[03:29] <kRush> is there a way to control power management on amd cards with the proprietary drivers?
[03:31] <kRush> I'm watching a flash video and everything just runs on fricking maximum clocks >:(
[04:35] <knuckleball> If you are a dev in here, thanks! I brought this laptop back to life with xubuntu!
[05:46] <shaggy> i has a question about xubuntu as im a first time user
[05:47] <shaggy> can xbuntu boot and run without a monitor?
[05:47] <shaggy> it seems that ubuntu freaks out about it
[05:47] <Unit193> It's not a normal use case, but AFAIK it can just fine.  Try it live?
[05:49] <shaggy> see with windows i konw you can. i would have thought linux was them same ?
[05:49] <shaggy> *know
[05:49] <holstein> shaggy: i do it often.. "headless".. xubuntu *is* ubuntu, and both should be able to do it
[05:49] <holstein> shaggy: how does it work from a live CD as Unit193 suggested?
[05:50] <shaggy> see im runing desktop and when i have tryed it i get a message about screen issues
[05:50] <shaggy> im still downloading my copy as i type
[05:50] <holstein> shaggy: how? what message? if its a bios screen, thast pre-os
[05:51] <holstein> shaggy: i literally unplug the monitor, and just run them headless.. occasionally i have to mess about with the bios
[05:51] <Unit193> And if it's complaining about DISPLAY not set, then you can get that with a monitor hookedup.
[05:51] <shaggy> what happens is that ubuntu loads up then you get a low graphics card error and it wont go pas thta if you dont have a monitor plugged in
[05:52] <holstein> shaggy: you can just force the vesa driver.. i have just put xorg.conf files in place forcing the vesa driver
[05:53] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 for example
[05:53] <shaggy> Unit193: i dont whant to have a monitor that is the whole point and i dont want to have to plug one in and out. i have my PC set to trun on after say a blackout so i dont whant to plug a monitor in and out after that
[05:53] <holstein> i would want something like xfce that doesnt require 3d like unity does. but, maing ubuntu will do it
[05:54] <holstein> shaggy: what the issue is, is, you will have the same issue you are having with or without a monitor plugged in
[05:54] <shaggy> holstein: i have tried the VESA driver as i run teamviewer so i can try and tell if it has booted and after chaneing xorg it hangs
[05:55] <shaggy> holstein: works with vesa drivers if monitor is pluged in
[05:55] <holstein> shaggy: with the vesa driver, after booting, at it "fails", and you plug a monitor back in, whats going on?
[05:56] <shaggy> i shall do it now
[05:56] <shaggy> with u guys here
[05:57] <shaggy> 2 x pcs
[05:57] <holstein> shaggy: while you are rebooting, check the bios for "stop during" whatever options
[05:57] <shaggy> holstein: bios is fine as i was doing this with windows before
[05:58] <holstein> shaggy: if you dont mind, check it, ok?
[05:58] <shaggy> holstein: pc has been booted brb kettle
[05:58] <shaggy> ok will do
[06:01] <shaggy> holstein: bios is set to halt on no errors
[06:02] <shaggy> so bios wont halt. pc should have booted by now but nothing
[06:02] <holstein> shaggy: OK.. so, plug a monitor in,a nd see what it says, if anything.. and consider setting up ssh on the machine so you can go in right now and look
[06:03] <shaggy> and moitor is blank
[06:03] <holstein> teamviewer is not going to help much in this case
[06:03] <holstein> shaggy: try tty
[06:03] <shaggy> lol i guessed that
[06:04] <shaggy> i shall setup ssh
[06:05] <shaggy> sudo apt-get install ssh ??
[06:05] <holstein> !ssh
[06:05] <holstein> !info openssh-server
[06:05] <shaggy> i have putty up on windows now
[06:05] <holstein> ^ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:06] <Unit193> dropbear if you want one in your initramfs.
[06:06] <holstein> shaggy: you can always try a mini iso, or the server version.. its always "just worked" for me, though, i have had some issues settled in the bios or with the vesa driver
[06:06] <Unit193> I've booted headless no problems. :/
[06:07] <Unit193> shaggy: How do you know it's not up?
[06:07] <holstein> shaggy: i must sleep.. good luck
[06:07] <Unit193> sleep well, holstein.
[06:08] <shaggy> chher for help thus far
[06:09] <shaggy> Unit193: do u plug a monitor in then once booted unplug ?
[06:09] <Unit193> Normally it's in all the time, but I have in the past booted without one entirely.  I'm wondering at what point is it stopping though.
[06:10] <shaggy> ssh is installed now so i will reboot and see
[06:13] <shaggy> Unit193:: its not even getting to a point where i can ssh into it
[06:15] <shaggy> will try xubuntu live
[06:21] <shaggy> ok live is booting up now
[06:30] <sisyphus> hello...does anyone here have any experience with the wolfram CDFplayer?  I have the desktop version that is available for linux and it is installed properly.  Now I am wondering how I download an embedded cdf file from a webpage so that I can view it in the desktop player. any advice would be helpful. google just tells me how to install it.
