[00:06] robru, hey [00:06] robru, friends app is broken with latest commit [00:06] commit 128 "Excellent new post view thanks to Kai Mast!" [00:08] kenvandine, ^ [00:09] kenvandine, friends broke [00:09] a few minutes ago :) === k1l_ is now known as k1l === ^_\\\ is now known as LockeAnarchist [02:09] hey i have an install question for my n4 [02:11] it appears that installation is complete but my phone brings up a prompt "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? should i answer yes or no? [02:11] apollo: Is it still plugged in to your computer? [02:11] yeah [02:12] I'd say wait a while. The script should carry you past this point on its own, but it takes a while [02:12] oh ok... i was thinking that was the case, but I wasn't sure [02:12] thanks [02:12] i'm just a little impatient [02:12] I flash on a VM and I can see when there is USB activity... it stays solid as it does stuff in this stage. [02:12] Understandable :P [02:13] thx again [02:13] We're talking it could take 30-40 minutes [02:13] oh damn [02:13] ok good to know... the instructions were vague.. wasn't sure how long a "very long time" was [02:13] lol. Might be shorter for you as you have native USB performance. Who knows! :P [02:14] well we'll see. hopefully faster. thanks fishscene i'll just go play some dayz while I wait :P [02:36] ok i'm back [02:36] installation stalled at "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?" [02:36] uhhh [02:37] I waited to see if the script would work it out but the script eventually timed out throwing an error that installation took too long [02:37] I wonder if it's because the n4 has 4.3 [02:37] I actually don't know what the official response to this situation is, but when I've run into it, I've always selected "no" [02:38] ok cool [02:38] i just started the process over again [02:38] and will try no [02:38] if that doesn't work... i'll do it again and say yes [02:38] haha === duflu_ is now known as duflu [03:42] Kaleo, what broke? I tested that branch quite thoroughly I thought [03:43] Kaleo, also, it's just in PPA, it's not in distro yet === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:31] I'm about to install ubuntu touch on my lenovo s6000 but I couldn't find if the model is supported or if anybody tried it on that specific model, what should I expect? [04:40] I would love to help put this device on the working devices list [04:43] Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty [04:47] hi [04:47] on nexus 4 [04:47] using dual boot [04:47] tried updating to latest via settings menu item [04:47] downloaded r144 [04:47] i selected instal land reboot [04:47] it jsut botos back into the older ubuntu [04:48] and does not isntall [04:48] any ideas? [04:48] i go back into updates and it lets me pick install and reboto again [04:48] Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty [04:48] its not doing it for some reason [04:48] no idea [04:51] anyone? [04:52] This channel is not active [04:55] found my answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/358741/how-to-update-my-already-installed-ubuntu-touch-image [04:55] if in writeable mode you do updates from adb [04:55] not the updates menu === mrtharepist is now known as HeartMeeple [05:13] (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty [05:15] (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty [05:19] Hello [05:21] I'm about to install ubuntu touch on my lenovo s6000 but I couldn't find it in the device list, what should I expect? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:51] hello developers [07:51] i have a problem in terminal [07:51] ubuntu touch 14.04 132 build [07:52] the backspace and enter key is not working [07:52] please help [07:53] anmol: What device? [07:54] I know on my Nexus 7, backspace and enter key do not work in the Terminal App. [07:57] nexus 4 [07:57] fushscene [07:57] its nexus 4 [08:10] good morning [08:35] Is it possible to disable USB charging on Ubuntu Touch while still have the device connected to a PC? [08:36] Out of curiosity, would you need this? [08:36] Hourd: I would like to measure the battery level while performing certain computations [08:38] I suppose you might be able to alter the cable to not have the power wires connected, not sure if that would work though, as USB will give power [08:38] Hourd: Of course I could unplug the device, but I would still like access the device through SSH connections [08:46] Well, I could look for a data-only USB cable. Perhaps this could be a solution [09:09] pitti, good morning === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === mpt_ is now known as mpt === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:54] Morning