[00:08] <teward> anyone know what software and setups I'd need to get PPA-like functionality in a private server setup?  Not the whole LP thing, just the PPA functions.
[00:09] <jrwren> teward: your own repository?
[00:09] <teward> jrwren: with the whole upload-source, auto-build, upload to repository shebang that PPAs already have
[00:09] <jrwren> teward: or do you want to be able to upload sources and have the system compile it for you like PPA does?
[00:10] <jrwren> teward: I'd love that too, if you find something please let me know :)
[09:03] <Repox> Hello. If I have made changes to iptables, what is the prefered way of saving the rules for next boot; "iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.rules " or can I just use "iptables-save"?
[09:08] <KI7MT> Repox, look into using  iptables-persistent
[12:02] <jamespage> lifeless, I appreciate that - the cherry pick I did covers 3.11 kernel as found in saucy
[12:53] <rostam> HI is anyone here familiar with the dotdee concept? thx
[13:15] <kirkland> rostam: hi, I wrote dotdee ... what are you looking for?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> kirkland, now THAT is customer service!
[13:20] <ruben231> hi guys i have linux server from US and other one is on Autralia, they are connected adn syn by simple internet line, would stablishing a VPN between them would improved.. the conenctivity of both when ti comes to lagged and slowness performance..any idea guys, i particularly used mysql database
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ruben231, VPN is for security - not speed.  I doubt that merely switching to VPN would speed things up - but I could be wrong.  If no response here, ask in #ubuntu
[13:24] <TJ-> ruben231: Adding a VPN won't improve latency; if anything it'll add a few milliseconds
[13:29] <ruben231> TJ-: ok so no difference at all for the conenctivity issue of slowness and lagged coz currentlyly i dont used anything
[13:29] <TJ-> ruben231: The only cure for those are using a better route, which is outside your control I'd guess
[13:32] <rostam> kirkland, hi thanks for getting back to me.  I am still confused on usage.  I need to modify some configuration files beloinging to other pkgs through scripting.  I am not sure yet how to do this through dotdee, Although I just find out about this pkg and I think it will do what I need, any references on this will greatly appreicated. thx
[13:32] <ruben231> my curernt latency to US server form Australia is  OK (165 ms)
[13:33] <kirkland> rostam: when you say "I", in this case, are you acting as a sysadmin on your own system, or as a Debian package maintainer?
[13:33] <kirkland> rostam: because, as I understand it, the latter would be a Debian policy violation (one package mucking with another package's configuration files)
[13:37] <rostam> kirkland,  are system will be installed as embedded system, there will be no sysadmin using puppet, chef...  We need to changes some of the files, I thought dotdee helps me not to violate the debian packing. The changes to files will be dynamic depends on the environment they are installed.
[13:46] <kirkland> rostam: I think you're fine, in that case, to use dotdee
[13:47] <kirkland> rostam: so first, a couple of (maybe obvious?) pointers...  have you read http://manpg.es/dotdee.8 and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/06/dotdee-how-to.html and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/dotdee-modern-proposal-for-improving.html
[13:47] <kirkland> rostam: in the latter, I tried to propose dotdee as being an officially blessed way of handling conffiles, but I don't think it went anywhere in Debian
[13:49] <rostam> kirkland, great thanks I will dig into the references you provided. I hope I can find you here in next couple days for more questions. Thanks
[13:49] <kirkland> rostam: I'm always here;  generally online during the workday in the USA
[13:49] <rostam> kirkland, thanks again
[14:12] <zul> jamespage:  can you push this one back into debian? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6791793/
[14:12] <jamespage> zul, 'submittodebian'
[14:12] <jamespage> try it
[14:16] <zul> jamespage:  ok done
[14:16] <jamespage> zul, it sends and email - did that work OK?
[14:16] <jamespage> should get a confirmation back
[14:16] <zul> it looks like it
[14:22] <rbasak> roaksoax: OK if I take the facter merge? Might as well do it before I look at puppet.
[14:22] <roaksoax> rbasak: go for it! :)
[14:57] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.8/+merge/202473
[14:58] <jamespage> zul, +1
[15:11] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-heatclient/0.2.6/+merge/202480
[15:12] <jamespage> zul, -1 typo
[15:12] <zul> jamespage:  updated
[15:14] <railsraider> can someone help me out with this upstart it hangs but when i just fire the start-stop-daemon from the shell it works http://pastebin.com/QtsYWUPb
[15:14] <railsraider> it hangs on start
[15:15] <jamespage> zul, +1
[15:15] <jamespage> zul, I'm assuming you will merge these btw
[15:16] <zul> jamespage:  yep
[15:27] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-troveclient/1.0.3/+merge/202483
[15:27] <jamespage> zul, +1
[15:49] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.4.2/+merge/202486
[15:51] <jamespage> zul, +1
[16:13] <germanstudent> Are there good gnuplot alternatives? (Want to know, because I have to decide which tool to study)
[16:26] <mdeslaur> hallyn: any eta for a fixed qemu package in trusty?
