[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: look at the grub.cfg
[00:00] <TJ-> runvnc: For caution I'd check "/etc/fstab" and be sure there isn't something that could trip it up on reboot.
[00:00] <TJ-> runvnc: Usually "update-grub" puts the most recent kernel first... check "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" you should see it is listed first
[00:00] <honeybuntu> This is the best URL address on simply installing ubuntu that i am aware of ItalianStallion. Please check it out:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/6328/how-do-i-install-ubuntu
[00:00] <TJ-> runvnc: You can change the default item number in "/etc/default/grub"
[00:01] <TJ-> runvnc: any changes to "/etc/default/grub" require "update-grub" afterwards
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: what minimum kernel version did you need?
[00:01] <FireStorms> I know ubuntu blocks port forwarding of port 80 *BUT!* can overridge this behaviour some how?
[00:01] <runvnc> I just need it to boot to 3.0 then I can remove the old kernels and do-release-upgrade to 12
[00:02] <runvnc> I am just trying to figure out which menu item # 3.0 is
[00:02] <TJ-> runvnc: look at the "linux ... lines which give the name of the vmlinuz-????
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> runvnc: ok. after a sucessful reboot. make sure you have enough free space on each drive before you start the upgrade process
[00:03] <honeybuntu> Have to go (dinner hour here). Hope all goes well or gets better after awhile for everyone in channel. B'bye til after dinner.
[00:03] <TJ-> runvnc: you'll see something like "linux   /vmlinuz-3.12.0-031200-generic root=/dev/mapper/XPSm1530-Raring ..."
[00:03] <runvnc> I just did a grep for menuentry and the first few are 3.0
[00:03] <runvnc> I am going to try to reboot thanks a lot for your help guys
[00:04] <TJ-> runvnc: good luck!
[00:04] <runvnc> if it doesnt load then I will stop bothering you guys for a few days
[00:04] <runvnc> heh because I will have to wait for someone to manually log in. I bet it will work though
[00:05] <ant_thomas> When attempting a netinstall/minimal install is it normal to have to wait ages to go from selecting the mirror to "loading additional components" I'm sure in the past this has been near enough instant but in all my recent 12.04 install it sits for a very long time. What is actually happening at this point?
[00:07] <runvnc> yay thanks it booted, hamachi worked, and it is on 3.0 now so I just need to delete a few more files and then I can upgrade again
[00:07] <runvnc> thanks
[00:07] <ites> hey
[00:08] <lickalott> TJ-, think i've pinpointed to a dbus issue
[00:08] <ites> i'm installing a new OS, and i need to provide the name of my domain. since it's a home network, i can just make something up. but they say it should be the same for every computer. i'm running ubuntu on this machine, how can i check which domain name i used?
[00:08] <ites> thanks
[00:08] <TJ-> runvnc: good to hear :)
[00:09] <TJ-> lickalott: some recent changed caused it, or has it got itself confused?
[00:09] <lickalott> within the last three/four days
[00:09] <runvnc> tj any idea why dpkg -l never seems to update after I remove things? I used apt-get remove but it always keeps in the dpkg -l list
[00:09] <runvnc> even though it says it was removed
[00:09] <lickalott> runvnc, have you ever tried a purge?
[00:10] <lickalott> or autoremove
[00:10] <runvnc> I have been running autoremove doesnt remove it from that dpkg list
[00:10] <runvnc> I will try purge
[00:10] <TJ-> runvnc: When you do "apt-get remove" it leaves the config files behind. Look at the "dpkg -l" output and you'll see the config column shows a c. If you did "apt-get purge" the config files would be removed too
[00:10] <runvnc> it says rc
[00:10] <runvnc> means removed?
[00:10] <runvnc> ok
[00:11] <TJ-> runvnc: Yes Removed, but still Configured
[00:11] <Crazydog> What am I doing wrong? Am I missing something or are the files i'm trying to use in a different place?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777167/
[00:13] <Stalkr_> What's the easiest way to give me full FTP access to the whole system? I can only access my home directory right now, and can't even write to it, even though I have enabled write_enable=YES and local_enable=YES
[00:13] <Crazydog> damn you guys hate me
[00:13] <lickalott> Crazydog, no idea what is even going on there.  Can you give us some more detail?
[00:13] <Crazydog> Oh thanks :)
[00:14] <Crazydog> I'm trying to compile a program and i'm very new at this.  Heres what i'm trying to compile
[00:14] <lickalott> Stalkr_, are you using vsftpd?
[00:14] <px443> Stalkr_: do it over ssh instead, sftp etc  works a lot better
[00:14] <Stalkr_> lickalott: Yes
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: 1) why are you using ftp? 2) whay are you using ftp?
[00:14] <Stalkr_> Is FTP really that bad?
[00:14] <Crazydog> https://github.com/veox/sgminer
[00:14] <lickalott> yes
[00:14] <lickalott> easily exploitable
[00:14] <lickalott> ssh, scp, sftp ftw
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: very insecure. use sftp: install ssh and use key auth
[00:15] <Stalkr_> I have an FTP client, I just wanted to use that. It supports SFTP too, but I can't write at all, only read
[00:15] <mcristo> Hey guys.
[00:15] <jeffrey_f> stalkr: FTP is not secure.  sFTP is better.  FileZilla works quite well and Read/Write could be permissions
[00:15] <Crazydog> I think i got all the dependencies installed but libtool seems to be giving me problems.  when i attempt to autoreconf or automake its giving me missing /compact/Makefile.in file not found error.
[00:16] <px443> Stalkr_: you can change permissions with chmod
[00:16] <Stalkr_> I think my permissions are messed up, I have to do sudo for everything. I can't even mkdir
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: secondly. you shouldn't be blindly giving root access over sftp. upload you files to home and move then in place in a secure manner
[00:16] <lickalott> Crazydog, what I meant was more along of the lines of what were you doing when that error popped up?  (makefile, make, install, apt-get, etc...?)
[00:16] <nevyn> Stalkr_: where?
[00:16] <jeffrey_f> Stalkr: There's the problem.  You don't own the object if you did stuff under Sudo
[00:16] <Crazydog> automake and autoreconf give me that error.
[00:16] <ant_thomas> When attempting a netinstall/minimal install is it normal to have to wait ages to go from selecting the mirror to "loading additional components" I'm sure in the past this has been near enough instant but in all my recent 12.04 install it sits for a very long time. What is actually happening at this point?
[00:16] <arturo_> que pex
[00:16] <Stalkr_> nevyn: Where what?
[00:17] <lickalott> hrrmmm
[00:17] <nevyn> where are you trying to mkdir?
[00:17] <lickalott> sudo or no sudo?
[00:17] <Stalkr_> http://pastie.org/pastes/8646475/text
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: what exactly are you uploading? what is the end goal?
[00:18] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: Being able to upload stuff easily from my desktop to my server
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: WHATS THE OUTPUT OF:  ls -ld $HOME
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> woops sorry for caps
[00:18] <Stalkr_> drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jan 19 01:08 /home/iamstalkr
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: why does root own your home dir?
[00:19] <Stalkr_> I have no idea
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: whats the output of: id
[00:19] <Stalkr_> I just installed Ubuntu Server yesterday, tried to configure some web services I need to use, haven't really any idea what I have done so far
[00:19] <Stalkr_> uid=1000(iamstalkr) gid=1000(lauritz) groups=1000(iamstalkr),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),114(lpadmin),115(sambashare),116(debian-transmission)
[00:20] <Stalkr_> uid=1000(lauritz) gid=1000(lauritz) groups=1000(lauritz),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),114(lpadmin),115(sambashare),116(debian-transmission)*
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> so your $HOME is messed up and you gid
[00:20] <Crazydog> Any idea?
[00:20] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: Sorry, I changed lauritz to iamstalkr, it's supposed to be lauritz :-/
[00:21] <Guest5226> test
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: ok. its lauritz on the server? and the home is /home/lauritz ??
[00:21] <Stalkr_> Yes, sorry for messing it up
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: so its not that you tried to change your user name after the install?
[00:22] <Stalkr_> I used lauritz during the installation
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ok coool
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[00:23] <Crazydog> :(
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: that should fix the permissions
[00:23] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: drwxr-xr-x 16 lauritz lauritz 4096 Jan 19 01:08 /home/lauritz
[00:24] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, now I can mkdir without sudo
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: now. what exactly are you trying to upload to?
[00:24] <Stalkr_>  /var/www
[00:24] <smaudet> Stalkr_: wait, what?
[00:24] <Stalkr_> smaudet: ?
[00:24] <smaudet> mkdir doesn't require sudo, unless you don't have user rights
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: so, this is a home server or what?
[00:25] <Stalkr_> smaudet: I know, it was messed up. For some reason I had changed it to root
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: his $HOME was owned by root
[00:25] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: Yes, only I will basically be using it
[00:25] <smaudet> Stalkr_: sudo chown user:user home
[00:25] <Stalkr_> I might host some sites on it in the future
[00:25] <smaudet> Stalkr_: sudo chown -R user:user home
[00:25] <Stalkr_> smaudet: hitsujiTMO helped me fix it, it's working now
[00:25] <smaudet> where home and user are your home and user directory
[00:26] <tarien> hi everybody
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: right. ok, do you want to know the right way to do it? such as in a multi user environment. or do you want the easy way?
[00:26] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: Looks like it is working now, I have gained back permission, so I can use SFTP fine now
[00:26] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: The right way sounds good
[00:26] <tarien> my someone help me activate mysql for php in ubuntu 13.10?
[00:27] <tarien> *may ...
[00:27] <Stalkr_> Unless it's a lot of unnecessary configs
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: the norm is to create a group for those who are trusted to write to that dir: sudo groupadd www-adm
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: not a huge lot, but its good to know
[00:29] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: So if my friend wants to use a folder, I can give him write rights to that folder, by adding him to a group of www-useres?
[00:29] <Stalkr_> users*
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: yup
[00:30] <Stalkr_> Doesn't sound too bad. I have my own domain, would I be using virtual host to have a folder domain.com pointing to my domain?
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: then, the web root should be owned by that group: sudo chown -R root:www-adm /var/www
[00:32] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: I know how I get my domain to point to my IP, I have done that before. To tell the host, I will be using this folder (/var/www/domain) for this site, do I have to configure a virtual host?
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: next you want it to be group writable and, have the setgid bit set, so any files or folders created inherit the www-adm gid. sudo chmod -R g+ws /var/www
[00:33] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/domain.conf -- I believe that's the folder
[00:34] <Crazydog> MUAHAHHA
[00:34] <Crazydog> i figured it out and didnt need you guys :P
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: you configure a virtual host in the /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and then enable the virtual host with: sudo a2ensite domain
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: all you have to do now is add every user to the group: sudo adduser www-adm iamstalkr
[00:35] <DoverMo> Crazydog, ;c
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: that easy to do things the right way
[00:36] <Stalkr_> hitsujiTMO: I will give it a look tomorrow, it's pretty late here :-) Thanks for the help
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> Stalkr_: np
[00:40] <skinux> I'm trying to create a directory structure for scripts which are categorized by programming language. Would a proper structure be to locate them inside a directory named for their language and place symlinks to them in the 'root' scripts directory?
[00:42] <Crazydog> Ok so i got make install to kinda work, but getting error cannot create regular file '/usr/local/lib/libjansson.so blah blah' : Permission denied
[00:42] <rww> you probably want sudo make install
[00:42] <Crazydog> oh ya!
[00:42] <Crazydog> thanks
[00:42] <TJ-> I have a "dd if=/dev/mapper/VG-LV of=/dev/sdx7 bs=512M" operation running that is only getting 6MB/s. I'd expect an average above 35MB/s. The block devices are on different physical disks (if=LV->VG>sdi4) on separate interfaces. No errors in logs. Any ideas what I'm missing?
[00:43] <Crazydog> thanks bro that seemd to do it
[00:43] <skinux> Also, is there a way to allow being able to right-click app icons and select 'run as root' or similar?
[00:43] <Crazydog> I compiled my first source code!! Now how the hell do I run it?
[00:43] <Crazydog> ;)
[00:44] <geirha> skinux: A command is a command. It doesn't matter if it's a compiled binary, an sh script, a bash script, a perl script or a python script. A command is a command. So what's the point in this categorization?
[00:44] <milamber> Crazydog: what did you compile?
[00:44] <OerHeks> TJ-, maybe bs=4K speeds up
[00:44] <Crazydog> https://github.com/veox/sgminer
[00:44] <Crazydog> That
[00:45] <TJ-> OerHeks: usually I run at bs=1G but reduced it here to leave some memory free for other processes
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: OerHeks bs isn't even needed. any tests i've done showed fasted speed by omiting it
[00:46] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: all my tests show it being significantly faster with a larger buffer, up to 1G. Earlier it was doing 120MB/s ... not sure what its faffing about at now!
[00:46] <milamber> Crazydog: typically it is: sudo ldconfig  <then press enter> <then type the command name>
[00:46] <milamber> Crazydog: you should only  have to do the ldconfig thing one time
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: any activity on sdx other than the write?
[00:47] <milamber> Crazydog: and just to confirm, compiling was something like: configure, make, sudo make install?
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: could be the seek times killing you if there is
[00:47] <Crazydog> Ya, it was pretty easy. this time around.  I just deleted everything and started over
[00:48] <Crazydog> found the sgminer.exe seems to work too :)
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: well, same goes for source too i guess.
[00:50] <milamber> Crazydog: yeah . . . the .exe shouldn't work on linux unless it automatically opened in wine?
[00:50] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: could be I guess... I'm moving it from an LV to a raw partition to ensure, as far as possible, that the data is in contiguous blocks
[00:51] <Seppoz> in which file does ubuntu define lowlevel consols? like inittab file
[00:51] <Crazydog> Ok, next question I have is how do I take this compiled program to windows now?
[00:51] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: no other activity... freshly re-partitioned. moving data back onto it after reorganising the partitions
[00:51] <gogo_> hi
[00:52] <gogo_> can samone help me
[00:52] <gogo_> how to install driver
[00:52] <TJ-> Seppoz: Do you mean "/etc/init/tty*.conf" ?
[00:52] <milamber> Crazydog: it's not as easy as people make it out to be, but it starts with mingw packages, you can google for more info "cross compile mingw32"
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> !details | gogo_
[00:52] <Crazydog> ok thanks
[00:53] <gogo_> ubuntu 13.10
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> gogo_: what type of device is it?
[00:53] <gogo_> cen i post link hire
[00:54] <gogo_> ?
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> gogo_: seems english isn't your best language. whats your primary language?
[00:55] <gogo_> bosanski
[00:55] <gogo_> bosna i hercegovina
[00:55] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: haha!  got you there :)
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> damn, no dedicated channel.
[00:56] <Crazydog> Damn that looks tuff
[00:56] <TJ-> gogo_: tell us the name of the device ... manufacturer and model, and we'll try to help you
[00:56] <gogo_> http://shop.intos.de/cgi-bin/ieos/process/locale/en_US/page/33304.html
[00:56] <Crazydog> Damn that does look hard
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> do they even need drivers?
[00:57] <gogo_> driver for that
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> gogo_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:58] <TJ-> gogo_: Ubuntu should already have the driver ... when you plug the device in the driver should be loaded automatically. Try this: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and then plug the device in. You should kernel messages showing the device is recognised and configured to /dev/ttyUSB*
[01:04] <chigypt> Wammu has a problem with configuring phone
[01:05] <chigypt> Can I use wammu to send sms and calls using my modem?
[01:05] <gogo_> Jan 19 02:01:36 gogo kernel: [10351.621165] pl2303 2-1.1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
[01:05] <gogo_> Jan 19 02:01:36 gogo kernel: [10351.622993] usb 2-1.1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[01:05] <gogo_> its that good?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> yes: its good and working
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> /dev/ttyUSB0 is your serial device
[01:06] <gogo_> ok thenk u
[01:06] <gogo_> end woth COM it is?
[01:07] <chigypt> Can it detect automatically or do i have to do it manually?
[01:09] <neworder> I tried installing guest additions after installing Ubuntu
[01:09] <neworder> Now it doesn't load
[01:09] <neworder> What should I do?
[01:10] <milamber> neworder: virtualbox install?
[01:10] <neworder> milamber right
[01:10] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: that slow drive - just checked kern.log again and its full of errors... looks like when I checked the pending errors were being cached ... think I overheated it with the constant reading a while earlier :)
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ahh just your luck eh
[01:11] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: It's been one of those days!
[01:11] <milamber> neworder: you have to provide more details, "now it doesn't load" doesn't give anyone any actual information. what doesn't load? vbox or ubuntu? what is the host os? are you getting any error messages
[01:11] <neworder> Host OS is windows 8
[01:11] <neworder> I'm running Ubuntu
[01:11] <neworder> Virtualbox loads
[01:12] <neworder> But the Ubuntu doesn't load, it gets stuck on the screen
[01:12] <neworder> with the Ubuntu logo
[01:12] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: although I managed to hack my partner's PC's win7 registry to persuade it to boot again for the 1st time in 2 weeks, after moving the system partition between hard drives :)
[01:12] <neworder> No error messages
[01:12] <TJ-> neworder: can you press Escape and see messages
[01:12] <milamber> neworder: did you restart the hardware machine? ie the physical computer?
[01:13] <neworder> milamber : Nope, didn't restart the physical com
[01:13] <neworder> Should I
[01:13] <neworder> ?
[01:13] <neworder> I'll try restarting and get back =)
[01:13] <neworder> Thanks
[01:16] <Crazydog> Where would I put this info? or just type it in console?  #include <windows.h>
[01:16] <Crazydog> int APIENTRY WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance,
[01:16] <Crazydog>     LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow)
[01:16] <Crazydog> {
[01:16] <Crazydog>   MessageBox(NULL,
[01:16] <Crazydog>     "Cette fenêtre prouve que le cross-compilateur est fonctionnel !",
[01:16] <Crazydog>     "Hello World", MB_OK);
[01:16] <FloodBot1> Crazydog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <Crazydog> my bad
[01:18] <milamber> Crazydog: that looks like it would go in a c/c++ file, which is programming, and off-topic for this channel.
[01:18] <neworder> Tried restarting my physical machine and loaded Ubuntu
[01:19] <neworder> But it just gets stuck on the Ubuntu screen (with the logo)
[01:19] <neworder> No error messages
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> !text | neworder start with this
[01:20] <electricalanswer> I cant open synaptic package manager ? please help
[01:21] <electricalanswer> E: Malformed line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:22] <TJ-> electricalanswer: fix line 57 of "/etc/apt/sources.list" as it suggests
[01:23] <electricalanswer> im no expert
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <electricalanswer> okay
[01:23] <^Phantom^> so, if i install ubuntu to my 16gb flashdrive, NOTHING will be affected on my laptop?
[01:23] <^Phantom^> AT ALL?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> ^Phantom^: as long as you dont install the mbr to the wrong drive
[01:26] <neworder> hitsuiTMO
[01:26] <neworder> Sorry
[01:26] <neworder> I just entered the recovery mode
[01:26] <neworder> using the shift key
[01:27] <neworder> Is there anything else I should do now
[01:27] <neworder> I mean what should I do now? :P\
[01:27] <neworder> I'm repairing broken packages
[01:27] <neworder> hehe
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> neworder: did you not complete the install fully?
[01:29] <neworder> Immediately after I installed Ubuntu, I went on to install the guest addition
[01:29] <electricalanswer> okay it look pasted under my user name here
[01:29] <neworder> and then it got stuck towards the end of the guest addition installation
[01:29] <neworder> Then I resetted the virtrual machine
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> neworder: ahh. that would do it
[01:30] <neworder> and here I am, staring at the Ubuntu logo everytime I try to reset it
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: can you paste a link to it here please
[01:30] <electricalanswer> sorry
[01:30] <neworder> Anything I can do or should I just remove the VM and reinstall Ubuntu
[01:30] <electricalanswer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777582/plain/
[01:31] <quotemstr> How can I get Unity to stop auto-mounting *one specific* volume but still automount other?
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> boot with the text kernel param
[01:32] <electricalanswer> I wish I knew how
[01:32] <electricalanswer> i will look it up
[01:33] <ubuntu_user1234> hi, what is prefered cpu temp reader nowadays? still lm_sensors?
[01:33] <neworder> Anything I can do or should I just remove the VM and reinstall Ubuntu
[01:33] <FuuqUmiist> what does it mean when it says "Segmentation Fault" in the terminal?
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: repl\ce it with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777590/
[01:35] <FuuqUmiist> so does anyone know?
[01:35] <ubuntu_user1234> FuuqUmiist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
[01:36] <idaniel> Guys, I have a laptop with internet connection and Ubuntu 12.04 hooked up via an ethernet cord to a desktop that I just cleaned installed Ubuntu 12.04. It says there is a wired connection on the second one. BUT, I can't get on the internet on Firefox. I made my laptop "share" in the internet section. What am I doing wrong? I've looked on the Ubuntu sites too about it.
[01:36] <electricalanswer> okay
[01:37] <jeffrey_f> idaniel: explain how your network connections are from both systems
[01:39] <idaniel> o.k. My laptop is running on the internet just fine. I hooked up an ethernet cord to the desktop that had no connection to the internet. The desktop says I have connection but I can't get online. On the laptop with the connection, I went into the network section, edited it by hitting the wired one and making it share connection.
[01:40] <jeffrey_f> idaniel: network cable is directly from one system to the other?
[01:40] <idaniel> yes
[01:41] <jeffrey_f> That will not work that way.  You would need to plug both into a hub/switch.
[01:41] <idaniel> should the other system be set up a certain way in the network section?
[01:41] <Tex_Nick> idaniel: how is the laptop connected to the router ?
[01:42] <jeffrey_f> idaniel: two separate cables into a hub/switch
[01:42] <idaniel> ohhhh sorry, my husband needs the computer... gotta go... I'll ask later. sorry
[01:43] <TJ-> idaniel: if you're going to share a connection, it'd be the interface that connects to the Internet, not the one connecting to the other PC
[01:44] <TJ-> but can't remember seeing a 'share connection' action in the GUI, long time since I used 12.04
[01:45] <idaniel> o.k.  gotta go all of a sudden      I'll ask later
[01:46] <electricalanswer> I will have to get on another computer if I do this restart, is there another way. I pasted to pastbin as instructed by hitsujiTMO. If I need to restart let me know.
[01:48] <electricalanswer> I am waiting on hitsujiTMO
[01:50] <guzzlefry> hello
[01:50] <guzzlefry> I'm having trouble displaying this character: 界
[01:50] <daftykins> electricalanswer: no restart, just run "sudo apt-get update" - what were you doing, upgrading?
[01:51] <electricalanswer> waiting on you
[01:51] <TJ-> electricalanswer: If you've replaced "/etc/apt/sources.list" as hitsujiTMO recommended, now you need to do "sudo apt-get update"
[01:51] <electricalanswer> I will run right now
[01:53] <electricalanswer> you wanted me replace my source list?  I think I uploaded my again thinking you need me to upload a second time. Can you upload again your recommended source list and I will replace as instructed?
[01:54] <TJ-> electricalanswer:  <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: replace it with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777590/
[01:57] <gogo_> halp
[01:58] <gogo_> fausto works fine in linux over wine but how to use card over ttyS or ttyUSB menu shows as comports card dont detect in linux fausto over wine
[01:59] <TJ-> gogo_: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=714390
[01:59] <electricalanswer> sorry my wife cut the breaker off
[02:00] <gogo_> i haw
[02:00] <gogo_> not work
[02:00] <TJ-> electricalanswer: ironic :)
[02:01] <gogo_> can u halp me
[02:01] <neworder> Is Linux much more compatible with VirtualBox than Ubuntu
[02:01] <neworder> Or are both just the same
[02:01] <electricalanswer> let me look up how to replace my sources and I will get back to you
[02:01] <TJ-> gogo_: see this. Be sure to take the advice to check that the user has read/write access to the /dev/ttyUSB0 node. http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/misc-things-to-configure#AEN715
[02:06] <The_Alpha_Omega> hey all, I have a 333mhz processor with 128MB of ram. I need recommendations for a supported server edition of ubuntu.
[02:06] <gogo_> [sudo] password for gogo:
[02:06] <gogo_> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘lpt1’: File exists
[02:06] <gogo_> gogo@gogo:~$ sudo ln -s /dev/ttyS0 com1
[02:06] <gogo_> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘com1’: File exists
[02:06] <gogo_> gogo@gogo:~$
[02:06] <FloodBot1> gogo_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <gogo_> sory
[02:08] <gogo_> i don know how tu do that
[02:08] <gmachine_24> gogo_: follow floodbot1's commands
[02:09] <TJ-> electricalanswer: here's a script to download that text and put it into the file automatically for you...
[02:10] <gmachine_24> The_Alpha_Omega: I don't know but maybe try lubuntu server - lubuntu is lite
[02:11] <The_Alpha_Omega> thanks gmachine_24
[02:12] <gmachine_24> The_Alpha_Omega: http://lubuntu.net/
[02:12] <jeffrey_f> The_Alpha_Omega: Is that a Pentium II?
[02:13] <The_Alpha_Omega> yep!
[02:13] <daftykins> PII? ouch
[02:13] <daftykins> The_Alpha_Omega: that's really barely enough RAM for a server install to do much beyond run IRC :P
[02:13] <gogo_> imali netko da prica jugoslovenski
[02:13] <The_Alpha_Omega> It's a discarded server from late last century. Built to run so I've kept it around.
[02:13] <gogo_> ?
[02:14] <gmachine_24> The_Alpha_Omega: this makes it even lighter and you can add only what you need http://www.tinycorelinux.net/
[02:14] <jeffrey_f> The_Alpha_Omega:: Not sure if it will even give you enough spit to run any services.
[02:14] <The_Alpha_Omega> sounds like archlinux
[02:15] <ajbrandt1> maybe the wrong forum for this, but I'm wanting to build an ubuntu server and run Elastix in a VM. Possible? Worth it?
[02:15] <jeffrey_f> he_Alpha_Omega:  http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/238421-50-linux-pentium
[02:15] <The_Alpha_Omega> we'll see how it goes. running 6.06 right now, does everything I want it to...just lacks the support
[02:16] <The_Alpha_Omega> thanks jeffrey_f: you're a goldmine
[02:17] <gmachine_24> Can someone point gogo to the Yugoslavian Ubuntu site
[02:17] <jeffrey_f> he_Alpha_Omega: Once up, slim it down by shutting off unnecessary services and turn on only what is needed
[02:17] <gmachine_24> please
[02:19] <gmachine_24> The_Alpha_Omega: I was running a server with an Athlon CPU but the drives got too small and I just built a new box for $350 and bc I haven't had a new desktop for years it seems insnely fast; I'm just sayin'. . .
[02:20] <electricalanswer> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report. did not work
[02:20] <The_Alpha_Omega> For the most part I'm just testing networking equipment with a stuborn streak. I like the sound of a new desktop...it sounds dreamy...
[02:20] <TJ-> electricalanswer: hang on I see his error! I'll fix it for you
[02:21] <TJ-> electricalanswer: see my new private message for how to download and install it
[02:21] <gmachine_24> The_Alpha_Omega: it's running the latest ubuntu server and has minimal software; I didn't need the speed I bought but it was so cheap.... $55 each for the cpu and mb on sale... I figured what the heck it wil last for years and years
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: sed -i 's/http;/http:/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <The_Alpha_Omega> not a bad deal at all!
