[00:00] <BobJonkman> #startmeeting Ubuntu Canada Video Chat for 23 January 2014
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[00:00] <BobJonkman> Meeting's on!  Roll call: dscassel mainmeister katherineB aruna_ mars dougdastew1 FiReSTaRT DarwinSurvivor bregma BobJonkman jaguar zul laurelrusswurm1 jlamothe johanbr IdleOne azend|vps Chex ryanakca  samthetechie sipherdee greeter cyphermox azend  txwikinger2
[00:00] <BobJonkman> Hello Everybody!
[00:01] <dscassel> Hi BobJonkman!
[00:01] <BobJonkman> This meeting is also on the Google Hangout at URL https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpj7lt99uvi3m8iirprakd4g?hl=en
[00:01] <BobJonkman> Come join us there if you can
[00:02] <bregma> you can adjust your bandwidth with the little star-step tool
[00:02] <BobJonkman> So let's start with some introductions
[00:02] <BobJonkman> #topic Introductinos
[00:03] <aruna_> BobJonkman:Sounds Great see you there :-)
[00:03] <BobJonkman> I'm Bob Jonkman from Elmira, just north of Waterloo
[00:04] <dscassel> Hi, I'm Darcy in Waterloo.  I'm also a co-contact, although I've been seriously slacking off lately.  Thanks, Bob!
[00:04] <katherineB> Hi! I'm Katherine in Waterloo.
[00:06] <BobJonkman> Online we also have Aruna, dscassel, David, John, Doug, Jeff, John, Stephen and William
[00:07] <aruna_> Hi Katherine welcome
[00:07] <dougdastew1> Hi I'm Doug from London ont.
[00:07] <katherineB> Hi aruna_
[00:07] <aruna_> Hi Doug welcome
[00:08] <CrankyOldBugger> helloooooo
[00:08] <aruna_> Hi Jeff
[00:08] <aruna_> hell-ooooh
[00:08] <aruna_> :)
[00:08] <BobJonkman> We're joined by Ron from Maryland LoCO
[00:09] <BobJonkman> #topic Events
[00:09] <BobJonkman> Lots of events on the agenda
[00:09] <BobJonkman> Lets start past Events
[00:09] <BobJonkman> #subtopic Past Events
[00:10] <BobJonkman> Aruna's Ubuntu Hour in Toronto
[00:11] <bregma> hey guys, using headphones will prevent the delay feedback, just so you know for next time
[00:11] <BobJonkman> Aruna explains the reason for holding Ubuntu Hours. Getting people to particate
[00:11] <BobJonkman> We had a lot of fun, so it was a successful Ubuntu Hour
[00:13] <BobJonkman> Kitchener Ubuntu Hours?
[00:13] <BobJonkman> None in January, but maybe in February
[00:14] <bregma> control-D will toggle the microphone nute
[00:14] <bregma> Mute*
[00:14] <BobJonkman> (asking people to mute mics when not speaking)
[00:14] <BobJonkman> Ubuntu Hour Toronto pictures at http://pix.ie/ubuntuca/album/482290/detailed
[00:15] <BobJonkman> I don't know what the Ubuntu Development Sprint is, and noone else seems to know
[00:15] <BobJonkman> #subtopic Upcoming events
[00:15] <aruna_> Bob is explaining about upcoming events on the video chat
[00:15] <genii> Luckily I had a headset
[00:15] <aruna_> me too :)
[00:15] <BobJonkman> App Developer Week is on now
[00:16] <BobJonkman> Lots of people would like to participate, but they're not programmers.
