| ochosi | brainwash: just pushed a configurable screensaver-timeout... (default is 60secs now) | 00:02 |
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| Noskcaj | So what am i taking from Unit193's version? Just his new patch? | 00:07 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: i did a complete new patch, but the diff is just one line | 00:09 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, that's the accountsservice one? | 00:09 |
| ochosi | yes | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | I said something to brain as he's interested in the transition thing. :P | 00:09 |
| ochosi | it now checks only for the first workspace's wallpaper, not the most recently changed wallpaper | 00:10 |
| ochosi | somehow it makes more sense like this, because workspace 1 is always shown on login | 00:10 |
| ochosi | (unless you add some startup magic...) | 00:10 |
| brainwash | so true | 00:11 |
| Noskcaj | So I just copy all the patches from unit's version, refresh them, and done | 00:12 |
| Unit193 | ...Unless you're working on a different version, why would you refresh? | 00:13 |
| Noskcaj | quilt likes to add a header that is rather useful | 00:13 |
| Noskcaj | speaking of which, those patches should probably get DEP8 headers | 00:14 |
| Unit193 | I had to re-work the nautilus one too, things changed. These have the DEP headers. | 00:14 |
| Noskcaj | yep. your right | 00:14 |
| Unit193 | Okay... I was starting to wonder if you were looking at some other source. | 00:15 |
| Unit193 | And what exactly is quilt mangleing? | 00:15 |
| Noskcaj | probably some form of patch death | 00:15 |
| Unit193 | Check the changelog, I ignored it. Also, I fixed a lintian warning about declaring what section more than once, not sure if it was xfwm or xfdesktop so you may want to re-add for a closer sync. :P | 00:18 |
| Noskcaj | I only copied the patches across. I'd fix that lintian warning in debian, but it's tedious and doesn't damage anything. | 00:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: another useful addition, and with this amount of changes we surely need another release soon :) | 00:32 |
| ochosi | yup, maybe | 00:33 |
| ochosi | we'll see, i guess we need to check what's on the roadmap for 1.8 | 00:33 |
| brainwash | I see, "Improve keyboard-navigation" | 00:35 |
| ochosi | we might wanna add more kb-shortcuts, like Alt+F4 at some point | 00:36 |
| brainwash | useful, especially for people who dislike using the mouse | 00:37 |
| brainwash | like me | 00:37 |
| * Unit193 wonders if he should show xombrero to brainwash, decides not to and runs. | 00:38 | |
| brainwash | looks interesting | 00:39 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre-laptop, When do you think you'll get catfish's next release out? | 01:23 |
| Noskcaj | The same with mugshot | 01:24 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I might have found an explanation for our current abiword ruler problem | 02:43 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the rulers are GtkDrawingAreas, setting the gobject property "double-buffered" to FALSE prevents the glitch | 02:48 |
| bluesabre-laptop | Noskcaj: hopefully sometime this week for both, definitely at least one of them | 03:15 |
| Noskcaj | awesome | 03:15 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: you can't merge branches for stable releases unless it's into -proposed | 04:18 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, ok. I wasn't really sure of the process. Hopefully whoever sponsors it will put the changes where they are meant to go | 04:19 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: that diff is ridiculous in the MR, can you provide a debdiff pleasE? | 04:19 |
| Noskcaj | I can't right now, but it was adding the two patches from debian and forcing xdt-autogen to run, just like in trusty | 04:20 |
| micahg | there's a lot of noise from the .pc dir | 04:21 |
| micahg | this is one reason I don't like bzr merges | 04:22 |
| Noskcaj | That bit is very understandable | 04:23 |
| Noskcaj | But could you please sponsor the xfce stuff anyway? | 04:24 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: if http://paste.ubuntu.com/6795392/ applies, I'll sponsor it (well, without the noise for the 06_fix-suspend-auth-check.patch patch | 04:29 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 04:30 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: actually, the 06_add-shutdown-reboot-functionality-for-systemd.patch needs dep-3 headers | 04:31 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: if you want to paste those somewhere or PM, I can add them and upload | 04:32 |
