[00:06] <zanzacar> Maybe I will just play some nethack or something. That game has always been kind of fun.
[00:06] <zanzacar> Does anyone know of any other terminal games?
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[00:30] <KI7MT> zanzacar, there's loads of them: http://efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=116626
[00:32] <KI7MT> If your just bored, there's some fun things in here: http://www.tecmint.com/20-funny-commands-of-linux-or-linux-is-fun-in-terminal/
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[01:32] <lkthomas> hey guys
[01:33] <lkthomas> for Kerberos, how to set it up so that I only need to sign in once to access all servers ?
[01:59] <Patrickdk> lkthomas, that is pretty simple
[01:59] <Patrickdk> you set it up so kerberos gives you a tgt on login
[01:59] <Patrickdk> then every service you access, has to accept the kerberos tickets for auth, instead of username/password
[02:12] <lkthomas> Patrickdk: any guide I could follow for this setup ?
[02:14] <Patrickdk> kerberos?
[02:14] <lkthomas> yeah, the one you just mention
[02:14] <lkthomas> tgt, and service access ticketrs
[02:14] <Patrickdk> ya, the kerberos documentation
[02:14] <lkthomas> errr
[02:14] <Patrickdk> atleast, I followed it pretty well, back in '95
[02:14] <lkthomas> right
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[02:39] <ethermonk> php based web page running on localhost spitting out "Permission denied (13) in /var/www/system/library/session.php"   any ideas?
[02:42] <Patrickdk> ya
[02:42] <Patrickdk> you have a Permission issue
[02:43] <ethermonk> what do i do?
[02:43] <ethermonk> never seen this befor
[02:43] <ethermonk> getting this error from opencart. never had trouble with opencart on ubuntu before
[02:47] <ethermonk> http://pastebin.com/gfpmWGbL
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[03:39] <zanzacar> KI7MT: Thanks thats great. I am going to have to try that out.
[03:55] <zanzacar> KI7MT: Man I thought I could play monop against the computer but I can only play by myself. Tetris is cool though
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[04:16] <ethermonk> must have been something to do with the server cache. walked away to fix a sink, came back and all my problems went away on their own.
[05:52] <nickenchuggets> Is it okay to not require auth for SMTP?
[05:53] <nickenchuggets> It seems if I enable sasl for SMTP, then I can't receive any mail.
[05:54] <nickenchuggets> I basically just need a pretty basic setup, I only need to be able to send and receive mail, but I want to have a local client that can send and receive mail as well.
[05:55] <nickenchuggets> I'm using Apple's Mail client.
[05:56] <nickenchuggets> I seem to have IMAP configured correctly, because I'm receiving e-mails, but I'm not able to send them.
[05:58] <nickenchuggets> so I just sent myself a test email from my gmail
[05:59] <nickenchuggets> and I received it through my own e-mail server
[05:59] <nickenchuggets> and I see it in my mail client
[05:59] <nickenchuggets> and I can see in the logs that the message was written to the maildir
[05:59] <nickenchuggets> I do see a warning that the aliases.db is older than the aliases file
[06:02] <nickenchuggets> so it looks like the problem is sending mail through my SMTP server
[06:03] <ethermonk> no its not okay. you will become a spammer in no time
[06:03] <nickenchuggets> ah, ok
[06:04] <nickenchuggets> would it be easier to use like, a public SMTP server?
[06:04] <nickenchuggets> I guess I'm not really sure how SMTP is supposed to work exactly
[06:05] <nickenchuggets> and it seems that when I have sasl enabled for SMTP, I can't receive any e-mails, which seems really strange
[06:05] <ethermonk> what mailserver are you using?
[06:06] <nickenchuggets> postfix
[06:06] <nickenchuggets> I thought SMTP was just for sending mails, not receiving mails
[06:06] <nickenchuggets> so I don't understand why I can't receive mail when sasl for SMTP is on
[06:07] <ethermonk> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html
[06:08] <nickenchuggets> another thing that seems kind of odd is that when I configure my mail client with SMTP, it doesn't really seem at all apparent that it's going to use TLS/SASL/etc
[06:09] <ethermonk> you have dovecot?
[06:09] <nickenchuggets> is that normal?
[06:09] <ethermonk> theres also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[06:09] <nickenchuggets> yeah, dovecot
[06:10] <nickenchuggets> so that last link, that should work with Ubuntu 13.04 right?
[06:12] <ethermonk> have you edited /etc/default/saslauthd ?