all [09:54] your alarm clock broken? [09:55] he used ubuntu phone :P [10:05] Good morning [10:15] Saviq, ping [10:19] ricmm: re-ping bug #1271879 you asked for runenv. all the attachments should be there (they were temporarily removed by apport-retracer) and the artifact directory is linked from the description. psivaa has also access to maguro where it happens. do you need something else? [10:19] bug 1271879 in qtubuntu (Ubuntu) "qmlscene crashed with SIGABRT in qt_message_fatal()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271879 [10:25] Mirv: does this only hapen with this app? [10:25] how reproducible is it [10:47] robru, it does not start [10:50] popey: no at around 11 on a friday I have to go round to the mother-in-laws and give her, her nebuliser and meds for her lung cancer so I start earlier to cover the hour away [10:50] ahh [10:50] good guy davmor2 ☻ [10:51] popey: wifey has a morning off and goes to town, it was the only way we could work it :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:51] popey: shhhhhh you'll ruin my cover as pure unadulterated evil if you spread rumours like that :D === Zic is now known as Guest310 [11:05] psivaa: ^ didn't the same qmlscene crash seem to happen with some other apps too, or was it clock-app mainly? [11:06] Mirv: ricmm: they happen on maguro with calendar and clock app tests [11:07] and ubuntuuitoolkit test as well. was able to reproduce twice in calendar and clock [11:10] right, calendar, that was it [11:13] hey, I want to write a program with import QtSensors 5.0 [11:14] specifically, I want to use OrientationSensor ... [11:14] it's not working well, even when I set up pitti's sensor test environment [11:14] is anyone working on that? [11:14] rickspencer3, did you take a look at other apps using it ? i.e. the browser ... [11:14] seems to work well in there [11:15] ogra_, from QML? [11:15] i think so [11:15] ok, I'll take a look [11:15] webbrowser-app is mainly QML afaik [11:15] thanks ogra [11:15] tbh, I think I am programming it right, just can't get it to run on my desktop [11:16] rickspencer3: so the issue is that QtCreator crashes, or that the program crashes? [11:16] oh, desktop [11:16] pitti, well, if I install qtubuntu-sensors, qtcreator does not run [11:26] ok, so, if I have qtubuntu-sensors installed, my app won't run [11:29] it doesn't crash or anything, it just doesn't run [11:29] if I remove it, then pitti's test framework doesn't seem to do anything [11:29] if I run qtcreator from terminal, it crashes [11:29] void DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction(QAction*, int): Already tracking action "Follow Symbol Under Cursor" under id 149 [11:29] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [11:30] rickspencer3: yes, qtubuntu-sensors provides the actual implementation of the sensors for platform-api; without it, qtsensors will just give you a dummy implementation [11:31] pitti, should the mocking that you explained to me yesterday work w/o qtubuntu-sensors? [11:31] rickspencer3: no, it can't [11:31] all I want is the mocking, tbh [11:31] pitti, ok, so then qtubuntu-sensors must be busted in some say [11:31] I'll log a bug [11:31] pitti, is my reasoning correct, as far as you can tell? [11:31] rickspencer3: I'm actually quite surprised/disappointed that the app doesn't work with the dummy backend (which is shipped by qtsensors itself) [11:32] pitti, well, my app doesn't run and qtcreator segfaults [11:32] so, ... [11:32] rickspencer3: well, DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction doesn't sound like qtubuntu-sensors [11:32] * rickspencer3 shrugs [11:32] rickspencer3: dbusmenu is an Ubuntu thing [11:32] pitti, well, I assumed that was not related [11:32] rickspencer3: ah, perhaps; would need a stack trace to know the details [11:33] rickspencer3: it segfaults, so it would be interesting to know where [11:33] pitti, I have 2 files in /var/crash that look related [11:33] I'll move them, then repro to ensure it's the same thing [11:34] attach them to the bug report === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:43] pitti, does this look like the bug? [11:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-sensors/+bug/1227116 [11:43] Ubuntu bug 1227116 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "qtsensors is non-functional" [Medium,Confirmed] [11:45] rickspencer3: it doesn't look very similar TBH [11:45] pitti, oh, ok [11:45] * rickspencer3 backs out changes [11:46] rickspencer3: your's is a crash, when using platform-api; TiltSensor isn't implemented at all in either qtubuntu-sensors or platform-api [11:46] rickspencer3: no luck with a .crash report? [11:46] rickspencer3: if apport doesn't