| micahg | well, test building now | 04:33 |
| Noskcaj | I don't know the history of the patch, other than it was from debian. I forget who did the rest of the work for this one | 04:33 |
| micahg | svn blame? | 04:33 |
| Unit193 | Suse, wasn't it? | 04:34 |
| Unit193 | Or, bts. | 04:34 |
| Noskcaj | Yeah, SUSE originally | 04:36 |
| Noskcaj | so Origin: OpenSUSUE | 04:37 |
| Noskcaj | Debian-Bug: #727605 | 04:37 |
| ubottu | bug 727605 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "notinc só." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727605 | 04:37 |
| micahg | Bug-Debian I think is the proper notation | 04:37 |
| Noskcaj | Yes, you're right | 04:37 |
| Noskcaj | then Bug-Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1222021 | 04:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "[SRU] xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [High,In progress] | 04:39 |
| Noskcaj | I'm not sure what to put for description | 04:39 |
| Noskcaj | And then that would be it | 04:39 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Indeed, not interested in doing merges because of bzr. | 04:42 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, there are other ways | 04:42 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, When you've merged this, i'll propose a merge to trusty for bug 1067749 as an excuse to add the header there | 04:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1067749 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Screen refuses to dim on battery" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067749 | 04:47 |
| micahg | still waiting, going to sleep soon | 04:59 |
| Noskcaj | for? | 05:00 |
| micahg | dep3-headers | 05:00 |
| Noskcaj | I though you where putting them in with what i'd already said, sorry. | 05:00 |
| micahg | can you PM me the whole block | 05:01 |
| micahg | please | 05:01 |
| Noskcaj | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6795501/ | 05:02 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: what about the note here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727605#10 | 05:04 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 727605 in xfce4-power-manager "Add support for systemd inhibit API" [Normal,Open] | 05:04 |
| micahg | or did we lose upower in saucy | 05:04 |
| micahg | I'm a little behind the times | 05:04 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, I'm not 100% sure, but i think it's ok since we've tested this in trusty and saucy for quite a while with no issues | 05:05 |
| Noskcaj | plus corsac added it to debian svn | 05:05 |
| micahg | ok | 05:05 |
| Unit193 | upower is very much there. | 05:08 |
| micahg | ok, maybe add test notes to make sure that use case gets tested | 05:09 |
| Noskcaj | will do. | 05:10 |
| Noskcaj | thanks micahg. | 05:18 |
| Noskcaj | Is there any chance your lack of time will be fixed soonish? | 05:18 |
| micahg | probably going to be a bit more, I'll try to find some hours for sponsoring | 05:19 |
| Noskcaj | :) | 05:20 |
| Noskcaj | I apologizes in advance for my use of bzr for everything | 05:20 |
| micahg | haha, not your fault, it's encouraged | 05:20 |
| micahg | night all | 05:31 |
| micahg | Noskcaj: thanks for the fix | 05:32 |
| Noskcaj | g'night micahg | 05:37 |
| Unit193 | Mica: Thanks. | 05:56 |
| Noskcaj | hey elfy | 07:41 |
| elfy | morning | 07:41 |
| Noskcaj | Any chance of a call for testing soonish for power manager (saucy) and weather-plugin (precise)? | 07:43 |
| Noskcaj | micah has sponsored power manager, and infinity has said he can sync weather-plugin if testers are ready | 07:44 |
| elfy | do people still use saucy? | 07:47 |
| elfy | :p | 07:47 |
| elfy | I'll fit it in - but if it's SRU stuff better to be done via LP bugs as is normal | 07:47 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, it has been | 08:31 |
| ochosi | brainwash: have you reported that upstream already? | 08:35 |
| slickymaster | morning all | 09:36 |
| knome | ali1234, ? | 10:54 |
| ali1234 | hi | 10:56 |
| knome | ali1234, do you have the script to download all original sized attachments from a ubuntu wiki page handy? | 10:56 |
