| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| ali1234 | hmm | 03:21 |
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| ali1234 | cgroups allows you to limit the physical memory used by a process or group of processes, after it's exceeded they swap | 03:22 |
| ali1234 | that is AMAZING | 03:22 |
| ali1234 | i have wanted that feature for YEARS | 03:22 |
| ali1234 | no gnome-thumbnailer, you do not need 100GB of memory | 03:23 |
| ali1234 | and they said cgroups is only useful for servers? | 03:23 |
| mapps | cgroups> | 04:37 |
| mapps | ? | 04:37 |
| ali1234 | http://en.gravatar.com/alistairbuxton HAHAHAHA | 05:49 |
| ali1234 | i figured out how to delete gravatar profiles | 05:49 |
| ali1234 | and they told me it was impossible... | 05:50 |
| ali1234 | lol, github has this fun feature | 06:11 |
| ali1234 | you can put in any email you want as your gravatar | 06:11 |
| foobarry | ugh bad night | 07:11 |
| foobarry | i'm so tired i actually put the spoonful of baby food in my mouth instead | 07:12 |
| MartijnVdS | morning foobarry | 07:18 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: that doesn't sound too horrible.. I mean, it's food, right? | 07:18 |
| foobarry | morning. | 07:19 |
| foobarry | its the only palatable baby food - banana "porridge" | 07:19 |
| foobarry | hmm adblock plus refusing to work in chrome Version 29.0.1547.76 | 07:19 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: I use "normal" adblock, not ABP | 07:19 |
| MartijnVdS | works fine in 32.0.1700.77 | 07:20 |
| MartijnVdS | why are you running such and old version? | 07:20 |
| foobarry | hmm it should update itsekf right? | 07:22 |
| foobarry | normal adblock works, i'll stick with that | 07:22 |
| * foobarry dist-upgrades | 07:25 | |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: Chrome adds a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to upgrade itself when you apt-get upgrade, yes | 07:28 |
| foobarry | those versino numbers creep up | 07:29 |
| foobarry | haven't updated for a few weeks | 07:29 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: 29 is from august last year | 08:03 |
| foobarry | weird | 08:19 |
| foobarry | argh /boot filled up | 08:19 |
| MartijnVdS | remove ye olde kernels | 08:20 |
| foobarry | wont let me cos its full ( | 08:21 |
| MartijnVdS | what? apt-get purge should allow that | 08:21 |
| MartijnVdS | or dpkg --purge one kernel (to free up some space) | 08:21 |
| foobarry | its / rather than /boot | 08:21 |
| MartijnVdS | how.. how did you do that? | 08:22 |
| MartijnVdS | don't you have a multi-gb disk? | 08:22 |
| foobarry | boot is in / | 08:22 |
| foobarry | can't purge cos apt-get didn't finish | 08:23 |
| foobarry | and i have to go out soon :( | 08:23 |
| foobarry | phew | 08:31 |
| foobarry | fortunately ubuntu is more resilient than centos | 08:31 |
| foobarry | haven';t rebooted yet thoug | 08:31 |
| shauno | my ugly method for that, is to rm anoldkernel && touch anoldkernel. that way it still exists when apt wants to remove it, but it's not eating disk | 08:39 |
| directhex | ali1234, AGI ALtix had it in hardware - "cpusets" | 09:00 |
| popey | ming | 10:03 |
| nigelb | hello popey | 10:06 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:21 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:37 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 10:38 |
| nigelb | Morning brobostigon, bigcalm | 10:40 |
| nigelb | Nice sunny day today | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | morning nigelb | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | yes, very sunny. | 10:40 |
| nigelb | I'm feeling lazy though. I'd rather sit in my room all day than go out and explore London. | 10:43 |
| brobostigon | might have a strol into town this afternoon, sit in a beer garden for a few hours. | 10:44 |
| jussi | Myrtti: ping | 11:20 |
| jussi | popey: who are you calling a ming? :p | 11:21 |
| jussi | Myrtti: came across this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/aluminium-bluetooth-keyboard-cover-for-google-nexus-7-2013-p40583.htm -might be interesting for you? | 11:22 |
| Myrtti | jussi: I've got 2012 because I don't drive a car of which glove compartment door I can use as an implement to break the screen into halves And justify buying a New one | 11:26 |
