[00:30] <ahmadfaris> Sobahul khair
[00:30] <ahmadfaris> Good morning
[02:41] <lanuel> hi
[02:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> !hi
[02:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol, how did that exclamation point get over there?
[03:55] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  I'm missing something obvious here.  I'm trying to move a Kubuntu 10.04 installation from sda1 to sda8 (I want to free up a primary partition).  I've rsync'd sda1 to sda8, edited the fstab to have the proper UUID for sda8 as the root partition.  I've run update-grub on sda1 and it sees the new Lucid installation on sda8.  So I reboot and select the new Lucid installtion from the grub menu.  But it boots into sda1 as root!
[03:55] <DarthFrog> Even if I boot from a Lucid install CD and chroot into a mounted sda8 (with bind mounts of proc, sys & dev), do a grub-install and update-grub in the chroot'ed environment - next reboot, root is /dev/sda1.  I *can't* get it to boot into a sda8 root!  What am I missing??
[04:10] <DarthFrog> OK, never mind.  Got it working. :-)
[05:45] <safridzal> hi, I have question. I can use my phone-laptop bluetooth to connect to internet on my old KDE (linuxmint 15 KDE), but after I reinstall using Kubuntu 12.10 (upgraded to KDE 4.11 using ppa) I cannot do that again, is there a fix to my problem?
[05:46] <safridzal> pairing bluetooth not trigger network service, just file transfer service..
[05:47] <pnunn> I'm having the same issues with 13.10 safridzal: seems the bluetooth pairing has been "removed" for some unknown reason. Have asked a few places, but not getting anything from it.
[05:47] <safridzal> duh
[05:47] <safridzal> sad thing to know
[05:48] <safridzal> i've tried to install any bluetooth related package.. but still no fix
[05:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you check your startup list to see if the service is starting?
[05:49] <safridzal> i do miss bluetooth inet.. sob... not having smartphone leave me with only 2 choice: cable and bluetooth.. no wifi
[05:50] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: the only bluetooth related is bluetooth and bluetooth filetransfer
[05:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[05:51] <pnunn> I'm finding the wifi tethering to be pretty hit and miss too safridzal: it connects OK, but drops out after about 15 minuets, so its cable to the phone for me now sadly (I think its a phone issue rather than Kubuntu I hasten to add).
[05:53] <safridzal> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/01/21/skinsut.jpeg
[05:53] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: that my screenshot
[05:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> is BT handled by NM?
[05:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> or it's own gui?
[05:55] <safridzal> pnunn: it should be phone issue, I can connect just fine (and stable) using my friend's
[05:55] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: its configured on NM on my old KDE
[05:55] <safridzal> my phone detected as modem (on NM)
[05:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> safridzal, what kind of modem?
[05:58] <safridzal> forget, gsm modem or BT modem, cant remember
[05:58] <safridzal> but it shows on nm aplet
[05:59] <safridzal> it only shown when i activate my laptop BT
[05:59] <safridzal> even if no paired device around
[05:59] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: did you thing its the new nm problem?
[06:00] <safridzal> *think
[06:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> to rule that out, you would have to test in LM16
[06:00] <pnunn> It absolutely is safridzal: no question about that.
[06:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> does LM use the same NM?
[06:00] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: already done, the same with kubuntu
[06:01] <safridzal> i installed 3 days ago on next partition
[06:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> safridzal, is bluez installed?
[06:01] <safridzal> yep
[06:03] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: is there a command to show us if the foo package is installed or not? (its not nice to have to open muon just to do that)
[06:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> in terminal, apt-cache policy package-name
[06:04] <safridzal> bluez:
[06:04] <safridzal>   Installed: 4.101-0ubuntu8b1
[06:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> how about apt-cache policy bluetooth
[06:06] <safridzal> bluetooth:
[06:06] <safridzal>   Installed: (none)
[06:06] <safridzal> shoud i install?
[06:06] <safridzal> wait
[06:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> what could it hurt?
[06:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> it depends on bluez being installed anyway
[06:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> it has all the stack plugins
[06:07] <safridzal> installed,
[06:07] <safridzal> btw, i've done that (but i think its on my LM partition)... should I reboot?
[06:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> unless you know how to restart services, yes.
[06:08] <safridzal> kay
[06:08] <safridzal> brb
[06:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[06:12] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: still no BT network
[06:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> :(
[06:12] <safridzal> i've re-pair the device to make sure
[06:13] <safridzal> well, its what we called regression
[06:14] <safridzal> upgrading make worse
[06:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh, I know the feeling.
