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[02:49] <bazhang> <JENelson> pleanbean, you have two windows boot partitions. You could manually edit grub.cfg and remove one of them. you could initialize the partition you want to eliminate.
[02:49] <bazhang> I thought there was a HUGE warning about not doing that
[02:50] <Unit193> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE   at the top big enough?
[02:51] <bazhang> hehe yeah
[02:52] <bazhang> <zack_> pk gn
[02:52] <bazhang> he just lost me
[02:53] <Unit193> "OK, good night"
[02:53] <bazhang> pk is the new OK?
[02:53] <bazhang> I thought it was kk
[02:53] <Unit193> Typo.
[02:54] <Unit193> (I'm guessing here, I have no idea what's going on...)
[02:54] <bazhang> holstein has the patience of a saint
[02:55] <Unit193> Indeed.
[04:49] <harrisr> (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:04] <phunyguy> ^ ??
[05:05] <IdleOne> we have some special friends who sometimes join here by mistake
[05:10] <phunyguy> I see.
[05:11] <phunyguy> how is that even possible?
[05:12] <phunyguy> *shrug*
[05:13] <IdleOne> harrisr has been here before, he is impatient, a cross poster, a generally doesn't listen to answers.
[05:15] <phunyguy> sounds like a stand-up guy.
[05:15] <phunyguy> goodnight everyone
[05:15] <IdleOne> night
[05:18] <harrisr> Why is #ubuntu-touch a dead channel
[05:22] <IdleOne> it isn't
[05:22] <IdleOne> you just need to learn to be patient
[05:22] <harrisr> I have been waiting for like 15 minutes
[05:23] <harrisr> For a question as simple as does it void the warrenty
[05:23] <IdleOne> yes well it is the middle of the night in eastern america and europe
[05:23] <IdleOne> might want to wait a few hours
[05:24] <harrisr> Do you know the answer
[05:24] <IdleOne> if it is so simple how come you don't know the answer
[05:24] <IdleOne> why don't you try reading the warranty
[05:25] <IdleOne> guess he didn't like me answer
[06:52] <rww> phunyguy: "how is that even possible" => banforwards are one way
[09:08] <ikonia> !guidelines
[09:08] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[09:08] <ikonia> !coc
[09:08] <ubottu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct  | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv
[09:16] <Merrrrs> Hey I need some help
[09:16] <Merrrrs> I was recently banned from #ubuntu
[09:17] <Merrrrs> By a mod/admin abusing his power. Who do I speak with about that?
[09:17] <Myrtti> well you started wrong right there
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Sorry, I didn't see a template
[09:18] <Merrrrs> What do I do about a ban?
[09:18] <Myrtti> if you think that there's a problem with a mod/operator, it's actually better if you don't antagonise the people right from outset
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Not antagonising.
[09:18] <Myrtti> would have been better off starting to explain what happened
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I have the IRC log.
[09:18] <Merrrrs> One sec
[09:18] <Merrrrs> http://p.srsfckn.biz/show/132/
[09:18] <Myrtti> then why didn't you provide the log rather than straight off claiming abuse
[09:19] <Merrrrs> He banned me because I told him too fuck off. I know thats wrong.
[09:19] <Merrrrs> Before I got a chance to apologize, he b& me
[09:20] <ikonia> please paste the rest of the converation
[09:20] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I'm not some troll going around getting mods angry. I just needed to make sure I didn't mess anything up
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Dont have the channel log
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, You instantly kicked me
[09:20] <ikonia> no the bits after that
[09:20] <ikonia> that's in pm
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Hold on
[09:20] <ikonia> so the rest of the pm conversation
[09:21] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Alright dude
[09:21] <Merrrrs> http://p.srsfckn.biz/show/133/
[09:21] <Merrrrs> 2/2
[09:21] <LjL-Landan> no
[09:21] <Merrrrs> LjL-Landan, ?
