| Kilos | morning all | 07:33 |
|---|---|---|
| Golynx | Morning | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx write this down and keep inna safe place | 07:47 |
| Golynx | Hi Kilos, ok | 07:47 |
| Kilos | sooner or later you gonna enter password when booting and it will keep going back to that popup | 07:47 |
| Kilos | log in as guest | 07:48 |
| Kilos | press ctrl+alt+F3 | 07:48 |
| Kilos | type in your username and password | 07:48 |
| Golynx | Hmm, will that still happen in future , or do i have to do something first | 07:48 |
| Kilos | wait | 07:49 |
| Kilos | it happened to me now | 07:49 |
| Golynx | ok | 07:49 |
| Kilos | before you ctrl+alt+F33 | 07:49 |
| Kilos | 3 not 33 | 07:49 |
| Kilos | connect to the internet | 07:49 |
| Kilos | as the guest | 07:49 |
| Kilos | then ctrl+alt+F3 | 07:50 |
| Kilos | then login with your username and password | 07:50 |
| Kilos | so now you will be in cli mode but will be online | 07:50 |
| Kilos | type in | 07:50 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install gdm | 07:51 |
| Kilos | the lightdm gui manager seems buggy if you fiddle lots | 07:51 |
| Kilos | you will get the choice to use lightdm or gdm | 07:51 |
| Kilos | choose gdm | 07:52 |
| Kilos | once done then do sudo reboot | 07:52 |
| Kilos | and you will see an extra place, you hit enter then password and hey presto | 07:53 |
| Golynx | Fixed ? | 07:53 |
| Kilos | yes | 07:53 |
| Golynx | ok | 07:53 |
| Kilos | gnome desktop manager works kiff | 07:54 |
| Kilos | i see what you mean about the funny stuff | 07:54 |
| Kilos | i only have 4 desktops | 07:55 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:55 |
| Kilos | does that ubuntu-tweak give options to add workspaces | 07:55 |
| Golynx | Well i found a way to disable the annoying ubity scrollbar, now i got a nice solid scrollber, with no stupid effects | 07:55 |
| Kilos | like myunity | 07:55 |
| Golynx | Yes you can in ubuntu tweak | 07:56 |
| Kilos | yay then you can help me later | 07:56 |
| Golynx | more than 4 | 07:56 |
| Kilos | how big is tweak | 07:56 |
| Kilos | ive blown most of me data | 07:56 |
| Kilos | i use 10 | 07:56 |
| Golynx | 1MB | 07:56 |
| Kilos | thats cool | 07:57 |
| Kilos | link? | 07:57 |
| Golynx | I cant get the link from the site but just click Download now! http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ | 08:00 |
| Kilos | np | 08:00 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 08:00 |
| Golynx | np | 08:01 |
| Golynx | gconf-editor and dconf-editor is a nice tool to configure unity 2D , more stuff there | 08:02 |
| Kilos | i use 3d | 08:05 |
| Kilos | or full unity | 08:05 |
| Golynx | In System settings there should be green ubuntu-tweak icon , you can choose unity and it will give you options there | 08:05 |
| Golynx | oh ok | 08:05 |
| Kilos | whew so much stuff | 08:08 |
| Golynx | I think there's 36 workspaces there | 08:09 |
| Kilos | whats launcher opacity? | 08:09 |
| Kilos | under what button | 08:09 |
| Golynx | When you move a window under the launcher the see through effect | 08:10 |
| Kilos | Maaz, define opacity | 08:10 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Opacity \O*pac"i*ty\, n. [L. opacitas: cf. F. opacit['e].] 1. The state of being opaque; the quality of a body which renders it impervious to the rays of light; want of transparency; opaqueness. [1913 Webster] 2. Obscurity; want of clearness. --Bp. Hall. [1913 Webster], opacity n 1: the phenomenon of not permitting the passage of electromagnetic radiation | 08:10 |
| Maaz | [ant: {transparence}, {transparency}] 2: incomprehensibility resulting from obscurity of m… | 08:10 |
| Golynx | By me it says Number of workspaces: | 08:10 |
| Kilos | where | 08:12 |
| Golynx | Tweaks >> Unity >> Number of workspaces : option | 08:13 |
| Kilos | i dont see unity | 08:13 |
| Golynx | Hmm, i dunno about the 3D unity it shows in 2D | 08:14 |
| Kilos | or number of workspaces | 08:14 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:14 |
| Golynx | It should show all and more options there | 08:14 |
| Golynx | since its full unity | 08:15 |
| Kilos | hud and shortlinks | 08:15 |
| Kilos | and opacity stuff | 08:15 |
| Golynx | Does'nt compiz manager have that setting | 08:15 |
| Kilos | ? | 08:16 |
| Kilos | maybe i have got compiz even | 08:16 |
| Kilos | havent | 08:16 |
| Golynx | Compiz is the graphics stuff manager for unity 3D | 08:17 |
| Golynx | Should be in synaptics already installed | 08:17 |
| Kilos | ty ill look later need to rest now | 08:17 |
| Golynx | ok take care | 08:18 |
| Kilos | will do | 08:18 |
| Kilos | morning superfly Private_User | 09:12 |
| Private_User | morning Kilos | 09:12 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 09:33 |
| * Golynx hates this domain! deploy.akamaitechnologies.com | 11:12 | |
| Kilos | hi liamT | 11:40 |
| liamT | gday | 11:46 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 12:37 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 12:40 |
| Kilos | unity is coming right again. the right click on a drive or stick and format option is back | 12:43 |
| charl | good afternoon all | 12:48 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 12:48 |
| charl | hi superfly | 12:48 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 12:49 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 12:49 | |
| Golynx | Hi | 12:49 |
| charl | hi Golynx | 12:50 |
| charl | just got bitlbee set up with libpurple and pidgin-sipe | 12:50 |
| charl | working perfectly, very impressed | 12:50 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 12:51 |
| Kilos | i like pidgin. everything works kiff there | 12:52 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 12:53 |
| Golynx | If they can make a whatsapp hack for pidgin , it will be perfect | 12:57 |
| superfly | ohi guys | 13:05 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:05 |
| Kilos | whatsapp on ubuntu is very hard work and lotsa data | 13:06 |
| Kilos | gotta do the android emulater thing | 13:06 |
| Golynx | hi superfly | 13:07 |
| Golynx | Sad , i cant do android emulator anymore on ubuntu | 13:07 |
| Golynx | I really need it for my phonegap apps | 13:07 |
| superfly | just install Android Studio? | 13:08 |
| Golynx | It used to run smooth on win7 at less than 20% cpu , but ubuntu's OpenJDK keeps using 100% cpu | 13:10 |
| superfly | which version of Ubuntu? | 13:10 |
| Golynx | 12.04 | 13:10 |
| superfly | ah, yes. that's ancient | 13:11 |
| superfly | if you used something more up-to-date, then you'd have less issues | 13:11 |
| Golynx | I guess so. I will have to find an win7 disk again. Dont have the pc quality for 12.10,13.04,13.10,14.04 | 13:13 |
| charl | whatsapp is linked to your sim card | 13:15 |
| charl | it uses your mobile phone number as your username | 13:15 |
| charl | apparently there are some ways to "hack" it | 13:15 |
| charl | which inevitably also exposes a serious security flaw in whatsapp | 13:15 |
| charl | but i have never attempted it myself | 13:15 |
| charl | but there is no "normal" way to run whatsapp unless you have a mobile phone or perhaps tablet | 13:16 |
| charl | whatsapp is basically just flawed by design | 13:16 |
| charl | and even though it is based off the open standard xmpp protocol it has no federation | 13:17 |
| charl | at work we have lync which does have xmpp federation | 13:18 |
| charl | but lync only allows it with a very limited number of services | 13:18 |
| charl | so you can't for example chat to users on any of the jabber servers | 13:18 |
| charl | but you can chat to and call users of other microsoft services like skype | 13:18 |
| charl | lync only uses xmpp for s2s though, for c2s you use a protocol based off SIP/SIMPLE | 13:19 |
| charl | that's why you need the open source sipe library if you want to connect to lync using pidgin or bitlbee | 13:20 |
| charl | or any other client that is based off libpurple | 13:20 |
| Golynx | that sounds interesting charls, but i will wait for a pidgin whatsapp plugin | 13:22 |
