[00:04] yeah [00:04] kinda of a pain [00:04] kind of* [00:06] I suppose because there is usually a country for local teams [00:06] just that the US has 50 states and I suppose some territories and such [00:07] right that makes sense [00:23] i just got a fresh ubuntu server install going on some old hardware [00:23] always fun [00:23] very nice to hear [00:23] i've been all redhat centos for a while [00:24] but i'm back with ubuntu, work is doing a change over [00:24] * valorie was just dealing with a stubborn debian guy on #kubuntu [00:24] all new installs are ubuntu at work now [00:24] ahh debian [00:24] yeah [00:24] i still can't deal with kde [00:24] multiple screens don't work -- install Kscreen [00:24] i love MATE [00:24] can't, it's TOO NEW [00:24] sheesh [00:24] oh ha [00:24] yeah [00:25] so I just sent him off to OFTC [00:25] oftc? [00:25] the debian irc network [00:25] gotcha [00:25] makes sense [00:25] send him to them [00:25] if he's using debian [00:25] exactly [00:25] he's back in the dark ages, and if he likes that, fine [00:26] but I don't know how to make fire with two sticks [00:27] nice analogy [00:27] it was born from frustration [00:27] lol [00:27] also: I have actually tried to create a spark with two sticks, and it's *really difficult* [00:28] even using flint and iron is hard, because you have to get the spark in the right place [00:29] no wonder matches and lighters were invented, geez [07:24] * koanhead is a stubborn Debian guy running MATE :^) [07:25] hey, if the tool is fit for what you want/need to do, fine [07:25] like I said, I like debian [07:25] but dislike whining about not being able to use modern apps/widgets/etc. [07:26] also: stubborn can be admirable [07:26] depending on what you are being stubborn about! [08:58] valorie: I just love debian, even when it's cruel to me [08:59] that reveals so much, koanhead [08:59] lol [09:08] xubuntu is cool too I guess [09:08] I'm enjoying MATE so far, it's almost like having my old workflow back :^) [09:09] I'm friends with everybody