[00:00] <valorie> oh that's very nice
[00:02] <soee_> well we all want to use the best distro :)
[00:02] <valorie> Riddell: do you mind taking a look at http://pastebin.kde.org/po3du7nrf
[00:03] <valorie> my proposed stuff for ubuntu user days
[00:03] <valorie> I don't want to present anything inaccurately
[00:03] <valorie> don't worry, it's short
[01:14] <Riddell> valorie: looks good
[01:14] <Riddell> KDE is the international community which has created the KDE desktop <-- dunno if that should be Plasma Desktop
[01:16] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell
[01:19] <Riddell> sleep time :)
[01:20] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:45] <manchicken> Anybody know how to do the whole forking a git repo in the KDE repos? I'm wanting to fork libqapt so I can merge my changes in.
[02:25] <valorie> manchicken: you should file a ticket about your 'retired' status or whatever it is
[02:25] <manchicken> valorie: I already got my developers group back.
[02:25] <valorie> cool
[02:25] <valorie> https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo
[02:26] <manchicken> I'm more talking about remotes.
[02:26] <manchicken> I thought there'd be a server I could push to for KDE's git stuff.
[02:27] <valorie> yes, you can push once you clone the repo and start making changes in your fork
[02:27] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[02:27] <valorie> then you put your diff on reviewboard, and if it's accepted, push to the server
[02:27] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[02:27] <valorie> manchicken: also: #git
[02:28] <manchicken> The question is which remote do I use?
[02:28] <manchicken> I'm familiar with git, I just don't know where to push my changes to.
[02:28] <valorie> depends on the project
[02:28] <valorie> some have a working branch
[02:29] <valorie> some push to master
[02:29] <valorie> you want to check with the team such as it is
[02:30] <manchicken> Gotcha.
[02:30] <manchicken> I guess that's going to be tricky with JonT being at large.
[02:30] <ahoneybun> getting more and more translated
[02:30] <manchicken> I wonder if apol has super powers on that project.
[02:31] <manchicken> https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=people/view&uid=mstemle <-- w00t
[02:33] <valorie> manchicken: what are your medals for?
[02:33] <manchicken> My first half marathon.
[02:33] <valorie> and \o/ on getting that set up again!
[02:33] <manchicken> And the 5k the night before.
[02:33] <valorie> yowza
[02:34] <manchicken> I'm going to create three local branches for these three changes and then submit them again.
[02:35] <valorie> why three?
[02:35] <valorie> so they can be pushed separately?
[02:35] <manchicken> JonT wanted one for the main changes, one for the deprecation warning from libapt-pkg, and one for the krazy2 warnings.
[02:35] <manchicken> And then he kinda disappeared back into the ether :)
[02:36] <valorie> k
[02:37] <valorie> I'm far from a git expert, so if I were you, I'd check with #git before going to all that extra trouble
[02:37] <valorie> seems like most would make a "manchicken" branch, commit to that, and with each commit, submit the diff to reviewboard
[02:37] <manchicken> We use git at work, so I'm comfortable with that.
[02:37] <valorie> ok
[02:38] <valorie> they you know more than me
[02:38] <manchicken> Unfortunately I don't know where to push those branches, so they'll all be local.
[02:38] <manchicken> I guess I could just push them up to my github as well, too.
[02:39] <valorie> somehow they gotta get to the KDE git eventually
[02:40] <valorie> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Git/Recipes
[02:40] <manchicken> Yeah, but I'm thinking that JonT may have left this in a state where review board is the only way things get in.
[02:40] <valorie> right, but after someone says "Ship it" it still has to get from your machine to kde git
[02:41] <valorie> you have the *right* to just push now
[02:41] <valorie> but reviewboard is the polite, acceptable way to check things out first
[02:42] <ahoneybun> so valorie 4.13 might make it into 14.04?
[02:42] <valorie> "might"
[02:42] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:43] <valorie> puts us doc people in a funny place
[02:43] <valorie> but you know, everything can be fixed later, if we're inaccurate anywhere
[02:43] <ahoneybun> I don't think we put version numbers anywhere
[02:47] <ahoneybun> if that's the case
[02:49] <manchicken> valorie: They could just apply the patch.
[02:50] <valorie> true, and they sometimes do that
[02:51] <valorie> sort of depends on the team and how they work
[02:51] <valorie> I know in Amarok that 'drive byes' will have the patch applied
[02:51] <valorie> whereas GSoC students will push their branches to master
[02:51] <valorie> after the go-ahead
[02:53] <ahoneybun> I want to know how that one student is doing with feature tour page
[02:54] <valorie> probably what has been done at this point is about it
[02:55] <valorie> I'm going to assume that school has commenced, since we haven't heard anything from him lately
[02:56] <ahoneybun> yea
[03:00] <ahoneybun> valorie: about those Kubuntu Stickers
[03:00] <valorie> they haven't arrived yet
[03:00] <valorie> but when they do, do you want some?
[03:00] <ahoneybun> yes for sure
[03:01] <valorie> cool
[03:01] <ahoneybun> thanks
[03:06] <mamarley> Kubuntu stickers?  Like ones to replace the Microsoft® Windows® stickers that come on PCs?
[03:07] <valorie> i don't think so
[03:07] <valorie> I've had those tiny ubuntu stickers before that did that though
[03:07] <valorie> they are awesome
[03:08]  * mamarley has been looking for a sticker to cover up the ugly Microsoft® Windows® 8 logo button on his keyboard for quite some time now.
[03:09] <mamarley> I used to have an Ubuntu one on my old laptop, but it fell off.