| jussi | Myrtti: no doubt a story there... anyways guess that rules it out for you. | 11:27 |
| Myrtti | true story... can you guess why fir the first time in three years d And I don't have matching mobile kit | 11:28 |
| jussi | Myrtti: that said, http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bluetooth-keyboard-and-case-for-google-nexus-7-asus-p37024.htm | 11:28 |
| Myrtti | But yeah, I'm picky about the layout. thanks anyway, I'll have a look When I'm back home from meeting Ronja for the first time | 11:30 |
| jussi | fair enough. saw it and thought you might be interested. | 11:31 |
| Myrtti | yeah definitely | 11:32 |
| Myrtti | nexus 5 screen is big enough to have a quick look But mittens are a hindrance | 11:33 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| foobarry | watching toy story 3 with the yongling | 15:36 |
| nigelb | aww | 15:41 |
| * popey is playing MGS with the kids watching me | 15:46 | |
| bigcalm | directhex: my SteamOS always starts muted already. How do I fix this? | 15:46 |
| directhex | bigcalm, did you install from Ye Olde SteamOSe? | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | directhex: yes | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | 2nd release I think | 15:47 |
| directhex | 2nd release has a major regression in audio | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | Your 2nd release that is | 15:48 |
| directhex | yeah | 15:48 |
| directhex | you can un-mute? | 15:48 |
| bigcalm | By going to the desktop to do so, yes | 15:48 |
| directhex | using the gnome volume widget? | 15:48 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 15:48 |
| directhex | use pavucontrol instead | 15:48 |
| directhex | if your system.pa is good, that should fix it not restoring properly on boot | 15:49 |
| bigcalm | Okay. I'll boot up and have a look | 15:49 |
| bigcalm | It worked, yay :) | 15:57 |
| directhex | i don't know why pavucontrol & gnome-volume-badger behave differently | 15:58 |
| bigcalm | directhex: any thoughts on why my xbox controller constantly flashes? | 16:01 |
| bigcalm | It didn't do so in Ubuntu | 16:01 |
| bigcalm | Still works, just irritating as flip | 16:01 |
| directhex | bigcalm, the xbox pad driver is heavily patched in steamos | 16:22 |
| bigcalm | It might improve with time then | 16:24 |
| directhex | bigcalm, you can review the changes using dget, debdiff, http://repo.steampowered.com/steamos/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1+steamos8.dsc and http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20130911T094539Z/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1.dsc | 16:27 |
| directhex | anyone with an interest in steamos should do so, there are interesting details in the changelog | 16:30 |
| directhex | patches/defer-input-nodes-and-led-support | 493 + | 16:32 |
| directhex | that's the xbox pad driver rewrite | 16:33 |
| daftykins | why would it need any work? is it having that steam controller's support added to it? | 16:43 |
| directhex | dunno. ask volvo | 16:46 |
| daftykins | the car manufacturer? :P | 16:48 |
| jussi | Myrtti: let me know what you think when you have had a look. I want to hear about possible good points and bad points from other perspectives also :) | 17:24 |
| Myrtti | I can't live with that 2012 keyboard | 17:26 |
| Myrtti | too stuck on touch typing on finnish layout | 17:26 |
| Myrtti | I'll ask Dunc what he thinks of the newer one | 17:26 |
| jussi | Myrtti: imagining it had the correct layout, anything else that bothers you about it? | 17:28 |
| Myrtti | ideally I'd like a universal bluetooth keyboard that isn't semidefunct when the device it's designed for dies | 17:30 |
| Myrtti | I've got one I really like apart from the fact it's got the wrong layout | 17:30 |
| jussi | ahh. so you don't really need it to be a cover? | 17:31 |
| Myrtti | http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE | 17:31 |
| Myrtti | that's the one I've got somewhere | 17:32 |
| Myrtti | no. I've got a case for it already | 17:32 |
| jussi | ahh. have you looked at the universal one from Samsung? | 17:33 |
| jussi | Myrtti: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/35977/dnddb/Samsung-Universal-Bluetooth-Keyboard-White-valkoinen-Bluetoo | 17:34 |