| ali1234 | somewhere | 10:56 |
| knome | ok, if you could dig it up, i would have a use for it... | 10:57 |
| knome | (the same as the last time, picking up the wallpaper submissions) | 10:57 |
| ali1234 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6796659/ | 10:58 |
| brainwash | ochosi: no, 1) no abiword bugtracker account and more importantly 2) I just observed it by experimenting with gtkparasite, so I would need to check the source and rebuild abiword | 10:59 |
| brainwash | is the new xubuntu 14.04 default wallpaper already available? or some work in progress? | 11:01 |
| knome | ali1234, ta | 11:01 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: you around? | 11:04 |
| slickymaster | knome: ping | 11:06 |
| knome | slickymaster, dong | 11:06 |
| slickymaster | knome: do you have mugshot on your system? | 11:09 |
| knome | nope | 11:09 |
| slickymaster | well, thing is that I'm not getting my digital camera to appear listed in mugshot upon clicking the image button | 11:10 |
| slickymaster | any ideas? | 11:10 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: ^^^ | 11:12 |
| bluesabre-laptop | slickymaster: install gstreamer1.0-tools | 11:28 |
| bluesabre-laptop | I need to add that to recommends in my ppa | 11:28 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: installing gstreamer1.o-tools didn't solve it | 11:39 |
| bluesabre-laptop | maybe gstreamer1.0-x or gstreamer1.0-libav | 11:41 |
| slickymaster | ok, going to try it | 11:41 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: still no dice | 11:42 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: any other options that cross your mind? | 11:49 |
| knome | bbl | 11:51 |
| bluesabre-laptop | slickymaster: here's what I have installed, http://dpaste.com/1564260/ | 12:31 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre-laptop: ok, I'll check if I have all those installed om my box | 12:32 |
| bluesabre-laptop | Finally got this typed up: http://smdavis.us/2014/01/22/menulibre-2-0-released-trusty-ppa-available/ | 13:08 |
| bluesabre-laptop | gotta go to work, bbl | 13:09 |
| hjbvjhbvjdsfsdfd | alpha 2 tomorrow? | 14:34 |
| epll45831 | what are the requirements for 14.04? | 14:52 |
| slickymaster | epll45831: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#The_Target | 14:53 |
| epll45831 | thanks | 14:54 |
| slickymaster | bbl -> | 17:12 |
| elfy | 8 people reporting for alpha2 | 17:20 |
| elfy | no wonder why I get so fed up with wasting my time | 17:20 |
| elfy | knome: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1628change/+merge/202716 | 17:25 |
| brainwash | elfy: how are you wasting your time? | 17:28 |
| elfy | 8 people? | 17:28 |
| elfy | we'd probably get that many if I didn't bother | 17:29 |
| brainwash | I do lots of testing, but no iso testing | 17:29 |
| elfy | I guess others do as well | 17:29 |
| brainwash | right, and especially now we would need more test results | 17:30 |
| brainwash | LTS | 17:30 |
| elfy | I know | 17:31 |
| brainwash | elfy: you could announce the alpha 2 release in Ubuntu +1 (forum) and call for additional testers :) | 17:37 |
| brainwash | too bad that the alpha release still does not contain some of the exiting new features to lure people to do some testing | 17:39 |
| elfy | brainwash: that's ok up to the point gnome/lubuntu/kubuntu do the same :p | 17:53 |
| elfy | yea - hopefully we'll have them all there for beta1, but who knows | 17:54 |
| elfy | any later than that and someone else can worry about testing | 17:54 |
| elfy | brainwash: that said we get full marks :p "Testing still needs to start for Edubuntu and Ubuntu Kylin. Full marks to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome for getting theirs done." | 18:10 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: hey - I ended up wandering off to work this morning and not talking to you further re for power manager (saucy) and weather-plugin (precise) | 19:02 |
| Noskcaj | that's fine, i wasn't there either | 19:02 |
| elfy | if they've been checked as part of the sru process - is there any need to do more? | 19:03 |