[09:23] <Myrtti> so you used the word 'shit' and were told off for doing that, and then promptly ...
[09:23] <Myrtti> ok
[09:23] <Merrrrs> Was d/c'd
[09:24] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:25] <Merrrrs> What do I do about my ban? Are you folks still there?
[09:26] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:26] <Myrtti> so you used the word 'shit' and were told off for doing that, and then promptly told ikonia to fuck off after he had used time and effort trying to help you?
[09:26] <Myrtti> is that the summary of what happened in #ubuntu?
[09:27] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, yeah. And I apologized for that. I didn't like how he kept avoiding my requests
[09:27] <Merrrrs> I even told him he didnt have to help me anymore
[09:27] <Merrrrs> Just needed a quick example of the one line of syntax on pastebin maybe?
[09:27] <Merrrrs> he denied. Referred me to the man pages
[09:27] <Merrrrs> Which I already read
[09:27] <Merrrrs> but did not understand
[09:28] <Merrrrs> Hence my visit to #ubuntu
[09:28] <Myrtti> just like I would have done, though I do find doing a google search much more fruitful as you can find bazillion examples there
[09:28] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I have been trying to do this for days. Havent been finding anything useful
[09:28] <Merrrrs> And like I said
[09:28] <Merrrrs> Im not a pro
[09:28] <Merrrrs> But im not a noob either... With certain things.
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I can handle a challenge
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I dont need to be spoonfed
[09:29] <Merrrrs> But I had already tried
[09:29] <Merrrrs> And he ignored that fact
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I appreciate the free help, but listen to what the person asking for help has to say
[09:29] <Merrrrs> maybe?
[09:29] <k1l> Merrrrs: maybe the way of communication in the irc doesnt suit you that well. you can get voluntare support on askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums , too
[09:30] <Merrrrs> k1l, Maybe.
[09:30] <Merrrrs> But I dont like forums
[09:30] <Merrrrs> too slow
[09:30] <Myrtti> or maybe you really need to consider what kind of language you use in a public setting
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I apologized. Can we move past that?
[09:30] <Myrtti> the language *was* uncalled for
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I know dude
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Myrtti> I'm just reiterating
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I know.
[09:30] <Myrtti> and so
[09:31] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I'm sure you deal with people like me a lot
[09:31] <Merrrrs> yeah?
[09:31] <k1l> Merrrrs: honestly, you are not making it any better actuall in here. you are still staying you like some challenge and dont need to be spoonfd but still demand the command to be given to you.
[09:31] <Merrrrs> k1l, I dont need the command to be given to me. Im need help making sure I dont ruin something, as I have an encrypted /home dir
[09:32] <Merrrrs> Im not asking you to do it for me
[09:32] <Merrrrs> Maybe an example? I have read the man page. I have researched
[09:32] <k1l> so this contradictory behaviour doesn look like that incidents will not happen again :/
[09:32] <Merrrrs> k1l, Sorry. I didn't understand that
[09:33] <Merrrrs> Rephrase?
[09:33] <k1l> so i suggest again to use other official ubuntu support ways. maybe its just that you expect too much out of the real time conversation
[09:33] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Im just here making sure you guys realize that not everyone has the TIME, to be walked through. Thats why when I joined I said I had a fast question
[09:33] <ikonia> just to clarify - you where not refused the command, you where asked to give the commmand you wanted/thought you should use so we could correct it
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia attmpted to take me on a drawn out, very verbose "troubleshooting" session. As you could call that
[09:34] <Merrrrs> I dont have time for that
[09:34] <ikonia> then you don't use the command
[09:34] <ikonia> dd will destroy your system
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia, what?
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia, If used incorrectly, yes
[09:34] <ikonia> exactly
[09:35] <ikonia> hence why certain information is needed not "troubleshooting" - factual information
[09:35] <Merrrrs> Why did you ask me what I would do if my SSD failed? Was that relevant?