| Kilos | http://davidgf.net/page/39/whatsapp-on-your-computer:-pidgin-plugin | 13:24 |
| Kilos | i will try that next month i think | 13:25 |
| Kilos | no data to play with | 13:25 |
| charl | Golynx: if you read what i said above you will know that you will never get one :) | 13:28 |
| charl | unless it is a hack that exposes a serious security flaw with whatsapp | 13:28 |
| Kilos | charl look at that link | 13:28 |
| charl | looking now | 13:29 |
| Kilos | i dont mind whatsapp having flaws as long as i can use it | 13:29 |
| Kilos | i dunno what or where to download it | 13:29 |
| Kilos | oh its there further down | 13:30 |
| charl | ah here it explains it on the github page | 13:30 |
| charl | https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple | 13:30 |
| charl | look under How do I get my user name and password? | 13:30 |
| Kilos | i wanna try add the ppa | 13:31 |
| charl | https://github.com/shirioko/MissVenom | 13:31 |
| charl | Usage: To sniff password: | 13:32 |
| Kilos | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:whatsapp-purple/ppa | 13:32 |
| Kilos | is that how you do it | 13:32 |
| Golynx | I actually used whatsapp on pc with win7 via a symbian emulator. These thing dont work for me in ubuntu | 13:32 |
| charl | this is also good: http://blog.philippheckel.com/2013/07/05/how-to-sniff-the-whatsapp-password-from-your-android-phone-or-iphone/ | 13:32 |
| charl | so the short version is, just to get it working, you have to execute a man in the middle attack on your mobile phone | 13:33 |
| charl | this is what i said above, why libpurple will never "officially" support it | 13:34 |
| charl | but fortunately there are enough people out there that will create patches | 13:34 |
| charl | however, this is not where to story ends | 13:38 |
| charl | if you can "fake" a sim, you can register any number you like | 13:38 |
| charl | even if the number does not belong to you | 13:38 |
| Kilos | what about the number of the sim in the 3g modem ChanServ ? | 13:39 |
| Kilos | its yours | 13:39 |
| charl | well that number is yours indeed so there is nothing wrong with using it | 13:39 |
| charl | nothing unethical | 13:39 |
| Kilos | i have the pidgin plugin going but lost from there now | 13:40 |
| charl | i will try to help you best i can but i am busy making lunch here so response might be slow | 13:41 |
| Kilos | np ty | 13:41 |
| Kilos | everyone seems to be on whatsapp nowadays | 13:42 |
| charl | got a pot of hot water with tortelloni verdi on my induction cooking plate | 13:42 |
| Kilos | just need a username and password | 13:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:42 |
| charl | it's a german "steba" plate - it works absolutely wonderful | 13:43 |
| Kilos | surely you need to have a registered whatsapp username and password done via fone first | 13:43 |
| charl | that's exactly the problem Kilos | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:43 |
| charl | to "properly" do that you will need to run the whatsapp application on an actual mobile phone or tablet | 13:43 |
| charl | and then you need to connect that to wifi while you register the account | 13:44 |
| Kilos | no modern cells here | 13:44 |
| charl | while registering you need to perform an effective man in the middle attack on that phone or tablet | 13:44 |
| Kilos | will have to ask ian what he can do for me | 13:44 |
| charl | meaning you need to sniff the packets and sniff the whatsapp username and password out of it | 13:44 |
| charl | but it gets worse | 13:44 |
| Kilos | eeek | 13:44 |
| charl | you need to make sure that whatsapp does not use encryption | 13:44 |
| charl | so you need to redirect the encrypted connection to an unencrypted tunnel through your computer | 13:45 |
| Kilos | whew | 13:45 |
| Kilos | same as trying the android emulator. major pt | 13:45 |
| Kilos | but pidgin always very light on data | 13:46 |
| Kilos | much less than irc | 13:46 |