| Noskcaj | for bug 1244629, we need people to check, since it will just be a sync. and for saucy people need to check upower still works fine | 19:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1244629 in xfce4-weather-plugin (Ubuntu Precise) "SRU xfce4-weather-plugin, currently showing 'No Data'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244629 | 19:05 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: make a call after tomorrow - there's nothing on our schedule between now and feb 6th | 19:09 |
| Noskcaj | ok.If corsac is around soonish to sponsor 3.3.1, maybe a gthumb call too | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Do we want light locker 1.1 for trusty or stay at 1.0? | 19:10 |
| elfy | ok - but come beginning of february there's going to be calls constantly for packages and images | 19:10 |
| elfy | !team | 19:11 |
| ubottu | bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 19:11 |
| elfy | ^^ that - so don't leave it too late | 19:11 |
| lderan | :P | 19:13 |
| lderan | shall be doing some testing at about 9pm, possibly sooner | 19:14 |
| elfy | :) | 19:14 |
| knome | elfy, waah? | 19:28 |
| elfy | knome: pedal? | 19:30 |
| knome | pinging people | 19:34 |
| elfy | yea | 19:34 |
| elfy | is there another way to tell people that they've not got long left | 19:34 |
| knome | for what? | 19:34 |
| knome | :P | 19:34 |
| elfy | come beginning of february there's going to be calls constantly for packages and images | 19:35 |
| knome | yep. | 19:35 |
| elfy | but personally I'm coming around to the point of view that I could just send mails out go blah blah blah and it'd not make any difference at all to the result | 19:35 |
| knome | i'm getting into the QA loop more and more | 19:36 |
| knome | even mor hurdles are now overcome | 19:36 |
| elfy | :) | 19:36 |
| elfy | I'm not pointing fingers knome | 19:36 |
| knome | i am, me fingers point at me :P | 19:37 |
| elfy | :) | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | I'm not getting on an airplane for 30 whole days, so I should have some time for testing | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | (and have pre-alpha images prepped for testing tonight, woo) | 19:38 |
| knome | oh yay | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | I appreciate the reminder emails :) | 19:39 |
| elfy | serious point - do you see any point in getting it rebuilt re "If any gtk using flavours want it in alpha 2 please let me or another archive admin" which refers to | 19:39 |
| elfy | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260396 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1260396 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Ubiquity window spans width of screen" [High,Fix released] | 19:39 |
| elfy | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260473 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1260473 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "The slide bar that allow to rezise the partition does not appear" [High,Fix released] | 19:39 |
| elfy | personally I don't | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | no | 19:40 |
| knome | elfy, stgraber said it's stuck on a queue, so not worth it... | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | but hooray for it being fixed | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | just a note in release notes about it landing too late | 19:40 |
| elfy | knome: ok | 19:41 |
| knome | note about something we don't have? | 19:41 |
| * knome doesn't understand | 19:41 | |
| knome | just don't mention it, if it hasn't landed and we didn't promise it to! | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | it makes the installer window look very wonky, people will notice :) | 19:41 |
| elfy | pleia2: I also want to list those who tested like we did last time | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | elfy: yes! | 19:42 |
| * elfy wanders off to mark alpha2 as released to catch out people who keep saying they'll test manana :p | 19:43 | |
| pleia2 | too late to test? | 19:44 |
| knome | pleia2, they want to release it some time after noon UTC today | 19:44 |
| knome | err, | 19:44 |
| knome | tomorrow | 19:44 |
| elfy | today | 19:44 |
| elfy | ? | 19:45 |
| elfy | yea - tomorrow | 19:45 |
| elfy | pleia2: no - it's not too late - I'll mark it tomorrow morning sometime around 0700UTC | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | okie | 19:45 |
| elfy | unless knome has a problem with that :p | 19:45 |
| knome | not at all | 19:45 |
