| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| RaxMatt | hmmm... should I got saucy, precise, or trusty on my rax desktop? | 06:15 |
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| RaxMatt | *go | 06:16 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:58 |
| Myrtti | meh | 07:13 |
| Myrtti | "morning" | 07:14 |
| knightwise | morning ! :) | 07:19 |
| MooDoo | how are you knightwise Myrtti | 07:20 |
| knightwise | doing ok. finally found the root cause of my slow wifi at home | 07:21 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: brill what was it? hardware? signal interference? | 07:21 |
| knightwise | hardware | 07:21 |
| knightwise | turns out you have to disable the N spectrum on intel wifi cards under ubuntu | 07:22 |
| knightwise | bad driver/firmware/update thingie | 07:22 |
| Myrtti | tired, stressed, wondering if I'm coming down with a flu | 07:22 |
| MooDoo | my daughter got me up at 3am :( | 07:22 |
| knightwise | funny thing is : i didn't have that problem when I had my airport extreme router. | 07:22 |
| knightwise | and with the asus i do .. Funny | 07:22 |
| knightwise | Myrtti: take good care of yourself | 07:22 |
| knightwise | hot coco and stuff | 07:23 |
| knightwise | DId a nice google search . I pasted part of my Plex media servers configuration webpage url into google | 07:23 |
| knightwise | :) Been watching stuff on random plex servers all over the world :) Funny :p | 07:23 |
| knightwise | hrmphf... flaky connecton to home server today | 07:29 |
| knightwise | even irc is slow | 07:29 |
| MooDoo | not built my home server yet, need drives/memory for it | 07:31 |
| knightwise | I have an I5 with 16 gigs of ram and about 6Tb of storage running a couple of VMs | 07:32 |
| knightwise | works pretty fine | 07:32 |
| MooDoo | I've got a dell poweredge server, but it only support 500gb drives, which will do | 07:32 |
| knightwise | storage is not that important unless you also use it as a media server | 07:33 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Hugging Day! :-D | 07:34 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: nah, looking to have a play with openstack | 07:34 |
| knightwise | Cool :) | 07:35 |
| * knightwise now needs to figure out how to disable N on his network card. | 07:35 | |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: why? because it's flaky? | 07:36 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: no , because of the known issue I had. Terrible wifi speeds, dropped TCP packets .. The works | 07:37 |
| JamesTait | knightwise, is this the Intel card with those problems? | 07:38 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: if it's intel, /sys/modules/iwlwifi/11n_disable (or something) -- just "echo 1" into it. And for after a reboot, put a "local.conf" in /etc/modprobe.d/ with "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" (or whatever the file in /sys/modules is called) | 07:39 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: but 11G is a lot worse than 11N for performance, consider upgrading anyway :) | 07:39 |
| JamesTait | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924099 | 07:39 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 924099 in linux (Ubuntu) "8086:4236 iwlagn kernel module must disable n-support to work with Intel 5300 wireless card" [Medium,Expired] | 07:40 |
| JamesTait | Actually, MartijnVdS got the more recent version, I think. | 07:41 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah, and in iwlwifi the problem *should* be fixed, afaik | 07:44 |
| MartijnVdS | ah: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2134937 | 07:45 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: JamesTait : I thikn its an intel card | 08:07 |
| knightwise | I think there is a command that lets you check right ? | 08:08 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: read the kernel log, it'll tell you. Also, lsmod. | 08:08 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: also, lspci :) | 08:09 |
| knightwise | I found this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/119578/how-to-fix-slow-wireless-on-machines-with-intel-wireless-cards | 08:09 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: like I said.. use the 11n_disable module parameter | 08:10 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: that's what that page also suggests | 08:10 |
| knightwise | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4) | 08:10 |
| MartijnVdS | yes, and Centrino network adapters are know to flake out with some brands of router | 08:11 |
| knightwise | Gonna give it a try. | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | *cough*Linksys*cough* | 08:11 |
| knightwise | Asus | 08:11 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: Asus also use Broadcom chips, like Linksys | 08:11 |
| * MartijnVdS only buys TP-Link these days. Yay atheros. | 08:11 | |
| MartijnVdS | (also, openwrt ;)) | 08:11 |
| knightwise | Error: Module iwlwifi is in use by: iwldvm | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: so rmmod that as well | 08:12 |
| knightwise | ? | 08:12 |
| knightwise | i'm afraid you lost me there | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: rmmod iwldvm | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | then rmmod iwlwifi | 08:12 |
