[00:08] anyone know what software and setups I'd need to get PPA-like functionality in a private server setup? Not the whole LP thing, just the PPA functions. [00:09] teward: your own repository? [00:09] jrwren: with the whole upload-source, auto-build, upload to repository shebang that PPAs already have [00:09] teward: or do you want to be able to upload sources and have the system compile it for you like PPA does? [00:10] teward: I'd love that too, if you find something please let me know :) === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === baba is now known as fire_ === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === jtv1 is now known as jtv [09:03] Hello. If I have made changes to iptables, what is the prefered way of saving the rules for next boot; "iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.rules " or can I just use "iptables-save"? [09:08] Repox, look into using iptables-persistent === p3rinceTest_ is now known as p3rinceTest [12:02] lifeless, I appreciate that - the cherry pick I did covers 3.11 kernel as found in saucy [12:53] HI is anyone here familiar with the dotdee concept? thx [13:15] rostam: hi, I wrote dotdee ... what are you looking for? [13:17] kirkland, now THAT is customer service! [13:20] hi guys i have linux server from US and other one is on Autralia, they are connected adn syn by simple internet line, would stablishing a VPN between them would improved.. the conenctivity of both when ti comes to lagged and slowness performance..any idea guys, i particularly used mysql database [13:23] ruben231, VPN is for security - not speed. I doubt that merely switching to VPN would speed things up - but I could be wrong. If no response here, ask in #ubuntu [13:24] ruben231: Adding a VPN won't improve latency; if anything it'll add a few milliseconds === UKn0Meh is now known as UKn0Me [13:29] TJ-: ok so no difference at all for the conenctivity issue of slowness and lagged coz currentlyly i dont used anything [13:29] ruben231: The only cure for those are using a better route, which is outside your control I'd guess [13:32] kirkland, hi thanks for getting back to me. I am still confused on usage. I need to modify some configuration files beloinging to other pkgs through scripting. I am not sure yet how to do this through dotdee, Although I just find out about this pkg and I think it will do what I need, any references on this will greatly appreicated. thx [13:32] my curernt latency to US server form Australia is OK (165 ms) [13:33] rostam: when you say "I", in this case, are you acting as a sysadmin on your own system, or as a Debian package maintainer? [13:33] rostam: because, as I understand it, the latter would be a Debian policy violation (one package mucking with another package's configuration files) [13:37] kirkland, are system will be installed as embedded system, there will be no sysadmin using puppet, chef... We need to changes some of the files, I thought dotdee helps me not to violate the debian packing. The changes to files will be dynamic depends on the environment they are installed. === p3rinceTest_ is now known as p3rinceTest === hXm is now known as hxm [13:46] rostam: I think you're fine, in that case, to use dotdee [13:47] rostam: so first, a couple of (maybe obvious?) pointers... have you read http://manpg.es/dotdee.8 and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/06/dotdee-how-to.html and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/dotdee-modern-proposal-for-improving.html [13:47] rostam: in the latter, I tried to propose dotdee as being an officially blessed way of handling conffiles, but I don't think it went anywhere in Debian [13:49] kirkland, great thanks I will dig into the references you provided. I hope I can find you here in next couple days for more questions. Thanks [13:49] rostam: I'm always here; generally online during the workday in the USA [13:49] kirkland, thanks again [14:12] jamespage: can you push this one back into debian? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6791793/ [14:12] zul, 'submittodebian' [14:12] try it === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster [14:16] jamespage: ok done [14:16] zul, it sends and email - did that work OK? [14:16] should get a confirmation back [14:16] it looks like it [14:22] roaksoax: OK if I take the facter merge? Might as well do it before I look at puppet. [14:22] rbasak: go for it! :) [14:57] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.8/+merge/202473 [14:58] zul, +1 [15:11] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-heatclient/0.2.6/+merge/202480 [15:12] zul, -1 typo [15:12] jamespage: updated [15:14] can someone help me out with this upstart it hangs but when i just fire the start-stop-daemon from the shell it works http://pastebin.com/QtsYWUPb [15:14] it hangs on start [15:15] zul, +1 [15:15] zul, I'm assuming you will merge these btw [15:16] jamespage: yep [15:27] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-troveclient/1.0.3/+merge/202483 [15:27] zul, +1 [15:49] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.4.2/+merge/202486 [15:51] zul, +1 [16:13] Are there good gnuplot alternatives? (Want to know, because I have to decide which tool to study) === rcj` is now known as rcj [16:26] hallyn: any eta for a fixed qemu package in trusty? [16:27] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-swiftclient/1.8.0/+merge/202497 [16:28] zul, +1 [16:29] thanks [16:30] zul, I have trusty deploying again in the lab btw [16:30] \o/ [16:33] jamespage: 2 more ;) [16:39] jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/2.3.3/+merge/202505 [17:03] jamespage: neutronclient fixed [17:03] zul, +1 [17:03] If I setup a firewall rule to allow ssh on a subnet, ssh will still appear open to an address outside of that subnet, yeah? The firewall rule would just deny the packets [17:09] no [17:09] as port 22 would be blocked outside that subnet === Rasmus`- is now known as Rasmus` [17:10] so running a scan should render 22 port closed when outside the subnet [17:11] Cause that's not what I'm getting when I setup ufw [17:11] Though the address is blocked [17:17] jamespage: last one today https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-savannaclient/0.4.1/+merge/202512 [17:18] zul, +1 [17:18] jamespage: thanks [17:18] zul, np === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === rbasak_ is now known as rbasak === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:47] hi [18:47] what is the email server in ubuntu server [18:47] dovecot? [18:48] If you want it to be, yeah [18:48] dovecot+postfix would work [18:48] they are hard to configure, right? [18:48] i never get make dovecot work [18:48] there I go [18:49] Email in general, is a pain in the ass. Doesn't really matter which software you choose :) [18:50] I usually use postfix and it does everything I want with dpkg-reconfigure. [18:54] there's many pieces of email; postfix serves a very different role than dovecot === lifeless1 is now known as lifeless [19:00] jamespage: cool [19:21] anyone know what software and setups I'd need to get PPA-like functionality in a private server setup? Not the whole LP thing, just the PPA functions, where I debuild -S the source, upload it to some location, the system automatically builds it, and then assuming it doesn't fail, it uploads to a debian repository? [19:27] teward: it's called soyuz, and there are not a lot of documentation, however you may want to see, https://dev.launchpad.net/HackingSoyuzIRCSession #I've not deploy it locally, so I don't know what exact steps you require to build something similar [19:28] ehhh, CBA to deal with it, I may as well just upload packages to the server manually, then manually run sbuild on them one at a time [19:28] then manually move them into a debian repo [19:29] i could always poke the launchpad devs to give me a hand but i'm not in the mood to bug them [19:29] chilicuil, i'll read that later, i'm kinda bleh from this evil snow [19:45] what is better, Maildir or mbox? [19:47] hxm: Maildir is faster for many operations and it's my definite choice; though it is far easier to rsync or scp an mbox file around from system to system or from program to program. most everything can import from mbox.. [19:48] aha, thanks [20:11] mdeslaur: (i'm on vacation today; but qemu works for me in trusty, so pls quote a bug #) [20:11] hallyn: it's stuck in proposed [20:11] I think powerpc FTBFS [20:11] zul: do you mind taking lp:~serge-hallyn/+junk/cgmanager and uploading it to the archive? [20:12] mdeslaur: oh yeah. infinity was going to look at that since he has hardware [20:15] hallyn: sure [20:16] kardan: I am trying to use preseed to automate debian installation. I like to have two partition sda1 and sda2 and install two instances of ubuntu on each partition. [20:16] zul: thanks [20:16] hallyn: thanks [20:17] sorry wrong window [20:29] stgraber: i just uploaded cgmanager btw [20:30] zul: thanks, will review in the queue now [20:31] cool [20:38] zul: can you re-upload with just the last changelog entry? the previous ones never made it to either Ubuntu or Debian, so it feels a bit odd having that in the initial upload [20:40] stgraber: sure [20:41] zul: thanks, I just rejected the existing one [20:41] hi, does anyone use Active directory for managing linux app/service accounts? [20:41] and I see the new one, perfect, reviewing that one now [20:44] i have installed roundcube via apt-get [20:44] but the verson is 0.7, I wanted to upgrade it to the latest one 0.9 [20:44] can I just download the .tar.gz file from sourceforge? [20:44] or I will mess it [20:45] nobody use Active directory for Linux user accounts?! [20:50] zul: accepted [20:50] zul, hallyn: will add it to the server packageset now and review the binaries in a minute (waiting for them to build on LP now) [21:15] hello, can someone help me with a frustrating ipv6 problem? [21:21] okeanos: what's the problem? === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [21:52] if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork", why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event"? === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away