| Myrtti | two keys between L and Enter, won't do | 17:35 |
| Myrtti | yes, I really am picky | 17:35 |
| jussi | no problems :) | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | Microsoft Wedge looks promising | 17:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Cooking bacon using hair curlers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ105LKFCVU | 17:38 |
| jussi | ahh. btw did you look at the ones from logitech? | 17:38 |
| Myrtti | a lot of Nexus users seem to have bought the Wedge | 17:40 |
| Myrtti | (reading the reviews) | 17:40 |
| Myrtti | (from vk.fi) | 17:40 |
| jussi | wedge looks nice. However I want the stand/cover aspect also. | 17:40 |
| daftykins | wow, if you ever want to see how NOT to do storage... | 17:42 |
| daftykins | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=183747 | 17:42 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130802014808/rwby/images/6/68/6a4d386f_I_Have_No_Idea_What_I_m_Doing.jpeg | 17:51 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:51 |
| daftykins | very apt | 17:51 |
| shauno | all those in one outlet, and no fire extinguisher | 17:52 |
| Myrtti | ooh ooh http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/252587878/stress-free-great-tool-for-breadboard-wire-strippi | 17:53 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: power bill is higher than the netflix bill would have been :) | 17:53 |
| ali1234 | all i see in that thread is a gy asking a perfectly reasonable question and a bunch of neckbeards piling on telling him why his question is wrong | 19:40 |
| ali1234 | this is why people don't volunteer more information than they have to when asking questions | 19:41 |
| daftykins | the XBMC forum one? | 20:00 |
| daftykins | so you see zero problem with having 64 x 4TB disks each partitioned into 4 volumes, in no kind of RAID? | 20:01 |
| daftykins | if not then you sir are trolling | 20:01 |
| foobarry | where does he say its not raided?> | 20:13 |
| foobarry | BTW, RAID or any similar solution has been obsolete for several years now...so until I could find something better I chose not to implement anything... | 20:14 |
| foobarry | lol | 20:14 |
| foobarry | followed by | 20:14 |
| foobarry | I have always partitioned my HDDs. It's a force of habit and I have not found any reason not to... | 20:14 |
| foobarry | thats a lot of movies on 512tb | 20:15 |
| daftykins | yep he has every disk partitioned into 4 x 1TB volumes | 20:22 |
| daftykins | honestly it reads like a blatant troll :) | 20:22 |
| directhex | because ¯\(°_o)/¯ | 20:22 |
| foobarry | ok, so not striped at all though | 20:22 |
| foobarry | he's just got individual disks, and when the disk dies, he just replaces it, because he doesn't understand parity disk, or doesn't like to "waste disks" | 20:23 |
| directhex | i mean, he's talking about using an ORM, but... doesn't even seem to understand why | 20:23 |
| foobarry | maybe he has excellent backups | 20:24 |
| directhex | he backs it all up onto a stack of floppy disks | 20:24 |
| directhex | each partitioned into 2 | 20:24 |
| foobarry | maybe he has the original dvds, but 512TB sounds like a lot of material sourced from elsewhere | 20:25 |
| foobarry | the mind boggles | 20:25 |
| directhex | but every parallel file system i've used has written data more than once because disk failure is to be expected in any kind of multi-disk arrangement | 20:25 |
| directhex | like, with 128 disks, i'd expect to be swapping out one a month | 20:26 |
| foobarry | i have a 120 disk SAN thats seen > 15 drive failures since april | 20:26 |
| foobarry | and a dell one of only around 20 disks that haven't had any failed in 4 years | 20:26 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: the 120 disk san - were those vendors drives or your own? | 20:27 |
| foobarry | oracle, SATA disks interestingly | 20:27 |
| foobarry | v expensive sun disks | 20:27 |
| foobarry | but there's other factors - humidity, dust, vibrations. | 20:28 |
| foobarry | vibrations have killed more disk than anything i know | 20:28 |
| foobarry | unsure if radioacitvity plays a part | 20:28 |
| penguin42 | is your server room likely to have a problem with radioactivity? | 20:29 |
| foobarry | the oracle one..maybe | 20:33 |