| knightwise | ok, followed the rest of the tutorial | 08:15 |
| MartijnVdS | you should see more stability now | 08:15 |
| knightwise | This command gave me an empty file though gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-disable11n.conf | 08:15 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: yes, because you're creating it | 08:15 |
| knightwise | so i just pasted the line in there | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | and putting that one line in there | 08:16 |
| knightwise | gonna reboot the machine now | 08:16 |
| knightwise | ( The machine is at home , I'm accessing it vai SSH ) | 08:16 |
| knightwise | but I just noticed that my network traffic at home is getting a lot faster now that i'm rebooting the laptop | 08:17 |
| knightwise | so it seems it is sending out quite a bit of network crap | 08:17 |
| knightwise | thanx again for your help in this guys | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: maybe it's compromised and spamming? Bittorrenting? | 08:17 |
| knightwise | Nope, just did a clean nuke and pave | 08:17 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe the NSA installed some custom firmware that does it for you ;) | 08:18 |
| MooDoo | will you guys shush i'm trying to snoop knightwise's lan | 08:18 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: that would be tax dollars wasted :p | 08:19 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 08:19 |
| knightwise | MooDoo: Find the my little porny vids yet ? | 08:19 |
| MartijnVdS | or the Belgian equivalent | 08:19 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: yes and i'm quite impressed, you're bendy :D | 08:19 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:19 |
| MartijnVdS | Pony videos? knightwise = brony? ;) | 08:19 |
| knightwise | NOOOOOO | 08:20 |
| * knightwise runs away every time he sees furries | 08:20 | |
| knightwise | (and pony's) | 08:20 |
| MartijnVdS | knightwise: don't be ashamed, lots of adult men are bronies | 08:20 |
| MooDoo | WTF is a bronies? | 08:21 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: http://whatisabrony.com/ | 08:21 |
| MooDoo | holy sh*t balls | 08:22 |
| knightwise | True ;) there are some cool MLP mods out there | 08:22 |
| knightwise | Terminator-pony, borg-pony etc | 08:22 |
| MooDoo | get out, just get out | 08:22 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: learn something new every day ;) | 08:22 |
| ali1234 | go to bronycon | 08:22 |
| * knightwise is listening to some chilly tunes on cmd.fm | 08:23 | |
| knightwise | nice geeky streaming radio that looks like a command line interface :) | 08:27 |
| directhex | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/648817378243644036/ | 08:35 |
| Myrtti | directhex: need any torrent seeders? | 08:36 |
| knightwise | Mobaxterm is a great replacement for Putty for those of you on Windows btw | 08:37 |
| knightwise | Xforwarding, Socks Tunnel, SFTP , all in one :) | 08:38 |
| Myrtti | does it support URL clicking? | 08:38 |
| knightwise | In a chatrroom ? | 08:38 |
| knightwise | erm .. no i don't think so | 08:39 |
| knightwise | bugger | 08:39 |
| Myrtti | right, can't recommend to irssi/weechat heavy users then | 08:40 |
| Myrtti | oh well | 08:40 |
| Myrtti | I haven't kept up to nutty / puttytray development so maybe they're still alright | 08:40 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:40 |
| directhex | Myrtti, i don't know what's coming next for Ye Olde SteamOSe - much of its raison d'etre is gone with valve's merging in of changes | 08:42 |
| Myrtti | whee | 08:42 |
| knightwise | MrGarlic: Weechat ? | 08:55 |
| Myrtti | !info weechat | 08:58 |
| lubotu3 | weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-2 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB | 08:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: weechat? sounds like the thing you do while.. doing your business at the urinals | 09:00 |
| Myrtti | I didn't name it, don't blame mee | 09:01 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:02 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon | 09:04 |
| ali1234 | directhex: why haven't they hired you yet? | 09:04 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 09:04 |
| MooDoo | someone want to hire me, I make good tea :D | 09:12 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: hmmm tea | 09:13 |
| brobostigon | coffee :) | 09:13 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: heathen! | 09:13 |
| brobostigon | heh :( | 09:14 |
| MartijnVdS | :P | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | need to find a new strap for my pebble, the rubber strap isnt ideal. | 09:15 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: 24k a year to make you tea and you're on ;) | 09:17 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: only if you do the dishes too 8-) | 09:18 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: steady on there | 09:18 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | morning | 09:38 |
| Laney | cold this morning | 09:41 |
| knightwise | hey Laney | 09:42 |
| knightwise | good morning :) | 09:42 |