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> electricalanswer: sorry i missed that one earlier
[02:22] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: I gave him privately: wget -qO - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6777721 | awk 'BEGIN{p=0}/<\/pre>/&&p==2{p--}/<pre>/{p++;sub("^.*<pre>","",$0);}p==2{print $0}' | sudo dd of=/etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <gmachine_24> does anyone know if ubuntu (or anyone) has a project to help all the winXP users whose support is ending to migrate to Ubuntu?? This would be a nice project.
[02:23] <ajbrandt1> nothing like beer and the #ubuntu channel on a saturday night
[02:23] <electricalanswer> good job, it worked!
[02:23] <gmachine_24> ajbrandt1: except in colorado :-)
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i suppose that works too
[02:24] <electricalanswer> yeah it good
[02:24] <ajbrandt1> oh yes. you guys have something a bit better in CO
[02:27] <arunya> hi
[02:27] <arunya> hi rootkat
[02:28] <jeffrey_f> he_Alpha_Omega: Should look into Rasberry Pi.  $25.
[02:29] <The_Alpha_Omega> I have a pi, but the pi has a date with the arduino
[02:30] <The_Alpha_Omega> jeffrey_f: is lubuntu terminal?
[02:33] <jeffrey_f> The_Alpha_Omega: uses LXDE
[02:33] <The_Alpha_Omega> ahh
[02:36] <jeffrey_f> gmachine_24:  If somehow we could get it as close to XP as possible, we'd have a winner.  Then re-educating that It isn't windows and most windows software won't work even with emulation.   95% would be education
[02:38] <gmachine_24> jeffrey_f: yeah.... but you have people who cannot afford a new computer and if they get a new(er) computer they will likely new new versions of all their favorite programs - so you're talking major money.
[02:38] <jeffrey_f> The biggest thing is no itunes....that would throw most people off of Linux of any flavor.  Example: my girlfriend....Liked it, but couldn't figure out *no itunes* thing
[02:38] <gmachine_24> *need
[02:38] <gmachine_24> jeffrey_f: and here I thought no itunes was a plus
[02:39] <The_Alpha_Omega> ^
[02:39] <jeffrey_f> gmachine_24:  Last time I *TRIED* iTunes, Itunes decided to remove all of my music.  Never again.
[02:41] <jeffrey_f> gmachine_24:  Amarok or Rhythmbox, I'm happy
[02:41] <gmachine_24> jeffrey_f: I had it installed once so I could download the "free" itunes songs given away with/by starbucks; that novelty wore off quickly
[02:42] <gmachine_24> jeffrey_f: I ran slimserver forever and then, sadly, logitech reared its ugly head ...... but I still have a squeezebox so . . .
[02:46] <profligacy> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=8ewuuomdoms7
[02:46] <profligacy> soryy this is the wrong channel
[02:46] <profligacy> if anyone wants to race join though
[02:47] <rww> it is, try #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of thing :)
[02:59] <w243525345353645> hello, on ubuntu 12.04 gnome trying to set a default application for file type swf, open with does not give me the option of opening with the flash projector, this should be easy but it is not working :(
[02:59] <w243525345353645> so question = how to set a default application ?
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> flash isn't an application, its a plugin, so try opening it with a browser  maybe
[03:01] <w243525345353645> hitsujiTMO, thanks man, but i downloaded the linux standalone executable from Adobe
[03:02] <w243525345353645> and it works perfectly, except it is not the default app
[03:02] <w243525345353645> and swfs always try to open with movie player
[03:02] <w243525345353645> which i want to change, it looks like ubuntu have removed the option as i recall it used to be possible to browse for an application -
[03:08] <w243525345353645> phew i found it :)
[03:19]  * jeffrey_f keeps thinking I lost connection when chat goes silent for a while
[03:21] <raub> Who creates /var/empty?
[03:21] <daftykins> jeffrey_f: turn joins and parts back on ;D
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> raub: dpkg -S /var/empty
[03:22] <jeffrey_f> I have join/parts off because there are too many....hence silence.
[03:23] <raub> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[03:24] <daftykins> jeffrey_f: yep hence my use of the word 'back'
[03:27] <raub> hitsujiTMO: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /var/empty.
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> raub: must have been made by a post install script or a person then
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> hard to track that one down :(
[03:32] <raub> hitsujiTMO: sshd, at least from source, seems to want it for chroot jail
[03:32] <raub> I noticed centos has it but I can't see it in any of my ubuntu installs (12.04 and 13.X)
[03:34] <jeffrey_f> I see references to /var/empty by sshd when googling
[03:37] <alex___> Has anyone seen the fifth estate yet?
[03:38] <kcdehimposter> Question: I have wine installed, but I want to run Steam natively, how do I do that?
[03:38] <alex___> Anyone here?
[03:39] <kcdehimposter> Yeah, waiting to see if anybody can answer my question :(
[03:39] <alex___> What's up?
[03:39] <kcdehimposter> Question: I have wine installed, but I want to run Steam natively, how do I do that?
[03:39] <alex___> Im not the best but we will see
[03:39] <alex___> Running steam natively?
[03:39] <kcdehimposter> Yeah, or how do I uninstall wine fully?
[03:39] <kcdehimposter> I tried uninstalling it, but it was like nope, I stay
[03:40] <alex___> you should be able to just have both versions installed
[03:40] <alex___> As long as the wine version and the linux version are not signed in at the same time
[03:40] <kcdehimposter> Wait is there 2 different applications of Steam?
[03:40] <alex___> Yeah there is a linux client.
[03:41] <alex___> Just look for it in the software center.
[03:41] <kcdehimposter> I must've deleted it a month ago, let me try that out.
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> or download it from steampowered.com
[03:44] <kcdehimposter> Thanks man it worked!~
[03:46] <sam___> I installed a package with this command: ./setup.py install     how do I uninstall it? it didn't work now I want to remove it but I don't know how
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: did you do it with sudo?
[03:48] <sam___> yes I did use root (sudo)
[03:48] <sam___> sudo ./setup.py install
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: is the app listed in: pip list
[03:50] <sam___> so I should install python-pip to uninstall a python package?
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: its its a compatible setup script then it my be removable with pip
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: what app was it?
[03:51] <sam___> setoolkit
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: seems to be compatible. try installing pip and see if this works: sudo pip uninstall setoolkit
[03:55] <notmyhostname> help
[03:55] <maah> @irc.rizon
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: at least you can always uninstall pip
[03:57] <sam___> I installed pip but I think sudo pip uninstall setoolkit is wrong. this isn't package name
[03:57] <sam___> is there any way to see the list of installed python packages
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> sam___ pip list
[04:00] <neworder> Hi Guys
[04:00] <neworder> I freshly installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox
[04:00] <neworder> I also installed the guest additions
[04:01] <neworder> I tried clicking on the home folder and it was taking a few seconds to load
[04:01] <neworder> How do I gauge whether it's fast or not
[04:01] <neworder> Any Ideas?
[04:01] <sam___> Usage: pip COMMAND [OPTIONS]  pip: error: No command by the name pip list   (maybe you meant "pip install list") sam@sam:~$
[04:01] <neworder> I tried typing on the terminal on Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to lag
[04:01] <wachpwnski> any reason I wouldn't be able to ping outside lan with one of my boxes randomly?
[04:01] <sam___> that command didn't work :(
[04:04] <hitsujiTMO> sam___: you got a pip < 1.2.1?
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> pip -V
[04:05] <OerHeks> sam___, pip freeze will output a list of installed packages and their versions.
[04:09] <sam___> its weird I uninstalled with pip but still the software works
[04:10] <sam___> sudo pip uninstall CherryTree
[04:12] <sam___> and pip freeze doesn't show setoolkit
[04:14] <hitsujiTMO> :( you'll have to follow the setup script and remove manually then i guess
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[04:22] <koku> hilight_nick_matches = ON
[04:22] <koku> quit
[04:22] <xangua> !away > IBEGONE
[04:24] <shrimpdaddy> Help
[04:26] <chare> I had a loss of power while installing a package now when I try to reinstall it I get this error http://pastebin.com/GfU82kKT
[04:26] <chare> and package manager is dead
[04:26] <chare> how do I recover
[04:27] <Snake2k> *Gasps* https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/daru4
[04:27] <Snake2k> Has anyone ever used those laptops?
[04:28] <CJD_> package mMa
[04:28] <CJD_> manager is deadh
[04:28] <CJD_> how
[04:29] <CJD_> package manager is dead how i meant
[04:34] <natas> i am having trouble installing teamviewer's latest version on ubuntu 13.10, but i get a dependency error for lib32asound2, i tried debi, no luck, tried manually getting the package, no luck?
[04:34] <evon> For some reason MPG 4 videos play choppy on my computer.  I've read that this could be due to slow hardware but my hardware is pretty good I believe (2.8ghz 6core AMD chip, 6gigs of ram, solid state drive, Nvidia GTX460)
[04:35] <hitsujiTMO> natas: sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386
[04:36] <Tex_Nick> evon: have you tried playing it with VLC ?
[04:36] <evon> Tex_Nick, yes same prob
[04:36] <evon> natas, that's a known error. don't install the x64 bit version
[04:37] <natas> that's the advice i keep getting
[04:37] <natas> but at the same time, i have seen people fix it
[04:37] <natas> in fact, someone fixed it with gdebi
[04:37] <jerry_> ;)
[04:37] <evon> natas, i didn't bother fixing it.  I just installed the other version. didn't see that advantage in getting the 64bit
[04:38] <Ben64> evon: try mplayer2
[04:38] <natas> it's the principle of it, rofl
[04:38] <natas> but yea, in the end, need to work
[04:38] <Ben64> natas: why not use something native, like vnc?
[04:38] <natas> because we always use teamviewer, because it works great
[04:39] <evon> ben54, installing now
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> natas: this seems to be a proposed package http://launchpadlibrarian.net/139194357/lib32asound2_1.0.25-4ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[04:40] <evon> ben64 I don't know how to use a terminal-based player
[04:40] <Ben64> evon: "mplayer /path/to/video"
[04:41] <Ben64> evon: if you pastebin all the stuff that it prints out, i can try to figure out why its choppy for you
[04:41] <evon> ben64 just found a gui front-end for it
[04:41] <Ben64> evon: this is to help diagnose :) you can use that if you want afterwards
[04:42] <evon> ben64 mplayer2 is working thus far with the front-end
[04:42] <Ben64> not choppy?
[04:43] <evon> Ben64, not at all. you da man
[04:43] <evon> Ben64, audio out of sync majorly though
[04:43] <Ben64> could be the file
[04:44] <Tex_Nick> evon: my experience with that issue would be that, the video is encoded in a rather aggressive manner (x264) ... graphics chipset is of utmost importance there though
[04:44] <evon> ben64, tex_nick anyway to fix that?
[04:45] <Ben64> mplayer uses vdpau, so it hardware accelerates x264 and other mpeg4 video files
[04:45] <Ben64> if you pastebin the output from watching the video on command line version, it'd be helpful
[04:46] <evon> ben64, running in the commandline version now. 1 sec
[04:48] <evon> ben64, http://pastebin.com/YUbnrE3U
[04:48] <koku> i can't install turpial from ubuntu 13.10 software center
[04:50] <Tex_Nick> evon: how did the video look when playing from command line ? as your pastebin ?
[04:51] <evon> Tex_Nick, the video looked fine.  just the audio was out of sync
[04:51] <evon> Tex_Nick, nothing was choppy at all
[04:52] <Ben64> try "mplayer -ao alsa /blah/blah/movie.avi" on the command line
[04:52] <Bitwise> Hello. On Windows when I ping a host that is down it says "Request timed out" but on Ubuntu it just doesn't say anything at all. I tried -v for verbose mode. Is there a way to get it to say "Request timed out"
[04:52] <Ben64> i always have problems with pulseaudio
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: should come up with Destination Host Unreachable
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> evon: looks to me to be a torrent file ... that can happen with pirated vids
[04:54] <shaft0> Can someone help me debug why all of a sudden my Ubuntu 12.04.03 VPS is saying no network interfaces are installed?
[04:54] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, It's not saying anything except when a response is received.
[04:54] <evon> tex_nick understood
[04:55] <evon> Ben64, same issue
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: is the target on another subnet?
[04:57] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, The targets aren't my my subnet right now.
[04:57] <Bitwise> on my*
[04:58] <Ben64> you can do "ping -i 1 -f 1.2.3.4"
[04:58] <Ben64> the more dots, the more lost packets
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: i see, its not timing out. you need to set a tty with -t: such as: ping 192.168.5.10 -t 15
[04:59] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, That will wait 15 seconds before ping decides the target is not going to respond?
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO>  wait tty is no good
[05:01] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, I think -W is what I'm looking for you.
[05:01] <Bitwise> for*
[05:03] <icloud> PATHS="/usr/lib/transcode /usr/local/lib/transcode $HOME/lib/transcode"
[05:03] <icloud> for D in $PATHS; do
[05:04] <icloud> this loop stops after the first dir, how do i change it into a list for the loop?
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: seems its not being verbose at all for a timeout. maybe cap the count instead
[05:04] <icloud> i am trying to install deshake for transcode, the install script that came with it did not work
[05:04] <Bitwise> hitsujiTMO, The count is 1
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: just seems to have a long timeout with c1
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: is this part of a script?
[05:06] <Bitwise> Yes.
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> Bitwise: might have to parse the stats if no output
[05:08] <Bitwise> I only need to wait about 5k ms
[05:08] <Bitwise> I need it to say Request timed out after those 5 seconds if no response.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a tool that can email me current ip adress every boot
[05:11] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Why not just use a service like dyndns?
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: http://freedns.afraid.org/ not good enough?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: well im actually trying to replace an anti theft package, so it needs to email me at boot, before login process
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> if thats possible
[05:12] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: What is the end goal here?
[05:12] <raj1991raj> is there any other way of updating the cache instead of downloading it from software center, i am using mint 12.0 and it taked too much long time to update the cache when i tried using the universe source in software centre
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: when the thief steals a laptop, it would email me the ip location
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !mint|raj1991raj,
[05:14] <raj1991raj> cfhowlett: what is meant by not supported derivated.
[05:14] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Using what internet connection?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: ive tested the package 'prey' but i dont like its online management
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: wget -qO- icanhazip.com
[05:14] <cfhowlett> raj1991raj, it means this is ubuntu support.  mint is not ubuntu.  for mint help go the mint channels.
[05:14] <raj1991raj> cfhowlett: do you mean that i can not update it
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: oh right, it cant connect unless someone logisn right..hm
[05:15] <raj1991raj> cfhowlett: k
[05:15] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: only issue is that the wifi would have to be up, before the login for what you're asking. maybe a cron instead?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: but if the thief cant enter ubuntu desktop..he will format the machine instead
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> maybe a guest account could help me then
[05:19] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: I think your energy would probably be more productively spent preventing your laptop from being stolen in the first place.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: well alot of bulgarian burglers are in our region these days, my ubuntu netbook rests on table every night so..
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> easy grabbin
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ill stick to prey and guest account for now
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[05:21] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, a windows98 license sticker works better
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[05:22] <Bitwise> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to have ping or fping print "Request timed out" after so many seconds?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Bitwise: maybe try nmap or etherape, to see whats going on
[05:23] <OerHeks> Bitwise, after 1500 ms it should say something = 1.5 sec
[05:24] <Bitwise> OerHeks, I would expect that too but it doesn't. :\
[05:25] <newyear> \quit
[05:27] <sethj_> Forward slash ;)
[05:39] <sethj> Bitwise, what are you trying to do?
[05:40] <Bitwise> sethj, I'm trying to ping my hosts but it doesn't say "Request timed out" after a second.
[05:41] <yos87> hi
[05:41] <ihavenonick> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS to replace WinXP, and I'm having trouble with my video
[05:41] <shaft0> I'm completely unable to change my locale.  I type "update-locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8" and then "locale" and everything is "POSIX", can anyone give me a hand
[05:42] <yos87> I'm having problem with xrdp, when I try to login from mstsc , i getting blank desktop screen of ubuntu , so anyone can help ?
[05:42] <Piranah420> ihavenonick nvdia ?
[05:42] <sethj_> Bitwise it exits quietly?
[05:42] <ihavenonick> ati hd eah 5450; when i play videos, everything is slow and laggy
[05:42] <Piranah420> ihavenonick using VLC ?
[05:43] <ihavenonick> i tried using "additional hardware" to find drivers, and I tried installing a proprietary driver through that, but I get "installed but not active"
[05:43] <ihavenonick> Piranah420: same with vlc, the default movie player, even youtube videos
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !ati | ihavenonick
[05:43] <ihavenonick> anyway, i ended up downloading the driver manually from AMD, and i followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[05:43] <Bitwise> No sethj_
[05:44] <Piranah420> ihavenonick I have not ran ATI in ages :( Sorry wish I could help. Perhaps someone else on #Ubuntu can offer some help ?
[05:44] <ihavenonick> after I installed that driver, it worked great - videos are just as fast as XP again
[05:44] <ihavenonick> but then after like running for a while, it suddenly gets laggy again
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: did you recently update your system?
[05:44] <ihavenonick> it's like it suddenly stopped using the hardware to do graphics acceleration, and switched back to software or something
[05:45] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: nope, it's a fresh ubuntu install
[05:45] <Piranah420> 13 or 12 ?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: did you setup with an internet connection?
[05:45] <ihavenonick> Piranah420: 12.04 LTS
[05:45] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: i ran the installation while connected to the internet, yes
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: enabled download updates during setup/third party software?
[05:46] <ihavenonick> i just can't understand why video works great after i do a reboot, but then suddenly starts lagging again
[05:46] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: yup, i've installed updates
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: lshw -C video and paste whats next to driver= plz
[05:47] <Piranah420> Not sure on ATI but NVIDIA once I loaded the 3rd party option there was like 8 versions of the video driver that was avail
[05:47] <Piranah420> and i jyst meen 3rd party for the package manager
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: doublecheck if you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras also
[05:47] <Piranah420> ^
[05:48] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: how do i check if that's installed?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:49] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: lshw -C video: http://pastebin.com/WcdC654u
[05:49] <Piranah420> http://www.ubuntulinuxguide.com/proprietarydrivers.htm
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: driver=fglrx_pci maybe radeon driver might work better for you? test a few out from additional drivers section
[05:51] <ihavenonick> Piranah420: i tried installing a proprietary driver the way that link suggests, but additional hardware just installs the driver and then says "installed but not active"
[05:51] <Xuisce_> Hello
[05:51] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: I'm installing ubuntu-restricted-extras now; how do i select the other radeon drivers?
[05:52] <Piranah420> Just click om it!
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: try a reboot now, and check additional driver section again
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> click a driver and activate yes
[05:52] <Piranah420> then reboot
[05:53] <Piranah420> I have the clasic underscan nvidia issue and resolved tonight Ubuntu 13 by doing just that.
[05:53] <Piranah420> Click reboot and solved
[05:54] <ihavenonick> i tried that several times, but now that i've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, let me take a look at additional drivers again and i'll try a reboot as well
[05:54] <Piranah420> :)
[05:55] <sethj_> Piranah420 what nvidia driver are you using now
[05:55] <ihavenonick> "searching for available drivers" takes forever =)
[05:56] <ihavenonick> ok, i don't see anything different from before, just 2 ati/amd proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers: experimental beta, and post-release updates
[05:56] <ihavenonick> i tried activating them both  before, but after a reboot all it says it "installed by not activated", and I can't see to activate it
[05:56] <sethj> ihavenonick have you tried both?
[05:56] <ihavenonick> sethj: yup, i could not activate neither
[05:57] <ihavenonick> that's why i had to manually install it using instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[05:57] <ihavenonick> (and now that i did, neither of the drivers under "additional drivers" are installed
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: what does lshw -C video say now next to driver=
[06:00] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: i hadn't installed a different driver through "additional drivers", and so i haven't rebooted, and so lshw -C video still says the same thing
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: try disable all graphics drivers and reboot, then lshw again see what module it loeds
[06:01] <rww> .
[06:01] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: how do i disable all graphics drivers?
[06:02] <kanishka> hi
[06:02] <kanishka> i installed xampp  just now
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick: just disable the green button
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> elky: tnx
[06:02] <kanishka> i got the error like:
[06:02] <rww> ubottu: xampp | kanishka
[06:02] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: i have no green buttons under "additional drivers"
[06:02] <kanishka> thanx
[06:02] <cfhowlett> ihavenonick, if it's only video that is struggling, I'd suggest that either you've got the wrong graphic driver or your GPU is over-taxed.  Assuming you're on unity, install a lighter desktop, e.g. xfce4 or lxde and then try your video again
[06:03] <elky> lotuspsychje: next time mangle the url so they don't get bonus google exposure from our logs :)
[06:03] <ihavenonick> cfhowlett: but video is great after i reboot, it just starts lagging after a while; also, it was never this bad on windows xp
[06:03] <elky> lotuspsychje: thanks though :)
[06:04] <ihavenonick> cfhowlett: i could watch hd videos full screen with no problem, now i can't (after the video starts lagging - it's fine after a fresh reboot before the lagging kicks in)
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> elky: whats mangle mean?
[06:04] <phuh> what should we ubuntu lovers say to those that say fedora or debian are better than ubuntu?
[06:04] <dash09> hi, i can't find answer by internet search so.. each time i click on "Dash Home" for USER_1 my Dash and Menu Bar turn into yellow blocks, loss of text, lines like a static television channel, for USER_2, no trouble. how do i figure out differences and make USER_1's settings like USER_2's?
[06:05] <elky> lotuspsychje: change it in some way so it won't work
[06:05] <dash09> i have reset ubuntu unity plugin in ccsm numerous times, even tried unity --reset. not working
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> elky: ok roger
[06:09] <dash09> should i try something like this? mkdir ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.gnome* ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.gconf* ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.metacity ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.cache ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.dbus ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.dmrc ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.mission-control ~/.old-gnome-config/ && mv ~/.thumbnails ~/.old-gnome-config/   && ~/.config/dconf/* ~/.old-gnome-config/
[06:09] <dash09> just to reset things for USER_1's setup?
[06:16] <ihavenonick_> i just reboot again, and my video works great again without actually changing the drivers in any way
[06:17] <ihavenonick_> is there some diagnostic i can look at to compare how things look when they're good, vs. how things look when they're bad?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick_: lshw -C video shows another driver= now?
[06:22] <ihavenonick_> lotuspsychje: lshw is still giving the same output
[06:22] <ihavenonick_> however, i think i managed to reproduce the problem
[06:22] <ihavenonick_> everything was fine until i went to the dash, and the transparent window came up
[06:23] <ihavenonick_> is it possible that the transparency pushed the hardware acceleration  too far, and ubuntu switches to software acceleration at the lost of poorer performance?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick_: try disable background blur in ccsm/unity plugin
[06:24] <ihavenonick_> lotuspsychje: is the ccsm/unity plugin something i can download through the software center?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick_: yes search for compizconfig settings manager
[06:25] <Raymondo> hey. I was plugging in a new display and I managed to screw up my graphics drivers somehow (ati catalyst). booted into a blank desktop. I got nautilus to run so in theory I can switch drivers back to xorg default - problem is that all options except 'manually installed' are greyed out
[06:26] <ihavenonick_> lotuspsychje: is it actually called "background blur"? i'm not sure what i'm looking for here
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> active blur or something
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> ihavenonick_: and set to 'no blur'
[06:28] <Raymondo> this is the advice I was following so far: http://askubuntu.com/a/363238
[06:29] <Raymondo> is there a command line method to switch to default gfx drivers?
[06:29] <ihavenonick_> lotuspsychje: alright, i went to advanced preferences and filtered for "blur", there's "KDE Compatibility" plugin with a "Support Blur Effect", and I unchecked that
[06:30] <ihavenonick_> lotuspsychje: and there is a "Ubuntu Unity Plugin", and under Experimental, there's a "Dash Blur" that i can select "Active Blur", "Static Blur" , and "No Blur"
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> no blur yes
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> thats the1
[06:30] <ihavenonick_> I set it to "No Blur", i guess I'll reboot and try to reproduce the problem again...thanks
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> ok good luck
[06:33] <Raymondo> hey. I was plugging in a new display and I managed to screw up my graphics drivers somehow (ati catalyst). booted into a blank desktop. I got nautilus to run so in theory I can switch drivers back to xorg default - problem is that all options except 'manually installed' are greyed out
[06:37] <tripelb> Raymondo: does ot work with liveCD?
[06:37] <tripelb> <<< basic simple thinker
[06:39] <Raymondo> that would take a fair bit of work to determine
[06:39] <Raymondo> how would it help?
[06:45] <ihavenonick> lotuspsychje: well, it's better now without the blur effect; SD videos play fine (and I like the UI much more without the blur anyway); i manage to kill my ability to watch HD videos by playing 3 videos at once, that seemed to push it over, and now my HD videos will be laggy until i reboot again
[06:46] <mikodo> rsync ... transferred encrypted files (bcrypt) with the perms perserved, would they on the destination, be opened similarly, to how originally?
[06:47] <Haymaker> just installed ubuntu 12.04 got all updated /upgrades but still getting crashes
[06:49] <khs> hi
[06:49] <root_teacher> hi guys!
[06:49] <root_1212> asd
[06:49] <kanginchan> wow
[06:49] <root_1212> ¾î¸®¼®Àº ´×°ÕµéÀÌ¿©
[06:49] <root_manana48> hi
[06:50] <root_1212> dsa
[06:50] <root_808> hey,guy say something
[06:50] <elky> root_teacher: this is not a playground. please take your class to a channel of your own. You can start channels adhoc on freenode.
[06:51] <root_1212> where are you from
[06:51] <Haymaker> hi all my computer freezes a lot after ubuntu 12.04 install. any solution?
[06:51] <root_1212> from
[06:51] <root_190> 1
[06:51] <root_808> i am from south korea
[06:51] <cfhowlett> !ops| root*
[06:51] <rww> cfhowlett: they're already on it
[06:51] <elky> cfhowlett: hi
[06:51] <root_1212> i from korea
[06:51] <cfhowlett> elky, greetings
[06:52] <Haymaker> can someone help me please?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> Haymaker, what are your specs?
[06:52] <Haymaker> cfhowlett : 500 gb 4 gm ram 2.2 ghz
[06:52] <elky> root_teacher: I'll start removing your class from this channel if you do not relocate.
[06:53] <yuricoco> hello
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Haymaker, and this is a new install?
[06:53] <Haymaker> yes
[06:53] <elky> yuricoco: is this your botnet?
[06:53] <root_si> hi
[06:53] <root_808> hi there
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Haymaker, what are you doing when the system freezes?
[06:54] <Haymaker> cfhowlett nothing special ...just browsing net couple windows open
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Haymaker, firefox?
