[05:19] o/ [05:19] inetpro: ping [05:19] inetpro: got some weird link on twitter [05:19] is your account safe? [05:21] http://slexy.org/view/s2gRT2j4es [05:59] morning [05:59] nuvolari: so did I, he knows it's spamming [06:16] good morning [06:16] nuvolari: yep, sorry for that [06:17] my account clearly got compromised [06:18] still not sure whether it was through a weak password or one of the app connections [06:19] I somehow still can't send DM messages to anyone at this stage [06:19] guess twitter picked up that I was spamming everyone [06:26] morning all [06:28] good morning ThatGraemeGuy [06:52] Morning everyone [06:53] I have 12.04 64bit , all updates , and it doesn't want to take vlc as my default video player. I did make vlc the default in system settings for videos. But still when I open a video it opens with media player instead. Any ideas why ? [07:08] More almal [07:14] anyone here dabble in photography at all? particularly with post-processing RAW files [08:21] good morning all [08:22] Maaz: coffee on [08:22] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:26] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:19] morning ThatGraemeGuy and all others [09:21] hi Kilos [09:21] good moaning [09:23] oh hi liamT Golynx [09:23] Golynx, something to writwe down and do when data comes [09:24] install ubuntu-restricted-extrs and addons [09:24] extras [09:24] they both in synaptic [09:25] Hey liamT [09:25] makes more stuff work, ask the clever peeps what [09:25] hi Kilos [09:25] Hmm are you sure thats needed Kilos [09:25] hi Golynx [09:25] Hi psyatw [09:26] man i dunno what all you do but i needed them for something [09:26] makes stuff work [09:26] probably for playing commercial DVDs [09:27] ah ty ThatGraemeGuy [09:27] I never watch dvd on pc [09:27] storm killed power 10 mins after i went off last night and was only fixed after 10 this morning [09:27] Hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:28] 'ello [09:31] ThatGraemeGuy, any ideas how to force 12.04 to see a creen thats 17" but gets seen as 640x480 [09:31] i cant google till month end [09:31] sorry [09:31] stupig samsung syncmaster [09:31] not sure, i've never ever had that happen [09:32] stupid as well [09:32] on my other make same size screen this drive works fine but im using ti to work on drives [09:33] some samsung bug [09:33] grrr [09:41] Yay got the default application thing working :) [10:05] hmm , no webcam :/ [11:18] Kilos dont you have a windows 7 disk [11:22] I dont think this was the right time for me to try ubuntu. I wana use it when i have a more supported pc. [11:31] yes i do but cant post it for some months [11:31] need data and meds if been putting off to safe for pc stuff [11:32] all you need is just lotsa internet [11:33] s/safe/save [11:33] How much do you want for the windows 7 disk [11:34] i use it man, its not a for sale one but can make a copy [11:34] but i can buy them for 879 i think [11:35] hmm, so the copy wont work [11:35] win7 basic for 879 [11:36] why wont it work? [11:36] win7 pro for R1499 [11:36] The serial numbers and stuff windows restrict for not making copies of their os's [11:38] mine is also a copy [11:39] but dont go online with it [11:39] My biggest issue in ubuntu is, the upgrades are too large , its more than a gig, and java dont run by saving cpu use here, so i cant use android emulator and blackberry emulator. Aswell as the apache server permissions stuff on ubuntu gives me too much headaces [11:41] This laptop is not that well supported by ubuntu [11:42] there i gave you the price of new legal copies of win7 [11:43] On windows 7 everything works fine. The most intensive programs run at below 40% there with this laptop compared to over 100% on ubuntu. [11:43] ai [11:44] i dont have a legal one [11:44] Everything is fucke up now! My future flushed like crap [11:48] Thanks for nothing Kilos [11:49] yw [11:49] I bet your laughing now [11:49] about? [11:50] How you convinced me to fuck up this pc [11:50] if you had of listened and done the correct upgrading everything would wor [11:50] work [11:51] if you knew as much as you think you do you would have unlocked the locked win7 stuff and installed alongside [11:52] but if blaming me makes you feel good then carry on [11:52] You keep pushing on upgrade nonsene wont fix anything. I installed the drivers and this thing wont even run the basic 3D programs [11:52] last time i waste time and money sending anyone anything [11:52] you must listen fool [11:53] You only told me you found the unlock option after i already installed ubuntu [11:53] ubuntu needs those security upgrades after a clean install [11:53] I'm not blaming you [11:53] thats correct my son told me about them we he came to visit [11:55] I dunno what security upgrades have to do with system performance [11:55] Ubuntu's