[06:15] <safridzal> is it ever happened  to you before?
[06:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm using an intel 82855 chipset, on a dell laptop, and can't use a kernel higher than 3.5.
[06:15] <safridzal> its my 1st time tho..
[06:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> System:    Host ROL-PD-D505 Kernel 3.2.0-58-generic-pae i686 (32 bit)
[06:16] <Poisoned_Dragon>            Desktop KDE 4.12.1 Distro Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[06:16] <safridzal> heh? you upgrade the OS version but not the kernel then?
[06:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> I installed 14.04, then added the precise-security repo to get the latest 3.2 kernel.
[06:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> slick, eh?
[06:18] <safridzal> so why with the new kernel? if its installed why dont you just use it?
[06:19] <safridzal> can't imagine better perform on old kernel instead a new one
[06:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> after kernel 3.5, the laptop lid switch hangs the system.
[06:20] <safridzal> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?84336-New-KDE-Plasma-NM-Sees-Its-First-Release
[06:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> kernel 3.5 is not on an lts and ubuntu will end it's support for it, this year.
[06:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> so, 3.2 it is.
[06:21] <safridzal> "and your only chance is to add the bluetooth tethering profile with bluedevil. " can you explain that to me please? my english isnt really good. cant understand the whole meaning
[06:22] <safridzal> Poisoned_Dragon: good thing that 3.2 is supported till '17 then eh
[06:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> yup. :)
[06:22] <safridzal> page 2 post number 2
[06:22] <safridzal> he talk about using bluedevil to connect? but how?
[06:23] <safridzal> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?84336-New-KDE-Plasma-NM-Sees-Its-First-Release&p=356771#post356771
[06:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> there is an app installed called bluedevil
[06:25] <safridzal> should i install it?
[06:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> should already be there
[06:26] <safridzal> bluedevil is already the newest version
[06:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> check your apps menu under internet
[06:27] <safridzal> there it is
[06:27] <safridzal> but cannot opened
[06:27] <pnunn> This could be the problem on 13.10... he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:27] <pnunn>  bluedevil : Depends: obex-data-server but it is not going to be installed
[06:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's going to be an icon in your system tray
[06:28] <safridzal> loading (with blink2 circle) but not opened, nothing on tray
[06:28] <safridzal> just bluetooth tray
[06:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> click on bluetooth tray
[06:28] <safridzal> agh
[06:28] <safridzal> need to reboot,, no adapted found
[06:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[06:29] <safridzal> i have to reactivate using windows
[06:29] <safridzal> brb
[06:36] <safridzal> got me another problem, my BT cannot detected, even rfkill unblock all
[06:36] <safridzal> it shown on console, but not on tray
[06:37] <safridzal> and I know, it work yesterday
[06:37] <safridzal> but not now
[06:37] <safridzal> weird eh?
[06:37] <pnunn> I think Poisoned_dragon has left safridzal, but looks as though they were correct. bluedevil-wizard has an option to make a network connection.
[06:38] <safridzal> pnunn: it works for you ?
[06:38] <safridzal> great, now i just have to make this BT to stable-ly detected
[06:38] <pnunn> Wouldn't go that far. It's crashed bluetooth on my phone, but that's not unusual. I think it will though, seems to be the same as I had previousli.
[06:39] <safridzal> ok . great
[06:39] <safridzal> I find that my BT often  not detected if using ubuntu based
[06:40] <safridzal> rfkill shows that bt isnt blocked, but tray  cant find adapter... Never had this problem when use debian.
[06:40] <pnunn> Just rebooting the phone... sigh.
[06:42] <safridzal> another problem : after upgrade flashplugin installed, the sys notif keep bugging me with not finished install bla bla bla
[06:43] <safridzal> but I know that the package is upgraded, the flash plughin (*.tar thing) is downloaded and installed, so whats the problem with the sys notif?
[06:44] <safridzal> failure to download extra data file ( its the tar thing) and its been downloaded, success
[06:44] <pnunn> Thats a known issue, do a search and you'll find that ane.
[06:44] <pnunn> one*
[06:45] <pnunn> So close... its trying to setup the network connection.. just not getting there.
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:55] <nicola> ciao
[07:55] <nicola> !list
[10:56] <yossarianuk> what kde and kernel versions is 14.04 going to have ?
[10:57] <yossarianuk> i ask as kde 4.11 is an LTS version....
[11:01] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Currently Trusty has kernel version: 3.13.0-4-generic So I think it will stick with that. There is some discussion whether Trusty should be released with KDE 4.12 or KDE 4.13.
