=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [03:21] hmm [03:22] cgroups allows you to limit the physical memory used by a process or group of processes, after it's exceeded they swap [03:22] that is AMAZING [03:22] i have wanted that feature for YEARS [03:23] no gnome-thumbnailer, you do not need 100GB of memory [03:23] and they said cgroups is only useful for servers? [04:37] cgroups> [04:37] ? [05:49] http://en.gravatar.com/alistairbuxton HAHAHAHA [05:49] i figured out how to delete gravatar profiles [05:50] and they told me it was impossible... [06:11] lol, github has this fun feature [06:11] you can put in any email you want as your gravatar [07:11] ugh bad night [07:12] i'm so tired i actually put the spoonful of baby food in my mouth instead [07:18] morning foobarry [07:18] foobarry: that doesn't sound too horrible.. I mean, it's food, right? [07:19] morning. [07:19] its the only palatable baby food - banana "porridge" [07:19] hmm adblock plus refusing to work in chrome Version 29.0.1547.76 [07:19] foobarry: I use "normal" adblock, not ABP [07:20] works fine in 32.0.1700.77 [07:20] why are you running such and old version? [07:22] hmm it should update itsekf right? [07:22] normal adblock works, i'll stick with that [07:25] * foobarry dist-upgrades [07:28] foobarry: Chrome adds a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to upgrade itself when you apt-get upgrade, yes [07:29] those versino numbers creep up [07:29] haven't updated for a few weeks [08:03] foobarry: 29 is from august last year [08:19] weird [08:19] argh /boot filled up [08:20] remove ye olde kernels [08:21] wont let me cos its full ( [08:21] what? apt-get purge should allow that [08:21] or dpkg --purge one kernel (to free up some space) [08:21] its / rather than /boot [08:22] how.. how did you do that? [08:22] don't you have a multi-gb disk? [08:22] boot is in / [08:23] can't purge cos apt-get didn't finish [08:23] and i have to go out soon :( [08:31] phew [08:31] fortunately ubuntu is more resilient than centos [08:31] haven';t rebooted yet thoug [08:39] my ugly method for that, is to rm anoldkernel && touch anoldkernel. that way it still exists when apt wants to remove it, but it's not eating disk [09:00] ali1234, AGI ALtix had it in hardware - "cpusets" [10:03] ming [10:06] hello popey [10:21] good morning everyone, [10:37] Good morning peeps :) [10:38] morning bigcalm [10:40] Morning brobostigon, bigcalm [10:40] Nice sunny day today [10:40] morning nigelb [10:40] yes, very sunny. [10:43] I'm feeling lazy though. I'd rather sit in my room all day than go out and explore London. [10:44] might have a strol into town this afternoon, sit in a beer garden for a few hours. [11:20] Myrtti: ping [11:21] popey: who are you calling a ming? :p [11:22] Myrtti: came across this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/aluminium-bluetooth-keyboard-cover-for-google-nexus-7-2013-p40583.htm -might be interesting for you? [11:26] jussi: I've got 2012 because I don't drive a car of which glove compartment door I can use as an implement to break the screen into halves And justify buying a New one [11:27] Myrtti: no doubt a story there... anyways guess that rules it out for you. [11:28] true story... can you guess why fir the first time in three years d And I don't have matching mobile kit [11:28] Myrtti: that said, http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bluetooth-keyboard-and-case-for-google-nexus-7-asus-p37024.htm [11:30] But yeah, I'm picky about the layout. thanks anyway, I'll have a look When I'm back home from meeting Ronja for the first time [11:31] fair enough. saw it and thought you might be interested. [11:32] yeah definitely [11:33] nexus 5 screen is big enough to have a quick look But mittens are a hindrance === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === roht is now known as wadzi [15:36] watching toy story 3 with the yongling [15:41] aww [15:46] * popey is playing MGS with the kids watching me [15:46] directhex: my SteamOS always starts muted already. How do I fix this? [15:47] bigcalm, did you install from Ye Olde SteamOSe? [15:47] directhex: yes [15:47] 2nd release I think [15:47] 2nd release has a major regression in audio [15:48] Your 2nd release that is [15:48] yeah [15:48] you can un-mute? [15:48] By going to the desktop to do so, yes [15:48] using