[04:55] <nuvolari> o/ mornings :)
[04:56] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell kilos morning oom :)
[04:56] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:10] <trender> anybody alive ?
[05:11] <trender> good morning hello and so on
[05:15] <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and others
[05:15] <trender> yo kilos
[05:15] <trender> ova here dude
[05:16] <Kilos> hi trender 
[05:47] <inetpro> good morning
[05:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[05:55] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:55]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[05:55] <Kilos> hmm...
[05:56] <Kilos> slowcoach
[05:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:00] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[06:00] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:02] <Kilos> wbb
[06:10] <Squirm> morning
[06:10] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:10]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[06:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[06:24] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:24] <Kilos> :-)
[06:27] <superfly> hi Kilos
[06:28] <Kilos> hows superfly today
[06:28] <Kilos> i wanted to ask you something but forgot what now
[06:28] <Kilos> sigh
[06:28] <Kilos> oh ya
[06:29] <superfly> Kilos: I'm OK. still recovering from food poisoning
[06:29] <Kilos> ouch what food this time?
[06:29] <Kilos> from same place as last time superfly ?
[06:30] <Kilos> have you a link for me on whats our settings would be in minicom or is it when they say normally i must choose that option
[06:31] <Kilos> ek sukkel bietjie met die modem goed
[06:32] <Kilos> i think its mainly because voda on one and cellc on ians are read only stuff every after doing upgrades
[06:34] <Kilos> s/every/even
[06:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.facebook.com/ThatGraemeGuy/activity/10151838483830925
[06:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Kilos, everyone
[06:46] <superfly> Kilos: set your baud rate to 115200, and leave everything else
[06:46] <Kilos> ok ty superfly 
[07:05] <Kilos> hi somaunn 
[07:07] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[07:19] <somaunn> what's new here
[07:19] <Kilos> same stuff , different day
[07:22] <Vince-0> !
[07:22] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:30] <Vince-0> sup
[07:30] <Vince-0> any pretentious noobs yet today?
[07:30] <Kilos> lol no
[07:34] <Kilos> i think he will settle down with 12.04 xfce and realise where he went wrong 
[07:42] <somaunn> Kilos: what to expect from 14.04
[07:43] <somaunn> ?
[07:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:54] <Kilos> less rain and more heat
[07:54] <Kilos> and more floods in some places
[08:32] <Golynx> Hi Kilos , when a package is marked for upgrade in synaptic can it be unmarked.
[08:33] <Kilos> right click on it and see options
[08:34] <Golynx> It gives options for removal and upgrade
[08:35] <Kilos> ai!
[08:35] <Kilos> is it a big one
[08:35] <Golynx> Xfce 4.8 was the default that came with ubuntu 12.04. I added the newer version of Xfce 4.10 that has UI improvements
[08:36] <Kilos> anjd is that what wants to upgrade?
[08:36] <Golynx> I checked update and now it has 158MB to upgrade
[08:36] <Kilos> and
[08:36] <Kilos> yeah well its a complete new gui
[08:37] <Kilos> how did you add the later version
[08:37] <Golynx> I'm not sure if it will work with my pc though
[08:37] <Kilos> what was wrong with the old xfe
[08:38] <Kilos> xfce
[08:38] <Golynx> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.10 -y && sudo apt-get update
[08:39] <Golynx> I didnt install it yet
[08:39] <Kilos> then you gonna have upgrades on all the necessary packages it uses
[08:39] <Kilos> otherwise remove it and stay with the old one
[08:40] <Kilos> and go into update manager settins and untick that ppa
[08:41] <Kilos> normally later version work a bit better but they are mainly for later ubuntu releases
[08:41] <Kilos> you can end up with lotsa prob sorting all the settings
[08:41] <Golynx> Ya Xfce 4.10 is default in 12.10
[08:42] <Golynx> So its safe to remove the PPA i added to the repo's
[08:42] <Kilos> if 12.04 had a later version it would show in update/upgrade command
[08:42] <Kilos> untick it thats all
[08:43] <Kilos> sometimes ppa's are good and othertimes they make you old quick
[08:44] <Golynx> 12.04 only has Xfce 4.8 . WHen i did the PPA it showed 4.10 in Latest Version box with the upgrade checked
[08:44] <Golynx> lol
[08:44] <Kilos> first get used to a system bnefore you try improve it
[08:45] <Kilos> before
[08:45] <Golynx> Ai 
[08:48] <Golynx> Ok i unticked the 4.10 PPA should i update again ?
[08:49] <Kilos> try that and see then if they dont show as upgradeable in synaptic
[08:49] <Golynx> Ok
[08:51] <Kilos> maybe you need to close and reopen synaptic firstr
[08:51] <Kilos> ai!