| elfy | k | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | having more time to test would be good, I was all ready to test on monday! | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | was a bank holiday here, would have been great | 19:46 |
| knome | elfy knows better what the situation re: being ready to release is anyway | 19:46 |
| elfy | pleia2: all our's are done, testcase wise - but more eyes never hurts | 19:46 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:46 | |
| knome | unless they pop in in weird places, like ears :/ | 19:47 |
| elfy | "Full marks to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome for getting theirs done." | 19:47 |
| elfy | is what we got :) | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | oh, eyes on ears, yes, that would be odd | 19:47 |
| knome | marks, like the old finnish or danish marks? :P | 19:47 |
| elfy | yep | 19:47 |
| elfy | full marks in any currency you like :D | 19:48 |
| knome | lol | 19:48 |
| knome | you can only have full marks in mark-currencies! | 19:48 |
| * knome stops being silly and goes help the wife in kitchenwork | 19:48 | |
| elfy | I got more than full marks in a maths exam - still no idea how they worked that out | 19:48 |
| elfy | knome: when you get back ping me re that merge and bug | 19:50 |
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| lderan | elfy, I got 100% in a negative marked exam once. Was tempted to ask if the machine they used to do the multiple choice test was broken :P | 19:59 |
| elfy | :) | 20:00 |
| knome | elfy, what merge and bug? | 20:04 |
| elfy | https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1628change/+merge/202716 | 20:05 |
| elfy | or we should make that testcase optional http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1628/info | 20:06 |
| elfy | or I'll be failing it close to each and everytime | 20:06 |
| * knome shrugs | 20:06 | |
| knome | what do you think? | 20:06 |
| elfy | well ... all of the things we test then get tested elsewhere anyway for one | 20:07 |
| elfy | but if we're going to test it then it shouldn't be failable just because of wording | 20:07 |
| elfy | though each seperate thing says 'if ... ' | 20:08 |
| knome | yeaah... | 20:08 |
| elfy | mmm | 20:09 |
| knome | dunno, i can merge if you want | 20:09 |
| elfy | I'd rather do that I think | 20:10 |
| elfy | I know it's not much - but then I'm checking all of them as I go through them for things like that | 20:10 |
| knome | elfy, done | 20:14 |
| elfy | thanks knome :) | 20:15 |
| knome | np | 20:15 |
| GridCube | ok, some bugs, at least from my understanding, http://goput.it/122r.png <<< there is no default list of backgrounds available, it doesnt show the default background neither | 20:28 |
| GridCube | on 1024x768 the sudoku screen doesnt show complete, its like its default is larger than 1024px wich makes no sense http://goput.it/v/sou4.png | 20:29 |
| GridCube | and this might not be a bug, but why does pavucontrol has white parts? http://goput.it/bims.png | 20:29 |
| elfy | white here | 20:30 |
| elfy | GridCube: first one - you've got folder set to none - what happens if it's not | 20:31 |
| knome | last one looks like a theming bug | 20:31 |
| GridCube | elfy, that lets me choose my default home folder or the images folder, either of which have no images on them | 20:31 |
| elfy | perhaps it's a bug then :) | 20:32 |
| GridCube | http://goput.it/70l4.png | 20:33 |
| elfy | knome: and my final 'I'm not sure why we even' for today - live session "Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run" | 20:34 |
| elfy | why? | 20:34 |
| knome | GridCube, can you file a bug for that, against xfdesktop | 20:34 |
| elfy | and why not "Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run" then report the results on the package tracker" | 20:34 |
| GridCube | knome, kk | 20:35 |
| knome | elfy, the point was to gather random/exploratory testing bugs rather than the same old package tests | 20:35 |
| knome | elfy, so people can test random things, and if they appear in the ISO test... well, the bugs are at least filed | 20:35 |
| knome | elfy, we should probably expect people find those with the package tests as well, but those can never cover 100% | 20:35 |
| elfy | ok I can go with that - but that's a lot of default packages :p | 20:36 |
| knome | well... again, the point is to not restrict people to do certain kid of testing | 20:36 |
| knome | *kind | 20:37 |
| elfy | ok - I'll go back into my box now :) | 20:37 |