supposed to be secure [11:55] its not security as windows peeps see it , it is necessary stuff in ubuntu [11:56] Why is it neccassary [11:56] its to complete the packages that of which there were basic installs [11:57] I dont understand [11:57] yes [11:58] and you dont want to try understand [11:58] little things like acpi get upgraded with clean installs [11:58] and everything else [11:59] http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/why-you-should-always-keep-ubuntu-updated-linux/ [11:59] rtfm [11:59] if ubuntu installed a complete system the dvd would be large [11:59] ty vince [12:03] That link still dont satidfy me Vince-0 [12:03] Kilos what version was your dvd 12.04.2 ? [12:04] most likely yes [12:04] 12.04.3 ? [12:05] .3 i think [12:05] Those are just patches made to the base version, why would a newer patch improve anything [12:06] updates are for security, bug fixes, patches etc [12:06] performance can be affected by this [12:06] you're having graphics display performance issues? [12:06] welcome to Linux, get Googling on Ubuntu sites for graphics driver fixes [12:07] DONT come in here and get rowdy, we're here for free so you're lucky to even get a comment [12:07] Yes Vince-0 , plus java working overtime [12:07] now get lost, go do some reading for a week before accusing Kilos of anything [12:07] he hasnt done a first update/upgrade since installing [12:07] java? did you google that? Java is a piece of crap [12:07] let me guess, you're running a Celeron CPU? [12:08] but PULEEZ, go read some Google [12:08] I need java for android emulator and blackberry its not crap [12:08] you will get nowhere otherwise [12:09] no its a dual core AMD cpu , that ubuntu hates, Intel supposed to be the most prefered cpu for ubutnu dunno why [12:09] there's two Java's for Ubuntu - SUN and IcedTea [12:09] repo comes with IcedTea. Try Sun 1.6 JRE package? [12:10] there's always a way but you have to help yourself first otherwise I'm going to say GTFO [12:11] OpenJDK suposed to work best for linux [12:11] meh [12:11] I doubt it but you need to try a few things first [12:11] http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-6-7-jre-or-jdk [12:11] those emulation apps will have preffered JREs [12:11] I always use Oracle's [12:12] OK, fine i appologise [12:12] Sorry Kilos for overreacting [12:12] np [12:13] I will be back next month, take care [12:13] but seriously when you do the proper upgrade everything will work better and properly [12:13] you too [12:13] Java is a magical creature, so hack away [12:13] the worst kind of noobs [12:13] tough ya [12:13] Wat gaat hier aan ? [12:14] ty for the help [12:14] kk [12:14] mazal, noob raas omdat hy n noob is [12:15] I'll be the first to be accommodating to noobs but jeez that guy needs to catch a wake up [12:15] *lols - back to work! [12:16] peeps dont realize how important the first update/upgrade is [12:16] thats why its over 200m [12:17] I checked that part about complaining about updates, that is just a part of all os's now. A fresh Win 7 install has over 1gig updates currently [12:18] yes but with 7 it works without the update [12:18] ubuntu needs the first one to work properly [12:18] its like lots of packages only have a basic install [12:19] eish! [12:19] Kilos: I'm still not convinced he would be happy even after an update [12:19] saying that the update will fix everything might be the wrong thing to say [12:19] i felt soory for him losing his work and all [12:20] but maybe thats why [12:20] lol no backups? [12:20] im mean his job [12:20] oom Kilos, I might be running late tonight. Have a competition reward ceremony at 18:00 (photo club) [12:21] whats happening tonight nuvolari ? [12:21] meeting next tuesday my man [12:22] #Kilos - what media card you using ? [12:22] nuvolari ! long time no see [12:23] me? nvidia something or other [12:23] fx5500 i think [12:23] surely through the nvidia settings you can change the screen settings [12:23] and i have nvidia-173 installed [12:23] i've also got a samsung extra screen, it works fine once I use that [12:24] and I'm using nvidia 8400M gs [12:24] aha lemme see if i can do that [12:24] can you open them settings from cli? [12:25] as in shell or gui ? [12:25] everything else hangs off the end of the screen so no apply buttons [12:25] shell [12:25] command line interface [12:25] i have nvidia-current, nvidia-settings-304 installed [12:25] here too i think [12:26] you don't run X ? [12:26] i dunno [12:26] you use xfce or unity or kde ? [12:26] works fine with genisat screen [12:26] unity [12:26] on here now that is [12:27] you should be able to find it in there, the nvidia settings program [12:27] bbl [12:27] ty === smile is now known as Guest54440 === Guest54440 is now known as smile [12:27] hi :) [12:27] hi smile [12:32] The NVIDIA X