[08:51] <Kilos> first
[08:53] <Golynx> lol, i now dont make that mistake again
[08:54] <Kilos> good
[08:54] <Golynx> But Xfce 4.10 is gone now in synaptic ty
[08:54] <Kilos> cool
[08:55] <Golynx> It shows green and the old 4.8 installed
[08:55] <Kilos> yay
[08:55] <Golynx> I guess thats all i need. Take what the repo's suggests
[08:56] <Kilos> i made the same mistake doing ppa with kde. it works kiff after about 3 days of trying to fix all the setting and stuff
[08:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:56] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[08:59] <Golynx> Thats good Kilos
[09:00] <Golynx> Hi magespawn
[09:00] <Kilos> but wasnt worth the effort
[09:50] <Private_User> good day all
[09:50] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[09:51] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[09:54] <magespawn> hi Golynx 
[09:59] <Golynx> Hi Private_User
[10:00] <Private_User> hi Golynx 
[10:00] <magespawn> hey Private_User 
[10:00] <Private_User> hey magespawn 
[10:02] <Private_User> anybody here used the application Process Hacker?
[11:26] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[11:27] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[11:37] <Private_User> hey anybody here know how to remove the "uTorrentControl_v2 Toolbar" from my machine?
[11:37] <Private_User> my windows machine that is
[11:38] <Kilos> boot from an ubuntu cd and choose erase and install
[11:38]  * Kilos ducks
[11:38] <Private_User> I have tried uninstalling via control panel but it does nothing
[11:39] <Kilos> cant you open my computer
[11:39] <Kilos> then right click c:
[11:39] <Kilos> and find it in there and delete it?
[11:39] <Kilos> right click explore i think it is
[11:40] <Kilos> then run chkdsk to sort the probs
[11:41] <Kilos> or use ccleaner
[11:41] <Private_User> ok let me try that I just managed to disable it from chrome
[11:41] <Private_User> thanks
[11:42] <Kilos> hope it helps
[11:42] <Kilos> get ccleaner it speeds up the pc lots
[11:48] <Private_User> ok cool let me try that
[11:49] <Private_User> I have been having issues with this machine since morning
[11:49] <Kilos> does more than just registry probs
[11:49] <Kilos> run antivirus
[11:49] <Private_User> but is it free?
[11:49] <Kilos> what?
[11:49] <Kilos> ccleaner is free ya
[11:50] <Kilos> and avast antivirus and zonealarm firewall
[11:50] <Kilos> avg kills pc speed
[11:51] <Private_User> ok I am using Comodo antivirus
[11:51] <Kilos> ah ok
[11:51] <Kilos> havent had experience with that
[11:52] <Private_User> I cannot wait to change this Laptop OS to Ubuntu but have to wait until I can get an external HDD to back-up my stuff before I can cause its alot
[11:52] <Kilos> hey magespawn hows things
[11:52] <Kilos> ?
[11:52] <Kilos> whew
[11:53] <Kilos> what size one you want to get
[12:00] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:27] <nuvolari> anyone working for afrihost?
[12:28] <nuvolari> hopefully not. I'm feeling for anyone that does
[12:31] <Private_User> lol @ nuvolari you are feeling for an afrihost employee?
[12:31] <Private_User> HAHAHA
[12:31] <magespawn> lol
[12:32] <magespawn> later all got to go put up a wifi tower
[12:32] <nuvolari> I just don't want to badmouth before I know who's working there :P
[12:33] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[12:39] <Private_User> brb
[13:52] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[14:24] <Private_User> anybody else here experiencing connectivity issues?
[14:25] <Private_User> I am using a Cell C 3G connection and have been experiencing connectivity issues the whole day
[14:26] <Private_User> or is it just my laptop and usb dongle?
[14:27] <trender> Private_User dude just ping to stay alive on 3g network
[14:27] <trender> isp closes inactive 3g connections
[14:28] <Private_User> is it, even if I am connected to IRC and my email and skype?
[14:28] <trender> depends on your trafic dude
[14:28] <Private_User> ah ok
[14:29] <trender> i wrote a batch file to ping google every 5 seconds to stop this dissconnection
[14:29] <Private_User> ok maybe will give that a try
[14:29] <trender> worth a shot
[14:29] <Private_User> thanks trender 
[14:30] <trender> it worked for a chick in PTA
[14:30] <trender> she get dissed every 5 minutes
[14:30] <trender> but i think it has something to do with the modem as well
[14:31] <trender> 3g is more stable if you get your modem from the isp for some reason :)
[14:31] <trender> just a theory ;)
[14:31] <Private_User> ok thanks will try it
[14:32] <trender> you dont need to ping hard at all either
[14:34] <trender> mabee the icasa approved sticker on the modem improves the quality of service :D
[14:55] <Vince-0> !
