[00:40] <g0tcha> heh i just tested a backup method, supposed to backup a system with 30gb drive, the backup ended up to be 60+ gb!
[00:40] <g0tcha> something must have went wrong
[00:41] <ddsss> mmm. so I've converted mbr to gpt on /dev/sda  using gdisk, rebooted and now my home server box doesn't start.  :) Can I get some help guys?
[00:43] <ddsss> Here's the fdisk, df-h, and fstab output prior to conversion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776851/
[00:44] <TJ-> ddsss: Did you create a GRUB BIOS-boot partition on the GPT?
[00:44] <ddsss> Ubuntu was installed on /dev/sdd (60 GB ssd drive)
[00:45] <ddsss> TJ-, I did sudo gdisk /dev/sda
[00:45] <ddsss> TJ-, then pressed w and it was supposed to save converted gpt table.
[00:45] <ddsss> TJ-, and gdisk reported that conversion was successfull.
[00:46] <ddsss> TJ-, so I ahve no clue why would it just not boot after ....
[00:47] <TJ-> ddsss: As I said ... GRUB will need a BIOS boot partition of around 1MB and you'll need to redo "grub-install" ... not sure if you need additional grub packages on top of grub-pc, though
[00:47] <ddsss> TJ-, but OS was installed on totally differnt drive.
[00:48] <ddsss> TJ-, I've just converted one of the 4 data driver in my nas server.
[00:48] <ddsss> TJ-, server drive wasn't touched at all.
[00:48] <ddsss> TJ-, I mean - OS drive wasn't touched at all....
[00:48] <TJ-> ddsss: really? you said MBR so I assumed you meant a boot record, not just partition table typ
[00:49] <ddsss> TJ-, yeah. here see the drives in my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776851/
[00:49] <TJ-> ddfs: define "doesn't start" then
[00:50] <ddsss> TJ-, it just shows: _
[00:50] <g0tcha> "The dump format is only recommended if you need to backup files that have ACLs or other attributes that tar would miss. "
[00:50] <g0tcha> what does ACL stand for here?
[00:50] <ddsss> TJ-, not a command prompt though. Just underscore charachter -> and it just sits there....
[00:52] <ddsss> TJ-, You know wjhat - looking at my fdisk output. There is 4 drives: sda, sdb,sdc,sdd. OS drive was sdd. But for some reason sda drive that I later converted to GPT was also makred "boot"...
[00:52] <ddsss> TJ-, so perhaps during conversion it made it "gpt boot" or something?
[00:53] <TJ-> ddsss: that sounds about right... if it is GPT, and your motherboard is UEFI, it'll boot by default (or try) to a GPT disk... if it can't find an EFI system partition it'll stop
[00:54] <TJ-> ddsss: you may need to edit the UEFI boot menu order to force CSM boot of the correct drive
[00:54] <ddsss> ddsss, so I guess ill mount it in ubuntu-resue cd or something and uncheck the boot label.
[00:55] <TJ-> ddsss: I doubt that is needed... GPT doesn't have the concept of an 'active' partition, unlike MBR
[00:56] <ddsss> TJ-, how would I edit uefi boot menu>
[00:56] <ddsss> TJ-, ?
[00:56] <TJ-> ddsss: reboot, enter the UEFI setup (usually press F2 or similar), then change the boot menu order and save
[00:57] <ddsss> TJ-, k. let me try that.
[01:34] <ddsss> TJ-, hmm. so. this is regular BIOS, not UEFI. But I think the problem is that /dev/sda did in fact contain MBR record, while OS was phisically installed onto /dev/sdd....
[01:34] <ddsss> TJ-, so when I converted MBR->GPT this made it unbootable...
[01:35] <ddsss> TJ-, im not sure how that happened initially as I went with default Ubuntu server setup options...
[01:36] <ddsss> TJ-, but there is probably no way to move old mbr onto /dev/sdd?
[01:40] <TJ-> ddsss: if /dev/sdd is MBR you can just do "grub-install /dev/sdd" then "update-grub" ... and ensure the BIOS boot order chooses sdd first
[01:41] <ddsss> TJ-, yeah - but it seems like that drive never had mbr, it was on /dev/sda for some reason.
[01:42] <ddsss> TJ-, but that's ok. i'll just boot from puppy linux or something , backup whatever configs I need and reinstall OS - that's why it was on a separate drive anyways....:)
[01:45] <TJ-> ddsss: MBR means 2 things, 1) a BIOS partition table in sector 0 with 4 elements, and 2) boot-loader boot-strap code at the beginning of sector 0
[01:45] <TJ-> "grub-install /dev/sdd" will install the boot-sector code into sector 0. That is what the BIOS looks for and loads and passes execution to.