driver on P4:0.0 is not new [12:32] enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page. [12:32] hmm... [12:35] not serious ill get back to the good screen tomorrow [12:36] NVIDIA drivers suck ;) [12:49] lemme reboot and see if the 304 drivers make a diffs [12:49] wbb [12:52] oooyay [12:53] now i can work on the 2TB in peace and not sukkel on this pc [12:54] danke liamT [12:55] it work ? [12:55] liamT: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell liamT Thanks alot installing the 304 settings sorted the prob" 59 seconds ago [12:55] no prob [12:56] i didnt have to do anything more except reboot [12:56] yay [12:58] inetpro, you will all be happy. ive made maverick into 12.04 and no 10.10 cd to go back [12:59] im now on 12.04 here with 10.10 home intack [13:00] it has a convenient screen for dragging screens any which way [13:00] lol dont give me more to play with and mess up liamT [13:01] weird though, the additional drivers option chose nvidia-173 [13:02] so i used gdebi to install 304 from my archives [13:07] i think I installed current, and 304 comes with that, i'm on 13.10 [13:07] thought whatever works [13:07] yeah thanks again [13:08] I also install dkms, just in case things need to be recompiled for the kernel, i remember having a problem with that a few years back [13:09] i inastalled 304 and 304 settings and the install did the dkms stuff automatically [13:29] sjoe inetpro storm is hier. hopelik varby as jy huis toe gaan [13:29] i go pump water quick [13:30] ai! [13:47] dit sous [14:12] Vince-0, i think hell be back. he knows buntu is better but just doesnt want to admit that he messed up with unticking security updates [14:12] if he was so hard up for data he wouldnt be trying to make a webcam work [14:13] hey all [14:15] hi Squirm hows things? [14:17] Hello everyone [14:17] hi somaunn [14:17] Kilos, how are things doing here [14:17] ? [14:18] good ty and there? [14:28] good too [14:28] great. can i ask where you are? [14:29] i having an hard time with some updates on my lin box [14:29] Kilos: i'm in Congo (central africa) [14:29] aha [14:29] what probs [14:29] how are you updating? [14:30] just doing normal updates [14:30] phew need to take a break [14:30] developing a cool application in spring [14:30] but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted [14:31] tcpdump [14:31] they don't get updated like it supposed to be [14:31] somaun do you have aptitude installed [14:31] Kilos: using fedora with yum [14:31] aptitude gives work arounds normally [14:32] oi [14:32] look for a yummitude [14:32] hehe [14:32] Squirm, can you help somaunn ? [14:33] is fedora and red hat the same thing? [14:33] Squirm, is the redhat man here [14:33] hey that mean Squirm is my man [14:33] yeah [14:36] as a matter of interest what error message do you get? [14:36] if its lots paste to slexy.org [14:43] Kilos: they're not [14:43] they're very different [14:43] eish [14:43] although they're by the same company [14:43] now where we find someone to help him? [14:43] Fedora is a community version, funded by Red Hat [14:43] ah [14:44] somaunn, havent they got an irc channel [14:44] if they like ideas that are in Fedora, they will bug test the hell out of it and release it in RH [14:44] what's the problem? [14:44] see what somaunn say above [14:44] update errors [14:45] but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted [14:45] but stuck at initscripts, nfs-utils, selinux-policy-targeted [14:45] sorry [14:45] I see [14:46] Squirm, Kilos: look here for what it shows me [14:47] Kilos: yes they've got an irc channel but have to register etc. [14:47] eish [14:47] Kilos: i went to the french irc channel but the help is not that good there [14:47] paste the error message [14:47] tried to connect to the #rhel but no succes [14:48] Squirm, is normally clued up [14:48] Kilos, Squirm: sorry i forgot to paste, look here http://pastebin.com/9iAwa3Bg [14:48] in future use slexy.org. my pc struggles with pastebin [14:48] (28, 'Operation too slow. Less than 1000 bytes/sec transferred the last 30 seconds') [14:49] so your download rate was less than 1kb/s for 30s [14:49] it fails on that [14:49] have you tried another update? [14:50] yum update [14:50] it should just download the packages which never downloaded [14:50] Squirm: yes, it's now since a couple of days [14:50] have you tried a different mirror? [14:50] this morning i've do,e some updates 47meg but only these packages failed (once again) [14:51] Squirm: not [14:51] so everything except those packages update? [14:51] i guess i wil have to add another mirror [14:52] Squirm: already using the fastestmirror pluggin [14:52] from what I see, your download speed is to blame, with those 3 packages [14:52] then, try a local install [14:52] what fedora version do you have? [14:53] 20 [14:53] I