[15:05] <Kilos> Maaz, seen inetpro 
[15:05] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 9 hours, 17 minutes and 27 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-01-23 07:47:46 SAST], and has been online on freenode since 2014-01-22 17:01:52 SAST
[15:08] <inetpro> Kilos: Maaz is lying, I was here all day
[15:09] <Kilos> ya but lurking
[15:09] <Kilos> afternoon sir
[15:09] <inetpro> doesn't mean I'm not here :-)
[15:09] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[15:09] <Kilos> hehe
[15:10] <Kilos> are you prepared for tuesdays meeting?you and fly have to give guidance
[15:15] <inetpro> the fly has to tell whether he is still ready for it
[16:13]  * Golynx wants the world free from flies and mosquitos
[16:22] <Kilos> not our fly
[16:22] <Kilos> he is the man
[16:25] <Golynx> lol , the other flies 
[16:25] <Kilos> ya they are pests
[16:25] <Golynx> I wana make an electronic fly repellent 
[16:25] <Golynx> Only need a few components though
[16:26] <Kilos> you need to be clever for that to find the frequency they vibrate at
[16:26] <Kilos> if not exact they will ignore it
[16:27] <Golynx> When i was young i used to take apart old hifi's and radios, then went to the library on books about electronics. I buit some great stuff. Like flashing lights and traffic lights lol
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <Kilos> when you were young?
[16:28] <Golynx> Ya they cant stand frequencies between 30 and 40 khz 
[16:28] <Kilos> how old are you now
[16:28] <Golynx> Almost 30 
[16:29] <Golynx> I was about 12 back then
[16:29] <Kilos> wow old man
[16:29] <Kilos> my son is 38
[16:29] <Golynx> lol, ya i feel old due to my lung condition
[16:30] <Golynx> I'm sure your son feels young
[16:30] <Kilos> what condition
[16:30] <Kilos> he was near dead a year ago
[16:31] <Kilos> got a virus in lungs and didnt get oxygen in because lungs were crystalizing
[16:31] <Golynx> no right lung function and brain not getting enough oxygen
[16:31] <Golynx> oh thats bad hopes his ok now
[16:31] <Kilos> yeah he found a good doctor
[16:32] <Kilos> used his own blood to innoculate him with and made the lungs recover to over 60% now
[16:32] <Golynx> How do lungs crystalize
[16:32] <Kilos> were down at 20%
[16:32] <Golynx> Wow thats good
[16:33] <Golynx> His lucky 
[16:33] <Kilos> he was told it would take 2 years to recover full function
[16:33] <Kilos> whats you prob
[16:34] <Golynx> I'm too afraid to go to the doctor. 
[16:34] <Golynx> Dont wana hear the bad news
[16:35] <Golynx> So i just diagnosed myself
[16:35] <Kilos> no man fool
[16:35] <Kilos> the longer you leave lung probs the worse they get
[16:36] <trender> Golynx dude are you a smoker ?
[16:36] <Kilos> ians doc is a md with homeopathy as well
[16:38] <Kilos> homeopathic drops and the self innoculations every month changed him completely
[16:38] <Kilos> but R500 a month
[16:38] <Kilos> normal doctors gave him only months left to live
[16:39] <Golynx> Honestly, it started 2 years ago. I had a burning stinging feeling in my right lung, after 2 days i got sick. Next week later i couldnt breath properly. As time went by i felt my right rib cage colapsing. So then my energy loss began and i started to lose alot of weight. Didnt wanted to goto the doctor and still dont 
[16:39] <Golynx> I stopped smoking 4 years ago trender
[16:40] <Kilos> i think ian said his doc has a partner or something in capetown
[16:40] <Kilos> you should make a plan
[16:41] <Kilos> but not by normal docs
[16:41] <Golynx> Its ok Kilos dont worry yourself. I dont care when i die :)
[16:42] <Kilos> dying by bullet or accident is fine but not by getting too little oxygen
[16:42] <Kilos> you are supposed to get rich with your web designing remember
[16:42] <trender> Golynx dude i had bad lung issues swimming fixed it all up ive had pnumonia about 6 times as well when my lungs was tested while i was a cyclist i was told my lungs are now about 50% better then average people i went from basket case to being able to swim 2 lenghts underwater in a full size pool
[16:43] <trender> Golynx perception is reality...never assume the worst...we are more then the body..end off
[16:43] <Golynx> Ah thats great trender i'm happy for you man 
[16:44] <Golynx> Yes Kilos i know
[16:44] <Golynx> Thanks trender wise words
[16:45] <Golynx> I will go for a checkup next month when i got the money
[16:46] <Kilos> secret to life is to never give up
[16:47] <Golynx> I guess when you got alot of future plans , you cant afford to damage your most valuable tool
[16:48] <Kilos> yp
[16:49] <Golynx> My mom works at a doctors office lol . How stupid am i ?
