[01:51] <xubuntu813> :poop:
[04:19] <xubuntu411> Good evening everyone.
[04:20] <xubuntu411> Is anyone willing to help me with an issue with a new xubuntu install?
[04:21] <holstein> xubuntu411: you'll have to ask, and find out if a volunteer is available
[04:22] <xubuntu411> Ask here or elsewhere?
[04:22] <holstein> xubuntu411: you just type it here..
[04:23] <xubuntu411> did what I type before not count?
[04:23] <xubuntu411> or was I muted/silenced before?
[04:23] <holstein> 23:20 < xubuntu411> Is anyone willing to help me with an issue with a new xubuntu install?
[04:23] <holstein> ^^ thats all i see.. no details
[04:25] <xubuntu411> ah, ok. Details. I am trying to get a live USB XUbuntu going. I burned a CD, but I have no network access with my wired connection. XUbuntu shows the connection is good, and the information shows everything correct. Wireless works fine. I have tried this on two different PCs, with different hardware, and get the same error.
[04:26] <xubuntu411> any help figuring this out would be appreciated.
[04:26] <xubuntu411> as I have never used linux before and have no idea what I am doing.
[04:27] <xubuntu411> Using my wireless connection, i was able to get the startup disk creator software downloaded, and made a usb bootable disk, and it suffers from the same issue.
[04:28] <holstein> you are trying to get a live usb going? if so, you dont need to burn a disc
[04:29] <holstein> you can use unetbootin, the usb creator, or dd copy... all of which is in the default repos, and unetbootin is available to windows
[04:29] <xubuntu411> I am. I was following an instruction guide which said to use a live disc to create it.
[04:29] <holstein> xubuntu411: no.. it says "use a live iso" to create it, i bet
[04:29] <holstein> xubuntu411: you dont need to use a live CD, a physical plastic disc to create a live USB
[04:30] <holstein> xubuntu411: you can use any of the tool i refernce above, as well as others.. pendrive linux or whatever
[04:31] <holstein> xubuntu411: could be the wired network device is not supporting linux
[04:32] <xubuntu411> ok, but that doesnt really change the issue I am having though. I have the live linux USB, but still no wired network access. status and information shows everything working ok, but can't ping out, cant ping the router. Router shows that the system is connected. Tried this on two different motherboards.
[04:32] <xubuntu411> Is there a compatibility chart I can check out to see if it is supported?
[04:33] <holstein> xubuntu411: then, i would assume its the networking setup.. if you cant make any networking device work
[04:33] <holstein> xubuntu411: i literaly just plug a cable from my router, and DHCP give it an address.. or i do static ip's
[04:34] <xubuntu411> yeah, that is what I was hoping to do too.
[04:34] <holstein> xubuntu411: you can always ask your manufacturer if they support linux, but the chances of you have 2 wired nic's that linux doesnt support out of the box is pretty slim
[04:34] <holstein> when you connect wirelessly, is that the same router? or access point?
[04:35] <xubuntu411> that is what I figured. and normally if they were not supported, it would say not connected or something similar, right?
[04:35] <xubuntu411> yeah, same router
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu411: still, i wouldnt worry about it too much at this point.. i would just make your live USB, and start using it.. keep in mind how long you likely use windows before connecting it to ethernet.. and just give yourself some time to learn
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu411: you can open a terminal and run "lspci" to try and see the NIC, and also "ifconfig" can tell you some helpful information
[04:42] <xubuntu411> Well, I kind of need the internet for this machine'
[04:42] <holstein> xubuntu411: sure.. and you have wireless.. and im sure you can get wired working.. what is the output of "ifconfig" ?
[04:43] <holstein> !paste
[04:44] <xubuntu411> can't give full information quickly as it is a different machine. but it shows eth0, with HWaddr, inet addr, bcast and mask
[04:44] <xubuntu411> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST   MTU:1500 Metric 1
[04:44] <xubuntu411> ashows packet information, 0 collitions.