| Laney | ey up | 09:42 |
| knightwise | it is .. and it is supposed to be cold :) | 09:42 |
| foobarry | quite rfreshing | 09:42 |
| knightwise | high time it got chilly . Weather has been so fracked up , my neighbours peacocks are screaming in the morning. | 09:43 |
| knightwise | normally they dont do that untill march | 09:43 |
| ali1234 | "AAAAAAARGH" - a peacock, yesterday | 09:44 |
| Laney | yeah, saw some plant shoots the other day that shouldn't have happened for a couple of months | 09:45 |
| Laney | bet these frosts have done them in | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | surprised it's sunny here i am, was expecting rain. | 09:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Laney: you've had frost then? We haven't even had that.. | 09:46 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: was quite thick yesterday not so much this morning | 09:47 |
| bigcalm | directhex: what's next in store for ye old Ye Olde SteamOSe? | 09:52 |
| MartijnVdS | retro gaming? 8-) | 09:53 |
| * MartijnVdS actually fired up an old PS/2 (386DX!) this weekend. And it still worked | 09:53 | |
| directhex | bigcalm, excellent question. i don't really know - much of its reason to exist is gone now | 09:54 |
| directhex | radical change in scope? hmph | 09:54 |
| bigcalm | What features didn't they include? | 09:55 |
| directhex | i haven't had a chance to analyse yet | 09:55 |
| directhex | am on the clock | 09:55 |
| bigcalm | Fair enough :) | 09:56 |
| BigRedS | Argh. Has anyone here worked out how to get an SMTP server delisted as a spam-sender by google? | 10:31 |
| MartijnVdS | by not sending spam? | 10:32 |
| BigRedS | yeah we stopped doing that three days ago | 10:32 |
| MartijnVdS | * don't be on "residential IP space" | 10:32 |
| BigRedS | and everyone else delisted us about two and a half days ago | 10:32 |
| BigRedS | nah, it's a proper smtp server | 10:32 |
| MartijnVdS | * have your host name + reverse mapping correctly (so foo.com -> 1.2.3.4 AND 4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa -> foo.com) | 10:32 |
| BigRedS | yep | 10:32 |
| BigRedS | it's a shared mailserver, and at least some of the domains are spfed up | 10:33 |
| BigRedS | but everyone else at least has a form where you can fess up and say "but we've fixed it, take our mail?". It took MS about 15 minutes... | 10:34 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: apparently, Google's 5xx rejection code contains an URL | 10:34 |
| * popey bites the bullet and orders 16GB for his X220 | 10:34 | |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126 | 10:35 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: \o/ 16G | 10:35 |
| === roht is now known as wadzi | ||
| MooDoo | popey: where you get that from, I've just had a look at crucial and their system says it'll only hold 8gb, might be wrong - http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Thinkpad%20X220&Cat=RAM | 10:37 |
| BigRedS | MartijnVdS: yeah, that one ends with suggestions on how to form marketing emails | 10:37 |
| popey | its wrong | 10:37 |
| MooDoo | obviously if you purchased 16gb lo | 10:37 |
| popey | i canvassed the internets first | 10:37 |
| BigRedS | I did find a form for bulk senders to apply for some sort of permission which I've filled in, but it's very much "I send lots of mail" and not "I run this mailserver" | 10:37 |
| MooDoo | ah it officially supports 8gb, but people have been putting in 2x8gb chips into the 2 slots. | 10:39 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:58 |
| bigcalm | Morning davmor2 | 10:59 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 11:00 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo, bigcalm: how are you both? | 11:00 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: experiencing a very long day | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I'm fab :) | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: must be a long day if you are experiencing it this early on :) | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: excellent :) | 11:02 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: my spy camera, I mean laptop, arrives tomorrow | 11:03 |
| bigcalm | I've been wearing my headphones since 9am and yet haven't listened to any music yet. Forgetting they are there and getting engrossed in my work... | 11:07 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: comfy then | 11:10 |
| foobarry | my ones hurt the top of my head :( | 11:10 |
| foobarry | need more cushion | 11:10 |
| bigcalm | MooDoo: this headset is surprisingly so, more so than my cans which are meant to be higher quality | 11:11 |
| MooDoo | I borrow my sons over the ear ones, but they are terrible and leave me ear sore after about 10 min | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | s | 11:14 |
| Seeker` | I wish I could get another pair of sennheiser HD457s | 11:17 |
| bigcalm | That's what my cans do as well as leaving a dent in my hair where the connecting band sits | 11:17 |
| popey | I am using bluetooth headphones | 11:17 |
| popey | wired | 11:17 |
| popey | because bluetooth sucks | 11:18 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 11:19 |
