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| wrst | jshanks24: hey! | 19:42 |
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| wrst | how are you doing? | 19:42 |
| jshanks24 | I am doing good | 19:43 |
| jshanks24 | wbu? | 19:43 |
| wrst | btw loks like you are doing seem neet things as far as linux evangelism is concerned | 19:43 |
| jshanks24 | thanks. I am actually trying to provide help to new linux users but I thought I would try getting converts too on the side | 19:45 |
| wrst | new user support especially for the more non-windows power user types is pretty bad it seems | 19:49 |
| jshanks24 | yeah | 19:51 |
| wrst | and especially for ubuntu since there isn't really a great choice for straight up documentation | 19:52 |
| wrst | and of course that's the distro you send new users to | 19:52 |
| jshanks24 | The documentation is better on Ubuntu than others I have found but the problem is it isnt organized in an effective way. | 19:53 |
| wrst | I mainly use arch and its documentation is very good for the most part, but it gives just a cli way of doing things and that drastically simplifies documentation | 19:55 |
| jshanks24 | I do a lot of switching but recently I have been using Ubuntu simply bc of the fact that I need to know it inside and out in order to write tutorials on it | 19:56 |
| wrst | yeah and ubuntu is a good distro its what I install for people but I prefer gnome and well ubuntu is not a good gnome distro now | 19:57 |
| jshanks24 | I used Fedora for a long time bc I knew it fairily well but the updates can break it so fast it isnt even funny. | 19:57 |
| wrst | yeah I have tried it, its just not my thing | 19:58 |
| wrst | I really like a rolling distro | 19:58 |
| jshanks24 | wasnt mine either but it was what I had to use in school | 19:58 |
| wrst | actually was using an install of it for a whle recently then all the sudden no booting | 19:59 |
| wrst | update breakage have no clue why and wasn't really worth the effort of finding out | 19:59 |
| jshanks24 | it is red hat's beta or even alpha just to see what works before they put it into red hat as stable | 20:00 |
| jshanks24 | ever tried gnobuntu? | 20:00 |
| wrst | yes but its always a version behind and with them modding so many gtk pacakges not to mention no systemd it gets more and more a struggle | 20:01 |
| wrst | I would probably go debian if i wasn't using arch | 20:02 |
| wrst | and run unstable | 20:02 |
| jshanks24 | oh. didnt realize it was behind. I had only booted it a few times to see what it was like but never actually used it | 20:03 |
| wrst | yeah i think the may still be on 3.8 | 20:06 |
| wrst | with arch I get the new gnome release usually within a week of release | 20:06 |
| jshanks24 | I have never used arch | 20:06 |
| wrst | I really like it, but its not for the faint of heart | 20:12 |
| wrst | the install is a bit of a pain after you do ita time or two it isn't bad | 20:12 |
| wrst | but sinc eit has no installer... | 20:12 |
| jshanks24_ | I might have to try it out | 20:12 |
| wrst | its fun, but for my personal desktop I love it | 20:13 |
| wrst | fresh packages etc but for my mom no way | 20:13 |
| jshanks24_ | what does she use? | 20:13 |
| wrst | have her on ubuntu 12.04 | 20:17 |
| wrst | nice stable and pretty well hands off | 20:17 |
| jshanks24_ | going to upgrade her to 14.04? | 20:17 |
| wrst | yes more than likely if they don't do anything too crazy with unity | 20:18 |
| jshanks24_ | How ling have you been a member of this team? | 20:19 |
| jshanks24_ | long* | 20:19 |
| wrst | years... | 20:20 |
| wrst | I think 2008-2009 something like that | 20:20 |
| jshanks24_ | oh wow | 20:20 |
| wrst | never has been official | 20:20 |
| wrst | and official loco | 20:20 |
| wrst | tried a time or too but just never worked especially in such a geographically diverse state | 20:21 |
| jshanks24_ | I dont know a lot about the teams. I actually just learned about them in a meeting a week ago today. | 20:22 |
| wrst | yep 2008 for me | 20:23 |
| wrst | we at one time had IRC meetings and such but they turned to be pretty fruitless | 20:23 |
| wrst | of course if there was a renewed effort that would be great too | 20:23 |
| jshanks24_ | Yeah that is something I would like to see. | 20:23 |
| wrst | we can likely try to get somethign going again | 20:24 |
| wrst | might get a little assistance from Unit193 he's not from TN but he's in the know about ubuntu and stuff :) | 20:24 |
| jshanks24_ | is meeting on IRC the typical way of doing things? | 20:25 |
| wrst | has been we have people here from memphis to the tri cities | 20:25 |
| wrst | have had some in person meetings but most of the time its just geographically feasible :) | 20:26 |
| Unit193 | Indeed. | 20:26 |
| wrst | thank you Unit193 :) | 20:26 |