[06:37] <sisyphus> judging by the silence I can only deduce that I either asked a stupid question or asked it on the wrong channel.
[06:39] <elfy> or no-one is about who's got an answer :)
[06:39] <Unit193> sisyphus: First time hearing about whatever that is.  Can you look at the page source and see the embed link?  Would dwhelper (firefox addon) spot it?
[06:39] <Unit193> (General questions, I don't know)
[06:40] <xubuntu904> maybee this way might work
[06:40] <xubuntu904> live booted up ok
[06:44] <Unit193> \o/
[06:46] <sisyphus> hmmm. it appears that the file is not present in the source if the browser detects a lack of plugin. unfortunately the browser plugin only exists for windows and macOS.
[07:17] <braden_> Question - I have multiple workspaces enabled and whenever I try to drag a window to the side of the screen to "snap" it to half of the screen it wraps around to the next workspace. Is there any way to disable this behavior?
[07:19] <braden_> Ah, never mind, I got it. The setting is handled by the window manager.
[07:22] <xubuntu460> ciao
[07:23] <xubuntu460> posso fare una domanda??
[07:23] <xubuntu460> there is a person that can help me??
[07:24] <cfhowlett> xubuntu904, is English please
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !it
[07:33] <Shudorshon> hi
[07:33] <Shudorshon> having problem with hotot
[09:34] <Shaggy-89> hey all
[09:39] <Shaggy-89> how many people know hot to make xubuntu run with no monitor ?
[09:49] <baizon> Shaggy-89: for what purpose?
[09:50] <baizon> and what do you mean by "with no monitor"?
[09:50] <baizon> you can run xubuntu as a server for example
[09:50] <cfhowlett> Shaggy-89, sounds like a "headless server" thing - ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:00] <HarryRsole> Hi
[14:02] <HarryRsole> I'm having an issue with you tube videos not working, ie. green and pink picture.
[14:02] <HarryRsole> I tried the solutions that I found online but nothing seemed to work.
[14:22] <Sysi> HarryRsole: what did those solutions include?
[14:22] <Sysi> did you try right-cligking on video and disabling hardware acceleration in settings?
[14:23] <HarryRsole> Yeah, I was just about to say that.
[14:24] <HarryRsole> when I actually right clicked on the video itself I could barely make out the selection to disable hardware acceleration
[14:24] <HarryRsole> In chromium i disabled it in settings
[14:27] <Sysi> if you're using chromium you can try this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[15:33] <xubuntu253> hi! why gentoo is so hard and ubuntu so nice?
[15:59] <uflaig> hello everyone, having a problem with autostart!
[16:00] <uflaig> I'm using synergy, and I see one entry for synergy in ~/.config/autostart for synergy, yet it autostarts 3 times
[16:01] <uflaig> I tried the awesome window manager and switched back to xfce, since then it starts like I said before 3 times
[16:02] <uflaig> does anyone have any ideas where I might find more autostart entries?
[16:04] <Sysi> try emptying ~/.cache/sessions
[16:05] <uflaig> Sysi: alright, rm ~/.cache/sessions
[16:06] <uflaig> I mean rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[16:06] <uflaig> anyhow, need to restart to test it, brb!
[16:08] <bingo> hello. What is command to install xubuntu please?
[16:08] <uflaig> Sysi: I'm back, and I have to tell it worked, thanks a lot Sysi!
[16:10] <Sysi> uflaig: you're welcome
[16:10] <uflaig> : )
[16:10] <Sysi> bingo: on top of ubuntu? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <bingo> okay ubuntu is fully updated. so i can just do the second?
[16:14] <Sysi> yup
[16:16] <bingo> ty
[18:29] <Shudorshon> does anyone know voyager linux official channel?
[18:29] <holstein> !voyager
[18:30] <holstein> hmm.. i thought we had one of those
[18:30] <Shudorshon> name?
[18:30] <holstein> Shudorshon: yes.. i'll just open a seach browser and find it... and give it to you.. please wait.. thanks
[18:30] <Shudorshon> ok kimusabi
[18:31]  * Shudorshon is waiting...
[18:33] <holstein> Shudorshon: http://voyager.legtux.org/index.php/a-propos-2/
[18:34] <Shudorshon> holstein,  is it their irc channel address?
[18:34] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can ask them at the above contact link..
[18:34] <holstein> Shudorshon: they may not have an irc channel.. and it may not be on freenode if they do..