| MartijnVdS | bluetooth is great. To connect my phone to my car stereo (for navigation & music) | 11:19 |
| popey | it keeps timing out | 11:20 |
| popey | dont know if its the cans or ubuntu | 11:20 |
| Seeker` | popey: try them on your mac? | 11:20 |
| * MartijnVdS wonders how to work the NFC bit in his laptop | 11:26 | |
| MartijnVdS | apparently, a driver has been loaded. | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | popey: desktop or phone or both? | 11:26 |
| popey | hah | 11:26 |
| popey | desktop | 11:26 |
| popey | phone doesn't work at all | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | popey: I have a feeling it is ubuntu I tried my headset on android and it works fine | 11:27 |
| popey | yeah | 11:27 |
| SengSoft | I have become attached to the Synapse App that I installed last night , successfully , in Ubuntu-Mate_Desktop 13.10 , https://twitter.com/Noobslab/status/169558718122426368 . : Nothing else to say ..no-Comeback . Off to Smithfields .. Applets FTW ! . | 11:28 |
| SengSoft | https://imgur.com/AqHbiTm | 11:28 |
| * Seeker` can't find any good headphones :( | 11:28 | |
| bigcalm | Bloomin spammers | 11:29 |
| bigcalm | Is it Wednesday yet? | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: NO! | 11:32 |
| foobarry | nicest usb creator i've found is windows only :( | 11:34 |
| foobarry | called rufus | 11:34 |
| YaManicKill | Is it friday? | 11:34 |
| YaManicKill | foobarry: dd? :-P | 11:34 |
| popey | yeah, i use dd | 11:34 |
| foobarry | dd doesn't work for all isos | 11:35 |
| foobarry | ...does it? | 11:35 |
| BigRedS | I'm one of those people whose never had a problem with unetbootin :) | 11:35 |
| popey | which ones dont work? | 11:35 |
| foobarry | this is for a esxi installer iso | 11:35 |
| YaManicKill | I've not had one not work for a long time. | 11:35 |
| BigRedS | Don't the ISOs have to be crafted with that in mind? or does USB boot Just Work with an iso9660 image? | 11:36 |
| foobarry | if dd worked, then why did vmware write this page ? https://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-50/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.vsphere.install.doc_50%2FGUID-33C3E7D5-20D0-4F84-B2E3-5CD33D32EAA8.html | 11:36 |
| YaManicKill | There was a nice one that ran on ubuntu that I tried a while ago. Weird English translations, as it was French, but it worked. | 11:36 |
| popey | gosh thats complicated | 11:36 |
| directhex | the ISO needs to be crafted with that in mind | 11:37 |
| BigRedS | VMWare seem to have put some effort in to making that not-straightforward | 11:37 |
| directhex | basically you stick an MBR boot sector in the first few bytes of the ISO9660 image, in a space which is basically padding | 11:37 |
| directhex | you only need 432 bytes for a boot sector | 11:37 |
| BigRedS | yeah, that's the sort of thing I thought was going on | 11:37 |
| YaManicKill | Ah, multisystem. http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ | 11:38 |
| YaManicKill | That's the one I used for a while. | 11:38 |
| YaManicKill | Lets you stick multiple isos on and not had any issues with anything. | 11:38 |
| directhex | there are basically 4 different ways to boot: BIOS from CD, BIOS from USB, UEFI from CD, UEFI from USB. you need 4 boot loaders - one for each | 11:39 |
| directhex | UEFI from CD: you create a tiny FAT32 partition with a boot loader EFI application inside, and embed it in an el torito floppy record | 11:40 |
| directhex | UEFI from USB: just make sure the first partition on your USB stick is FAT32, and contains an EFI boot loader | 11:40 |
| directhex | BIOS from CD: 432 byte boot sector in an el torito floppy record | 11:40 |
| directhex | BIOS from USB: 432 bytes at the start of the drive, with a small offset | 11:40 |
| directhex | the trick is making a .iso which is all 4 of these things at once | 11:41 |
| directhex | this also ignores macs, which expect HFS+ | 11:41 |
| DJones | C4RR3: Just £16.99 a month | 11:42 |
| DJones | Phone cost Free | 11:42 |
| DJones | Grr | 11:42 |
| DJones | Mis-paste | 11:42 |
| BigRedS | Miss Paste? Sounds lovely | 11:44 |
| azamat | hi @all . On my ubuntu 13.10, sound goes to maximum sometimes. Why is that? | 12:11 |
| bigcalm | Sometimes my workstation boots with audio muted. One of those things (tm) | 12:18 |
| YaManicKill | Yeah, me too. | 12:19 |
| MooDoo | I can catch the mouse roller wheel and sometimes that takes it to maximum | 12:19 |
| bigcalm | I wish that devices with wifi all came with a standard port to attach an external aerial | 12:23 |
| bigcalm | Ran out of ethernet ports on my router in my office so I'm not using the wifi on my workstation | 12:24 |
| Dave2 | was "not" meant to be "now"? | 12:24 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 12:24 |
| bigcalm | The workstation in under my desk and about 4 feet from the wifi router - yet my workstation isn't showing a stong signal | 12:25 |
| bigcalm | Plus, I get about 3MB/s max when transferring between server and workstation :( | 12:25 |
| Dave2 | Might I suggest buying a switch | 12:25 |
| bigcalm | s/in/is | 12:25 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: I want this one but don't have the money: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-Wireless-N-Port-Gigabit-Firewall/dp/B005UGRIIG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=LXT6MFP2WUWA&coliid=I3M4BGF1YGV466 | 12:26 |
| bigcalm | To replace the wifi router I am using | 12:26 |
| bigcalm | Really need to keep down the number of mains sockets in use | 12:26 |
| ormiret | I'm intrigued; why do you care how many sockets are in use? | 12:28 |
| Dave2 | that's... a bit pricy | 12:28 |
| bigcalm | ormiret: because one _can_ have too many | 12:28 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: yep, a cheaper alternative would be nice :) | 12:28 |
| Dave2 | Cheaper alternative: a switch and a power brick thing | 12:28 |
| bigcalm | *grumble* | 12:29 |
| bigcalm | I used to have a switch until I gave it away on freecycle | 12:29 |
| bigcalm | Was only 10/100 though | 12:30 |
| Dave2 | you can buy a switch for £hardlyanything | 12:30 |
| Dave2 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-SG1005D-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Desktop/dp/B000N99BBC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1390307440&sr=8-2&keywords=tp-link+switch £12.48 | 12:30 |
| MartijnVdS | I have one of those in white I think | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | works great | 12:31 |
| Dave2 | Instant Order Update for Dave Wickham. You purchased this item on 20 Nov 2011. View this order. | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | 8-) | 12:32 |
| diplo | I have one of those TP Link ones as well, is good | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | I guess | 12:32 |
| Dave2 | I should buy the 8 port one though, because I'm running out of sockets and have run out of network ports. | 12:32 |
| Dave2 | This is a switch that's attached to my router. | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | I should build some shelves to put the server and other bits on. My desk it getting messy | 12:32 |
| * MartijnVdS ponders http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-SG1016DE-16-Port-Gigabit-Management/dp/B00DQ4ED7S | 12:34 | |
| Dave2 | hah | 12:35 |
| Dave2 | My understanding is that the cheap TP-Link switches have the same chipset as that one, and so are effectively dumb managed switches | 12:35 |
| Dave2 | (May be wrong on that) | 12:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Dave2: except the cheaper ones don't have an IP to talk to for management | 12:36 |
| Dave2 | Hence the dumb bit | 12:36 |
| bigcalm | My router is running openwrt, so I don't really need a managed switch | 12:37 |
| Dave2 | Those two statements don't really follow on from one another | 12:37 |
| bigcalm | Ta for the advice, I might order an 8 port plastic one | 12:37 |
| bigcalm | They don't? | 12:37 |
| MartijnVdS | Dave2: well, the ethernet ports built into a router like that could be used like managed switch ports | 12:37 |
| bigcalm | For my use, I just need extra ports. So unmanaged seems to make sense? | 12:38 |
| Dave2 | No; your router has a managed switch built in, but if you did want to have vlan tagging, then you would lose the ability to have a trunked port going to the switch with different vlan tagging going on there. | 12:38 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: usually, yes. | 12:38 |
| Dave2 | Of course, you probably don't actually care about any of that | 12:38 |
| MartijnVdS | though managed switches can be higher throughput (paradoxically) | 12:38 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: I see and you are correct in this instance :) | 12:38 |
| bigcalm | Any advantage of getting a metal one rather than plastic? | 12:40 |
| Dave2 | I'm not sure what the other differences are. | 12:40 |
| Dave2 | Metal is nicer. | 12:40 |
| bigcalm | This is true | 12:40 |
| MartijnVdS | you could connect the metal case to ground, I suppose | 12:40 |
| * bigcalm measures his office for putting up shelves | 12:42 | |
| bigcalm | Can't decide if I want to put shelves on the whole of the wall behind my desk or to leave space for art work | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: behind your desk as in "in front of you when using the desk" or "behind you when using it" | 13:02 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: in front of me when I'm using it | 13:03 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: then use it for art. Put the shelves behind you | 13:04 |
| * MartijnVdS wishes he'd done that | 13:04 | |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: not enough room behind me. This is the smallest bedroom in the house and only really fits my desk and my chair | 13:04 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/414351141859000322 | 13:05 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: ah. hmm | 13:05 |
| bigcalm | Time for a new photo | 13:06 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/425616683739262976/photo/1 | 13:11 |
| diplo | bigcalm: Corner shelves above the printer ? | 13:13 |
| bigcalm | diplo: I was wondering about using the whole of the left hand wall for shelves and include the corner | 13:14 |
| bigcalm | So many choices | 13:14 |
| bigcalm | In the very bottom left of the photo you can see the door handle of the open door | 13:15 |
| RaxMatt | hullo | 13:17 |
| popey | hi | 13:18 |