[11:01] <lordievader> yossarianuk: For the discussion see the kubuntu-devel mailing list.
[11:04] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thank you
[11:04] <yossarianuk> well if not kde 4.11 (which has longer support) then 4.13 would be better for 5 year support...
[11:06] <lordievader> yossarianuk: That is the discussion, however the release date of 4.13 is a bit difficult.
[11:10] <yossarianuk> couldn't you just delay the release of kubuntu 14.04 by a few weeks to catch any major bugg?
[11:10] <yossarianuk> bugs?
[11:11] <lordievader> yossarianuk: That is not for me to say, I'd say go to #kubuntu-devel or discuss it on the mailing-list.
[11:11] <yossarianuk> cool - thanks
[12:08] <yossarianuk> whats the best way of connecting kubuntu to a AD domain ?
[12:08] <yossarianuk> i.e are there any GUI tools like OpenSuse's yast ?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:45] <ubuntufreak> How can i modify the keyboard shortcut for KRunner in Kubuntu 13.10 ?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak, alt+F2 ?
[12:58] <dougl> BluesKaj, morning
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'morning dougl
[14:27] <Climax> Hey People :)
[14:28] <Climax> Hi have a Problem with Kubunut Installation anyone time to help me?
[14:28] <Climax> *Kubuntu
[14:29] <Climax> I have installed the Bootloader on sda2 but my Standard Partition is sda1 so now I can't start Kubuntu
[14:29] <Climax> what can I do?
[14:29] <yossarianuk>  Standard Partition ?
[14:30] <Climax> I have a Windows 7 System on sda1
[14:30] <lordievader> Climax: The bootloader is usually installed to the mbr. Not to a partition.
[14:30] <Climax> so that is the Partition that is booting
[14:30] <Climax> but I can't see anything from Ubuntu ;)
[14:31] <Climax> I thing I have make a mistake I have select sda2 for the Bootloader installation
[14:31] <Climax> what can I do now
[14:31] <Climax> ?
[14:35] <lordievader> Climax: Run a live-cd/usb go to the terminal mount your partition where /boot/grub is located and run: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=<mount-path>/boot /dev/sda (modify where necessary)
[14:37] <Climax> Ok I will try that thank you :)
[14:45] <Climax> Has Kubuntu 13.10 Grub or Grub2 ?
[14:46] <yofel> latter
[16:29] <Affondo> ??
[18:42] <dougl> where do I find autologin for a user on 12.04 to disable it
[19:09] <NotTheDroidYoure> test
[19:16] <MangaKaDenza> say, is there a place where I can learn about how to use ubiquity?
[19:22] <jluc_> ubiquity is about being in many places isnt ?
[19:23] <lordievader> jluc_: I think he is talking about the installer on the live-cd, that one is also called ubiquity.
[19:23] <yossarianuk> dougl: This is on kubuntu 13.10 - but should be similar
[19:23] <lordievader> What do you mean exactly, MangaKaDenza. Do you want to help contribute?
[19:23] <yossarianuk> dougl: go to system settings -> user manager
[19:37] <dougl> thanks
[19:37] <dougl> yossarianuk, thank you
[19:38] <yossarianuk> dougl: np.
[19:40] <MangaKaDenza> lordievader: use it for installing a non-ubuntu based OS, is it possible?
[19:40] <MangaKaDenza> I mean I think it is...
[19:44] <scottn_work> Anybody know if the KDE 4.12.1 fixes are going to be backported?
[19:45] <scottn_work> (For Kubuntu 13.10)
[19:50] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: No idea. For as far as I know it is made for Ubuntu.
[21:40] <per__> Test
[22:12] <dougl> pass
[23:17] <amcrebelfan> I need help with install.
[23:26] <linus> i 'm trying to follow thus tutorial  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ ,but when i come to step 3 i double click the file but i don't get the listed optiond but instead the file is opened in gedit as text file.what went wrong?
[23:32] <valorie> linus, try running it from the command line instead
[23:32] <valorie> cd /path/to/file
[23:32] <valorie> then ./filename
[23:32] <valorie> does that work for you?
[23:33] <valorie> you could also try right-clicking rather than double-clicking
[23:33] <linus> valorie, yes it doe ,thanx a lot
[23:34] <valorie> I successfully installed and used that for awhile, a year or so ago
[23:34] <valorie> best of luck!
[23:34] <valorie> oh cool
[23:35] <linus> right clicking woll only render the copy paste open ... lis
[23:35] <linus> but the ./file works fine ,thanx
[23:39] <valorie> cool