| jshanks24_ | are you guys into google+? | 20:27 |
| Unit193 | I'm on it, though wrst will tell you I never post. :D | 20:27 |
| wrst | Unit193: is an internet hermit | 20:27 |
| wrst | but I like it for the photo/video backups on my phone :) | 20:28 |
| Unit193 | I'm on IRC.... | 20:28 |
| jshanks24_ | What I was thinking was using the hangouts system for meetings. | 20:28 |
| wrst | ahh yes video/voice, that means I might have to look at Unit193 | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | Poor eyes. | 20:29 |
| jshanks24_ | you can close them | 20:29 |
| wrst | eyes or the hangouts? :) | 20:29 |
| jshanks24_ | eyes | 20:29 |
| wrst | ha ha | 20:30 |
| jshanks24_ | its just an idea. Im the new guy here. I just see it being easier for ppl to attend. | 20:30 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Xubuntu did them once. Afterwards you get the "Well, are these public and if so how long?" :P | 20:32 |
| wrst | jshanks24_: we need new guys :) | 20:32 |
| wrst | could always do skype... :) | 20:32 |
| jshanks24_ | They are not public unless you do the hangouts on air | 20:33 |
| wrst | an opensource true alternative to skype or hangouts would be mighty nice | 20:33 |
| jshanks24_ | that is tru | 20:33 |
| wrst | Unit193: how would you suggest we go forward getting things revamped? | 20:34 |
| wrst | is being an official loco worth the effort? | 20:34 |
| jshanks24_ | when was the website last updated? | 20:39 |
| wrst | oh mercy been a long time :) | 20:41 |
| wrst | I'm guessign 2012 since new content? | 20:41 |
| jshanks24_ | who is updating it? | 20:42 |
| wrst | at one time I had the ability to | 20:42 |
| wrst | actually netritious is in the know on all of that | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | wrst: It's easier now to be official than it used to, LoCos are on the down. | 20:49 |
| wrst | Unit193: this is were I want to say that ubuntu is likely rooting the community out anyway so it doesn't matter | 20:51 |
| wrst | but I wont | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm, suuuure. Already saw you try to convert him to arch, silly boy. | 20:52 |
| jshanks24_ | lol. I cant abandon the Ubuntu things I have going on. | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | jshanks24_: But I'd have to recommend Xubuntu (or Lubuntu) too. :----D | 20:53 |
| jshanks24_ | I tend to like Lubuntu better | 20:53 |
| jshanks24_ | Is anyone her a fan of unity? | 20:54 |
| jshanks24_ | here* | 20:54 |
| Unit193 | Cool, that works. Tried out 14.04 Lubuntu? I finally did couple days ago and found it a bit rocky, though fixed several things. :P | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | Could be, not me though. | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | (I don't like gnome at all, but meh.) | 20:55 |
| jshanks24_ | me niether | 20:55 |
| jshanks24_ | I do like gnome though | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | Now, I haven't used it a lot, so there is that, but Xfce is just so fitting for me. | 20:55 |
| jshanks24_ | No I havent tried out 14.04 anything. lol | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Mmm, that's alright. I suppose it's more normal for me, I'm somewhat involved in development. :P | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | (Not a dev though.) | 20:57 |
| jshanks24_ | I have been known to switch around a lot on different distros other than ubuntu based so I havent took the time to fully learn Ubuntu like i could have. Now that I am working on my site more, I am trying to stick with Ubuntu stock even if i do hate the unity | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | Stock? People actually stick with sanity? | 21:03 |
| * Unit193 hides the output of debsums. | 21:03 | |
| jshanks24_ | I need the tutorials to look like what a new user would see on their sceen. | 21:04 |
| * wrst checks out for a while | 21:15 | |
| Unit193 | wrst: Don't do it! | 21:16 |
| wrst | well not that type of checking out | 21:17 |
| wrst | wb jshanks24 and chris4585 | 23:46 |
| chris4585 | thanks wrst | 23:49 |
| wrst | hows it going? | 23:53 |
| Unit193 | |> "Tennessee Stud" by "Johnny Cash" on "American Recordings" :P | 23:55 |
| wrst | ahh yes thats a good one and i think live Unit193 ? | 23:57 |
| Unit193 | Sounds like it. Figured it'd fit in here. :P | 23:57 |
| Unit193 | Not my favorite, but not bad. | 23:57 |
| wrst | been a while since i have listened to that album | 23:57 |
| Unit193 | Pandora. | 23:57 |
| wrst | great album overall tom petty and the heartbreakers make a good backup band | 23:58 |
| Unit193 | |> "A Country Boy Can Survive" by "Hank Williams Jr." Now this one, something tells me you'd like this channel. | 23:58 |
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