| RaxMatt | how are we all today? | 13:19 |
| popey | meh | 13:19 |
| RaxMatt | oh | 13:19 |
| RaxMatt | something happened? | 13:20 |
| MartijnVdS | it's a grey day outside here | 13:20 |
| MooDoo | i think everyone is having one of those dayas todya | 13:20 |
| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/archives/date-taken/2014/01/21/ greetings from Finland | 13:21 |
| RaxMatt | it was extremely foggy here at raxtowers this morning | 13:21 |
| foobarry | MooDoo: i certainly am having one of those days | 13:21 |
| MooDoo | foobarry: yeah me to, but mine is coz i'm tired 3 hours of sleep last night | 13:22 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: been out partying? | 13:23 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: no little one came into the bedroom at 3am wide awake | 13:23 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: ah, so someone else was out partying ;) | 13:24 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: if she was she's in trouble. then again who knows what 2 year olds get up to while we're asleep ;) | 13:24 |
| MartijnVdS | :) | 13:25 |
| popey | yay, my ram is coming via DPD | 13:32 |
| foobarry | if my boy doesn't wake me up in the night he gets to put marbles in his reward jar | 13:32 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: already? that's quick! | 13:32 |
| foobarry | so the laptop will break 1 week from now? | 13:33 |
| foobarry | or 1 day after support runs out | 13:33 |
| popey | its got a year or so support left | 13:45 |
| bigcalm | What was the bz2 method that people suggested I used for compressing a 4.2GB mysql dump? | 13:45 |
| YaManicKill | rm | 13:46 |
| YaManicKill | that's the most efficient compression I know :-P | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: you know when you open a browser and in the middle is this google text box :P were you after the compression format or the command to do it? | 13:47 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: I use `tar jcvf foo.tar.bz2 foo`. Somebody suggested a better method | 13:48 |
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| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: there's create_dump_on_stdout_somehow | bzip2 -9 > dump.bz2 | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: if you want moar compression, try xz | 13:50 |
| bigcalm | I have the dump now. Just want to compress it for xfer to my server | 13:51 |
| MartijnVdS | xz -9 file -- why tar if it's one file? | 13:52 |
| bigcalm | I normally use zxvf for one handed quickness but thought that bz2 was meant to be better for some reason | 13:52 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: muscle memory :) | 13:52 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: tar is smart with extensions now I think -- the "j" or "z" don't matter anymore -- at least when extracting | 13:52 |
| bigcalm | Oh, xz is a utility. I'll give it a go :) | 13:53 |
| MartijnVdS | gz < bz2 < xz (compression-ratio wise, usually) | 13:53 |
| MartijnVdS | (some files might gzip better or bzip better, but most will xz the best) | 13:53 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: so for the next person to beat xzip they will need to do zzip but then it just sounds like your machine is sleeping when you run the command zz | 13:55 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: well they could do yzip instead | 13:55 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: and/or skip to greek letters | 13:55 |
| MartijnVdS | µzip sounds nice and micro :) | 13:55 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: yeah but then it sounds like a question | 13:55 |
| davmor2 | why zip | 13:56 |
| * MartijnVdS used "arj" last week | 13:56 | |
| MartijnVdS | well, unarj | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS, bigcalm: I quite like 7zips archive it is pretty compact | 13:56 |
| bigcalm | I'm looking for speed more than compression I guess | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: 7zip uses lzma, same as xz, but xz actually has a unixy file format ;) | 13:56 |
| bigcalm | I'll give xz a go | 13:57 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: 7zip is fast so I assume that xz should be too | 13:57 |
| MartijnVdS | 7zip decompression is fast | 13:58 |
| MartijnVdS | compression isn't really | 13:58 |
| MartijnVdS | if you want fast, try gzip -1 ;) | 13:58 |
| bigcalm | I do need to actually compress the file as well :P | 13:59 |
| bigcalm | Ah, lunch is ready :) | 14:00 |
| foobarry | "3 billion devices run java" | 14:04 |
| foobarry | i wonder how many are up to date | 14:04 |
| Seeker` | 3 | 14:05 |
| directhex | javacard. | 14:08 |
| directhex | runs on SIM cards | 14:08 |
| MartijnVdS | isn't that a very special very stripped-down thing though | 14:09 |
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| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g | ||
| bigcalm | 4.1GB MySQL dump -> xz for 9m43.448s -> 165MB .xz file | 15:22 |
| foobarry | shhh | 15:22 |
| bigcalm | Sorry, didn't mean to wake you | 15:23 |
| YaManicKill | That amused me more than it probably should... | 15:26 |
| bigcalm | ETA (from pv) to import the database is 1 hour | 15:28 |