[16:49] <Kilos> do you really want us to answer that?
[16:50] <Golynx> No not really , but i can guess :)
[16:50] <Kilos> get the lungs xrayed and whatever they do, then plan strategy from there
[16:50] <Kilos> hehe
[16:51] <Golynx> Ya the xray is long overdue. 
[16:52] <Kilos> could just be a virus that you are leaving to take control
[16:53] <Golynx> I always drank about 4 litres of water a day. I read on google that water gets on the lung and constricts it. Saw some freaky xrays of people with tiny little lung . The water has to be pumped out in such a case
[16:53] <Kilos> if you want to see what its like to die from min air go see a bad emphysemia patient
[16:54] <Kilos> not pleasant
[16:54] <Golynx> Ya i bet thats painful 
[16:55] <Golynx> brain cells die at a rapid rate. One lose memories and normal mental function. Its like a slow torture .
[16:55] <Kilos> yip
[16:56] <superfly> Golynx: i have asthma, it's about R600 to see the doctor and get the lung test done
[16:57] <Kilos> superfly, have you planned some strategy for the internet part of the meeting?
[16:57] <Golynx> Hi superfly, thats alot. Its here about R200 for the checkup 
[16:57] <superfly> no, i haven't had any down time yet
[16:58] <superfly> Golynx: yeah. my checkup is 300 and the lung test is the rest
[16:58] <Kilos> well if the main plan is there in your head one can do it on the fly i spose
[16:58] <superfly> Kilos: when is the meeting?
[16:59] <Kilos> tuesday night superfly 
[16:59] <Golynx> oh ok superfly. 
[16:59] <Kilos> 20.30
[17:00] <Golynx> 1 hour before bedtime :) 
[17:01] <superfly> Kilos: gotcha
[17:04] <Kilos> there must be a govt medical clinic there Golynx they do basic checks and even supply transport to main hospitals for expert diagnoses and so on
[17:07] <Golynx> Ya here is a clinic Kilos. Its about a 5 min walk away
[17:08] <Golynx> But will see the doctor in town
[17:09] <Kilos> clinics are free i think
[17:10] <Kilos> local docs dont normally have all the facilities to do whats needed
[17:10] <Kilos> clinics refer you to the relevant docs
[17:13] <Golynx> When i was in Paarl from rib damage due to a fight. I payed R20 at the hospital , got lungs scanned too.
[17:22] <Golynx> Night guys, take care
[17:23] <Kilos> sjoe rough one
[18:45] <inetpro> good evening
[18:46] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[18:49] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:49] <inetpro> looks like you guys are all sick in here
[18:49] <Kilos> lol yeah
[18:50] <Kilos> but we can look forward to recovering , what you gonna do
[18:50]  * inetpro slowly but surely getting back my energy levels
[18:51] <Kilos> good
[18:51] <inetpro> you have to spend some energy to get more back
[18:51] <Kilos> its healthy to be fit
[18:51] <inetpro> and now going almost two weeks without coffee
[18:52] <Kilos> healthier but a nice cuppa is hard to give up
[18:52] <Kilos> you drink green tea now?
[18:53] <Kilos> or rooibos
[18:56] <inetpro> rooibos
[18:56] <inetpro> stopped drinking coffee gradually starting from the beginning of january
[18:56] <inetpro> last week was tough
[18:58] <Kilos> yeah its a drug
[18:58] <inetpro> don't plan to stop entirely in the end but just want a period of three weeks of no coffee
[18:58] <Kilos> but a lekker drug
[18:58] <inetpro> used to drink at least 5 cups a day
[18:58] <Kilos> best coffee is cyber coffee
[18:58] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:58]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:58] <inetpro> need to scale it down to 2 a day when I drink it again
[18:59] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:59] <Maaz> inetpro: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[18:59] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[18:59] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[18:59] <inetpro> :-)
[18:59] <inetpro> can't just drink rooibos all day
[19:00] <Kilos> nope
[19:00] <Kilos> alsdo coke not too good for you
[19:00] <Kilos> drink liquifruit
[19:00] <inetpro> true
[19:00] <Kilos> or tropica peach
[19:00] <inetpro> they all expensive these days
[19:00] <Kilos> yeah
[19:01] <Kilos> but water isnt lekker
[19:01] <Kilos> and fish do ugly things in it
[19:01] <inetpro> costs more to drink juice than to put fuel in the car
[19:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:02] <Kilos> i dunno what stuff costs even anymore
[19:02] <Kilos> or tastes like
[19:02] <inetpro> even coke is cheaper than juice
[19:02] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[19:03] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[19:03] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[19:03] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[19:03] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[19:04] <Kilos> i would still love to get his data base
[19:11] <inetpro> good night everyone
[19:13] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[19:13] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight