[07:33] morning all [07:46] Morning [07:47] hi Golynx write this down and keep inna safe place [07:47] Hi Kilos, ok [07:47] sooner or later you gonna enter password when booting and it will keep going back to that popup [07:48] log in as guest [07:48] press ctrl+alt+F3 [07:48] type in your username and password [07:48] Hmm, will that still happen in future , or do i have to do something first [07:49] wait [07:49] it happened to me now [07:49] ok [07:49] before you ctrl+alt+F33 [07:49] 3 not 33 [07:49] connect to the internet [07:49] as the guest [07:50] then ctrl+alt+F3 [07:50] then login with your username and password [07:50] so now you will be in cli mode but will be online [07:50] type in [07:51] sudo aptitude install gdm [07:51] the lightdm gui manager seems buggy if you fiddle lots [07:51] you will get the choice to use lightdm or gdm [07:52] choose gdm [07:52] once done then do sudo reboot [07:53] and you will see an extra place, you hit enter then password and hey presto [07:53] Fixed ? [07:53] yes [07:53] ok [07:54] gnome desktop manager works kiff [07:54] i see what you mean about the funny stuff [07:55] i only have 4 desktops [07:55] grrr [07:55] does that ubuntu-tweak give options to add workspaces [07:55] Well i found a way to disable the annoying ubity scrollbar, now i got a nice solid scrollber, with no stupid effects [07:55] like myunity [07:56] Yes you can in ubuntu tweak [07:56] yay then you can help me later [07:56] more than 4 [07:56] how big is tweak [07:56] ive blown most of me data [07:56] i use 10 [07:56] 1MB [07:57] thats cool [07:57] link? [08:00] I cant get the link from the site but just click Download now! http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ [08:00] np [08:00] ok ty [08:01] np [08:02] gconf-editor and dconf-editor is a nice tool to configure unity 2D , more stuff there [08:05] i use 3d [08:05] or full unity [08:05] In System settings there should be green ubuntu-tweak icon , you can choose unity and it will give you options there [08:05] oh ok [08:08] whew so much stuff [08:09] I think there's 36 workspaces there [08:09] whats launcher opacity? [08:09] under what button [08:10] When you move a window under the launcher the see through effect [08:10] Maaz, define opacity [08:10] Kilos: Opacity \O*pac"i*ty\, n. [L. opacitas: cf. F. opacit['e].] 1. The state of being opaque; the quality of a body which renders it impervious to the rays of light; want of transparency; opaqueness. [1913 Webster] 2. Obscurity; want of clearness. --Bp. Hall. [1913 Webster], opacity n 1: the phenomenon of not permitting the passage of electromagnetic radiation [08:10] [ant: {transparence}, {transparency}] 2: incomprehensibility resulting from obscurity of m… [08:10] By me it says Number of workspaces: [08:12] where [08:13] Tweaks >> Unity >> Number of workspaces : option [08:13] i dont see unity [08:14] Hmm, i dunno about the 3D unity it shows in 2D [08:14] or number of workspaces [08:14] sigh [08:14] It should show all and more options there [08:15] since its full unity [08:15] hud and shortlinks [08:15] and opacity stuff [08:15] Does'nt compiz manager have that setting [08:16] ? [08:16] maybe i have got compiz even [08:16] havent [08:17] Compiz is the graphics stuff manager for unity 3D [08:17] Should be in synaptics already installed [08:17] ty ill look later need to rest now [08:18] ok take care [08:18] will do [09:12] morning superfly Private_User [09:12] morning Kilos [09:33] hi psydroid [11:12] * Golynx hates this domain! deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [11:40] hi liamT [11:46] gday [12:37] hi Kilos [12:40] ohi superfly [12:43] unity is coming right again. the right click on a drive or stick and format option is back [12:48] good afternoon all [12:48] hi Kilos [12:48] hi superfly [12:49] Maaz: coffee on [12:49] * Maaz puts the kettle on [12:49] Hi [12:50] hi Golynx [12:50] just got bitlbee set up with libpurple and pidgin-sipe [12:50] working perfectly, very impressed [12:51] hi charl [12:52] i like pidgin. everything works kiff there [12:53] Coffee's ready for charl! [12:57] If they can make a whatsapp hack for pidgin , it will be perfect [13:05] ohi guys [13:05] yeah [13:06] whatsapp on ubuntu is very hard work and lotsa data [13:06] gotta do the android emulater thing [13:07] hi superfly [13:07] Sad , i cant do android emulator anymore on ubuntu [13:07] I really need it for my phonegap apps [13:08] just install Android Studio? [13:10] It used to run smooth on win7 at less than 20% cpu , but ubuntu's OpenJDK keeps using 100% cpu [13:10] which version of Ubuntu? [13:10] 12.04 [13:11] ah, yes. that's ancient [13:11] if you used something more up-to-date, then you'd have less issues [13:13] I guess so. I will have to find an win7 disk again. Dont have the pc quality for 12.10,13.04,13.10,14.04 [13:15] whatsapp is linked to your sim card [13:15] it uses your mobile phone number as your username [13:15] apparently there are some ways to "hack" it [13:15] which inevitably also exposes a serious security flaw in whatsapp [13:15] but i have never attempted it myself [13:16] but there is no "normal" way to run whatsapp unless you have a mobile phone or perhaps tablet [13:16] whatsapp is basically just flawed by design [13:17] and even though it is based off the open standard xmpp protocol it has no federation [13:18] at work we have lync which does have xmpp federation [13:18] but lync only allows it with a very limited number of services [13:18] so you can't for example chat to users on any of the jabber servers [13:18] but you can chat to and call users of other microsoft services like skype [13:19] lync only uses xmpp for s2s though, for c2s you use a protocol based off SIP/SIMPLE [13:20] that's why you need the open source sipe library if you want to connect to lync using pidgin or bitlbee [13:20] or any other client that is based off libpurple [13:22] that sounds interesting charls, but i will wait for a pidgin whatsapp plugin [13:24] http://davidgf.net/page/39/whatsapp-on-your-computer:-pidgin-plugin [13:25] i will try that next month i think [13:25] no data to play with [13:28] Golynx: if you read what i said above you will know that you will never get one :) [13:28] unless it is a hack that exposes a serious security flaw with whatsapp [13:28] charl look at that link [13:29] looking now [13:29] i dont mind whatsapp having flaws as long as i can use it [13:29] i dunno what or where to download it [13:30] oh its there further down [13:30] ah here it explains it on the github page [13:30] https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple [13:30] look under How do I get my user name and password? [13:31] i wanna try add the ppa [13:31] https://github.com/shirioko/MissVenom [13:32] Usage: To sniff password: [13:32] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:whatsapp-purple/ppa [13:32] is that how you do it [13:32] I actually used whatsapp on pc with win7 via a symbian emulator. These thing dont work for me in ubuntu [13:32] this is also good: http://blog.philippheckel.com/2013/07/05/how-to-sniff-the-whatsapp-password-from-your-android-phone-or-iphone/ [13:33] so the short version is, just to get it working, you have to execute a man in the middle attack on your mobile phone [13:34] this is what i said above, why libpurple will never "officially" support it [13:34] but fortunately there are enough people out there that will create patches [13:38] however, this is not where to story ends [13:38] if you can "fake" a sim, you can register any number you like [13:38] even if the number does not belong to you [13:39] what about the number of the sim in the 3g modem ChanServ ? [13:39] its yours [13:39] well that number is yours indeed so there is nothing wrong with using it [13:39] nothing unethical [13:40] i have the pidgin plugin going but lost from there now [13:41] i will try to help you best i can but i am busy making lunch here so response might be slow [13:41] np ty [13:42] everyone seems to be on whatsapp nowadays [13:42] got a pot of hot water with tortelloni verdi on my induction cooking plate [13:42] just need a username and password [13:42] lol [13:43] it's a german "steba" plate - it works absolutely wonderful [13:43] surely you need to have a registered whatsapp username and password done via fone first [13:43] that's exactly the problem Kilos [13:43] ai! [13:43] to "properly" do that you will need to run the whatsapp application on an actual mobile phone or tablet [13:44] and then you need to connect that to wifi while you register the account [13:44] no modern cells here [13:44] while registering you need to perform an effective man in the middle attack on that phone or tablet [13:44] will have to ask ian what he can do for me [13:44] meaning you need to sniff the packets and sniff the whatsapp username and password out of it [13:44] but it gets worse [13:44] eeek [13:44] you need to make sure that whatsapp does not use encryption [13:45] so you need to redirect the encrypted connection to an unencrypted tunnel through your computer [13:45] whew [13:45] same as trying the android emulator. major pt [13:46] but pidgin always very light on data [13:46] much less than irc [13:47] actually, an encrypted tunnel, but where you are the one controlling the encryption [13:48] or where you can crack it [13:48] i am reading through the above posts but the exact procedure isn't clear to me either [13:48] but it sounds really complex [13:48] this is not something i would attempt on a saturday afternoon [13:48] lol [13:49] In the future i wana make a pidgin plugin that shows only the facebook updates of people i wana see posts from. Beats going into an app all the time or web browser [13:49] maybe its like mxit [13:49] you register via cell then use those particulars in pidgin [13:49] Golynx: afaik facebook has a standard xmpp interface so that should be simple to do [13:49] Golynx: because you can make use of any existing xmpp library [13:49] pidgin has a fb plugin [13:50] Kilos: the problem is you do not have any control over the password in whatsapp [13:50] Kilos: it is automatically generated using the application itself [13:50] Kilos: that means, to get the password is the problem [13:50] oh my [13:50] Yes i already use facebook messenger plugin for pidgin [13:51] you should be able to base it directly off that, just create your own patch to libpurple like