| knome | could be reworded to "do what you usually do", but otoh, that would again restrict people from thinking out of the box | 20:37 |
| knome | if you get what i'm saying | 20:37 |
| elfy | yea - better not to do that | 20:38 |
| GridCube | knome, http://goput.it/hxv8.png | 20:38 |
| knome | so yep, i think the current wording is fine until somebody comes up with a better wording :P | 20:38 |
| GridCube | will do it manually from this other vm | 20:38 |
| elfy | on the whole I'm quite relaxed about that now we've got packages going | 20:38 |
| knome | GridCube, i think it's just xfdesktop | 20:38 |
| knome | oh, hmm | 20:38 |
| GridCube | that package doesnt exists | 20:38 |
| knome | !info xfdesktop | 20:38 |
| knome | !info xfdesktop4 | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | xfdesktop4 | 20:38 |
| ubottu | Package xfdesktop does not exist in saucy | 20:38 |
| ubottu | xfdesktop4 (source: xfdesktop4): xfce desktop background, icons and root menu manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.2-3ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 150 kB, installed size 500 kB | 20:39 |
| knome | ok, weird.. | 20:39 |
| knome | oh, ah, | 20:39 |
| elfy | did one of the 'ppa' things get in | 20:39 |
| knome | did you enable PPA's? | 20:39 |
| knome | yeah, that's why it says so | 20:39 |
| GridCube | me? | 20:39 |
| knome | if it's not a PPA, something else might be going on | 20:40 |
| knome | for now, i think you can still gather the data for the bug with ubuntu-bug | 20:40 |
| knome | if not, just file one manually | 20:40 |
| knome | that's a trivial thing; we need to set a sane default directory | 20:40 |
| GridCube | i have not set any ppa its just a default installation | 20:43 |
| GridCube | bug #1271713 | 20:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1271713 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "xubuntu 14.04 trusty thar desktop wallpapers selection shows empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271713 | 20:44 |
| elfy | GridCube: that's odd - works ok here for the live image | 20:44 |
| GridCube | im using the i386 iso | 20:45 |
| GridCube | if that means anything | 20:45 |
| elfy | ok - not looked at those I'm afraid | 20:45 |
| knome | can't think of any reason why the arch would matter | 20:46 |
| GridCube | no idea | 20:46 |
| elfy | then again why would ubuntu-bug xfdesktop4 work ok here for me | 20:47 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, perhaps the latest version you have is from the repos? | 20:50 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: then why is the 32 bit image not using the latest | 20:50 |
| elfy | and why is it using one apparently from a ppa? | 20:50 |
| Noskcaj | i've got no idea. | 20:51 |
| elfy | that's 4 of us then :p | 20:51 |
| GridCube | :/ | 20:53 |
| GridCube | should i file a bug report about it | 20:54 |
| GridCube | ? | 20:54 |
| elfy | the ubuntu-bug thing? | 20:54 |
| elfy | GridCube: ^^ | 20:57 |
| GridCube | yes | 20:58 |
| elfy | you can - but it'll fester forever I'd guess | 20:58 |
| elfy | I me too'd the desktop settings one | 20:58 |
| GridCube | bug 1271720 | 20:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1271720 in gnome-sudoku (Ubuntu) "gnome sudoku default screen is larger than 1024px wide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271720 | 20:59 |
| elfy | knome: I see what you mean by "reworded to "do what you usually do"" GridCube apparently plays games and fiddles with the wallpaper :p | 21:02 |
| GridCube | P: i do that | 21:03 |
| elfy | :) | 21:03 |
| elfy | I'd be reporting that clementine doesn't install and play music :) | 21:03 |
| elfy | me too'd the sudoku one as well :) | 21:04 |
| elfy | can't horozontally resize it either | 21:06 |
| elfy | GridCube: ^^ | 21:06 |
| GridCube | no | 21:07 |
| GridCube | its stuck at more than 1024 | 21:07 |
| GridCube | i cant resize it even here in 13.04 | 21:07 |
| elfy | oh yea - read your bug properly now lol | 21:07 |
| elfy | that's really annoying for someone who uses it ... | 21:07 |
| GridCube | i would assume so | 21:11 |
| GridCube | true is that 1024 screens are less usual nowdays, but still | 21:11 |
| GridCube | it makes no sense why it would not resize if the sudoku itself resizes | 21:12 |
| elfy | it works in Ubuntu | 21:12 |
| elfy | odd | 21:13 |
| GridCube | it does? | 21:13 |
