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adrenaline_I use unetbooten also for the record.00:17
adrenaline_sorry got pulled away to a meeting.00:18
holsteinadrenaline_: not for multibooting though, correct?00:23
adrenaline_Nope Actually when I can I used the Ubuntu disk utility because it has persistence up to 4Gig00:29
holsteinadrenaline_: does it support mulitbooting?00:29
adrenaline_I can do updates and it is also live so I can boot to it from where-ever00:30
adrenaline_no00:30
starratshello adrenaline00:30
holsteinadrenaline_: i hadnt checked it out in a while, and thought maybe it was added. which would make it a nice option00:31
adrenaline_I have used this before for multiboot00:31
adrenaline_http://sourceforge.net/projects/multisystem/00:31
holsteini thinks thats the one that linus was trying00:31
adrenaline_Oh is that pendrive?00:32
adrenaline_I went to 3 semesters of school using xubuntu on a persistent thumbdrive saving assignments and presentations and updating.00:33
adrenaline_I would boot it on the schools computer and all I had to carry around was the thumbdrive.00:34
xubuntu315hello00:46
ethermonkhi00:46
xubuntu315xubuntu is good for low spec machines?00:46
ethermonkyes00:46
holsteintry it live.. if the live CD will run, you will likely be fine with it installed00:46
xubuntu315is better than ubuntu for low spec right?00:46
ethermonkyes00:46
xubuntu315my pc is so bad, with 512 ram and low cpu to00:47
ethermonkit is ubuntu, but an ubuntu better for older/slow gear00:47
ethermonkit will run fine xubuntu31500:47
xubuntu315i have windows installed in my HD windows 7 but is so slowly :\ i need try something diferent00:47
ethermonkit will run better with xubuntu than on win700:47
holsteinthat can depend on driver support.. but, xubuntu is a fine choice for a machine of that spec..00:48
xubuntu315thanks for help me guys. tell me other thing please and sorry my english im portuguese, xubuntu have wireless drivers when installed? I have an asus eepc00:48
holsteinxubuntu315: the linux kernel is modular, and contains many drivers00:49
holsteinxubuntu315: it will depend on your particular hardware as to how the support is "out of the box"00:49
holsteintry it live, and see how the wifi works before installing00:49
holstein!wifi00:50
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:50
xubuntu315maybe is better if try live version then install with wubi right?00:50
holsteinxubuntu315: "better" is always a matter of opinion.. i dont prefer the wubi, but a wubi install can be removed from inside windows like an application00:51
ethermonkwith 512 RAM, run Live, do not use wubi00:52
xubuntu315yeah I know that. I only will use wubi because  Im ne in this "world" and I have "scare" If I make something wrong, just that00:52
xubuntu315new*00:53
holsteinxubuntu315: you should not be scared. you should be prepared00:53
holsteinxubuntu315: plan for failure, and have good backups, since *all* hard drives will fail00:53
ethermonkanything you dont want to lose, you should have backups of anyway. if you dont have backups, your asking for trouble no matter what your doing or safe it is deemed00:53
Unit193I'd personally recommend vbox over wubi.00:54
holsteini would want to have all my data safely backed up before doing any of these options.. other than just running a live CD to check it out00:54
* holstein +1 on vbox00:54
xubuntu315vbox? virtualobox?00:54
ethermonkyes00:54
Unit193Live is great,  will show you speedwise better than vbox, and wubi is just weird.00:55
ethermonki recommend Linux Live USB Creator for Windows. it creates bootable live linux disks and includes a virtual box app to make the USB device a virtual PC00:55
xubuntu315But why wubi is weird? Isnt just an installer?00:55
holsteinxubuntu315: no00:55
holstein!wubi00:55
ubottuWubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug00:55
ethermonkLiLi ftw00:56
holsteinxubuntu315: the end result is, basically, similar to an installed system, but not the same00:56
xubuntu315Hm ok, atm im downloading live version, after will burn at CD and try im my machine00:56
xubuntu315thanks all for help me00:56
dunpealHi folks. I'm running 13.04 and have the Nvidia binary driver installed. How do I remove it?01:00
holstein!nvidia01:00
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:00
holsteini think i just used "sudo apt-get autoremove nvidia*" ..but, you should be able to search "nvidia" in the package manager of your choice01:01
