=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === bfiller is now known as bfiller_away === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [08:19] popey: hey, once you are around: are you on latest nux/unity (and if so, it's not crashing for you I guess, on the x220?) [08:20] didrocks: morning! [08:20] didrocks: I'm on saucy on my laptop, trusty on nvidia desktop [08:20] so sure, can test latest of whatever on desktop [08:26] popey: that would be excellent if you can confirm :) [08:27] kk [08:27] popey: or even maybe just a usb stick in live mode for the laptop? [08:27] popey: I think testing on the x220 like that would be helpful :) [08:29] I have been resisting moving to 14.04 [08:29] I will when I migrate to btrfs, probably on the weekend [08:31] popey: yeah, so live usb seems to be the way to go for now :) [08:32] didrocks: unity is fine on my trusty desktop [08:32] ensure on the live that you have unity 7.1.2+14.04.20131106.1-0ubuntu2 and libnux-4.0-0 4.0.3+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu2 [08:32] ah [08:32] popey: I'm interested on the x220 (hence the live usb so that you don't scratch your system) [08:32] glew isn't used on nvidia [08:32] ah [08:33] meh [08:33] * popey moves to 14.04 [08:37] popey: just use a live session, don't break your laptop! [08:37] :) [08:37] I am outraged that you suggest upgrades don't work! [08:43] ahah, I'm not. I just don't want you to end up in a session where you can't use your laptop :p [08:45] * popey installs gnome-shell ☻ [08:47] popey: heh, I fallbacked to it as well! [08:53] The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade [08:53] process. [08:53] bah! [08:54] argh, something else then ;) [08:54] if you can note them :p [08:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6784779/ [08:54] waow, more information on those? [08:54] like overwriting files? [08:55] apt-get -f install, it wants to pull in another truckload of packages [08:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6784782/ [08:56] * popey continues with teh configuring [08:56] yep [08:57] I'm pretty sur eyou had an overwrite [08:57] which blocked [08:57] (would be great to get your apt full logs of the previous update) [08:57] once you finish your update ;) [08:57] from dpkg.log? [08:58] oh, there's a dist-upgrade log too, handy [08:58] popey: /var/log/apt/term.log rather [08:58] oh ;) === ev changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: ev | Landing instructions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6292280/ | Known issues: - [09:28] fginther: the inexplicable otto crashes that went away are now back :'( https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-trusty/2150/? [10:19] tsdgeos: fginther is not up and today is a US holiday IIUC, so better ping the vanguard in the topic line ;) [10:19] tsdgeos: that said, a quick look in the log file (https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-trusty/2151/consoleFull) reveals : [10:19] tsdgeos: /home/ubuntu/.xsession-errors: init: unity8 main process (7403) killed by SEGV signal [10:19] i know [10:20] tsdgeos: /var/log/syslog: Jan 20 09:34:02 trusty-amd64-20131210-1707 kernel: [842034.353231] QThread[30955]: segfault at 1cf16 ip 000000000001cf16 sp 00007f50255e0228 error 14 in unity8[400000+c000] [10:20] i was not really asking for help [10:20] i was just telling fginther [10:20] it crashes [10:20] just on those machines and noone else can reproduce [10:20] tsdgeos: I didn't sync with fginther since Friday but I think it's a different issue [10:20] ha [10:20] this was happening a few weeks ago [10:20] then it went away [10:20] and now is back [10:21] tsdgeos: unity8 crash ? (Making sure we're indeed talking about the same thing) [10:21] yes [10:22] ok, I didn't heard about that then, sorry [10:23] huh [10:23] After flashing to the latest image, it seems my unity-system-compositor dies [10:24] terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl >' [10:24] what(): could not activate surface with eglMakeCurrent [10:24] I guess it might be the same issue discussed? [10:25] not sure [10:25] can't find that line in any of the logs of the build [10:25] but might be [10:26] tsdgeos: actually, nevermind, misread the discussion just now ;) Carry on! === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:28] ogra_: hm, I remember that on the meeting just now there has been some mention of mir session env variable not being set properly, yes? [10:28] sil2100, for adb sessions, yeah [10:29] ogra_: since u-s-c fails on my device after stating: Unable to set active session, unknown client name session-0 [10:29] that was fixed in 136 [10:32] I wonder why it's crashing here [10:33] sil2100, thats an unmodified image 137 ? [10:34] (system image that is ... we know the cdimage install seems to have issues, but thats lower prio) [10:35] ogra_: system image, unmodified, 137 (just downloaded and installed) - maybe it's some user config data? [10:36] shouldnt, but