| nuvolari | o/ | 05:19 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | inetpro: ping | 05:19 |
| nuvolari | inetpro: got some weird link on twitter | 05:19 |
| nuvolari | is your account safe? | 05:19 |
| nuvolari | http://slexy.org/view/s2gRT2j4es | 05:21 |
| Squirm | morning | 05:59 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: so did I, he knows it's spamming | 05:59 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:16 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: yep, sorry for that | 06:16 |
| inetpro | my account clearly got compromised | 06:17 |
| inetpro | still not sure whether it was through a weak password or one of the app connections | 06:18 |
| inetpro | I somehow still can't send DM messages to anyone at this stage | 06:19 |
| inetpro | guess twitter picked up that I was spamming everyone | 06:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 06:26 |
| inetpro | good morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:28 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:52 |
| mazal | I have 12.04 64bit , all updates , and it doesn't want to take vlc as my default video player. I did make vlc the default in system settings for videos. But still when I open a video it opens with media player instead. Any ideas why ? | 06:53 |
| bduk1 | More almal | 07:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | anyone here dabble in photography at all? particularly with post-processing RAW files | 07:14 |
| charl | good morning all | 08:21 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 08:22 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 08:22 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 08:26 |
| Kilos | morning ThatGraemeGuy and all others | 09:19 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 09:21 |
| liamT | good moaning | 09:21 |
| Kilos | oh hi liamT Golynx | 09:23 |
| Kilos | Golynx, something to writwe down and do when data comes | 09:23 |
| Kilos | install ubuntu-restricted-extrs and addons | 09:24 |
| Kilos | extras | 09:24 |
| Kilos | they both in synaptic | 09:24 |
| Golynx | Hey liamT | 09:25 |
| Kilos | makes more stuff work, ask the clever peeps what | 09:25 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:25 |
| Golynx | Hmm are you sure thats needed Kilos | 09:25 |
| psyatw | hi Golynx | 09:25 |
| Golynx | Hi psyatw | 09:25 |
| Kilos | man i dunno what all you do but i needed them for something | 09:26 |
| Kilos | makes stuff work | 09:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | probably for playing commercial DVDs | 09:26 |
| Kilos | ah ty ThatGraemeGuy | 09:27 |
| Golynx | I never watch dvd on pc | 09:27 |
| Kilos | storm killed power 10 mins after i went off last night and was only fixed after 10 this morning | 09:27 |
| Golynx | Hi ThatGraemeGuy | 09:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'ello | 09:28 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, any ideas how to force 12.04 to see a creen thats 17" but gets seen as 640x480 | 09:31 |
| Kilos | i cant google till month end | 09:31 |
| Kilos | sorry | 09:31 |
| Kilos | stupig samsung syncmaster | 09:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | not sure, i've never ever had that happen | 09:31 |
| Kilos | stupid as well | 09:32 |
| Kilos | on my other make same size screen this drive works fine but im using ti to work on drives | 09:32 |
| Kilos | some samsung bug | 09:33 |
| Kilos | grrr | 09:33 |
| mazal | Yay got the default application thing working :) | 09:41 |
| Golynx | hmm , no webcam :/ | 10:05 |
| Golynx | Kilos dont you have a windows 7 disk | 11:18 |
| Golynx | I dont think this was the right time for me to try ubuntu. I wana use it when i have a more supported pc. | 11:22 |
| Kilos | yes i do but cant post it for some months | 11:31 |
| Kilos | need data and meds if been putting off to safe for pc stuff | 11:31 |
| Kilos | all you need is just lotsa internet | 11:32 |
| Kilos | s/safe/save | 11:33 |
| Golynx | How much do you want for the windows 7 disk | 11:33 |
| Kilos | i use it man, its not a for sale one but can make a copy | 11:34 |
| Kilos | but i can buy them for 879 i think | 11:34 |
| Golynx | hmm, so the copy wont work | 11:35 |
| Kilos | win7 basic for 879 | 11:35 |
| Kilos | why wont it work? | 11:36 |
| Kilos | win7 pro for R1499 | 11:36 |
| Golynx | The serial numbers and stuff windows restrict for not making copies of their os's | 11:36 |
| Kilos | mine is also a copy | 11:38 |
| Kilos | but dont go online with it | 11:39 |
| Golynx | My biggest issue in ubuntu is, the upgrades are too large , its more than a gig, and java dont run by saving cpu use here, so i cant use android emulator and blackberry emulator. Aswell as the apache server permissions stuff on ubuntu gives me too much headaces | 11:39 |
| Golynx | This laptop is not that well supported by ubuntu | 11:41 |
| Kilos | there i gave you the price of new legal copies of win7 | 11:42 |
| Golynx | On windows 7 everything works fine. The most intensive programs run at below 40% there with this laptop compared to over 100% on ubuntu. | 11:43 |
| Golynx | ai | 11:43 |
| Kilos | i dont have a legal one | 11:44 |
| Golynx | Everything is fucke up now! My future flushed like crap | 11:44 |
| Golynx | Thanks for nothing Kilos | 11:48 |
| Kilos | yw | 11:49 |
| Golynx | I bet your laughing now | 11:49 |
| Kilos | about? | 11:49 |
| Golynx | How you convinced me to fuck up this pc | 11:50 |
| Kilos | if you had of listened and done the correct upgrading everything would wor | 11:50 |
| Kilos | work | 11:50 |
| Kilos | if you knew as much as you think you do you would have unlocked the locked win7 stuff and installed alongside | 11:51 |
| Kilos | but if blaming me makes you feel good then carry on | 11:52 |
| Golynx | You keep pushing on upgrade nonsene wont fix anything. I installed the drivers and this thing wont even run the basic 3D programs | 11:52 |
| Kilos | last time i waste time and money sending anyone anything | 11:52 |
| Kilos | you must listen fool | 11:52 |
| Golynx | You only told me you found the unlock option after i already installed ubuntu | 11:53 |
| Kilos | ubuntu needs those security upgrades after a clean install | 11:53 |
| Golynx | I'm not blaming you | 11:53 |
| Kilos | thats correct my son told me about them we he came to visit | 11:53 |
| Golynx | I dunno what security upgrades have to do with system performance | 11:55 |
| Golynx | Ubuntu's supposed to be secure | 11:55 |
| Kilos | its not security as windows peeps see it , it is necessary stuff in ubuntu | 11:55 |
| Golynx | Why is it neccassary | 11:56 |
| Kilos | its to complete the packages that of which there were basic installs | 11:56 |
| Golynx | I dont understand | 11:57 |
| Kilos | yes | 11:57 |
| Kilos | and you dont want to try understand | 11:58 |
| Kilos | little things like acpi get upgraded with clean installs | 11:58 |
| Kilos | and everything else | 11:58 |
| Vince-0 | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/why-you-should-always-keep-ubuntu-updated-linux/ | 11:59 |
| Vince-0 | rtfm | 11:59 |
| Kilos | if ubuntu installed a complete system the dvd would be large | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ty vince | 11:59 |
| Golynx | That link still dont satidfy me Vince-0 | 12:03 |
| Golynx | Kilos what version was your dvd 12.04.2 ? | 12:03 |
| Kilos | most likely yes | 12:04 |
| Golynx | 12.04.3 ? | 12:04 |
| Kilos | .3 i think | 12:05 |
| Golynx | Those are just patches made to the base version, why would a newer patch improve anything | 12:05 |
| Vince-0 | updates are for security, bug fixes, patches etc | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | performance can be affected by this | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | you're having graphics display performance issues? | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | welcome to Linux, get Googling on Ubuntu sites for graphics driver fixes | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | DONT come in here and get rowdy, we're here for free so you're lucky to even get a comment | 12:07 |
| Golynx | Yes Vince-0 , plus java working overtime | 12:07 |
| Vince-0 | now get lost, go do some reading for a week before accusing Kilos of anything | 12:07 |
| Kilos | he hasnt done a first update/upgrade since installing | 12:07 |
| Vince-0 | java? did you google that? Java is a piece of crap | 12:07 |
| Vince-0 | let me guess, you're running a Celeron CPU? | 12:07 |
| Vince-0 | but PULEEZ, go read some Google | 12:08 |
| Golynx | I need java for android emulator and blackberry its not crap | 12:08 |
| Vince-0 | you will get nowhere otherwise | 12:08 |
| Golynx | no its a dual core AMD cpu , that ubuntu hates, Intel supposed to be the most prefered cpu for ubutnu dunno why | 12:09 |
| Vince-0 | there's two Java's for Ubuntu - SUN and IcedTea | 12:09 |
| Vince-0 | repo comes with IcedTea. Try Sun 1.6 JRE package? | 12:09 |
| Vince-0 | there's always a way but you have to help yourself first otherwise I'm going to say GTFO | 12:10 |
| Golynx | OpenJDK suposed to work best for linux | 12:11 |
| Vince-0 | meh | 12:11 |
| Vince-0 | I doubt it but you need to try a few things first | 12:11 |
| Vince-0 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk | 12:11 |
| Vince-0 | those emulation apps will have preffered JREs | 12:11 |
| Vince-0 | I always use Oracle's | 12:11 |
| Golynx | OK, fine i appologise | 12:12 |
| Golynx | Sorry Kilos for overreacting | 12:12 |
| Kilos | np | 12:12 |
| Golynx | I will be back next month, take care | 12:13 |
| Kilos | but seriously when you do the proper upgrade everything will work better and properly | 12:13 |
| Kilos | you too | 12:13 |
| Vince-0 | Java is a magical creature, so hack away | 12:13 |
| Vince-0 | the worst kind of noobs | 12:13 |
| Kilos | tough ya | 12:13 |
| mazal | Wat gaat hier aan ? | 12:13 |
| Kilos | ty for the help | 12:14 |
| Vince-0 | kk | 12:14 |
| Vince-0 | mazal, noob raas omdat hy n noob is | 12:14 |
| Vince-0 | I'll be the first to be accommodating to noobs but jeez that guy needs to catch a wake up | 12:15 |
| Vince-0 | *lols - back to work! | 12:15 |
| Kilos | peeps dont realize how important the first update/upgrade is | 12:16 |
| Kilos | thats why its over 200m | 12:16 |
| mazal | I checked that part about complaining about updates, that is just a part of all os's now. A fresh Win 7 install has over 1gig updates currently | 12:17 |
| Kilos | yes but with 7 it works without the update | 12:18 |
| Kilos | ubuntu needs the first one to work properly | 12:18 |
| Kilos | its like lots of packages only have a basic install | 12:18 |
| inetpro | eish! | 12:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm still not convinced he would be happy even after an update | 12:19 |
| inetpro | saying that the update will fix everything might be the wrong thing to say | 12:19 |
| Kilos | i felt soory for him losing his work and all | 12:19 |
| Kilos | but maybe thats why | 12:20 |
| Vince-0 | lol no backups? | 12:20 |
| Kilos | im mean his job | 12:20 |
| nuvolari | oom Kilos, I might be running late tonight. Have a competition reward ceremony at 18:00 (photo club) | 12:20 |
| Kilos | whats happening tonight nuvolari ? | 12:21 |
| Kilos | meeting next tuesday my man | 12:21 |
| liamT | #Kilos - what media card you using ? | 12:22 |
| Vince-0 | nuvolari ! long time no see | 12:22 |
| Kilos | me? nvidia something or other | 12:23 |
| Kilos | fx5500 i think | 12:23 |
| liamT | surely through the nvidia settings you can change the screen settings | 12:23 |
| Kilos | and i have nvidia-173 installed | 12:23 |
| liamT | i've also got a samsung extra screen, it works fine once I use that | 12:23 |
| liamT | and I'm using nvidia 8400M gs | 12:24 |
| Kilos | aha lemme see if i can do that | 12:24 |
| Kilos | can you open them settings from cli? | 12:24 |
| liamT | as in shell or gui ? | 12:25 |
| Kilos | everything else hangs off the end of the screen so no apply buttons | 12:25 |
| Kilos | shell | 12:25 |
| Kilos | command line interface | 12:25 |
| liamT | i have nvidia-current, nvidia-settings-304 installed | 12:25 |
| Kilos | here too i think | 12:25 |
| liamT | you don't run X ? | 12:26 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 12:26 |
| liamT | you use xfce or unity or kde ? | 12:26 |
| Kilos | works fine with genisat screen | 12:26 |
| Kilos | unity | 12:26 |
| Kilos | on here now that is | 12:26 |
| liamT | you should be able to find it in there, the nvidia settings program | 12:27 |
| liamT | bbl | 12:27 |
| Kilos | ty | 12:27 |
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| smile | hi :) | 12:27 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 12:27 |
| Kilos | The NVIDIA X driver on P4:0.0 is not new | 12:32 |
| Kilos | enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page. | 12:32 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 12:32 |
| Kilos | not serious ill get back to the good screen tomorrow | 12:35 |
| smile | NVIDIA drivers suck ;) | 12:36 |
| Kilos | lemme reboot and see if the 304 drivers make a diffs | 12:49 |
| Kilos | wbb | 12:49 |
| Kilos | oooyay | 12:52 |
| Kilos | now i can work on the 2TB in peace and not sukkel on this pc | 12:53 |
| Kilos | danke liamT | 12:54 |
| liamT | it work ? | 12:55 |
| Maaz | liamT: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell liamT Thanks alot installing the 304 settings sorted the prob" 59 seconds ago | 12:55 |
| liamT | no prob | 12:55 |
| Kilos | i didnt have to do anything more except reboot | 12:56 |
| Kilos | yay | 12:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you will all be happy. ive made maverick into 12.04 and no 10.10 cd to go back | 12:58 |
| Kilos | im now on 12.04 here with 10.10 home intack | 12:59 |
| liamT | it has a convenient screen for dragging screens any which way | 13:00 |
| Kilos | lol dont give me more to play with and mess up liamT | 13:00 |
| Kilos | weird though, the additional drivers option chose nvidia-173 | 13:01 |
| Kilos | so i used gdebi to install 304 from my archives | 13:02 |
| liamT | i think I installed current, and 304 comes with that, i'm on 13.10 | 13:07 |
| liamT | thought whatever works | 13:07 |
| Kilos | yeah thanks again | 13:07 |
| liamT | I also install dkms, just in case things need to be recompiled for the kernel, i remember having a problem with that a few years back | 13:08 |
| Kilos | i inastalled 304 and 304 settings and the install did the dkms stuff automatically | 13:09 |
| Kilos | sjoe inetpro storm is hier. hopelik varby as jy huis toe gaan | 13:29 |
| Kilos | i go pump water quick | 13:29 |
| inetpro | ai! | 13:30 |
| Kilos | dit sous | 13:47 |
| Kilos | Vince-0, i think hell be back. he knows buntu is better but just doesnt want to admit that he messed up with unticking security updates | 14:12 |
| Kilos | if he was so hard up for data he wouldnt be trying to make a webcam work | 14:12 |
| Squirm | hey all | 14:13 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm hows things? | 14:15 |
| somaunn | Hello everyone | 14:17 |
| Kilos | hi somaunn | 14:17 |
| somaunn | Kilos, how are things doing here | 14:17 |
| somaunn | ? | 14:17 |
| Kilos | good ty and there? | 14:18 |
| somaunn | good too | 14:28 |
| Kilos | great. can i ask where you are? | 14:28 |
| somaunn | i having an hard time with some updates on my lin box | 14:29 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i'm in Congo (central africa) | 14:29 |
| Kilos | aha | 14:29 |
| Kilos | what probs | 14:29 |
| Kilos | how are you updating? | 14:29 |
| somaunn | just doing normal updates | 14:30 |
| charl | phew need to take a break | 14:30 |
| charl | developing a cool application in spring | 14:30 |
| somaunn | but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted | 14:30 |
| somaunn | tcpdump | 14:31 |
| somaunn | they don't get updated like it supposed to be | 14:31 |
| Kilos | somaun do you have aptitude installed | 14:31 |
| somaunn | Kilos: using fedora with yum | 14:31 |
| Kilos | aptitude gives work arounds normally | 14:31 |
| Kilos | oi | 14:32 |
| Kilos | look for a yummitude | 14:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:32 |
| Kilos | Squirm, can you help somaunn ? | 14:32 |
| Kilos | is fedora and red hat the same thing? | 14:33 |
| Kilos | Squirm, is the redhat man here | 14:33 |
| somaunn | hey that mean Squirm is my man | 14:33 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:33 |
| Kilos | as a matter of interest what error message do you get? | 14:36 |
| Kilos | if its lots paste to slexy.org | 14:36 |
| Squirm | Kilos: they're not | 14:43 |
| Squirm | they're very different | 14:43 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:43 |
| Squirm | although they're by the same company | 14:43 |
| Kilos | now where we find someone to help him? | 14:43 |
| Squirm | Fedora is a community version, funded by Red Hat | 14:43 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:43 |
| Kilos | somaunn, havent they got an irc channel | 14:44 |
| Squirm | if they like ideas that are in Fedora, they will bug test the hell out of it and release it in RH | 14:44 |
| Squirm | what's the problem? | 14:44 |
| Kilos | see what somaunn say above | 14:44 |
| Kilos | update errors | 14:44 |
| Kilos | but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted | 14:45 |
| Kilos | but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted | 14:45 |
| Kilos | sorry | 14:45 |
| Squirm | I see | 14:45 |
| somaunn | Squirm, Kilos: look here for what it shows me | 14:46 |
| somaunn | Kilos: yes they've got an irc channel but have to register etc. | 14:47 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:47 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i went to the french irc channel but the help is not that good there | 14:47 |
| Kilos | paste the error message | 14:47 |
| somaunn | tried to connect to the #rhel but no succes | 14:47 |
| Kilos | Squirm, is normally clued up | 14:48 |
| somaunn | Kilos, Squirm: sorry i forgot to paste, look here http://pastebin.com/9iAwa3Bg | 14:48 |
| Kilos | in future use slexy.org. my pc struggles with pastebin | 14:48 |
| Squirm | (28, 'Operation too slow. Less than 1000 bytes/sec transferred the last 30 seconds') | 14:48 |
| Squirm | so your download rate was less than 1kb/s for 30s | 14:49 |
| Squirm | it fails on that | 14:49 |
| Squirm | have you tried another update? | 14:49 |
| Squirm | yum update | 14:50 |
| Squirm | it should just download the packages which never downloaded | 14:50 |
| somaunn | Squirm: yes, it's now since a couple of days | 14:50 |
| Squirm | have you tried a different mirror? | 14:50 |
| somaunn | this morning i've do,e some updates 47meg but only these packages failed (once again) | 14:50 |
| somaunn | Squirm: not | 14:51 |
| Squirm | so everything except those packages update? | 14:51 |
| somaunn | i guess i wil have to add another mirror | 14:51 |
| somaunn | Squirm: already using the fastestmirror pluggin | 14:52 |
| Squirm | from what I see, your download speed is to blame, with those 3 packages | 14:52 |
| Squirm | then, try a local install | 14:52 |
| Squirm | what fedora version do you have? | 14:52 |
| Squirm | 20 | 14:53 |
| Squirm | I see | 14:53 |
| Squirm | somaunn: go here | 14:53 |
| Squirm | http://mirror.west.ig2ad.com/Fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm | 14:53 |
| Squirm | download that package to your PC, using your browser | 14:53 |
| somaunn | Squirm: yes using fedora 20 x64 | 14:54 |
| Squirm | or in terminal: wget http://mirror.west.ig2ad.com/Fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm | 14:54 |
| somaunn | Squirm: i also thought it was the speed but i tried late in the night when i'm "alone in the dark" with full BD but still the same | 14:55 |
| Squirm | then type, yum localinstall /path/to/downloaded/rpm/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm | 14:55 |
| Squirm | somaunn: try that | 14:55 |
| somaunn | Squirm: done with selinux-policy | 14:56 |
| Squirm | now try a yum update | 14:57 |
| somaunn | Squirm: processing | 14:57 |
| Squirm | if it doesn't do the last 2, you're going to have to do the same with the next two | 14:57 |
| somaunn | Squirm: you are a boss, went like a charm | 14:58 |
| Squirm | strange that it was only that one package though | 14:58 |
| somaunn | so i believe the problem was with selinux-policy | 14:58 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 14:58 | |
| Squirm | but if it's from the same repo, surely the transfer speeds should be exactly the same | 14:59 |
| Squirm | I don't like selinux :/ | 14:59 |
| Squirm | it's a bitch when you need to sys admin | 14:59 |
| Squirm | excuse my language :/ | 14:59 |
| Kilos | Squirm, well done. ty | 15:00 |
| somaunn | Squirm: no problem, i sometime use hard words too | 15:04 |
| somaunn | Squirm: if you don't like selinux, what you prefer then | 15:04 |
| Squirm | I guess selinux is put there for a purpose, I recognise that purpose | 15:08 |
| Squirm | it's just hard to get used to | 15:08 |
| Squirm | it's basically file security on steroids | 15:08 |
| Squirm | locks programs/users to use certain ports/files | 15:09 |
| somaunn | Squirm: good, i'm currently learning to pass my RHCSA certificate and in few months i expect to pass the RHCE certificate too | 15:09 |
| somaunn | Squirm: as the redhat guys arround what can you advice me to do ? | 15:10 |
| Squirm | meh | 15:12 |
| Squirm | I failed my RHCE | 15:12 |
| Squirm | today I booked to do my RHCE on the 4th of April | 15:12 |
| Squirm | can't really say anything in terms of the exam | 15:12 |
| Squirm | you must just follow the course outline you find on the RH site | 15:13 |
| somaunn | but you get the RHCSA already or not ? | 15:13 |
| Squirm | s/course/exam | 15:13 |
| Squirm | I do | 15:13 |
| somaunn | that cool | 15:13 |
| Squirm | so now to start learning again... | 15:14 |
| somaunn | i found few similarities points between RHCSA/RCHE and Security+ from Comptia | 15:14 |
| somaunn | thats why i want to go Redhat on both RHCSA/RHCE and the end pass my Security+ exam i will be more confident if i go that way | 15:15 |
| somaunn | by the way THANK YOU SO MUCH Squirm | 15:15 |
| Squirm | yeah | 15:17 |
| Squirm | I want to pass my RHCE, then maybe do LPI | 15:17 |
| Squirm | download and use CentOS | 15:17 |
| Squirm | CentOS = Red Hat | 15:17 |
| somaunn | Squirm: to be honest i worked with CentOS for few days but was not that impressed, a lot of missing things in there | 15:27 |
| somaunn | then i just moved to RHEL 6.1 Beta and got al my stuff working out of the box | 15:27 |
| somaunn | now i'm just waiting for RHEL 7 Beta that i've asked to a friend of mine then i will make it as my default OS and work from there | 15:28 |
| somaunn | don't like gnome 2 model at all | 15:28 |
| somaunn | gnome 3.10 rocks | 15:28 |
| somaunn | what are the topics you recommand to focus on as an RHCSA | 15:29 |
| somaunn | ? | 15:29 |
| somaunn | i'm back | 15:44 |
| somaunn | network issue | 15:45 |
| Kilos | wb | 15:48 |
| somaunn | Kilos: cool | 15:48 |
| somaunn | i'm back | 16:45 |
| somaunn | OS issues | 16:45 |
| somaunn | installed VMware and gave 2048MB of RAM out of the 4GB i have | 16:46 |
| somaunn | my laptop just froze i don't know why | 16:46 |
| somaunn | still need to investigate | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hi pogodina | 16:56 |
| Kilos | somaunn, is vmware like running virtual box? | 16:58 |
| Kilos | maybe your ram is too little | 16:59 |
| Squirm | somaunn: I can't tell you what to focus on | 17:05 |
| Squirm | and like I said, CentOS is a package for package clone of RH | 17:06 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 17:06 |
| smile | hi Kilos :) | 17:06 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i'm not getting you well | 17:11 |
| somaunn | Squirm: it is an obligation to use resize2fs after using of lvextend command | 17:24 |
| Kilos | oh sorry, is vmware like making a virtual drive on your system? | 17:25 |
| somaunn | Kilos: Yeah | 17:31 |
| somaunn | it's works even better than Vbox from what i've seen up to now | 17:32 |
| Kilos | when i wanted to do that here i was told 2 gig ram is not enough | 17:32 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i just reduced the size of the needed memory to 1024MB and the Vmachine is working like a charm | 17:33 |
| Kilos | cool | 17:33 |
| somaunn | Kilos: which os did you tried to install | 17:33 |
| somaunn | Kilos: on my VMware i'm running redhat 6.1 beta in full screen no problem | 17:33 |
| Kilos | i think win 7 into ubuntu virtualbox | 17:33 |
| Kilos | it worked but was very slow | 17:34 |
| nuvolari | :O I'm late | 17:45 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 17:45 |
| nuvolari | lo somaunn | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 17:45 |
| Kilos | Next Meeting: Tue, 28 January 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1bmNi0u | 17:45 |
| nuvolari | ! | 17:45 |
| charl | good evening | 17:46 |
| nuvolari | why do my notifications start a week early :-/ | 17:46 |
| nuvolari | I worried for nothing | 17:46 |
| nuvolari | hello charl | 17:46 |
| Kilos | i told you today when you said you would be late | 17:46 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 17:46 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, note its tuesday hey! | 17:49 |
| charl | hi nuvolari | 17:51 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 17:51 |
| charl | i just got this sinking feeling when i saw this | 17:51 |
| charl | http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings | 17:51 |
| charl | as if, the internet has just been flushed down the drain | 17:51 |
| Kilos | evening superfly | 17:51 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 18:00 |
| henkj_ | hi kilos and superfly | 18:06 |
| superfly | hiya henkj_ | 18:07 |
| henkj_ | superfly: I should have followed up about nomanini ages ago, but it slipped my mind | 18:07 |
| henkj_ | how's it going? | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hi henkj_ | 18:08 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 18:08 |
| henkj_ | good thanks | 18:08 |
| henkj_ | so it's almost time for a new LTS | 18:09 |
| henkj_ | I'm quite comfortable on 12.04 | 18:09 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:09 |
| Kilos | me too | 18:09 |
| Kilos | very stable now | 18:09 |
| henkj_ | yeah, no issues with it really | 18:09 |
| henkj_ | would be nice to get more recent kernels | 18:10 |
| henkj_ | but I can't be bothered to compile my own | 18:10 |
| Kilos | was a new kernel update 2 weeks ago | 18:11 |
| * henkj_ checks | 18:12 | |
| Kilos | maybe 3 weeks | 18:17 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:17 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:18 |
| inetpro | hello oom | 18:18 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:18 |
| Kilos | i need to find a linux os thats not so sensitive to dicey drives | 18:19 |
| Kilos | not today though | 18:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: just stop using dicey drives | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:24 |
| Kilos | i like fixing them man | 18:24 |
| Kilos | but dont enjoy using win to do it | 18:24 |
| inetpro | sometimes it's not worth it | 18:24 |
| Kilos | sometimes ya | 18:24 |
| inetpro | what's the problem? | 18:25 |
| inetpro | try making multiple smaller partitions | 18:26 |
| Kilos | i have the 2tb with xp install on it but even running livecds take forever then wanna send crash reports | 18:26 |
| Kilos | the first bit is ok then there is 200g bad stuff | 18:27 |
| inetpro | like a partition for /boot, /usr, /home, /var, /usr/local | 18:27 |
| Kilos | the live cd dont even boot like a live cd man | 18:27 |
| Kilos | take forever | 18:27 |
| Kilos | this is a weird bug on this drive | 18:28 |
| Kilos | i made a 7g part for xp | 18:28 |
| inetpro | if you can put /boot, /etc and /usr on stable partitions the system should be rock solid | 18:28 |
| Kilos | and 200m not used | 18:28 |
| Kilos | the xp installs and calls that 70g d: | 18:28 |
| Kilos | and makes the bad 200g c: | 18:29 |
| Kilos | weird | 18:29 |
| inetpro | good morning magespawn | 18:29 |
| magespawn | Good day | 18:29 |
| Kilos | livecd should boot fast but something in the drive upsets it | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ho magespawn | 18:30 |
| Kilos | hi also | 18:30 |
| Kilos | some one needs to invent a way to make mbr and boot sectors at the end of a drive | 18:31 |
| Kilos | maybe even just the boot sector | 18:33 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos | 18:33 |
| magespawn | i still have the old meeting times on my calender | 18:34 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:34 |
| Kilos | Next Meeting: Tue, 28 January 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1bmNi0u | 18:35 |
| magespawn | I also have the new ones so no worries | 18:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:35 |
| Kilos | i think this is gonna be an interesting one | 18:36 |
| Kilos | im sure the fly has some plan | 18:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: so why not use another small drive just for the boot sector? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:37 |
| Kilos | space? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | power | 18:37 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:38 |
| Kilos | i forget that linuc can do that. like first suse i saw | 18:38 |
| Kilos | booted from floppy | 18:38 |
| Kilos | i already have 4 drives in the pc | 18:39 |
| inetpro | all 4 unstable? | 18:39 |
| Kilos | no man | 18:39 |
| Kilos | unity kde 12.04 | 18:39 |
| Kilos | and another unity | 18:39 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:40 |
| Kilos | and the 2tb | 18:40 |
| inetpro | so what is the problem? Anyone of those can hold the mbr | 18:40 |
| Kilos | ya but when the 2tb is connected even those drives boot very slow and dont show the 2tb in home or gparted | 18:41 |
| inetpro | you only have one of them physically connected at any one time? | 18:41 |
| Kilos | only the diskutility sees it | 18:41 |
| Kilos | i was even wondering if it aint that uefi stuff | 18:42 |
| inetpro | sounds like you're doing something wrong | 18:42 |
| Kilos | or a mix uefi and mab | 18:42 |
| Kilos | mbr | 18:42 |
| Kilos | while working on it from dvd then i have the others disconnected | 18:44 |
| Kilos | dont want them maybe corrupted as well | 18:44 |
| Kilos | but dont forget for 6 months or so it was totally dead hey, now it has xp on at least | 18:45 |
| Kilos | its like building a kit car bit by bit | 18:46 |
| inetpro | but you never know when it's gonna fail | 18:47 |
| Kilos | as long as the mbr and boot sector hold out i will install ubuntu far from any bad stuff | 18:48 |
| inetpro | anyway, I'm off | 18:48 |
| Kilos | and run badblocks and stuff | 18:48 |
| inetpro | good night | 18:48 |
| Kilos | n ight old man | 18:48 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:48 |
| magespawn | cheers inetpro | 18:49 |
| Kilos | no man the pro is going | 18:49 |
| Kilos | oh sorry | 18:49 |
| magespawn | Lol | 18:49 |
| Kilos | i missread that | 18:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:49 |
| somaunn | hi nuvolari | 19:01 |
| somaunn | hi charl | 19:02 |
| somaunn | Kilos: wich live cd did u use for that operation ? | 19:11 |
| Kilos | ive tried all the ubuntus from 9.10 to 13.10 | 19:12 |
| Kilos | next will be xfce | 19:13 |
| somaunn | ok | 19:15 |
| smile | Kilos: Xfce is great :D | 19:15 |
| smile | But please don't use Xubuntu :p | 19:15 |
| smile | it implementation sucks :p | 19:15 |
| somaunn | Kilos: give a try to gparted and see what will be the result | 19:16 |
| smile | instead, use Linux Mint Xfce :p | 19:16 |
| Kilos | trying xubuntu now there | 19:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:16 |
| somaunn | i've got similar issues when i tried to fix/recover certain hdd | 19:16 |
| Kilos | somaunn, do you use the recovery tools | 19:16 |
| somaunn | my ubuntu was just useless or get slow or even get stuck somewhere in the beginning | 19:16 |
| Kilos | testdisk scalpel and foremost | 19:17 |
| Kilos | 12.04 runs well even on my single core p4 | 19:17 |
| somaunn | yes i do, i sometime use recovery tools but only for peoples who struggle with win | 19:17 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:17 |
| somaunn | yes i know a bit about testdisk, not scalpel, not foremost | 19:18 |
| somaunn | Kilos: yes i know it runs well but you when it to certain operations on hdd i found my ubuntu/fedora wasn't help so much | 19:18 |
| Kilos | you run testdisk then foremost and foremost fills in what testdisk missed | 19:18 |
| somaunn | so what i did is; i gave a chance to other distro oriented to hdd only then it works quite well | 19:19 |
| smile | bye :) | 19:19 |
| Kilos | bye smile | 19:20 |
| smile | good night | 19:20 |
| smile | :) | 19:20 |