generate a .crash, then it's not a packaged application that crashes [11:46] rickspencer3: might be worth starting your app under gdb, let it crash, and do "bt" in gdb [11:46] to at least get an initial idea where it crahses [11:46] pitti, I'll be happy to do that when a developer is assigned to it [11:49] rickspencer3: it's not that bug, though [11:51] pitti, fyi, bug #1272294 [11:51] bug 1272294 in qtubuntu-sensors (Ubuntu) "qtsensors doesn't work on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1272294 [11:52] rickspencer3: the messaging app rotates really well I'm assuming that is mostly qml too [11:52] davmor2, right, I assume that they used the property of MainView to make that work [11:52] rickspencer3: ah, these crashes didn't run through apport, so they don't have package information (better to submit them through apport's UI, then they get auto-retraced and what not) [11:52] I'm trying to develop against the API on the desktop [11:52] rickspencer3: that's current trusty? [11:53] pitti, well, yesterday's trusty, yeah [11:53] rickspencer3: from today, I mean? (so that I can approximate the versions) [11:54] pitti, the crash file is from just now, but I did not dist-upgrade today [11:55] * pitti promises to enable apport for Launchpad again, so that this is easier [11:55] pitti, so, I never got the apport dialogs, except for "I don't have enough memory to analyze" one [11:55] oh [11:55] pitti, tell me what to do [11:55] that means the .crash file is corrupted somehow [11:55] rickspencer3: I'll try apport-retracing them, once my machine becomes a bit quieter (running several autopkgtests in parallel ATM) [11:56] thanks pitti [11:56] I think it will be good to get it so that app devs can really work with the API [11:57] I assume that bzoltan's team is responsible for qtubuntu-sensors? [11:57] qtubuntu-sensors is most probably fine, we need to first see a stack trace to identify the component [11:57] rickspencer3: the integration is on me, so the QML exposition [11:58] probably more like in between qtcreator and qtsensors === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:01] rickspencer3: right, the _usr_bin_qtcreator.1000.crash doesn't have a CoreDump, that was the bit that showed the "not enough memory" error [12:01] rickspencer3: but _usr_lib_x86_64-linux-gnu_qt5_bin_qmlscene.1000.crash does have a core dump, retracing now [12:09] rickspencer3: wow, it's actually qtubuntu-sensors [12:09] I attached a stack trace [12:09] pitti, why do you doubt me? [12:09] ;) [12:09] je suis désolé :-) [12:10] rickspencer3: oh, maybe not [12:10] ah, I know why this can't be retraced [12:13] rickspencer3: followed up [12:16] rickspencer3: what happens if you don't have qtubuntu-sensors installed? [12:16] rickspencer3: you shouldn't get a crash then, but does qtcreator and your app start up and work at all? (without sensor data, of course) [12:16] pitti, nothing crashes, but nothing works either [12:16] the API is there, but doesn't every get any data or anything [12:17] events never fired, etc... [12:17] I assumed that was expected behavior [12:17] rickspencer3: it is, as there are no actual sensors on a desktop [12:17] I followed up again to clarify the situation [12:17] pitti, I saw [12:17] for some reason lp is not letting me comment [12:18] or I would, if it wouldn't keep timing out [12:18] ah, now; I now have two comments and triaging [12:18] rickspencer3: I suppose this is trivial to reproduce in a test [12:18] mzanetti, ping [12:18] rickspencer3: right now, qtubunut-sensor only has integration tests with the test backend [12:18] pitti, I reproduce by installing and removing qtubuntu-sensors [12:18] Hi Cimi [12:19] if that's what you mean [12:19] rickspencer3: trying to instantiate a sensor without the test backend will/should create exactly this crash, which we ought to fix [12:19] mzanetti, where would you put test for nested mir in autopilot? [12:19] mzanetti, inside which file, or creating a new one? [12:19] rickspencer3: no, I mean in an automatic test in qtubuntu-sensors; not necessary to do it on your side [12:19] ah [12:19] Cimi: depends on what the test does [12:19] then, "sure"? [12:19] Cimi: -> #ubuntu-unity [12:19] rickspencer3: but what you can do is to create said /tmp/sensors and setting the magic env variables to use the test backend [12:20] rickspencer3: note that you need to install libubuntu-application-test-api1 for that [12:20] I think I did, let me double check [12:20] pitti, uh, so apt doesn't seem to know about that package? [12:20] rickspencer3: ah, not at the time when you got the .crash file [12:21] le huh? [12:21] oh, did platform-api *still* not land? [12:21] E: Unable to locate package