[03:10] <ahoneybun> mamarley: the ubuntu store has one
[03:12] <ahoneybun> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[03:13] <valorie> I think those are too big to fit one key
[03:13] <ahoneybun> I think there is one sticker that does
[03:13] <ahoneybun> *think*
[03:14] <valorie> mine were tiny; just the right size for the superkey
[03:15] <mamarley> Someone gave me a set of Redhat stickers the other day, but I didn't figure that would be appropriate ;p
[03:18] <valorie> I have a fedora sticker on this laptop
[03:19] <valorie> along with an assortment of others
[03:19] <valorie> we're all compadres in freedom
[03:48] <manchicken> Okay, I'm going to head to bed, I have a race in the morning. Later all.
[03:49] <valorie> sweet dreams
[04:32] <ahoneybun> I think translations are going well, you valorie?
[04:32] <valorie> I haven't looked today
[04:32] <ahoneybun> 6 langs other then english on the home page
[04:34] <valorie> awesome
[04:35] <valorie> very good european coverage
[04:35] <valorie> what I *really* want though, is mandarin
[04:37] <ahoneybun> oh
[04:38] <valorie> that would spread our disto to so many people
[04:38] <valorie> I mean, we need localization as well as docs
[04:38] <valorie> but you know what I mean
[04:38] <valorie> there is ubuntu-kylin or whatever
[04:39] <valorie> but it isn't very popular in my torrents
[04:39] <valorie> which of course are not accurate in any way
[04:40] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:41] <ahoneybun> I wanted to see how much my gf could put into korean
[04:42] <valorie> Korean would be awesome as well
[04:42] <ahoneybun> she does very well I think for just one year in
[04:43] <ahoneybun> she has done 3 years I believe worth of work in that timeframe
[09:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:22]  * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=130
[12:06] <tester56> is kcm_locale patched in kubuntu?
[12:06] <tester56> i discovered a bug which could be due to a patch
[12:08] <tester56> if yes, where to report the crash?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:20] <Riddell> tester56: yes it is
[12:21] <Riddell> tester56: report on kde-workspace I think and best e-mail kubuntu-devel too so me or apachelogger know to look
[12:21] <tester56> Riddell: thanks, where to report a crash?
[12:22] <tester56> you mean the kubuntu devel mailing list?
[12:22] <Riddell> tester56: yes
[12:47] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1270571] Systemsettings crash when interrupting kcm-language at loading @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270571 (by KDEUSER56)
[12:49] <tester56> Riddell: as pointed out by kubotu, i have reported the crash
[12:49] <tester56> also sent the mail, as requested
[12:50] <Riddell> lovely thanks
[12:52] <BluesKaj> gawd  the display configuration is a mess on kde, toggling between hdmi and lvds1 is like musical chairs , it should be more straight forward
[12:53] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chat
[12:58] <tester56> Riddell: Actually I cannot send to the kubuntu mailing list, as I have to be approved first 
[13:07] <Riddell> tester56: either subscribe or give me your e-mail and I'll whitelist you
[13:44] <jarkko> BluesKaj: what is lvds
[13:45] <lordievader> jarkko: It is a connector type usually used to connect laptop screens to their motherboard.
[14:09] <mamarley> Low Voltage Differential Signaling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-voltage_differential_signaling
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ok , too much info already :)
[14:12] <lordievader> Perhaps more than just a connector ;)
[14:18] <BluesKaj> aka line level voltage signals
[14:34] <sem> Peace-: 
[14:39] <jarkko_> not much talk here today+
[14:40] <Peace-> Riddell: have you an idea about these black edges ? http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/konversation.jpeg
[14:40] <Peace-> when i use ksnapshot i get always them 
[14:40] <Peace-> it's a bit weird 
[14:40] <jarkko_> photoshopped ;)
[14:41] <Peace-> jarkko_: ^?
[14:41] <Peace-> i just used ksnapshot 
[14:41] <Peace-> and it does it all the time 
[14:41] <Peace-> before it worked great
[14:41] <Peace-> :S
[14:43] <mamarley> Peace-: It is because ksnapshot automatically includes the semi-transparent shadow around the image, but JPEG doesn't support alpha transparency.  You should use PNG instead. :)
[15:19] <Peace-> mamarley: yes
[15:19] <Peace-> omg
[15:19] <Peace-> it's jpeg
[15:19] <Peace-> dmaned jpeg
[19:46] <manchicken> w00t! I have a branch for my libqapt changes, and it's pushed, and now it can be reviewed in a sane and normal manner!
[22:48] <manchicken> apachelogger: I updated the Trello ticket for the kubuntu-debug-installer.
[22:50] <manchicken> I'm going to have to re-factor a few things with the changes I have in libqapt now.
[22:55] <mikhas> how does trello work for you guys?
[23:00] <ahoneybun> mikhas: great for us docs people
[23:06] <mikhas> can someone like me who is just an observer get access to your trello instance?
[23:06] <mikhas> always wondered how it works out in real life
[23:06] <mikhas> whether it works at all ;-)
[23:19] <Riddell> mikhas: what happens if you go to trello.com/kubuntu ?
[23:41]  * Riddell away most of tomorrow
[23:41] <Riddell> mikhas: send an invite
[23:49] <mikhas> oh wow, cool
[23:49] <mikhas> thanks!
[23:49] <mikhas> why, I see trello's dashboard of course
[23:50] <mikhas> is everything public?
[23:51] <mikhas> so as a very active user, is mr. apachelogger happy with trello? ;-)
[23:51] <mikhas> back in the good Nokia days, we had tons of management tools, all requiring more help being themselves managed by us than helping us managing our tasks ;-)
[23:52] <mikhas> but it was a valuable experience in futile process management
[23:57] <valorie> there is a open source variant of trello that is coming along
[23:58] <valorie> we might look at that when it's a bit more mature
[23:59] <mikhas> does that really matter to you?
[23:59] <mikhas> do you plan on adding features to it for instance?