| somaunn | i have 3 distro i'm using for that kind of jog: TRK3 (trinity rescue kit); Gparted, HirenBootCD | 19:20 |
| somaunn | they are just good enough | 19:20 |
| Kilos | i use gparted and have a rescue cd but havent tried it | 19:21 |
| Kilos | other one i dont know | 19:21 |
| Kilos | i see now what xp has done here | 19:23 |
| somaunn | just give it a try | 19:23 |
| Kilos | its used sda2 for booting | 19:23 |
| somaunn | it may help with your problematic hdd | 19:23 |
| Kilos | sda1 must have probs in | 19:23 |
| Kilos | is it free somaunn ? | 19:24 |
| somaunn | yes sure it's free | 19:24 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:24 |
| somaunn | i don't go nonfree tools | 19:25 |
| Kilos | which one is best there | 19:25 |
| somaunn | i use opensource to help other | 19:25 |
| somaunn | but also for my personal day to day job | 19:25 |
| Kilos | gparted i have | 19:25 |
| Kilos | partedmagic | 19:25 |
| somaunn | give a try to hirenbootcd | 19:25 |
| Kilos | i also have ubcd | 19:25 |
| somaunn | from what i've read on the internet, gparted is no more free | 19:26 |
| Kilos | thats good but you gotta learn it first | 19:26 |
| somaunn | if you want a free version then you only get the older one | 19:26 |
| Kilos | i have gparted in all ubuntu cds | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ubuntu comes with it on the live cd/dvd | 19:26 |
| somaunn | learn what hirenbootcd ? or opensource ? | 19:26 |
| Kilos | ubcd | 19:27 |
| Kilos | ultimate boot cd | 19:27 |
| Kilos | got many tools | 19:27 |
| Kilos | http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html | 19:28 |
| somaunn | is ubcd a linux based tool ? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | must be | 19:29 |
| Kilos | it does nearly everything | 19:30 |
| Kilos | other good tools are supergrub disk | 19:30 |
| somaunn | okay | 19:30 |
| Kilos | can use it to fix mbrs or boot into windowws or linux drives that cant boot | 19:30 |
| somaunn | long i used ubcd but was running a sort of win Env. | 19:31 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:31 |
| Kilos | i think whats wrong with this drive is the boot sector is corrupt but xp boots from a second partition on its own | 19:33 |
| Kilos | i need a tool to move the boot sector so linux doesnt look for it in sda1 | 19:34 |
| somaunn | Kilos: what brand is the hdd | 19:39 |
| Kilos | samsung hd204ui | 19:39 |
| Kilos | there has been lotsa probs with them i see online | 19:40 |
| Kilos | used to give i/o error all the time but at least now i can do stuff on it | 19:40 |
| somaunn | ok | 19:41 |
| Kilos | was super dead | 19:41 |
| somaunn | then use it as a time to time hdd then | 19:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:41 |
| somaunn | you know what it all about so why u suffer trying to resurect it | 19:41 |
| Kilos | i wont to get ubuntu on it and work it hard to see if it crasjes or where i can use say 1.5 TB and keep it stable | 19:42 |
| Kilos | im old and unemployed so its my hobby to fix broken things | 19:42 |
| somaunn | Kilos: Okay i see, you want to see deep truth about that hdd | 19:42 |
| Kilos | yea | 19:42 |
| somaunn | Kilos: you are not old for me, your knowledge compensate the rest | 19:43 |
| Kilos | no man | 19:43 |
| somaunn | give a try to fedora; just to see if it works | 19:43 |
| Kilos | im 62 and only started learning about pcs about 6 years ago | 19:43 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: HDD issues? | 19:43 |
| somaunn | if it works then you know something new if not then you something new too | 19:44 |
| Kilos | the guys on this channel have helped me fro total stupid noob | 19:44 |
| somaunn | Kilos: you are a rock star | 19:44 |
| somaunn | i'm 29 and still struggling with linux when you teach me a lot | 19:45 |
| Kilos | SilverCode, im trying to resurect a discarded 2tb so i got a bigger drive | 19:45 |
| Kilos | no man somaunn i point you to the right guys thats all | 19:45 |
| Kilos | im the greeter bot here | 19:45 |
| somaunn | i did PC/network/security courses and worked for years but still i feel like i know nothing | 19:45 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: most important thing I learnt recently about hard drives ... smartctl | 19:46 |
| somaunn | SilverCode: thank, Kilos you see we all missed that | 19:46 |
| Kilos | smart dont even wanna look at it. it says trash it | 19:46 |
| somaunn | Kilos: do a smartclt | 19:46 |
| Kilos | so ive disabled smart | 19:46 |
| SilverCode | then trash it :) | 19:46 |
| Kilos | lol no man i cant afford to trash 2TB. ill try save 1.5tb | 19:47 |
| SilverCode | smartctl usually tells you that the drive is failing mechanically | 19:47 |
| SilverCode | so while you may be able to keep it alive for a short time, it will die sooner or later | 19:48 |
| SilverCode | it isn't like bad sectors | 19:48 |
| Kilos | my main 500g drive i use also was trash according to smart but i installed xp on the first 20g and then ubuntu and its been running nearly a year i think | 19:48 |
| SilverCode | that you mark as duds and carry on ... smartctl talks to the firmware on the drive controller which will say if it can or can't reliably save information | 19:49 |
| Kilos | all ubuntu wants is a stable boot sector | 19:49 |
| somaunn | Kilos: then do a backup of of what you have there and make ready | 19:49 |
| Kilos | i have backups somaunn | 19:49 |
| somaunn | i personally never trust hdd not passing smartctl check | 19:50 |
| Kilos | well if i get it going then we see how long it lasts | 19:50 |
