[10:57] <Ali-dh> hello
[11:00] <Ali-dh> Hello?
[11:08] <Ali-dh> Hello can someone help me?
[11:11] <darkxst> !ask
[11:29] <ali-dh_> Hello I want to join the Ubuntu Gnome community, I read all the webpages but still am really confused on how to do that, can someone help me?
[11:33] <ali-dh_> Ok so I guess no one can help me
[11:34] <ali-dh_> Yep I'll just go, don't mind me, continue "sleeping" :)
[11:55] <ricotz> darkxst, :\
[11:56] <ricotz> i hope this turns out well
[11:57] <ricotz> avoid binary copies to different releases, e.g. gnome-desktop3
[12:14] <darkxst> yeh, ended up in a bit of a tangle...
[12:22] <ricotz> darkxst, do you want to transition everything?
[12:25] <ricotz> darkxst, gtksourceview3, gdk-pixbuf
[12:26] <ricotz> clutter-1.0
[12:26] <ricotz> those still needs to be copied
[12:29] <darkxst> yes, although I was planning to just start with gnome-desktop but goa got caught up in it
[12:30] <ricotz> darkxst, do it in one pass to avoid rebuilds
[12:30] <ricotz> meaning if you want *everything* then just copy it
[12:31] <ricotz> darkxst, btw, i have taken a look at mutter 3.11.x and updated the packaging gnome-shell 3.11.x is in a bad shape too though
[12:32] <ricotz> darkxst, for mutter 3.10.x please actually drop the patch files if they are obsolete
[12:33] <darkxst> saucy doesnt have the cogl transition
[12:34] <ricotz> i know, i meant the official mutter trusty package
[12:34] <ricotz> bings me to the question what do you think about doing this cogl/clutter transition for saucy too?
[12:38] <ricotz> bbl, don't worry, i won't interfere with your copying/rebuilding
[12:38] <ricotz> just keep the versioning "stable"
[12:49] <darkxst> its probably worth doing the cogl/clutter transition, although I was really just wanting to consolidate things
[12:50] <darkxst> btw what is wrong with gnome-shell 3.11.x?
[12:54] <darkxst> (apart from needing a rebase against ubuntu package?)
[12:54] <ricotz> darkxst, a lot of outdated dependencies
[12:55] <ricotz> better dont worry about that now
[12:59] <ricotz> darkxst, :\
[13:00] <ricotz> what are you doing?
[13:00] <ricotz> i disabled the publishing of gnome3-next now
[13:01] <darkxst> gah, they should have gone to saucy
[13:01] <ricotz> and do binary copies!
[13:01] <ricotz> no rebuilds
[13:02] <darkxst> they should have been that also
[13:02] <ricotz> delete them all and wait a bit
[13:03] <ricotz> even cancel the builds too
[13:06] <ricotz> double even triple check the settings when copying packages
[13:07] <ricotz> what are the things you wanted to do?
[13:07] <ricotz> darkxst, ^
[13:08] <ricotz> consolidate? -- it might be impossible to copy the packages to saucy now
[13:08] <darkxst> yes
[13:08] <ricotz> so using the main gnome3 is an option now
[13:09] <ricotz> darkxst, with what changes?
[13:09] <ricotz> darkxst, i noticed the display-manager addition
[13:09] <darkxst> right, we don't break unity anymore with display0config
[13:11] <ricotz> so what you want to do for saucy is: declaring the staging ppa stable and adding displayconfig?
[13:12] <ricotz> btw, i am not so happy with seeing  "webkitgtk - 2.3.2-1ubuntu6~saucy1" since it is 3.12 stuff
[13:13] <ricotz> darkxst, so what i would suggest is to copy the saucy pocket of staging to gnome3-team/gnome3, then you can push the displayconfig changes there?
[13:14] <ricotz> darkxst, please stop doing anything now, and figure it out first
[13:16] <darkxst> copies into next won't work now? but yes I think putting it into gnome3 is also fine
[13:17] <ricotz> darkxst, afaik launchpad won't accept the packages anymore since they have the same version
[13:17] <ricotz> and there are rebuilds already which are different from the staging builds
[13:17] <ricotz> i wasnt fast enough in disabling the publishing to prevent it for all
[13:18] <ricotz> darkxst, what is up with this webkit package was this intended?
[13:19] <darkxst> that fixes the software center bug
[13:19] <ricotz> ok
[13:19] <ricotz> ok, i am going to copy the saucy pocket of staging
[13:20] <darkxst> ok
[13:22] <ricotz> did you test "displayconfig - 3.10.2-0ubuntu1~trusty1" on saucy?
[13:26] <darkxst> yes
[13:28] <ricotz> (please dont clear the failures)
[13:32] <ricotz> darkxst, did you accidently pushed "gdm - 3.10.0.1-0ubuntu1~saucy3 " to gnome3 already in the past?
[13:34] <darkxst> possibly
[13:37] <ricotz> yeah
[13:39] <ricotz> darkxst, i will disable the gnome3-next ppa for a while to avoid conflicts when people use it with gnome3 and/or gnome3-staging
[13:40] <ricotz> hmm, i guess purging the saucy pocket would suffice too
[13:43] <darkxst> probably best to leave it off for now
[13:43] <ricotz> darkxst, i disabled it now
[13:43] <darkxst> ok
[13:43] <ricotz> jfyi there is a difference between disabling the ppa and disabling the publishing
[14:00] <ricotz> darkxst, any new packages besides "gnome-settings-daemon - 3.10.2-0ubuntu1~saucy4" ?
[14:01] <ricotz> please update the date in the changelog if you changed the package
[14:01] <ricotz> e.g. a simple "dch -r"
[14:13] <ricotz> darkxst, ?
[14:14] <ricotz> will push a fixed g-s-d 3.10.2
[17:16] <ronj> Hi!
[17:18] <Al1_andre> hi
[17:19] <ronj> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade is about to do a massive upgrade, removing important packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781149/
[17:21] <ronj> is that okay?
[17:21] <ricotz> ronj, only "libgdm libgoa-1.0-0" getting removed which is perfectly fine
[17:22] <ricotz> they are getting replaced by newer renamed ones
[17:22] <ricotz> ronj, i assume you are only using ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 on saucy?
[17:22] <ronj> ricotz, excellent; that's what I figured out but I wanted to make sure of it because it's quite massive and I got bitten by such upgrades in the past :P
[17:23] <ronj> ricotz, I am using the [gnome3, gnome3-next] PPAs on saucy
[17:23] <ricotz> ok
[17:24] <ronj> thanks for the fast reply!
[17:24] <ricotz> np, hoping it works out without hick-ups for you
[17:29] <Al1_andre> Hi, anyone knows how to hide the users join/quit on XChat ?
[19:20] <ronj> Just to confirm, today's mass update to 3.10 went well, having client-side decorations is awesome and I didn't expect it before 14.04! Tested [Files, Weather, Tweak tool, Settings, Web] and all work well! Thanks for the great work :)))