[04:44] <xubuntu411> also has a lo interface with that information filled out as well
[04:45] <holstein> xubuntu411: that can help you see what is going on.. i would try replacing things.. try a different router if you have one laying around.. see if it gets an IP address.. try a different lan cable.. try the live USB on all the machines you have access to
[04:45] <holstein> xubuntu411: lo is "loopback".. not helpful for what you are doing
[04:46] <xubuntu411> Tested it on 2 different machines with 2 different cables. Neither the CD or the live USB had working ethernet.
[04:46] <holstein> xubuntu411: then, keep going.. i literally plug them in here, on nearly all my net cards and it just works
[04:47] <holstein> xubuntu411: i had one card that wasnt automatically supported, and i tossed it
[04:47] <holstein> xubuntu411: try a different router, if you have one..
[04:47] <holstein> they could be the same NIC that just doesnt support linux, but thats not likely
[04:48] <holstein> xubuntu411: share the output of lspci and ifconfig in a pastebin
[04:48] <xubuntu411> how do I take a screenshot in linux?
[04:48] <holstein> !screenshot
[04:49] <holstein> but, i would like to see a pastebin of the output, personally
[04:49] <holstein> then, i can copy and paste as well..
[04:49] <xubuntu411> k, 1 moment.
[04:54] <xubuntu411> http://imagebin.org/287444
[04:57] <xubuntu411> working on a text version
[04:58] <holstein> xubuntu411: thats a pci express card?
[05:00] <xubuntu411> PCI Express is 2 video cards. everything else is onboard.  text version ->  http://pastebin.com/wkkvQbDR
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu411: you are getting an address.. 192.168.1.10
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu411: that is from the router
[05:00] <xubuntu411> yes
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu411: can you ping the router?
[05:00] <xubuntu411> nope
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu411: what is the output of "ping 192.168.1.1"?
[05:00] <xubuntu411> it sits and waits until it his the timeout or is cancelled, with 0% returned
[05:01] <holstein> xubuntu411: you are connected to the router and getting that IP address from there
[05:01] <xubuntu411> yes
[05:01] <holstein> xubuntu411: do you have another router laying around?
[05:01] <xubuntu411> that is why I am so confused.
[05:01] <xubuntu411> unfortunately not
[05:02] <xubuntu411> 192.168.1.1 gets me destination host unreachable, but that is not my router ip
[05:02] <xubuntu411> my router ip is 192.168.1.0
[05:02] <xubuntu411> would that cause a problem in xubuntu?
[05:03] <holstein> xubuntu411: ?
[05:04] <holstein> xubuntu411: yes.. you'll need to ping the actual router.. try pinging *anything* on the network.. try pinging from another machine, and then from xubuntu
[05:04] <holstein> try pinging 192.168.1.10 from another box
[05:05] <xubuntu411> pinging that from my windows machine gets me ping replies, 100% returned
[05:06] <xubuntu411> pinging my windows machine from my ubuntu machine gets replies as well.
[05:06] <xubuntu411> but it cannot ping the router, or any outside website.
[05:07] <holstein> xubuntu411: but, you are on the network, so you can stop troubleshooting "my nic is broken in linux"
[05:07] <xubuntu411> trying to ping www.google.com gets me unknown host, pinging 74.125.20.94 gets me connect: Network is unreachable
[05:09] <holstein> xubuntu411: sure.. but the nic is working.. it can ping other boxes
[05:09] <xubuntu411> yes
[05:09] <xubuntu411> but not anything outside the network, or the router itself.
[05:09] <holstein> xubuntu411: so, you can stop troubleshooting that.. you can look at DNS.. or the router config.. or just relax until you get more comfortable
[05:15] <xubuntu411> route -n shows a gateway of 0.0.0.0
[05:15] <xubuntu411> does that tell you anything?
[05:22] <xubuntu673> Thanks for the help holstein, but I think I'll have to go with another route on this one.
[11:17] <yamamotoai> anyone feel like helping a noob?