| * bigcalm does some other stuff | 15:29 | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| davmor2 | bigcalm: that sounds a bit more portable | 15:52 |
| bigcalm | Can anybody recommend some very simple software for chopping section out of an mp3? | 16:12 |
| Myrtti | a specific section or just splitting it? | 16:13 |
| foobarry | more simple than audacity? | 16:13 |
| bigcalm | A specific section | 16:13 |
| bigcalm | foobarry: I currently know of no software, so any suggestions would be good | 16:13 |
| Myrtti | audacity is good | 16:13 |
| bigcalm | Ta, I'll give it a go | 16:13 |
| foobarry | ffmpeg can cut sections too | 16:14 |
| bigcalm | Simple implying GUI ;) | 16:14 |
| foobarry | i refer you to prevous answer :) | 16:14 |
| Myrtti | ooer http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/20207/why-are-airline-passengers-asked-to-lift-up-window-shades-during-takeoff-and-lan?utm_source=google&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=travel-promotion&utm_content=travel-promo-windows-google | 16:16 |
| foobarry | got a summary? | 16:16 |
| Myrtti | so that there's more eyes to see if there's problems and the passangers eyesight is acclimatized to the outside lighting if there's a need to evacuate | 16:18 |
| Myrtti | same reason why during takeoff and landing in the dark the lights are turned off | 16:18 |
| foobarry | so for crashy reasons | 16:19 |
| Myrtti | yeah - apparently european officials require that the plane needs to be able to be evacuated in 90sec | 16:19 |
| bigcalm | My db import finally finished: 4.08GB 0:40:35 [1.72MB/s] | 16:19 |
| foobarry | i was a fire marshall once, only to find out when the fire drill was | 16:20 |
| foobarry | get the lift down 26 flights before you have to walk | 16:20 |
| Myrtti | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1uzne_a380-emergency-evacuation-test_tech | 16:20 |
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| bigcalm | Love the comment "That was really funny! anyone want to chat with a cutie like me^^? :))" | 16:26 |
| diddledan__ | bigcalm: yeah, I would. you cute thing you. | 16:26 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 16:27 |
| diddledan__ | :-p | 16:27 |
| * foobarry closes irc for a bit | 16:27 | |
| diddledan__ | foobarry: was it _that_ offensive that I might think bigcalm is cute? :-o | 16:28 |
| foobarry | umm | 16:29 |
| * foobarry goes away | 16:29 | |
| diddledan__ | lol | 16:29 |
| diddledan__ | I think that's a yes then | 16:29 |
| foobarry | i'm not used to seeing the word cutie on irc | 16:30 |
| diddledan__ | true, let's tru QT | 16:30 |
| diddledan__ | try* | 16:30 |
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| diddledan__ | ubuntu phone ftw | 16:30 |
| popey | \o/ | 16:31 |
| bigcalm | One of the advantages of recording all sky calls is getting rather odd snippets like this one: http://discworld.cuth.eu/dump/yelling.mp3 | 16:33 |
| Dave2 | SKY CALLS | 16:34 |
| bigcalm | skype | 16:34 |
| Dave2 | Heavenly conversations | 16:34 |
| firefox | Hello, I have a question about my computer. It was given to me by a friend and she told me the password but it will not take it anymore and i cannot do anything but basic stuff. No administration stuff. Is there any way to override the password | 16:34 |
| directhex | firefox, ubuntu computer? | 16:35 |
| firefox | yes | 16:35 |
| diddledan__ | firefox: you need to reboot into single user mode and replace the password using `passwd` utility. | 16:35 |
| diddledan__ | either that or do some dohickery in the live dvd | 16:36 |
| firefox | ok thanks | 16:36 |
| firefox | i will try it | 16:36 |
| diddledan__ | that might be easier but needs another pc available to burn the dvd | 16:36 |
| diddledan__ | I hate that grub is so difficult to get to appear with quiet boot - I've still not found a sure-fire way of getting the menu up | 16:37 |
| directhex | ask it nicely! | 16:37 |
| foobarry | left shift key? | 16:38 |
| diddledan__ | "computer... oh computer..."; "scotty, try this"; "oh a keyboard, how quaint" | 16:38 |
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| popey | AlanBell: http://designspark.com/eng/blog/day-one-with-parallella | 17:54 |
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| AlanBell | popey: nice, I am looking forward to it turning up | 18:59 |
| * MartijnVdS has soup! | 19:01 | |
| DJones | bigcalm: You know that laptop you ordered? Has it arrived yet, or are you going to cancel and order one of these http://www.maximumpc.com/dell_reaffirms_commitment_project_sputnik_launches_new_ubuntu_laptop_developers2013 | 20:13 |
| popey | thats the touch screen one? I do like the look of them | 20:25 |
| MartijnVdS | if they're like the XPS12, they're great | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | i don't understand how they can put an i7 in a 13" and not have it melt a hole through the floor into the core of the earth | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | china syndrome style... | 20:39 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: Magic | 20:40 |
| diddledan__ | thems look sleek | 20:41 |
| diddledan__ | for anyone looking seriously at them: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd | 20:45 |
| bigcalm | DJones: it's due to arrive tomorrow | 20:54 |
