[07:07] <pitti> Good morning
[07:08] <elfy> morning pitti
[07:09] <pitti> hey elfy
[10:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:07] <slickymaster> morning all
[11:27] <pitti> jibel: so http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Upgrade/job/upgrade-ubuntu-saucy-trusty-desktop-amd64/ being yellow means that the dist-upgrade succeeded, but some post-upgrade test failed; in this case, the xserver.py one, I assume?
[11:27] <pitti> jibel: is that one of the tests which run in a full VM then?
[11:40] <pitti> jibel: FYI, bug 1220681 is a "real" user report for the espeak-data install failure; do you have a preferred way to tag those?
[12:00] <jibel> pitti, right. This test runs in a container, and X fails because it couldn't configure the dummy server because it is in universe on Precise and universe is disabled
[12:01] <pitti> jibel: ah, so that's known
[12:01] <jibel> pitti, tests runnign in VMs are suffixed with _vm
[12:02] <jibel> pitti, I think I'll enable universe for upgrades that uses LXC since there is also an upgrade in VM without universe
[12:07] <jibel> pitti, I found 4 other failures, 2 relatively minor bug 1270783 and bug 1270784 then running-in-container that doesn't returns it is running in a container and makes kernel upgrade fail and a problem with lightdm and a permission denied on .gvfs
[12:07] <pitti> jibel: thanks, I'll look into the apport one
[12:08] <pitti> jibel: and the espeak-data one, altough that's a bit inexplicable
[12:10] <jibel> pitti, also quantal -> trusty is wrongly named because it really Q->S
[12:12] <pitti> jibel: ah, so in theory saucy's dpkg could have a bug which isn't in quantal yet and fixed in trusty?
[12:12]  * pitti tries
[12:13] <pitti> still can't reproduce the bug with Q→ S, though
[12:14] <jibel> pitti, could it be because /var is on another devices? but it should be transparent to dpkg
[12:14] <pitti> jibel: oh, is it?
[12:15] <pitti> jibel: that's a bit hard to replicate indeed
[12:17] <jibel> pitti, I'll try in to reproduce in the lab
[12:17] <jibel> I'd like to fix that X test fialure first
[12:17] <pitti> so, I have a schroot now with a /var/ mount
[12:18] <pitti> upgrading espeak-data still works
[12:18] <pitti> jibel: this was on tmpfs, though
[12:18] <pitti> I also tried on my workstation
[12:18] <pitti> (with ext4), but there not with separate /var
[12:29] <DanChapman> good afternoon
[14:17] <slickymaster> afternoon all
[18:12] <elfy> balloons: what's your thoughts on bug 1249362
[18:14] <balloons> mm.. which testcase? any I assume
[18:15] <balloons> I guess we can clarify to select your language and click install ubuntu.. the thing is, everything will be translated, so it won't necessarily align
[18:16] <elfy> I'd assume that - or at least any/all of those which are install based with a language choice
[18:16] <elfy> oh - that'd be fun - translating all the testcases :p
[18:18] <elfy> personally I'm not sure it's that important
[18:20] <slickymaster> elfy: that would be a Herculean task
[18:21] <elfy> I was joking :D
[18:21] <elfy> about the translating anyway
[18:21] <elfy> slickymaster: did it bring you out in a cold sweat? :p
[18:22]  * slickymaster gotta confess that a cold chill invaded him
[18:23] <elfy> nice to see that people are obviously testing our stuff - bugs appearing for testcases :)
[18:23] <balloons> :-) indeed
[18:23] <slickymaster> yeah, I noticed
[18:24] <balloons> and yea.. I suppose we could clarify it a little, but we should be careful
[18:24] <balloons> you can/ should install in your native tongue but the instructions are english onlyu
[18:24] <elfy> mmm
[18:24] <balloons> lp is only english too.. so for bug filing you need basic comprehension.. for better or worse
[18:25] <elfy> balloons: that makes sense - I'll start looking at that soon if you like
[18:25] <balloons> ty.. i'll bbl
[20:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi