubuntu?
[19:50] <honeybuntu> hello?
[19:50] <malin_> glitsj16: i can't really chose.. there is just amdcccle-updates and amdcccle. and the open source ofc
[19:50] <glitsj16> malin_: hardware acceleration isn't only usefull in unity, but you get better performance in video play too
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: can you also pastebin the output of: sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sd[bcd]1
[19:51] <malin_> glitsj16: is it recommended to delete the open source drivers before installing prop? or is it ok to just install them?
[19:51] <glitsj16> malin_: can't give good advice on that, i never owned anything AMD like sorry
[19:51] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO:  dev/md0 present? Not sure how can I check?  Or better yet how to turn it all off so I can reassemble the raid?
[19:51] <wachin> I only think to install AVG antivirus for linux. Great that other person have the same thinking
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: ls -l /dev/md0
[19:51] <glitsj16> malin_: installing the proprietary driver will take care of blacklisting the open source ones, no need to anything to those
[19:52] <glitsj16> *to do
[19:52] <danny4way> Is there any software on ubuntu that control windows like internet cafe?
[19:53] <glitsj16> Gegsite: i didn't get what you said about firefox .. you stopped pulseaudio but you can still get youtube audio?
[19:53] <danny4way> There's one person in my house that i need to restrict the time to usage of the computer. But I want others to be able to log in the computer with the password
[19:53] <Gegsite> glitsj16, yes
[19:54] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: pastebin.com/jad0thTQ
[19:54] <Gegsite> pretty sure it is a skype problem
[19:55] <squeakyneb> danny4way, that sounds more like an issue that needs a social fix rather than a technical one...
[19:55] <glitsj16> Gegsite: flash might have some oddities audio (and other) wise .. tried restarting firefox to check if this is a persistent issue yet?
[19:55] <miseria> "charlando con un arbol pregunte: porque tenia el cerebro enterrado? responde: la mision es proteger la tierra" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[19:55] <Gegsite> glitsj16, did also with sudo, btw xchat has also sound when highlighting me
[19:56] <mikubuntu> used the 'language support' tool to install spanish language packets, but cannot seem to apply to use -- any ideas?
[19:56] <glitsj16> Gegsite: they could be falling back on alsa, pulseaudio is just another layer on top of that
[19:56] <honeybuntu> What is a good antivirus program for ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[19:56] <ffio> is their any ubuntu user using zfs ?
[19:56] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: ls  - l /dev/md0 pastebin.com/lvded6y
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: it seems its tried to assemble with sda2 and sdb1 but not sdc1 or sdd1.
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md0
[19:58] <mikubuntu> honeybuntu: linux is largely immune to virus, most users don't use anti-virus that i know of. if you're really paranoid, i think clam-av has a linux version
[19:59] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: ok it is stoped
[19:59] <honeybuntu> Ah..clam-av..Thank you for the input.
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[20:00] <wachin> honeybuntu: If you can use an Antivirus for Scan Windows files is ok use it. I see on the web that AVG and Avast have deb installer
[20:01] <honeybuntu> AVG has deb installer, and tar.gz, install sh
[20:02] <honeybuntu> thanks mikubuntu & wachin.
[20:02] <phong__> hi guys, what is the software to burn blueray disc?
[20:02] <Gegsite> awwg
[20:03] <glitsj16> Gegsite: how did you configure skype for audio? some people have good experiences unchecking the 'let skype take over your audio ...' in its preferences, at least worth a shot if you haven't already
[20:03] <phong__> i can't seem to know one
[20:03] <phong__> please
[20:03] <phong__> what software use to burn blue ray in ubuntu?
[20:03] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: that's interesting it now says /dev/md0 assembled from 2 drives - not enoughto start the array
[20:03] <phong__> anyone?
[20:03] <Guest66543> Can't boot my computer all of a sudden...has anyone seen this issue: mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[20:04] <Gegsite> glitsj16, strange now it is good but did not do anything
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: i think your issue is with sdc1 and/or sdd1 then
[20:04] <glitsj16> Gegsite: magic is always a good solution lol
[20:04]  * phong__ what app use to burn blue ray disc ?
[20:04] <honeybuntu> hey, I can install AVG utilizing Ubuntu Software Center
[20:04] <phong__> hmm
[20:04] <Gegsite> another issue, I have on my android SMB samba server for sharing my sd card on my local network
[20:05] <Gegsite> so I can copy etc my stuff like pic
[20:05] <phong__> man
[20:05] <Gegsite> now I cant connect to my samba stuff.... it saz cant open
[20:06] <honeybuntu> clam av is a decent antivir app also.
[20:06] <Gegsite> sorry it say : connection refused
[20:06] <Gegsite> lol I have no samba installed
[20:06] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: strange I thought the smart util said everything was fine with drives
[20:07] <Ziefin> where can i find forcedeth for Nvidia
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: you got much experience with broken arrays?
[20:07] <honeybuntu> Glad i dropped by. Going to give the avg antivirus install a try 1st.
[20:07] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: far too much :D
[20:07] <honeybuntu> B'bye ubuntu helpdesk channel. BBL
[20:08] <nmatrix9> Bye
[20:08] <Gegsite> installed but not worked still I cannot connect to my mobile's samba
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: raid 10 assembling with only 2 of the 4 parts. any ideas. not used to this. http://pastebin.com/vfy45cD8 http://pastebin.com/jad0thTQ
[20:13] <_Trullo> just installed ubuntu 13.10, I have no sound over hdmi.. anyway to check what's wrong?
[20:13] <blargg> I've been told that Ubuntu 12.04.3 remembers window sizes, but I'm not getting that (with the Bless hex editor). Where would I enable this?
[20:17] <cYmen_> Is there any good way to get a new window manager like xmonad or awesome but keep the nice tools like wifi config?
[20:17] <Crazydog> I'm such a noob, i cant even use pastebin :(
[20:17] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: nmatrix9 What's the topology? which partitions are striped and which are mirrored? nmatrix9 Can you do "tail -n 500 /var/log/ | grep mdadm | pastebinit"
[20:18] <nmatrix9> TJ: will do
[20:18] <glitsj16> blargg: i don't know of a general 'enable this functionality', but if you use unity there's a compiz plugin called 'Place Windows' you can use to set things up to your liking for specific apps
[20:19] <Crazydog> every command i try with pastebinit comes back http://paste2org/new-paste/
[20:19] <Crazydog> what am i doing wrong?
[20:19] <blargg> glitsj16, the author of Bless claims that Ubuntu 12.04.3 remembers window sizes, ugh. Yeah, I've seen the Place Windows, but that doesn't set their size. The Bless hex editor ALWAYS opens with 14 hex columns instead of 16, which is a big fail.
[20:20] <nmatrix9> TJ: that is not workin for me
[20:20] <TJ-> nmatrix9: ignore my command! typo
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> Crazydog: cat /etc/issue
[20:20] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Try this: "tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog | grep mdadm | pastebinit"
[20:20] <Seveas> blargg: install ccsm, it may have an option to remember window sizes, not sure
[20:21] <fredouille> hello
[20:21] <blargg> glitsj16, I have it and I've searched for anything. The closest is fixed window size, but that implies I wouldn't be able to expand it vertically.
[20:21] <Crazydog> 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[20:22] <glitsj16> blargg: 'Place Windows' offers a fixed window placement where you can set X and Y positions .. or are you talking about an internal setting with Bless ?
[20:22] <fredouille> is it possible to keep open empathy in bottom of my screen ?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> blargg: it doesn't remember for me either
[20:22] <blargg> glitsj16, I'm talking about window *width*.
[20:22] <glitsj16> blargg: yes that's true
[20:23] <ghs> My network wifi in Kubuntu is dropping all the time, and can't return the connection again. Stay appears "Configuring interface". Can someone me help to fix ?
[20:23] <blargg> glitsj16, well, it'd be nice if Bless just made its default window wide enough, but the author claims that Ubuntu remembers it after you resize it the first time. It's such a fail for a hex editor to not use 16 columns.
[20:23] <glitsj16> blargg: i use devilspie for window placement/control, might have better luck with that
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> Crazydog: try running pastebinit with: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <DKFermi> Hi - anyone who has experience with conky?
[20:25] <nmatrix9> TJ: pastebin.com/qQchml7j
[20:25] <fredouille> conky is for console ?
[20:25] <DKFermi> monitoring widget for BSD/linux
[20:26] <Crazydog> I think i did it!!
[20:27] <Crazydog> Ok this is what I'm trying to configure.
[20:27] <Crazydog> paste.ubuntu.com/6776217/
[20:27] <blargg> glitsj16, wait, solved! Apparently the "Window Rules->Size rules->Fixed Size Windows" actually doesn't make the size fixed, it just sets the initial size. And if you leave one of the width/height zero, it doesn't affect that. Thanks for your ideas.
[20:28] <TJ-> nmatrix9: lol that wasn't a lot of use... it isn't being very verbose!