[11:18] <elfy> really depends on the question and whether anyone lurking can answer it - so the best thing is to just ask ;)
[11:19] <yamamotoai> okay, well i have xubuntu iso downloaded. I am on a laptop with windows 7 currently, and i want to put the iso on a USB drive and install it on my desktop (cannot access it until i get an OS on it.) Can anyone point me in the direction for installing the iso on the USB drive as if it were an installtion disk? I hope this gets through logically
[11:20] <elfy> yamamotoai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[11:21] <elfy> personally I use unetbootin - (but I've not used it in windows)
[11:21] <yamamotoai> thanks. i see this before, but is that not just alive boot installion instruction? or is that one and the same?
[11:22] <elfy> burn the iso to the stick - boot from stick - then you install from there
[11:23] <yamamotoai> okay thanks very much for the help!
[11:23] <elfy> welcome
[11:36] <roosbeef> so i just upgraded to 13.10 on my laptop. All of a sudden power settings are totally messed up (imo) - when i close the lid it suspends (used to just keep running and lock screen), when pressing power button it immediately shuts down (used to ask) -- how do i restore this to old settings?
[11:45] <Ofloo> Hi, i've got a question, i've got multidisplay setup, with 12.04LTS works fine however i've got 2 tiny problems guess, when i boot the logon prompt isn't on the middle one it's on the first one, .. and for some reason when i enable Xinerama xfce4-panel crashes
[11:46] <Ofloo> does anyone know why that is
[11:46] <Ofloo> Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0"  something like that happens
[11:46] <Ofloo> the error i mean
[11:47] <Ofloo> however i've installed arand
[11:47] <Ofloo> however i've installed arandr
[11:49] <brainwash> roosbeef: see bug 1222021
[11:50] <brainwash> roosbeef: there is a PPA with a patched xfce4-power-manager available (comment #9)
[11:50] <brainwash> feel free to test it and report back, this will help to fix this issue
[11:51] <roosbeef> cool thanks brainwash
[11:53] <roosbeef> ok yea so changing HandleLidSwitch=ignore in logind.conf worked (had to remove the # too which i didnt before)
[11:54] <roosbeef> i havent installed the ppa, firstly because i prefer not to install repository-external packages, and secondly because in the comment it said another bug was introduced by that package..
[11:54] <Ofloo> this sucks where can i set the primary monitor cause wine goes to the left monitor as well
[11:55] <roosbeef> ok so i guess that logind was overriding the powersettings config, set lid and powerkey both to ignore in logind.conf and reset logind, works fine now :) thanks brainwash
[12:00] <mara> salve a tutti
[12:01] <mara> I can write in italian or english?
[12:04] <elfy> english please
[12:04] <mara> ok i will try
[12:04] <mara> so i just installed xubuntu on my compaq nx 7300
[12:05] <mara> but i can see that wifi it's not working
[12:05] <mara> you know why?
[12:51] <Ofloo> can anyone answer how i run "xrandr --output DFP6 --primary" at boot ? so it applies to all sessions
[12:51] <baizon> Ofloo: try arandr
[12:52] <Ofloo> that doesn't do what i want
[12:52] <Ofloo> everything works fine only one tiny thingy
[12:52] <Ofloo> i want my center montor to be primary
[12:52] <Ofloo> and it's using the left one as primary
[12:52] <Ofloo> so when is start wine with a game it falls back to the left monitor which is anoying
[12:53] <Ofloo> also when i get my logon screen it's on the left side
[12:53] <Ofloo> rather then the center
[12:53] <Ofloo> that i could live with
[12:53] <Sysi> Ofloo: add it to /etc/rc.local
[12:53] <Ofloo> thanks
[12:55]  * Ofloo boots and crosses his fingers
[12:56] <Ofloo> no that didn't do it
[12:58] <brainwash> add it to the startup applications (settings manager > session and startup)
[12:58] <brainwash> /etc/rc.local might get executed even before the X server is up and running
[13:01] <Ofloo> would it work if i put it in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[13:11] <Ofloo> i guess taht worked
[13:11] <Ofloo> however on my logon screen the logon thingy is still on the left
[13:11] <Ofloo> pff have to figur that out later i guess
[13:12] <Ofloo> maybe it doesn't depend on primary
[13:12] <Ofloo> have to look into that
[13:12] <gema_> hello, im installing xubuntu and as i was sugessted by the installation i clickek to joing the irc . Is still installing, do i have do do anything else after installation? do i have to install drivers and all that like in windows?
