[07:55] <pleia2> https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/752221-the-top-7-best-linux-distros-for-2014
[07:55] <pleia2> Best Desktop Distro: Xubuntu
[07:55] <pleia2> :D
[07:55] <Noskcaj> :)
[07:56] <pleia2> Carla is so <3 this week (she also did an article about a star wars scrolly xscreensaver and used the ubuntu weekly newsletter as a text example)
[07:57] <Noskcaj> that's pretty impressive, ignoring my opinion on star wars.
[07:57] <pleia2> hehe
[08:32] <forestpiskie> pleia2: nice :)
[09:09] <Noskcaj> Do we want xfwm4 4.11?
[09:11] <Noskcaj> Or does it hurt, since the merge is all done and ready
[09:11] <knome> Noskcaj, see the whiteboard for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-features for wanted versions
[09:11] <knome> Noskcaj, if you need more information about something, ask ochosi
[09:13] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks for the link. Merge proposed
[09:13] <Noskcaj> tomorrow i'll get the bugfix release of -settings and the new gmusicbrowser release done
[09:14] <Noskcaj> but now i have to go and watch cricket, g'night
[10:25] <Unit193> If he does that, he'll break auto-import of it.
[10:28] <knome> then he will have to make sure it's fixed..
[11:20] <brainwash> elfy: reading the alpha 2 mail... one known issue? :D
[11:21] <elfy> :)
[11:22] <elfy> one that they will immediately see and wonder about and end up reporting, then we'll get 4 or 5 dupes of it 
[11:22] <brainwash> this one will be fixed very soon, now that we now why it does not work like intended
[11:22] <brainwash> see the upstream report
[11:23] <elfy> brainwash: possibly so - but if the a2 is released tomorrow - then it will be with what we have
[11:23] <brainwash> oh, it's tomorrow already
[11:23] <elfy> should be tomorrow or tuesday I believe
[11:26] <brainwash> somehow I don't feel like testing it separately 
[11:26] <elfy> seperately?
[11:26] <Unit193> Indicators might be noticed.
[11:26] <brainwash> in a vm or extra installation
[11:27] <brainwash> Unit193: what does that mean?
[11:27] <elfy> anyway - not really all that worried - we'll get the usual half a dozen people test it and report
[11:30] <brainwash> what is the status of light-locker? I guess the user still needs to set it up, or?
[11:31] <Unit193> Not seeded.
[11:32] <brainwash> :/
[12:06] <elfy> brainwash: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-January/002720.html
[12:07] <brainwash> elfy: thanks
[12:17] <Unit193> brainwash: For what it's worth to you, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/revision/284
[12:26] <brainwash> Unit193: wow, and the bug is still not fixed in 13.10
[12:30] <Unit193> Didn't a comment explain what's up?
[12:33] <brainwash> a comment? the report got spammed with comments
[12:33] <brainwash> which one do you mean?
[12:34] <brainwash> with the switch to light-locker the issue should be solved now
[12:35] <Unit193> Also, I love it, fixed in Ubuntu so that's what matters: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1060543
[12:38] <brainwash> yeah, the communication between main ubuntu and the different spins is somewhat bad I think
[12:39] <brainwash> another example would be the update-notifier
[12:39] <Unit193> We added jockey in raring or saucy (see last comment.)
[12:39] <brainwash> it integrates nice into the unity side bar, but not in xubuntu
[12:40] <brainwash> right, but others did not
[12:41] <Unit193> Hope that's merged, so we can drop it.  Otherwise I'll merge request it for lubuntu and UbuntuStudio (our sistership. :P )
[12:42] <brainwash> speaking of ubuntustudio.. aren't those guys also interested in gtk3 indicators and other new xubuntu features like menulibre,..?
[12:43] <brainwash> meaning, they surely want to test them too
[12:43] <Unit193> Likely, but think their team is smaller.