libubuntu-application-test-api1 [12:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/platform-api/0.20+14.04.20140114.1-0ubuntu1 [12:22] it ought to be there [12:22] rickspencer3: ah, sorry, my fault; that was an intermediate package name, but it got renamed [12:22] rickspencer3: libubuntu-application-api-test1 [12:23] pitti, hey, the app runs now [12:23] ogra_, is anything else modifying the rootfs tarball produced by live-build before it being published as the .xz file? [12:24] rickspencer3: want to up the ante a bit and create some faked events? :-) [12:24] pitti, I ran it like this: [12:24] UBUNTU_PLATFORM_API_BACKEND=libubuntu_application_api_test.so.1 UBUNTU_PLATFORM_API_SENSOR_TEST=/tmp/sensors qmlscene Up.qml [12:24] janimo, .xz ? [12:24] rickspencer3: correct [12:24] pitti, right, if I edit that /tmp/sensors it should make events? [12:24] rickspencer3: switchign to /msg for the details [12:24] janimo, live-build only produces gz [12:24] ogra_, the one I am getting in a local build is rooted at / as opposed to /system/, has SWAP but no android or userdata [12:25] thats armhf ? [12:25] ogra_, I was looking at the published tar.xz, used for system deltas. should have cheked the .zip sorry [12:26] oh, yeah, thats completely repacked by system-image [12:31] ogra_, so in order to test a tar.gz I should also repack it and put the result in /data/system.img? [12:31] well, ask stgraber, i know he has code ready for community ports ... but due to lack of tests for it he cant release it [12:32] is any other method still used? Untarring the tarball directly to userdata is incomplete right? [12:32] ogra_, what code is currently doing this for the official builds? Is that available? [12:32] well, you could create a zip and use the old flipped container [12:33] hi ogra ! [12:33] termial keys backspace and enter not working in nexus 4 [12:34] anmol, ancient bug ... [12:35] lol yes :d [12:35] :D [12:35] how to resolve this [12:35] by fixing the terminal plugin [12:35] I must be stupid, but I can't manage to add a RSS feed in Shorts app. Anyone using it? [12:35] see the mailing list, it is in every daily report [12:35] link to this bug [12:36] janimo, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/phablet-android-scripts.tgz thats what we use for zip creation on cdimage (not public atm since it is a hack ... the binary used in there comes from the android build) [12:37] (will be properly added to cdimage at some point, once we have a package for the binary thingie) [12:38] janimo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6808124/ this is how i call it in rootstock-ng [12:38] ogra_, so this zip creation is for the flipped image? [12:39] janimo, right ... system-image uses the tarball directly though [12:39] thanks ogra [12:39] the zip created by the above script enables you to just flash from recovery ... the android way [12:39] ogra_, ok so I'd like to create the equivalent of the system-image .xz file, with userdata added, etc. Is that code only at stgraber ATM and nowhere public? [12:40] janimo, right, you cant yet [12:40] janimo, it is public on LP [12:40] ogra_, ok, the zip method is good I guess, although I would have preferred to test the official way [12:40] but you need the gpg keys etc [12:41] janimo, right, i plan to have that in my script for local builds ... as soon as stephane releases something [12:41] someone has to write the tests for it ... [12:41] :) [12:44] hi, i'm having some issues trying to propose a branch that run some tests in ubuntu-system-settings: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-system-settings-trusty-amd64-ci/117/console [12:45] does anyone knows how to configure to use a xserver in cmake or something? (it's not my area of expertise) [12:45] ogra_, what creates the userdata partition with SWAP system-data, user-data at it's root? Ubuntu while booting or made at image flashing time? [12:45] janimo, android [12:45] SWAP is inside the image [12:46] for flipped the /userdata partition of android is used ... for system-image thats all done from the initrd ... have a look at initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch [12:47] and i think parts of it live in the flash process in the modified recovery we use === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:59] seb128, re that time update bug, does the settings app notify the datetime service of a change? how does it detect one? [13:03] pmcgowan, the service monitors the system tz (which is the way it should work, because the tz can be changed by different way, especially on a desktop config) [13:04] pmcgowan, seems like a bug in the service that doesn't pick up the change, I need to ping charles