[00:17] <aruna_> hey Katherine and Doug ask away if you guys have questions
[00:17] <aruna_> Saturday is Ubuntu User Days
[00:18] <aruna_> Ubuntu User days are information sessions
[00:18] <BobJonkman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays are online courses
[00:19] <BobJonkman> Ubuntu Developer Summit
[00:20] <BobJonkman> Also an online session, using Google Hangouts
[00:20] <BobJonkman> http://uds.ubuntu.com/ but that site hasn't been updated for this year yet
[00:20] <BobJonkman> bregma says it will probably be in February
[00:21] <pirivan> the hangout is full, I can't join :(
[00:21] <aruna_> pirivan: hold on let me leave so yo0u can join
[00:21] <BobJonkman> Roundtable discussions on upcoming features
[00:21] <aruna_> 1 sec
[00:22] <BobJonkman> Phone and Cloud discussions, talking about convergence
[00:22] <pirivan> aruna_, why do you want to leave?
[00:22] <katherineB> How many people can be in the hangout
[00:22] <aruna_> pirivan: so you can JOIN my friend
[00:22] <BobJonkman> I think 10 people is the max
[00:22] <aruna_> maximum TEN I belive katherine
[00:23] <dscassel> I'll be having to leave soon so there'll be a space opening.
[00:23] <pirivan> nope, still full
[00:23] <aruna_> no darcy stick around
[00:23] <aruna_> you can add value where as I have little
[00:24] <aruna_> pirivan: try now
[00:24] <pirivan> I'm in!
[00:24] <aruna_> Yaaay !
[00:24] <aruna_> gud stuff n pls pay attention
[00:25] <dscassel> I'm out, so there's another spot open if someone wants in.
[00:26] <BobJonkman> Darcy has just left, but hopes to have a Trusty Tahr release party
[00:26] <aruna_> oki
[00:26] <ronswift_> someone can also take my spot
[00:26] <BobJonkman> genii will be holding a URP in Toronto on the day of release
[00:26] <ronswift_> bye
[00:26] <BobJonkman> I'm hoping we'll Global Jam in Computer Recycling in Kitchener
[00:26] <aruna_> thanks for dropping by Ron
[00:29] <BobJonkman> genii suggests having simul-parties so we communicate on IRC and video
[00:32] <BobJonkman> I'm explaining that Release Parties are social events for me, but they can also be installfests or educational events
[00:34] <BobJonkman> We're talking about the direction of ubuntu, and what we're running on our own desktops
[00:34] <aruna_> Katherine do u have a webcam and mic+headset dear
[00:35] <aruna_> Please feel free to ask away everyone here is friendly and helpful
[00:35] <katherineB> I can't afford to upgrade from dialup.  That's why I don't try to use video from home.
[00:36] <aruna_> your on dial-up ? yikes
[00:36] <aruna_> we have to do some thing about that :)
[00:36] <katherineB> Yeah. I know. Yeech!
[00:36] <aruna_> LOL its not dat bad
[00:37] <katherineB> A job that pays enough to live on is what will free me!
[00:37] <aruna_> join the club hun
[00:37] <aruna_> have faith
[00:38] <aruna_> never lose faith or give up
[00:38] <katherineB> Faith is taking a long time to do any good.
[00:38] <BobJonkman> Talking about the other events...
[00:39] <BobJonkman> John says he's running CrunchBang on an old laptop, wiht low resources
[00:39] <BobJonkman> I didn't know #! was an Ubuntu Derivative
[00:40] <BobJonkman> bregma and John are swapping stories about the EEE PC and the pre-formatted SSD drive
[00:41] <BobJonkman> John mentions Bohdi Linux
[00:41] <bregma> it's just an SD card, not an SSD
[00:41] <BobJonkman> Pedro has Bohdi on an tiny old computer
[00:42] <bregma> the system was read-only with a unionfs overlay, so you could never actually delete any files and eventually you'd run out of disk space and need to reformat
[00:42] <bregma> and the keyboards were so cheap the keys always fell off when my kids used the machines
[00:43] <dougdastew1> try now I just left
[00:44] <dougdastew1> try now
[00:46] <genii> BobJonkman: Tenant came down to my office complaining of wino in the driveway, had to go wake him up and send him on his way
[00:47] <BobJonkman> #topic Other Stuff
[00:51] <BobJonkman> Ubuntu presence on Social Media channels like StatusNet, Twitter, Facebook, &c
[00:52] <BobJonkman> I've got some of it covered on StatusNet: http://sn.jonkman.ca/group/ubuntuca
[00:52] <CrankyOldBugger> is that what I said??