[01:45] <TJ-> ddsss: that code know how to find the rest of GRUB
[01:46] <TJ-> ddsss: so which would you rather do... reinstall several GBs of files, or have "grub-install" write ~ 440 bytes to sector 0 of the correct disk?
[01:50] <ddsss> TJ-, I dunno:) it was pretty basic ubuntu server install + apache server. not much more. (just a home server)
[01:51] <ddsss> TJ-, how would one do grub-install? do I run it from recovery cd?
[01:51] <TJ-> ddsss: Yes
[01:52] <ddsss> TJ-, Ill give it a try then. Thanks  TJ- !
[01:52] <TJ-> do you have the bootable server install media? I believe there is/was a recovery option on that.
[01:52] <TJ-> ddsss: if not, there is a grub rescue ISO image you can use on USB or CD/DVD, or a live ISO desktop image
[02:55] <a1fa> hello.. anyone running btrfs?
[08:29] <brightbeat> logrotate on Ubuntu 12.04 server is acting very weird. it archived mail.log to mail.info.0 !! and it does some other weird thing. Does anyone have a problem like that?
[12:52] <|newbie|> lista
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[17:37] <phillw> Hi good people,  as a for your information.. The partitioner in trusty server install does not function on a KVM... I don't have a actual bit of kit to double check the debian-installer against. The nearest report I saw was able to see was 'no disk space left), which on a newly created 100GB LVM is somewhat unlikely.
[17:40] <phillw> I double checked by popping 12.04.3 LTS back onto same VM... worked fine.
[18:40] <Guest17692> Hello, can you tell me where I can find a list of the patches that Ubuntu applies to the Linux Kernel ?
[18:45] <TJ-> Guest17692: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode
[20:55] <lifeless> hi; how can I see what packages are in the cloud-archive? It doesn't look like a regular ppa...
[21:13] <zul> lifeless: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/
[21:14] <lifeless> zul: oh hi :)
[21:14] <lifeless> zul: I have a weeeird openvswitch issue I'm trying to track down :(
[21:14] <zul> lifeless:  ah
[21:14] <zul> is this the one you g+ed about?
[21:14] <lifeless> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-January/003893.html
[21:14] <lifeless> zul: no that was me reading the changelog and going WTF
[21:15] <lifeless> that list post is it
[21:15] <zul> lifeless:  ah well i would bug jamespage about it tomorrow
[21:16] <lifeless> jamespage: ^ oh hai :)
[21:16] <lifeless> zul: cool, will keep poking at it myself; kindof need to get a fix in place :)
[21:22] <lifeless> huh
[21:22] <lifeless> tunnelling is in upstream kernel now
[21:22] <lifeless> so I might try just the ovs 2 userspace
[21:24] <embiopterid> If I use squid-deb-proxy and have both debian and ubuntu machines, will it still work, or will they try to install the wrong packages?
[21:25] <lifeless> it will still work
[21:28] <embiopterid> thx.
[21:35] <ddsss> so - if I have a drive that I intend to use purely as a data storage -> do I need to create partitions there at all?
[21:39] <embiopterid> ddsss: yes.  A drive always needs a partition table.  You only need one tho.
[21:40] <ddsss> embiopterid, hmm. im not sure.
[21:41] <ddsss> embiopterid, this queestion for example suggests that partition tables are optional: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5162/how-to-install-grub-to-a-whole-ext4-disk-without-partition-table
[21:57] <embiopterid> OK, ya you can but its not usually a good idea, and making a partition is not difficlult at all so I would just go ahead and do it.
[21:57] <embiopterid> but thats just me.
[22:52] <nickenchuggets> Does anyone know of any guides for setting up Virtual Mailboxes with Postfix on Ubuntu 13.04?
[22:54] <nickenchuggets> I found one, but it said... at the very end of the section... that the above needs to be updated for Ubuntu versions above 12.04.
[23:19] <dcosnet> nickenchuggets: i just wanted to point out that your irc name is funny
[23:34] <zanzacar> What are some fun things to do on your headless server? I am currently torrenting a bunch of linux distros for everyone.
[23:34] <zanzacar> I was just wondering what else really I could do with my server while its not really being used basically.
[23:34] <Pici> irc
[23:34] <Pici> irssi
[23:35] <zanzacar> I got weechat-curses I seem to like it alot
[23:35] <zanzacar> I have never really looked into irssi.
[23:45] <zanzacar> Pici: What do you like about irssi? vs weechat?
[23:45] <Pici> zanzacar: I'm used to it.  weechat is cool too.
[23:46] <zanzacar> Pici: O ok sounds good. I am use to weechat. I thought I had gone through and tried both at one time and decided on weechat over irssi.
[23:47] <zanzacar> I think I have tried to do things like lend out my cpu power for good causes but always ran into issues.