[06:55] <elky> yuricoco: root_teacher, or whichever of you are the sentient being. You are now banned from here. Find your own channel to play in. Discuss the ban only in #ubuntu-ops
[06:55] <Haymaker> cfhowlett yes
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Haymaker, try this: install chromium and see if the problem repeats.  might be browser specific
[06:55] <Haymaker> cghowlett it froze like 5 times in one houre
[06:56] <Haymaker> cfhowlett ok i'll try that ..thanks for your time and help
[07:04] <XingMing> HI #ubuntu how install openJDK ?? i use ubuntu 9.04
[07:04] <rww> sudo apt-get install default-jre
[07:04] <bazhang> XingMing, 9.04 is not supported any longer
[07:04] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | XingMing
[07:05] <XingMing> what mean?? i use for 4 year
[07:05] <cfhowlett> XingMing, WAY old technology!  time to upgrade!  I recommend 12.04 LongTermSupport for xubuntu or lubuntu
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !cn
[07:05] <bazhang> XingMing, it means you need to get a supported version. read the link above
[07:05] <shiestie_> XingMing he means Ubuntu 9.04 is very outdated..
[07:06] <XingMing> but i use not problem
[07:06] <XingMing> i just want openjdl
[07:06] <XingMing> openjdk
[07:06] <cfhowlett> XingMing,  need to get 12.04 so you can install openjdk
[07:06] <XingMing> no internet
[07:06] <XingMing> only offline use
[07:07] <bazhang> XingMing, how are you on now
[07:07] <cfhowlett> XingMing, you're on internet now.  use torrent.
[07:07] <rww> IP over Avian Carrier
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !ubuntukylin
[07:07] <shiestie> XingMing your on IRC you got the internet
[07:07] <XingMing> now i use ubuntu 12.04
[07:07] <XingMing> but want openjdk other laptop
[07:07] <XingMing> other laptop 9.04
[07:07] <cfhowlett> XingMing, no.  9.04 is dead.
[07:07] <cfhowlett> XingMing, http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[07:08] <XingMing> give me how to install openjdk 9.04
[07:08] <shiestie> oh well download 12.04 ISO and install via usbdrive
[07:08] <XingMing> i read
[07:08] <cfhowlett> XingMing, no openjdk for 9.04.  install a ubuntukylin then openjdk
[07:08] <shiestie> XingMing.. you need internet access to get packages
[07:08] <XingMing> i can download here
[07:08] <cfhowlett> shiestie, strictly speaking, not true, but he DOES need a supported version
[07:08] <XingMing> i want install there
[07:09] <phuh> XingMing: how's china?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> XingMing, can't help.  9.04 no longer supported.  sorry.
[07:09] <bagusaji> hello, how to make my folder accessed from nautilus left side, like Downloads, Documents, etc.
[07:10] <rww> !ubuntukylin | cfhowlett
[07:10] <rww> (I made a thing.)
[07:11] <kendrick_> Hey how do I get my windows 8 PC to load an Ubuntu cd on startup?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> rww, factoid?  nice!
[07:11] <XingMing> can change user password to chinese character
[07:12] <cfhowlett> XingMing, install language support for chinese
[07:12] <shiestie> kendrick_ need to tell bios to boot from cd not harddrive
[07:12] <cfhowlett> shiestie, bios?  or efi?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[07:12] <XingMing> thank i install openjdk in 9.04 now
[07:16] <kendrick_> shiestie: I've done that still not working.
[07:17] <cfhowlett> rww, change one world of the factoid?  "official" not "formal"
[07:17] <kendrick_>  
[07:18] <rww> cfhowlett: "formal" was in the relevant wiki and website pages, hence that wording
[07:18] <rww> not sure what exactly they mean by it
[07:19] <cfhowlett> rww, hmm.  OK.  As I don't yet speak Mandarin, I'm uncertain that the intended meaning is conveyed but ... leave it to the experts!
[07:19] <cfhowlett> rww, and thanks for the factoid!  finally!
[07:20] <kendrick_> Hey I tell my CDROM to boot first but windows 8 ignores. Any help?
[07:21] <Gallomimia_> why is phablet tools ALWAYS on the update list. nothing else gets updated, but phablet-tools update every day?
[07:22] <ThisWeeksCoin> Hey guys. I need help
[07:23] <ThisWeeksCoin> I got infected on windows and I'm trying to find a way to remove the virus through my Ubuntu. Could anyone help, please?
[07:24] <Gallomimia_> my favorite method is to copy your essential files out and delete the partition with windows on it. never use windows again. if that's not your cup of tea, you could run a windows rescue disk, or after erasing everything on the partition as above, reinstall windows 8
[07:24] <mnemon> ThisWeeksCoin: you'll be better off by downloading a bootable antivirus thingy from one of the major av vendors or reinstalling.
[07:24] <Gallomimia_> perhaps selectively erasing files which are infected and using the rescue disk to reinstall them will work
[07:24] <ThisWeeksCoin> mnemon, I have bitcoin wallets there
[07:25] <ThisWeeksCoin> I can't use anything
[07:25] <ThisWeeksCoin> It lags badly
[07:25] <ThisWeeksCoin> Like the CPU usage is over 90%
[07:25] <mnemon> just copy the wallets from the disk then
[07:25] <Gallomimia_> ThisWeeksCoin: dude. get your wallets copied off that disk immediately.
[07:25] <ThisWeeksCoin> Did that already, sent my coins
[07:25] <ThisWeeksCoin> Needed 20  minutes to access wallet
[07:27] <shubhamjain> What is mobile broadband device name in ubuntu? I mean ethernet is eth0, eth1. Wi-Fi is wlan0. what is mobile broadband?
[07:27] <Gallomimia_> ThisWeeksCoin: two things. you should be able to mount your windows partition, if it's not already, with the "disks" program and copy any files you need off that drive. back everything up that you need now.
[07:28] <shubhamjain> I am using nethogs. and `nethogs mbn0` doesn't work.
[07:28] <Gallomimia_> second, keeping your bitcoin wallet on a windows volume is a bit like putting the combo to your safe on a label pasted on the top of it
[07:29] <spacemaster> Ok, so, this is the channel with more users at freenode. Let's do a test. Say "damntest" if you read this in this very min and then let's count how many of the 1642 users are really here
[07:29] <rww> spacemaster: this is a support channel, not a science lab, sorry.
[07:30] <Gallomimia_> i like how zero people actually did what he asked
[07:30] <ishanyx> i don't think anyone wants to get banned for spamming by following his instructions :P
[07:31] <rww> actually, it's because none of us are really here
[07:31] <spacemaster> jesus
[07:31] <Gallomimia_> i'm really hoping it's more like most people realize for themselves that it's stupid and rude to spam everyone with that garbage. now this is really !ot
[07:31] <spacemaster> spam? it was a simple test
[07:31] <spacemaster> but ok
[07:31] <ishanyx> if 1647 people sent that message it would be spam, yes
[07:31] <spacemaster> once in a lifetime
[07:32] <spacemaster> just to check how many people are online at any given moment at irc nowadays
[07:32] <Gallomimia_> please. back to ubuntu
[07:32] <rww> anyways, we now return to your scheduled support channel
[07:32] <spacemaster> no wonder people don't use irc anymore. this is kinda too much rules too much high noses...
[07:33] <rww> spacemaster: you're welcome to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and play there
[07:33] <spacemaster> ok Thanks
[07:33] <spacemaster> And sorry about the spam =)
[07:34] <Gallomimia_> you really think with 1500+ people in a channel we don't need some kind of rules to keep order and civility? it's simple common sense man. go search google for some of that
[07:34] <Myrtti> moving on...
[07:35] <spacemaster> I know you do, sorry if explained myself the wrong way
[07:39] <spacemaster> how can I remove system messages from the page?
[07:40] <spacemaster> the idea is to just show what people say and ignore all quit's and joines, xchat btw
[07:40] <rww> spacemaster: for this channel or all channels?
[07:40] <IdleOne> spacemaster: the idea here is to keep this channel Ubuntu support related only. Please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:41] <rww> IdleOne: they're asking a support question now :P
[07:41] <IdleOne> I saw no question
[07:41] <spacemaster> well, for this channel
[07:41] <rww> spacemaster: right-click it in the channel selector, there's an option for it somewhere in there
[07:42] <helmut_> hi
[07:43] <spacemaster> hide join/part messages?
[07:45] <spacemaster> Thanks rww I think it worked.
[07:45] <bazhang> spacemaster, right click channel choose there
[07:46] <bazhang> spacemaster, for all network, go into preferences, for single channel right click. you might also consider Hexchat
[07:47] <spacemaster> bazhang, thanks I think I got it
[07:48] <bazhang> Hexchat supports SASL much more easily
[07:49] <quotemstr> Is nhexl any good?
[07:50] <bazhang> quotemstr, what is nhex1
[07:50] <quotemstr> A replacement for hexl-mode.
[07:50] <bazhang> quotemstr, more details would get more response
[07:52] <quotemstr> Eh, it's very buggy
[08:06] <pikaren> why no people prefer osx to ubuntu for laptops?
[08:06] <pikaren> why do
[08:06] <dontRenameMe> hello
[08:06] <bazhang> !ot | pikaren
[08:07] <dontRenameMe> i need help for create file since remote ftp
[08:26] <diepes> Hello everyone
[08:28] <DoverMo> diepes, hello
[08:28] <diepes> Any recommendations for a dual panel file manager that works well with Ubuntu?
[08:29] <diepes> Or a way to add it to the default file manager ?
[08:35] <varunendra> diepes, have you tried "F3" in nautilus?
[08:36] <tedescoplus> ciao
[08:36] <tedescoplus> !list
[08:36] <spacemaster> ctrl + T in nautilus usually works
[08:37] <spacemaster> plus you should go to preferences and check the box that says "always open in navigation panels" or something like that
[08:37] <varunendra> spacemaster, yup, but side-by-side panel has its own advantages :)
[08:39] <spacemaster> Oh side by side. Well then I guess I'm no help cause I just use nautilus
[08:41] <varunendra> spacemaster, nautilus does that with "F3" :)
[08:42] <spacemaster> Ok. Will try it when in linux. Now im on Seven
[08:45] <diepes> spacemaster: ctrl + t worked (using Files)  default file manager,   but it is only tabs.
[08:45] <spacemaster> well diepes what do you really want to be able to do? Yes it is only tabs, that's how I usually use it.
[08:47] <spacemaster> have you tried F3 like varunendra said?
[08:47] <spacemaster> from a screenshot it looks like what you want
[08:47] <spacemaster> http://i.stack.imgur.com/mCVVl.png
[08:47] <diepes> better than nothing, but side by side panels is handy when sorting files into multiple folders.
[08:48] <diepes> Yes tried F3 does nothing
[08:48] <varunendra> diepes, Ubuntu version ?
[08:49] <varunendra> diepes, on my 12.03 here, View > Extra Pane (or F3) in nautilus.
[08:49] <varunendra> sorry, 12.04 :P
[08:52] <spacemaster> varunendra, that link I sent is what it does right when you push f3?
[08:52] <diepes> varunendra: 13.10,  file manager called "Files"  maybe the name changed.  No Extra under File > Preferences > Views
[08:53] <varunendra> diepes, yup, just looked it up. Here's a discussion : http://askubuntu.com/questions/285588/is-there-a-way-to-restore-nautilus-split-screen-f3-feature
[08:54] <varunendra> spacemaster, yeah, exactly the same what's in the screenshot.
[08:55] <spacemaster> thanks varunendra
[08:55] <n00b_dust> hi, is there any good documentation to know about the different files within the /dev directory?
[08:55] <varunendra> not sure what to reply, as the feature is gone now :P
[08:55] <vanea> Hello. Can anyone suggest what is the equivalence in perl of creating folders like this: mkdir -p {a,b,c,d}/{1,2,3} ?
[08:56] <DoverMo> vanea, did you ask in #perl ?
[08:56] <Onixs_> this kinda a noob Q. can i R/W files on a shared folder hosted by Windows NTFS?
[08:57] <vanea> DoverMo:  Not yet
[08:57] <DoverMo> vanea, that's where are the perl experts are
[08:58] <n00b_dust> @Onixs_ Yes, as long as its shared with the write permission enabled from the Windows system
[08:58] <vanea> DoverMo: thx :)
[09:01] <diepes> spacemaster: varunendra: thanks,  read through your link,  sounds like a lot of the features are being simplified as everyone gets ready for the new world of touch interfaces.
[09:02] <varunendra> diepes, yeah, also sounds like us desktop lovers would soon have to look at alternative DEs :|
[09:05] <Ricardo__> hello
[09:05] <Shaolu> Hi.
[09:11] <cyrano_> I'm trying to get a dual GPU setup going using xrandr. I've been able to successfully get them both to work with compositing using the modesetting driver and having nvidia render the display through the intel output. This gives me a 5 monitor setup all without using the xinerama extension. The problem I'm having is that the intel display is blocked off from mouse movement. But I am still able to move windows to and from that display. Any
[09:15] <Guest5041> Hello, I have a question about VMware memory usage on a Ubuntu Host with a Windows Guest, is this the proper place to ask about that?
[09:17] <mnemon> Guest5041: just ask the question, if it's not you might get suggestions for more appropriate place.
[09:20] <Carlital> Hi everyone
[09:23] <Carlital> I have a small question : I use Selenium Webdriver to execute tests on a linux machine. I launch firefox windows on my selenium server and from my client I would like to somehow get the visual results (video stream) of what is being executed in the firefox window on the server. I don't know how to do it (searched Xephyr and XNest but I think I'm misleaded)
[09:23] <Carlital> Do you guys have any idea?
[09:24] <aeon-ltd> Carlital: using something like vnc? it might be overkill though if you just want the selenium test results
[09:25] <Carlital> That's a good idea but that would mean that each person running my tests would have access to a single machine
[09:25] <Carlital> I was thinking about having several firefox windows running in parallel on a single server machine and then have several streams that I could distribute to the # users
[09:26] <Carlital> but that's what I will eventually do I guess (private cloud with several VM and a firefox window opening in full screen and HTML5 vnc client to stream the video of what is being executed)
[09:27] <aeon-ltd> i'm not sure about that, the way i've used vnc is just remote desktop purposes. i.e i see the while screen and that's the only stream
[09:27] <Carlital> aeon-ltd: I see, that's how TestingBot and SauceLabs are doing
[09:27] <Carlital> but that also means running a VM each time a new user connects :)
[09:28] <Name141> How do you remove this amazon junk?
[09:28] <Carlital> thanks for the insight
[09:28] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[09:29] <aeon-ltd> Carlital: there is probably some kind of extension/addon that would allow mirroring (like chrome to chromecast) for firefox
[09:32] <Carlital> thanks, I'll get back to work then and setup that private cloud
[09:32] <Carlital> regards
[09:34] <benkillin> you ban two
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> !amazon
[09:42] <rcw2> using lan seems to interrupt video.  suggestions?
[09:42] <cyrano_> What kind of disruption are you getting?
[09:42] <bekks> Define "using lan" please.
[09:43] <bekks> !details | rcw2
[09:49] <rcw2> bekks, ive been using k13.10 for a while without issue, but using wireless internet.  today, recently i wanted to switch to wired as opposed to wireless, and twice when i started using the wired connection, the video on the screen becomes unclear, and i have cold-rebooted the computer to restart
[09:50] <bekks> rcw2: So thats a video your watching over the network?
[09:50] <rcw2> bekks, no, its just the desktop
[09:50] <alexis__> hi
[09:51] <rcw2> bekks, soon after the wired connection starts upo
[09:51] <rcw2> up*
[09:51] <rcw2> the desktop becomes unclear
[09:51] <bekks> rcw2: So its not the video but the desktop.
[09:51] <rcw2> yes, im calling the desktop video here
[09:52] <bekks> rcw2: Please call the desktop desktop.
[09:52] <rcw2> so apparently theres some conflict with the lan card and the video card, right?
[09:52] <rcw2> bekks, ok, desktop=desktop
[09:52] <bekks> rcw2: Most likely it is some issue with a single software component in KDE, not with the graphics card itself.
[09:53] <rcw2> any recommendations for troubleshooting the particular software
[09:53] <rcw2> component
[09:53] <rcw2> it will be hard to test, as i must reboot soon after testing the wired connection
[09:54] <bekks> rcw2: Then I'd investigate the system logs, because a reboot should be necessary.
[09:55] <rcw2> !logs | rcw2
[09:55] <rcw2> !logs | rcw2
[09:56] <rcw2> bekks, what are the log names you recommend looking at
[09:58] <bekks> rcw2: All log in /var/log/ and ~/ with a timestamp matching the timestamp of the occurance of the problem.
[09:58] <rcw2> bekks, cheers
[10:00] <rcw2> ls -lahtr :)
[10:18] <gabriele> universitari
[10:18] <rcw2> i'd like a list of the laptops that have shown the best compatibility (k)ubuntu, especially the latest version.  where can they be found?
[10:23] <Myrtti> !hcl | rcw2 - this is your best bet beyond googling
[10:27] <interweb> Hi , How do I can run psiphon or other anti filter softwares on ubuntu ?
[10:29] <interweb> Hello !
[10:29] <gordonjcp> interweb: morning
[10:29] <interweb> Can anyone help ?
[10:29] <gordonjcp> interweb: install and run
[10:29] <gordonjcp> interweb: is there an Ubuntu package of it?
[10:30] <bekks> !info psiphon
[10:30] <interweb> gordonjcp, That is a software under windows and I use wine for it but it gets an error when it wants to change the proxy
[10:30] <gordonjcp> wine sucks
[10:30] <Devil> hi
[10:30] <interweb> I'm looking for any software to bypass internet cencorship
[10:30] <gordonjcp> interweb: it's not packaged but the source is available.  Looks like you've got a project
[10:31] <interweb> gordonjcp, Is there any other software for ubuntu to bypass cencorship?
[10:32] <gordonjcp> interweb: no idea, it's not really something I care about
[10:32] <gordonjcp> interweb: how you go about it probably depends on what you're trying to achieve
[10:32] <interweb> gordonjcp, I can not access to bbc , cnn , facebook , twitter etc
[10:32] <gordonjcp> and that in turn probably relates to where you are
[10:32] <rcw2> gordonjcp: wine why
[10:33] <gordonjcp> rcw2: because people install wine, then install crappy windows programs that don't work well, and blame the poor user experience on Linux
[10:33] <gordonjcp> if you're going to use Windows software, run it on Windows
[10:33] <interweb> Is there any free proxy or vpn for ubuntu ?
[10:33] <bekks> interweb: Tons.
[10:33] <gordonjcp> interweb: by default Ubuntu supports pptp
[10:33] <interweb> gordonjcp, So because of cencorship I should just use windows :/
[10:34] <cfhowlett> interweb, what country
[10:34] <bekks> interweb: The most popular ones are squid (proxy) and openvpn (vpn).
[10:34] <interweb> bekks, Could you give a name ?
[10:34] <gordonjcp> you should learn to spell "censorship"
[10:34] <gordonjcp> interweb: where are you, and what *exactly* are you trying to achieve?
[10:35] <Guest99344> I have similar problems with Wine i'd like to play a game or two but nothing seems to work
[10:35] <bekks> interweb: I just named them...
[10:35] <interweb> gordonjcp, china
[10:36] <interweb> bekks, What should I do after installing squid ?
[10:36] <gordonjcp> interweb: have you got access to some sort of server outside china?
[10:36] <bekks> interweb: Configure it.
[10:36] <bekks> !squid | interweb
[10:36] <dontRenameMe> i hello
[10:36] <cfhowlett> dontRenameMe, greetings
[10:37] <dontRenameMe> how create a file since "connect to server" in explorer gnome
[10:37] <interweb> gordonjcp, No , I don't
[10:37] <dontRenameMe> i connected my ftp but i can't to create file
[10:37] <gordonjcp> interweb: you're pretty much stuck then
[10:38] <gordonjcp> interweb: whatever you do inside the filtering will always remain inside the filtering
[10:38] <gordonjcp> interweb: you can look at building psiphon for linux, the source is available
[10:38] <interweb> gordonjcp, You mean I should just compile it for linux ?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> interweb: yes
[10:39] <gordonjcp> the source code is there on bitbucket
[10:39] <dontRenameMe> My question is too hard ?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !patience|dontRenameMe,
[10:39] <gordonjcp> interweb: the quick and easy way is to get a server somewhere not firewalled, and use that
[10:39] <gordonjcp> !details | dontRenameMe
[10:39] <inominat> DoontRenameMe: maybe no write access hmm?
[10:39] <gordonjcp> dontRenameMe: also, you say you're using ftp, which is generally a bad idea
[10:40] <inominat> :D
[10:40] <inominat> You should use sftp
[10:40] <inominat> save-file-transport-protocol
[10:40] <interweb> gordonjcp, Is there any free server that I could use ?
[10:40] <dontRenameMe> i know, thanks
[10:40] <gordonjcp> interweb: I don't know, google might
[10:40] <gordonjcp> interweb: buy a cheap VPS somewhere maybe?
[10:41] <interweb> gordonjcp, I don't want to buy a server .
[10:41] <inominat> Would be great to script messages for irc, do anyone have a good solution to do so?
[10:41] <ant_thomas> When attempting a netinstall/minimal install is it normal to have to wait ages to go from selecting the mirror to "loading additional components" I'm sure in the past this has been near enough instant but in all my recent 12.04 install it sits for a very long time. What is actually happening at this point?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> interweb, come on now, don't be lazy.  But a vpn/vps out of country and surf to your heart's content.  I'm in Beijing.  This is how it works.
[10:42] <gordonjcp> interweb: you don't pay, you don't play
[10:42] <cfhowlett> interweb, of course, if you've a friend beyond the firewall who'll set up a vpn point for you, great!  otherwise, spend the dough, get r done.
[10:42] <bekks> inominat: Doing so is considered to be spamming.
[10:43] <interweb> Should I have a proxy server to use squid ?
[10:43] <bekks> interweb: No. squid is a local proxy server.
[10:43] <inominat> Well, don't mean automatic answering. More likely to bind some useful stuff like: "You really should ask google this question" :D
[10:44] <bekks> inominat: A sane IRC client is capable of creating aliases.
[10:44] <streulma> Every time I try to work with Ubuntu on my Mac, the app crashed: A system problem has been detected. Should I reverse to 13.04 ?
[10:45] <bekks> Which app?
[10:45] <streulma> I don't know
[10:45] <inominat> aliases in my mind are different names to use an account, aren't they?  I use Smuxi IRC Client
[10:45] <interweb> bekks, So Could I bypass the censorship using it ?
[10:45] <bekks> inominat: No. An alias is an appreviation of a longer command.
[10:46] <bekks> inominat: Not without a server located outside your country.
[10:46] <streulma> bekks: maybe something incompatible with the Macbook and unity?
[10:46] <inominat> bekks: Great. Last message was not for me, was it?
[10:46] <inominat> bekks: Thanks for you help.
[10:47] <bekks> streulma: I dont think so.
[10:48] <bekks> interweb: Not without a server located outside your country.
[10:50] <streulma> bekks: back to OSX then...
[10:50] <bekks> streulma: Instead of solving/investigating the problem?
[10:51] <inominat> bekks: Is there a possibility to check if a specific nick is online on freenode?
[10:51] <inominat> StalkR: so we go
[10:51] <bekks> inominat: No.
[10:52] <inominat> Thanks I would say. So to arrange a meeting you have to join the same channel at the same time, right?
[10:52] <bekks> inominat: yes.
[10:52] <streulma> bekks: most of the programs runs on OSX/Windows, not on Linux for me.
[10:52] <inominat> bekks: But normal wisper Name: Message work if a person is online and NOT in the same channel?
[10:52] <bekks> streulma: you could use a vm, too.
[10:53] <bekks> inominat: just try it with the person you want to talk to.
[10:53] <streulma> so bekks: I have to install a virtual machine with all of my programs, sound in it is choppy in virtualbox
[10:53] <bekks> streulma: I dont need sound to get my work done.
[10:54] <Speiros> Is anyone available who might be able to help me upgrade, using terminal.  I seem blocked in so many ways.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  what goes wrong?
[10:55] <inominat> bekks: Okey, one last question: what do you think about running a Windows-Server 2012 on a laptop as hipyerviser with hyper-v to use multiple systems and test environments on one platform? Why not ESXI? Well the UNIX Problem, that there is no x-serve in the kernel and therefore no ways to use the VM from the host-maschine. What do you think?
[10:55] <bekks> inominat: I think: it has entirely nothing to do with Ubuntu support.
[10:56] <inominat> bekks: YOu are right, but there are running a ubuntu maschine inside :D so come on, what do you think?
[10:56] <bekks> inominat: it has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[10:56] <streulma> inominat: I should use a minimal Linux system for it
[10:57] <inominat> bekks: like that you are consistent at this point. Thanks
[10:57] <streulma> inominat: run Proxmox :)
[10:57] <Speiros> MonkeyDust I have an old version of ubuntu, specifically 10.4, and I've tried to upgrade to 12.0.4 LTS, but as much as I now have the image uploaded to my computer, I can't fix things.  ODM is messing things up, as it didn't install properly, so now I can't remove it, nor can I upgrade or complete the install.  My firefox is version 20, and for some reason is stopping me now from clicking on javascript, although javascript is enabl
[10:57] <Speiros> ed.  I feel like throwing my computer through the wall or window, but it isn't my place, and the computer is all I have.
[10:57] <inominat> streulma: Getting interesseting, promox as an hipyervisor on UNIX base?
[10:57] <streulma> inominat: yes
[10:57] <bekks> proxmox is no hypervisor.
[10:57] <inominat> Could you use it as?
[10:58] <bekks> proxmox is an admin panel for some hypervisors.
[10:58] <streulma> I tryed and it works good :)
[10:58] <Speiros> MonkeyDust my main goal is to get my computer working efficiently, but everything I upload doesn't upload properly...well not everything, but key things that are needed.
[10:58] <streulma> Debian based I think inominat
[10:58] <Moonshine> Hi all
[10:58] <Moonshine> im having some trouble =/7
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  1) 10.04 is !eol    2) better backup and fresh install 12.04
[10:58] <inominat> streulma: Did you test it out?
[10:58] <bekks> proxmox basicaly uses kvm as hypervisor.
[10:58] <interweb2> Is there any free software like psiphon on ubuntu ?
[10:58] <Speiros> MonkeyDust it won't install.
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  meaning? what happens when you try?
[10:59] <Moonshine> im trying to install a unlocker for Warcraft but i cant get it to load it's a .exe, wont load through wine
[10:59] <inominat> bekks: kvm alright, got to start familiar with this.
[10:59] <Speiros> MonkeyDust I even tried to install it onto an external hard drive, and change the bios to start with the external hard drive first.
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  sounds complicated, what happens when you install on an internal drive
[11:00] <Speiros> MonkeyDust I pounded my laptop after I upgraded to LTS about one year ago.
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  what are the symptoms?
[11:01] <inominat> streulma: Thank you for this advice!
[11:01] <Speiros> MonkeyDust certain programs won't function.  I'm scared of having this, my last internal hard drive with all my programs on it screwed up.
[11:01] <Moonshine> can anyone help me? =[
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  still too vague... "won't function"?
[11:01] <spacemaster> Moonshine, what's your problem
[11:01] <Speiros> MonkeyDust, because of the database issues because of ODM, I can't upgrade onto the internal harddrive.
[11:02] <Moonshine> im trying to run a .exe it's aunlocker for WoW for a rotation bot but it wont load via wine
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  what's ODM?
[11:02] <Speiros> MonkeyDust, let me check the name, as I could be wrong
[11:02] <Speiros> MonkeyDust, sorry, OBM
[11:02] <Ben64> why even upgrade? you could do a fresh install
[11:02] <spacemaster> well wine doen't load everything...