| somaunn | Kilos: i admire you | 19:51 |
| Kilos | aw ty. its fun playing with stuff other peeps throw away | 19:51 |
| somaunn | my project for this year is to setup a Server at my place and make it workk like companies server runs | 19:52 |
| somaunn | dhcp/Ldap/filesrv/printsrv/.... | 19:53 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: heh, hopefully not how most companies servers run :) | 19:53 |
| somaunn | evething i mean | 19:53 |
| Kilos | lol i setup a ubuntu server here but didnt know what to do with it | 19:53 |
| Kilos | now that drive is running kubuntu | 19:53 |
| somaunn | that's my project and to do so i choosed Redhat as my main distro on both desktop and server | 19:54 |
| somaunn | SilverCode: can't get you (remember i'm a french guys) | 19:54 |
| somaunn | some sentences in very deep english are just mystery for me | 19:55 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: completely understand | 19:55 |
| SilverCode | * I | 19:55 |
| SilverCode | best way to learn about server admin though is to set up a media server | 19:56 |
| somaunn | a media server ? | 19:56 |
| SilverCode | teaches firewall rules, port forwarding, cron jobs, scripting | 19:56 |
| somaunn | tell me more SilverCode | 19:57 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: for instance, I have a media server plugged into my TV that automatically checks for new TV shows that I specify, townloads them via torrents, renames the files and places them in my XBMC folder and sends me an email saying I have a new episode of X to watch | 19:58 |
| SilverCode | that server then runs XBMC | 19:58 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:58 |
| SilverCode | it also allows me to browse youtube on my tablet on then play it on the TV | 19:59 |
| SilverCode | or connect to it remotely and ask it to download something | 19:59 |
| SilverCode | and should my phone ring while I'm watching TV, it pauses the TV and tell me there is an incoming phonecall from X | 20:00 |
| somaunn | SilverCode: that's fun | 20:00 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: indeed | 20:00 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: and well worth the effort .. mostly because you learn so much while doing it | 20:00 |
| Kilos | wow | 20:00 |
| somaunn | next year maybe, i wish i will impress my wife and my kids with | 20:01 |
| Kilos | ok guys. bed time for me. sleep tight | 20:01 |
| Kilos | see youall tomorrow | 20:02 |
| SilverCode | night Kilos | 20:02 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: the easy route is to look into Sickbeard | 20:02 |
| somaunn | this year i've targeted to become an RHCE and develop couples of things in my country arround opensource | 20:03 |
| somaunn | Sickbeard ? what's that again SilverCode you got to tell me more about | 20:03 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: what things are you thinking about developing? | 20:03 |
| somaunn | ok ! first of all increase my linux skills and knowledges | 20:04 |
| SilverCode | Sickbeard does abour 90% of what I just described, but using news serves instead of torrents :) | 20:04 |
| somaunn | secondly create (actually re create) the LUG of my town (we don't have one official LUG here) | 20:05 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: where you from? | 20:05 |
| somaunn | that's why i want to increase in capacities and knowledges | 20:06 |
| somaunn | cuz i know you can't take where never been before | 20:06 |
| somaunn | Congo Brazzaville | 20:07 |
| somaunn | i'm even currently there | 20:07 |
| SilverCode | looking at Google Maps, you look like you are living near some really scenary | 20:09 |
| somaunn | really ? | 20:11 |
| magespawn | Hey all, been lurking a bit | 20:11 |
| somaunn | hi magespawn | 20:12 |
| magespawn | Hi somaunn | 20:12 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: well, yeah, you have that massive delta to your right | 20:12 |
| magespawn | hi Silvercode | 20:12 |
| SilverCode | hi magespawn | 20:12 |
| magespawn | What phone are you using? | 20:13 |
| SilverCode | me? Gaalxy SII | 20:13 |
| SilverCode | *Galaxy | 20:13 |
| somaunn | an iPhone 4s + ZTE Skate | 20:13 |
| somaunn | for me | 20:13 |
| magespawn | So that trick with the tv, are they on a network together ? | 20:14 |
| somaunn | i guess SilverCode runs a sort of in house wifi network | 20:14 |
| SilverCode | yeah ... using Yatse | 20:15 |
| magespawn | Don't know that | 20:15 |
| * magespawn goes to google | 20:15 | |
| SilverCode | magespawn: very good paid for XBMC remote | 20:15 |
| SilverCode | well worth the money | 20:15 |
| magespawn | I see | 20:15 |
| SilverCode | somaunn: yes, I have most of my electronics connected up via Wifi | 20:16 |
| SilverCode | to my home network | 20:16 |
| somaunn | yeah that's great | 20:17 |
| somaunn | i actually do that tough i'm sitting into parents house since close a year | 20:18 |
| somaunn | i wish i will do that when go stay at my place | 20:18 |
| === mage2 is now known as ghosttsessebehou | ||
| somaunn | but SilverCode i'm learning a lot | 20:21 |
| somaunn | really | 20:21 |
| === ghosttsessebehou is now known as magespawn | ||
| magespawn | Right now | 20:22 |
| magespawn | Silvercode how does that compare to mediguntu? | 20:22 |
| magespawn | S/guntu/buntu | 20:22 |
| magespawn | Good night all | 20:25 |
| somaunn | night all | 20:32 |
| somaunn | have to leave now | 20:32 |
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