[06:12] <nickenchuggets> not at all
[06:12] <ethermonk> yeah, go through that second link
[06:12] <ethermonk> make sure you've done all that
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[06:13] <nickenchuggets> okay, I'm also using virtual mailboxes, does that make a difference in this case?
[06:19] <ethermonk> yeah
[06:20] <ethermonk> this should be up to date: http://vogasec.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/ubuntu-postfix-dovecot-shared-mailboxes/
[06:21] <ethermonk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto
[06:30] <nickenchuggets> would it be easier to use a different server other than postfix?
[06:31] <nickenchuggets> perhaps there's one that's simpler, or just fits my needs right out of the box?
[06:34] <nickenchuggets> I think I'm going to try just using courier
[06:37] <nickenchuggets> hmm, I'll try that postfix/courier set up
[06:39] <nickenchuggets> what I don't understand is what SMTP has to do with receiving mails
[06:40] <nickenchuggets> from what I understand, when I send an e-mail to an account on my mail server from say gmail, SMTP seems to pick it up, and try to authenticate in order to deliver it to its destination, which is actually on the same server as the SMTP server
[06:41] <nickenchuggets> I thought it would just receive all mails addressed to the account on my mail server
[06:41] <nickenchuggets> since I haven't really put any spam filtering in place
[06:42] <nickenchuggets> so, from observing the logs, it looks like the account that is receiving mail needs to authenticate to receive mails?
[06:42] <nickenchuggets> I mean, just to have it delivered to the virtual mailbox?
[06:44] <nickenchuggets> I thought IMAP was for downloading e-mails from the server, and SMTP was just for sending them out and that it would be in no way involved in receiving e-mails from other servers
[06:48] <patdk-lap> hmm, postfix is the most simple mta
[06:48] <patdk-lap> exim is also comparable
[06:49] <patdk-lap> courier is the most complex thing there is
[06:49] <patdk-lap> you thought that there is a thing as receiving and sending emails is wrong
[06:49] <patdk-lap> all emails are receiveced and sent
[06:52] <ethermonk> well all emails are sent. recieved is a different story.
[06:52] <patdk-lap> heh?
[06:53] <patdk-lap> how can it send an email, if it didn't first receive it?
[06:54] <ethermonk> im talking about whether or not it reached its destination.   server can't compensate for fat fingering the address. (off topic)
[06:54] <patdk-lap> yes, but the mta (postfix) has no concept of mail flow, all email is received and then sent
[06:55] <ethermonk> ^
[06:55] <patdk-lap> if you don't keep that in mind, you will screw up your config
[06:55] <soren> SMTP is the protocol used between two mail servers. POP3/IMAP is between a mail server and an end user.
[06:55] <patdk-lap> soren, almost
[06:55] <patdk-lap> submission is used between mail server and end user
[06:56] <nickenchuggets> all email is received and sent...
[06:56] <nickenchuggets> ?
[06:56] <nickenchuggets> O.o
[06:56] <ethermonk> the server recieves the email first (from you) then sends the email to the destination party
[06:57] <nickenchuggets> what about authentication though?
[06:57] <patdk-lap> you should be running auth on submission port
[06:57] <ethermonk> SMTP is fine
[06:57] <nickenchuggets> so even with authentication, it receives the email?
[06:57] <patdk-lap> yes
[06:58] <nickenchuggets> even if authentication fails?
[06:58] <patdk-lap> if the mail server job is to relay email, not to generate it
[06:58] <soren> patdk-lap: True.
[06:58] <patdk-lap> people or webservers normally generate email
[06:58] <ethermonk> yup. i only send. i do no receiving
[06:58] <ethermonk> well PHP is doing the sending
[06:59] <ethermonk> blah whatever, not related
[06:59] <nickenchuggets> so postfix is the simplest to configure?
[06:59] <ethermonk> i've only used postfix and sendmail and you do not wanna run sendmail
[06:59] <nickenchuggets> what's the simplest IMAP/SMTP setup?
[07:00] <patdk-lap> simplest? or easist and full featured
[07:00] <nickenchuggets> I guess a balance between the two would be great
[07:00] <nickenchuggets> I'm only going to have at most a few users probably
[07:00] <patdk-lap> normally dovecot + postfix makes the best, and keeps it simple
[07:00] <nickenchuggets> and I don't really want to give them unix logins
[07:01] <ethermonk> uh. i'd run RoundCube
[07:01] <nickenchuggets> er, shell logins
[07:01] <patdk-lap> what does roundcube have to do with anything here?