[20:28] <blargg> glitsj16, and that plugin doesn't even need to be enabled (checked in ccsm) to take effect, if one is trying to be somewhat lean.
[20:28] <glitsj16> blargg: nice find
[20:29] <blargg> glitsj16, oh crap, now it's not resizing it again. wtf...
[20:30] <glitsj16> blargg: odd that it worked without enabling the plugin ..
[20:31] <Buraee> when im trying to put DHCP by editor from tutorial , i lose inernet , and network-manger not work , im trying to return my internet manger
[20:31] <nmatrix9> TJ: sda definitely has data and boot parition,  I am thinking sda,sdb for striping and sdc and sdd for mirroring.
[20:32] <nmatrix9> TJ: just wish there was a utility to confirm
[20:32] <TJ-> nmatrix9: what you need to do is "--assemble -force " with the good devices, then re-add the ones that have failed. If you examine the "Update Time" of each array member you'll see that two members have earlier times than the other two. Those earlier members also show "Array State: AAAA" ....
[20:32] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[20:32] <blargg> glitsj16, ugh, it was Bless' internal window-size-restore that only works when you open the app without any files. The fixed size windows constantly resizes the window, and the zero height made it look like just a title bar. So that doesn't work. I'm going to email the author of Bless back and explain that it doesn't work like he thinks it does.
[20:33] <Crazydog> Cool, i'm learning! :P  Hey here is the the ./configure i run and this is the feedback it gives me
[20:33] <Crazydog> paste.ubuntu.com/6776241/
[20:33] <TJ-> nmatrix9: ... the two members with a later "Update Time" show "Array State: ..AA" ... those are your GOOD members ... they *know* that the array has lost 2 members. So you force those two to start ... then you re-add in sda2 and sdb1 to the array
[20:34] <Crazydog> Gives me config.status error: cannot find input file: 'Makefile.in'
[20:34] <glitsj16> blargg: yes good idea, ask him on what documentation he bases his statements on concerning remembering window sizes.. irritating issue
[20:35] <Crazydog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776241/
[20:36] <nmatrix9> TJ: so /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb1are AAAA force assembe those two and then later add the other two devices how?
[20:36] <glitsj16> blargg: i assume you've tried disabling the internal Bless setting (if that exists) and trying to give control only to ccsm?
[20:36] <blargg> glitsj16, great, now Bless windows resize into just a title bar but act like there's nothing there and the click just goes through to the window behind it, even though I've disabled the ccsm plugin.
[20:36] <blargg> glitsj16, yeah, tried many combinations of its options.
[20:37] <glitsj16> blargg: Bless .. in disguise it seems heh
[20:37] <TJ-> nmatrix9: so you'll do *something* like this: "mdadm --assemble -force /dev/md0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1" followed by "mdadm --incremental /dev/md0 /dev/sda2" then mdadm --incremental /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1"
[20:38] <TJ-> nmatrix9: not sure if you'll need "--rebuild-map" with the "--incremental"
[20:39] <nmatrix9> TJ: ok slightly confused so the ..AA are the good pairs?  And the AAAA Are the mirrors of thos pairs I thought it was reverse?
[20:39] <Crazydog> !ask
[20:40] <blargg> glitsj16, oh well, guess I'll have to reboot to get rid of these zombie bless windows. What a PITA.
[20:40] <nmatrix9> TJ: Just want to quadruple check
[20:40] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Read my explanation again earlier
[20:42] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Here's updated recommendation...
[20:42] <nmatrix9> TJ: ok I believe I see the logic in starting the .AA first
[20:43] <Crazydog> I run the automake.sh file and it spits this out, seems like I'm missing something.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776289/
[20:43] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Do "mdadm --assemble -force /dev/md0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1" then instead of 'incremental' just 'add' with "mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/sda2" then "mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/sdb1"
[20:44] <TJ-> nmatrix9: The clue in your output was that 2 members know the array is broken, and 2 don't. Logically those that know must be the good members.
[20:44] <nmatrix9> TJ: ok I see now.
[20:45] <TJ-> nmatrix9: The "Update Time" also shows how long ago it was that the array failed
[20:45] <TJ-> nmatrix9: so about 11 hours before the array was shutdown sda2 and sdb1 failed
[20:45] <boucanixx> can i install tool of kali linux on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:46] <Buraee> when im trying to put DHCP by editor from tutorial , i lose inernet , and network-manger not work , im trying to return my internet manger
[20:48]  * Crazydog slams his head against the keyboard... several times.
[20:48] <DrGrov> Running Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit. One thought, would it be easy to install KDE on top here or should I go with Kubuntu just directly? Love XFCE but a change from time to time would be nice.
[20:48] <MichaelTunnell> how would I go about updating an app in the repo...without waiting for someone to pull from debian repos...especially since debian repos dont have everything the ubuntu repos need...like libappindicator
[20:50] <nmatrix9> TJ: sudo mdadm --assemble -force /dev/md0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 gives me 'option -o not valid in assemble mode' not sure where the o came from.
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> MichaelTunnell: install from ppa or from source
[20:51] <glitsj16> DrGrov: it could be as easy as installing the correct meta-package .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE has a nice run-down on that
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: TJ- --force
[20:52] <nmatrix9> Ah
[20:52] <DrGrov> glitsj16: I know about the metapackage. Just not too sure about how it acts with XFCE since I am running Xubuntu already.
[20:52] <MichaelTunnell> hitsujiTMO: this is my app...I dont want Ubuntu to be outdated another two years like they seem to require
[20:52] <glitsj16> DrGrov: it will offer you another login option, so it shouldn't interfere
[20:53] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: nmatrix9 yes sorry, think fingers here
[20:53] <reimagineer> join #turpial
[20:53] <DrGrov> glitsj16: Okay, thank you. I will pick it then. I have quite some space on my root partition, 120GB SSD so it is definitely worth installing :)
[20:53]  * TJ- slaps self with a hammer
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> MichaelTunnell: contact the maintainer then.
[20:54] <nmatrix9> TJ: device or resource is busy for /dev/sdc1
[20:54] <glitsj16> DrGrov: always nice to have options indeed, enjoy
[20:54] <DrGrov> glitsj16: Thanks :)
[20:54] <aboudreault> anyidea why after a reboot, I can't get iptables working anymore ? FATAL: Module ip_tables not found....... iptables-restore v1.4.12: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'filter'
[20:54] <MichaelTunnell> where do I find the maintainer
[20:55] <MichaelTunnell> do they list them on launchpad? they dont list them on apps.ubuntu
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> MichaelTunnell: maintaining a ppa yourself would be good aswell. to find the maintainer: apt-cache show packagename | grep Maintainer                   that should give you a mailing list to contact
[20:55] <TJ-> nmatrix9: is the device already partially active? "cat /proc/mdstat"
[20:56] <MichaelTunnell> hitsujiTMO: we already do a PPA but I absolutely hate it when for two years people would report bugs for a app that is 8 versions old thanks purely to Ubuntu never updating it...then they finally update when Debian does but they pull in Debian package that does not contain the right content for Ubuntu...but I constantly report this and am forever ignored
[20:57] <MichaelTunnell> but I havent emailed the official maintainer so thanks for that I will try that now
[20:57] <MichaelTunnell> anyway thanks
[20:57] <nmatrix9> TJ: pastebin.com/09g8hikv
[20:57] <islandmonkey> Hello, is there any other way to deal with the recent Dropbox issues? sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dropbox/.dropbox-dist doesn't work.
[21:01] <iampoz> For some reason when I go to additional drivers, I do not see the nvidia drivers available. I just see four lines of this "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library"
[21:01] <iampoz> any suggestions?
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> iampoz: what gpu do you have?
[21:01] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Try stopping it first: "mdadm /dev/md0 --stop"
[21:02] <iampoz> GeForce GT 230M, I am running ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[21:02] <islandmonkey> iampoz: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings-current
[21:02] <islandmonkey> Aaand things should work fine
[21:03] <langemann> Hey all. I LOVE kate, but KDE is not my style. I don't like Geany, Sublime. Gedit is missing some features I like. Can I just sudo apt-get kate without thinking about it? I saw that command wanted to install amongst other things nepomuk...
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> iampoz: you'll also want bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:03] <iampoz> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-settings-current
[21:04] <islandmonkey> iampoz: Just try nvidia-settings then
[21:04] <langemann> Probably a question asked 10 times pr. day but I just couldn't find any conclusive answers.
[21:04] <zryan_> how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> langemann: you could also try sudo apt-get install kate --no-install-recommends
[21:06] <iampoz> I am trying what islandmonkey said, if it does not work then I will try bumblebee
[21:06] <langemann> hitsujiTMO, Thanks a bunch. Phonon* won't interfer with my system? I'm okay with libs really but I'm conserned about things like that. I see that I also have to accept nepomuk-core.
[21:06] <glitsj16> islandmonkey: did you use the dropbox deb?
[21:06] <islandmonkey> iampoz: You have an optimus laptop?
[21:06] <nmatrix9> TJ: I am getting /dev/md0 assembled from 2 drives not enough to start the array.  This raid has more twists and turns than a Sherlock Holmes mystery.
[21:06] <iampoz> no
[21:06] <langemann> I've tried doing things like this in the past, but they really fark up my system. The last time the unity audio mixer didn't work etc.
[21:07] <islandmonkey> iampoz: Bumblebee isn't a driver - it's a kernel module for optimus laptops so people can switch from integrated graphics to discrete
[21:07] <TJ-> nmatrix9: OK... I was afraid of that, because it is mirrored+striped ... I need to think :)
[21:08] <islandmonkey> glitsj16: Yes, originally (been installed since Christmas Day when I got this computer)
[21:08] <iampoz> Then I do not think I need bumblebee
[21:08] <islandmonkey> iampoz: No, you don't.
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> langemann: phonon is just api so should be ok
[21:09] <zryan_> how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
[21:09] <glitsj16> islandmonkey: you might try removing the dropbox package and install it again thru command line --> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[21:09] <langemann> hitsujiTMO, right you are! Thanks, I'll give it a try. Either way - reinstalling because I've experimented seems to be routine for me now, heh.
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> langemann: nepomuk seems to be just database related stuff. don't see it being harmful
[21:10] <nooob> Hi, I bricked my installation of Ubuntu, in order to restore with deja dup do I need to reinstall Ubuntu or can I just do it using a live cd?
[21:10] <langemann> hitsujiTMO, I'll just strangle nepomuk, I'm not afraid of that. Things that I can't see frakking up ubuntu (i.e. the sound) is what I'm afraid of :)
[21:10] <iampoz> I had to install a driver version for nvidia from their site in order to be able to play this game... the game worked fine, but a number of other applications started to crash on load. minitube in particular with "no suitable services discovery module minitube". B1 archiver is another, and Tuxboot loads but the drop down menu crashes
[21:11] <zryan_> how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
[21:11] <iampoz> when I say crashes, I mean it essentially logs me off within 0.5 seconds
[21:11] <zryan_> ???
[21:11] <islandmonkey> iampoz: That's not really GPU specific - you ought to check for other issues.
[21:12] <zryan_> how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> langemann: well, as you said, its almost all libs, rest seems to be just api or other support. so shouldn't mess the system
[21:12] <iampoz> it might not be, but it started when I installed the updated graphics driver from nvidia... any help on debugging this issue?
[21:12] <zryan_> hi all
[21:12] <Ziefin> anyone know of a audio driver for SupremeFX II on Ubuntu 10.04
[21:12] <langemann> hitsujiTMO, thanks mate.
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> langemann: just did a simulated install with -s. no conflicts or anything
[21:13] <TJ-> nmatrix9: OK, I have another approach for you. "mdadm /dev/md0 --stop" ...
[21:13] <zryan_> IE not install on PlayOnLinux???
[21:13] <langemann> hitsujiTMO, install went fine though so probably no problem. :)
[21:14] <nmatrix9> TJ: Ok
[21:14] <islandmonkey> Ziefin: Is this is desktop installation of 10.04?
[21:14] <TJ-> nmatrix9: Then we'll try to force an assemble... I'm just figuring out the correct sequence...
[21:14] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: Yes
[21:15] <islandmonkey> Ziefin: Sorry - not supported here. Any reason why you're still on 10.04?
[21:15] <islandmonkey> !eol
[21:15] <TJ-> nmatrix9: "mdadm --assemble -v --scan --force --run --uuid=70767ef7:d2bb0cf9:c31ea2f0:6a3681c4"
[21:15] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: Well 12.04 or 13.01 does not support the network card i have for the motherboard im using
[21:16] <iampoz> Ziefin, whats your chipset?
[21:16] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: im using an ASUS P5n32-sli Premium Motherboard
[21:16] <islandmonkey> Ziefin: Tried 13.10?
[21:17] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: yup
[21:17] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: 00:11.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2)
[21:17] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: there's two of them
[21:18] <Ziefin> and the other one is
[21:18] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: 03:07.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: D-Link System Inc Device [1186:4302] (rev 10)
[21:18] <Ziefin> is the one that removable
[21:18] <zryan_> how to install videocalling facebook on ubuntu?
[21:18] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: not supported out of Kern 2.6
[21:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:20] <glitsj16> zryan_: it's not something you can install .. Facebook does not support video calling on linux yet --> https://www.facebook.com/help/?page=177940565599960
[21:20] <islandmonkey> Ziefin: Ah, I see. Seems like you have an issue of a rare hardware setup (NVIDIA ethernet???)
[21:20] <islandmonkey> glitsj16: Nope, ain't working
[21:20] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: no doubt
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> islandmonkey: comes with nforce chipsets. twas horrible to deal with in its time
[21:21] <Ziefin> islandmonkey: i mean i could probably rewrite the driver but do not want to
[21:21] <islandmonkey> glitsj16: Nope, ain't working
[21:22] <islandmonkey> glitsj16: Related to http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/fix-dropbox-fails-to-start-with.html if you were wondering
[21:22] <idaniel> Is my Ubuntu 12.04 updated to the latest LTS (12.03.3)? How can I tell? New here with this.
[21:22] <idaniel> Oops I mean the latest 12.04.3
[21:22] <omnihil> hi folks
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             also if you want the latest kernel in your stack: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:23] <TJ-> idaniel: "lsb_release -a"
[21:23] <nmatrix9> TJ: /dev/md0 has been started with 4 drives
[21:23] <TJ-> nmatrix9: YAY!!!! :)
[21:23] <idaniel> o.k. I'll look
[21:23] <glitsj16> islandmonkey: yes i assumed that you already tried the webupd8 proposed fix
[21:23] <TJ-> nmatrix9: OK, "cat /proc/mdstat | pastebinit"
[21:24] <omnihil> i'm going desperate about one problem: WHY cant i install ponysay (for my lil daughter), added rep ppa:vincent-c/ppa, updated, cant find package, OH WHYYY? :)
[21:24] <idaniel> YES! I'
[21:24] <zryan_> IE9-Windows7-x86-enu not install on wine and playonlinux
[21:24] <idaniel> yes, I have 12.04.4    That must be the latest.
[21:24] <nmatrix9> TJ: Is there anything else that needs to be done so I don't have to manually reassmble on every reboot?
[21:25] <TJ-> nmatrix9: lets look at the output of /proc/mdstat ... it should be rebuilding the array now ... once that is completed it will be back to normal
[21:25] <zryan_> IE9-Windows7-x86-enu not install on wine and playonlinux
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> zryan_: why do you want ie9?
[21:26] <Ziefin> oh here's a good question
[21:26] <Ziefin> anyone have a good work around for netflix on ubuntu?
[21:26] <Ziefin> without wine
[21:27] <idaniel> I still want the LTS, so should I do the directions "hitsujiTMO" said to do? I think I'm there though with Ubuntu 12.04.4, right?
[21:27] <nmatrix9> TJ:  It looks good pastebin.com/dx7q3cr6
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Ziefin: vm
[21:27] <Ziefin> figures
[21:27] <Ziefin> ya already do that
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: they just update the packages to latest version. not a new distribution
[21:28] <idaniel> Do the updates that come update the packages to the latest version anyway?
[21:28] <TJ-> nmatrix9: OK .. let it finish the resync before doing anything major
[21:28] <TJ-> nmatrix9: then you should be OK
[21:29] <nmatrix9> TJ: ok
[21:29] <TJ-> nmatrix9: hitsujiTMO This is a good lesson in why I recommend RAID 1+0 rather than RAID10 ... much easier to recover from a failed 1+0 !
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: lol. must remember that.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: thanks for taking over. i've not much experience with failed raids
[21:32] <nmatrix9> TJ: You know what after the resync and after I get in my machine I am gonna copy my files over and rebuild it to raid 1+0.  This raid 10 is too much a pain
[21:32] <nmatrix9> TJ: with LVM
[21:32] <pfifo> why not zfs
[21:33] <nmatrix9> pfifo was that question for me?
[21:34] <idaniel> hitsujiTMO    do the regular updates that we get update everything to current anyway?
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> idaniel: yes
[21:34] <idaniel> o.k.  thank you
[21:34] <pfifo> nmatrix9: i guess, wasnt really a question, just a thought
[21:35] <nmatrix9> Pfifo: not familiar with zfs didn't the creator kill his wife or something?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: that was reiserfs
[21:36] <nmatrix9> hitsujiTMO: Ah my mistake
[21:36] <pfifo> reiserfs is crap
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> nmatrix9: zfs not being supported in linux is a good reason not to use it :P
[21:38] <fredouille> help ! i want to install Teamspeak please !
[21:39] <nmatrix9> Pfifo: I just want what is supported and won't give me headaches.  I just want my system to function without hassle.
[21:39] <Crazydog> Someone please help my compile something.  I'm getting errors and cant seem to make the Makefile.in
[21:40] <hdon> hi all :) how do i make .cpp files open with gvim by default?