[13:13] <Ofloo> gema_: that depends i guess
[13:13] <Ofloo> on the hardware and on what version, ..
[13:13] <Ofloo> if the version supports your hardware then no
[13:13] <gema_> i choosed the options to downlad updates while installing and to download mp3
[13:13] <Ofloo> if it doesn't you might have to
[13:13] <gema_> mmm, i havent checked compatibility lists (if there is one)
[13:14] <gema_> and the installation havent told me that my computer is not compatible
[13:14] <Unit193> gema_: Just check Settings Manager > Additional Drivers  after, and see if it's good.
[13:14] <Ofloo> this is no different from windows i guess if on install the kernel/os supports your hardware then you'll be just fine
[13:14] <Ofloo> otherwise you'll have to install the drivers
[13:14] <gema_> oke, i will check the additional drivers after installation
[13:15] <gema_> is still installing from by usb
[13:16] <gema_> nevertheless, as i am online even during installation, i could guess i would be able to be online after running from harddisk, is that true? if not afeter reestarting if something goes wrong i dont have other computer to join the irc and ask
[13:19] <gema_> it seems i will going to need and aditional graphics drivers, the screen is doing strange things (color of closed windows stays there unless y move a window around the whole screen)...
[13:55] <lobo_> hi everyone
[13:56] <lobo_> Do you have any idea what this process is supposed to be?
[13:56] <lobo_> /usr/bin/X:0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 nolisten tcp vt7 novtswitch -background none
[13:56] <lobo_> it overloads my cpu
[14:51] <xubuntu774> hey all
[14:51] <xubuntu774> installing xubuntu as I type this. I've installed it several times yesterday and after the install the system doesn't boot. I'm not sure why.
[14:52] <xubuntu774> dell 1501 is the laptop
[15:12] <vampatori> Hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu on a really old machine and I'm having problems.  I'm getting a blank screen when booting from the installation disc.  So I get the command line stuff, then the graphical boot comes up, then it goes blank.  I can get into the terminal (ALT + F1, etc.) and X doesn't seem to be running.  I run startx and it switches to it but blank, back on the console the last thing is "Loading extension GL
[15:12] <vampatori> Any ideas on how to proceed?
[15:15] <rocoro> hi, how do I get my monitor to stop turning off every 10 minutes..  I want this applied at startup.. the settings in screensaver do not work.. this is on 12.04
[15:21] <vampatori> rocoro - That sounds like a power management setting to me rather than a screensaver.  I don't have Xubuntu running in front of me though so maybe they're one and the same thing.
[15:22] <vampatori> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7215
[15:23] <rocoro> vampatori,  i've tried that already .. and does not work
[15:23] <rocoro> its like the file in xorg.conf.d directory doesn't get acknowledged
[15:23] <rocoro> or.. noblank isn't doing anything
[15:24] <rocoro> i'm trying this  xset s -dpms  for now..  maybe that will work?
[15:25] <vampatori> I'm not sure, without it in front of me I can't tinker.  Certainly worth a try.
[15:27] <rocoro> so far blanktime,   xset s off,  and noblank don't seem to do anything and it doesn't work with the file placed in xorg.conf.d either :(
[15:28] <vampatori> Are you restarting X between making these changes?  Might be worth a go.
[15:29] <rocoro> I reboot the whole machine,   sometimes it does seem to work and other times not
[15:30] <rocoro> or sometimes the monitor will shut off like maybe 3 times,  then it stops doing that and behaves with just black screen set at the time i have set in screensaver settings
[15:31] <rocoro> very strange
[15:31] <vampatori> Indeed.  Might have to try asking in the forums.
[16:56] <Ofloo> hmm, .. why is it if i configure dhcp for eth0 in /etc/networking/interfaces that the icon isn't working proper anymore
[17:04] <drc> Running 13.10, <I> don't have a "/etc/networking/interfaces".  I have a "/etc/network/interfaces".