about it (I can confirm it's an issue on trusty desktop as well) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:04] seb128, ok makes sense [13:05] seb128, I was just thinking to avoid any sort of periodic polling, unless there is some event the service can listen on [13:05] pmcgowan, there is no polling [13:05] seb128, ok vg [13:06] pmcgowan, file watches/inotify don't poll (and I think there is also a dbus signal for timedated that they use) [13:06] ok [13:15] I don't think it does use that, but maybe should === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:35] ogra_, where can I find this tool, used by your script ? /home/ogra/utouch-android/zip [13:36] janimo, thats just zip from the archve :) [13:36] janimo, hacking around the fact that nusakan doesnt have it installed [13:36] janimo, rip the path out === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:39] attente, kalikiana, is this really true? Are we going to see dynamic language switching soon? This is really awesome! (bug 1263163) [13:39] bug 1263163 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Selecting a new display language doesn't give a preview in the new language" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263163 [13:40] janimo, note that the android "update-binary" in there is arm ... in case you fiddle with x86, it wont work [13:41] ogra_, ah ok, I thought it's some zip wrapper [13:42] nah, just me being evil to nusakan ... [13:42] ogra_, would installing zip there be too risky? [13:43] janimo, nope, i didnt file an RT back then ... and then forgot :P [13:48] dpm: looks like it :-D the bug was a bit confusing but should be getting into the next release [13:48] that is excellent, good work guys [14:08] pitti, hey there, just updated https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/process-cpp/more_verbose_output_from_fork_and_run/+merge/203013 [14:09] tvoss: hm, that test seems to be unstable; it's not related to that MP, is it? [14:10] tvoss: I mean cross_process_sync_test [14:10] 2 successes, 2 failures from jenkins [14:11] pitti, nope, the test might have been flaky before [14:11] tvoss: why is it public API now? isn't a private API enough? [14:11] tvoss: yes, that's what I meant (the test fails unrelated to that MP) [14:11] pitti, I need to expose the symbol for testing purposes unfortunately, as the tests link to the so [14:12] ah, we can't statically link the test to the lib? [14:12] tvoss: it's not a biggie, but it'd be unfortunate having to bump the soname due to internal changes [14:13] pitti, agreed, it's a question of symbol visibility though === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:28] mterry, lp:~unity-team/unity8/unity8.test_nested_mir [14:31] mterry, lp:~unity-team/unity8/unity8.test_nested_mir [14:33] Cimi, looks good! Though maybe don't describe it as testing nested mir. More like just testing system integration in general (in a way that nested mir just happened to break, but it was more of a lightdm misconfiguration than a mir problem) [14:33] mterry, that's why I pinged you, better idea for name? [14:34] Cimi, "system integration" ? [14:34] Cimi, and for that particular test, policykit or networkmanager integration [14:34] dual boot with android makes the wifi in utouch unavailable [14:35] then to reboot the device .. then the wifi indicator appear ... [14:35] anyone can comment on it ? [14:37] sergiusens: can we please get an update to music in the store? [14:43] popey, how can I bribe you? :-) [14:43] lol [14:43] * sergiusens is on it [14:43] hah [14:44] popey, have you tried the music app in the emu btw? [14:44] i have not [14:45] * popey boots the emulator === ricmm_ is now known as ricmm [14:46] mterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.test_nested_mir/+merge/203088 [14:47] Cimi, awesome. works for me. So let me help you set up nested [14:47] mterry, we want to see it failing now [14:48] mterry, and working after your fixes of tuesday [14:48] Cimi, yup. So can you build from a bzr branch? It's a short build [14:48] mterry, i can, manta? [14:48] Cimi, uh, sure [14:48] Cimi, so grab lp:~mterry/session-manager-touch/usc [14:48] Cimi, and build it, install it [14:49] Cimi, you'll also need to install unity-system-compositor [14:49] but it will tell you that [14:55] sergiusens: does mtp work in the emulator? [14:55] Cimi, so once you install that, it will (hopefully) work with your AP test. We can make a small edit to a config file to get back to the pre-fix state [14:56] popey, nope [14:57] el bummer [14:57] popey, well it does; but there isn't any usb device connected === rachelliu_ is now known as rachelliu [15:08] beuno: ping [15:14] sergiusens: hmm, put some