[21:41] <hdon> more info: Ubuntu 12.04, using Unity desktop atm, and mostly i'm interested in double-click to open in Nautilus and File Roller
[21:42] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: here's an ironic tip for you - happened to me this morning. Server in the rack called 'caddy' used for big disk tasks has lots of different hot-swap caddies in it. Did a disk clone overnight, this morning did md5sums to check and found them different on the backup every time i ran md5sum! No disk errors reported. Eventually fired it up on the KVM and ran memtest86+ ... bad RAM ... identified and pulled the module, confirmed OK. rebooted ...rootfs on MD
[21:42] <TJ->  RAID1 failed... added "bootdegraded=true" and retried...
[21:42] <pfifo> hdon: im not on unity right now, but i know you right click the cpp file, goto properties, and on the opwn with tab set it to gvim
[21:42] <hdon> pfifo, i'll give it a try, thanks
[21:43] <hdon> that seems to have done the trick. thanks pfifo
[21:43] <pfifo> ive never seens a non physically damaged ram
[21:43] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: It got stuck in a loop inside initrd.img constantly reloading the degraded array... I couldn't figure out why it had lost a member. I had touched some cables so thought maybe I disconnected one. Checked - all fine. Then happened to look at one of the caddies and realised whilst pulling the case out of the rack I'd managed to flick the lock button to unlock., so one drive wasn't active!
[21:48] <zipcord> I'm having problems booting from my usb flas drive and installing unbuntu. Any help would be great, I'm just diving into the tech and programming world and love it.
[21:48] <nmatrix9> TJ: any tips on how to avoid this issue again if possible?
[21:48] <TJ-> nmatrix9: unless we know how it happened its hard to say. Have a UPS powering the system is always a help
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: lol. gotta love the days when you jump from one problem to another. Never had a server room in my last job, had a "cage" instead. tight space lead to simalar problems with one of the blade severs going thru a wall so it it would fit. at the other side of the wall was a stairway where peeps were prequently carry large objucts up and down. the odd time someone would hit off the server knocking a cable out, leading to lots of frantic runn
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> ing around trying to figure why a server went down. wish i had some photos
[21:49] <nmatrix9> Ah forget that las question any recommended tutrials on raid 1+0  with lvm for ubuntu newbies?
[21:50] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: wait? a cage? for the server or for the admin?
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: servers
[21:51] <fpghost84> I'm trying to set a super user in grub 2.00-19 for windows. I've always done this without issue in the past by adding the whole --users "" thing, and set superusers in 00_header. However now, in Ubuntu 13.10, this seems to password protect everything even the ubuntu booter....what has changed?
[21:51] <nmatrix9> TJ: I am a intermediate linux user any recommended tutorials on setting a raid 1+ 0 with lvm?
[21:51] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: LOL that's made my day imagining that :D
[21:52] <TJ-> nmatrix9: My best advise is set up a VM and assign it a few virtual 200MB disks and PLAY!
[21:52] <TJ-> nmatrix9: that's the best way to learn... you can fail members at will in all sorts of ways and see what the logs show, what effects it causes, and figure out how to recover
[21:53] <zipcord> Yeah I haven't even dived into the programming languages enough to actually make any difference for myself.
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> zipcord: where is it going wrong. whats happening?
[21:55] <zipcord> Not sure won't even boot from the flash drive, I'm able to get the iso file off the main website
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> !md5 | zipcord verify the iso first
[21:56] <zipcord> It does try boot from a disc whenever I get a hold of a disc
[21:58] <zipcord> Thanks if your info doesnt work I will come back here and ask for help again
[21:58] <neworder> Hi guys
[21:58] <Crazydog> Do i have to install libcurl and other dependices in the root dir?
[21:59] <fpghost84> Does grub force a password on all boot options nowadays is set superusers is set in 00_header?
[21:59] <fpghost84> is=if*
[22:01] <fpghost84> Ah, sorry I just read in the wiki that the scheme changed in quantal (In Ubuntu Quantal or later, if no user(s) are designated for a specific menuentry, access to that entry will be limited to the superuser. )
[22:03] <fpghost84> Looks like I need to use  --unrestricted on the Ubuntu menuentry in 10_linux to allow it without a passw?
[22:04] <neworder> How much memory should I allocate for my Ubuntu installation on VM
[22:05] <neworder> if I want it to be fast
[22:05] <neworder> is 4 GB more than enough
[22:05] <neworder> ?
[22:05] <neworder> I want it to fly.. =)
[22:13] <Forty-3> can I change the location of apt-get cfg files?
[22:13] <Forty-3> (i.e in an unsecure installation)
[22:17] <geirha> neworder: I'd say so. You can easily increase or decrease it later though
[22:17] <geirha> so whatever you choose is not final
[22:18] <honeybuntu> The current avg linux antivirus  app  is not compatible with for linux ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS . The 12.04 LTS kernel is an advanced version which will not function correctly with linux ubuntu 12.04  LTS or ubuntu 13.10. clam tk (antivirus) scans windows programs thru while utilizing the linux OS to do so (handy if you are running a dual boot system  such as  Windows XP  & Linux.
[22:19] <honeybuntu> Oh well, least i didn't have any crash/dumps while attempting the install of avg antivirus program.
[22:19] <geirha> Did you use google translate for that?
[22:22] <honeybuntu> correction: the avg antivirus app will not function properly with linux ubuntu 12.04 LTS or ubuntu 13.10  being that these linux operating systems utilize a newer version of the linux kernel.
[22:25] <honeybuntu> Have a question.
[22:26] <geirha> honeybuntu: ah, and avg is not in the repostories, so you downloaded a binary package from avg's homesite?
[22:26] <honeybuntu> Correct, downloaded it from avg free downloads URL
[22:27] <SchrodingersScat> avast was also terrible on linux
[22:27] <geirha> That's unfortunate I guess, but we can't really help avg being slow at updating :/
[22:27] <honeybuntu> Opened it with Ubuntu Software Center and then began installing it via command line/terminal
[22:28] <splashman> hi i have write a udev rule but i do not how
[22:29] <honeybuntu> SchrodingerScat one can only hope that avg or avast will keep up with linux's progressive pace.
[22:32] <honeybuntu> this is my first attempt at running anything other than good old "redhat" from days of old. "Once upon a windows 8 pc" cured me of anymore foibles with that OS.
[22:34] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I list eg. all *.wmv files in a webpage?
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  you mean from the source?
[22:35] <geirha> that's very vague; expect widely differing answers
[22:35] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba: curl http://webpage | grep -i wmv ## better regex==better results
[22:36] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I will check it now
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> SchrodingersScat  i guess that was for you
[22:37] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: I think for anyone with an answer.
[22:37] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: oops, i see now.
[22:38] <honeybuntu> Went to the local pc retail store and looked over the new mac book pros - all peripherals soddered onto the "mobo".  Very disappointing, no room for upgrade/improvement. Its linux for me on any pc that will have it.
[22:38] <onintza> o
[22:38] <onintza> xD
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> honeybuntu  great, but not in this channel, please
[22:40] <BlueShark> I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10 and now I'm having troubles with DNS resolving. I've tried dkpg --reconfigure resolvconf and tried manually editing /etc/resolv.conf but the issue is still not resolved. Can anyone help?
[22:42] <honeybuntu> my apologies. Has anyone seen a reasonably good list of linux commands (defined)/corresponding syntax?
[22:42] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: when I use curl, where the file is going to be saved as output?
[22:43] <SchrodingersScat> !man | honeybuntu
[22:44] <honeybuntu> Domain name server possibly having conflicts resolving due to possible proxy settings, perhaps?
[22:44] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba: without the -O flag curl should output to stdout
[22:44] <splashman> someone knows about hardware can help me?
[22:44] <honeybuntu> Ah! Thank you kindly SchrodingersScat.
[22:44] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | splashman
[22:45] <BlueShark> honeybuntu, was that in reply to my question?
[22:45] <splashman> i need write an udev rule
[22:45] <SchrodingersScat> honeybuntu: as far as finding out which programs you want to use, that can be a little more difficult.
[22:45] <pvl1> where are bookmarks stored
[22:45] <honeybuntu> yes Blueshark.
 i have write an udev rule
[22:46] <TJ-> BlueShark: dnsmasq is usually installed by default as a local resolver
[22:46] <SchrodingersScat> !udev | splashman
[22:46] <BlueShark> honeybuntu, Everything was working perfectly before. I am not sure what caused this. How can I find out? Are there are some logs?
[22:46] <TJ-> BlueShark: "/etc/resolv.conf" will usually point to dnsmasq at 127.0.01
[22:46] <NEone> Hi. On 12.10 I can't login to Unity (it logs in and out very quick), but still can login to GNOME or GnomeClassic. The problem is specific to my main user. I created another user and that one can login to Unity without any problem. I already tried deleting ./Xauthority but that didn't help.
