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kRushis there a way to control power management on amd cards with the proprietary drivers?03:29
kRushI'm watching a flash video and everything just runs on fricking maximum clocks >:(03:31
knuckleballIf you are a dev in here, thanks! I brought this laptop back to life with xubuntu!04:35
shaggyi has a question about xubuntu as im a first time user05:46
shaggycan xbuntu boot and run without a monitor?05:47
shaggyit seems that ubuntu freaks out about it05:47
Unit193It's not a normal use case, but AFAIK it can just fine.  Try it live?05:47
shaggysee with windows i konw you can. i would have thought linux was them same ?05:49
shaggy*know05:49
holsteinshaggy: i do it often.. "headless".. xubuntu *is* ubuntu, and both should be able to do it05:49
holsteinshaggy: how does it work from a live CD as Unit193 suggested?05:49
shaggysee im runing desktop and when i have tryed it i get a message about screen issues05:50
shaggyim still downloading my copy as i type05:50
holsteinshaggy: how? what message? if its a bios screen, thast pre-os05:50
holsteinshaggy: i literally unplug the monitor, and just run them headless.. occasionally i have to mess about with the bios05:51
Unit193And if it's complaining about DISPLAY not set, then you can get that with a monitor hookedup.05:51
shaggywhat happens is that ubuntu loads up then you get a low graphics card error and it wont go pas thta if you dont have a monitor plugged in05:51
holsteinshaggy: you can just force the vesa driver.. i have just put xorg.conf files in place forcing the vesa driver05:52
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 for example05:53
shaggyUnit193: i dont whant to have a monitor that is the whole point and i dont want to have to plug one in and out. i have my PC set to trun on after say a blackout so i dont whant to plug a monitor in and out after that05:53
holsteini would want something like xfce that doesnt require 3d like unity does. but, maing ubuntu will do it05:53
holsteinshaggy: what the issue is, is, you will have the same issue you are having with or without a monitor plugged in05:54
shaggyholstein: i have tried the VESA driver as i run teamviewer so i can try and tell if it has booted and after chaneing xorg it hangs05:54
shaggyholstein: works with vesa drivers if monitor is pluged in05:55
holsteinshaggy: with the vesa driver, after booting, at it "fails", and you plug a monitor back in, whats going on?05:55
shaggyi shall do it now05:56
shaggywith u guys here05:56
shaggy2 x pcs05:57
holsteinshaggy: while you are rebooting, check the bios for "stop during" whatever options05:57
shaggyholstein: bios is fine as i was doing this with windows before05:57
holsteinshaggy: if you dont mind, check it, ok?05:58
shaggyholstein: pc has been booted brb kettle05:58
shaggyok will do05:58
shaggyholstein: bios is set to halt on no errors06:01
shaggyso bios wont halt. pc should have booted by now but nothing06:02
holsteinshaggy: OK.. so, plug a monitor in,a nd see what it says, if anything.. and consider setting up ssh on the machine so you can go in right now and look06:02
shaggyand moitor is blank06:03
holsteinteamviewer is not going to help much in this case06:03
holsteinshaggy: try tty06:03
shaggylol i guessed that06:03
shaggyi shall setup ssh06:04
shaggysudo apt-get install ssh ??06:05
holstein!ssh06:05
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)06:05
holstein!info openssh-server06:05
ubottuopenssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell (SSH) server, for secure access from remote machines. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.2p2-6ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 252 kB, installed size 777 kB06:05
shaggyi have putty up on windows now06:05
holstein^ sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:05
Unit193dropbear if you want one in your initramfs.06:06
holsteinshaggy: you can always try a mini iso, or the server version.. its always "just worked" for me, though, i have had some issues settled in the bios or with the vesa driver06:06
Unit193I've booted headless no problems. :/06:06
Unit193shaggy: How do you know it's not up?06:07
holsteinshaggy: i must sleep.. good luck06:07
Unit193sleep well, holstein.06:07
shaggychher for help thus far06:08
shaggyUnit193: do u plug a monitor in then once booted unplug ?06:09
Unit193Normally it's in all the time, but I have in the past booted without one entirely.  I'm wondering at what point is it stopping though.06:09
shaggyssh is installed now so i will reboot and see06:10
shaggyUnit193:: its not even getting to a point where i can ssh into it06:13
shaggywill try xubuntu live06:15
shaggyok live is booting up now06:21