[07:01] <ethermonk> nothing
[07:01] <ethermonk> wrong room
[07:02] <ethermonk> room/window same difference
[07:02] <patdk-lap> still using aol? :)
[07:02] <patdk-lap> channel!
[07:02] <nickenchuggets> hmm, I'll consider something like webmail if I really can't get this configured
[07:02] <patdk-lap> that won't help
[07:03] <ethermonk> you'll still need the services, that wasnt intended for you
[07:03] <nickenchuggets> oh, ok
[07:03] <patdk-lap> webmail won't work, unless your mta and imap server works
[07:03] <nickenchuggets> ah
[07:03] <patdk-lap> email is very hard
[07:03] <patdk-lap> cause it's a stack, with many many layers
[07:03] <nickenchuggets> yeah, it's a lot harder than I thought it would be
[07:04] <nickenchuggets> do you guys have a preference of MTA?
[07:05] <patdk-lap> I use postfix everywhere I can
[07:05] <patdk-lap> and where I can't, I use sendmail
[07:05] <ethermonk> i use postfix if i absolutely have to have the mail server in house
[07:05] <nickenchuggets> hmm... I guess I should probably stop my postfix server for the moment
[07:06] <nickenchuggets> since SMTP is pretty much wide open
[08:13] <Repox> Hi. I'm trying to accomplish some server administration with lxc and I'm having some issues regarding port forwaring. I have a linux container containing a mysql database; to connect to this from an external resource I need to forward the incoming traffic to the right linux container. But I'm unsure as to how to forward the traffic correct. Could someone point me in the right direction?
[08:20] <KI7MT> Repox, This link has examples of forwarding different srvs to specific containers: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/getting-started-with-lxc-on-an-ubuntu-13-04-vps
[08:20] <Repox> KI7MT: Thank you - I will take a look.
[09:07] <lifeless> jamespage: oh hai :)
[09:07] <jamespage> morning lifeless
[09:08] <lifeless> jamespage: dunno if you saw the chat I had with zul in backlog; I was having a very weird behaviour with ovs 2.0.1 from trusty, with saucy kernel
[09:09] <lifeless> jamespage: I filed a bug; workaround is to not use the dkms package, but that package is needed for e.g. nxvlan :(
[09:09] <jamespage> lifeless, give me 5 - just dealing with something - then you will have my full attention
[09:09] <lifeless> jamespage: no worries
[09:09] <lifeless> jamespage: its not urgent (as I have a workaround), just wanted to touch base on it
[09:22] <jamespage> lifeless, OK _ so what are you seeing?
[09:25] <lifeless> jamespage: when I run two saucy machines with a gre tenant network, with trusty openvswitch pacakges, including the dkms datapath package
[09:26] <lifeless> jamespage: gre traffic is emitted correctly, but not handed into the br-tun bridge
[09:27] <lifeless> jamespage: I put a bunch of details in the bug
[09:27] <lifeless> jamespage: there's also this thread - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2014-January/003893.html
[09:28] <jamespage> reading now
[09:30] <jamespage> lifeless, hmm
[09:31] <jamespage> it looks like some sort of path MTU discovery issue
[09:31] <lifeless> jamespage: so there are two distinct issues
[09:31] <jamespage> lifeless, but I'm not 100% sure
[09:32] <lifeless> jamespage: one is the performance thing, which yes MTU is a big part, ties into GRO too
[09:32] <lifeless> jamespage: thats under control :)
[09:32] <jamespage> lifeless, the alternative to dropping the VM MTU is to bump the interface MTU's on the server
[09:33] <lifeless> mmm, fixing pmtud is the key thing; anyhow thats not an Ubuntu problem best I can tell - its upstream
[09:34] <lifeless> (and changing the mtu when you're netbooting things is super tricky... but thats a rathole)
[09:34] <jamespage> lifeless, I handle it via dhcp in our qa lab
[09:35] <lifeless> anyhow, the second issue was that when I upgraded to 2.0.1 w/dkms datapath, the tunnels were totally broken
[09:35] <jamespage> lifeless, OK _ I need to repro that - I'm actually working on the charms this week to get icehouse working again (need to catchup with trunk changes prior to b2)
[09:35] <jamespage> I'll focus on this today
[09:35] <lifeless> jamespage: the openflow flows were defined to handle gre packets, but the kernel datapath flow was missing
[09:36] <lifeless> running 2.0.1 with the kernel datapath module works - but you can only do GRE tunnels :(
[09:36] <jamespage> lifeless, on saucy yes
[09:36] <lifeless> yeah, saucy
[09:36] <jamespage> oh we so need 14.04 with its 3.13 kernel
[09:37] <jamespage> lifeless, lets catchup in +24 hrs and see where I got to
[09:37] <lifeless> specifically, saucy, added trusty sources at a lower priority and pinned *openvswitch* up higher
[11:21] <smb> roaksoax, Could you do a review/sponsor for drbd8 backport (bug 1185756)? Testing looks imo good.
[11:22] <smb> jamespage, The iscsitarget backport also might need some encouragement from some other side than me... (bug 1262712)
[11:22] <jamespage> smb, golly - sorry - I'd forgotten about that
[11:22] <jamespage> wheres the bot?
[11:23] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/iscsitarget/+bug/1262712
[11:23] <smb> Not that I am the bot
[11:48] <jamespage> rbasak, mysql-5.5 should actually be a merge candidate again now
[11:48] <jamespage> I pushed in .35 over the weekend
[11:48] <rbasak> jamespage: OK, thanks!
[11:50] <jamespage> rbasak, all the debian packaging has now been migrated to git
[11:50] <jamespage> rbasak, http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-mysql/mysql-5.5.git
[11:50] <jamespage> might make feeding back changes a little easier for you
[12:19] <Manishanker> Hi i need some information about the ubuntu -13.10 server deployment as Maas on baremetal physical standalone machines
[12:21] <Manishanker> ZNC ?
[12:22] <Manishanker> What is ZNC ?
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[12:33] <jamespage> lifeless, if you are still up/when you do get up - we carry patches for the 3.11+ support via cherry picks
[12:33] <jamespage> we did not have this one:
[12:33] <jamespage> http://git.openvswitch.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openvswitch;a=commitdiff;h=9a27329d2ce023e4399fdffe44cd49e0309dbfb5
[12:33] <jamespage> i suspect that is the issue - testing it now
[12:56] <frojnd> Hi there. So I have a rpi at home on which I run motion program. Program shows live stream on a 8080 port. How would I use my remote server for distributing live image since at home I only have 50KB/s upling? The idea is just to transfer image to remote server and then use server's ip for accessing stream?
[12:57] <frojnd> What would be the most elefant and easy way to achive. ALs oi a remote server I  run nginx
[12:57] <frojnd> Any ideas?
[13:05] <rbasak> frojnd: I do it with rsync (and watershed), since motion can be configured to run a script after capture. But you're a little offtopic here, since Ubuntu Server doesn't run on an RPi.
[13:14] <frojnd> rbasak: I know it does not run on rpi :)
[13:14] <frojnd> can you tell more about rync and watershed?
[13:14] <frojnd> also can you share a script?
[13:15] <rbasak> Sorry, my RPi isn't booted right now.
[13:15] <frojnd> Ok, can you discribe me how did you configure motion?
[13:15] <frojnd> maybe on private
[13:15] <frojnd> if this is offtopic
[13:16] <rbasak> Sorry, I just don't have the time. I don't mind giving you pointers of course; I've done that.
[13:17] <hXm> hi, im going to change my server, is there a way to export all users&databases from mysql and import them to the new server?
[13:17] <hXm> i know how to export all databases, but what about the users and their passwords
[13:44] <leblaaanc> hey guys i have a samba share with this definition http://pastie.org/private/ol43eqskqgzbntrlbfmd5w… the perms get set properly when mounting on windows but on linux it creates rwxrw-rw- instead… thoughts?
[13:45] <leblaaanc> -rw-r--r--  i mean
[13:54] <jamespage> lifeless, I'm confident about that fix so I've pushed it to saucy - it aligns with the symptoms you saw
[13:54] <jamespage> lifeless, trusty - not saucy
[13:54] <jamespage> sorry
[14:02] <jamespage> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntdb/+bug/1270831
[14:02] <jamespage> (as you did the merge :-))
[14:02] <zul> jamespage:  *sigh* just saw
[14:12] <salvorapi> hi
[14:14] <salvorapi> i have a question about OpenStack Havana release
[14:14] <salvorapi> there's some people that can answer me about this?
[14:21] <leblaaanc> what would a umask of 000 do?
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[14:23] <salvorapi> leblaaanc: no permission for all
[14:24] <leblaaanc> gdammit why is this not working
[14:27] <jamespage> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1270845
[14:27] <jamespage> that's effecting trunk testing right now
[14:27] <leblaaanc> if that "create mask (666)" is OR'd onto the "force create mode(666)" would they cancel eachother out http://pastie.org/private/qbss08a6n7bdk51rmg6zq ?