[12:43] <knome> zequence, ^
[12:43] <Unit193> Shush, knome. :P
[12:59] <Unit193> Speaking of him, I poked him about his session problems.
[19:50] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, When can i get some catfish 0.8.3, mugshot, or menulibre for packaging?
[19:57] <brainwash> Noskcaj: hey, do you feel like pushing your power-manager package to trusty-proposed and writing the SRU report for saucy?
[19:58] <Noskcaj> brainwash, I'm trying to get a responce from corsac first, but i'll get it done this week
[19:59] <brainwash> right, I asked him about it, but his answer was rather blurry
[19:59] <Noskcaj> We need a second DD in pkg-xfce. 
[19:59] <Noskcaj> It's currently me, corsac, and sometimes mr-pouit
[20:00] <Unit193> DD is only Corsac.
[20:00] <brainwash> this power-manager is really annoying many users, we have to do something about it :/
[20:00] <brainwash> power-manager issue
[20:00] <Noskcaj> Unit193, my point exactly
[20:02] <brainwash> and people will be forced to upgrade from raring to saucy very soon
[20:03] <Noskcaj> brainwash, link to the bug for changelog plz
[20:03] <brainwash> bug 1222021
[20:22] <Noskcaj> https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-power-manager/systemd/+merge/202226
[20:25] <brainwash> it will now land in the sponsoring queue?
[20:26] <Noskcaj> yeah. The system takes a lot of time though.
[20:29] <brainwash> it's a 400 heat bug report, maybe we can convince someone in ubuntu-devel to take a look at it
[20:31] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Can you go and ping them? I need food and to finish gnome-system-tools
[20:38] <brainwash> Noskcaj: gnome-system-tools? are new patches available?
[20:39] <Noskcaj> The latest entry at http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/g/gnome-system-tools/unstable_changelog
[20:43] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: Good timing, could you start creating packaging/review my setup.py at https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/menulibre/menulibre2
[20:43] <bluesabre-laptop> I'm nearly done, just adding the very last bit now, should be releasable today
[20:46] <bluesabre-laptop> and then I'm off work tomorrow, so will double-down on mugshot tomorrow
[20:47] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, :)
[21:04] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, Is the entire thing GPL-3? Would you like the packaging to be native (Packaged in the same bzr branch) or quilt (packaged separately)?
[21:05] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: Yeah, its all GPL-3
[21:05] <bluesabre-laptop> What would you recommend for the packaging?
[21:07] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, Since it's all targeted for xubuntu, it's probably worth making it native.
[21:07] <bluesabre-laptop> alrighty, works for me
[21:09] <Unit193> Err, highly recommend quilt, if you want it in Debian. :/
[21:09] <Unit193> native = Ubuntu only project and debian/ is part of the project.
[21:09] <Noskcaj> One last thing, what will the release's version be? Will the name stay as menulibre2?
[21:09] <Noskcaj> Unit193, no
[21:10] <Noskcaj> native can be in debian just as easily
[21:10] <Unit193> Basically, yeah.  If packaging gets messed up, new upstream release.
[21:10] <Noskcaj> But i see your point, maybe we should leave it as quilt
[21:10] <bluesabre-laptop> quilt's good then
[21:10] <bluesabre-laptop> will probably release as menulibre
[21:10] <bluesabre-laptop> version 2.0
[21:11] <Unit193> (Also allows you to put all sorts of wicked patches in++) ;)
[21:14] <Noskcaj> Is the package python, python3, or both?
[21:22] <bluesabre-laptop> python3 only
[21:22] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj ^
[21:22] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:31] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, What depends and build depends should i have?
[21:35] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: I believe the dependencies should be the same as alacarte, just with python3
[21:35] <bluesabre-laptop> Unit193: want to take it for a spin?  I just added the last features
[21:39] <Unit193> bluesabre-laptop: Self-contained?  Heck, who cares, of course I do!
[21:43] <bluesabre-laptop> should be able to pull it and run bin/menulibre
[21:44] <bluesabre-laptop> I do need to add that it should bug you to save before closing or changing to a different launcher
[21:44] <bluesabre-laptop> I'll do that in a few
[21:48] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6782533/ is my current error
[21:49] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: Looks like it's falling back and building with python2
[21:51] <Unit193> TypeError: run() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)
[21:51] <Noskcaj> never mind, using pybuild fixes that issue
[21:53] <Unit193> bluesabre-laptop: Something I'm missing?
[21:54] <bluesabre-laptop> Unit193: what line did that happen at?
[21:55] <Unit193> File "/home/unit193/junk/menulibre2/menulibre/__init__.py", line 45, in main
[21:58] <bluesabre-laptop> yay api differences!
[21:59] <bluesabre-laptop> try pulling the just pushed revision
[22:01] <Unit193> I like it, but the toggles have no on/off wording?
[22:02] <Unit193> Segmentation fault \o/
[22:04] <Unit193> Bah, can't reproduce.
[22:05] <bluesabre-laptop> No On/Off wording?
[22:05] <Noskcaj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6782631/ is my new issue
[22:07] <bluesabre-laptop> probably an issue with my setup.py
[22:07] <Unit193> Ah, I can reproduce!
[22:07] <bluesabre-laptop> Unit193: on saucy or trusty?
[22:07] <Unit193> Saucy, baby.
[22:07] <bluesabre-laptop> yup
[22:08] <bluesabre-laptop> ochosi and I found that too
[22:08] <bluesabre-laptop> I think its a bug with either that version of python3.3 or python gmenu
[22:08] <bluesabre-laptop> but python -> C is difficult to debug
[22:09] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: can you tar your packaging in the state that it is in so I can debug my setup.py?
[22:09] <bluesabre-laptop> or if you are familiar with setup.py, could you take a look at it?
[22:10] <Unit193> So, tad buggy, but nevertheless.
[22:13] <bluesabre-laptop> Unit193: you said the toggles don't have the on/off wording?
[22:14] <Unit193> Right, it's just some weird thing that goes back and forth, "Run in terminal" et al.
[22:14] <bluesabre-laptop> weird
[22:14] <bluesabre-laptop> sounds a theme bug
[22:14] <bluesabre-laptop> or feature
[22:15] <Unit193> https://unit193.net/mernuleebre.png
[22:16] <bluesabre-laptop> which theme is that?
[22:16] <Unit193> MediterraneanDarkest
[22:17] <bluesabre-laptop> mernuleebre looks terrible in that theme
[22:18] <Unit193> I needed a dark theme, ochosi wanted to get me off his back about Blackbird, found me this one. :P
[22:18] <bluesabre-laptop> ah
[22:19] <Unit193> Speaking of him, he didn't give you a nice shiny icon.
[22:19] <bluesabre-laptop> I noticed :(
[22:21] <bluesabre-laptop> the xfce menu in debian ignores menulibre and alacarte
[22:21] <bluesabre-laptop> interesting...
[22:22] <Unit193> echo $XDG_MENU_PREFIX
[22:22] <bluesabre-laptop> ah
[22:23] <bluesabre-laptop> had the same problem with cinnamon
[22:23] <bluesabre-laptop> seems like that should really be set by default
[22:24] <Unit193> I don't know if it really is that.
[22:24] <bluesabre-laptop> its not set
[22:24] <bluesabre-laptop> and that is how the correct menu file is discovered
[23:23] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, I think my ftbfs is because you're using + instead of os.path.join to construct paths
[23:25] <bluesabre-laptop> ok, I'll fix that.  I had mostly copied my setup.py from elsewhere, I'll fix that now
[23:25] <Noskcaj> thanks
[23:58] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: pushed, let me know if you need something else
[23:58] <bluesabre-laptop> it will be so nice to be done with this part