music on my emulated phone but it doesn't show up... [15:14] should have used emulated music then :P [15:15] popey, afaik we dont have any working audio device yet [15:15] ogra_, but the lens should work [15:15] i tinkered a bit with the qemu audio options, but didnt find a single working one [15:15] sergiusens, oh, indeed [15:15] yeah, its like mediascanner didnt find it [15:16] also, not enough disk space by default [15:16] just filled up my emulated phone with very little music [15:17] popey, where? [15:18] stgraber, hi, do you have some code to turn the rootfs tarballs into system image .xz files? [15:18] sergiusens: /home/phablet/Music [15:22] gerrit refuses to verify my e-mail :( [15:24] popey, hmmm, will check [15:27] janimo: lp:~ubuntu-system-image/ubuntu-system-image/server/ [15:27] janimo: lib/systemimage/generators.py => generate_file_cdimage_ubuntu === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:27] stgraber, thanks! [15:30] stgraber, did you notice my private message [or maybe you are blocking them automatically]? [15:30] stgraber, does that work without gpg key ? [15:31] stgraber, any code to call that and turn an existing livebuild tarball into an .xz? [15:31] stgraber, I have a locally build tarball [15:32] which I'd like to test on the N4 [15:32] ideally using the system image format [15:36] janimo: no, we don't have code for that and the upgrader would reject it anyway as it won't be signed by a trusted key [15:37] w-flo: no, just came online no and am slowly catching up with the dozen of people who sent me messages overnight === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:38] stgraber, ah, okay. :) [15:38] stgraber, the .xz image would be useful on its own, on a rooted device, by copying it in /data/system.img . [15:39] stgraber, unsigned for development mode [15:45] Mirv, do you use Unity8 on the desktop to test Qt 5.2 ? === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:49] ralsina: hey, heard there's something up with rating/review on preview ? [15:50] kgunn: well, basically we need to get the review text and rating value to the scope so it can send it to the serer [15:50] server* [15:50] ralsina: ok, so this may just be code from the ui that was stubbed out waiting on the backend to arrive... [15:50] ? [15:51] well, we had the code in the ui, and when we wrote the backend in the scope there was no way to join them :-) [15:51] and now we are rewriting the scope in C++ and there's whole new APIs so it's a good point to figure out how to do it right [15:52] ralsina: ok...can we assume the ui is "right" ? :) [15:52] * kgunn likes the lazy route === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:52] kgunn: indeed "right" with quotes :-) [15:52] ralsina: please ping us if you think we need to change something... [15:53] kgunn: cool. Will do. [15:53] us being usual suspects in #ubuntu-unity zanetti, saviq, tsdgeo_s [15:54] paulliu is the one who did the scope work and he's now working on the previews so he should know both sides of the thing [15:54] ah ha [15:57] stgraber, hi, when devel-customized-proposed gets promoted, it seems to get a new version number, is that expected? [15:58] i.e. devel-customized is at version 27, but devel-customized-proposed is at 147 [15:59] cwayne: yes, it's expected [15:59] stgraber, ack, thanks [16:02] stgraber, is that not the case for devel-proposed -> devel though? they seem to keep the build number [16:03] cwayne: devel-proposed -> devel is a manually handled channel [16:03] s/channel/process/ [16:03] hello. i am planing to install a *buntu to my touch pad device archos 9. it runs now a win7 and is quite slow. where can i check if touchpad support works? maybe with a live cd, and then what package? [16:03] oooh right, so devel-customized is just whatever the devel is plus the latest SR tarball [16:04] correct [16:04] stgraber, awesome, thanks [16:23] Cimi, so I'm about to go out the door for some errands. [16:24] Cimi, if you are testing that bzr branch, and you want to go back to the broken state [16:24] Cimi, edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/52-ubuntu-touch.conf and remove the [LightDM] stanza with its minimum-vt=1 bit [16:24] Cimi, with that stanza, the bug is fixed [16:24] Cimi, without it, we should hit the bug [16:25] mterry, Ill try [16:26] Cimi, did you get my ping yesterday ? (i provided a link to the deb with nested) ... [16:27] ogra_, nope I didn't... [16:27] Cimi, do you still need it ? http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-touch-session_0.91~test1_all.deb [16:27] ogra_, guess they might have been before 1000 lines scrollback [16:27] ogra_, would be great, thx [16:27] heh, yeah [16:28]