| bigcalm | Though the order tracking page says that it is still in Cina | 20:54 |
| foobarry | curse of the big clam | 20:54 |
| foobarry | in other news http://lifehacker.com/the-most-and-least-reliable-hard-drive-brands-1505797966 | 20:54 |
| MartijnVdS | So me not buying seagate is a good decision | 20:55 |
| directhex | no no no they used GREENS? | 20:56 |
| directhex | are they freaking mentally ill? | 20:56 |
| foobarry | any bad seagate ones are probably maxtor in their genes | 20:57 |
| foobarry | annual failure rate of one specific piece of kit is running around 15% so far, and still 3 months left | 20:58 |
| JanC | only 8 GiB of RAM? | 20:59 |
| * popey will be looking out for DPD guy for his 16GB RAM! :D | 21:02 | |
| JanC | ali1234: that's a massively underclocked i7, remember? | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | yeah i suspected something like that | 21:03 |
| JanC | U series | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | popey: you are going to get your ram before I get my laptop. Slightly miffed about that for some reason | 21:04 |
| popey | hah | 21:04 |
| bigcalm | Wifey has gone to a friend's place for a wee drink. Which means I'll be picking her up later. Which means I'm off the sauce tonight | 21:54 |
| * bigcalm twiddles thumbs | 21:54 | |
| bigcalm | Sod it, I'll fix some broken unit tests | 21:58 |
| moreati | bigcalm: your spy cam arrived yet? | 22:11 |
| bigcalm | moreati: order tracking page says tomorrow. Then again, it also says that it's still in China | 22:13 |
| bigcalm | moreati: I was hoping to bring it to the LUG | 22:13 |
| Scratman | Greetings all | 22:28 |
| Scratman | I have an issue with my machine, if I type http://127.0.0.1:8081 into my browser, my browser advises that it is unable to connect, how can I resolve this? | 22:29 |
| directhex | um... why do you expect something to reply on port 8081? | 22:30 |
| Scratman | directhex I'm following a tutorial to stream my webcam over my network, link http://cjjulius.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/creating-a-simple-linux-webcam-server/ | 22:30 |
| directhex | lsof -i :8081 | 22:31 |
| Scratman | copy and paste to terminal? | 22:32 |
| directhex | yes | 22:32 |
| Scratman | Done | 22:33 |
| Scratman | Leaves me back at the default prompt scratman@scratman:~$ | 22:34 |
| Scratman | Still unable to connect at http://127.0.0.1:8081/ | 22:34 |
| directhex | lsof would tell you which apps are running and listening on port 8081 | 22:35 |
| directhex | did it report anything? | 22:35 |
| Scratman | One moment | 22:35 |
| Scratman | Nothing | 22:36 |
| bigcalm | Did running motion do anything? | 22:36 |
| Scratman | Just restarted the process, it's running, but lsof -i still reports nothing | 22:36 |
| directhex | ok, so you aren't running anything which would be listening to you on port 8081 | 22:36 |
| directhex | Scratman, which process is the motion process? you said it's running, do you know the PID? | 22:37 |
| bigcalm | px aux | grep motion | 22:37 |
| Scratman | px: command not found | 22:38 |
| bigcalm | Oops | 22:38 |
| bigcalm | ps | 22:38 |
| bigcalm | Slip of the finger | 22:38 |
| bigcalm | ps aux | grep motion | 22:38 |
| Scratman | Motion ID 8051 | 22:38 |
| Scratman | in motion.conf under Live Webcam Server it states:- webcam_port 8081 | 22:40 |
| Scratman | have I done something stupid, or is this confusing? | 22:41 |
| Scratman | scratman 8051 12.6 0.3 46880 13656 ? Sl 22:35 0:50 motion | 22:43 |
| Scratman | scratman 9386 0.0 0.0 4392 828 pts/3 S+ 22:42 0:00 grep --color=auto motion | 22:43 |
| directhex | there is definitely a motion process with PID 8051 | 22:44 |
| Scratman | ps aux | grep motion returned 2 lines, first was : scratman 8051 12.6 0.3 46880 13656 ? Sl 22:35 0:50 motion | 22:45 |
| directhex | lsof -iPn | grep 8051 | 22:45 |
| Scratman | lsof: unknown protocol name (Pn) in: -i Pn | 22:46 |
| directhex | grr | 22:49 |
| directhex | -i -P -n | 22:50 |
| Scratman | lsof -i -P -n ? | 22:50 |
| diddledan__ | sudo netstat -anp might help, also | 22:52 |
| Scratman | directhex what am I looking for? | 22:53 |
| Scratman | diddledan-- What am I looking for? | 22:53 |
| directhex | Scratman, evidence of the motion process actually listening on *any* port | 22:54 |
| diddledan__ | Scratman: your motion process - if it's there then it'll tell you what port it's listening on | 22:54 |
| diddledan__ | you _could_ pass the output through grep | 22:54 |
| Scratman | Motion isn't listed in either result..... | 22:55 |
| diddledan__ | then it hasn't opened aport at all | 22:55 |
| Scratman | Well, that would explain why firefox doesn't find it.... | 22:56 |
| Scratman | Now I need to work out how to make it open a port. | 22:57 |
| Scratman | I don't understand why it's not opening a port..... | 23:05 |
| Scratman | and to be honest, I'm too tired to work it out tonight | 23:07 |
| Scratman | Thanks for the help guys, I'll have a think, check the man page tomorrow, and see how I get on | 23:07 |
| Scratman | gOODBYE | 23:11 |
| Scratman | Sorry, caps lock. Goodbye. | 23:11 |
| diddledan | yey for ip6 | 23:35 |
| daftykins | O_O | 23:35 |
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