| GridCube | D: | 21:13 |
| elfy | yep - just asked balloons | 21:14 |
| GridCube | thats relly weird | 21:14 |
| elfy | yea | 21:14 |
| brainwash | GridCube: did pavucontrol look different before? it looks just as it did always to me | 21:17 |
| GridCube | brainwash, http://goput.it/kbe4.png | 21:18 |
| brainwash | mmh, now I'm not sure anymore :D | 21:19 |
| elfy | I looked at that in 64bit - was white - same as here on this machine | 21:20 |
| elfy | wonder if there's something odd going on with 32bit then | 21:21 |
| GridCube | it should not be white | 21:21 |
| GridCube | it should look like that last screenshot | 21:21 |
| elfy | well it's white here and on 64bit | 21:22 |
| brainwash | GridCube: please open abiword, is the top ruler hidden behind a white area? | 21:22 |
| GridCube | yes | 21:22 |
| brainwash | elfy: there was some recent change which turned some grey theme elements white | 21:22 |
| brainwash | same applies to abiword | 21:22 |
| GridCube | i think i added that to the test report | 21:22 |
| elfy | brainwash: in ppa or properly? | 21:23 |
| knome | elfy, heh :) | 21:23 |
| knome | off, bbl | 21:23 |
| elfy | cya tomorrow | 21:23 |
| knome | you too | 21:23 |
| GridCube | but is not white brainwash | 21:23 |
| GridCube | is grey http://goput.it/10h9.png | 21:24 |
| elfy | GridCube: is pavu white in the a2 ? | 21:24 |
| elfy | thought that's what you said earlier | 21:24 |
| GridCube | http://goput.it/str/bims.png | 21:24 |
| GridCube | yes is white | 21:25 |
| elfy | ok | 21:25 |
| elfy | so where's the grey one come from? | 21:25 |
| elfy | I'm confused now :p | 21:26 |
| brainwash | well, it's just a minor theme glitch | 21:26 |
| brainwash | white pavucontrol doesn't even look bad, looks almost perfectly normal | 21:26 |
| elfy | yep still needs reporting though - and GridCube has issues reporting with ubuntu-bug - it thinks he's got ppa's in the a2 live image | 21:27 |
| GridCube | elfy, the grey is the way it used to look on 13.04 | 21:27 |
| elfy | which is weird as well | 21:27 |
| elfy | GridCube: I can't remember that far back :) | 21:27 |
| GridCube | and everytime before that | 21:27 |
| brainwash | run apt-cache policy xfdesktop4 | 21:27 |
| elfy | the sudoku thing is weird too | 21:28 |
| GridCube | brainwash, http://goput.it/7di8.png | 21:29 |
| GridCube | but maybe its because that box doesnt have a conection to the outside of the internet | 21:29 |
| GridCube | and can't download the apt lists | 21:29 |
| GridCube | ? | 21:30 |
| GridCube | xubuntu doesnt let people set up proxies in easy ways | 21:30 |
| brainwash | this would mean, that you cannot report anything via ubuntu-bug | 21:31 |
| GridCube | true. but why would it say, http://goput.it/hxv8.png | 21:31 |
| GridCube | it should says like "you are not connected to the internet" or something like that | 21:32 |
| elfy | Installed: 4.11.2-0ubuntu1 | 21:32 |
| elfy | Candidate: 4.11.2-0ubuntu1 | 21:32 |
| elfy | Version table: | 21:32 |
| elfy | *** 4.11.2-0ubuntu1 0 | 21:32 |
| elfy | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages | 21:32 |
| elfy | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 21:32 |
| elfy | oops | 21:32 |
| GridCube | /exec -o | 21:32 |
| elfy | is what I get in 64bit a2 | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: inxi -r lists no ppas? | 21:32 |
| brainwash | according to apt-cache it's listed a local package without repo source | 21:32 |
| GridCube | Unit193, i can't install inxi with no internet | 21:33 |
| GridCube | :P | 21:33 |
| GridCube | brainwash, then why i get that message then? | 21:33 |
| brainwash | maybe yet another bug | 21:33 |
| brainwash | I'm not familiar with ubuntu-bug | 21:33 |
| elfy | GridCube: what's the md5sum of the image? should be cafd1e7ea0ea269e732ec9302f467ad0 | 21:34 |
| GridCube | how do i get that | 21:35 |
| elfy | md5sum /path/to/the/download I guess | 21:36 |
| GridCube | mmm | 21:36 |
| GridCube | cafd1e7ea0ea269e732ec9302f467ad0 | 21:36 |
| GridCube | it looks the same | 21:36 |
| elfy | yep | 21:36 |
| elfy | just thought I'd ask :) | 21:37 |
| GridCube | :) | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: ...Did you copy all patches? Including wait-for-settings-manager.patch? brainwash wanted me to add that to test something, which it didn't fix. Might want to drop it. | 21:37 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, oh. I'll drop that one now | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Unless he says otherwise, yeah. | 21:37 |