[16:27] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-swiftclient/1.8.0/+merge/202497
[16:28] <jamespage> zul, +1
[16:29] <zul> thanks
[16:30] <jamespage> zul, I have trusty deploying again in the lab btw
[16:30] <zul> \o/
[16:33] <zul> jamespage:  2 more ;)
[16:39] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-neutronclient/2.3.3/+merge/202505
[17:03] <zul> jamespage:  neutronclient fixed
[17:03] <jamespage> zul, +1
[17:03] <parallel21> If I setup a firewall rule to allow ssh on a subnet, ssh will still appear open to an address outside of that subnet, yeah? The firewall rule would just deny the packets
[17:09] <ikonia> no
[17:09] <ikonia> as port 22 would be blocked outside that subnet
[17:10] <parallel21> so running a scan should render 22 port closed when outside the subnet
[17:11] <parallel21> Cause that's not what I'm getting when I setup ufw
[17:11] <parallel21> Though the address is blocked
[17:17] <zul> jamespage:  last one today https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-savannaclient/0.4.1/+merge/202512
[17:18] <jamespage> zul, +1
[17:18] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[17:18] <jamespage> zul, np
[18:47] <hxm> hi
[18:47] <hxm> what is the email server in ubuntu server
[18:47] <hxm> dovecot?
[18:48] <ersi> If you want it to be, yeah
[18:48] <ersi> dovecot+postfix would work
[18:48] <hxm> they are hard to configure, right?
[18:48] <hxm> i never get make dovecot work
[18:48] <hxm> there I go
[18:49] <ersi> Email in general, is a pain in the ass. Doesn't really matter which software you choose :)
[18:50] <Mikaela> I usually use postfix and it does everything I want with dpkg-reconfigure.
[18:54] <sarnold> there's many pieces of email; postfix serves a very different role than dovecot
[19:00] <lifeless> jamespage: cool
[19:21] <teward> anyone know what software and setups I'd need to get PPA-like functionality in a private server setup?  Not the whole LP thing, just the PPA functions, where I debuild -S the source, upload it to some location, the system automatically builds it, and then assuming it doesn't fail, it uploads to a debian repository?
[19:27] <chilicuil> teward: it's called soyuz, and there are not a lot of documentation, however you may want to see, https://dev.launchpad.net/HackingSoyuzIRCSession #I've not deploy it locally, so I don't know what exact steps you require to build something similar
[19:28] <teward> ehhh, CBA to deal with it, I may as well just upload packages to the server manually, then manually run sbuild on them one at a time
[19:28] <teward> then manually move them into a debian repo
[19:29] <teward> i could always poke the launchpad devs to give me a hand but i'm not in the mood to bug them
[19:29] <teward> chilicuil, i'll read that later, i'm kinda bleh from this evil snow
[19:45] <hxm> what is better, Maildir or mbox?
[19:47] <sarnold> hxm: Maildir is faster for many operations and it's my definite choice; though it is far easier to rsync or scp an mbox file around from system to system or from program to program. most everything can import from mbox..
[19:48] <hxm> aha, thanks
[20:11] <hallyn> mdeslaur: (i'm on vacation today;  but qemu works for me in trusty, so pls quote a bug #)
[20:11] <mdeslaur> hallyn: it's stuck in proposed
[20:11] <mdeslaur> I think powerpc FTBFS
[20:11] <hallyn> zul: do you mind taking lp:~serge-hallyn/+junk/cgmanager and uploading it to the archive?
[20:12] <hallyn> mdeslaur: oh yeah.  infinity was going to look at that since he has hardware
[20:15] <zul> hallyn:  sure
[20:16] <rostam> kardan: I am trying to use preseed to automate debian installation.  I like to have two partition sda1 and sda2 and install two instances of ubuntu on each partition.
[20:16] <hallyn> zul: thanks
[20:16] <mdeslaur> hallyn: thanks
[20:17] <rostam> sorry wrong window
[20:29] <zul> stgraber:  i just uploaded cgmanager btw
[20:30] <stgraber> zul: thanks, will review in the queue now
[20:31] <zul> cool
[20:38] <stgraber> zul: can you re-upload with just the last changelog entry? the previous ones never made it to either Ubuntu or Debian, so it feels a bit odd having that in the initial upload
[20:40] <zul> stgraber:  sure
[20:41] <stgraber> zul: thanks, I just rejected the existing one
[20:41] <mallu_> hi, does anyone use Active directory for managing linux app/service accounts?
[20:41] <stgraber> and I see the new one, perfect, reviewing that one now
[20:44] <hxm> i have installed roundcube via apt-get
[20:44] <hxm> but the verson is 0.7, I wanted to upgrade it to the latest one 0.9
[20:44] <hxm> can I just download the .tar.gz file from sourceforge?
[20:44] <hxm> or I will mess it
[20:45] <mallu_> nobody use Active directory for Linux user accounts?!
[20:50] <stgraber> zul: accepted
[20:50] <stgraber> zul, hallyn: will add it to the server packageset now and review the binaries in a minute (waiting for them to build on LP now)
[21:15] <okeanos> hello, can someone help me with a frustrating ipv6 problem?
[21:21] <sk1pper> okeanos: what's the problem?
[21:52] <melter> if i run "apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork", why does "apachectl -V" show the MPM as "event"?