this other person did [13:51] then you can even use it inside of other clients like bitlbee too [13:51] if you see too many fb peeps in pidgin you can block some of them [13:51] I will wana make it show actual posts from facebook users. That requiers more programming [13:52] please work it out for me charl [13:52] not fb [13:52] fb pidgin sucks [13:52] too many peeps [13:52] lol Kilos [13:53] Cant be, just disable showing offline friends and show from last actvity [13:56] i have mxit and aim in pidgin and gtalk sometimes too [13:56] no place for fb [13:57] Aah personal preference [13:57] yeah [14:08] Kilos: i *think* it can be done [14:08] using whatsapi: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI [14:09] How can I obtain my password? [14:09] Register a number using WhatsAPI or intercept your phone's password using MissVenom [14:09] because you don't already have an account you can simply register your new number using whatsapi [14:09] do you know what your number is? [14:17] here's a good example: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/exampleRegister.php [14:20] no wait, actually you are looking for this: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/whatsprot.class.php#L164 [14:21] Register account on WhatsApp using the provided code. [14:23] you give your phone number when you construct the object: https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/blob/master/src/php/whatsprot.class.php#L61 [14:23] i'm not sure what the whole $identity business is [14:23] if it's not valid it seems to construct a new one [14:24] conclusion: it looks pretty well documented but you will need to do some programming and trial/error [14:25] what the legality etc is, and if this is against the terms of service of whatsapp, that i do not know [14:25] only thing i know for sure is this is something i would not even want to attempt [14:25] ya i know the sim in the modems number [14:25] sorr i fetched the sheep [14:26] np [14:27] so basically, you input your phone number and desired "friendly" name and you get back a generated password [14:27] i just don't understand the whole identity business [14:28] i cant do programming man [14:28] don't even bother then :) [14:28] lol [14:29] sorry but that's the only answer i can give you [14:29] ok [14:29] ty [14:29] np :) [14:29] if i had a mobile phone and i wasn't concerned about the legality i would have attempted it myself first [14:29] Aah php :) [14:29] then i could have given you better instructions [14:30] ill get ian to register from his modems sim [14:30] yeah exactly [14:30] ask someone with an android phone, but then you will still need to do the man in the middle attack [14:31] ai! [14:31] sorry but i would really not advise, but this is up to you :) [14:34] Whatsapp will always wana patch up though. Else they loose money [14:39] i would like to have it because ian says it dont eat fone battery like mxit so they all use whatsapp [14:43] you get some really cheap android phones these days, especially those from huawei [14:43] they cost practically nothing and they are quite solid [14:43] i used to have one of those, the huawei ideos [14:46] Saw a vodafone launch 2013 selling at 699 with android 4.2. Thats very cheap for running such an os [14:48] just googled some more and it looks like using an android emulator is the way to go [14:48] eek [14:48] then you can also emulate your phone number / sim card [14:48] i can get a 500g drive for that price or less [14:48] Golynx: this one i had cost like half of that [14:49] bought it in kenya [14:50] Hope not the black market charl [14:51] no of course not, bah [14:51] that's the regular selling price [14:53] oh thats good [15:01] https://singularityhub.com/2011/08/16/80-android-phone-sells-like-hotcakes-in-kenya-the-world-next/ [15:03] http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/safaricom,-huawei-officially-launch-ideos-ascend-y100/ [15:03] The device which was launched at a subsidised price of Ksh 8,500 and 1 GB of bundled data. [15:03] 8500 ksh is about 100 usd [15:03] but it *is* subsidised mind you [15:03] Hmm nice, that would be a good market for my phonegap apps [15:03] but the one i had was the one from 2011, the former 80 dollar phone [15:04] the phone *was* slow though [15:04] openstreetmap was impossible to use [15:04] didn't try that many apps, ran off android 2,2 or 2,4 or something [15:05] ya that depends on the OS , the newer ones can handle more processes [15:05] no the processor was terrible [15:06] http://www.huaweidevice.com/resource/mini/201008174756/ideos/ [15:07] i actually thought it cost even less, the one i got, 80 usd sounds expensive now [15:08] maybe it was a different exchange rate back then [15:08] i thought it cost like half that [15:19] lol yeah thats old hardware [15:23] R699 for a Android 4.2 OS in 2013 is really cheap [15:30] it sounds really good [15:30] oh whow 47 euro [15:30] that is cheap indeed [15:30] Seagate® Barracuda™ 500GB ,7200RPM (SATA 6GB/S) 16 MB Cache [15:30] R549+vat [15:30] i saw a polaroid phone the other day for 100 euro [15:32] ok i need to do some work [15:32] bbl [15:32] enjoy [15:33] bbl [18:43] bedtime for me. night all. sleep tight