dunpealThe following packages will be REMOVED:01:02
Unit193ethermonk: LiLi++01:02
dunpeal  linux-headers-3.8.0-32 linux-headers-3.8.0-32-generic linux-image-3.8.0-32-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-32-generic nvidia-313-updates nvidia-common nvidia-settings-313-updates01:02
dunpealholstein: won't it be a problem if it removes my kernel? :)01:02
holsteindunpeal: i didnt suggest you remove your kernel01:02
dunpealoh, this is the old one01:03
dunpealbrb rebooting01:03
psooo1i have installed libr office from de software center, is it the latest version?01:29
psooo1* libre office01:29
holsteinpsooo1: it'll be the latest from the repos.. you can check "version" in a package manager or in the LO menu and check at the site and see01:30
holsteinpsooo1: there are usually ppa's to add newer versions, but, ubuntu locks most things at a version, frozen for that release01:30
Itsameprobably not01:30
psooo1so are you saying that i should stay with this release?01:31
Itsameyes just keep using this release. it's new enough01:31
psooo1thnks ;)01:31
Itsamewhich xubuntu are you running?01:31
psooo112.04.301:31
Itsameif you encounter problems or miss features you want, you could upgrade it with a PPA01:32
Itsamebut, well, it's office. it just works ;p01:32
psooo1with a PPA - sorry , but i dont understand...i am new in Linux...01:33
holstein!ppa | psooo101:34
ubottupsooo1: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:34
Itsameit's basically installing an app outside of the Ubuntu Software Center01:35
psooo1ok thnks, i think this release is fine...i only make the question coz i see version 3 of libre office and in website i see 4....versions01:35
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa if you want/need a newer01:36
Itsameah very good01:36
psooo1you also recommend me to stay with this one, right?01:38
Itsameyes if you don't mind on having the newest cutting edge features01:39
psooo1yes i think not01:41
psooo1i have microsoft office also01:41
psooo1but with a little problem...too. Can i transfer updates to from microsoft center ?01:42
Itsameyou run microsoft office with wine?01:42
psooo1yes01:42
Itsamewell try out if that works :)01:42
ItsameI'm not sure how the update process works01:42
Itsamemaybe someone else can help out on this matter01:43
holsteinnothing about linux prevents microsoft from allowing you to do that.. or prevents them from offically supporting linux01:43
psooo1i am affraid of something to crash...install it has given a lot of work...and i dont know if i remember all the steps...01:43
holsteinif you are running in wine, you are not running it in a way that microsoft likely officially supports01:44
psooo1yes thats the question01:44
holsteinpsooo1: sure.. but the answer is just that.. you are not following the intended use case, so, you have to provide your own support01:45
psooo1do you think a crash could happen?01:46
psooo1if i try to download updates from microsfot website?01:46
holsteinpsooo1: its a computer.. i think a crash can happen if you were using it as intended01:46
psooo1i think the risk is high01:48
holsteinpsooo1: risk? you are not using the product as intended..01:48
psooo1i only think in that because excel has a little bug...01:48
psooo1but i even dont know if it is an update reason01:49
psooo1yes, i think that because of that - i am not using the product as intended01:50
psooo1so it can happen something that crashes te installation01:50
starratsprefers Apache Open Office over MS office, IMO02:11
sixpackHi all I am having a heck of a time trying to install xubuntu 13.10 on an old pc03:59
holsteinsixpack: how old? maybe its not supporting linux?04:00
holstein!nomodeset | sixpack can be helpful04:00
ubottusixpack can be helpful: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:00
sixpackit loads and just goes to a black screen with a mouse cursor and flashes between black and just a mouse cursor04:00
holstein!mini | sixpack this can also help get a base on the machine, and get started04:00
ubottusixpack this can also help get a base on the machine, and get started: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:00
sixpackyes I tried that setting but it still does the same thing04:00
holsteinsixpack: then, it could be a bad iso, or bad media04:01
sixpackI dont have internet connection on this old pc04:01
sixpackhmm never thought of that04:01
holsteinsixpack: i have also seen bad older optical drives04:01
sixpackis there a way to check the dvd04:01
sixpackyes thats what happend at first.. it was a crappy old dvdrom04:01
holsteinsixpack: there is an integreity check built into the disc.. or04:01
holstein!md504:01
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:01
holsteinsixpack: could be other hardware failing as well..04:02
sixpackok.. let me check the dvd and is there any other setting I could use to boot besides nomodeset?04:03
sixpackbrb I am only using one monitor for both of my systems.. thanks for your help so far!04:04
sixpackok its checking the dvd now04:06
holsteinsixpack: you can use the mini iso, and see if the alternate installs04:06
sixpackright I had to use the alternet one before on my laptop I guess if none of this works that will be what I will try next04:06
holsteinyou can test, and rule out issues, and go from there.. if its grahpics card related, you can always install the mini and uprade, and use an xorg.conf that forces the vesa driver04:07
holsteinsixpack: i usually try and boot *any* live CD.. even a knoppix live CD can tell you what grahpics driver is possible, or at least help you determine what ubuntu needs04:07
sixpackya I have knoppix.. damn I never even thought of that.. I didnt bother because XP works fine on this system04:09
sixpackok it said the dvd is good04:09
holsteinsixpack: the Xp support is quite irrelevant04:11
holsteinsixpack: the drivers there wont support linux, so you can just move on to the knoppix.. if it boots, you can grab the xorg.conf from that live session, and try it in xubuntu04:11
sixpackok I am booting into knoppix now04:16
sixpackalright knoppix works fine...04:16
sixpackhow do I get the xorg.conf?04:17
holsteinsixpack: should be in the normal place.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:18
sixpackok so I copied to a usb04:24
sixpackhow do I use it in the boot menu of xubuntu04:24
sixpackok I give up on the main install... where do I find the alternate version for 13.10? all I can find is the alternate for the 12.0404:38
sixpackhello?04:41
sixpackok I cant find the alternate cd or mini cd for xubuntu.. anyone have a hint?04:45
sixpackwell I guess I am going to try the 12.04 alternate cd04:46
sixpackI have always had such problems installing ubuntu yeesh, the only reason I use it is because it has the best support and compatability.. but now I am not so sure04:47
Sysiam I still supposed to use gksu(do) to run graphical programs on 13.10 because it's not installed by default, or is sudo good now?08:45
Unit193pkexec is the new tool, which doesn't work.  I still use gksudo, but sudo -i foo  is an option.08:47
Sysiguell I'll keep using sudo -i08:48
BugariHey guys, I have quite weird problem - i cannot use alt+tab, i broke it somehow, i guess.. alt+shift+tab works as it should.09:15
littlebithi people, I have installed xubuntu 13.04 and I have always  in the top left corner of my desktop I have an icon of the startup menu always there. does anyone know how to remove it?09:56
cublittlebit, can't you just right click it and choose "Remove"?10:15
littlebitcub: it is like a picture bug that wont go away10:18
cublittlebit, hmm I don't understand then. can you make a screenshot?10:18
BugariDoes any one know, how to restore alt+tab functionality? alt+shift+tab works as it supposed to, alt+tab does not..10:26
littlebitcub: ok10:41
littlebitcub: here u go http://imagebin.org/28811210:45
denis__allo10:52
cfhowlettdenis__, greetings10:53
denis__Je suis nouveau ici10:53
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denis__merci10:54
uflaighello, I have a problem with my mic which has not been solved till this very day, can somebody help me out? Apparently I'm getting no input on Skype or Teamspeak10:57
uflaignot sure what I could do10:58
cublittlebit, wow, sorry no idea about that one. :)11:04
cubhang around and someone else might know11:04
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Monkeytoehello13:07
MonkeytoeI am trying to do an apt-get upgrade on my xubuntu 13.10 desktop. It is giving me this error.13:08
MonkeytoeReading package lists... Done13:08
MonkeytoeW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 981605430AE7FCDA13:08
MonkeytoeWhat do I do? :)13:08
exacthi, guys can anyone help me ? installed 13.10 xubuntu and after installing any videodriver I have blackscreen after reboot. Pls help13:19
baizonMonkeytoe: add the key13:21
baizonMonkeytoe: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware13:22