[09:35] <ikonia> yes, to make sure you where using the right tool for the job
[09:35] <ikonia> no point having a backup if you can't use it
[09:35] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thats not your problem though man
[09:35] <Merrrrs> I needed help with ONE THING
[09:35] <Merrrrs> Not decision making
[09:35] <ikonia> I'm done
[09:35] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I know you want to help me
[09:36] <Merrrrs> But future issues, are not your issue
[09:36] <Merrrrs> I understand why I cant restore with different hardware
[09:36] <Merrrrs> I dont care about that right now though
[09:36] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Am I being unreasonable?
[09:38] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:38] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:38] <Myrtti> sorry, I'm actually a bit busy outside this channel
[09:38] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, What do I do about my ban?
[09:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia was just not even listening to what I had to say
[09:39] <Merrrrs> Does that matter to you?
[09:39] <ikonia> I listened exceptionnally carefully
[09:39] <ikonia> I asked you for the command you whre trying to use - to help you /correct it
[09:39] <Myrtti> you wait until someone is listening - I can't spare any time for this right *now*
[09:40] <Merrrrs> Well can I go back to #ubuntu
[09:40] <Merrrrs> To ask someone else for help?
[09:42] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:42] <Merrrrs> ?
[15:57] <ikonia> hello cub
[15:58] <cub> Hi we've had some problems with spamming users from xtec.cat during the day in #ubuntustudio and unfortunately the IRC ops in the channel have not been available. I was suggested to come in here to see if anyone could help out?
[15:58] <ikonia> cub: ok, lets see what we can do
[15:58] <cub> thanks ikonia
[15:59] <ikonia> ok, so the first thing you should be aware of is that freenode staff are on the access list, so you can request help from freenode staff if there are no ops about
[16:00] <cub> ok
[16:01] <ikonia> second thing is jussi (in this channel) is on the access list under his old jussi01 nick, so getting the access list up to him
[16:02] <cub> so stupid question, what's the access list?
[16:02] <ikonia> people who are ops in the channel
[16:02] <cub> aha
[16:03] <Myrtti> /msg chanserv access #ubuntustudio list
[16:05] <cub> great thanks
[16:06] <cub> I'll go on from there. Cheers
[17:10] <phunyguy> Sounds like they could use some help during this timeframe in that channel.
[17:43] <SN3> can some one unban me from ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:47] <IdleOne> SN3: Do you remember why you got banned?
[17:56] <SN3> no idea
[18:05] <bazhang> SN3, the sysinfo you used
[18:06] <bazhang> #test is a good place for that
[18:13] <SN3> bazhang: okay
[18:20] <bazhang> SN3, I'm not an -offtopic operator, perhaps if you waited a moment we can about your ban there
[18:20] <bazhang> +see
[18:21] <phunyguy> shall I?
[18:21] <bazhang> SN3, wont have that issue any further, will you
[18:27] <bazhang> SN3, are you there? could you please respond?
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[20:17] <Myrtti> just in case someone is living under a rock, google is having some issues, so if someone is complaning that googly stuff doesn't work...
[20:18] <genii> Ah, good to know.
[20:18] <rww> tell them to use duckduckgo :3
[20:19] <hggdh> prolly cause the market is getting clobbered today (so far, -270)
[20:19] <jbroome> and gmail performance is tied to the DOW?
[20:19] <hggdh> they get nervous, and such
[20:19] <Myrtti> rww: brb, going to rustle the Skype network, see how you're doing then...
[20:20] <Myrtti> *snif*
[20:20] <rww> Myrtti: we don't use Skype, we use jitsi :P
[20:20] <Myrtti> well you get the point anyway
[20:20] <rww> yay decentralization!
[20:20] <rww> shame that's Hard for search engines :(
[20:20] <rww> anyways. ty for heads up
[20:21] <Myrtti> apparently things should be on the mend now, so maybe there aren't any complaints anymore