the gnome volume widget? [15:48] Yes [15:48] use pavucontrol instead [15:49] if your system.pa is good, that should fix it not restoring properly on boot [15:49] Okay. I'll boot up and have a look [15:57] It worked, yay :) [15:58] i don't know why pavucontrol & gnome-volume-badger behave differently [16:01] directhex: any thoughts on why my xbox controller constantly flashes? [16:01] It didn't do so in Ubuntu [16:01] Still works, just irritating as flip [16:22] bigcalm, the xbox pad driver is heavily patched in steamos [16:24] It might improve with time then [16:27] bigcalm, you can review the changes using dget, debdiff, http://repo.steampowered.com/steamos/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1+steamos8.dsc and http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20130911T094539Z/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1.dsc [16:30] anyone with an interest in steamos should do so, there are interesting details in the changelog [16:32] patches/defer-input-nodes-and-led-support | 493 + [16:33] that's the xbox pad driver rewrite [16:43] why would it need any work? is it having that steam controller's support added to it? [16:46] dunno. ask volvo [16:48] the car manufacturer? :P [17:24] Myrtti: let me know what you think when you have had a look. I want to hear about possible good points and bad points from other perspectives also :) [17:26] I can't live with that 2012 keyboard [17:26] too stuck on touch typing on finnish layout [17:26] I'll ask Dunc what he thinks of the newer one [17:28] Myrtti: imagining it had the correct layout, anything else that bothers you about it? [17:30] ideally I'd like a universal bluetooth keyboard that isn't semidefunct when the device it's designed for dies [17:30] I've got one I really like apart from the fact it's got the wrong layout [17:31] ahh. so you don't really need it to be a cover? [17:31] http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE [17:32] that's the one I've got somewhere [17:32] no. I've got a case for it already [17:33] ahh. have you looked at the universal one from Samsung? [17:34] Myrtti: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/35977/dnddb/Samsung-Universal-Bluetooth-Keyboard-White-valkoinen-Bluetoo [17:35] two keys between L and Enter, won't do [17:35] yes, I really am picky [17:36] no problems :) [17:38] Microsoft Wedge looks promising [17:38] Cooking bacon using hair curlers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ105LKFCVU [17:38] ahh. btw did you look at the ones from logitech? [17:40] a lot of Nexus users seem to have bought the Wedge [17:40] (reading the reviews) [17:40] (from vk.fi) [17:40] wedge looks nice. However I want the stand/cover aspect also. [17:42] wow, if you ever want to see how NOT to do storage... [17:42] http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=183747 [17:51] daftykins: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130802014808/rwby/images/6/68/6a4d386f_I_Have_No_Idea_What_I_m_Doing.jpeg [17:51] :D [17:51] very apt [17:52] all those in one outlet, and no fire extinguisher [17:53] ooh ooh http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/252587878/stress-free-great-tool-for-breadboard-wire-strippi [17:53] shauno: power bill is higher than the netflix bill would have been :) [19:40] all i see in that thread is a gy asking a perfectly reasonable question and a bunch of neckbeards piling on telling him why his question is wrong [19:41] this is why people don't volunteer more information than they have to when asking questions [20:00] the XBMC forum one? [20:01] so you see zero problem with having 64 x 4TB disks each partitioned into 4 volumes, in no kind of RAID? [20:01] if not then you sir are trolling [20:13] where does he say its not raided?