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pc-02_hello, can someone help me fix Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/nvidia-settings" (No such file or directory)17:31
pc-02_i cant open X17:31
pc-02_X Server Settings*17:31
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bingois command to reinstall it?17:34
geniibingo: Might want to try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-settings17:36
bingoty trying17:37
bingo  nvidia-settings-30417:37
bingoThe following NEW packages will be installed:17:37
bingo  nvidia-settings nvidia-settings-30417:37
bingohope it wont uninstall 319 driver17:38
bingoyes it works! ty genii17:38
GolynxHi guys. Does the LAMP stack work in Xubuntu ? Also will my code be highlighted in gedit in Xubuntu. I wana switch from unity.17:40
SysiGolynx: everything should work as it works on other *buntus17:47
GolynxSysi thanks . That is great to know :)17:48
GolynxSysi are you sure all my data and programs will be available in Xfce desktop when i install xubuntu-desktop from Unity ?18:31
Sysiyes18:31
Golynxawesome thanks18:31
netskyif i change panel settings in xfce session, will they be reflected in xubuntu session too?18:53
brainwashnetsky: yes, both sessions share the same user config files18:55
netskylet me be more specific - i want to change xfce panel and don't want it to alter my xubuntu panel settings - but that is not possible, right?18:57
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brainwashnot sure if there is an built in way to do it19:03
xubuntu114Hello to everyone from Greece. I am trying to install Xubuntu 13.10 on an LG P1 Express Dual Laptop and after booting from the live dvd, my keyboard stops functioning. That is, I cannot type anything. If I use an external USB keyboard, it works. Is there any workaround to this problem? Thanks in advance.19:05
pitchdark13.10 question - After upgrading ubuntu (not xubuntu) from 13.04 to 13.10, I experienced so many issues that I decided to switch to xubuntu 13.04.  Are there any strong reasons for upgrading a solid working 13.04 xubuntu to 13.10?19:25
Myrttiother than getting security updates and being able to update to 14.04 in a few months?19:26
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xubuntu114Hello to everyone from Greece. I am trying to install Xubuntu 13.10 on an LG P1 Express Dual Laptop and after booting from the live dvd, my keyboard stops functioning. That is, I cannot type anything. If I use an external USB keyboard, it works. Is there any workaround to this problem? Thanks in advance.19:43
xubuntu337default file permissions19:45
xubuntu337how do you set default file permissions for x11 applications19:45
georgchrHello everybody19:51
elfygeorgchr: hello - if you've a question, then ask it - you'll find out if someone know's an answer then19:54
georgchrAlright so.19:54
georgchrI am trying to find out how to set default file permissions for X11 applications.19:55
koegshm?19:55
georgchr_*19:57
georgchr_I want permissions rw-r----- (640 octal)19:57
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georgchr_Evolution mailer stores new mail messages  with permissions rw------- (600 octal)19:58
georgchr_changing umask in .profile, .bash_profile, /etc/login.defs doesn't change behaviour of Evolution19:59
georgchr_+20:00
bekksgeorgchr_: If thats hardcoded in evolution, no umask will change it.20:00
georgchr_Is that a fact that it is hardcoded?20:01
bekksI havent used evolution for a decade now, I dont know.20:01
georgchr_I found a suggestion for gdm display manager (which xubuntu does not use) to set umask in the Xsession file20:02
georgchr_I can't find an Xsession file under /etc/lightdm/20:03
georgchr_Any suggestions where you could try to insert a "umask ..." line for Xubuntu / lightdm ?20:04
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georgchr_BB, g2g21:11
xubuntu367i cant figure out how to make my screen brighter21:11
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xubuntu367im new to the the laptop and ubuntu and cannot figure out to make the screen brighter any herlp21:13
pitchdarkscreen brightness should be controlled by a FN + key press combination21:39
adrenaline_I don't have xubuntu in front of me but i think if you go to the menu then system settings then power then look and see what the settings are for brightness.21:41
xubuntu367how do u set up a wifi connection22:21
Noskcajxubuntu367, As in connect to an existing network?22:23
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