| charl | actually, an encrypted tunnel, but where you are the one controlling the encryption | 13:47 |
| charl | or where you can crack it | 13:48 |
| charl | i am reading through the above posts but the exact procedure isn't clear to me either | 13:48 |
| charl | but it sounds really complex | 13:48 |
| charl | this is not something i would attempt on a saturday afternoon | 13:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:48 |
| Golynx | In the future i wana make a pidgin plugin that shows only the facebook updates of people i wana see posts from. Beats going into an app all the time or web browser | 13:49 |
| Kilos | maybe its like mxit | 13:49 |
| Kilos | you register via cell then use those particulars in pidgin | 13:49 |
| charl | Golynx: afaik facebook has a standard xmpp interface so that should be simple to do | 13:49 |
| charl | Golynx: because you can make use of any existing xmpp library | 13:49 |
| Kilos | pidgin has a fb plugin | 13:49 |
| charl | Kilos: the problem is you do not have any control over the password in whatsapp | 13:50 |
| charl | Kilos: it is automatically generated using the application itself | 13:50 |
| charl | Kilos: that means, to get the password is the problem | 13:50 |
| Kilos | oh my | 13:50 |
| Golynx | Yes i already use facebook messenger plugin for pidgin | 13:50 |
| charl | you should be able to base it directly off that, just create your own patch to libpurple like this other person did | 13:51 |
| charl | then you can even use it inside of other clients like bitlbee too | 13:51 |
| Kilos | if you see too many fb peeps in pidgin you can block some of them | 13:51 |
| Golynx | I will wana make it show actual posts from facebook users. That requiers more programming | 13:51 |
| Kilos | please work it out for me charl | 13:52 |
| Kilos | not fb | 13:52 |
| Kilos | fb pidgin sucks | 13:52 |
| Kilos | too many peeps | 13:52 |
| Golynx | lol Kilos | 13:52 |
| Golynx | Cant be, just disable showing offline friends and show from last actvity | 13:53 |
| Kilos | i have mxit and aim in pidgin and gtalk sometimes too | 13:56 |
| Kilos | no place for fb | 13:56 |
| Golynx | Aah personal preference | 13:57 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:57 |
| charl | Kilos: i *think* it can be done | 14:08 |
| charl | using whatsapi: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI | 14:08 |
| charl | How can I obtain my password? | 14:09 |
| charl | Register a number using WhatsAPI or intercept your phone's password using MissVenom | 14:09 |
| charl | because you don't already have an account you can simply register your new number using whatsapi | 14:09 |
| charl | do you know what your number is? | 14:09 |
| charl | here's a good example: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/exampleRegister.php | 14:17 |
| charl | no wait, actually you are looking for this: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/whatsprot.class.php#L164 | 14:20 |
| charl | Register account on WhatsApp using the provided code. | 14:21 |
| charl | you give your phone number when you construct the object: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/whatsprot.class.php#L61 | 14:23 |
| charl | i'm not sure what the whole $identity business is | 14:23 |
| charl | if it's not valid it seems to construct a new one | 14:23 |
| charl | conclusion: it looks pretty well documented but you will need to do some programming and trial/error | 14:24 |
| charl | what the legality etc is, and if this is against the terms of service of whatsapp, that i do not know | 14:25 |
| charl | only thing i know for sure is this is something i would not even want to attempt | 14:25 |
| Kilos | ya i know the sim in the modems number | 14:25 |
| Kilos | sorr i fetched the sheep | 14:25 |
| charl | np | 14:26 |
| charl | so basically, you input your phone number and desired "friendly" name and you get back a generated password | 14:27 |
| charl | i just don't understand the whole identity business | 14:27 |