[14:27] <zul> jamespage:  ok cool ill have a look
[14:27] <jamespage> zul, it was ok at b1 - I downgraded to check
[14:28] <zul> jamespage:  ack
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[15:58] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/conccurency-testr/+merge/202327
[16:00] <jamespage> zul, that's going to make it worse I think
[16:02] <zul> jamespage:  slower?
[16:02] <jamespage> zul, yes - concurrency 4 was OK
[16:02] <zul> jamespage:  ill set it to 4 then
[16:02] <jamespage> otherwise you hit the sbuild timeout
[16:04] <zul> jamespage:  updated the branch
[16:04] <jamespage> zul, ok - look in a bit - otp
[16:04] <zul> ok
[17:22] <jamespage> zul, need to get libvirt into the lab archive - its blocking deployment testing atm
[17:23] <zul> jamespage:  ok ill do it right now
[17:23] <zul> jamespage:  how is it blocking?
[17:23] <jamespage> python-libvirt builds against it from the PPA
[17:23] <jamespage> so it ends up with an unfullilable depencency
[17:23] <zul> ah yes
[17:23] <zul> gimme a minute and ill upload a new one
[17:23] <jamespage>  python-libvirt : Depends: libvirt0 (>= 1.2.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0) but it is not going to be installed
[17:24] <jamespage> zul, you'll have to sbuild it locally on test-01 and install it by hand
[17:24] <jamespage> (it a manual merge right?)
[17:24] <zul> it is
[17:27] <jamespage> zul, I'd pull the source from the staging ppa onto test-01, build and install
[17:27] <jamespage> zul, infact lemme do that - it will unblock me
[17:28] <zul> jamespage: ok hold on a sec
[17:28] <zul> jamespage:  you will need the following for precise http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6787026/
[17:29] <zul> ill get it updated on the CA
[17:29] <jamespage> zul, or https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/icehouse-staging/+files/libvirt_1.2.0-0ubuntu1%7Ecloud0.dsc
[17:29] <jamespage> thats good enough for the moment
[17:30] <zul> jamespage:  heh ok...im just updating for the cloud archive right now
[17:30] <jamespage> ack
[17:30] <jamespage> zul, just ppa:openstack-ubuntu-testing/icehouse and ppa:ubuntu-cloud-archive/icehouse-staging
[17:31] <zul> jamespage:  ok
[17:33] <zul> jamespage:  just doing a local build before i upload it first
[17:33] <jamespage> ack
[17:33] <jamespage> zul, I must get a build-from-branch job written - that way you could just push the branch and it would build and publish everywhere
[17:34] <zul> jamespage:  that would be nice
[17:34] <jamespage> zul, do you have a branch for libvirt? I've been stuffing my forks under ~ubuntu-cloud-archive on LP
[17:35] <zul> jamespage:  no the bzr branch for the packaging is broken i havent found time to fix it yet
[17:35] <jamespage> zul, damn
[17:35] <jamespage> that sucks
[17:35] <zul> jamespage:  btw keystone is using oauthlib now so we dont have have to carry that massive oauth2 patch
[17:36] <jamespage> zul, good
[17:36] <jamespage> zul, we need todo somehting with python-django-auth don't we
[17:36] <zul> jamespage:  yeah ill put it on the list
[17:36] <jamespage> zul, its on barry's tracking bug already
[17:37] <zul> jamespage:  ok ill just freaking do it ;)
[17:37] <jamespage> \o/
[17:37]  * jamespage hugs zul
[18:43] <lifeless> jamespage: awesome
[18:43] <lifeless> jamespage: did the tunnel thing happen on trusty as well ? or was it purely a backport issue?
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[20:28] <soahccc> Can someone confirm that the commands mentioned in this post work with ubuntu? Or do they need "translation" as well?
[20:28] <soahccc> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68375#p388177
[21:00] <jamespage> lifeless, only needed for trusty
[21:00] <jamespage> hmm
[21:00] <jamespage> now you have me thinking
[21:03] <jamespage> oh - no its OK with 1.10.2 on saucy - that was pre-restructure
[21:49] <brightbeat> are /tmp dir is mounted no exec by default?
[22:01] <Sweeney> Hello everyone, new here.
[22:02] <Sweeney> I'm playing around with a server that has an intel embedded raid motherboard and I would like to install Ubuntu. I don't have any experience with servers, where is the best place for me to read up on the topic?
[22:34] <lifeless> jamespage: so running 2.0.1 on saucy.. is where I hit this with the dkms module
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