[00:52] <BobJonkman> and http://sn.jonkman.ca/group/ubuntu
[00:53] <BobJonkman> CrankyOldBugger will look after Google Plus announcements, &c.
[00:53] <BobJonkman> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/103177632744805958694 is the Ubuntu Canada LoCo community
[00:54] <BobJonkman> John mentions Sunflower filemanager, worth looking at
[00:54] <BobJonkman> It's a graphical FM.
[00:58] <BobJonkman> Arunu asks can I handle IRC and Video together?
[00:58] <BobJonkman> Yes, but I think people on IRC are losing out on a lot of the conversation
[00:59] <aruna_> That was my concern as well
[01:00] <BobJonkman> Should we do video chat again?
[01:00] <BobJonkman> Consensus, yes.
[01:00] <CrankyOldBugger> I hear music..
[01:01] <genii> CrankyOldBugger: Aruna's phone :)
[01:01] <BobJonkman> Bregma say Hangouts on Air solve part of that problem by letting more than 10 people participate  by viewing only
[01:01] <BobJonkman> So next time I'll try that
[01:02] <aruna_> Sorry I had to take the call it's my son from Sri lanka
[01:02] <genii> Well, good night and we will hopefully "see" each other again soon
[01:02] <CrankyOldBugger> good night everybody
[01:03] <BobJonkman> Also, I'd likt to try running in a community area like Kwartzlab where we can participate as a group, allowing people without video access to participate
[01:04] <katherineB> That would be nice.
[01:06] <BobJonkman> For February's meeting we can try Hangouts On Air, and I'll ask Darcy about using Kwartzlab.
[01:07] <BobJonkman> Perhaps azend can see about using Diyode..
[01:07] <BobJonkman> Anyway, that about finishes off  the night. The video chat has shut down, and if nobody has anything else we can end the meeting
[01:08] <BobJonkman> #endmeeting
[01:08] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Jan 24 01:08:11 2014 UTC.
[01:08] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2014/ubuntu-ca.2014-01-24-00.00.moin.txt
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[01:08] <katherineB> Bye BobJonkman!
[01:09] <BobJonkman> Bye katherineB!
[04:42] <zykotick9> BobJonkman: so?  how did you video meeting work out?  good turn out?  technically ok?
[04:42] <BobJonkman> Hi zykotick9!
[04:43] <zykotick9> hey
[04:43] <BobJonkman> Yes, great turnout, technically good
[04:43] <zykotick9> that's good!
[04:43] <BobJonkman> Seems there's a limit on Hangout participants, so we had a lineup of people wanting to get in
[04:43] <zykotick9> wow!
[04:43] <zykotick9> sounds like an excellent turnout then!
[04:44] <BobJonkman> Oh, and you should hook up with Pedro ___ from Ottawa, who's looking for any signs of a tech community there.
[04:44] <BobJonkman> Hang on, I'll see if I can find his last name
[04:44] <BobJonkman> You're not on Google , are you?
[04:44] <zykotick9> nope
[04:45] <zykotick9> i'm google free!
[04:46] <BobJonkman> Hmm.  I feel so tainted by tonight's experience
[04:46] <BobJonkman> Anyway, Pedro joined us about halfway through
[04:47] <zykotick9> does Pedro frequent IRC?
[04:47] <BobJonkman> I'll ask him to check out IRC when I see him online
[04:47] <zykotick9> cool
[04:47] <BobJonkman> No, I don't think he's on IRC
[04:47] <zykotick9> :(
[04:48] <BobJonkman> He said he works in a tech environment, where I gathered using Ubuntu is the norm
[04:48] <zykotick9> well, i'm glad your video meeting went well!  take care.