| brainwash | mmh, right... eric did not respond yet with a new (working) patch | 21:38 |
| brainwash | the current one is harmless, does basically nothing | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | Yep, else I would have reverted it. | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Do you think this fix will land in xfdesktop or another package? | 21:42 |
| brainwash | in xfdesktop4 | 21:43 |
| elfy | back tomorrow | 21:50 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: is your xfce4-indicator-plugin package (PPA) built from git/master? | 22:15 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, no. 2.2.0 | 22:16 |
| brainwash | so we need to wait for a new release then, some issues have been fixed recently (occasionally missing indicator icons and widget management) | 22:17 |
| Noskcaj | ok. | 22:18 |
| Noskcaj | Still no news of a panel or garcon release either? | 22:18 |
| Noskcaj | I can make a git snapshot if we really need it though | 22:19 |
| brainwash | it would help testing the new stuff which will land eventually in trusty, but on the other hand.. we have almost no testers | 22:21 |
| Noskcaj | I think i'll leave it for official releases from now, or patches. the ubuntu devs are worried about 4.11 being unstable, let alone git snapshots | 22:22 |
| brainwash | yes | 22:23 |
| brainwash | but we will ship xfwm4 4.11 or? | 22:24 |
| brainwash | 4.11 already includes the needed patches for bug 1232804 | 22:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1232804 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Improve "login greeter -> desktop" transition in Xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232804 | 22:25 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, if possible | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | But no tabwin. :( | 22:25 |
| Noskcaj | i've got the branch up, just need to bride someone with upload rights. | 22:25 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, is tabwin able to be put in a release soon, or a least one, stable, patch? | 22:26 |
| brainwash | on top of that, the xfwm4 package requires to be build with MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP defined to actually enable the seamless transition | 22:26 |
| brainwash | it's not build that way by default | 22:26 |
| brainwash | and it's need to be tested of course, if it causes some unexpected trouble, we could disable it for the final release | 22:28 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, i'd rather not risk uploading stuff that might break, what could it break and what does it do normally? | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | Not sure if the issues I've had were with xfdesktop of xfwm, end up killing both. | 22:29 |
| brainwash | currently it doesn't break anything | 22:29 |
| brainwash | everything is patched to work properly | 22:30 |
| brainwash | xfwm 4.11 + xfdesktop 4.11 | 22:30 |
| brainwash | basically we need it to tested by a large group of people :/ | 22:31 |
| Noskcaj | I'd like to wait for more 4.11 stuff to land first, just so we know if it alone has bugs | 22:31 |
| brainwash | yes, but I'm afraid that a decision might get delayed until it's too late | 22:32 |
| brainwash | ali1234: ^ any thoughts? | 22:33 |
| Noskcaj | my suggestion is wait till early next month, since i should have upload rights then and we'll know if anything major has been broken | 22:34 |
| brainwash | can you subscribe to the linked bug report please? :) | 22:34 |
| brainwash | don't want to bother you with this over and over again, following the report should help instead | 22:35 |
| brainwash | GridCube: pavucontrol is mainly white in saucy with greybird from git, you should target your report against shimmer-themes | 22:39 |
| brainwash | but I assume that this is an intended change | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: thanks for the upload, looks like menulibre is in sid and trusty now :) | 23:13 |
| xnox | pleia2: knome: it was not stuck on a queue at all. new ubiquity in release pocket for 4 hours now. SO if a respin is done, it will be picked up. | 23:36 |
| xnox | not sure who / why unblocked it from -proposed. | 23:37 |
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