[11:03] <TJ-> Speiros: Do you mean GDM, the display manager?
[11:03] <Moonshine> i've tried installing it via playolinux and i get this error: Error in POL_Wine
[11:03] <Moonshine> Wine seems to have crashed
[11:03] <Moonshine> If your program is running, just ignore this message.
[11:03] <Ben64> Speiros: so... what's OBM?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  ok, and what's OBM?
[11:03] <Ben64> !appdb | Moonshine
[11:04] <Moonshine> i've tried this programme isnt on there list lol
[11:04] <spacemaster> well then it is not supported
[11:04] <bekks> Moonshine: So most likely it wont run.
[11:04] <spacemaster> yeah
[11:04] <Speiros> MonkeyDust it's a stupid database program that I thought I could install to help fix my problems with the databases not being accessed through whatever the problem was back then when I thought it would fix it.  I don't recall the other issue, as it's been too much of a brainf... to remember.
[11:04] <Ben64> Moonshine: see where the bot says "Join #winehq for application help" ?
[11:04] <spacemaster> you better install a virtual machine and run it on windows
[11:04] <TJ-> Speiros: You mean ODBC?
[11:04] <Ben64> Speiros: so why even upgrade? you could do a fresh install
[11:05] <Moonshine> yea i got it cheers ben
[11:05] <Speiros> TJ- I don't know.  It's called OBM.
[11:05] <TJ-> Speiros: OK ... so if it is causing problems... how did you install it originally? Using "apt-get" or "dpkg" or manually building and installing?
[11:05] <Speiros> Ben64 I've tried that way too.  I don't know how to, and I know it will mess up when I get to the part when I can't chat to someone to guide me through it.
[11:06] <Speiros> No, I just want to fix the 12.0.4 thing, not worry about the database program as it's a nightmare.
[11:06] <Ben64> Speiros: 1. backup all your important data to that external drive you were talking about. 2. download and burn 12.04 iso. 3. boot it, and install. you can be on the live system while its installing and be here
[11:07] <Speiros> Ben64 you and I went through this step before.  I can't burn to disk.  I have the image on the external hard drive, but nothing happens.
[11:07] <Ben64> Speiros: then use a usb drive?
[11:08] <Speiros> Ben64 I need a flash drive.  My external hard drive is on USB, but this must be different I think, is it?
[11:08] <Speiros> Ben64 my external hard drive is a usb drive
[11:09] <omid8bimo> my headphone jack is not working suddently. any body knows any solution? it was working yesterday and now, when i plug in my headphone or speaker, nothing happens
[11:09] <Ben64> Speiros: well its easier if you have a flash drive you can format
[11:10] <Gryfelhase> hiho... with ubtunu 12.03 I can connect via nfs to the cable-recievers harddisc. But...
[11:10] <Speiros> Ben64 I have two external drives.  One I completely removed everything off it, and reformatted it.  I chose a file type, and installed the image on it.  I then changed the BIOS to start with the external drive.  It doesn't open the external drive firstly, but flicks about 100 io messages up the screen then goes back to the original hard drive.
[11:10] <Gryfelhase> with ubuntu 13.10 mount reports: Protocol not supported
[11:11] <Gryfelhase> I did already used modprobe nfsv3, but didn' helped
[11:11] <Ben64> Speiros: how did you put the image on the external drive?
[11:12] <Speiros> I downloaded the tar, and extracted it.
[11:12] <Speiros> I'm pretty sure.
[11:12] <Ben64> well thats doubly wrong
[11:12] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes.  It doesn't work.
[11:12] <Ben64> 1. its not a tar 2. you don't extract it
[11:13] <Speiros> Ben64, okay.  Can you tell me please some commands to type into terminal so I can see what happens and I can give you the details?  I can attempt ti now.
[11:13] <Speiros> Ben64 Seriously, I am going crazy.  This version of Ubuntu is the last one I had working, and I've already lost one computer due ot computer rage, and two others are stuffed, and now I am on my final one.
[11:14] <Ben64> you just need to get the right image, which is not a tar, its an iso, and put it on the external drive correctly. you can either use something like unetbootin, or you can dd the image directly to the drive.
[11:14] <Speiros> Ben64 I don't know what those terms mean.
[11:15] <Ben64> format the external drive, use the ext3 filesystem. use "unetbootin" to put the 12.04 iso onto the external drive
[11:16] <bekks> Use ext4 nowadays.
[11:16] <Ben64> idk if 10.04 has that as an option
[11:17] <dontRenameMe> how to create a file with nano without open editor please ?
[11:17] <bekks> dontRenameMe: you cant.
[11:17] <Speiros> Yes, there is an ext4 option, but I'll give it another go.  I'll tell you when I've re-formatted it (but I'm wondering if I can thanks to the database issue anyway.
[11:17] <bekks> dontRenameMe: just use "touch filename" to create an empty file named "filename".
[11:17] <dontRenameMe> touch does not work with ftp
[11:18] <bekks> neither does nano.
[11:18] <dontRenameMe> nano can to create file
[11:18] <bekks> Transfer a file to your ftp server to create it.
[11:18] <dontRenameMe> but it is in editor
[11:18] <bekks> nano does not work with ftp.
[11:19] <dontRenameMe> nobody know to manipulate file
[11:19] <Ben64> you need to better explain what you want, dontRenameMe
[11:19] <bekks> dontRenameMe: nano cant do what you want.
[11:20] <dontRenameMe> Goodbye, i'm the only able to do that
[11:20] <bekks> Then share your secret knowledge please.
[11:24] <Speiros> Ben64 I am re-formatting the drive to ext4
[11:26] <Speiros> Ben64 Ok, it is reformatted to ext4
[11:27] <Speiros> Ben64 What is unetbootin?
[11:28] <interweb2> is there any anti censorship software to use on ubuntu
[11:28] <vaskozl> Hey why does: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp not work anymore?
[11:29] <vaskozl> piping stuff into the speakers would be really cool
[11:29] <vaskozl> especially over ssh
[11:29] <vaskozl> so why doesn't it work anyomre?
[11:30] <vaskozl> Is no one interested?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !patience|vaskozl,
[11:31] <vaskozl> hello ubottu
[11:33] <theodorDiaconu> hello guys, I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare and I am trying to access it's 80 port. I am connected via modem through internet, and the VmWare option I choose was 'Host-Only' (https://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_net_configurations_hostonly.html) problem is that when I open Network Settings in Ubuntu, I click on the 'Wired' connection clicking Options doesn't do nothing for me. (Running 13.10
[11:33] <theodorDiaconu> 32-bit)
[11:33] <FloodBot1> theodorDiaconu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <vaskozl> theodorDiaconu: what does ifconfig yield?
[11:34] <roosbeef> whats up guys
[11:34] <theodorDiaconu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6779429/
[11:35] <theodorDiaconu> this virtual machine has been previously copied from my desktop to laptop. And I configured it to have a static 192.168.32.108 IP address
[11:35] <roosbeef> so i just upgraded to 13.10 on my laptop. All of a sudden power settings are totally messed up (imo) - when i close the lid it suspends (used to just keep running and lock screen), when pressing power button it immediately shuts down (used to ask) -- how do i restore this to old settings?
[11:35] <vaskozl> is 108 the ip of the host?
[11:35] <glitsj16> vaskozl: /dev/dsp hasn't been around anymore for several years now .. what version of ubuntu are you running exactly?
[11:35] <theodorDiaconu> ip of the virtual machine
[11:36] <vaskozl> glitsj16: I'm running 13.10
[11:36] <theodorDiaconu> vaskozl, the ip is unreachable (running it from windows machine :( )
[11:36] <vaskozl> glitsj16: I read some pretty cool post's that show how you can pipe: cat /dev/mouse > /dev/dsp
[11:36] <vaskozl> and get noise whenever you move yours mouse
[11:37] <vaskozl> theodorDiaconu: ping 192.168.0.108 nothing?
[11:37] <glitsj16> vaskozl: then you need to try with pulseaudio .. something like pacat /dev/urandom > padsp might work
[11:37] <theodorDiaconu> it's 32.108 and nope, Request timed out
[11:37] <vaskozl> glitsj16: you are awesome
[11:39] <vaskozl> theodorDiaconu: with host only the VM can only acces other VM's and the host
[11:40] <vaskozl> theodorDiaconu: why don't you used bridged?
[11:40] <vaskozl> it should get it's own adress in the lan
[11:42] <theodorDiaconu> vaskozl yep, it should, but it does not :) , I still get request timed out, and the problem is in Ubuntu I believe or maybe vmware messed up with the network drivers, because I can't modify the 'Wired' connection I have in Network settings
[11:42] <vaskozl> theodorDiaconu: are you using bridged mode or host-only mode?
[11:43] <theodorDiaconu> tried with both
[11:43] <theodorDiaconu> it seems like no change is being done when I select either one from the vmware interface
[11:43] <Speiros> Ben64 What does it mean to use "unetbootin" to put the 12.04 iso onto the external drive?
[11:43] <theodorDiaconu> I should also mention that 'Wired' connection is unmanaged
[11:44] <ROPA> How do I change permissions on a cd-rw?? The sudo chmod command fails, and gives the error that it is a read only disk. The disk was previously used in a windows machine years ago. Do I need to reformat the cd?? I'm stuck.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !usb|Speiros,
[11:45] <bekks> ROPA: copy the entire data to your harddive, chown, and burn the cd-rw again.
[11:46] <Speiros> cfhowlett I don't get it.  Is that a live chat site too, or a forum?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Speiros, that's a wiki describing exactly how to create a bootable USB
[11:47] <ROPA> I never thought of chown, thanks bekks.
[11:47] <theodorDiaconu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6779491/ <--- /etc/network/interfaces
[11:47] <theodorDiaconu> this might be the problem
[11:47] <theodorDiaconu> I forgot I changed this a while ago
[11:47] <bekks> ROPA: I meant chmod, not chown. Copy the data, chmod, and burn the cd-rw again.
[11:48] <Speiros> cfhowlett Ok, I'll have a look at it, and see if it can help me.  Cheers.  Seriously though, I've been trying to do this since 2010, although I have been frozen in time thanks to life's horrible circumstances, and now I've forgotten nearly everything I was learning prior to then.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> Speiros, the wiki is pretty detailed.  if you get stuck, come back here.
[11:50] <ROPA> bekks but, I can't chmod, which is my problem. When I try to do it, I get the error message saying it's a read only....and no changes are made to the disk.
[11:50] <Speiros> cfhowlett Will do, cheers.
[11:51] <Petazz> How can I make numlock be on when ubuntu boots?
[11:52] <Petazz> Instructions here seem outdated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[11:52] <schnibbl0r> Petazz: this used to be a setting in the bios
[11:52] <Speiros> cfhowlett What is the "unity dash"?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> Speiros, on ubuntu 13.04 and above, that's the search utility .  press the windows button on your keyboard and it'll pop up
[11:54] <Speiros> cfhowlett Ok
[11:54] <Petazz> Hmm ok, I guess the numlockx fits ok
[11:54] <Petazz> Another thing, how can I change the alt+tab dialog to show all windows and not all applications?
[11:55] <Speiros> cfhowlett I have 10.4, also my windows button remains empty.
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Speiros, as I said: 13.04 and above ...
[11:58] <Speiros> cfhowlett I've searched for usb-creator-gtk and I've found 19 files or folders with that name.  Which one do I choose to open, and how do I open them?  If I click on them I just get information.
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Speiros, found them where?  on your system?
[11:58] <Speiros> cfhowlett Yes.
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Speiros, open a terminal and type usb-creator-gtk and it'll launch or it should be under the menu
[11:59] <Speiros> Ok, thanks
[12:00] <theodorDiaconu> ok so my problem was that I was previously enforcing via /etc/network/interfaces a specific network configuration that would allow me to have a static ip
[12:00] <Speiros> cfhowlett "Installation failed".  It didn't give me an explanation.
[12:00] <Speiros> Let me try again
[12:01] <theodorDiaconu> by removing that , and restarting I could solve my problem easily
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Speiros, probably likely to fail since 10.04 is end of life ...
[12:01] <glitsj16> Petazz: that page explicitly states the setting has no effect at the login screen or consoles .. you can edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add something like "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" (without the quotes)
[12:02] <Speiros> cfhowlett I am in a "There's a hole in my bucket" situation, and I've been on this treadmill for a long time.
[12:02] <milosz96> hi all. I want to save my current cpu load to file. How can i do it? It's important to do it at least twice per second.
[12:02] <Nattgris> Hi!
[12:03] <Nattgris> Since upgrading to 13.10 my keyboard layout reverts to english every time I reboot
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Speiros, terminal time ... apt-cache policy usb-creator-gtk
[12:03] <Nattgris> even if I remove all layots but swedish
[12:03] <Speiros> cfhowlett thanks
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Speiros, that'll tell you if it's installed or not
[12:04] <Speiros> cfhowlett Installed : 0.2.22.3
[12:04] <Nattgris> seems to be a common problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183068 http://askubuntu.com/questions/362973/keyboard-layout-switches-to-english-each-time-i-reboot etc.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Speiros, then no need to install.   is it in your system menu?
[12:05] <Nattgris> but only workarounds, no real solutions
[12:05] <Speiros> cfhowlett Yes
[12:05] <Speiros> Disk creator
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Speiros, right.  so it should launch from there ...
[12:06] <Speiros> cfhowlett Yes, but this is the one that is saying "Installation failed"
[12:06] <Speiros> cfhowlett Let me try again from here
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Speiros, fair enough.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Speiros, does this box dual boot?  have you access to any other computer?
[12:08] <Speiros> cfhowlett No.  Last time I had a computer and went through this, I finally bashed the crap out of it, and threw it away.
[12:08] <Speiros> cfhowlett This problem has been going on for years, and I've not been able to cope.
[12:08] <Petazz> IS there no way of using the unitu switcher to show all windows straight away?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Speiros, let's not go there :)
[12:09] <Speiros> cfhowlett lol, good plan
[12:09] <Speiros> cfhowlett an option box from usb start up has opened...I'll just read it
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Speiros, nice ...
[12:12] <Speiros> cfhowlett Although this might sound silly, I am going to now enter the password a second time for authentication, but when I do, I believe it will once again say unable to boot...here goes anyhow.
[12:12] <Speiros> cfhowlett Yep..."Failed to install the bootloader".
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Speiros, you are entering your admin password?
[12:12] <manlin> hi users, i want to stop cups smb service from autostarting on boot. how to do it? anyone please
[12:13] <Speiros> cfhowlett yep
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Speiros, any chance you hit the incorrect password?
[12:13] <Tobzion> Hi.  I have an issue. I installed Ubuntu 10.4. Today when I reeboot after Ubuntu logga the screen is dark Grey and the cursor is an X. I can move around but no icons or menu and no key shortcuts work. I can still access the files on computer from my phone or TV. Anyone can assist me ty.
[12:13] <Speiros> cfhowlett I think it is because I changed the root password previously, and the admin password is different.  I have two passwords for authorisation.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Tobzion, 10.04 is end of life.  Install a supported version
[12:14] <Speiros> cfhowlett If I type an incorrect password it gives me a different message.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Speiros, you have a ROOT password!?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !root
[12:14] <Speiros> cfhowlett yes.
[12:14] <kendrick_> In Ubuntu 8 my wires connection works but in Ubuntu 13 it doesn't.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Speiros, OK then ... well, refusing to install the bootloader due to no authorization is normal behavior ...
[12:14] <Speiros> cfhowlett, well my computer has two passwords, and I believe that this is the main problem.
[12:15] <kendrick_> Wireless
[12:15] <kendrick_> My wired sorry
[12:15] <Tobzion> Ok. I guess I just install 12.04 then
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Speiros, I've 2 accounts: one daily use, one admin.
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Tobzion, highly recommended ...
[12:16] <kendrick_> Hey in Ubuntu 8 wired connection works but in 13 it doesn't.
[12:16] <Speiros> cfhowlett The problem is that from here, I can't format the main drive I'm using, as I reckon I'll get stuck where I'll need online help and won't be able to get access to it.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Speiros, if you ever get your boot USB up, just run the live session and install in the background
[12:17] <Speiros> cfhowlett this is why I wanted the external drive to have the iso, which I actually copied onto there previously, but have deleted it today to go through the system as people tell me that it can't just be copied.
[12:18] <Speiros> cfhowlett I don't know how to get the boot USB up, as I can't disk create.
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Speiros, alternatives: go to your public library.  download the iso and make a usb or cdrom from there
[12:18] <Speiros> cfhowlett I have added passwords, and when I get a fail in this stupid OBM or whatever it is called, it says "Password:Yes", but
[12:19] <Speiros> cfhowlett Yes, I guess it is something like that that is required.
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  is this the OBM you are talking about http://obm.org/
[12:20] <Speiros> MonkeyDust Yes
[12:21] <Speiros> MonkeyDust when I went to load it, it didn't load fully, but it also isn't able to be deleted.
[12:21] <Speiros> MonkeyDust also, I installed it because of some problem, thinking it was something else, I think.  I can't recall the exact reason but something to do with database system.
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  are you running ubuntu server?
[12:22] <Speiros> MonkeyDust No.
[12:23] <Speiros> MonkeyDust I'm running the distro Ubuntu 10.4 as I haven't been able to upgrade.
[12:24] <Speiros> MonkeyDust I made an unsuccessful upgrade to 10.10 on one of my computers a long time back.  That was my last successful...although it didn't work properly...upgrade.
[12:26] <realNWO> anyone know of a cert manager or konversation cert paths
[12:26] <Speiros> cfhowlett is there a terminal command to use usb-creator-gtk instead of opening the program?  It might show the error that way in the attempt of loading it.
[12:27] <gaaaaa> problem dual booting windows8 and ubuntu 12.04
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Speiros, sure usb-creator-gtk will launch it - but the error is, as you suggested, probably  a password issue.  You have 2; try both
[12:28] <Speiros> cfhowlett The password is accepted, but then it doesn't open.  I'll show you the two different messages.  Hang on a minute..
[12:28] <gaaaaa> problem dual booting windows8 and ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !patience|gaaaaa,
[12:29] <Speiros> cfhowlett The message for the wrong password is "Authentication Failure"
[12:29] <gaaaaa> okay
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Speiros, exactomundo
[12:29] <Speiros> cfhowlett The message for the right password is "Installation Failure" with no added explanation.
[12:30] <Speiros> cfhowlett Sorry, Installation Failed
[12:30] <milosz96> How can i get speeds of my fans if lm_sensors doesn't see any?
[12:30] <fpghost84> Hi, I'd like to create a user/group for a certain daemon, could anyone give me a rough idea of how to do so? I have to use useradd? Then how do I associate the daemon to the group?
[12:31] <Speiros> lol other than ouija?
[12:32] <llutz> fpghost84: "sudo -g newgroup daemon"  or "-u newuser" (man sudo)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Speiros, I ran the -h option to see if it might possible to trigger verbose error reporting - no such luck.  Plan B; download unetbootin from sourceforge, install and create.  If the error persists, you might need to revisit that root/admin password arrangement
[12:33] <Speiros> cfhowlett I found unetbootin, although it is displayed as a box with a questionmark in it in my applicatons
[12:33] <Speiros> cfhowlett what can I do with unetbootin?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Speiros, terminal unetbootin
[12:34] <oaulakh> i need somw help guys on how i make my current account to as root account in ubuntu
[12:34] <Speiros> Ok
[12:34] <fpghost84> llutz: thanks, so I have to make the system user first right? then do the associating with `sudo`?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Speiros, it's an alternate usb creator
[12:34] <sultan> hi
[12:34] <gaaaaa> problem dual booting windows8 and ubuntu 12.04
[12:34] <cfhowlett> sultan, greetings
[12:34] <Speiros> I see.
[12:34] <llutz> fpghost84: yes, you may check if the config of your daemon allow to set a specific user/group too
[12:34] <gaaaaa> dual boot with win8 problem
[12:34] <sultan> hello
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !patience|gaaaaa,
[12:35] <sultan> help me
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !details|sultan,
[12:35] <fpghost84> llutz: I think I could have done it with the config flags, but unfortunately I forgot during the build, so now would like to do it by hand
[12:35] <oaulakh> when i type sudo su ,it shows me something like that new is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:35] <gaaaaa> problem dual booting windows8 and ubuntu 12.10
[12:36] <sultan> i want t use whatsapp on my lc
[12:36] <sultan> *pc
[12:36] <sultan> i want to use watsapp on my pc
[12:36] <gaaaaa> i want divorce
[12:36] <oaulakh> how can i make my user account to root account
[12:36] <gaaaaa> use sudo
[12:37] <sultan> why do you want dfivorse
[12:37] <oaulakh> use bluestacks for watsapp
[12:37] <llutz> oaulakh: "sudo adduser username sudo"
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !ot|gaaaaa,
[12:37] <sultan> fuck man
[12:37] <gaaaaa> then add new user
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !language|sultan,
[12:37] <sultan> ok
[12:38] <sultan> i want a girl to have sex
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !ops|sultan
[12:38] <gaaaaa> vaporise u sultan
[12:38] <sultan> wot hppen?
[12:38] <oaulakh> its working thanks
[12:38] <sultan> whatsapp
[12:39] <gaaaaa> ya
[12:39] <sultan> hi
[12:39] <gaaaaa> use pidgin for the awtaspp
[12:39] <elky> gaaaaa, sultan: this is not an appropriate channel for discussing relationship matters. Stop it.
[12:39] <sultan> how
[12:39] <Speiros> cfhowlett It says it's complete, and to select the USB boot option in the bios boot menu.  Does this mean to access bios again and make sure it reads from my hard drive first?
[12:40] <sultan> will u do it on my pc now for me
[12:40] <Speiros> My USB drive I mean?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Speiros, if you want the USB to boot, you must tell your bios to go there rather than the HDD.
[12:40] <sultan> are u a male?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> !ot|sultan
[12:41] <Speiros> cfhowlett okay.  I think it's automatically set up that way from last time, but I'll have a look to make sure.  I'll see you soon.
[12:41] <sultan> what is your sex?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Speiros, fingers crossed
[12:41] <Myrtti> sultan: What does That have to do with anything?
[12:41] <elky> sultan: that is not an appropriate question.
[12:41] <cfhowlett> !ops|sultan,
[12:41] <Speiros> sultan you are on the wrong channel
[12:41] <Myrtti> cfhowlett: yes, we see
[12:41] <sultan> how?
[12:41] <elky> It's not appropriate for any ubuntu channels. Not even the offtopic one.
[12:41] <llutz> stop feeding the troll, kick him
[12:41] <oaulakh> hello
[12:41] <Simpson_2> Hi, I have ubunut 12.04.4 + Postgress 9.1 startup issues
[12:41] <Speiros> sultan there are other chat sites for discussing these other subjects mate.
[12:41] <sultan> o hello
[12:42] <cfhowlett> kick and ban please
[12:42] <oaulakh> anyone know how to register chat channel on irc
[12:42] <sultan>  i want to use watsapp..
[12:42] <Simpson_2> on startup it fails with a shared memory error, but on manual 'service postgres start' after boot it works fine
[12:43] <elky> sultan: whatsapp is for phones.
[12:43] <sultan> it is not working on ubunto os?
[12:43] <Speiros> cfhowlett thanks and I'll see you soon.  Thanks also to MonkeyDust, Ben64 and I can't remember who else, as I can't scroll up that far, but all of your input whether successful or not, is highly appreciated.
[12:43] <Sik> Hello, using Ubuntu 13.04 x64 here, I'm trying to use Anthy but it outright doesn't work (it hangs in some Python process). I'm having this issue since 12.04. Any ideas? I seriously need this to be fixed since I need to test IME support in a program I'm making.
[12:43] <Speiros> I'll be back soon.
[12:43] <elky> sultan: they do not provide a linux version.
[12:43] <oaulakh> its working use wine to install it
[12:43] <sultan> no dnt go
[12:44] <oaulakh> sultan : its working use wine to install it
[12:44] <sultan> can anybody install it for me on my pc....online  plaese..
[12:44] <neworder> Hi guys
[12:44] <neworder> I'm trying to install LAMP on Ubuntu
[12:44] <Ben64> sultan: no. whatsapp is not for ubuntu
[12:45] <sultan> whatsapp/
[12:45] <sultan> ok thank..
[12:45] <sultan> how can change my os.now
[12:45] <neworder> I ran a sudo apt-get update command
[12:46] <neworder> and it tells me it cannot connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <neworder> Any solutions plss
[12:46] <Simpson_2> at what point in the boot process are shm parameters set ( which run level )
[12:46] <sultan> i want to install win8
[12:46] <Ben64> sultan: then join ##windows ... this channel is for Ubuntu support _only_
[12:46] <sultan> pls ans me
[12:47] <cfhowlett> sultan, for whatsapp support, go to www.whatsapp.com  - this is not an ubuntu issue.
[12:47] <Ben64> neworder: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[12:47] <sultan> ben: can you install window 8 now in my pc noe...online....
[12:47] <|newbie|> ciao
[12:48] <Ben64> sultan: did you read what i just said? this is not windows support.
[12:48] <sultan> ben64 ans me
[12:48] <neworder> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[12:48]  * cfhowlett thinks more than enough rope has been extended - yank the cord please.
[12:48] <Speiros> cfhowlett Oh well.  Here we are again.lol
[12:48] <sultan> ok
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Speiros, how'd it go, then?
[12:48] <neworder> Slipped on the cord :P
[12:48] <neworder> Just joking
[12:49] <sultan> can any  body will give your phone no. pls
[12:49] <Speiros> cfhowlett No good mate, it tried to open from the usb, but eventually skipped over to the hard drive.
[12:49] <Ben64> elky, Myrtti: either of you still around? sultan doesn't appear to understand this channel
[12:49] <cfhowlett> Speiros, autotmatically went to HDD?  that's not normal ...
[12:49] <Speiros> Really?
[12:50] <oaulakh> how to list all user available in system
[12:50] <sultan> ya pls give me ur no. now?
[12:50] <Ben64> cfhowlett: i haven't kept up, what did you have him do?
[12:50] <Speiros> cfhowlett I have the boot order so that usb goes first, then hard drive
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Speiros, course not.  try this: go into bios setting and disable (temporarily) the HDD.  reboot with usb priority
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Ben64, trying to fire up a usb boot
[12:50] <sultan> rply me
[12:50] <Speiros> cfhowlett Ok, I'll try.
[12:50] <oaulakh> how to list all user available in system
[12:50] <Ben64> cfhowlett: what method of putting ubuntu on the usb?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Ben64, usb-creator-gtk  I think
[12:51] <Speiros> cfhowlett f9 is to change the boot order, what is bios
[12:51] <Speiros> unetbootin
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Speiros, differs by machine.  it'll flash display during power on self test
[12:51] <Speiros> Ok  cya soon
[12:51] <Ben64> yeah try to disable hdd boot altogether for now, and relay any errors booting to us
[12:51] <zaitzev> It is often the Delete key
[12:51] <oaulakh> how to list all user available in system
[12:52] <Speiros> Thanks zaitzev
[12:52] <oaulakh> how to remove user
[12:52] <oaulakh> in ubuntu
[12:52] <Speiros> Ben64 ok
[12:53] <zaitzev> oaulakh: deluser username
[12:56] <gabriele> universitari
[12:56] <jjavaholic> how does not having oss4-base anymore likely to effect your system sound?
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> jjavaholic  please rephrase, what brings you here
[12:59] <pikaren> how can i trust ubuntu's repo?
[12:59] <gordonjcp> pikaren: in what sense?
[12:59] <zaitzev> how can you not? :)
[12:59] <LjL> pikaren: act of faith
[12:59] <cfhowlett> pikaren, trust it to what?
[13:00] <pikaren> maybe it would steal my money
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> pikaren  why would you not trust them?
[13:00] <bazkie_bumpercar> hey everyone, i was wondering if ubuntu 12.04 was using grub or grub2 by default?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> pikaren, repos' dont' steal, people steal
[13:00] <cfhowlett> bazkie_bumpercar, grub2
[13:00] <llutz> pikaren: simple, in doubt you cannot trust anyone
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> pikaren  they only steal your identity, not your money
[13:00] <humbolt1> when I have a system installed on a disk with an MBR partition table and I convert that table to GPT, will my system still boot without any additional intervention?!
[13:00] <bazkie_bumpercar> okay thanks cfhowlett :)
[13:00] <LjL> pikaren: pick an OS you feel you can trust. there isn't really a way to *ensure* it's trusted, unless maybe you use one that you compile yourself from almost the ground up (and inspect the entire source code of)
[13:00] <Simpson_2> I'm having issues autostarting postgres 9.1 on system boot, manual start afterwards works fine, it has shared memoery issues it claims. does shared memoery change between boot and running phase ?
[13:01] <LjL> bazkie_bumpercar: LILO
[13:01] <bazkie_bumpercar> lol, hi ljl :D
[13:01] <llutz> pikaren: so either you trust  or you don't use it
[13:01] <cfhowlett> humbolt1, convert:  yes.  without additional intervention?  hopefully, usually, probably, but just in case ... backup
[13:01] <pikaren> and how do we trust the mirrors
[13:01] <llutz> pikaren: same story
[13:01] <humbolt1> cfhowlett: I'll backup the initial MBR and partition layout.
[13:01] <pikaren> maybe some mirrors would inject something
[13:01] <humbolt1> cfhowlett: anything else?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> pikaren, assuming you have a wiki or tutorial.  get lots of rest, ease up on the alcohol/coffee and proceed cautiously.
[13:02] <llutz> pikaren: repos/mirros are signed but you still have to trust. no way around that
[13:02] <humbolt1> cfhowlett: partition GUIDs stay the same I suppose and grub2 should not have any trouble with GPT, or does it?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> pikaren  if they did, everyone would know and anticipate, anticipaten as linux is a glass house
[13:03] <pikaren> so its no different from windows when it comes to security
[13:03] <llutz> pikaren: nope
[13:03] <gordonjcp> pikaren: no, it's entirely different
[13:03] <cfhowlett> humbolt1, I don't have enough knowledge to give an informed answer
[13:03] <gordonjcp> pikaren: if you don't trust the repos, you can compile from source
[13:03] <gordonjcp> pikaren: do you know how public key infrastructure works?
[13:03] <llutz> gordonjcp: you still have to audit the source then
[13:03] <humbolt1> cfhowlett: an educated answer that is.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> pikaren, or go whole hog and roll your own distro
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> pikaren  http://www.zdnet.com/uks-security-branch-says-ubuntu-most-secure-end-user-os-7000025312/
[13:06] <gordonjcp> llutz: yes, you do
[13:08] <treako> hi can any one help me i hav a big question newbe question iam new to linux:)
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> treako  let's hear it
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !details|treako,
[13:09] <treako> i hav two hdd 1 80 g one another 250 gb one i hav partition it into 5 locat discs
[13:09] <raiderturbo> This could be a long story....#
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> treako  RAID?
[13:10] <treako> i want to install ubuntu in one of my lcak discs
[13:10] <treako> but it does not detect it
[13:10] <treako> i made it as unallocated  still i wont detect
[13:11] <treako> i want to install ubuntu 13.10
[13:11] <Ben64> treako: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[13:12] <Speiros> cfhowlett Hello again mate.  No success.  I disabled my hard drive, and had only the usb drive highlighted, but it had the message "XE-E61: Media test failure. check cable", which I reckon it's saying it doesn't recognise my external HD as a USB drive
[13:13] <pranavk_> I want to sign the content of an email with S/MIME using command line tool from linux and then send that email using webclient like gmail. how can i do that ?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Speiros, as it wouldn't.  I thought we were using an actual USB not an external HDD
[13:13] <treako> ben64 ok
[13:13] <Speiros> cfhowlett Ok.  I didn't realise it wouldn't be recognised as a USB drive,
[13:13] <luk_> hi
[13:14] <Speiros> cfhowlett, why is it not, when it plugs in through USB?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Speiros, I can't speak technobabble, so can't explain :)
[13:14] <raiderturbo> Speiros: Which USB HDD do you have? Does it require drivers to work?
[13:14] <Speiros> lol, okay
[13:14] <rigarcia> Need assistance repairing my Ubuntu is this the right channel?
[13:15] <Ben64> rigarcia: most likely
[13:15] <luk_> I have question about "how to manage consistent version of the system across multiple machines" ... it might be little long, I'll try to give an usecase as a example, maybe you will be able do advise me the best approach
[13:15] <raiderturbo> Speiros: ^^
[13:15] <luk_> I don't if it's good place to ask
[13:15] <cfhowlett> rigarcia, 'tis what we do ...
[13:15] <Speiros> raiderturbo I use the USB HDD's on a regular basis as my file systems, and backups, but they seem to work fine.  I don't think they need drivers apart from what they already have...although the information could be on the actual HD of my computer.
[13:16] <rigarcia> Hpw do you repair a bad physical drive with Ubuntu?
[13:16] <libpenguin> how to replace system firefox with new version of firefox downloaded from mozilla.org ?
[13:16] <raiderturbo> Speiros: I missed the first part of your actual question though.. What are you trying to do with the USB HDD?? and what make/model is it?
[13:16] <rigarcia> Imanaged to re-boot the machine with a USB live disk but I'm unable to mount the hard disk
[13:16] <rigarcia> Get this error "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dmesg | tail [  765.596217] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda]   [  765.596222] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed [  765.596225] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] CDB:  [  765.596228] Read(10): 28 00 0e 05 26 cf 00 00 f0 00 [  765.596240] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 235218878 [  765.596251] ata3: EH complete [  765.596310] JBD2: Failed to read block at offset 9455 [  765.596313] JBD2: IO er
[13:17] <waperboy> Can I manually make a driver hook into DKMS, so it rebuilds on kernel updates?
[13:17] <Ben64> rigarcia: sounds like a broken drive, you probably can't do anything for it
[13:17] <luk_> I would like to be able to (re)install the ubuntu server with exact the same version of all packages as I have i.e. on existing machines, i.e. today I install 5 machines and in 3 months time I would like to add additional 1-2 machines, but I would like to have them in exactly the same version as the previous one
[13:17] <TJ-> waperboy: "man dkms" see "dkms add"
[13:17] <luk_> at the same time, from time to time I would like to make an upgrade of machines to the latest version available in public repo
[13:18] <luk_> is it good place to ask? ;)
[13:18] <Speiros> raiderturbo I am trying to use one of them as a USB drive so that I can install the 12.0.4 LTS, as I'm stuck with 10.4, and have a stack of problems.  My USB which is the blank one (I've made it ext4 filing system) is a seagate momentus 5400 250gb
[13:18] <waperboy> TJ- thanks, I'll look into that
[13:18] <rigarcia> Thanks Ben64. In the event that I can't repair the drive is there a way to save some of the files?
[13:18] <libpenguin> !clone
[13:18] <llutz> luk_: if you update your existing machines and don't do a version upgrade, the package versions will be the same.
[13:18] <raiderturbo> Speiros: So you're trying to install Ubuntu on to a USB HDD? Where are you installing it from CD/USB stick?
[13:19] <TJ-> libpenguin: don't install it manually; use the Mozilla PPA
[13:19] <Ben64> rigarcia: look into ddrescue, if anything can be saved, it can do it
[13:19] <Speiros> raiderturbo I also use (this one has my files on it at the present) a Hitachi 120GB drive
[13:19] <libpenguin> TJ-: how ?
[13:19] <rigarcia> Ben64 Thanks. I'll try
[13:19] <llutz> luk_: so backup your packages-list (dpkg --get-selections" and you'll be fine
[13:19] <TJ-> libpenguin: I think its called mozillateam-firefox-next
[13:19] <Ben64> libpenguin: why not use ubuntu's version?
[13:19] <Speiros> raiderturbo From an image on my hard drive.  I loaded it using unetbootin successfully.
[13:19] <luk_> llutz: that simple ... ? ;)
[13:19] <llutz> luk_: yes
[13:20] <libpenguin> Ben64: want to upgrade firefox only,
[13:20] <Speiros> raiderturbo But since doing that, the BIOS tells me that it doesn't see it as a USB
[13:20] <Ben64> libpenguin: ok? so my question still stands. why not use the one in the official ubuntu repositories?
[13:20] <luk_> llutz: what about the availability of the packages ... if I would like to install a new machine in 3 months time ... not all versions may be still avaiable at that time
[13:20] <libpenguin> Ben64: site provides version ahead of repo
[13:21] <Ben64> libpenguin: no it doesn't
[13:21] <luk_> llutz: some packages will come from launchpad
[13:21] <llutz> luk_: check the supportperiod of the distro-version you run
[13:21] <raiderturbo> Speiros: So you have your BIOS set to boot from USB? Can you boot from a USB stick/pendrive?
[13:21] <llutz> luk_: above only applies to official repos, not to ppa etc. those might cause trouble
[13:21] <Speiros> raiderturbo I don't have one.  I had a high failure rate of them when doing studies so I havent used on in years.
[13:22] <Speiros> raiderturbo also, I don't have the means to get one as I have an injury that has disabled me at least temporarily, and haven't been paid in 7 weeks, and will probably still wait another two
[13:22] <libpenguin> Ben64: site version is 26.0
[13:22] <Ben64> libpenguin: so is the version from the ubuntu repositories, whats your point
[13:23] <luk_> llutz: ok, but still I think your point may be valuable ... maybe I could set up i.e. apt-cacher to protect myself from changes in launchpad
[13:23] <raiderturbo> Speiros: Can I ask why you're trying to install to a USB HDD and not on to a fixed HDD? This is very unusual and I'm not sure you're going to be able to do it... I'd say if you can boot from a USB Stick/pendrive but not your USB HDD then it's not going to work. Even if it worked, it would be extremely slow...
[13:23] <libpenguin> Ben64: ok, how to replace it with updated version ?
[13:23] <libpenguin> from repo
[13:23] <Ben64> libpenguin: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:23] <raiderturbo> Speiros: Can you not install to a fixed, internal HDD?
[13:23] <Ben64> raiderturbo: installing to a fixed drive, using an external as the install media
[13:23] <Speiros> raiderturbo I installed Ubuntu 10.10 a long time ago, and it didn't allow functionality, which made my computer totally useless.
[13:24] <libpenguin> Ben64: thats my point, upgrade command will upgrade full system and I wanna update firefox only
[13:24] <Speiros> raiderturbo I don't want to risk losing functionality, so I want to install without having to mess up my hard drive
[13:24] <Ben64> libpenguin: upgrades are there for a reason, you should do them all anyway, but you can select a single package if you wish
[13:25] <libpenguin> Ben64: hmm, ok
[13:25] <Speiros> raiderturbo I am happy for options, but I will mention though the problems that I've encountered over the years.
[13:25] <Speiros> I had four computers at one stage, one of them being a laptop
[13:26] <Speiros> The 10.10 version was useless and stopped that laptop from being useable as certain programs wouldn't function, and there were no alternatives.
[13:26] <Speiros> It was just another can of worms.
[13:26] <Speiros> raiderturbo I am scared to have the same experience with my last computer.
[13:26] <Speiros> especially as I have no means to fix it financially
[13:26] <libpenguin> Ben64: but will it replace the old firefox or old version will be left over and kept along with the new version ?
[13:27] <Ben64> libpenguin: replace, yes
[13:27] <raiderturbo> Speiros: I think your best bet is to boot from USB stick/pendrive as this is much safer. You also shouldn't let past experiences put you off - If you fall off a horse, you should get straight back up and back on the horse...
[13:27] <libpenguin> Ben64: ok, and is it possible to automate firefox plugins installation via script ?
[13:28] <Ben64> Speiros: or burn the iso to a cd
[13:28] <raiderturbo> Speiros: you can get a USB stick for less than $10... (maybe even for free if you ask someone nicely... ;) )
[13:28] <Ben64> libpenguin: no idea
[13:28] <libpenguin> ok
[13:28] <raiderturbo> Speiros: Or, as Ben64 says, boot from a CD...
[13:29] <fpghost84> llutz: could you tell me that sudo command again please (sorry, got lost above). I've now created the uid and gid, so just need the final piece
[13:29] <raiderturbo> Speiros: It does sound like you're not very confident at messing with computers/OS's so I'd stick to what you know for now
[13:29] <llutz> fpghost84: "sudo -g newgroup daemon"  or "-u newuser" (man sudo)
[13:30] <Speiros> Sorry, was afk...
[13:31] <Speiros> raiderturbo Ok, thanks for your input.  Yes, a flash drive would be great for a one-off experience.  See what happens in the future.
[13:32] <fpghost84> llutz: thanks a lot
[13:33] <Speiros> Ben64 Yes, it would be great if my CD would allow me to burn from it.  I have CD's, a functioning DVD burner, but glitches in the system.  Just too long with my hands tied, and now all I have is a mess.
[13:33] <Speiros> Ben64 Thanks for your help on these many occasions too mate.  At least twice, if not three times.
[13:33] <Speiros> Ok, I'm signing out.
[13:34] <Speiros> Ciao
[13:34] <glitsj16> Speiros: do you still have a working ubuntu installation? if so you can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[13:34] <Ben64> what glitches prevent you from burning a cd? that doesn't make any sense
[13:34] <fpghost84> llutz: just to be clear, this daemon is started as a sys v init job, will that command set it to run with that uid/gid every time (not just a one time deal)?
[13:35] <llutz> fpghost84: no you have to modifiy the startup-script
[13:35] <fpghost84> llutz: ah
[13:35] <llutz> fpghost84: /etc/init.d/yourdaemon
[13:35] <Speiros> glitsj16 I guess I can have one more look at something.  The problem is there are clusters of problems that are a universe of that song "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza", and it's horrible as I hate these situations.  I'll probably start down that line, but these other errors will come up.
[13:35] <Speiros> The only option really is attempt the USB installation from the flash drive, or a disk.
[13:36] <Speiros> Ok, thanks anyway.  I'm gone.
[13:36] <Speiros> glitsj16 Thanks too, I will have a look at your suggestion mate.
[13:36] <fpghost84> llutz: yeah the script in /etc/init.d is the one provided by the daemon, the relevant bits for startup are simply "/usr/local/sbin/daemon -q"
[13:37] <CVirus> if I have an x% horizontal/vertical split in byobu .. can't I set a hotkey to maximize this split and de-maximize it ?
[13:38] <Sik> Repeating: using Ubuntu 13.04 x64 here, I'm trying to use Anthy but it outright doesn't work (it hangs in some Python process). I'm having this issue since 12.04. Any ideas? I seriously need this to be fixed since I need to test IME support in a program I'm making. ← Also just tried reinstalling, doesn't work :(
[13:38] <fpghost84> llutz: can I not just change the bin file itself? some set the uid gid of the binary?
[13:39] <llutz> fpghost84: depends on the binary afaik, just try it
[13:39] <giampi61> hello
[13:40] <cfhowlett> giampi61, greetings
[13:42] <giampi61> cfhowlett,  hello
[13:42] <giampi61> In Ubuntu 12.04 I gave the string; sudo apt-get install acrored, you have installed Adobe reader 9. And 'possible to have it in Italian?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> giampi61, acroread or the messages?
[13:44] <giampi61> cfhowlett,  acroread to read pdf files
[13:45] <cfhowlett> giampi61, it should display your sytem language.  try log out, log in
[13:46] <giampi61> cfhowlett,  how to do?
[13:46] <TJ-> giampi61: "apt-cache show acroread | grep English" :  "This package provides the English version of Adobe Reader 9."
[13:48] <giampi61> TJ-,   and to have it in Italian?
[13:49] <TJ-> giampi61: I don't know, that packages comes from the partner repository, so you'd have to ask Adobe
[13:52] <Guest41894> hi everyone
[13:53] <Guest41894> any idea what this process is supposed to be?
[13:53] <Guest41894> /usr/bin/X:0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 nolisten tcp vt7 novtswitch -background none
[13:53] <Guest41894> it is overloading my CPU
[13:55] <Left_Turn> adduser user group   (if the group given doesnt exist, does it get created? i guess i could try and see)
[13:55] <glitsj16> Sik: as your 13.04 will be end-of-life next week and you'll need to look at upgrading anyway, it might be worth a shot trying to check if a 13.10 liveCD/USB offers a solution .. just a suggestion
[13:56] <hikenboot> hello can anyone tell me what the success rate of getting ubuntu working on powerpc? G5 tower?
[13:57] <raiderturbo> hikenboot: about the same as any other OS or PC?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> !ppc | hikenboot
[13:57] <raiderturbo> hikenboot: Have you checked all of your hardware is supported?
[13:58] <hikenboot> raidturbo what hardware in particular its an out of the box g5 tower circa 2008 I believe?
[13:58] <Sik> glitsj16: disc drive doesn't work and I don't have a large enough pendrive (or free pendrive, for that matter) - and yes, I'm aware that it's likely that reinstalling the OS will fix it, but I don't want to reinstall the entire thing :P
[13:59] <raiderturbo> hikenboot: You'll need to check the manufacturer specs. I don't know much about them...
[13:59] <hikenboot> ok well thanks for the pointers
[13:59] <raiderturbo> hikenboot: This is probably your best bet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[14:00] <Sik> glebihan: also wait, doesn't 14.04 get released in April, not next week?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> Sik  .04 means the 4th month, april
[14:00] <glitsj16> Sik: i understand, what about adding a 13.10 iso to your existing grub and booting it to test before upgrading? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:02] <Sik> glitsj16 (just realized I should press tab twice): I guess I'll just update to 13.10 now (messing with GRUB is asking to brick the system)...
[14:02] <Sik> bbl
[14:05] <raiderturbo> Anyone using PS3 Media Server to stream to a Samsung TV?
[14:05] <pmitros> When I try to do an apt-get update, it complains about obsolete source (/dists/oneiric/free/binary-amd64/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.medibuntu.org:http' (-11 - System error)
[14:06] <pmitros> But medibuntu is not in my sources.list
[14:06] <pmitros> Any clue where it might be looking for it?
[14:07] <glitsj16> pmitros: medibuntu is officially dead, you might still have an entree for it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d maybe?
[14:07] <pmitros> glistsj16: Ah. Missed that there was now a .d now. Thank you. That's where it is.
[14:08] <color_fish> I need help on remastersys
[14:08] <color_fish> can any one help me
[14:08] <color_fish> please
[14:09] <glitsj16> pmitros: another thing, seeing that you have oneirc in that error line, what version are you running? oneirc has lost support too..
[14:09] <Left_Turn> where's the option for password..  adduser --system [options] [--home DIR] [--shell  SHELL]  [--no-create-       home]  [--uid  ID]  [--group | --ingroup GROUP | --gid ID] [--disabled-       password] [--disabled-login] [--gecos GECOS] user
[14:10] <CVirus> How can I maximize a split in byobu ?
[14:10] <pmitros> glitsj16: System is up to raring. I just finally decided to clean out cruft.
[14:10] <glitsj16> pmitros: ahh okay .. but that ends its support life in about a week too :p
[14:11] <pmitros> Oh. Suck.
[14:11] <glitsj16> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, i read somewhere it will be end-of-life january 27
[14:12] <glitsj16> so you still have afew days to ponder on what to do
[14:12] <pmitros> I miss Debian's 2-year release cycles.
[14:13] <pmitros> Well, the choice is clearly to upgrade.
[14:13] <glitsj16> or reinstall precise 12.04 LTS and enjoy a stable system for another 3 years
[14:14] <pmitros> Wouldn't work. The Ubuntu 6-month release cycle means that half of the things I work on rely on something Ubuntu added since.
[14:15] <dominic__> I have just finished creating a remastersys backup iso. When I test it on qemu, it boots fine but when i use 'dd' program to make usb bootable it dosent boot on real hardware. In a nushell when i created the iso from with chroot it wasnt able to boot on real hardware but on virtualized hardware
[14:15] <dominic__> i am now dominic__
[14:15] <pmitros> I'd much rather be running an LTS if not for compatibility issues.
[14:16] <pmitros> (To be fair, it's a very mild annoyance compared to all of the benefits of Ubuntu). Thanks for the reminder to upgrade.
[14:17] <glitsj16> pmitros: lots of PPA's available for precise, but that's something you'll need to research before going that route, you're welcome
[14:18] <dominic__> can any body help me with this
[14:19] <dominic__> I have just finished creating a remastersys backup iso. When I test it on qemu, it boots fine but when i use 'dd' program to make usb bootable it dosent boot on real hardware. In a nushell when i created the iso from with chroot it wasnt able to boot on real hardware but on virtualized hardware
[14:19] <dominic__> how can i make it boot on real hardware
[14:20] <dominic__> I have just finished creating a remastersys backup iso. When I test it on qemu, it boots fine but when i use 'dd' program to make usb bootable it dosent boot on real hardware. In a nushell when i created the iso from with chroot it wasnt able to boot on real hardware but on virtualized hardware
[14:20] <TJ-> dominic_: Is it a true hybrid ISO with El Torito boot image(s)
[14:21] <TJ-> dominic_: or is it a hard disk image with a MBR and partitions?
[14:22] <TJ-> dominic_: Then, on the real hardware, is the mobo firmware UEFI or BIOS? if UEFI, have you mastered the ISO image to include an EFI SP and bootx64.efi, and included grub-efi ?
[14:22] <dominic__> BIOS please
[14:23] <dominic__> before anything could you explain  hybrid ISO with El Torito boot image(s)
[14:23] <AltRnativ> Salut!!
[14:24] <TJ-> dominic_: If you're mastering ISOs these are all things you should know about already... they're key to making bootable ISOs
[14:25] <dominic__> alright. I guess I have to read about those first. :)
[14:37] <color_fish> help anyone I have a remastersys problem
[14:37] <color_fish> I have just finished creating a remastersys backup iso. When I test it on qemu, it boots fine but when i use 'dd' program to make usb bootable it dosent boot on real hardware. In a nushell when i created the iso from with chroot it wasnt able to boot on real hardware but on virtualized hardware
[14:38] <color_fish> help please
[14:40] <color_fish> help anyone I have a remastersys problem
[14:45] <Sik> Are the servers down? Because I can't update to 13.10 because it can't even download the files
[14:46] <Sik> And yes I checked and I can connect just fine to other places
[14:48] <marcneedshelp> hey! I've searched forums and all of their advice hasn't made a difference. I'm trying to install the latest ubuntu onto an acer aspire one notebook via usb (there's no CD/DVD drive)
[14:48] <marcneedshelp> however I get the decompilation or disassembly prohibited error
[14:48] <marcneedshelp> any suggestions?
[14:50] <Guest72855> hi everyone, just trying xubuntu xchat
[14:50] <Guest72855> looks cool.
[14:52] <st0> marcneedshelp, please check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1733720
[14:53] <treako> hi i tried to install ubuntu 13.10 on my 2nt harddisk unallocated space 86gb but wen on installation screen it dosnt show my 86gb
[14:54] <marcneedshelp> thanks st0 for the link. I've already read that one and installing to usb using yumi didn't work
[14:54] <marcneedshelp> neither did not entirely sure what Jolicloud
[14:54] <marcneedshelp> is
[14:56] <treako> any help for me
[14:56] <treako> ???
[14:57] <marcolino7>  /budus save
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[14:59] <FiremanEd> marcolino7: Please don't spam
[15:00] <Munster> marcneedshelp,, try disabling secure boot for starters
[15:00] <marcolino7> sorry
[15:00] <gregor3005> hi, i have a problem during my tests between the different nvidia drivers. i installed the official one and changed the settings with nvidia-settings with root right and stored the xorg.conf. after reboot the xorg.conf is ignored :-( i use xfce a wm
[15:01] <marcneedshelp> munster: there's not a secure boot option in the bios...
[15:01] <gregor3005> in the xorg log i found a line that the xorg.conf is used
[15:02] <gregor3005> hm, there are many files under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[15:03] <Munster> marcneedshelp, no secure boot in configuration, or security tabs?
[15:04] <marcneedshelp> aha think i've got somehere now... I download the beta version of ubuntu and then installed that onto a usb using Jolicloud usb installer
[15:04] <zryan> not install Facebook video calling for Firefox for Windows, in Wine
[15:05] <zryan> not install Facebook video calling for Firefox for Windows, in Wine
[15:06] <treako> pls help me
[15:06] <zryan> not install plug in Facebook video calling for Firefox for Windows, in Wine
[15:06] <pabloGNU> Hi to all
[15:06] <pabloGNU> i'm trying to make a fresh install of ubuntu 13.10
[15:07] <yash_7118> cant install flash player in firefox for windows using wine
[15:07] <pabloGNU> but when i run the installer the hdmi signal is not available
[15:07] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:07] <zryan> not install plug in Facebook video calling for Firefox for Windows, in Wine
[15:07] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:08] <Munster> marcneedshelp, whynot use startup disk creator, worked very well here
[15:08] <yash_7118> help me
[15:08] <treako> startup disk creator?????
[15:09] <zryan> not install plug in Facebook video calling for Firefox for Windows, in Wine
[15:09] <Munster> treako, wasn't directing that suggestion to you
[15:10] <DJones> zryan: You're probably best asking that question in ##winehq which is the specialised support channel for wine issues
[15:10] <treako> pls help me
[15:10] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:10] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:11] <xangua> yash_7118: you can install adobe flashplugin from repository just fine, why wine¿
[15:11] <marcneedshelp> munster the startup disk creator didn't work either. the bios kept seing the usb as an USB FDD as opposed to an USB HDD
[15:11] <pabloGNU> solved nomodeset
[15:11] <Karty> \join #metasploit
[15:11] <pabloGNU> thanks for all
[15:12] <xavious> Greetings
[15:14] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:14] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:14] <treako> help
[15:14] <treako> plssss
[15:15] <Munster> marcneedshelp, did you format to fat32 before putting the image on the USB ?
[15:17] <xavious> I'm trying to figure out how to get libdvdcss2 installed. All the tutorials make it a cakewalk so I feel rather idiotic. Perhaps I am.
[15:18] <Munster> xavious,from the vlc site?
[15:19] <xavious> That is where I last was, yes.
[15:19] <eicoolguy6> hello
[15:19] <eicoolguy6> i need some help
[15:20] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:20] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:20] <eicoolguy6_> can someone help me?
[15:21] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, ask your question
[15:22] <eicoolguy6_> so i installed ubuntu, and after having many problems with drivers i fixed it, but now i cant change my resolution out of  640x480
[15:23] <eicoolguy6_> so i installed ubuntu, and after having many problems with drivers i fixed it, but now i cant change my resolution out of  640x480
[15:24] <eicoolguy6_> did you see my message?