| diddledan | 0.5PB array? that's nucking futs for a home user | 20:34 |
| foobarry | does anyone ask him what's on it? | 20:34 |
| diddledan | on the first page he alludes to "50,000+ titles (Music, Music Videos, Movies, etc)" | 20:35 |
| foobarry | "Seriously, one would have to be crazy to implement this in a real world setup with real data!!! | 20:35 |
| foobarry | " | 20:35 |
| foobarry | i think he's bactracking now | 20:35 |
| foobarry | Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. | 20:37 |
| diddledan | where does he get the idea that raid is obsolete? | 20:42 |
| daftykins | his flawed brain | 20:43 |
| directhex | penguin42, it's an issue for RAM, it's why ECC exists | 20:46 |
| directhex | cosmic rays | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | directhex: Well yes, but I've never had to think about radiation generally | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: There is an argument that on large arrays normal RAID can never resyncing without another failure, hence the snazzier raid-z and the like | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | or distributed object stores | 20:48 |
| foobarry | at least its not raid0 | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: i don't see what it has to do with the guy's question at all | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | redundancy is pointless on a media server, if you lose something you just download it again | 22:46 |
| daftykins | well you can be an idealist and just see what he wanted to ask | 22:46 |
| daftykins | but i prefer to insult the individual for how he's setting himself for a failure so big it doesn't matter what he's asking :D | 22:46 |
| daftykins | but i don't actually use forums anyway, that thread was linked in another channel | 22:46 |
| daftykins | also, that's a daft view, people collecting that much may not be able to *get* something again | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | the sad thing is that if he hadn't posted specs of his crazy system his thread would have just been ignored | 22:49 |
| daftykins | well it does seem to be quite crazy | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | it's probably all pr0n anyway | 22:52 |
| daftykins | do you not find it shocking the guy has to configure 2,048 shares? | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | yes his setup is pretty stupid | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | i don't disagree with that | 22:58 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 23:01 |
| ali1234 | all he needs to do is expose the object store in some format that xbmc understands | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | that doesn't necessarily mean a filesystem | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | it could be done with upnp | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | i'm sure xbmc supports other types of media servers too | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | "My question is: Are there any plans for XBMC to support distributed, cloud storage mechanism that do not rely on the traditional File(s)/Directory(ies) mechanism of FTP, Samba, and the rest?" | 23:04 |
| ali1234 | the answer: "XBMC already supports upnp, thanks you and goodnight" | 23:04 |
| daftykins | i don't know why anyone wants to run those nasty protocols | 23:05 |
| daftykins | that is, when they have sane storage | 23:05 |
| ali1234 | files and folders has never been a good way to store media files | 23:05 |
| daftykins | things like UPnP/DLNA trash gapless playback for audio though | 23:06 |
| ali1234 | false | 23:06 |
| daftykins | in implementations i've tried | 23:06 |
| daftykins | i suppose the client could request the next ahead of finishing the first | 23:06 |
| ali1234 | that's down to the player, not the server | 23:06 |
| ali1234 | yes, exactly | 23:06 |
| ali1234 | upnp just hands you a URI to where the file is | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | you can even mount a upnp server as a filesystem (software is called djmount i believe) | 23:08 |
| daftykins | i think XBMC might do that | 23:09 |
| shauno | I think the first answer he was given is perfectly valid; that's the OS' job. after that is just rubbernecking | 23:21 |
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