[00:00] <valorie> I always prefer to support free open source when possible
[00:00] <mikhas> well yes, but in which way do plan on supporting it? ;-)
[00:00] <mikhas> loaded question I know
[00:02] <valorie> using it and being willing to file bugs is support
[00:02] <valorie> imo
[00:34] <ahoneybun> hello
[03:46] <ahoneybun> hey sgclark
[07:48] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1270571] Systemsettings crash when interrupting kcm-language at loading @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270571 (by KDEUSER56)
[07:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:28] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1240122] After log in the geometry of the widgets and windows are shown rotated. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240122 (by Konstantinos Koukos)
[09:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 1270389
[09:15] <apachelogger> libqt4-sql-mysql, depends, recommends or maybe suggests?
[09:24] <tsimpson> it'd be better if it didn't offer the option to use MySQL if the driver isn't installed
[09:27] <tsimpson> I suppose I'd say suggests though, as it's an alternative to the default
[09:33] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1201180] Pressing power button turns off the PC ignoring the presence of another session manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1201180 (by Marco Trevisan (Treviño))
[09:51] <apachelogger> hm
[09:51] <apachelogger> tsimpson: actually maybe we should just get the bug upstreamed
[09:52] <tsimpson> apachelogger: probably the best thing to do
[09:52] <apachelogger> righ then, suggests and upstreaming
[09:52] <apachelogger> since suggests has no real life consequences anyway :S
[09:54] <tsimpson> which is half the reason I think it's the right way to go :p
[09:54] <apachelogger> yeah, well, it solves the issue on a theoretical level, not much good for the user that is
[09:55] <apachelogger> ultimately digikam would adhoc install the driver if the user selected the mysql collection thing
[09:56] <tsimpson> it seems it just reads the list of drivers from an XML file and presents them all to the user as options
[09:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, xnox: please note that digikam has a bzr branch for the packaging that both of you casually ignored to use for the 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2 to ubuntu5 uploads :P
[09:58] <apachelogger> tsimpson: people should stop using high level tooling for complex applications IMHO
[09:58] <apachelogger> same with designer ui files
[09:58] <apachelogger> they usually cause more trouble than they are worth
[09:59] <tsimpson> who knew it took a DOM parser to present a selection dialog...
[09:59] <valorie> shadeslayer might be absent for a bit
[09:59] <valorie> he said his grandfather is hospitalized with a brain infection
[09:59] <valorie> so he might not make it to FOSDEm
[10:00] <apachelogger> oh my
[10:00] <valorie> yeah
[10:00] <valorie> :(
[10:02] <valorie> having delivered that icky news, I'm heading to bed
[10:03] <apachelogger> valorie: nn
[10:08] <apachelogger> digikam synced to bzr and uploaded
[10:08] <apachelogger> done with bugs mails \o/
[10:13] <apachelogger> meh
[10:13] <apachelogger> amd64 still oversized -.-
[10:15] <apachelogger> wgrant: are we going to ship with python3.3 and python3.4 for trusty or is that just transitional?
[10:19] <wgrant> apachelogger: I'd hope we'd drop 3.3 before release, but it probably depends on how the migration to 3.4 goes. doko would be the person to talk to.
[10:24] <apachelogger> mh, I'll try to make space for it on the ISO, to be on the safe side
[10:41] <apachelogger> :/
[10:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: how does one build language-pack-common?
[10:48] <jarkko> the language files sh ould be included in the installer iso
[10:48] <jarkko> on slow connection it takes too much time to get them
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:00] <jarkko> when you install new wallpapers on kde, where does it get the new papers?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> jarkko, right click on the desktop, choose Desfault Desktop Settings>View, either "default wallpapers" or "get new wallpapers" or "open" , which opens dolphin and you can use pics stored on your pc
[11:08] <BluesKaj> of course the layout has to be default desktop
[11:12] <jarkko> BluesKaj: i mean from where it downloads new papers
[11:14] <BluesKaj> not sure jarkko , but I think it's from here http://kde-look.org/
[11:23] <Quintasan> Hi.
[11:23] <jarkko> BluesKaj: looks like it
[11:23] <jarkko> BluesKaj: does all kde distros use that?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> hi Quintasan
[11:24] <BluesKaj> jarkko, again , not sure, but i think so
[11:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: What happened to the guy I started tutoring on merging?
[11:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger:  must have missed it
[11:27] <Quintasan> christ
[11:27] <Quintasan> forgot to ask about FOSDEM
[11:27] <Quintasan> !@#$@!
[11:29] <apachelogger> Quintasan: FOSDEM?
[11:29] <apachelogger> there, I fixed it
[11:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: gibe moneys so I can go.
[11:30] <apachelogger> oh, you are mighty late mate
[11:30] <apachelogger> also you need to ask the council
[11:30] <apachelogger> not me
[11:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I realised that, that's why I'm cursing
[11:31] <apachelogger> technically you were praying I guess
[11:32] <Quintasan> Well, I guess you could interpret it that way I guess.
[11:32]  * Quintasan goes into hiding
[14:58] <jarkko__> why so quiet here today?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> good question, maybe the devs are all busy
[18:15] <ahoneybun> valorie: http://www.scribus.net/canvas/About
[18:23] <jarkko_> anyone here?
[18:23] <soee> yup
[18:23] <soee> as always :)
[18:23] <Riddell> sure
[18:24] <jarkko_> i dont exactly know what happened but my deskop somehow broke
[18:24] <jarkko_> well its almost fixed now
[18:24] <jarkko_> but
[18:24] <jarkko_> if i add empty panel, there is not even k-panel on it
[18:24] <jarkko_> i think there should be
[18:26] <jarkko__> well its fixed now
[18:26] <jarkko__> but shouldnt there be k-panel on empty panel?
[18:31] <jarkko_______> none of the running programs doesnt seem to go panel
[18:32] <jarkko_______> ??
[18:33] <soee> k-panel ?
[18:34] <soee> empty panel adds just empty panel
[18:34] <Riddell> jussi: lovely stickers :)
[18:34] <soee> try to add Default panel
[18:34] <soee> it contains all defualt wiedgets
[18:43] <jarkko> i got working
[18:43] <jarkko> but there was no such thing than default panel
[18:43] <jarkko> only empty
[19:27] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1270925] unable to update, remove and install packages because of libqt4 errors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1270925 (by prads)