sisyphushello...does anyone here have any experience with the wolfram CDFplayer?  I have the desktop version that is available for linux and it is installed properly.  Now I am wondering how I download an embedded cdf file from a webpage so that I can view it in the desktop player. any advice would be helpful. google just tells me how to install it.06:30
sisyphusjudging by the silence I can only deduce that I either asked a stupid question or asked it on the wrong channel.06:37
elfyor no-one is about who's got an answer :)06:39
Unit193sisyphus: First time hearing about whatever that is.  Can you look at the page source and see the embed link?  Would dwhelper (firefox addon) spot it?06:39
Unit193(General questions, I don't know)06:39
xubuntu904maybee this way might work06:40
xubuntu904live booted up ok06:40
Unit193\o/06:44
sisyphushmmm. it appears that the file is not present in the source if the browser detects a lack of plugin. unfortunately the browser plugin only exists for windows and macOS.06:46
braden_Question - I have multiple workspaces enabled and whenever I try to drag a window to the side of the screen to "snap" it to half of the screen it wraps around to the next workspace. Is there any way to disable this behavior?07:17
braden_Ah, never mind, I got it. The setting is handled by the window manager.07:19
xubuntu460ciao07:22
xubuntu460posso fare una domanda??07:23
xubuntu460there is a person that can help me??07:23
cfhowlettxubuntu904, is English please07:24
cfhowlett!it07:24
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)07:24
Shudorshonhi07:33
Shudorshonhaving problem with hotot07:33
Shaggy-89hey all09:34
Shaggy-89how many people know hot to make xubuntu run with no monitor ?09:39
baizonShaggy-89: for what purpose?09:49
baizonand what do you mean by "with no monitor"?09:50
baizonyou can run xubuntu as a server for example09:50
cfhowlettShaggy-89, sounds like a "headless server" thing - ask in #ubuntu-server09:50
HarryRsoleHi14:00
HarryRsoleI'm having an issue with you tube videos not working, ie. green and pink picture.14:02
HarryRsoleI tried the solutions that I found online but nothing seemed to work.14:02
SysiHarryRsole: what did those solutions include?14:22
Sysidid you try right-cligking on video and disabling hardware acceleration in settings?14:22
HarryRsoleYeah, I was just about to say that.14:23
HarryRsolewhen I actually right clicked on the video itself I could barely make out the selection to disable hardware acceleration14:24
HarryRsoleIn chromium i disabled it in settings14:24
Sysiif you're using chromium you can try this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html14:27
xubuntu253hi! why gentoo is so hard and ubuntu so nice?15:33
uflaighello everyone, having a problem with autostart!15:59
uflaigI'm using synergy, and I see one entry for synergy in ~/.config/autostart for synergy, yet it autostarts 3 times16:00
uflaigI tried the awesome window manager and switched back to xfce, since then it starts like I said before 3 times16:01
uflaigdoes anyone have any ideas where I might find more autostart entries?16:02
Sysitry emptying ~/.cache/sessions16:04
uflaigSysi: alright, rm ~/.cache/sessions16:05
uflaigI mean rm ~/.cache/sessions/*16:06
uflaiganyhow, need to restart to test it, brb!16:06
bingohello. What is command to install xubuntu please?16:08
uflaigSysi: I'm back, and I have to tell it worked, thanks a lot Sysi!16:08
Sysiuflaig: you're welcome16:10
uflaig: )16:10
Sysibingo: on top of ubuntu? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop16:10
bingookay ubuntu is fully updated. so i can just do the second?16:12
Sysiyup16:14
bingoty16:16
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Shudorshondoes anyone know voyager linux official channel?18:29
holstein!voyager18:29
holsteinhmm.. i thought we had one of those18:30
Shudorshonname?18:30
holsteinShudorshon: yes.. i'll just open a seach browser and find it... and give it to you.. please wait.. thanks18:30
Shudorshonok kimusabi18:30
* Shudorshon is waiting...18:31
holsteinShudorshon: http://voyager.legtux.org/index.php/a-propos-2/18:33
Shudorshonholstein,  is it their irc channel address?18:34
holsteinShudorshon: you can ask them at the above contact link..18:34
holsteinShudorshon: they may not have an irc channel.. and it may not be on freenode if they do..18:34
Shudorshonyeah i think they have no channel in freenode18:35
elfydont forget we have a irc channel on freenode irc.freenode.net #voyage18:35
elfyhttp://list.voyage.hk/pipermail/voyage-linux/2012-January/021727.html18:35
elfywhether it's live or not is another question18:35
Shudorshonthe voyage is not voyager os room, kimusabi18:35
elfyoh well :)18:36
holsteinShudorshon: you can use tab to autocomplete nicknames18:36
Shudorshonkimusabi means brother18:36
Shudorshoni hope u r a guy18:37
holsteinShudorshon: you can refer to volunteers by nick, and have no issues where hope is a concern18:37
* Shudorshon smiles18:38
* Shudorshon also wonders18:38
Shudorshonholstein,  do u know about hotot?18:39
holsteinShudorshon: you can also use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat18:39
Shudorshonu dont know?18:40
verdessomebody has tried installing xubuntu wiht floppies?18:41
holsteinShudorshon: i have not used it18:41
Shudorshonholstein,  ok, im having a problem, can i ask u about it18:42
Shudorshon:)18:42
holsteinverdes: not in many years.. nothing is preventing that, though, i would rather plug in external media or do a net install18:42
holstein!mini | verdes these iso's are smaller18:42
ubottuverdes these iso's are smaller: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:42
holsteinShudorshon: you just ask, generally.. and a volunteer in the channel may be able to help18:43
ShudorshonShudorshon,  should i ask them mentioning their nick18:43
Shudorshonas u said18:43
verdesholstein: pc doesn't have cd reader and can't boot using usb; how to do net install?18:44
holsteinverdes: i would take the hard drive to another machine, install, and move it back18:45
holstein!ask | Shudorshon18:45
ubottuShudorshon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:45
Shudorshonok18:46
Shudorshonin one sentence !18:46
verdesholstein: great advice, but I have actually an old laptop :)18:47
Shudorshonholstein,  but u know its hard to ask about a question in only one sentence18:47
bazhangShudorshon, did you have an actual xubuntu support question18:48
Shudorshonyes18:48
Shudorshonvoyager is running on xubuntu so i think i should ask in xubuntu channel18:48
bazhangyou are running voyager OS18:48
bazhangthats not supported18:49
Shudorshonbut it says voyager os 12.04 is lts18:49
bazhangnot supported18:49
Shudorshonwhy not18:49
holsteinShudorshon: you will ask at the link i provided.. the support link at the site..18:49
Shudorshonohh ok18:50
holsteinShudorshon: this is the xubuntu support channel, and voyager, though based on xubuntu, is not xubuntu18:50
bazhangit's not xubuntu, it's a derivative18:50
Shudorshonso this channel is only for pure xubuntu right?18:50
bazhangcorrect18:50
starratsyes18:50
Shudorshonomg18:50
Shudorshonok then i should stop asking18:50
holsteinverdes: doenst matter what it is, if you can move the hard drive to other hardware, that would be one of the easier ways to address that..18:50
Shudorshonok then i think i should leave the channel18:51
starratsI mistakenly found out that yesterday, I now know this channel is nothing but xubuntu support!18:51
Sysivouager has problems vanilla xubuntu doesn't, that's why I'd recommend setting up xubuntu with vouager themes and such if desired18:51
holsteinShudorshon: the #xubuntu-offtopic channel i referenced ealier is more "open", and somewhere you can hang out in and chat18:51
Shudorshonholstein,  r u there?18:52
ShudorshonSysi,  u there19:17
YahtoI hope that i can get a bit of help here. i am having problems with my hotkeys/ fn + f1-12 the problem is that they are really slow they work but slow. if i turn volume up it takes about 10 sec to react to it21:31
linusi 'm trying to follow thus tutorial  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ ,but when i come to step 3 i double click the file but i don't get the listed optiond but instead the file is opened in gedit as text file.what went wrong?23:31
adrenaline_Is it an ISO File?23:32
adrenaline_wait I am looking at your link23:33
holsteinlinus: i use unetbootin23:37
linusadrenaline_, ok,thanx.i had to open it in terminal using ./file.it's running noe23:38
linusholstein, is it any better?23:39
holsteinlinus: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case.. it works for me..23:39
linusok,i may try it in case this one fails23:41
holsteinok.. i thought you were here due to failure...23:42
holstein!info unetbootin23:42
ubottuunetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 575-1ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 284 kB, installed size 830 kB23:42
linusbut it's not used for multi boot .is it?23:46
holsteinyumi is what i used for that.. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ i did it once years ago and it was kind of "meh".. so i dont bother anymore.. but, it worked as advertised23:47
linusi tried it yesterday .it didn't work23:48
holsteinlinus: you'll just need to ask the maintainers of the tools that arent working23:50
linusit didn't work under Debian but may be it will for ubuntu23:51

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