[15:25] <eicoolguy6_> hello? can anyone answer my question?
[15:29] <kostkon> !patience | eicoolguy6_
[15:31] <xavious> I suppose I could figure out the libdvdcss2 install if I knew how to friggin edit the repositories or source.list
[15:31] <eradicor> I've recently installed new Geforce GFX card, and it seems something went haywire. It has hdmi audio .. something, and i killed off my ability to select audio input device , so i can use microphone for say steam.
[15:32] <kostkon> !dvd | xavious
[15:32] <eradicor> I cant select any input device as there does not seem to be anymore any.
[15:32] <eradicor> What should i do?
[15:32] <kostkon> xavious, just run the install-css.sh script
[15:35] <Thubo> Can you run alsamixer from the terminal and try to select your sound source there? | eradicor
[15:37] <eradicor> Thubo, i can run it sure, but i am not seeing any option how to select input source
[15:38] <eradicor> ah..  well the input source gives me 3 options
[15:38] <eradicor> front and back mic.. and line
[15:38] <Thubo> alsamixer from terminal -> F6 select sound card
[15:38] <eradicor> 2 options, nvidia and intel
[15:39] <Thubo> try to select intel (which i assume is your onboard device) and try it with this configuration
[15:39] <eicoolguy6_> so i installed ubuntu, and after having many problems with drivers i fixed it, but now i cant change my resolution out of  640x480. so what do i do to change it?
[15:39] <eradicor> Thubo, and what of the input sources?
[15:39] <eradicor> Front, back or line?
[15:39] <eradicor> what do they even mean
[15:40] <Thubo> ohmm - i would guess back or line but I can not say for sure. It means which physical input source you want to select
[15:40] <eradicor> the default physical mic slot is in use.
[15:40] <eradicor> Not sure how it relates to these though.
[15:41] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:41] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:42] <Thubo> hmm you will probably have to try all of them and check which one is working
[15:42] <xavious> Alrighty. Got the libdvdcss2 installed. Now onto k3b operation...now it has a transcode error. Download location anyone?
[15:45] <sebokie> hell
[15:45] <sebokie> hello
[15:45] <sebokie> how can I force the removal of a library on which other packages depend?
[15:45] <eicoolguy6_> so i installed ubuntu, and after having many problems with drivers i fixed it, but now i cant change my resolution out of  640x480. what can i do?
[15:46] <treako> i try to install ubuntu 13.10 but cant get my 86 gig of un allocated space to detect
[15:46] <treako> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WuJuN7p2iha0ZwbXk1cXM2SzA/edit?usp=sharing
[15:47] <Thubo> Try to put more information to your question...What hardware, what driver problems, how did you fix what? | eicoolguy6_
[15:48] <Munster> xavious, read here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[15:48] <eicoolguy6_> i have an nividia 640m in my laptop. when i installed ubuntu, it would always boot into a black screen. I put the 'nomodset' parameter into the GRUB, and that let me boot and install the driver.
[15:48] <eicoolguy6_> the driver for my graphics card
[15:48] <eicoolguy6_> now i can't change out of 640x480 resolutions
[15:49] <viktor_> hello!
[15:49] <eradicor> Thubo, well i managed to get input device back to the list. but ..  what is pulseaudio? and alsa .. etc ?  Why do i get the feeling there are two difference audio systems next to each other
[15:50] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, now that you have the driver installed remove the nomodeset and update-grub, then a reboot
[15:50] <Thubo> which drivers did you install? The nvidia drivers shipped with ubuntu or generic ones? What resolutions does 'xrandr -q' give you? | eicoolguy6_
[15:51] <Thubo> ...or try what Munster suggested ;) | eicoolguy6_
[15:51] <eicoolguy6_> how do i update my grub? sorry. this is literally my first time using linux
[15:52] <Thubo> remove the nomodeset with sudo vi /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub
[15:52] <eicoolguy6_> in the terminal?
[15:52] <viktor_> Can sombodey help me? I create multy boot usb.. and in one moment i reinstall grub and have "grub no such device ... ".
[15:53] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, how did you remove nomodeset?
[15:53] <eicoolguy6_> i didn't.
[15:53] <eicoolguy6_> i wanted to know how to update grub before doing that
[15:53] <Thubo> Both provide a sound server so applications can play sounds - I have both installed in parallel and it is no problem here, but I cannot vouch for that | eradicor
[15:53] <Munster> ok follow Thubo's suggestion, eicoolguy6_'
[15:54] <eradicor> the stupidist thing is.. in most cases i can get steam to send sound as it should, but it ignores "push-to-talk"
[15:54] <eicoolguy6_> how do i remove nomodset though
[15:54] <Thubo> yes, from the terminal. Vi is an editor to edit files, if you dont now how to use it you can also run sudo nano /etc/default/grub | eicoolguy6_
[15:55] <Munster> it's in grub , l;ook for the line "quiet splash" , eicoolguy6_ it will be there
[15:55] <eicoolguy6_> okay
[15:56] <sere> 14:51 -|- - *****ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZDZXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[15:56] <sere> sorry
[15:56] <eicoolguy6_> there is no 'nomodset'
[15:57] <eicoolguy6_> just quiet splash. i think when i put it in the grub it was a temporary things
[15:57] <certifiednoob> Hey noob here want help with hybrid graphics,  pls tell me how to turn off egpu, and keep only igpu for rendering. This is my first time with linux so sorry for asking i suppose we can echo OFF into some config file to achieve this, need some pointers
[15:57] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, ok you used it when intalling the OS then , correct?
[15:58] <eicoolguy6_> no. after i installed the os and after selecting to boot into ubuntu it would just load a black screen
[16:00] <Thubo> Where did you set the nomodeset parameter then? Temporarily during every boot? | eicoolguy6_
[16:01] <eicoolguy6_> when loading i pressed shift to load the GRUB menu. then i pressed e on the ubuntu to edit it and put the nomodset parameter after the quiet splash. i only had to do it once though
[16:01] <certifiednoob> Hey guys any help for my query is much appreciated :/
[16:02] <Munster> ok , then you didn't update grub afterwards to solidify the setting, eicoolguy6_
[16:02] <eicoolguy6_> no
[16:02] <eicoolguy6_> i just passed the parameter for the one time so i was able to install the nvidia drivers
[16:03] <fris> i recently update apache 2.2 that came with 12.04 to apache 2.4 with a ppa, now im trying to install apache2-dev and i get apache2-dev : Depends: libaprutil1-dev but it is not going to be installed, when i try and install libaprutil1-dev i get other depends which cant be installed
[16:03] <xavious> Seems every outlet that may have a solution will not load up for whatever eason. Has something to do with my connection. Anyone have the method to correct the K3B DVD transcode error?
[16:05] <Munster> hmm, now , alt+F2, type in "additional drivers" do you see any available?
[16:05] <Munster> eicoolguy6_,^
[16:05] <eicoolguy6_> with the qutation marks?
[16:05] <Munster> no
[16:06] <eicoolguy6_> no
[16:06] <eicoolguy6_> there are none
[16:07] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, what about software sources?
[16:07] <eicoolguy6_> huh?
[16:07] <eicoolguy6_> whats that?
[16:08] <Munster> in the panel on the left if you're on unity, eicoolguy6_
[16:08] <eicoolguy6_> um no
[16:09] <eicoolguy6_> like the sidebar with the applications on it?
[16:10] <Munster> yes
[16:10] <eicoolguy6_> no. there is no software sources
[16:10] <eicoolguy6_> there is the ubuntu software center, if thats what you mean
[16:11] <Munster>  Edit menu Software Centre
[16:12] <eicoolguy6_> okay
[16:12] <eicoolguy6_> i have it open
[16:13] <sebokie> is there a way to make aptitude isgnore missing dependencies
[16:13] <sebokie> ?
[16:13] <Guest63997> Hi, I was wonder if any would be able to help with some performance issues I am having with Java on Ubuntu 13.10. I would like to transition my Android development from WIndows to Ubuntu. Unfortunately whenever I build or test our android application I find that it takes way too long (2-3x longer than Windows 7). When I look at the system monitor I can see that the processors are idling at around 10% when executing the build commands in a terminal? How c
[16:15] <eicoolguy6_> i have the software sources window open
[16:15] <Munster> look for additional drivers
[16:19] <eicoolguy6_> no
[16:19] <eicoolguy6_> there are no additional drivers
[16:20] <certifiednoob> Okay guys i found what I was looking for
[16:20] <certifiednoob> Bye
[16:21] <tonyt> glad i could help
[16:21] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, have you updated and upgraded since the installation?
[16:21] <eicoolguy6_> no
[16:21] <eicoolguy6_> i just installed like 11 last night
[16:22] <kendrick_> Hey in Ubuntu 8 my wired connection works but in 10 and 13 doesn't work at all.
[16:22] <kendrick_> Anyone have any clues of what's happening?
[16:23] <Munster> eicoolguy6_, no matter, update and upgrade will probly help
[16:23] <eicoolguy6_> how do i do that?
[16:23] <jamesaxl> hi Mr james
[16:23] <jamesaxl> hi Mr james :)
[16:24] <Thubo> can you run the following command from the terminal and give us the output? dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ,eicoolguy6_
[16:26] <eicoolguy6_> ii  nvidia-319                                  319.32-0ubuntu0.0.1                     NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii  nvidia-319-updates                          319.32-0ubuntu0.0.1                     NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii  nvidia-common                               1:0.2.44.2                              Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii  nvidia-prime      
[16:27] <jamesaxl> hi jeejee :)
[16:27] <Munster> bbl
[16:28] <eicoolguy6_> what is bbl?
[16:29] <daftykins> eicoolguy6_: 'be back later'
[16:29] <eicoolguy6_> ah
[16:29] <eicoolguy6_> thanks
[16:30] <Thubo> eicoolguy6_, that actually looks alright. You can run and update/upgrade with following command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:33] <eicoolguy6_> its running through it now
[16:36] <medfly> I am trying to install a package and in any way I do it it complains I use amd64 and not i386. is there any way around it
[16:36] <kostkon> medfly, which one
[16:37] <Munster> I'm mostly a KDE user , but I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 on my other pc, so I had to leave for a couple mins
[16:37] <medfly> kostkon: Skype (latest version)
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Munster  mind: 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[16:39] <Munster> MonkeyDust, , not lookingh for 14.04 suppoert atm , if I need it i'll ask there, since I'm already joined :)
[16:40] <medfly> oh, I can --force-architecture, that's nice
[16:40] <eicoolguy6_> okay. it stopped. now what?
[16:41] <Thubo> did you get any errors? If not reboot and maybe your lucky and its working already... | eicoolguy6_
[16:41] <eicoolguy6_> nope. no errors
[16:42] <eicoolguy6_> okay. ill restart. ill get back to you in a few min
[16:43] <medfly> well I can't override this... I have an older version of some of the dependencies
[16:45] <Roey> hi.  Why is SSH filtered for me?  Is it anything in this table, or is it past this computer?  http://pastebin.com/nCXnaPUt
[16:45] <glitsj16> medfly: on what version of ubuntu are you trying to install skype? and are you using the repo version or the one from the skype website?
[16:46] <Roey> howdy medfly :-)
[16:47] <medfly> glitsj16: 11.04. I tried a few of the website versions
[16:49] <medfly> the repo one works, it just doesn't work with users who use a newer version
[16:49] <glitsj16> medfly: hmm, 11.04 is end-of-life since quite a bit, so those repos won't be updated any longer to get possible dependencies for the 12.04 version skype offers by default
[16:50] <medfly> well, ok
[16:50] <medfly> I have noticed
[16:50] <the8thbit> How do I install mono for wine?
[16:50] <the8thbit> the newest version
[16:50] <the8thbit> it seems like google is giving me outdated or conflicting info
[16:51] <Eicoolguy6_> I'm back. I'm on my iPod. I got the black screen again
[16:51] <medfly> thanks
[16:52] <glitsj16> medfly: which dependencies did it report as missing? make a paste so we can see if it is feasible to get those or that you'll have to look at upgrading
[16:53] <kendrick_> My wires connection isn't working.
[16:54] <Eicoolguy6_> I have a black screen again.
[16:56] <Munster> Eicoolguy6_, then the nvidia-319 driver isn't right for your setup, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-319 && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[16:58] <glitsj16> the8thbit: have you checked winehq's wiki yet? should offer info on what you need
[16:59] <the8thbit> glitsj16: thanks, and nvm, I had an old version installed
[17:01] <bigbadben> Any one know of a way to update to eclipse 4.0?
[17:01] <Eicoolguy6_> I get the Ubuntu screen with the 5 dots and then the dots turn orange then it takes me to a black screen. I can however use the ctrl+alt+(f1-f6)
[17:02] <Guest63997> bigbadben: I would just download 4.x from eclipse.
[17:02] <Guest63997> s website*
[17:03] <Guest63997> bigbadben: Fairly sure you can't just upgrade 3.x to 4.x using the update site.
[17:05] <Guest63997> I was wondering if anyone might be able to help with the question I asked earlier, if that is okay?
[17:06] <xavious> Back after a while of trying. Still no luck obtaining transcoding files for K3B DVD functions.
[17:06] <gordonjcp> !ask | Guest63997
[17:06] <Eicoolguy6_> Wha does KVM: disabled my bios mean
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest63997  hit the up key, to repeat the question
[17:06] <gordonjcp> Eicoolguy6_: it means that virtualisation has been disabled in the BIOS
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest63997  and choose a more readable nickname, use /nick blah
[17:06] <Guest63997> Oh okay. Thank you, I didn't know if repeating the question was allowed.
[17:07] <rpibtle> hi, anyone have experience with bluez 5.0?
[17:08] <newtothis> Hi, I was wonder if any would be able to help with some performance issues I am having with Java on Ubuntu 13.10. I would like to transition my Android development from WIndows to Ubuntu. Unfortunately whenever I build or test our android application I find that it takes way too long (2-3x longer than Windows 7). When I look at the system monitor I can see that the processors are idling at around 10% when executing the build commands in a terminal? How ca
[17:09] <daftykins> newtothis: is this with Oracle's java installed?
[17:10] <newtothis> I have tried the Oracle JDK 32 and 64bit versions
[17:10] <newtothis> It seemed to make no difference.
[17:10] <daftykins> newtothis: your avenue for support is really them rather than the OS you're on.
[17:10] <newtothis> The OpenJDK was just as slow.
[17:11] <the8thbit> Hey, I need to remove ppa:fajran/opencl/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages because I'm getting a 404 error when I try to update, but I don't know what to supply as the actual name of the ppa
[17:11] <the8thbit> same for the i386 version of that PPA
[17:12] <newtothis> The trouble is this seems to only affect Ubuntu. On all other OSs and even other linux distros (Fedora) we are experiencing much faster build times.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> the8thbit  look in the software sources
[17:12] <the8thbit> MonkeyDust: Can you walk me through that?
[17:13] <daftykins> newtothis: then why not use what works?
[17:13] <the8thbit> MonkeyDust: Or do you just mean to look at whats in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: What IDE are you using? sounds like a configuration issue
[17:14] <the8thbit> whoops, nevermind
[17:14] <the8thbit> I looked through my sources earlier and didn't see it
[17:14] <the8thbit> but now I see it
[17:14] <the8thbit> lol
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> the8thbit  found the correct name?
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: ppa:fajran/opencl would be the ppa name
[17:15] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: Eclipse 3.8 however most of the profiling I have done has been through ant at the terminal.
[17:15] <the8thbit> yep
[17:15] <the8thbit> thanks both of you
[17:16] <the8thbit> hitsujiTMO: Also, my battery issue fixed itself ;)
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> the8thbit: lol. weird.
[17:16] <the8thbit> hitsujiTMO: Yep, hopefully its not foreshadowing
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: maybe check the channels related to them. I'm sure others would have come accross the same issue and come up with a solution
[17:17] <newtothis> daftykins: It would be nice to use the same OS for server work as well.
[17:18] <Putti> Hi! could somebody confirm that if I type "apt-get upgrade" on terminal is the same thing as I would download updates to ubuntu when the pop up window comes and suggest to install updates?
[17:18] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: I don't really know where I should be looking. Do you mean android development channels?
[17:18] <daftykins> newtothis: Perhaps you can find an android development community that can advise as to correct settings to help matters. Or even try the android documentation itself.
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: yes and eclipse channels. It sounds like a config difference specific to ubuntu. Like you're only compiling with a single core where others are compiling with multicore, etc...
[17:20] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: Hmm... maybe. The thing I find odd is that the CPU never spikes above 10% on any of the cores.
[17:20] <nathan_> hi guys, wonder if any of you can help me. ive just done a fresh install and am getting a TOTAL crash a few minutes after boot, just posted this to the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[17:20] <glitsj16> Putti: yes, they are the same
[17:20] <nathan_> there are links to the screen im getting in the post
[17:21] <Putti> glitsj16: thanks!
[17:21] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: I've never seen that before. I am struggling with this issue and  was thinking about getting an open source application and profiling build performance to give myself more creditability.
[17:21] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the help btw.
[17:21] <ulkesh> nathan_: That's a link to the forum, not the post
[17:21] <ok> #ubuntu
[17:21] <nathan_> damn, your right, one sec
[17:21] <Guest56230> nickname markeylia
[17:22] <nathan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200439 thats better #totalfail :/
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: for eclipse channels checkout http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC for android channels http://developer.android.com/support.html    More than likely someone here will have run into a similar issue
[17:22] <Guest56230> hello
[17:22] <in7rude> Hi
[17:22] <Xuisce> hi Guest56230
[17:22] <Guest56230> how change name
[17:22] <Xuisce> Guest56230:  /nick newnickhere
[17:22] <Xuisce> :)
[17:23] <markeylia> thx
[17:23] <Xuisce> np
[17:23] <markeylia> my name is markeylia
[17:23] <Xuisce> ok
[17:23] <Xuisce> nice to meet you markeylia
[17:23] <Xuisce> :)
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: you should look into manually building too, learn the stack so you can optimise to your liking
[17:23] <Xuisce> welcoem to Ubuntu
[17:23] <Xuisce> welcome*
[17:23] <FloodBot1> Xuisce: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <markeylia> i am new pep
[17:24] <Left_Turn> $ sudo cd home
[17:24] <Left_Turn> sudo: cd: command not found
[17:24] <markeylia> empathy no irc
[17:24] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: Not sure what you mean. I am sort of manually building the application by using our own ant build script.
[17:24] <ochobitsunbyte> hi guys
[17:24] <markeylia> china ubuntu #?????
[17:25] <markeylia> no english
[17:25] <DJones> !cn | markeylia
[17:25] <Terces> quick question...where is my root file system located on a server install?
[17:25] <nathan_> ulkesh i dont know if you checked the post or not, I dont seem to be able to find any crash logs anywhere, is that something you can help with?
[17:25] <markeylia> thx
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> newtothis: ahh cool. I'm not familiar with java stack myself, I'm a python + JS and write my own build tools.
[17:26] <ulkesh> nathan_: i'm sorry, I haven't looked yet, I'm not too helpful concerning drivers though, i just wanted to make sure you got the right link in here in case someone can help
[17:26] <newtothis> hitsujiTMO: Ah okay. Yeah java stack mainly has ant, maven and grails as build tools.
[17:26] <nathan_> @ulkesh no problem, thanks! :)
[17:28] <sway> hi
[17:28] <honeybuntu> Is there any truth to creating a separate partition to house the "Home" folder  outside the ext4 partition which houses ubuntu 12.04LTS's filesystem?
[17:29] <omar_> do you have any games for linux?
[17:29] <ulkesh> honeybuntu: truth?  i would say there's considerable value in keeping /home in a separate partition
[17:29] <O> hallo
[17:29] <honeybuntu> What are the advantages of doing so, if  this is possible? any benefits associated with that methodology?
[17:30] <markeylia> #ubuntu -tw
[17:30] <ulkesh> honeybuntu: well for one thing, all your preferences for your user is preserved during OS upgrades/reinstallation, all your downloads/pictures/app prefs/etc
[17:31] <honeybuntu> -->ulkesh. So it is possible.
[17:31] <honeybuntu> is there a reco'd thread for such procedure?
[17:32] <ulkesh> honeybuntu: sorry, i don't know of any specific thread
[17:33] <honeybuntu> -->ulkesh, thank you for indicating the capability of implementing this ubuntu 12.04LTS setup methodology and its advantages.
[17:34] <ulkesh> honeybuntu: not sure i was much help, but i know it's possible since i'm doing it :)  good luck!
[17:34] <honeybuntu> Certainly the added partition must be formatted with the ext4 journalizing filesystem format.
[17:34] <taylanub> Automatic updates made the wireless card stop being detected.  How to solve ?
[17:34] <ulkesh> honeybuntu: that would be ideal, yes
[17:34] <taylanub> Also, this is *really* embarrassing for a distribution claiming to be user friendly, do something about your quality control or whatever please.
[17:35] <kheeper> hello everyone … I have a question if I need to find a file like `find / -name some.conf` because I have more of distributions it found /etc/some.conf /media/1/etc/some.conf /media/2/etc/some.conf … it's there way not look to /media folder
[17:36] <omar_> do you have any games for linux?
[17:36] <glitsj16> honeybuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving has a nice run-down of the procedure
[17:36] <taylanub> kheeper: Your English is very bad but if I got your question right, "find / -name media -prune -o -name some.conf" should do.
[17:36] <honeybuntu> the additional ext4 partition that would house the /home directory should follow the ext4 ubuntu 12.04LTS filesystem partition and the last partition would accomodate the linux swap space?
[17:37] <minix> kheeper, use -not -path
[17:37] <omar_> thanks
[17:37] <ulkesh> glitsj16: thanks, that's great info!
[17:37] <honeybuntu> ahh, thank you kindly ulkesh and glitsj16 for your knowledge, assistance & patience. Knowledge=invaluable.
[17:38] <minix> find -name *.js' -not -path './directory/*'
[17:38] <taylanub> minix: Probably going to be much slower than using -prune.
[17:38] <minix> kheeper, find -name "*.js-not -path "./directory/*"
[17:38] <glitsj16> no problem
[17:38] <honeybuntu> Going ,  immediately to parse the supplied URL (thread)
[17:39] <minix> taylanub, -prune does not exclude the directory itself, it exclude its content, which means you are going to get an unwanted line in the output with the excluded directory
[17:39] <taylanub> minix: No you're not, because the name 'media' is not 'some.conf'.
[17:41] <taylanub> Anyone know where I can find the correct wireless drivers or whatever for this one laptop ?  After automatic updates the wifi refuses to activate and "iwconfig" output shows no wireless interface.
[17:41] <minix> taylanub, have you tried google?
[17:42] <taylanub> Doing that in parallel.  Help would be greatly appreciated because it's annoying as hell having to deal with such a giant bug.
[17:43] <shiestie> taylanub, were the drivers working for wireless before update?
[17:46] <taylanub> shiestie: Everything was working fine.
[17:49] <glitsj16> taylanub: if you pastebin the output of "lspci -nnk | grep Network -A 2" on paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL people here can offer more help
[17:50] <imghost> taylanub, built in wifi?, usb?
[17:52] <taylanub> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]  Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:18ec]
[17:53] <taylanub> Aha, rflink says it's hardblocked.
[17:54] <taylanub> Well lifting that didn't help.  (Had tried the WLAN button a couple times already, was just left in off state coincidentally.)
[17:56] <imghost> !who | taylanub
[17:56] <phuh> Dear Ubuntu Masters: How can I `ufw reset` without generating backup files?
[17:57] <taylanub> I wasn't speaking to anyone in particular, imghost.
[17:59] <imghost> taylanub, was it working before the update?
[17:59] <taylanub> imghost: As both my question obviously implies, and I already said above, yes.
[18:01] <taylanub> Looks like I have /lib/firmware/rt3290.bin actually.
[18:02] <imghost> taylanub, havent read your previous posts, open software centre and type bcmwl-kernel-source if its installed then purge it by using sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source because it might be conflicting two modules
[18:03] <Lucid_Lynx> Hi, i type `ifdown wlan0´ and it disconnects, but just seconds later it keeps reconnecting itself to the Wlan-Router, how do i prevent the automatic reconnecting from Command-line-interface ?
[18:04] <jamesaxl> 3:)
[18:04] <phuh> Dear Ubuntu Masters: How can I `ufw reset` without generating backup files?
[18:04] <honeybuntu> -->glitsj16  That url was a highly beneficial read. I stumbled upon another re: fstab which adds merit to the 1st url you supplied me with. I luv this channel.
[18:04] <Lucid_Lynx> the automatic reconnecting doesn´t happen to eth0...?
[18:05] <glitsj16> honeybuntu: so you have a separate /home now? the real credit should go to whoever wrote the help documentation :)
[18:05] <imghost> taylanub, ??
[18:06] <honeybuntu> I'm going to have a separate /home as I plan to wipe and re-install most directly after supper.
[18:08] <taylanub> imghost: bcmwl-kernel-source doesn't seem to be installed.  Some Google results recommend installing a new kernel, do you think just installing the latest (3.12.8) would be fine ?
[18:08] <Raymondo> um, slight emergency over here. can't boot past red dots. liveusb boots. what should I try first?
[18:08] <honeybuntu> i have 5 machs (my mini comp lab) 1 running xp/ubuntu 12.04LTS (dual boot) - old mach m100 tosh satellite
[18:09] <nathan_> @ulkesh - Problem solved! ubuntu seemed to want to install the wrong driver package by deafault. Not sure why or who to contact to fix this though!
[18:09] <imghost> taylanub, no, you need to compile your own wireless  have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working
[18:09] <honeybuntu> I am reinstalling on the asus s500CA (efi [uefi] bios) running ubuntu 12.04.3lts solo
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Raymondo start with this to get a cli
[18:11] <honeybuntu> is it a sound idea to dual boot ubuntu 12.04.3lts & ubuntu 13.10 simultaneously (or is that a nutso idea, on my part)?
[18:12] <lolnoob> Hi. I tryed to instal ubuntu on computer which already have windows 8.1. But ubuntu installer don't see it. Installer offers to instal ubuntu with full clear of my HDD. How to fix it?
[18:12] <glitsj16> imghost: taylanub: you indeed might have to update your kernel according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1265151
[18:12] <zykotick9> honeybuntu: i wouldn't recommend sharing /home between them... if you do.  YMMV
[18:13] <phuh> Anybody knows how you can `ufw reset` without preventing it generates backup files?
[18:13] <imghost> glitsj16, status incomplete
[18:13] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: thanks. should I install boot-repair?
[18:13] <honeybuntu> -->zykotick9: that is why i am hesitant.
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: no. its not a boot issue, more likely a lightdm/X issue
[18:15] <imghost> glitsj16, also when he was using lower kernel version then his wireless was working, so i do not think upgrading to new kernel will resolve his problem but compling his own wireless for RT3290 from rail link site will definetly solve his problem
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: once you get to the cli we can start looking at logs
[18:15] <lolnoob> Hi.  I tryed to instal ubuntu on computer which already have windows 8.1. But ubuntu installer don't see it. Installer offers to instal ubuntu with full clear of my HDD. How to fix it?
[18:15] <Raymondo> alright, sec
[18:15] <honeybuntu> it is possible to keep /home in separate partition for just the ubuntu 12.04lts & leave ubuntu 13.10's /home folder native to it's root dir.
[18:15] <glitsj16> imghost: yet several users report it needs the 3.12 kernel, and also see the duplicate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466 ..
[18:16] <zykotick9> honeybuntu: sure...
[18:16] <nathan_> noob question, is there a way i can set this to only display messages, rather than all of the sign in/out alerts?
[18:17] <DJones> !quietirc | nathan_
[18:17] <DJones> nathan_: Hopefullythe IRC client you use is listed on that webpage
[18:18] <ramborocks> how whas that?
[18:18] <jamesaxl> bp
[18:18] <jamesaxl> p
[18:18] <nathan_> i just clicked a link and chrome loaded a webpage, no idea what client this is lol
[18:18] <ramborocks> i got !quietirc
[18:18] <jamesaxl> BP
[18:18] <ramborocks> !quietirc
[18:18] <honeybuntu> then i am doubly grateful for the added advisement regarding these setup & partitioning options as i believe this should assist in insulating the /home dir from sys collapse treacheration.
[18:18] <jamesaxl> B|
[18:18] <nathan_> !quietirc
[18:18] <k1l_> !test | jamesaxl
[18:18] <nathan_> !test
[18:18] <ramborocks> wow i think it worked
[18:18] <ramborocks> nope
[18:18] <ramborocks> !quietirc
[18:18] <jamesaxl> k1l_: i though i was in #test sorry
[18:20] <imghost> glitsj16, read the link you gave to me but i did not find the real reason :), so i will still stick on compling :)
[18:20] <glitsj16> imghost: i only assumed the problem for taylanub started to show after upgrading to a new 3.11 kernel, by all means proceed :)
[18:21] <honeybuntu> nice work sys-ops, a-ops & ubuntu's consortium of knowledgeable end-users. (honeybuntu<=formerly an XP windows end-loser)
[18:21] <nathan_> done it! there is even a gui button to hide join part messages. Im just to dumb to notice!
[18:22] <lolnoob> Anybody know answer for my question?
[18:22] <honeybuntu> somehow i lost my "end" in odds & ends of windows nt.4 & xp moritorium.
[18:22] <imghost> glitsj16, cheers :)
[18:23] <honeybuntu> ..and  that's all i have to say about that. Can i run Ubuntu 12.04lts on a mac book pro?
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> !mac | honeybuntu
[18:25] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: ok, got prompt
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: you got net access from there?
[18:27] <Raymondo> yep
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:27] <honeybuntu> -->ubottu:  much thanx for botting in with url. i'm in a "need-to-know" frame of mind w/performing a clean re-install of ubuntu on all 5 machs.
[18:27] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: done
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo pastebint /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:28] <malin_> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:28] <malin_> well.. that was awkward...
[18:29] <Raymondo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781515/
[18:29] <malin_> hitsujiTMO: got any more of those little tricks? Like SCreenshotting and uploading automatic?
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> malin_: not off the top of my head, but it can be done
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:31] <imghost> *imghost z using irc on cell
[18:32] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: empty. there is .0.old which is small and .1 which is several mb
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[18:33] <Raymondo> (.0.log.old that is) k
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: make sure its a capital X
[18:33] <malin_> hitsujiTMO: thanks anyway
[18:34] <Raymondo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781532/
[18:34] <nathan_> #malin lol, yeah awkward. Like your style :)
[18:34] <malin_> nathan_: what style?
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: thats bizarre: ls -l /var/log/lightdm/
[18:34] <nathan_> nevermind lol
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: thats bizarre: ls -l /var/log/lightdm/ | pastebinit
[18:35] <malin_> nathan_: you mean as "its awkward.. just like your style" or "i like your style, i agree thats awkward" ?
[18:35] <nathan_> oh, it should of said I like, not like. Nevermin. More and more awkward....
[18:35] <blueJohn> how can I list all channels in irc?
[18:35] <Raymondo> I had hoped to get a bit further before 'that's bizarre' :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781539/
[18:35] <malin_> nathan_: haha i get it now thanks
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[18:37] <Raymondo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781547/
[18:37] <honeybuntu> -->hitsujiTMO: thanx for pointing the way to !mac  - crucial planning going on here.
[18:38] <KaRaMaCa> for questions about ubuntu, can I do that here or do I need to go to a other chan
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: fglrx driver is the issue. try and reinstall it
[18:38] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I have tried
[18:39] <fego> blueJohn: you can use the alis service. /msg alis help list
[18:39] <Raymondo> there was an issue with ati vendor drivers
[18:39] <Raymondo> so I tried to revert to xorg ones
[18:40] <Raymondo> the result was failure to boot
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: did you download from the ati site or something?
[18:40] <ihavenonick> Raymondo: can you clarify what the ati issue is? i seem to be running into a problem with my ati video card after i installed ubuntu over winXP - Xorg is eating up tons of memory and won't let it go
[18:41] <Raymondo> ihavenonick: I'll let you know once my machine runs again :)
[18:41] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: initially. it worked fine till I started adding monitors. so I used the gui to try to revert, but all driver options except 'manually installed' were greyed out
[18:42] <Raymondo> I then tried to reinstall xorg but apparently that didn't work
[18:44] <honeybuntu> this channel is the veritable source of "I/O-pening" resources for running Ubuntu wisely & creatively. can i upload a backup of my ubuntu /home dir onto Ubuntu One?
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: did you uninstall the ati drivers first? and how did you try to reinstall xorg?
[18:45] <treako> can y one help me my question here
[18:45] <treako> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200434&p=12904619#post12904619
[18:45] <treako> or ill post it here
[18:45] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I blindly followed the top answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers
[18:46] <honeybuntu> The proposed backup upload would not exceed 800 MiB
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: and can you tell me exactly where you installed the ati driver from. the ati website or the repo?
[18:47] <Raymondo> the ati website
[18:47] <KaRaMaCa> Does some body know if there is a tutorial for ubuntu in Dutch? I'm stuck in the terminal and don't know how to get futher
[18:48] <treako> can y one help me my question here
[18:48] <treako> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200434&p=12904619#post12904619
[18:48] <treako> anyone???
[18:48] <honeybuntu> what program app would one utilize to backup an ubuntu 12.04lts /home dir for upload to a "cloud" type storage venue (simply - one that would automate the process without excessive script handling)
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo aticonfig --uninstall
[18:50] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781623/
[18:50] <glitsj16> KaRaMaCa: there's a nice manual available for each supported ubuntu release at http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads
[18:50] <KaRaMaCa> thanks glitsj16, hopefuly I will get futher with it
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: you still got the binary you downloaded from the ati website?
[18:51] <Raymondo> yep
[18:51] <taylanub> imghost: glitsj16: Installing the .deb for the latest kernel, and pulling the latest "linux-firmware" from Git and putting it in /lib/firmware worked. :D
[18:51] <glitsj16> KaRaMaCa: you're welcome .. have a look and the channel is always here if you need further help
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo /path/to/installer --uninstall
[18:51] <taylanub> I was expecting it to fail to boot with the new kernel or something.
[18:52] <glitsj16> taylanub: nice to hear you have things working again
[18:52] <imghost> Taylanub, cheers:)
[18:53] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: same response
[18:53] <imghost> Taylanub, 3.12??
[18:53] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: reinstall it maybe?
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: ok. try installing it again
[18:54] <Raymondo> it detected the old install and says --force is not recommended. ignore it?
[18:54] <honeybuntu> there will be problems installing ubuntu 13.10 on the newest of mac book pro's with the retinal display.
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: you've a choice here. force install or force uninstall. since its partially installed i'd go with a force install
[18:55] <Raymondo> fair enough
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: then after that run it again with --uninstall
[18:56] <honeybuntu> i have found that out "in practice" attempts (not theory), reading on the mac teams' findings.
[18:57] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: uninstall complete
[18:57] <Raymondo> rebooting
[18:57] <nAn00k> anyone know the default root pw on a live disk of buntu...newest version
[18:57] <KaRaMaCa> what do I have to type after username@ root:"$ , I can't find that anywhere?
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> !noroot | KaRaMaCa
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> !root | KaRaMaCa
[18:58] <ikonia> nAn00k: there is no root password
[18:58] <nAn00k> ok ty ty
[18:58] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: ok. progress! it now boots to a blank desktop
[18:58] <TJ-> So that's a "No" then :p
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> doh, wrong person both times
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: try ctrl + alt + t to get a terminal
[19:00] <Raymondo> yep
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:01] <honeybuntu> maybe i'm missing something? dual boot with mac OS and ubuntu 12.04.3lts is easier to install than windows OS', is that tru?
[19:01] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781682/ and 2nd one hasn't finished yet
[19:01] <Wazzawazzawazzaw> hello
[19:01] <Raymondo> connection refused. I'll try again
[19:02] <KaRaMaCa> hitsujiTMO, I get event not found!
[19:02] <Wazzawazzawazzaw> MAC VS PC ...DISCUSS
[19:02] <nAn00k> oh god
[19:02] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781689/ Xorg
[19:03] <honeybuntu> ahh, good discussion. thanx Wazzawazza..CO/DA
[19:03] <malin_> yes
[19:05] <taylanub> imghost: 3.12.8
[19:06] <taylanub> On 12.04 ...
[19:06] <Mining-> hey all! :)
[19:06] <ubbyyyyy> in proc cpuinfo flags i have lahf_lm  .... is this the same as lm? i mean is my processor 64bit capable? thanks
[19:06] <Mining-> I'm trying to install FPC 2.4.2... I'm downloading the .deb on the webpage... launch it and well.. it keeps installing 2.4.4.. but i really need the 2.4.2
[19:07] <imghost> Taylanub, ok :)
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:08] <Raymondo> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[19:09] <Raymondo> already newest
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[19:09] <Raymondo> done
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: setsid unity
[19:10] <Raymondo> ok, unity running and a bunch of warnings in console
[19:10] <honeybuntu> -->glitsj16:  the ubuntu-manual  download URL is exactly what i was hunting.  thanx for provisioning that url.
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: once thats done relog
[19:11] <mw46> does anybody know why the umountfs `startup script' is symlinked to /etc/rc0.d/S40umountfs instead of Kxxumountfs??? That script do real work only on stop??
[19:11] <glitsj16> honeybuntu: yes it's quite nice indeed, enjoy going thru it
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> mw46: why would you be unmounting file systems on startup?
[19:12] <crash_> I have an error with my package manager and dont know how to fix it
[19:12] <ubbyyyyy> in proc cpuinfo flags i have lahf_lm  .... is this the same as lm? i mean is my processor 64bit capable? thanks
[19:12] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: rc0.d is shutdown/halt;-)
[19:13] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: everything seems to be back. 'using x.org x server' drivers :)
[19:13] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: is that it?
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> mw46: thats what i mean. why would it be anywhere else
[19:13] <iTrojan> I've changed hostname / rebooted but still when I check it through tools like http://www.whatismyip.com/ip-address-host-name-lookup/ I get the old one
[19:14] <honeybuntu> is it tru that linux ubuntu versions are somewhat impervious to viruses?
[19:15] <malin_> honeybuntu: wat
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: hopefully. if you want to use the proprietary drivers. install them from the repo. not directly from ati website as the repo version will be specific to your system. You should also prep for an upgrade to 13.10 as 13.04 is loosing support very soon
[19:15] <malin_> honeybuntu: explain
[19:15] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: the problem, as far as I understand it, is that Sxx scripts are for the state (run as SxxScript start) but that umountfs script does the umounting only when it's called as ``Yxxumountfs stop''
[19:15] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: ok. thanks. one final question..
[19:15] <crash_> can anyone help me fix my package manager?
[19:16] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: is there a package I can install that will allow me to automatically buy you a beer?
[19:16] <glitsj16> ubbyyyyy: not sure on how to interpret /proc/cpuinfo, i always use lscpu for finding out .. look at the CPU op-mode(s) line in its output, if you both have 32-bit, 64-bit your CPU is 64bit capable
[19:16] <pippijn> hi
[19:17] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: I have a problem with a BeagleBoneBlack (running Ubuntu;-), where it looks like the filesystems are NOT unmounted in shutdown
[19:17] <pippijn> I'm using ubuntu 12.04, and since my last reboot, suddenly all icons are gone
[19:17] <malin_> pippijn: sudo apt-get install icons
[19:17] <malin_> im sorry
[19:17] <pippijn> they just show a file icon with a red cross in it
[19:17] <malin_> don't do that
[19:17] <pippijn> https://paste.xinu.at/XiQE/
[19:17] <crash_> can anyone help me fix my software/package updater
[19:18] <malin_> pippijn: you are using a theme?
[19:18] <pippijn> default ubuntu theme
[19:18] <pippijn> and it's not only in my user account
[19:19] <pippijn> the login page is also broken
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> mw46: ahhh sorry, i get you. Anything showing up in your syslog?
[19:19] <mw46> no:-(
[19:20] <crash_> can anyone help me fix my software/package manager
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: lol, thanks but i'm good. glad you've a working system again
[19:20] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: and I don't have a real console on that box:-(
[19:20] <malin_> pippijn: have you messed around with the system? like installing themes as root etc?
[19:20] <pippijn> malin_: I did nothing as root except occasional package upgrades, the last of which was about a week ago
[19:21] <malin_> pippijn: i have no idea sorry
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> mw46: can you not pull the storage and read it after you shutdown?
[19:21] <pippijn> it's the second time..
[19:21] <pippijn> I reinstalled the whole system last time
[19:21] <pippijn> and now it happened again
[19:21] <crash_> argggg can anyone help me
[19:21] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I'll have to do some research later to find out what I was actually doing. you cut right to the issue very fast. nicely done
[19:22] <starter2> anyone with "ruby" experience on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | starter2
[19:22] <crash_> ???
[19:23] <starter2> sorry, wanted to see if legit question. I got ruby from apt-get, and got 1.9.1, but ZenTest won't install. Is there another repo with a more up to date version?
[19:23] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: what I see/saw was that on the next boot the filesystems were marked as dirty/check needed. That's kind of painful on an external Drobo with 6TB usable storage:-(
[19:23] <crash_> software/package installer fix??
[19:24] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: I can look at all the logs on the next boot, that's not a problem, but there is nothing in them:-(
[19:24] <pippijn> well then
[19:24] <pippijn> another reinstall
[19:25] <hdon> hi all :) Ubuntu 12.04 Unity question: how can i change the number and layout of virtual desktops?
[19:25] <starter2> crash_, was that for me?
[19:25] <crash_> im just trying to figure out how to fix my software/package installer
[19:26] <glitsj16> crash_: what is going wrong with the package manager exactly? people here will need more details to be able to determine what's happening on your end ..
[19:26] <kostas5> Can anyone help with installing 13.10 on a Vaio Pro 13? I changed the bios settings and tried using a live CD (in a usb stick) with no success.
[19:26] <crash_> it says installed packages have unmet dependencies
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> crash_: how exactly are you trying to install zentest?
[19:27] <crash_> what is zentest?
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> crash_: sorry, wrong person
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> starter2: how exactly are you trying to install zentest?
[19:28] <starter2> hitsujiTMO,  sudo gem install zentest
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> starter2: and what is the exact error you get? can you pastebin the full output of that command
[19:29] <glitsj16> crash_: can you pastebin output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[19:32] <starter2> hitsujiTMO, is there an app in ubuntu that allows the upload of a file to pastebin directly from terminal?
[19:32] <crash_> The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> starter2: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo gen install zentest | pastebinit
[19:33] <glitsj16> crash_: just for getting a bit more context .. when did things start to go wrong ?
[19:34] <crash_> i would say about 2 weeks ago but i have not been connected to the internet so i have not been able to fix it
[19:34] <crash_> and i have the little error symbol on the top of my screen
[19:34] <starter2> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781862/
[19:35] <glitsj16> crash_: okay thanks .. let's look at your sources list .. pastebin output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and output of "ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:35] <glitsj16> d"
[19:35] <honeybuntu> -->malin: was lost in thought reading installation "white notes" and lab installation of various versions of ubuntu. you wanted me to re-phrase my '?'  re: ubuntu versions & viruses.Original submittal:  "Is it tru that linux (and ubuntu versions) are resistant (almost immune) to computer viruses?"
[19:36] <glitsj16> sorry, hit enter too soon .. that last command should have been "ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[19:36] <crash_> ok im sorry im still kinda a newbie and im not really sure how to do that
[19:38] <glitsj16> crash_: no problem, good to ask .. open a terminal window first (Ctrl+Alt+T) and enter "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" .. that will show some output, you can copy/paste that into paste.ubuntu.com and show us the URL so we can look at it
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> starter2: looks like an issue with gemspec of the gem itself. maybe specify an earlier version with the -v flag or try the version in the ubuntu repo: sudo apt-get install ruby-zentest      (its version 4.9.1 on 13.10)
[19:39] <starter2> hitsujiTMO,  i was going to say just now, using -v 4.3.1 worked, that's all i needed for readinline
[19:39] <jake_> if I'm applying for a job and im using libreoffice writer to update my resume, can the company im appling for still open my resume if they are using microsoft windows??
[19:39] <ROPA> bekks but, I can't chmod, which is my problem. When I try to do it, I get the error message saying it's a read only....and no changes are made to the disk.
[19:39] <brontosaurusrex> jake_, Don't send any open format, send them pdf.
[19:40] <crash_> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
[19:40] <crash_> ## developers who want to ship their latest software.
[19:40] <crash_> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
[19:40] <crash_> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
[19:40] <FloodBot1> crash_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <glitsj16> crash_: not in here :) .. paste it on paste.ubuntu
[19:41] <glitsj16> com
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> jake_: use common fonts: arial, helvetica, times new roman, etc... open fonts may have trouble, especially when embedding into a pdf that will be read by adobe reader. that bit me in the arse a while back
[19:44] <crash_> so what happens after i do that
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> crash_: use paste.ubuntu.com and paste the url here
[19:45] <profligacy> What up fam?
[19:47] <glitsj16> crash_: it's just a way to exchange information so assisting you is easier .. untill shapeshifting and time-travel is affordable that's what this channel need to communicate on these technical issues :)
[19:48] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781941/
[19:48] <Andymmm> anyone know of a bittorrent client that will allow downloading individual files (from within the torrent) via the terminal?
[19:48] <glitsj16> crash_: okay, having a look
[19:48] <profligacy> Andymmm: u-torrent
[19:48] <crash_> thank you
[19:48] <Andymmm> perfect, thanks
[19:49] <brontosaurusrex> Andymmm, rtorrent ?
[19:49] <profligacy> Andymmm: no doubt fam
[19:50] <glitsj16> crash_: that looks fine (execept that you are using the raring 13.04 which is nearly to its end-of-life, but we'll leave that for later) .. can you do another paste, this time from the command "ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list.d" please
[19:50] <Qwer> erverChat
[19:50] <crash_> yup
[19:51] <crash_> it says command not found
[19:52] <honeybuntu> -->malin: I found an answer to my question re: linux/ubuntu virus resistancy here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1334952
[19:53] <glitsj16> crash_: did you use small L both times in that command?
[19:53] <gordonjcp> honeybuntu: Linux machines with direct connections to the Internet already outnumber Windows machines
[19:53] <linuxuser1000> hello
[19:54] <gordonjcp> honeybuntu: if it was simply down to "popularity" then there would be credible viruses for Linux by now
[19:54] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781967/
[19:54] <linuxuser1000> i've installed the nvidia current driver from the ppa and also bumblebee,but when i try running optirun it says cannot load gpu driver
[19:55] <honeybuntu> sorry for delay. was parsing various urls posted in channel (honeybuntu<-->learning & scribing)
[19:55] <linuxuser1000> i've tried everything to fix it
[19:55] <bekks> linuxuser1000: Because either you use "the current driver" OR you use "nvidia optimus", which requires a different driver at least.
[19:55] <linuxuser1000> well i'm using the driver that installed with bumblebee-nvidia
[19:55] <bekks> linuxuser1000: And for optimus, you cannot use the stock driver.
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: did you install bumblebee-nvidia ?
[19:56] <linuxuser1000> yes i did
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: what gpu do you have?
[19:56] <linuxuser1000> nvidia geforce 720m
[19:56] <strixUK> anybody recommend a replacement for thttpd, which was dropped in 12.04?  (context: thttpd effectively used as a process manager for CGI processes under nginx)
[19:57] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: what's bumbule bee?
[19:57] <honeybuntu> credible or incredible (but not incredulous)..never say never (depends on end-user savvy w/re: to downloading malware,  rogue apps, etc.)
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:57] <linuxuser1000> ok
[19:57] <glitsj16> crash_: you forgot the - in the command .. ls -lh .. hence the error, but okay for now .. it shows you have a few quantal PPA's on raring .. do you know how to disable those through the GUI ?
[19:57] <bekks> profligacy: "bumblebee" is a software to enable the usage of a n nvidia optimus chipset.
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: its used for gpu switching in an nvidia optimus environment
[19:57] <crash_> im sorry i dont
[19:57] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: How do i know if i have a nvidia optimus environment?
[19:58] <linuxuser1000> it says no such file
[19:58] <linuxuser1000> or directory
[19:58] <profligacy> geforce gt 65m hitsujiTMO
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you have a 300m series nvidia gpu + intel apu
[19:58] <profligacy> geforce gt 650m* hitsujiTMO
[19:58] <glitsj16> crash_: okay, run "software-properties-gtk" in terminal and that will open a window in which you'll see several tabs .. let me know when you have that
[19:58] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: apu?
[19:58] <honeybuntu> enhanced dc usage since the birth of DALnet
[19:59] <linuxuser1000> nvidia settings says i need to run nvidia-xconfig but i get command not found
[19:59] <profligacy> What's an APU?
[19:59] <compdoc> cpu with a decent video card built in
[19:59] <bekks> profligacy: advanced processing unit
[19:59] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: I have that.
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: thats good. please pastebin the result of dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[19:59] <honeybuntu> linux "redhat & walnut creek" were my 1st attempts at running linux.
[19:59] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6781999/
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: apu is Accelerated processing unit. a gpu in the cpu effectively
[20:01] <linuxuser1000> http://pastebin.com/aF10ZnqC
[20:01] <linuxuser1000> here it is
[20:02] <linuxuser1000> also software sources lists no proprietary drivers
[20:02] <linuxuser1000> only one in use
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: pastebin the output of: lspci -k
[20:03] <glitsj16> crash_: okay, seems to be a problem with one of the apt lists, we'll try to remove that and see what else shows up .. sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-updates_restricted_i18n_Translation-en && sudo apt-get update"
[20:04] <levo> my desktop is lxde, i had bunch of desktops before (including kde) which i deleted some,  in some software when I open file dialog opens and I click on files there, the whole program crashes. for example in vlc it says:  Interface is not valid
[20:04] <levo> ASSERT failure in : "Got an update for an invalid inteface. Investigate this.", file atspiadaptor.cpp, line 899
[20:04] <levo>   
[20:04] <linuxuser1000> http://pastebin.com/2TveRnzZ
[20:04] <linuxuser1000> here
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: cat /etc/issue
[20:06] <linuxuser1000> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[20:08] <linuxuser1000> i've even tried editing the bumblebee.conf
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: 304 doesn't support your gpu it seems. you need to install 319
[20:09] <linuxuser1000> i've tried the one on the nvidia site
[20:09] <linuxuser1000> and got a black screen
[20:09] <linuxuser1000> so apt-get install nvidia-319?
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: dont use the one form the site, use 319 from the repo. sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 bumblebee-nvidia nvidia-current nvidia-settings nvidia-settings-304
[20:10] <crash_> that did not work
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 bumblebee-nvidia
[20:11] <glitsj16> crash_: paste the output of the command you ran please
[20:11] <linuxuser1000> i saw there's also 331 but i'm gonna get 319
[20:12] <linuxuser1000> what is better 331 or 319
[20:12] <linuxuser1000> ?
[20:13] <honeybuntu> Thank you for all feedback & much appreciated assistance by & by. Enjoy your weekend everyone.
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: do you have xorg edgers ppa installed or something as 331 is not in the repos
[20:13] <linuxuser1000> i have swatx
[20:13] <linuxuser1000> *ubuntu-x-swat
[20:13] <path0gen> so my RDP server is getting brute forced. what is the name of a tool where I can lock out IP after certain amount of login faiulures?
[20:14] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6782077/
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuser1000: i see. the 331 are unsupported.
[20:14] <bekks> path0gen: You run a RDP server on Ubuntu?
[20:14] <linuxuser1000> now optirun works
[20:14] <linuxuser1000> thanks
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> path0gen: fail2ban
[20:14] <path0gen> thanks
[20:15] <linuxuser1000> now i have to get steam to run somehow with it
[20:15] <glitsj16> crash_: did you use sudo? anyways, try again "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-updates_restricted_i18n_Translation-en"
[20:15] <ROPA> I'm getting a disk integrity error on boot with 12.04 on a Dell Inspiron 15. I create a boot partition because the bios needs it to operate properly. But, the procedure for creating the boot partition says I need to also tell the bios to use the newly created boot partition. In my bios, there is no means to point it towards the boot sector, unless I create a new boot command..... I named the new command, and now I am faced with
[20:15] <ROPA>  how to tell it to go to the boot partition when it starts up. How do I format the command to tell the thing to look for a boot partition at sda1?????
[20:17] <linuxuser1000> should i use optirun or primusrun for steam?
[20:18] <glitsj16> crash_: if that command didn't produce any output at all it means it did what it was supposed to do .. if so you can run "sudo apt-get update" and paste any error output
[20:18] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6782092/
[20:21] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6782125/
[20:21] <glitsj16> crash_: odd, but not uncommon .. "sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*"
[20:21] <ePax> Im on 13.10 and lenovo thinkpad and my wifi connection is kinda slow? Is there any solution to this problem?
[20:22] <glitsj16> crash_: that removed all package lists, but now we regenerate those .. "sudo apt-get update"
[20:23] <Walex> ePax: a cable? :-)
[20:23] <ePax> Walex, :)
[20:24] <gmpana> ePax: a better wifi router or a better network adaptator for the thinkpad?
[20:25] <andyfied> heya everyone
[20:26] <crash_> that fixed it
[20:26] <andyfied> i have an HMA-Pro vpn account and i have been trying to get it working on ubuntu. should be easy, but i've had trouble installing gopenvpn
[20:26] <ePax> gmpana, I dont think its a hardware issue. Its more like software issue as it use to be using ubuntu :)
[20:26] <ePax> brb
[20:26] <glitsj16> crash_: :) .. something must have been stuck in an earlier update attempt, can't be sure
[20:27] <andyfied> i followed these intructs https://hidemyass.zendesk.com/entries/24962851-gOpenVPN-on-Linux-step-by-step but the icon does not appear on the top bar. does anyone have any idea how i can get it working?