> [20:14] BTW, RAID or any similar solution has been obsolete for several years now...so until I could find something better I chose not to implement anything... [20:14] lol [20:14] followed by [20:14] I have always partitioned my HDDs. It's a force of habit and I have not found any reason not to... [20:15] thats a lot of movies on 512tb [20:22] yep he has every disk partitioned into 4 x 1TB volumes [20:22] honestly it reads like a blatant troll :) [20:22] because ¯\(°_o)/¯ [20:22] ok, so not striped at all though [20:23] he's just got individual disks, and when the disk dies, he just replaces it, because he doesn't understand parity disk, or doesn't like to "waste disks" [20:23] i mean, he's talking about using an ORM, but... doesn't even seem to understand why [20:24] maybe he has excellent backups [20:24] he backs it all up onto a stack of floppy disks [20:24] each partitioned into 2 [20:25] maybe he has the original dvds, but 512TB sounds like a lot of material sourced from elsewhere [20:25] the mind boggles [20:25] but every parallel file system i've used has written data more than once because disk failure is to be expected in any kind of multi-disk arrangement [20:26] like, with 128 disks, i'd expect to be swapping out one a month [20:26] i have a 120 disk SAN thats seen > 15 drive failures since april [20:26] and a dell one of only around 20 disks that haven't had any failed in 4 years [20:27] foobarry: the 120 disk san - were those vendors drives or your own? [20:27] oracle, SATA disks interestingly [20:27] v expensive sun disks [20:28] but there's other factors - humidity, dust, vibrations. [20:28] vibrations have killed more disk than anything i know [20:28] unsure if radioacitvity plays a part [20:29] is your server room likely to have a problem with radioactivity? [20:33] the oracle one..maybe [20:34] 0.5PB array? that's nucking futs for a home user [20:34] does anyone ask him what's on it? [20:35] on the first page he alludes to "50,000+ titles (Music, Music Videos, Movies, etc)" [20:35] "Seriously, one would have to be crazy to implement this in a real world setup with real data!!! [20:35] " [20:35] i think he's bactracking now [20:37] Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. [20:42] where does he get the idea that raid is obsolete? [20:43] his flawed brain [20:46] penguin42, it's an issue for RAM, it's why ECC exists [20:46] cosmic rays [20:48] directhex: Well yes, but I've never had to think about radiation generally [20:48] diddledan: There is an argument that on large arrays normal RAID can never resyncing without another failure, hence the snazzier raid-z and the like [20:48] or distributed object stores [20:57] at least its not raid0 [22:46] daftykins: i don't see what it has to do with the guy's question at all [22:46] redundancy is pointless on a media server, if you lose something you just download it again [22:46] well you can be an idealist and just see what he wanted to ask [22:46] but i prefer to insult the individual for how he's setting himself for a failure so big it doesn't matter what he's asking :D [22:46] but i don't actually use forums anyway, that thread was linked in another channel [22:46] also, that's a daft view, people collecting that much may not be able to *get* something again [22:49] the sad thing is that if he hadn't posted specs of his crazy system his thread would have just been ignored [22:51] well it does seem to be quite crazy [22:52] it's probably all pr0n anyway [22:58] do you not find it shocking the guy has to configure 2,048 shares? [22:58] yes his setup is pretty stupid [22:58] i don't disagree with that [23:01] ^_^ [23:02] all he needs to do is expose the object store in some format that xbmc understands [23:02] that doesn't necessarily mean a filesystem [23:02] it could be done with upnp [23:02] i'm sure xbmc supports other types of media servers too [23:04] "My question is: Are there any plans for XBMC to support distributed, cloud storage mechanism that do not rely on the traditional File(s)/Directory(ies) mechanism of FTP, Samba, and the rest?" [23:04] the answer: "XBMC already supports upnp, thanks you and goodnight" [23:05] i don't know why anyone wants to run those nasty protocols [23:05] that is, when they have sane storage [23:05] files and folders has never been a good way to store media files [23:06] things like UPnP/DLNA trash gapless playback for audio though [23:06] false [23:06] in implementations i've tried [23:06] i suppose the client could request the next ahead of finishing the first [23:06] that's down to the player, not the server [23:06] yes, exactly [23:07] upnp just hands you a URI to where the file is [23:08] you can even mount a upnp server as a filesystem (software is called djmount i believe) [23:09] i think XBMC might do that [23:21] I think the first answer he was given is perfectly valid; that's the OS' job. after that is just rubbernecking