[18:35] <Shudorshon> yeah i think they have no channel in freenode
[18:35] <elfy> dont forget we have a irc channel on freenode irc.freenode.net #voyage
[18:35] <elfy> http://list.voyage.hk/pipermail/voyage-linux/2012-January/021727.html
[18:35] <elfy> whether it's live or not is another question
[18:35] <Shudorshon> the voyage is not voyager os room, kimusabi
[18:36] <elfy> oh well :)
[18:36] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can use tab to autocomplete nicknames
[18:36] <Shudorshon> kimusabi means brother
[18:37] <Shudorshon> i hope u r a guy
[18:37] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can refer to volunteers by nick, and have no issues where hope is a concern
[18:38]  * Shudorshon smiles
[18:38]  * Shudorshon also wonders
[18:39] <Shudorshon> holstein,  do u know about hotot?
[18:39] <holstein> Shudorshon: you can also use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[18:40] <Shudorshon> u dont know?
[18:41] <verdes> somebody has tried installing xubuntu wiht floppies?
[18:41] <holstein> Shudorshon: i have not used it
[18:42] <Shudorshon> holstein,  ok, im having a problem, can i ask u about it
[18:42] <Shudorshon> :)
[18:42] <holstein> verdes: not in many years.. nothing is preventing that, though, i would rather plug in external media or do a net install
[18:42] <holstein> !mini | verdes these iso's are smaller
[18:43] <holstein> Shudorshon: you just ask, generally.. and a volunteer in the channel may be able to help
[18:43] <Shudorshon> Shudorshon,  should i ask them mentioning their nick
[18:43] <Shudorshon> as u said
[18:44] <verdes> holstein: pc doesn't have cd reader and can't boot using usb; how to do net install?
[18:45] <holstein> verdes: i would take the hard drive to another machine, install, and move it back
[18:45] <holstein> !ask | Shudorshon
[18:46] <Shudorshon> ok
[18:46] <Shudorshon> in one sentence !
[18:47] <verdes> holstein: great advice, but I have actually an old laptop :)
[18:47] <Shudorshon> holstein,  but u know its hard to ask about a question in only one sentence
[18:48] <bazhang> Shudorshon, did you have an actual xubuntu support question
[18:48] <Shudorshon> yes
[18:48] <Shudorshon> voyager is running on xubuntu so i think i should ask in xubuntu channel
[18:48] <bazhang> you are running voyager OS
[18:49] <bazhang> thats not supported
[18:49] <Shudorshon> but it says voyager os 12.04 is lts
[18:49] <bazhang> not supported
[18:49] <Shudorshon> why not
[18:49] <holstein> Shudorshon: you will ask at the link i provided.. the support link at the site..
[18:50] <Shudorshon> ohh ok
[18:50] <holstein> Shudorshon: this is the xubuntu support channel, and voyager, though based on xubuntu, is not xubuntu
[18:50] <bazhang> it's not xubuntu, it's a derivative
[18:50] <Shudorshon> so this channel is only for pure xubuntu right?
[18:50] <bazhang> correct
[18:50] <starrats> yes
[18:50] <Shudorshon> omg
[18:50] <Shudorshon> ok then i should stop asking
[18:50] <holstein> verdes: doenst matter what it is, if you can move the hard drive to other hardware, that would be one of the easier ways to address that..
[18:51] <Shudorshon> ok then i think i should leave the channel
[18:51] <starrats> I mistakenly found out that yesterday, I now know this channel is nothing but xubuntu support!
[18:51] <Sysi> vouager has problems vanilla xubuntu doesn't, that's why I'd recommend setting up xubuntu with vouager themes and such if desired
[18:51] <holstein> Shudorshon: the #xubuntu-offtopic channel i referenced ealier is more "open", and somewhere you can hang out in and chat
[18:52] <Shudorshon> holstein,  r u there?
[19:17] <Shudorshon> Sysi,  u there
[21:31] <Yahto> I hope that i can get a bit of help here. i am having problems with my hotkeys/ fn + f1-12 the problem is that they are really slow they work but slow. if i turn volume up it takes about 10 sec to react to it
[23:31] <linus> i 'm trying to follow thus tutorial  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ ,but when i come to step 3 i double click the file but i don't get the listed optiond but instead the file is opened in gedit as text file.what went wrong?
[23:32] <adrenaline_> Is it an ISO File?
[23:33] <adrenaline_> wait I am looking at your link
[23:37] <holstein> linus: i use unetbootin
[23:38] <linus> adrenaline_, ok,thanx.i had to open it in terminal using ./file.it's running noe
[23:39] <linus> holstein, is it any better?
[23:39] <holstein> linus: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case.. it works for me..
[23:41] <linus> ok,i may try it in case this one fails
[23:42] <holstein> ok.. i thought you were here due to failure...
[23:42] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[23:46] <linus> but it's not used for multi boot .is it?
[23:47] <holstein> yumi is what i used for that.. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ i did it once years ago and it was kind of "meh".. so i dont bother anymore.. but, it worked as advertised
[23:48] <linus> i tried it yesterday .it didn't work
[23:50] <holstein> linus: you'll just need to ask the maintainers of the tools that arent working
[23:51] <linus> it didn't work under Debian but may be it will for ubuntu