try the fix we are discussing in -touch since a while [10:36] we know there seems to be a race with setting the QPA_PLUGIN var [10:36] err, QPA_PLATFORM [10:48] ogra_: yeah, that fix helped - so it seems MIR_SOCKET thing was the problem [10:49] yep, we see that in the test rrsults between 136 and 137 [10:50] thanks for confirming === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:23] didrocks: had to jump out for a short while, my girlfriends dog is at the vet dying, so had to take her there so she can say goodbyes [12:23] didrocks: but regarding ubuntu-keyboard [12:23] didrocks: it seems its broken ;/ [12:23] silDroid: argh, just ping directly bfiller_away with those once he's around [12:24] (probably tomorrow) [12:24] didrocks: the new version just segfaults on start... [12:24] silDroid: thanks for the catchup [12:24] ogra_: hey, did we already got an image after reverting the nested support? [12:24] rsalveti, building ... [12:24] silDroid: what are you testing? you need new seed if you're using new keyboard === bfiller_away is now known as bfiller [12:25] silDroid: you will be able to do the rest after a while [12:25] ogra_: did you have a chance to look at the MR I sent you? https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty-keyboard-english/+merge/201879 [12:25] bfiller: isn't today a national holidays for you? :) [12:25] ogra_: great [12:25] rsalveti, not really [12:25] silDroid: as bfiller suggested, you installed all ubuntu-keyboard- packages, right? [12:25] didrocks: yes but I'm working part of it anyway, capetown sprint going on.. [12:26] bfiller, sil2100 is on it ... [12:26] bfiller: ah ok [12:26] bfiller: hi! I was testing the ubuntu-keyboard from the ppa [12:26] bfiller, he is testing your package changes first before i make the seed changes [12:26] silDroid: make sure to install ubuntu-keyboard-english [12:26] ogra_: sure, just wanted a cdimage that could have a working shell at least [12:27] bfiller: hm [12:27] but not sure anymore if that was because of the nested merge [12:27] rsalveti, well, we'll land it again ... after the UI ordering issue is fixed i suppose [12:27] right [12:27] rsalveti, though by experience that ight take another 8 weeks [12:27] bfiller: will try, but then I guess we need to modify the packaging [12:27] yeah =\ [12:28] rsalveti, it was ... something is racy in setting MIR_SOCKET apparently [12:28] bfiller: since it leads to a situation that without it installed (which can be done) it crashes on start [12:28] rsalveti, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/ ... image 136 and 137 are identical ... no changes at all ... 137 has the same error messages as you reported ... 136 doesnt (and local tests here dont either) [12:29] bfiller: I installed ubuntu-keyboard-polish, set the key language to polish in settings, rebooted and it was the same [12:29] ogra_: hm, right [12:29] silDroid: you need to set the active-language key [12:29] rsalveti, so it looks like cdimage hits that race condition harder [12:30] silDroid: actually 2 keys need to be set [12:30] bfiller: system settings doesnt do that when switching keyboard layouts? [12:30] silDroid: it's not been updated yet, I talked to attente about it [12:31] silDroid: gsettings set com.canonical.keyboard.maliit enabled-languages "['en','pl']" [12:31] silDroid: gsettings set com.canonical.keyboard.maliit active-language pl [12:32] bfiller: ok, I will try that once back, but I guess we'll have to wait with osk to be released with system-settings then, not to break existing functionality [12:32] silDroid: the existing functionality in system settings doesn't work already [12:32] silDroid: so don't know if we need to wait for it [12:33] but fine with me [12:41] rsalveti, cdimage part is done [12:42] ogra_: great, thanks [12:52] didrocks, fyi ... http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20140120.1.changes [12:52] (seems we dragged in new e-d-s and a bunch of other bits [12:52] ) [12:52] ogra_: ok, so we grabbed latest systemd as well [12:53] yep [12:53] let's see… :p [12:53] the diff isn't published yet on system-image [12:53] for mako [12:53] yep, still running [12:54] ogra_: I'm anxious now :) [12:54] why ? [12:54] well, I hope the image will be back in shape, e-d-s and systemd… let's see :p [12:55] we built images for years like that :) 90% of them worked [12:55] I think the pass rate is lower for touch though of promotable images :) [12:55] didrocks: why do we have systemd installed? Is it just that half the components we need are integrated into it now? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:56] davmor2: we do have for sure udev coming from systemd [12:56] systemd package itself, hum… [12:56] davmor2, systemd swallowed all important plumbing sources [12:56] ah, we do use logind [12:56] davmor2: so that's why ^ [12:56] ogra_: yeah that is what I thought [12:56] oh, wait, the binary shouldnt be there !" [12:57] ah, only -services [12:57] that might be for hostname changing [12:57] ogra_: it isn't I just saw about pulling in systemd and wondered why sorry [12:57] ogra_: yeah, hostname (and maybe logind is using it too) [12:57] right [12:59] ogra_, didrocks: did you see the announcement that systemd is soon to start running gnome soon too (opt in/out, by all accounts) [13:00] * ogra_ only knows the discussion about that from 2 years ago [13:01] ogra_: https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/iCNySJKFseo there was a better one somewhere on google plus too I think [13:01] well,let them [13:02] * ogra_ doesnt care what gnome uses to be honest [13:02] well, we do that with upstart as well, we have session support [13:02] (but no kdbus) === josepht changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: josepht | Landing instructions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6292280/ | Known issues: - [13:03] there we go [13:03] === Image 138 DONE === [13:05] yeah \o/ [13:05] * didrocks upgrades [13:05] hum, should reset to vanilla config first [13:06] nah, that tears out all excitement :P [13:06] ahah :) [13:07] I'm still unsure what I shold kill from /userdata [13:07] just flasdh with --wipe/--bootstrap/--whatever-is-the-wiping-option-of-the-day [13:07] ah infact here you go https://plus.google.com/115250422803614415116/posts/apZrj54GYee [13:07] well, I would prefer to start being smarter :) [13:08] pfft, your phones is already smart ... [13:08] heh [13:08] ok, trying to rm -rf /usrerdata/*, let's see what happens :p [13:08] at worse, I'll reflash [13:09] ogra_: it was smart with android it has to be smarter now it has ubuntu on right? [13:10] ogra_: cdimage on maguro still failing with 'Failed to load platform plugin "ubuntu". Available platforms are...' [13:10] with 138 [13:11] rsalveti, properly wiped ? [13:11] ogra_: yup, flashed with -b [13:12] ogra_: trying to run with SF [13:12] let me see with mir now [13:12] stacking issue is gone here on maguro [13:12] account creation still has issues for me though [13:13] cool, worked with mir, let me try what slangasek said on that thread [13:13] flash in progress here with -b [13:13] rsalveti, he reverted that stuff in 135already [13:13] err 136 [13:14] ogra_, didrocks: maguro still rebooting, mako bbc news installed [13:14] 136 and 137 both have his change ... [13:14] davmor2, did you try removing and re-adding the U1 account ? [13:14] davmor2: I guess while we are getting a test for wifi, you will need a "wipe data and connect to a wifi hotspot, enter WPA/WEP" [13:14] ogra_: no I'm going to try that on maguro [13:15] hmpf, now system-settings doesnt even get me into accounts anymore [13:15] popey: why is there a big gap at the top of the bbc news app [13:15] thats where popey will place his ads soon ;) [13:15] there is? [13:15] hum, lot of failures when copying… [13:16] didrocks, copying ? [13:16] failed to copy '/home/didrocks/Téléchargements/phablet-flash/imageupdates/pool/ubuntu-dbad0141353e07914b8a6fdf462ac9a4e18994eb768c9f4a5c1d0e27e5500c5b.tar.xz' to '/cache/recovery/': Is a directory [13:16] wow [13:16] * didrocks retries [13:17] * ogra_ reboots again, i definitely cant create a U1 account here [13:18] yay [13:18] ok, passed it seems [13:18] so after 3 reboots it allowed me to [13:19] so I was able to remove the account and add it back again and managed to crash unity8 in the process [13:19] * ogra_ installs an app [13:20] ogra_: right, tried to check the qtubuntu package split, but it fails with both qtubuntu-android and qtubuntu-desktop [13:21] SF support is definitely broken [13:22] rsalveti, well, then it is time to call it dead i guess [13:22] ogra_: I'm not that sure yet [13:22] or do you want to invest time into it [13:22] I don't, but I know we had a plan to drop it [13:22] * ogra_ doesnt think it matters if we do it now or in two weeks [13:23] if so, we should just warn the porters and give them directions for proper mir support [13:24] right [13:24] i think the plan to drop SF was definite ... [13:24] so i would say it doesnt matter if we drop it a few weeks earlier [13:25] but thats an asac decision indeed [13:25] right, I know we want to drop it, but we wanted it to be planned :-) [13:25] not as a side effect :-) [13:26] rsalveti, well, we would have to find out as side effect of *what* first [13:26] which will eat time [13:26] ... and then fix it as well ... [13:27] keeping SF around was done because of phonedations team think it is a) cheap and b) useful for bringup... once it is a) expensive and b) not really useful anymore, I don't see a reason to keep it around [13:27] :P [13:27] asac: sure, but we should first sync with the oem team [13:27] ogra_: ok, both setting up wifi and associating an account works here [13:27] if they are ok, then fine [13:27] aka achiang [13:27] rsalveti: yeah, we could check tomorrow on the sim call [13:27] asac, b) is definitely always true [13:28] going step by step via SF to Mir makes porting surely easier [13:28] davmor2: popey: can you try image #138 and test it on maguro/mako? [13:28] but it doesnt lok like a) is still cheap [13:28] sure, but if SF doesnt deliver a UX that is anywhere useful, we dont need to support it anymroe in unity etc. [13:28] didrocks: ya [13:29] you can still bring up ubuntu touch [13:29] and run an example app that works on SF for instance [13:29] rsalveti, when did you try SF last ? can we even make out a point when it stopped ? [13:29] didrocks: I am [13:29] thanks popey, davmor2 [13:29] ogra_: last week or sure, probably before the qtubuntu package split [13:29] psivaa: tests started on #138? [13:29] ok [13:30] so we would only have to bisect a week [13:30] davmor2: did you change the permissions on that spreadsheet? [13:30] ogra_: I know because I was using SF with 4.4 [13:30] http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch_sf4p/ [13:30] yeah, just remembered that [13:30] seems it was last time safelyy green [13:30] popey: nope [13:30] ogra_: and MIR support for it is still not merged [13:30] fro build 121 [13:30] davmor2: i can't access it.. it's "comment only" for me [13:30] asac, we're at 138 [13:31] thats quite a few images to check [13:31] right. you asked if we know when ti was last working [13:31] dashboard says 121 or maybe 124 [13:31] yeah, thannks [13:31] 126 :) [13:31] i had forgotten we still do sf tests [13:31] popey: try it now [13:32] thanks [13:32] popey: it was on comment only but I hadn't touched it [13:32] odd. nvm [13:32] rsalveti: so what do you think? [13:33] resurrect SF or good bye? [13:33] can it even be resurrected? in particular with this nested stuff coming etc. [13:33] what everyone surely agrees is that we shouldnt start hacking SF itself :) [13:33] asac: probably, but as I said, not my call, we should sync with people that are doing bringups [13:34] rsalveti: ok lets suggest to achiang and folks tomorrow that we kill it and see [13:34] alright [13:34] rsalveti: i think you could try answer this question yourself if you ask "would i be screwed if i dont have SF to bringup a N5" [13:35] (assume you really shoot for MIR and are wiling to invest what it takes anyway) [13:35] asac: yeah, personally I'd prefer to invest my time with MIR [13:36] yeah [13:36] its just easier to get some success feedback with SF currently [13:36] since it will just work [13:36] (well, used to) [13:37] while Mir needs extra work added [13:37] but would likely be a good thing to get used to that extra work [13:37] for us as well as for the porters [13:37] (so we can answer their questions) [13:45] didrocks: mako seems okay at first pass [13:46] popey: great! [13:56] didrocks: yes, tests are running with 138 [13:57] oh, and all 100% [13:57] stop them now ! [13:58] :) [13:58] ahah ;) [14:14] popey: for you on your bbc new app do you see a grey block at the top of the app where the header should be (like a blank title bar) [14:15] davmor2, hmm, might be the new webapp-container thingie [14:15] did you try another webapp ? [14:15] ogra_: no I'm just running tests now [14:16] g+ is alright but that has it's own config iirc [14:16] davmor2, i see it in all webapps apparently ... just checked [14:16] G+ doesnt use the webbrowser-app webapp mode [14:16] use IMBD [14:16] or dict.cc [14:16] thats definitely broken :( [14:19] ogra_: indeed [14:19] davmor2, see -touch ... talking to osomon [14:29] davmor2: yes === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [16:30] * popey afk [16:36] ohhh I want popey 's telepathy hat if he can type and not be at the keyboard [16:47] i guess thats only a telepathic macro ... only says "afk" === josepht changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: cihelp | Landing instructions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6292280/ | Known issues: - [17:49] Ok, webbrowser-app is good [17:50] let it in then :) [17:51] Pushing ze button [17:51] \o/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [19:11] === Image 139 Building === [19:26] ogra_: did we get all blockers fixed in that? [19:26] e.g. regressions are under control? [19:36] asac: I think it fixes the blockers between this and reverting nested mir iirc [19:38] davmor2: not sure i understand... i think you say "no, it doesnt fix all promotion blockers" [19:38] what blocker do we expect to be still in? [19:39] asac: No I think it fixes all the blockers [19:39] asac: between reverting nested mir in 138 and the webbrowser-app fix in 139 I think all the blockers are fixed [19:41] ogra_: do you know if didrocks was going to promote 139 if everything was fixed? [19:41] asac: ^ [19:41] or are we looking to tomorrows images now? [20:05] davmor2: i asked this and in all likelyhood we won't promote this one because the next one will arrive and we'll be testing in the morning [20:06] but if it's good in the morning and the next one 140? is bad, then sure, we could [20:25] * popey updates to #139 [20:40] davmor2: didrocks would decide tomorrow morning based on findings