[17:06] <cub> drc, I think it's /etc/network/interfaces in 12.04 too
[17:13] <sebokie> hello
[17:13] <sebokie> how can I get xubuntu to automount dvd's?
[17:15] <drc> Menu>Settings Manager>Removable Drives>Storage & Multimedia has some config options.  I'd start there.
[17:16] <sebokie> yes I saw it but it doesn't work
[17:21] <drc> Is this just a problem with DVD's?  Do CD's and/or USB sticks automount?
[17:24] <xubuntu854> Hi Just wrote 1310 to DVD.  What next?
[17:24] <drc> xubuntu854: reboot from DVS and install.
[17:25] <drc> sebokie: and by automount, do you mean just automount (shows up in thunar) or do you automount and play in $MEDIAPLAYER ?
[17:26] <xubuntu854> Sorry, but need it even simple. How do I reboot?
[17:26] <drc> s/DVS/DVD
[17:27] <drc> xubuntu854:   Easiest way, turn the computer off and then back on, making sure you tell it to boot brom the DVD, not the hdd.
[17:27] <xubuntu854> ta muchly.  Will try.
[17:27] <drc> enjoy
[18:24] <Ofloo> sorry for the late answer it is network for me as well, .. typo
[18:24] <Ofloo> couldn't answer was playing starcraft 2 and due to wine i was locked to the game
[18:40] <sebokie> drc, yes I only meant automount the dvd
[18:40] <sebokie> it seems thunar is not able to do it
[18:40] <sebokie> so I unchecked the volume manager in thunar and installed udevil
[18:40] <sebokie> and now everything mounts automatically
[19:04] <monkeynaut> when i reboot my machine, sometimes my wireless mouse doesn't work correctly.   it is recognized and the cursor moves, but it moves extremely laggy, like a centimeter per second.  rebooting usually corrects it, sometimes i have to reboot twice.   the whole time my built in stick mouse on my laptop works fine.  this has happened on multiple distros.   it also happens on two different devices (two different logitech m570 wireless trackballs
[19:05] <monkeynaut> is there a way to restart just the USB services without rebooting the machine?
[19:07] <flux242> monkeynaut: yes you can disable and enable a usb device using a simple script
[19:07] <monkeynaut> flux242: is it sudo restart udev?
[19:08] <flux242> monkeynaut: no, wait a sec
[19:08] <monkeynaut> k
[19:09] <flux242> monkeynaut: the keyword to google is bind/unbind usb. The first arcticle I've found http://lwn.net/Articles/143397/
[19:10] <monkeynaut> thanks, i'm having the problem right now so i'll give it a shot
[19:14] <flux242> monkeynaut: the tricky part is to find the device path when it is unbound. I've written a script for that very long time ago
[20:18] <Uszasty> Hi. Is there any command to some kind of reboot monitor? Something like when I'm suspending computer?
[20:19] <TheSheep> xfce4-session-logout
[20:20] <TheSheep> try it with --help
[20:20] <ROPA> How do I change permissions on a cd-rw?? The sudo chmod command fails, and gives the error that it is a read only disk. The disk was previously used in a windows machine years ago. Do I need to reformat the cd?? I'm stuck.
[20:27] <TheSheep> ROPA: you can't, it's read-only
[20:29] <Sysi> use xfburn
[20:32] <Uszasty> I have very specific question, I don't know if this can be repaired within system, or it's something hardware-related
[20:34] <Uszasty> I have very old laptop, which seems to have broken trigger in that part where screen is(I dont know how to spell it in english, sorry :P)
[20:35] <Uszasty> And it's randomly turning blacklight on and off
[20:35] <Uszasty> backlight*
[20:35] <Uszasty> And only solution that i found by far is suspending or shutting down system
[20:37] <Uszasty> And I'm just wondering if backlight in notebooks is controlled from hardware or from system
[20:43] <ROPA> TheSheep but it's a rewritable disk!!!! How come I can't write to it????
[20:44] <Sysi> ROPA: first make it blank with xfburn
[20:44] <ROPA> Sysi I tried xfburn, but it doesn't allow me to blank the disk. Should I be trying to do something else??