see [14:53] somaunn: go here [14:53] http://mirror.west.ig2ad.com/Fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm [14:53] download that package to your PC, using your browser [14:54] Squirm: yes using fedora 20 x64 [14:54] or in terminal: wget http://mirror.west.ig2ad.com/Fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm [14:55] Squirm: i also thought it was the speed but i tried late in the night when i'm "alone in the dark" with full BD but still the same [14:55] then type, yum localinstall /path/to/downloaded/rpm/selinux-policy-targeted-3.12.1-117.fc20.noarch.rpm [14:55] somaunn: try that [14:56] Squirm: done with selinux-policy [14:57] now try a yum update [14:57] Squirm: processing [14:57] if it doesn't do the last 2, you're going to have to do the same with the next two [14:58] Squirm: you are a boss, went like a charm [14:58] strange that it was only that one package though [14:58] so i believe the problem was with selinux-policy [14:58] * Squirm shrugs [14:59] but if it's from the same repo, surely the transfer speeds should be exactly the same [14:59] I don't like selinux :/ [14:59] it's a bitch when you need to sys admin [14:59] excuse my language :/ [15:00] Squirm, well done. ty [15:04] Squirm: no problem, i sometime use hard words too [15:04] Squirm: if you don't like selinux, what you prefer then [15:08] I guess selinux is put there for a purpose, I recognise that purpose [15:08] it's just hard to get used to [15:08] it's basically file security on steroids [15:09] locks programs/users to use certain ports/files [15:09] Squirm: good, i'm currently learning to pass my RHCSA certificate and in few months i expect to pass the RHCE certificate too [15:10] Squirm: as the redhat guys arround what can you advice me to do ? [15:12] meh [15:12] I failed my RHCE [15:12] today I booked to do my RHCE on the 4th of April [15:12] can't really say anything in terms of the exam [15:13] you must just follow the course outline you find on the RH site [15:13] but you get the RHCSA already or not ? [15:13] s/course/exam [15:13] I do [15:13] that cool [15:14] so now to start learning again... [15:14] i found few similarities points between RHCSA/RCHE and Security+ from Comptia [15:15] thats why i want to go Redhat on both RHCSA/RHCE and the end pass my Security+ exam i will be more confident if i go that way [15:15] by the way THANK YOU SO MUCH Squirm [15:17] yeah [15:17] I want to pass my RHCE, then maybe do LPI [15:17] download and use CentOS [15:17] CentOS = Red Hat [15:27] Squirm: to be honest i worked with CentOS for few days but was not that impressed, a lot of missing things in there [15:27] then i just moved to RHEL 6.1 Beta and got al my stuff working out of the box [15:28] now i'm just waiting for RHEL 7 Beta that i've asked to a friend of mine then i will make it as my default OS and work from there [15:28] don't like gnome 2 model at all [15:28] gnome 3.10 rocks [15:29] what are the topics you recommand to focus on as an RHCSA [15:29] ? [15:44] i'm back [15:45] network issue [15:48] wb [15:48] Kilos: cool [16:45] i'm back [16:45] OS issues [16:46] installed VMware and gave 2048MB of RAM out of the 4GB i have [16:46] my laptop just froze i don't know why [16:46] still need to investigate [16:56] hi pogodina [16:58] somaunn, is vmware like running virtual box? [16:59] maybe your ram is too little [17:05] somaunn: I can't tell you what to focus on [17:06] and like I said, CentOS is a package for package clone of RH [17:06] hi smile [17:06] hi Kilos :) [17:11] Kilos: i'm not getting you well [17:24] Squirm: it is an obligation to use resize2fs after using of lvextend command [17:25] oh sorry, is vmware like making a virtual drive on your system? [17:31] Kilos: Yeah [17:32] it's works even better than Vbox from what i've seen up to now [17:32] when i wanted to do that here i was told 2 gig ram is not enough [17:33] Kilos: i just reduced the size of the needed memory to 1024MB and the Vmachine is working like a charm [17:33] cool [17:33] Kilos: which os did you tried to install [17:33] Kilos: on my VMware i'm running redhat 6.1 beta in full screen no problem [17:33] i think win 7 into ubuntu virtualbox [17:34] it worked but was very slow [17:45] :O I'm late [17:45] hi oom Kilos [17:45] lo somaunn [17:45] hi nuvolari [17:45] Next Meeting: Tue, 28 January 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1bmNi0u [17:45] ! [17:46] good evening [17:46] why do my notifications start a week early :-/ [17:46] I worried for nothing [17:46] hello charl [17:46] i told you today when you said you would be late [17:46] hi charl [17:49] nuvolari, note its tuesday hey! [17:51] hi nuvolari [17:51] hi Kilos [17:51] i just got this sinking feeling when i saw this [17:51] http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings [17:51]