[22:46] <splashman> but how¿
[22:47] <splashman> what i have to do with that¿
[22:47] <TJ-> BlueShark: Are you using a desktop install that uses Network Manager?
[22:47] <honeybuntu> dns mask (dns masq) is default.
[22:47] <SchrodingersScat> splashman: sorry, ubottu didn't display the error, ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about udev
[22:47] <TJ-> BlueShark: If so, check "/var/log/syslog" ... Network Manager is usually very verbose
[22:47] <honeybuntu> Nice TJ.
[22:48] <BlueShark> Sorry I didn't mention this before. I'm talking about the Ubuntu installed on my VPS. Does it make a difference?
[22:48] <ItalianStallion> Hi I need some help, I just installed ubuntu and after it asks me to restart, I do that and then my display says invalid format and i hit enter on my keyboard a few times and it goes to the ubuntu screen and I get this screen http://i.imgur.com/3TWvGW5.jpg and then after that the display turns purple like the background color..and my system freezes
[22:48] <TJ-> honeybuntu: If NM is getting the DNS server IPs via DHCP, it'll configure the instance of dnsmasq it controls with them
[22:48] <honeybuntu> Net Mngr is verbose but not always in "layman's terms".
[22:48] <NEone> How do I get my main user back to being able to log into Unity again?
[22:49] <TJ-> honeybuntu: If you do "ps -efly  | grep dnsmasq" you'll be able to view the command-line options including the configuration-file that NM starts dnsmasq with
[22:49] <mojtaba> Schrodinger:thanks
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> NEone  what happens when you try to login?
[22:49] <TJ-> honeybuntu: maybe, but it allows you to pastebin the relevant output from the log for experts to review
[22:49] <Stalkr_> Hey, I have a tmux attached, how do I deattach it so I am back no ssh? I can't do ctrl-d for some read
[22:49] <Stalkr_> reason*
[22:50] <NEone> MonkeyDust: It accepts the password, screen goes black for like half a second, then returns to the login screen again.
[22:50] <nmatrix9> TJ: rebooting
[22:50] <adilalpman> hi everyone
[22:50] <honeybuntu> Graphics driver could be a problem with the system freeze. I had similar problem after toying with Compiz.
[22:50] <TJ-> nmatrix9: good luck :)
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> Stalkr_  is this useful http://blog.hawkhost.com/2010/06/28/tmux-the-terminal-multiplexer/
[22:51] <nmatrix9> TJ: It worked!
[22:51] <adilalpman> i have just bought a new toshiba laptop and i have ap roblem with ubuntu & windows multiboot option in it
[22:51] <TJ-> NEone: switch to a TTY (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and the see if there's a ~/.Xauthority file left behind... if so, "rm" it then try again
[22:51] <adilalpman> can anybody help me?
[22:51] <profligacy> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=1a70nt2e6jxzu
[22:51] <TJ-> nmatrix9: That's what I like... a RAID that comes back from the dead :)
[22:51] <BlueShark> TJ-, This is what /etc/resolv.conf contains right now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776889/
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> NEone  ctrl-alt F1, login troubleshoot from there
[22:52] <NEone> TJ-: It was. But it was empty. I deleted it, but that didn't solve the problem.
[22:52] <TJ-> BlueShark: and it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[22:52] <Stalkr_> MonkeyDust: ctrlb d doesn't do anything, I want to exit tmux
[22:52] <nmatrix9> TJ: If you are ever in Kitchener, Ontario let me buy you a beer!
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> adilalpman  start with a question
[22:52] <Stalkr_> So I am back to bash
[22:52] <TJ-> NEone: OK... you're head of us then... if it is using lightdm, review the logs at "/var/log/lightdm/*"
[22:53] <TJ-> nmatrix9: gee thanks :)
[22:53] <adilalpman> i have installed win7 in it and when i installed it i disabled uefi from the bios
[22:53] <adilalpman> then uefi is still disabled
[22:53] <honeybuntu> Thank you, TJ. I want to give the "ps -efly" a "go".
[22:53] <bekks> adilalpman: Windows 7 isnt capable of doing that.
[22:53] <NEone> MonkeyDust: Yes, ready
[22:53] <adilalpman> what not capable for that?
[22:53] <adilalpman> beeks
[22:54] <TJ-> honeybuntu: first thing I'd do is reset "/etc/resolv.conf" to "nameserver 127.0.0.1" after ensuring NM is controlling an instance of dnsmasq
[22:54] <bekks> adilalpman: Windows 7 isnt capable of disabling UEFI.
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> Stalkr_  simply     exit    maybe
[22:54] <adilalpman> beeks : yes capable i installed it after disabled uefi
[22:54] <adilalpman> i know what i did
[22:54] <adilalpman> :)
[22:54] <NEone> TJ-: Okay, reviewing that log. But I can already tell you it's specific to Unity PLUS specific to that particular user. Because other desktop-manager than Unity (like Gnome) still work. And other users loggin into Unity works too.
[22:54] <Stalkr_> MonkeyDust: I must try that next time, this time I just restarted Terminal, killed the session and started it again
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> NEone  ok, now make sure no parrtition is 100% full (or near 100%)
[22:55] <adilalpman> beeks : can i resume?
[22:55] <ItalianStallion> Hello can someone help me please
[22:55] <honeybuntu> Very efficient, TJ. Saves time avoiding reconfig
[22:55] <TJ-> NEone: Look at the greeter and session logs in particular, they often yield clues
[22:55] <bekks> adilalpman: I know it isnt capable of doing so, and thats no ubuntu support issue in here I guess.
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  if you're sweet
[22:55] <NEone> MonkeyDust: Alright. All partitions have enough free space.
[22:55] <ItalianStallion> yes im very sweet can you please help me
[22:56] <NEone> Where to find "greeter and session" logs?
[22:56] <adilalpman> beeks : do u mean if i installed windows 7 with disable ueefi i cant get help from here?
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  just ask your question and wait
[22:56] <bekks> adilalpman: Not unless you have an Ubuntu support issue.
[22:56] <BlueShark> TJ-, yeah, so I didn't edit it by hand.
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> NEone: lightdm greeter logs are in /var/log/lightdm/
[22:57] <SchrodingersScat> Stalkr_: so you can't detach?  ctrl-b d ?
[22:57] <ItalianStallion> I just installed ubuntu and after it asks me to restart, I do that and then my display says invalid format and i hit enter on my keyboard a few times and it goes to the ubuntu screen and I get this screen http://i.imgur.com/3TWvGW5.jpg and then after that the display turns purple like the background color..and my system freezes
[22:57] <adilalpman> beeks : i will resume if u let me
[22:57] <adilalpman> :)
[22:57] <ItalianStallion> there is my question/problem
[22:57] <Stalkr_> SchrodingersScat: Maybe I am in the wrong pane, but no, it doesn't do anything
[22:57] <bekks> adilalpman: I am not stopping you from anything - I just pointed out that your first assumption was wrong.
[22:57] <TJ-> bekks: I think you misread; adilalpman said "when i installed it i disabled uefi from the bios" not disabled it from Windows 7
[22:57] <SchrodingersScat> Stalkr_: other keybinds work? maybe it's set to something else, should check the config
[22:58] <Stalkr_> SchrodingersScat: Nothing really does anything, besides putting it as text
[22:58] <Stalkr_> ^B for example
[22:58] <BlueShark> TJ-, I was going through https://www.stgraber.org/?p=366 and edited /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base instead.
[22:58] <bekks> TJ-: And even Ubuntu isnt capable of disabling UEFI.
[22:58] <SchrodingersScat> Stalkr_: is this through putty?
[22:58] <Stalkr_> SchrodingersScat: Terminal
[22:59] <Stalkr_> or rather iTerm for OS X
[22:59] <TJ-> adilalpman: what's your question?
[22:59] <Stalkr_> I do have a SSH connection to my Ubuntu Server though
[22:59] <adilalpman> beeks : after that know i try to install kubuntu in that laptop but i cant because my kubuntu cant see the laptops hdd and it told me that guid is on the hdd or sth like that
[22:59] <adilalpman> beeks : i searched about a little bit in the internet and sources told me that use gparted
[23:00] <SchrodingersScat> Stalkr_: right, I asked about putty because sometimes it's finicky about which ctrl you use, whether it's held down, etc.  I've not used iTerm to know if it has similar quirks.
[23:00] <adilalpman> beeks : but i cant understand how can i do it, because there is no option in the installation to use gparted instead of fdisk
[23:00] <Stalkr_> SchrodingersScat: I could give the ordinary Terminal a shot
[23:00] <TJ-> adilalpman: You used the liveISO desktop installer?
[23:00] <OerHeks> ha ha ha https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/eufloriahd/ $50,000
[23:00] <honeybuntu> correct, TJ - those tweaks reside in the BIOS settings. (example is: Disable UEFI, Launch CSM)
[23:00] <adilalpman> TJ - : i used nrmal x64 cd that i dl from the ubuntus website
[23:01] <TJ-> adilalpman: OK, and you ran "Install" and it couldn't find the hard disk?