| Kilos | i cant do programming man | 14:28 |
| charl | don't even bother then :) | 14:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:28 |
| charl | sorry but that's the only answer i can give you | 14:29 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:29 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:29 |
| charl | np :) | 14:29 |
| charl | if i had a mobile phone and i wasn't concerned about the legality i would have attempted it myself first | 14:29 |
| Golynx | Aah php :) | 14:29 |
| charl | then i could have given you better instructions | 14:29 |
| Kilos | ill get ian to register from his modems sim | 14:30 |
| charl | yeah exactly | 14:30 |
| charl | ask someone with an android phone, but then you will still need to do the man in the middle attack | 14:30 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:31 |
| charl | sorry but i would really not advise, but this is up to you :) | 14:31 |
| Golynx | Whatsapp will always wana patch up though. Else they loose money | 14:34 |
| Kilos | i would like to have it because ian says it dont eat fone battery like mxit so they all use whatsapp | 14:39 |
| charl | you get some really cheap android phones these days, especially those from huawei | 14:43 |
| charl | they cost practically nothing and they are quite solid | 14:43 |
| charl | i used to have one of those, the huawei ideos | 14:43 |
| Golynx | Saw a vodafone launch 2013 selling at 699 with android 4.2. Thats very cheap for running such an os | 14:46 |
| charl | just googled some more and it looks like using an android emulator is the way to go | 14:48 |
| Kilos | eek | 14:48 |
| charl | then you can also emulate your phone number / sim card | 14:48 |
| Kilos | i can get a 500g drive for that price or less | 14:48 |
| charl | Golynx: this one i had cost like half of that | 14:48 |
| charl | bought it in kenya | 14:49 |
| Golynx | Hope not the black market charl | 14:50 |
| charl | no of course not, bah | 14:51 |
| charl | that's the regular selling price | 14:51 |
| Golynx | oh thats good | 14:53 |
| charl | https://singularityhub.com/2011/08/16/80-android-phone-sells-like-hotcakes-in-kenya-the-world-next/ | 15:01 |
| charl | http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/safaricom,-huawei-officially-launch-ideos-ascend-y100/ | 15:03 |
| charl | The device which was launched at a subsidised price of Ksh 8,500 and 1 GB of bundled data. | 15:03 |
| charl | 8500 ksh is about 100 usd | 15:03 |
| charl | but it *is* subsidised mind you | 15:03 |
| Golynx | Hmm nice, that would be a good market for my phonegap apps | 15:03 |
| charl | but the one i had was the one from 2011, the former 80 dollar phone | 15:03 |
| charl | the phone *was* slow though | 15:04 |
| charl | openstreetmap was impossible to use | 15:04 |
| charl | didn't try that many apps, ran off android 2,2 or 2,4 or something | 15:04 |
| Golynx | ya that depends on the OS , the newer ones can handle more processes | 15:05 |
| charl | no the processor was terrible | 15:05 |
| charl | http://www.huaweidevice.com/resource/mini/201008174756/ideos/ | 15:06 |
| charl | i actually thought it cost even less, the one i got, 80 usd sounds expensive now | 15:07 |
| charl | maybe it was a different exchange rate back then | 15:08 |
| charl | i thought it cost like half that | 15:08 |
| Golynx | lol yeah thats old hardware | 15:19 |
| Golynx | R699 for a Android 4.2 OS in 2013 is really cheap | 15:23 |
| charl | it sounds really good | 15:30 |
| charl | oh whow 47 euro | 15:30 |
| charl | that is cheap indeed | 15:30 |
| Kilos | Seagate® Barracuda™ 500GB ,7200RPM (SATA 6GB/S) 16 MB Cache | 15:30 |
| Kilos | R549+vat | 15:30 |
| charl | i saw a polaroid phone the other day for 100 euro | 15:30 |
| charl | ok i need to do some work | 15:32 |
| charl | bbl | 15:32 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 15:32 |
| Kilos | bbl | 15:33 |
| Kilos | bedtime for me. night all. sleep tight | 18:43 |
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