[20:45] <Sysi> not AFAIK
[20:45] <Sysi> are you sure the disc is still good and you have rw and not rom optical drive?
[20:46] <Myrtti> I've never succeeded with a -rw disk
[20:47] <Sysi> I actually have, but I might have used k3b
[20:47] <Sysi> it was years ago
[20:48] <ROPA> Sysi The drive is a modern drive that does everything. One of the logo's on the front of it says 'rw'. I have a whole stack of these disks and I can read from them, so they are likely not defective.....
[20:51] <Sysi> ROPA: do you get some error if you start xfburn from terminal?
[20:53] <ROPA> Here's what it says if I start xfburn........
[20:53] <ROPA> Possibly the disc(s) are in use, and cannot get accessed.
[20:53] <ROPA> Please unmount and restart the application.
[20:53] <ROPA> If no disc is in the drive, check that you have read and write access to the drive with the current user.
[20:53] <ROPA> then, xf burn will not start.
[20:56] <ROPA> I'll try it in my laptop and see if it fails there too.
[20:56] <ROPA> I do get the same error if I start it from terminal.
[21:03] <ROPA> thanks to all for the guidance-not sure what's going on though. Permissions say it's read only, but the sudo chmod command doesn't do anything (although it appears to run without errors).
[23:21] <gema1> hello, i dediced to replace my windows os with xubuntu, everything works very good but i cant play my facebook flash games. I have being googling and it looks like in linux flash is to slow. Still we dont have a solution to play flash games on linux? i dont want to go back to windows just because i cant play those games.
[23:22] <gema1> or do we hace a flash alternative that will improve perfomance in flash games?
[23:23] <gema1> have*
[23:24] <Unit193> gema1: Howdy again.  What version do you have?
[23:25] <gema1> i instaled and upgraded LTS
[23:25] <Unit193> Well, what version of flash?
[23:25] <gema1> lets me chech flash player version in a youtube video
[23:25] <Unit193> Package?
[23:26] <gema1> 11.2.202.335
[23:27] <brainwash> you should consider installing google chrome, it includes the latest flash version
[23:28] <Unit193> (Or pull flash from that and use it in chromium. :P )
[23:29] <gema1> so i should uninstall my flash package from the ubuntu software center and then install chromium or chrome? that would improve flash performance in my xubuntu?
[23:29] <brainwash> worth a try
[23:30] <drc> gema1: I have heard/read that turning off "hardware accelerstion" in Flash can speed it up.  No promises :)
[23:30] <gema1> ok, im going to try
[23:30] <brainwash> drc: in flash games
[23:30] <brainwash> ?
[23:31] <gema1> yes im just worring about flash games, videos play ok (but overheat my laptop) but games are so slow i cant even play them
[23:31] <drc> dunno, just something I've read. I mentioned it 'cause it'll only take 30 seconds to try.
[23:32] <gema1> i going to unistall flash and install chrome or chromium and check
[23:33] <brainwash> chrome might improve the situation, because (1) chrome is more responsive in general and (2) flash player version 12.x comes with some performance improvements compared to the old version 11.2
[23:36] <brainwash> gema1: chromium does not ship or use the new flash version out of the box, only chrome does
[23:37] <gema1> but chrome is not on the repositories
[23:37] <gema1> i just intalled chromium and i was going to try
[23:37] <gema1> should i go to Chrome web page?
[23:41] <gema1> buf, right, with chromium i cant even watch movies (i unisntalled flash before installing chromium) so it says i have to install flash (the same version i had), by the way, im my windows, uninstalling flash i could play the videos of youtube in html5 without flash, why i cant with chromium?
[23:43] <gema1> firefox does play the videos in html5 :) love firefox
[23:43] <gema1> so chromium is not the path
[23:43] <gema1> i will try chrome
[23:56] <gema1> perfect, with chrome i have latest Flash Version and seems much faster on video playing, i will check facebook games now
[23:58] <xubuntu523> i got a problem, i just installed xubuntu to my computer, i'm dual booting it, but i don't get the grub, instead i just get the default windows boot options screen, what do i do?