[23:02] <adilalpman> TJ - : when i boot my cd and started to install installation see mt hdd all empty and it told me gpt found in the disk when i go console with alt+f2 and i input fdisk -*l command from there in the installation
[23:02] <ItalianStallion> Hello?
[23:02] <androidbruce> i'm installing ubuntu and im wondering if it is hung.  init: starting pid 390. tty '/dev/tty2' " -/bin/sh'
[23:02] <bekks> adilalpman: fdisk isnt capable of dealing with GPT.
[23:03] <honeybuntu> Use gparted (and then check the disk utility to see if there are any partition alignment discrepancies, as well).
[23:03] <adilalpman> but how can i use gparted instaed of fdisk in the installation program?
[23:03] <honeybuntu> Use the "Something Else" option.
[23:03] <adilalpman> where is it?
[23:04] <androidbruce> strike that it's moving a long
[23:04] <SchrodingersScat> androidbruce: good luck
[23:04] <adilalpman> icant understand sorry
[23:04] <TJ-> adilalpman: OK ... if the disk has a GPT then the installer should be able to work with that... you did let the GUI installer disk partitioner start?
[23:04] <honeybuntu> "Something Else" option is inclusive in the setup of Ubuntu 13.10  and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[23:05] <adilalpman> TJ : after the default hdd partition program started in the kubuntu installation it shows me that my cdd is whole empty but it is not
[23:05] <adilalpman> not cdd i mean hdd sorry :)
[23:05] <TJ-> adilalpman: Which version of Kubuntu is that? It sounds like it is very old
[23:06] <adilalpman> no it is 13.10
[23:06] <adilalpman> 13.10 x64
[23:06] <TJ-> adilalpman: all the installers should know about GPT disks
[23:06] <runvnc> Hello.  I just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 using do-release-upgrade.  Problem is that even though the 3.0 kernel is installed, it is booting to 2.6.38-16-server
[23:06] <runvnc> I tried running update-grub
[23:06] <TJ-> adilalpman: really? that is strange
[23:06] <adilalpman> TJ- : sorry but not
[23:06] <honeybuntu> Each partition retains data pertinent unto itself.
[23:06] <bekks> runvnc: Then choose the new kernel from the grub menu.
[23:06] <runvnc> I don't think its available in the menu bekks
[23:06] <runvnc> I am remote
[23:06] <honeybuntu> The hard disk itself contains a master boot record.
[23:07] <bekks> runvnc: then check wether it is available in the menu.
[23:07] <TJ-> adilalpman: We would need to test it in a Virtual Machine to understand that adilalpman; I'm afraid I'm at a loss on why the installer wouldn't see the GPT
[23:07] <ItalianStallion> Are you done honeybuntu? are you done yet please?
[23:07] <runvnc> but I was looking at the menu entries in the file
[23:07] <runvnc> and it didnt list any 3.0 anything
[23:07] <runvnc> what is the config file with the menu entries again
[23:07] <bekks> runvnc: Then install it.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: why did you upgrade from 10.04 to the unsupported 11.10 and not to the supported 12.04?
[23:07] <runvnc> dont think 3.0 is in there
[23:07] <NEone> TJ-/MonkeyDust: I didn't find anything useful within those logs. But I tried "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm", then reboot, then creating a new user and log into Unitiy with that one, then reboot again, then trying to log into Unity with my old main user - and finally that worked again:)
[23:07] <runvnc> hitsujiTMO how do I upgrade to 12.04
[23:07] <runvnc> did not know I could upgrade directly from 10 to 12
[23:07] <TJ-> NEone: nice workaround!
[23:08] <NEone> Problem solved, even if I don't know how and why...
[23:08] <runvnc> I want to get to 12
[23:08] <TJ-> NEone: frustrating but relieving
[23:08] <honeybuntu> Done.
[23:08] <runvnc> but I dont have disk space so I need to delete one of the old kernel images
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> !eolupgrade | runvnc
[23:08] <runvnc> but I cant do that until I get it to boot to a new one
[23:08] <NEone> lol, yeah. Thanks for your help.
[23:08] <adilalpman> TJ : many internet sources told me that u can see ur hdd parts if u use gparted instead of fdisk but there is no option in the installation program
[23:09] <androidbruce> can you boot from mdadm?
[23:09] <zcheng3> /wr
[23:09] <runvnc> I am going to do-release-upgrade again to get to a newer ubuntu but I cant until I can get it to boot on the newer kernel because I have to delete the old kernels to have space
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: boot to 2.6. remove the older kernels. then continue the upgrades.
[23:09] <Myrtti> ItalianStallion: just ask your question again
[23:09] <ItalianStallion> CAN I GET SOME HELP PLEASE, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO ASK MY QUESTION BEFORE I CAN GET HELP?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | ItalianStallion
[23:09] <honeybuntu> Don't shout.
[23:09] <TJ-> adilalpman: disks can have 2 partitioning schemes. With BIOS systems its MBR (master boot record), with UEFI its GPT (or some with do MBR if they have the CSM (compatibility support module) enabled)
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> you've been talking for the past 20 minutes already hollandheese
[23:10] <runvnc> hitsuji the problem is I just did a release upgrade and it booted to my old kernel. so if I do what you are asking, I probably will get locked out of the system, and I am in san diego, and the system is in new york
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> honeybuntu
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> are you done yet?
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> please, are you done?
[23:10] <honeybuntu> Do you have pertinent data on that HDD now?
[23:10] <runvnc> because it is not showing the new kernel in the grub config file
[23:10] <TJ-> adilalpman: all installers should read both without issue
[23:10] <honeybuntu> ItalianStallion?
[23:10] <Myrtti> ItalianStallion: are you asking your question or not?
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> I just installed ubuntu and after it asks me to restart, I do that and then my display says invalid format and i hit enter on my keyboard a few times and it goes to the ubuntu screen and I get this screen http://i.imgur.com/3TWvGW5.jpg and then after that the display turns purple like the background color..and my system freezes
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> there is my question
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: why would you get locked out of the system?
[23:10] <bekks> ItalianStallion: Thats no question^- thats just a description of something you did.
[23:10] <adilalpman> TJ : but default hdd partition program is fdisk as u know in kubuntu or ubuntu 13.10 installer
[23:10] <ItalianStallion> well then that is my problem, ok
[23:11] <Myrtti> ItalianStallion: so it freezes before or after you login?
[23:11] <ItalianStallion> I have a problem with my UBUNTU INSTALLATION and I need help
[23:11] <runvnc> hitsujiTMO grub config does not know about the 3.0 kernel. if I delete the other older kernel files it does know about it, then it will not be able to boot
[23:11] <runvnc> and I will not be able to ssh in
[23:11] <honeybuntu> What type of machine/pc/mac are you running linux on Italian Stallion?
[23:11] <Myrtti> ItalianStallion: any other error messages?
[23:11] <ItalianStallion> yes it brings up the screen that I showed you, and then it freezes
[23:11] <TJ-> adilalpman: "fdisk" is for MBR ... "gdisk" is for GPT. the installer uses parted I think, which can handle both MBR and GPT
[23:11] <ItalianStallion> there are no error messages Myrtti
[23:11] <Myrtti> ItalianStallion: so you're not typing your password and it just vanishes
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: runvnc dont delete the latest 2.6 kernel. delete the ones before that
[23:11] <ItalianStallion> i dont get a chance to type my password
[23:11] <Myrtti> right
[23:12] <neworder> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my VirtualBox
[23:12] <honeybuntu> Are you dual-booting Linux ubuntu with a windows operating system/
[23:12] <ItalianStallion> at first i was, but it was doing the same thing thats happening now, so i just decided to install over the previous one
[23:12] <runvnc> for some reason hitsuji it is booting to 2.6.38-16 even though I have 2.6.38-32 and 2.6.35-28 and 3.0
[23:12] <neworder> but I get this message "some of the partitions you created are too small"
[23:13] <bekks> neworder: Then you have to create larger ones.
[23:13] <neworder> I dynamically allocated an 8 GB drive
[23:13] <honeybuntu> Reformatted and re-installed, ItalianStallion?
[23:13] <runvnc> if I finish the upgrade is that going to fix grub so that the new kernels appear in the config file
[23:13] <neworder> But isn't the dynamically allocated 8 GB drive sufficient?
[23:13] <ItalianStallion> i just selected the option called install over this version
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: then dont delete that one. delete others.
[23:13] <bekks> neworder: drive size is not partition size.
[23:14] <neworder> Ah I Se
[23:14] <neworder> see*
[23:14] <honeybuntu> Try creating a new installation media.
[23:14] <ItalianStallion> are you talking to me
[23:14] <ItalianStallion> i'm installing it from a USB FLASH DRIVE
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: keep 16, keep the latest. clean up. make sure its stable. then continue
[23:15] <honeybuntu> Did you install from a DVD/CD created from an Ubuntu  ISO file or did you use a USB thumb drive  ItalianStallion?