[20:27] <crash_> thank you very much, now how do i go from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10
[20:27] <glitsj16> crash_: just 2 things .. raring is almost at the end of its support cycle, so you might have to look at upgrading to 13.10
[20:28] <andyfied> it is installed and running (i see it in sys monitor) but since it has no icon to click i'm stumped as to how to do anything with it
[20:28] <crash_> how do i upgrade to 13.10
[20:29] <andyfied> i'm running 13.10 btw
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> andyfied: try: sudo apt-get install libappindicator1
[20:29] <glitsj16> crash_: ahh, same thought .. use "sudo do-release-upgrade" .. but before you do, disable those quantal PPA's to give the upgrade a better chance to go smooth
[20:30] <andyfied> thx hitsujiTMO
[20:30] <glitsj16> crash_: you should be able to get that GUI to do so now .. software-properties-gtk
[20:32] <crash_> thank you very much for your help
[20:32] <andyfied> hitsujiTMO: it's not auto appeared so i'm going to reboot
[20:32] <glitsj16> crash_: you'll see a tab named 'Other Software' .. uncheck the quantal PPA's, close the app and do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" before the "sudoi do-release-upgrade" command
[20:33] <glitsj16> crash_: you're welcome, hope the upgrade goes smooth so you can get back to using the machine
[20:38] <andyfied> hitsujiTMO: still no joy. any other ideas to make it appear?
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> andyfied: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/how-to-re-enable-tray-icons-for-applications-in-ubuntu-13-10 but be careful with the ppa
[20:40] <andyfied> hitsujiTMO: thanks! i'll check it. if i'm still stuck i'll take it to the forums
[20:44] <mcristo> Is anyone here on 14.04 yet>
[20:44] <mcristo> ?
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | mcristo
[20:45] <mcristo> I mean the daily build.
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> mcristo: yes #ubuntu+1 for that
[20:49] <Lucid_Lynx> Hi , is NetworkManager/network-manager Ubuntu specific ?
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> no
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> CJD14: fix your connection
[20:50] <stardust> .
[20:51] <Lucid_Lynx> thx. hitsujiTMO
[21:02] <Osmodivs> it's been a while... How do I login?
[21:02] <Osmodivs> like /msg Admin
[21:04] <Osmodivs> Anyway, I just updated from 12.04 to 12.10, and when trying to open synaptic, it gives me this error message: E: The value 'precise' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[21:04] <Osmodivs> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:05] <Osmodivs> Whats wrong?
[21:09] <glitsj16> Osmodivs: looks like there might be still references to precise in your /etc/apt/apt.conf ..
[21:09] <thom_r> hello all
[21:10] <Osmodivs> glitsj16, So, do I just delete the apt.conf file?
[21:10] <glitsj16> Osmodivs: no, just make sure anything refering to precise is removed, but keep the file even when empty
[21:11] <glitsj16> Osmodivs: there might be other stuff in that file you'd want to keep
[21:13] <Osmodivs> Hey glitsj16 , Know how to edit that file? Error reading file '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/': Is a directory
[21:14] <glitsj16> Osmodivs: try "gksudo gedit /et/apt/apt.conf" for GUI or "sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf" for cli edits
[21:14] <glitsj16> apt.conf.d is indeed a directory, you need /etc/apt/apt.conf
[21:15] <SchrodingersScat> glitsj16: I also do not have a /etc/apt/apt.conf
[21:16] <glitsj16> SchrodingersScat: that's quite possible
[21:17] <Osmodivs> Something is wrong here...
[21:17] <Osmodivs> There is no such file
[21:18] <Osmodivs> There is gotta be another way..
[21:18] <glitsj16> Osmodivs: odd, i thought that  APT::Default-Release which you had in your error is only used in that /etc/apt/apt.conf file .. double-checking
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> the same file is not present in 13.10. seems its config was moved to apt.conf.d
[21:18] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: ahh thanks for education
[21:19] <bekks> Osmodivs: You get that error when doing what exactly?
[21:19] <Osmodivs> bekks, sudo synaptic
[21:20] <bekks> Osmodivs: Then try to rename /root/.synaptic to /root/.synaptic.old
[21:20] <bekks> Osmodivs: And since synaptic is a graphical tool, you should not use sudo, but gksu
[21:20] <bekks> or gksudo
[21:21] <Osmodivs> bekks, like, gksudo synaptic?
[21:21] <bekks> yes, after renaming that given folder
[21:21] <Osmodivs> let ne try that
[21:21] <Guest33901> I have Ubuntu 13.10 (64 bit) and am trying to empty the trash.  I am not successful - even with bleachbit.  Is there another solution?
[21:22] <mo> hi
[21:22] <bekks> Guest33901: Did you use nautilus as root in the past?
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/.local/share/Trash
[21:23] <Guest33901> bekks: Don't remember using Nautilus in the recent past.  Before, I could empty the trash, but not for a week or two
[21:23] <bekks> Guest33901: Sound like you did use nautilus as root, and deleted things, so trash can be emptied by root only now.
[21:24] <Guest33901> bekks: Ok, but even with bleachbit in root mode, I still can't empty trash
[21:25] <bekks> I never used bleachbit and dont even know what it is.
[21:25] <maxbit> hy
[21:25] <bekks> Guest33901: The most simple approach would be emptying the trash as root, in a terminal.
[21:26] <Guest33901> bekks: please give me the way to do so ... And can I recover access to my trash as user and no longer just as root?
[21:26] <bekks> Guest33901: Open a terminal, temporarily gain root access using sudo -i, navigate to the trash folder you want to empty, empty it.
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: sudo rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/Trash/files/* && sudo rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/Trash/info/*
[21:27] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: I will try
[21:27] <maxbit> has some one time to check that package: i am using ubuntu 13.10 desktop and when i try to install that package : http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/minpspw/SDK%20%2B%20devpak/pspsdk%200.11.2/minpspw_0.11.2-1ubuntu0_amd64.deb?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fminpspw%2Ffiles%2FSDK%2520%252B%2520devpak%2Fpspsdk%25200.11.2%2F&ts=1390166267&use_mirror=garr it aborts with a error box that says : Die Installation eines Pa
[21:27] <maxbit> kets, das gegen die Qualitätsstandards verstößt, ist nicht erlaubt. Dies könnte zu ernsthaften Problemen im System führen. Bitte kontaktieren Sie den Herausgeber der Paketdatei und melden Sie diesem die folgenden Angaben.
[21:28] <bekks> maxbit: Then send that message to the autor of that package.
[21:28] <bekks> maxbit: The error message is very very clear.
[21:32] <maxbit> i think there is no one working on that project anymore i send a mail 3 dais ago and got no reply should it work when i build it from source?
[21:32] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: Is the thing $HOME or SHOME?
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: $HOME
[21:32] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: It isn't yet finished
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: was there a lot of files in the trash?
[21:33] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: It seems to freeze
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: ctrl + c. you may have issues with your filesystem
[21:33] <bekks> Guest33901: It may take a while to complete.
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: was there a lot of files?
[21:33] <bekks> Guest33901: With a large number of small files, it may take minutes.
[21:34] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: When I try bleachbit - even with root permission, it just freezes.  I don't know how many files or MBs.  I've started the thing for hours and no end to it
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33901: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -l $HOME/.local/share/Trash/files | pastebinit
[21:35] <maxbit> @bekks what problem could appere when i build the package from source? i send a mail 3 days ago and got no reply :S
[21:36] <Guest33901> Virus scanner has found 12 threats so far.
[21:36] <Guest33901> hitsujiTMO: Virus scanner has found 12 threats so far.
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> huh?
[21:36] <Guest33901> I'm going to let Virus Scanner finish before I do anything else
[21:37] <Guest33901> I'm running Clamav
[21:37] <droid> do we need anti virus for ubuntu ?
[21:37] <rww> !antivirus
[21:37] <Guest33901> I'll get back in a couple minutes
[21:37] <Guest33901> see ya later
[21:37] <droid> cheers
[21:39] <ham1> does anyone know what xinetd is used for on Ubuntu server?
[21:39] <bekks> maxbit: the package building instructions wont change, they are entirely broken, so the package management system refuses to install that package. Contact the author.
[21:40] <ham1> when I telnet to it, it looks like it's talking to gmails gSMTP server
[21:40] <bekks> ham1: how do you "telnet to xinetd"?
[21:40] <bekks> ham1: Which port do you use to connect?
[21:41] <ham1> tcp        0      0 localhost:10025         *:*                     LISTEN      876/xinetd
[21:41] <bekks> ham1: then check the xinetd configuration to see whats configured on that port.
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: did you look at the config in /etc/xinetd.conf or /etc/xinetd.d ?
[21:42] <maxbit> @bekks thx wish a nice day :S
[21:42] <ham1> ah, seems to be a gmail-smtp section there.. don't remember setting that up
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> ham1 maybe look at: dpkg -S /path/to/that/config to see if a specific app other than xinetd put the config there
[21:44] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/xinetd.d/gmail-smtp
[21:46] <akim> how do ppl stay on irc even if they go offline
[21:46] <akim> like nick change to nick_zZz
[21:46] <akim> anybody know the name of the tech?
[21:46] <lawr> !ops
[21:46] <lawr> help
[21:46] <lawr> now
[21:46] <akim> lawr, hey man
[21:46] <IdleOne> with?
[21:46] <lawr> akim: hi
[21:46] <Pricey> lawr: What's up?
[21:46] <lawr> there is a pedo PMing me
[21:46] <pancakes9> is there a faster way to do:
[21:46] <pancakes9> cp /etc/nginx/sites-available/default /etc/nginx/sites-availble/new
[21:46] <Pricey> lawr: /ignore pedo
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: what about: apt-cache rdepends xinitd
[21:47] <lawr> but it is illegal
[21:47] <akim> pancakes9, install zsh
[21:47] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, E: No packages found
[21:47] <pancakes9> akim: okay, how will that help
[21:47] <k1l> lawr: please report that in #ubuntu-ops and keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. you can find freenode staff in #freenode , too
[21:48] <akim> pancakes9, zsh does auto-copmlele, i assume that's your prob
[21:48] <pancakes9> nah, just wondering if there's some bash shortcut
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: sorry, typo: apt-cache rdepends xinetd
[21:48] <SchrodingersScat> akim: irc bouncers could be once answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29#IRC ; those that thave servers can have irc running in a screen and leave it up.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: any of those installed?
[21:49] <akim> SchrodingersScat, ah thx! :D
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> akim: also, that's just a nickchange, doesn't mean they disconnected.
[21:49] <pvl1> after installing conky-all, can i still run conky as a ncurses app
[21:50] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, there are some things but I don't recognise any of them
[21:50] <Riptide> Hello
[21:50] <akim> SchrodingersScat, so i have a q, if i use IRC from different locations, one in the office, one at home, and one VPN'd from a remote location, where do i setup my irc bouncer server??
[21:50] <akim> would it be somewhere out in the interwebs or something?
[21:50] <Riptide> I managed to play Gmod on my laptop, but when I played today, (or tried to) I could not move/look around
[21:50] <pvl1> akim: pick a system thats always on
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: thats everything that has a dependency on that package, but not necessarily installed. comparing that with dpkg --get-selections may geive you the package that installed the config
[21:52] <akim> pvl1, do i need to be connected to that irc bouncer in order to use my nick? or can i just connect to the irc server directly while having the irc bouncer connected at the same time
[21:52] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, ah ok, will do
[21:52] <akim> i may have a situation where i have two nicks at the same time, i dunno, lol
[21:52] <pvl1> akim: u must go thru the bouncer, as that is the one whos using the nick. afaik
[21:53] <akim> i see
[21:53] <pvl1> akim: me personally, i just use weechat, and its relay protocol. theres an android app that is like a remote client
[21:53] <akim> pvl1, ah i've heard of weechat :)
[21:53] <SchrodingersScat> akim: first make sure the one you install offers the persistence you want, but I've not used one.  I use the screen option, then ssh into my computer to get back to it.  So when I'm at the office I'm only an ssh away.
[21:53] <Riptide> JOIN
[21:53] <Riptide> oops
[21:54] <akim> SchrodingersScat, ah i see, so in that case some ppl use irssi
[21:55] <lawr> please join #horsescat
[21:55] <Riptide> meh
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> akim: yep, or weechat, probably more.
[21:55] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, nothing matches between those two lists, I googled the conf file and looks like it might be something to do with nullmailer.. but don't remember installing that - but maybe I did when I first set up the server, I've not got postix and just set up filtering with AMaVIS which is when I noticed something was running on 10025..
[21:56] <impossible> in Ubuntu 13.10 can i do HDMI in, like if it were a tv?
[21:57] <we6jbo> Hi
[21:57] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, after reading the blog post on it - looks like I set it up ages ago and totally forgot about it! Thanks for your help.
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> ham1: odd. this is one reason why its good to document everything you do on a live server.
[21:58] <we6jbo> Is there a good debian distro. that's geard towards remote connecting into the system and running Internet applications etc?
[21:58] <ham1> hitsujiTMO, you are indeed right, however it's just my own website which noone visits so I'm not too bothered :P
[21:58] <bekks> we6jbo: Every distro shipping with an ssh server meets your requirements.
[21:58] <lawr> please join #horsescat
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> lawr: please refrain from advertising here
[21:59] <elky> lawr: No.
[21:59] <elky> lawr: you will stop this now.
[21:59] <lawr> go on go on go on I know you wanna;)
[21:59] <lawr> ok
[21:59] <we6jbo> bekks: I'm looking for a specialty built debian distro that does that and does not require interaction from the system itself.
[22:00] <bekks> we6jbo: "interaction from the system"?
[22:00] <we6jbo> Like going to the keyboard and running something locally
[22:00] <we6jbo> It's going to be a server
[22:00] <bekks> we6jbo: Do you know what ssh is?
[22:01] <we6jbo> secure shell
[22:01] <bekks> we6jbo: Thats how you do things remotely.
[22:01] <pvl1> !ssh
[22:02]  * pvl1 trolls onward
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> CJD14: please fix your connection
[22:02] <we6jbo> How about things like running a virtual private network or graphically connecting to the system
[22:02] <bekks> we6jbo: you do not connnect graphically, thats why you use ssh.
[22:03] <we6jbo> But I might want to remotely
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> we6jbo: what exactly do you want to run on the system?
[22:03] <bekks> we6jbo: Then you need to use something else, rather than ssh.
[22:03] <we6jbo> Icecast maybe
[22:04] <bekks> No need for a graphical login for icecast.
[22:04] <Kronosphere> the last Ubuntu version?
[22:05] <Miesco_> Hi I got a new computer today.  Should I install ubuntu or debian on it?
[22:05] <bekks> Kronosphere: A full question would be good :)
[22:05] <bekks> !poll | Miesco_
[22:05] <k1l> Miesco_: since you ask in #ubuntu: ubuntu
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Kronosphere: supported ?
[22:05] <Kronosphere> sorry bekks. The last version of Ubuntu platform. Version 13.10?
[22:06] <k1l> Kronosphere: the latest is 13.10, yes
[22:06] <bekks> Kronosphere: The latest Ubuntu release is 13.10. The atest LTS is 12.04
[22:07] <Kronosphere> which one is better bekks ? 13.10 or 12.04?
[22:07] <bekks> !best | Kronosphere
[22:08] <k1l> !away > kayhac
[22:08] <pvl1> certain console apps over ssh flicker a lot, anyone know why
[22:09] <bekks> pvl1: Never experienced flickering in the console.
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: what app? sounds like its continuously rewriting to the console
[22:10] <pvl1> bekks: its specific it seems, to console apps that arent using ncurses
[22:10] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: exactly, it was conky cli, and nethogs
[22:10] <bekks> pvl1: console applications that do not use ncurses never flicker for me.
[22:10] <pvl1> that reminds me i need to reinstall conky-cli, conky-all removes the cli
[22:11] <pvl1> could it be because i killed my xserver
[22:11] <bekks> a console application doesnt even know about X.
[22:11] <pvl1> figured as such
[22:11] <pvl1> this is weird especially because my home network is 100mbit
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: most likely a bandwidth issue. not being able to send the data fast enough
[22:12] <pvl1> which is plenty fast
[22:12] <bekks> And how much bandwidth is in use?
[22:12] <pvl1>  eth0(↓3K/s ↑55K/s)
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> maybe a misconfigured sshd
[22:13] <pvl1> hm
[22:13] <pvl1> didnt think about that
[22:13] <bekks> pvl1: thats a single interface, not the bandwidth in use in the network.
[22:14] <pvl1> bekks: thats the ssh server im connecting to, there cant possibly be enough traffic on my home network that would lag me to it. i can easily fully occupy the 100mbit connection the server
[22:16] <pvl1> plus im ssh'ing weechat and its running fine
[22:18] <bencc> how can I read mp4 metadata from the command line?
[22:18] <bencc> I see the attributes in nautilus
[22:18] <pvl1> avprobe
[22:18] <pvl1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249828/command-to-see-media-file-info-in-terminal
[22:19] <bencc> thanks
[22:19] <altin> anyone has experience with mailman as webmin module ?
[22:19] <altin> in ubuntu
[22:20] <ikonia> as webmin is not supported on ubuntu - I'd guess not
[22:20] <altin> ddidnt know this o.O
[22:20] <ikonia> you must have known this
[22:20] <bekks> I doubt they fixed the mailman module, it was broken for years.
[22:20] <ikonia> as there is no package for it
[22:26] <Guest33683> o /join #semplice-it
[22:26] <Guest33683> ops
[22:26] <Guest33683> sorry
[22:38] <pippijn> hi
[22:38] <pippijn> I'm using ubuntu 13.10, with ibus and chinese pinyin input method
[22:38] <pippijn> I selected "Candidates orientation: Horizontal"
[22:38] <pippijn> but I still get a vertical list
[22:39] <hetro_> I am trying to using a vim plugin, I need to find the location .vim/bundle, but I don't know where it is, any ideas?
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: ~/
[22:40] <acovrig> Is it possible to log what users do with rsync over ssh?
[22:40] <hetro_> hitsujiTMO, I don't see it there using ls -a
[22:41] <hetro_> cd ~/.vim/bundle leads to no such file or directory error
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: then you need to make it. .vim is your personal vim config dir
[22:41] <hetro_> ok, so I would use mkdir?
[22:42] <pngl> I want to configure evdev so my trackpoint triggers scrolling when I press the Alt key. I'm having trouble because the evdev configuration only seems to support mouse button as enablers of the scrolling behaviour. Does anyone know about this?
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: this might help http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2332
[22:46] <hetro_> hitsujiTMO: "Add this to your vimrc" how do I add something to vimrc?
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: vimrc is the file ~/.vimrc         its your vim config. http://amix.dk/vim/vimrc.html
[22:48] <hetro_> hitsujiTMO: I seem to be missing that file
[22:48] <hetro_> should I just make it and then add "call pathogen#infect()" to it?
[22:49] <Karl9876> Hi, I have a laptop (Samsung Series 9) with a HDMI port for connecting an external monitor. All is fine, except when I pull my power cord to go onto battery power, the external display shuts down. There is nothing related to that in the Power settings... How can I stop it closing my external display when I switch to battery mode?
[22:49] <phuh> anybody home?
[22:50] <ikonia> Karl9876: Hmmm that's interesting,
[22:50] <bencc> is it possible to look for the following pattern inside a file? "a9 636d740 000001a6461746100 00000100000000 <arbitrary data> 000000"
[22:50] <bencc> spaces are for clarity. <arbitrary data> is what I'm looking for
[22:50] <phuh> I need some help with iptables :( what's the real purpose of specifying conntrack? for example, allowing ssh/tcp is written as "iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT" is "-m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED" this part really necessary??
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: you'll need to have pathogen installed too
[22:51] <ikonia> phuh: it allows establised out connections back in
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> hetro_: then create the file and add that
[22:51] <ikonia> phuh: not needed for ssh as a unique service
[22:52] <phuh> ikonia: if I completely omit -m conntrack and --cstate, is it really bad?
[22:52] <ikonia> not for ssh no
[22:52] <phuh> how about port 80?
[22:53] <ikonia> phuh: ask your self "are you sending out going packets first that need to respond ?"
[22:53] <ikonia> phuh: I normally do that at a network level on my home machine, and then lock down specific services
[22:55] <hetro_> hitsujiTMO: Thanks! Got it working
[22:55] <solaries_> hi all
[22:56] <solaries_> does anyone know why NetworkManager is forced on me upon each release upgrade? I am very happy with wicd, but manually removing NetworkManager, because network does not work anymore after each release upgrade sucks.
[22:56] <phuh> ikonia: i think i'm too dumb to understand "are you sending out going packets first that need to respond ?" could you explain in little more detail for dumbster like me?
[22:56] <ikonia> phuh: that rule allows a response to any connections you start
[22:56] <ikonia> phuh: so eg: if YOU conect to a games server on port 1234 it allows that games server to respond
[22:57] <ikonia> phuh: when someone connects to your webserver, you dont make the connection, they make a request and you respond
[22:57] <ikonia> phuh: so having that rule on port (for example) seems pointless as your webserver will never start a connection
[22:58] <phuh> ikonia: ahh thanks i think i started getting it
[22:59] <mw46> hitsujiTMO: I verified that the umountfs script does what it's supposed to, at least for a smaller microSD card in my BBB;-) It took a while to get a serial console working
[22:59] <phuh> ikonia: if i don't know what to put in there is it okay to just omit it? or is it really bad and introduce some security hole?
[23:00] <manlin> CTS?
[23:00] <manlin> sorry wrong window
[23:11] <quidnunc> I have Ubuntu running in virtualbox but I forgot the password. Is there any way to load a "fail safe" mode?
[23:12] <quidnunc> I don't think virtualbox uses grub
[23:12] <daftykins> quidnunc: it should do, hold left shift at boot time
[23:13] <Rarrikins> How do I change the group allowed to add WiFi connections?
[23:14] <dunpeal> Hi. I just did an `apt-get upgrade`. some of the post install hooks failed due to 0 bytes free on the disk. Can I re-run them somehow?
[23:15] <rww> i think "sudo apt-get -f install" would do that. not sure.
[23:15] <pippijn> how can I get ibus candidate orientation horizontal?
[23:18] <Karl9876> ikonia: is there something I can do with acpi to fix it?
[23:19] <shockeymoe> Honestly I haven't searched a lot for this answer in forums etc. but being a ubuntu noob I decided to try this support mode. I am having a problem running java in firefox. I can't get past the security window
[23:20] <zapsoda> I ran the command sudo dpkg --configure -a and it has said "Building database of manual pages . . ." for awhile (Only like 5 minutes but I'm impatient) now without changing how long can I expect this to take and at some point should I just cancel and run the command again?
[23:22] <Rarrikins> zapsoda: man page stuff is usually slow. Did you install a bunch of stuff at the same time?
[23:25] <acovrig> Is it possible to log what users do with rsync over ssh?
[23:26] <benkillin> YES
[23:26] <zapsoda> Not really, I just got the VPS (It only has 1gb of ram so I guess I will be waiting for awhile) and Ive been trying to install build-essential for awhile, but the first time I ran the install command it didnt work because its ubuntu 10.10 so I had to change the repos from archive.ubuntu.com to old-repo.ubuntu.com (somthing like that) then update and install again, That was really slow and giving errors about locale so I cancelled tha
[23:26] <zapsoda> t ran the commands from google to fix the locale settings (after removing the lock directory because I ended the install early) then I ran the dpkg --configure -a to finish the install of build essential and its starting with the man db first I guess :/
[23:26] <quidnunc> daftykins: no luck
[23:27] <daftykins> quidnunc: sorry to hear that, don't think i know your situation though (:
[23:27] <quidnunc> daftykins: I take it back, it works thanks. My keyboard crashed
[23:28] <daftykins> oooh that question
[23:28] <daftykins> i forgot about that
[23:34] <quidnunc> What is the lightest desktop environment I can install?
[23:34] <AmLearning> do you guys havea checklist of stuff to install when not installing a full desktop environment? i really want to run i3 but i always work this way.
[23:35] <quidnunc> (in terms of download size)
[23:35] <AmLearning> #bitcoin: beware of scams! scammers are sending users private messages with bitcoin-stealing malware and offers to trade. we are unable to understand any-
[23:35] <sik> Hello, I just updated to 13.10 and suddenly I can't start in graphics video mode anymore, I keep getting a prompt telling me to reconfigure the graphics but no matter what I do nothing happens. If I try to boot with the low def mode it just hangs. S3 Chrome, logs say it isn't supported (not even as VESA?).
[23:37] <Bashing-om> quidnunc: xfce4 is light (and fast !) .
[23:38] <sik> Actually better question: is there any way to disable openchrome? Because I think that forcing the VESA driver would make it work
[23:38] <quidnunc> Bashing-om: xubuntu-desktop is 400MB
[23:39] <k1l> quidnunc: i bet its some tiling wm desktops
[23:40] <SAPHIRO> Hi
[23:40] <elky> SAPHIRO: hi do you have a question?
[23:41] <SAPHIRO> hi kazuhiko
[23:41] <quidnunc> I think the problem is X11
[23:41] <elky> AmLearning: why are we getting #bitcoin notifications from you?
[23:42] <sik> If I do sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-openchrome, will that force Ubuntu to use the VESA driver?
[23:42] <x_root> hello, appeared a file .fuse008.... in a directory /media/USERNAME/Files
[23:43] <rai_> boa noite
[23:43] <x_root> it can be deleted?
[23:45] <elky> x_root: if i recall correctly, your system will clean up that file itself when it is no longer necessary
[23:46] <x_root> elky, is possible to view which program generate it?
[23:47] <elky> x_root: one of your partition filesystems did i think
[23:47] <millerti> Hi.  What is the difference between qemu-system-x86_64 and qemu-x86_64 ?
[23:48] <x_root> i see... thanks elky :)
[23:49] <raiderturbo> Hi all, any tutorials on moving my home folder to another (not yet created) partition?
[23:49] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I am trying to do apt-get build-dep ubiquity . I get an error message that I need a source URI in my sources.list. What is the URI that I should insert?
[23:50] <millerti> Hmmm... it looks like qemu-x86_64 is the CPU emulator, while qemu-system-x86_64 is the whole system emulation.
[23:51] <elky> x_root: dotfiles unless they're in your home directory should generally be left alone, and even then you should be careful with them
[23:51] <giacomo> ciao
[23:51] <giacomo> !list
[23:52] <x_root> elky, i know.. they're hidden for a reason, right? well thanks..
[23:52] <elky> x_root: exactly. you're welcome
[23:52] <glitsj16> raiderturbo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving is pretty detailed
[23:53] <raiderturbo> glitsj16: nice thanks ;-)
[23:53] <glitsj16> you're welcome
[23:54] <sik> OK, so removing xserver-xorg-video-openchrome results in xserver-xorg-video-all being removed (despite VESA being installed already)... Any suggestions? I need to make Ubuntu not use OpenChrome because it's not working at all
[23:54] <neXyon> hi, I'm running a program on a server and ps aux says it's status is Tl (traced or stopped, multithreaded) and it doesn't show CPU usage in top anymore although it should fully load the cpu; how I can I make it running again? I don't want to restart it, it already worked for almost 2 hours
[23:55] <themusicgod1> for example, resale restrictions.  It seems like a double standard for the w3c to be willing to restrict resale rights but not willing to facilitate people to bypass 'spy on your customer' policies
[23:56] <themusicgod1> erp wrong channel
[23:56] <quidnunc> neXyon: Is the process attached to a shell?
[23:56] <quidnunc> what does jobs say?
[23:56] <quidnunc> output of the "jobs" command
[23:58] <neXyon> quidnunc: it's running in a shell yeah and in the foreground there, ctrl+Z doesn't work, already tried it