[04:48] <zykotick9> nice!  lucky him!
[04:48] <BobJonkman> But he said that when he leaves the office there's no sign of any tech community.
[04:48] <zykotick9> (not that ubuntu would be my 1st choice, but still)
[04:49] <zykotick9> there is OCLUG, but i haven't been in a LONG while - they've moved meeting locations even...
[04:49] <BobJonkman> What's your distro of choice?
[04:49] <zykotick9> right now, it's ubuntu based - Trisquel
[04:49] <zykotick9> freedom FTW
[04:49] <BobJonkman> Oh, right! I remember setting something up for that :)
[04:50] <zykotick9> i've been using Debian "main" only for the last couple of years (since squeeze was released)
[04:50] <zykotick9> you did!  thanks again.
[04:50] <BobJonkman> I've got a partition set aside for Debian Testing, but haven't populated it yet.
[04:51] <BobJonkman> "Something for Trisquel" http://sn.jonkman.ca/group/trisquel for those folks in the IRC audience
[04:51] <BobJonkman> Is Trisquel a rolling distro?
[04:51] <zykotick9> testing isn't bad, but i was ALL about stability, so for me "stable" was where it was at.  now, freedom is my #1 priority (that has been my take-away, from the entire snowden/nsa thing)
[04:51] <zykotick9> trisquel is the same as ubuntu-lts ;)  with the non-free stuff removed.
[04:52] <zykotick9> they only do LTS releases now.
[04:52] <zykotick9> trisquel has a VERY small developer base, no where near the quality of debian :(..
[04:53] <BobJonkman> Using Trisquel felt good.
[04:53] <zykotick9> anyways, i'm glad the video meeting went well for ubuntu-ca/you!
[04:53] <BobJonkman> I never had it on my computer, but I set it up for someone else.
[04:53] <zykotick9> it does "feel good" :)
[04:54] <BobJonkman> Thanx! We'll do it again next month, this time with Google Hangouts On Air
[04:54] <BobJonkman> bregma says that lets other people watch without participating, effectively removing the 10 person cap
[04:54]  * zykotick9 doesn't know what "GH On Air" even is... but seeing as it's google, wouldn't touch it with a 30 foot pole
[04:55] <BobJonkman> It records the hangout session on YouTube, and live-streams it too.
[04:55] <zykotick9> neat
[04:56] <zykotick9> hope you're surviving this COLD ok... i assume your weather can't be radically different from here.
[04:56] <BobJonkman> Yes, I got sucked into this Google deal because I felt obligated to go where the people are. Seems to have been a good choice, considering today's participation numbers
[04:57] <BobJonkman> Gnomepanel Weather Applet says -19 now.
[04:57] <BobJonkman> Was -20 earlier, so summer must be near
[04:57] <zykotick9> while, i'm sure, it's the best "technical" solution... the google-factor is very distastful
[04:58] <BobJonkman> We've got an inline (tankless) water heater that froze up.  Seems the exhaust pipe doesn't just let the gas out, it also lets the cold in
[04:59] <BobJonkman> Yes, the Google Hangout was actually the best quality solution we tried.
[04:59] <zykotick9> eeek.  that's not good.  well, stay warm!
[04:59] <BobJonkman> There was also https://chatb.org/#ubuntu-ca (WebRTC), Jitsi, TInychat, OpenMeeting, maybe some others. genii helped a lot, as did belkinsa from the Ohio team
[05:00] <zykotick9> thanks again for !trisquel group.  glad your meeting went so well!  cya on GS or IRC soon i'm sure.
[05:01] <BobJonkman> OK, goodnight and !tzaf, zykotick9
[05:01] <zykotick9> ;)
[05:05] <aruna_> BobJonkman: Check your PM please
[05:05] <BobJonkman> Done. Too many chat windows open.
[05:06] <BobJonkman> There's at least three different IRC servers, XMPP, StatusNet...