[23:15] <honeybuntu> Ok.
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> hitsujiTMO  ubuntu-tweak is a handy tool to clean obsolete kernels http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[23:15] <ItalianStallion> I made a BOOTABLE USB FLASH DRIVE
[23:16] <MonkeyDust> hitsujiTMO  that was not for you
[23:16] <honeybuntu> You sure you created the bootable USB properly?
[23:16] <MonkeyDust> runvnc   ubuntu-tweak is a handy tool to clean obsolete kernels http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[23:16] <ItalianStallion> yes I AM SURE
[23:16] <runvnc> does ubuntu-tweak run on the command line monkeydust
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> runvnc  guess i missed something, you don't have a gui?
[23:17] <runvnc> no I am remoting in and its a server and I had some issues with a gnome process before so I remove all of the desktop stuff a long time ago
[23:17] <runvnc> removed
[23:18] <honeybuntu> The bootloader/GRUB is in tact but somewhere in setup procedure there is a fault.
[23:18] <ItalianStallion> I used the Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.2 on the website like it said
[23:20] <runvnc> is the 2.6.38-16 kernel compatible with 12.0? because I have a feeling if I just do another release upgrade without getting a newer kernel setup for grub, it is going to try to run that old kernel again with ubuntu 12, and something wont work
[23:21] <honeybuntu> What size is your HDD and what size are your partitions (Ext4 journalizing format for ubuntu filesystem)  and the Swap space  (what size is your swap space  partition)
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: many 13.10 pv vms run on 2.6 so i'd guess it is
[23:21] <ItalianStallion> my HDD is 320 GB
[23:21] <ItalianStallion> i dont remember what the partition sizes are or the swap space
[23:21] <runvnc> ok so hitsuji you think that the do-release-upgrade is going to fix my grub
[23:22] <runvnc> because I have to use the newer kernel
[23:22] <runvnc> to run docker
[23:22] <honeybuntu> Nothing on that 320 GB HDD but the ubuntu operating system?
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: do got it in a stable space with enough free space this time?
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> stable state*
[23:23] <runvnc> I dont think I have enough space yet
[23:23] <runvnc> I dont know what you mean by stable
[23:23] <ItalianStallion> thats all honeybuntu
[23:23] <honeybuntu> What were you running on that HDD before Ubuntu?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: right now, if you restarted would it boot?
[23:23] <ItalianStallion> WINDOWS VISTA
[23:23] <runvnc> I think so because I just restarted before and it booted
[23:23] <runvnc> to the old kernel
[23:24] <honeybuntu> Eww. Did you format the HDD completely before you installed Ubuntu?
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: ok. df -h                   make sure you have enough free space before continuing
[23:24] <lix> Good day. Will there ever be a CalDAV/CardDav compatible Calendar and Addressbook Client in Ubuntu? SogoConnectorr fails, Lightning pluging for Thunderbird only synchronises one way, pyconnector works just fine with mutt to synch email addresses etc. so to say it short: it's just massively annoying. Further: many friends who want to switch from OS X to GNU/Linux ask me if there is a *workjing* PIM in Ubuntu. - Well apparently there is not... Apple users complain, 
[23:24] <TJ-> runvnc: Does that system use a separate file-system for /boot/ ?
[23:25] <honeybuntu> Bet it does, TJ
[23:25] <runvnc> yes actually df lists boot on its own line
[23:25] <runvnc> it says /boot 58M
[23:25] <runvnc> avail
[23:25] <runvnc> on my / I have 432M available
[23:25] <ItalianStallion> honeybuntu im reinstalling it now and removed all the partitions
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: you'd want more space than that on both drives
[23:25] <runvnc> just very stupid way they partitioned this put most of it on /home
[23:25] <ItalianStallion> new partition in megabyte size : 320072
[23:25] <honeybuntu> Excellent, ItalianStallion.
[23:26] <ItalianStallion> use as : ext4 journaling file system
[23:26] <ItalianStallion> mount point :
[23:26] <ItalianStallion> should i leave mount point blank
[23:26] <TJ-> runvnc: "update-grub" creates menu entries only if it finds an initrd.img for the kernel version... and it does that partially by looking at the kernel version named directories in "/var/lib/initramfs-tools/" ... are the newer kernel versions represented in that directory?
[23:26] <SchrodingersScat> lix: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/5.0/user_manual/pim/calendar.html#synchronising-calendars-with-caldav
[23:26] <honeybuntu> No.
[23:26] <runvnc> 3.0.0-32-server is in that ramfs-tools folder
[23:27] <ItalianStallion> leave it blank then, honeybuntu?
[23:27] <Guest66729> where does the adobe flashplugin save it's cache?
[23:27] <runvnc> what is the file that has the menu items in grub
[23:27] <lix> SchrodingersCat: thnaks yes tried that and am actually using DAVicat. but I am talking about aworing PIM client app (cal & addrbook) for ubuntu
[23:27] <TJ-> runvnc: and there's a corresponding /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-32-server ?
[23:27] <TJ-> runvnc: "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[23:27] <honeybuntu> You want to mount the drive dev/sda   "/"
[23:27] <runvnc> tj no the 3.0 is not in /boot
[23:28] <runvnc> will it fit in that amount I have left
[23:28] <lix> SchrodingsersCat: and lightning is rubbish
[23:28] <Guest66729> it should be in /tmp, but there is nothing mplayer could play
[23:28] <honeybuntu> no quotes  when you  type it in  /
[23:28] <TJ-> runvnc: Is "/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0.0-32-server" there?
[23:28] <runvnc> there is no 3.0 stuff in /boot
[23:28] <ItalianStallion> so select /dev/sda and not free space
[23:28] <ItalianStallion> ?
[23:28] <runvnc> but apt-get says that the linux-image-3.0 is installed
[23:28] <TJ-> runvnc: the initrd.img files are around 24MB... kernels around 5MB
[23:29] <TJ-> runvnc: "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image-3.0*'
[23:29] <ItalianStallion> honeybuntu?
[23:29] <runvnc> tj lists two packages
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: if you have linux-image-3.0 in your apt-archive you could install it from there
[23:29] <honeybuntu> Yes?
[23:30] <ItalianStallion> so select /dev/sda and not free space?
[23:30] <runvnc> linux-image-3.0 and linux-image-3.0.0-32-server
[23:30] <TJ-> runvnc: are they listed as installed (lines begin "ii"
[23:30] <runvnc> linux-image-3.0 is un
[23:30] <runvnc> other is ii
[23:30] <runvnc> so I just need to run sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.0?
[23:30] <TJ-> runvnc: OK, I think I know what might have happened... wait a moment please
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: he would have run out of space during the upgrade
[23:31] <ItalianStallion> honeybuntu, so select /dev/sda and not free space?
[23:31] <honeybuntu> Create the Ext4 journalizing partition (say about 240000)
[23:31] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: really? doesn't the installer check for space?
[23:32] <TJ-> runvnc: It is possible that the /boot/ file-system was unmounted at some point and the installer has installed into the rootfs at /boot/ ... but when the /boot/ file-system gets mounted to /boot it obscures the rootfs... we can check that quite easily
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: it seems to commonly happen.
[23:32] <honeybuntu> and at least 6 - 8 GB for the Swap space (Swap partition) partition in the linux swap format.
[23:32] <runvnc> shit I did run umount -a at some point
[23:32] <TJ-> runvnc: do you know which device is the rootfs, e.g. /dev/sda2 ?
[23:32] <TJ-> runvnc: tell me what the device for rootfs is?
[23:33] <runvnc> becuase I was trying to get du output but ignore my mounted drive
[23:33] <vince> anyone know how to turn off sound in the game briquolo? i looked everywhere but cannot find a command
[23:33] <runvnc> Tj just a second
[23:33] <honeybuntu> You mount the filesystem  at dev/sda   at /
[23:33] <profligacy> TJ-: What's rootfs?
[23:34] <TJ-> profligacy: root file-system.... the file-system anchored at /
[23:34] <runvnc> tj what command do I look for to know that
[23:34] <runvnc> df says filesystem /dev/md1 is /
[23:34] <runvnc> filesystem /de/md0 is /boot
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: mount
[23:34] <greg__> hi, i needed some help with installing ubuntu on a windows 8 machine. but the secure boot is greyed out :/
[23:34] <TJ-> runvnc "sudo mkdir /tmp/rootfs && mount /dev/md1 /tmp/rootfs && ls -latr /mnt/rootfs/boot/"
[23:35] <TJ-> runvnc: If what I suspect is correct you'll see your missing kernel files
[23:35] <runvnc> mount says /dev/md1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[23:35] <TJ-> runvnc: you'll need "sudo" in front of all those commands... I typoed!
[23:35] <runvnc> you sure you think I should run that command?
[23:36] <TJ-> runvnc "sudo mkdir /tmp/rootfs && sudo mount /dev/md1 /tmp/rootfs && ls -latr /mnt/rootfs/boot/"
[23:36] <TJ-> runvnc: then you can unmount using "sudo umount /tmp/rootfs"
[23:36] <runvnc> ok if I make a mistake I have no way of accessing the server
[23:37] <TJ-> runvnc: If your missing files are there, before you "unmount" you can do "sudo mv /mnt/rootfs/boot/* /boot/"
[23:37] <runvnc> have to get my client to go into the server room on monday if something gets messed up
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: you can always reboot. its not permanent changes
[23:37] <honeybuntu> ItalianStallion. I will be send you a ubuntu web address to guide you, just a sec.
[23:38] <TJ-> runvnc: these commands just do another mount of the rootfs in a place where the /boot/ file-system won't obscure the /boot directory
[23:38] <runvnc> tj did you mean ls /tmp/rootfs
[23:38] <TJ-> runvnc: no "ls -latr /mnt/rootfs/boot/"
[23:39] <greg__> hello, could someone please help me as well :). i tried the wubi one. it provides me the boot menu but i get an error when i try booting into ubuntu
[23:39] <runvnc> but you mounted it to /tmp/rootfs not /mnt/rootfs
[23:39] <runvnc> and so your command says no such file or directory
[23:39] <TJ-> runvnc: did I typo again? damn!
[23:39] <TJ-> runvnc: I do apologise... its been a long day!
[23:40] <TJ-> runvnc: lets try again!
[23:40] <runvnc> tj
[23:40] <TJ-> runvnc "sudo mkdir /tmp/rootfs && sudo mount /dev/md1 /tmp/rootfs && ls -latr /tmp/rootfs/boot/"
[23:40] <runvnc> the initrd and vmcoreinfo and config 3 and vmlinux 3 are in fact available in /tmp/rootfs now
[23:40] <honeybuntu> Unless the problem is due to bad installation media, or is a known graphics problem. You gave us some information about your computer, but you did not tell us the make and model of your graphics card.
[23:40] <runvnc> so the problem was I unmounted /boot before running do-release-upgrade?
[23:40] <greg__> i've now created a bootable dvd but when i use the complicated( windows + i; click on power and press shift) and then click on troubleshoot i get the to the BIOS. but the secure boot option is greyed out :/
[23:40] <TJ-> runvnc: You say they are at "/tmp/rootfs/" ?
[23:41] <TJ-> runvnc: or "/tmp/rootfs/boot/"
[23:41] <runvnc> oh sorry I meant /tmp/rootfs/boot
[23:41] <TJ-> runvnc: YAY! thought so :) ... OK "sudo mv /tmp/rootfs/boot/* /boot/"   then you can umount it
[23:41] <runvnc> I think you figured it out
[23:41] <honeybuntu> Do you have an nVidia graphics card in that machine ItalianStallion?
[23:42] <runvnc> I did a umount -a because my du command was taking too long with the network drive
[23:42] <runvnc> which umounted boot
[23:42] <TJ-> runvnc: I've done this to myself more than once; I get a feel for it now :)
[23:42] <runvnc> before I did the upgrade
[23:42] <anonymous> are you gay
[23:42] <TJ-> anonymous: I'm very happy :)
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: once you copy them over. don't for get to update-grub && grub-install
[23:42] <anonymous> nice
[23:42] <anonymous> i am gay
[23:43] <anonymous> and I love gays
[23:43] <lickalott> Hey guys.  have you ever heard of an issue with Gnome not allowing log in after a screen lock?
[23:43] <runvnc> tj are there files in /tmp/rootfs/boot/grub that I need?
[23:43] <TJ-> lickalott: and it isn't CAPS LoCk stuck?
[23:43] <runvnc> mv: inter-device move failed: `/tmp/rootfs/boot/grub' to `/boot/grub'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[23:43] <lickalott> negative sir
[23:43] <lickalott> i have to reboot everytime
[23:44] <TJ-> runvnc: They'll get moved with that "mv" command I gave you... then after you "umount /tmp/rootfs" you do "update-initramfs -uvk all" and then "update-grub" as hitsujiTMO said
[23:44] <greg__> hi guys , please if you could point me to a link where i could install ubuntu on a windows 8 machine(with the UEFI mode on and secure boot greyed out). please if someone could advise
[23:44] <runvnc> it said unable to remove target: is a directory
[23:44] <TJ-> lickalott: I've only heard of that when there are accented characters in the password
[23:45] <lickalott> this is irritating.  If I figure it out I'll let you guys know in case someone else runs into it.
[23:45] <runvnc> thanks tj I copied those files
[23:45] <anonymous> I am very gay
[23:45] <runvnc> running those commands
[23:45] <anonymous> and you
[23:46] <Guest25991> Hi, does anyone know how to improve the open jdk performance on Ubuntu? It seems when running certain things (e.g. unit tests) the task never gets given enough prioritisation.
[23:46] <honeybuntu> I'm over it. If I have to stick to the topic of this channel so do the anonymous.
[23:46] <TJ-> runvnc: After you've done all that, you should find the kernel entries correctly in "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[23:46] <anonymous> IT`S REINING MEN, ALELUIA
[23:46] <runvnc> do I need to run grub-install
[23:47] <runvnc> because I dont know what parameters for that
[23:47] <runvnc> update-grub worked though
[23:47] <anonymous> GAY
[23:47] <anonymous> GAY
[23:47] <FloodBot1> anonymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <vince> anyone play briquolo?
[23:48] <honeybuntu> And I was simply expounding on computer advancements. Sheesh. That joker was really off base.
[23:48] <runvnc> ok the 3.0 stuff is in grub.cfg
[23:48] <TJ-> runvnc: "grub-install /dev/<device node of block device containing sector 0 of the boot drive>" :D
[23:49] <runvnc> so if df output says /dev/md0 on /boot type ex2 (rw) then I should use /dev/md0 right
[23:49] <TJ-> runvnc: no!
[23:49] <ExoFlame> Hello Does anyone know how to limit the size of a directoy do that it can't exead say 100Mb (runing ubunt 12.04)
[23:50] <verdes> when starting ubuntu 13.10, I get the following error: 17.0620661] via-ircc  0000:00.11:0 device not available (can't reserve [iox0800-0087f])
[23:50] <TJ-> runvnc: if /dev/md0 is on /boot/ then it contains a file-system ... for "grub-install" you need to give it the device that contains the partition table (MBR) ... it is probably "/dev/sda" or similar unless you have it configured to boot from a RAID1 pair
[23:50] <runvnc> it is raid I think
[23:50] <TJ-> runvnc: "cat /boot/grub/device.map" look for hd0
[23:51] <runvnc> thats why I see things that say /dev/mdN I think
[23:51] <honeybuntu> Here's your website for review, ItalianStallion --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/406597/does-ubuntu-installer-automatically-install-in
[23:51] <runvnc> tj I do not have a /boot/grub/device.map
[23:52] <runvnc> I have a bunch of .mod files
[23:53] <TJ-> runvnc: OK ... to help you figure it out, the md devices, if they are mounted to a directory, must be file-systems not raw drives. You're looking for a block device that contains a partition table. Try "cat /proc/partitions" that might help identify it
[23:54] <runvnc> ok there are entries for sda, sda1-5, sdb, sdb1-5 and md0-3
[23:54] <Crazydog> What am I doing wrong? Am I missing something or are the files i'm trying to use in a different place?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777167/
[23:55] <runvnc> so I want to sudo grub-install /dev/sda maybe?
[23:55] <TJ-> runvnc: I'd bet it's sda ... try "fdisk -l /dev/sda" and then "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | less" and you ought to see something like the pastebin I am about to give you as an example...
[23:56] <runvnc> fdisk output is mostly 'linux raid autodetect'
[23:56] <TJ-> runvnc: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777177/
[23:56] <runvnc> its supposed to be two 32gb intel extreme 25 in mirror
[23:56] <runvnc> is what I asked them. never knew how to confirm if they did it right
[23:56] <TJ-> runvnc: If you see those keywords "GRUB" and so on you've got the MBR
[23:57] <runvnc> tj so the dd command is going to read only, not write?
[23:57] <runvnc> I thought dd could write raw blocks
[23:57] <TJ-> runvnc: "if" means "input file" ... default output goes to stdout
[23:57] <runvnc> ok so if I accidentally typed of
[23:58] <runvnc> then my computer might now boot right
[23:58] <TJ-> runvnc: You'd need "of" which is "output file" to direct it anywhere else than stdout
[23:58] <runvnc> ok thanks tj yes it does say GRUB Geom Hard Disk Read Error
[23:59] <runvnc> similar to the pastebin
[23:59] <TJ-> runvnc: OK, so "grub-install /dev/sda"  should ensure the boot-loader is sorted out
[23:59] <TJ-> runvnc: The last 66 bytes are the partition table and checksum; they'll always look different
[23:59] <runvnc> Installation finished. No error reported!
[23:59] <TJ-> runvnc: I think you're getting it under control :)
[23:59] <runvnc> awesome so how do I make sure it is using the 3.0 as default on the menu