[00:05] <Unit193> paultag?
[00:06] <paultag> hurm
[00:06] <paultag> yeah, send the upload over
[00:06] <paultag> and same with the qa upload
[00:06] <paultag> but alternatives - if it's in the archive, talk to the other maintainer
[00:06] <paultag> if it's not, dpkg-divert it
[00:10] <Unit193> Eh, mine isn't going into the archive, was just trying to figure out the best way.
[00:11] <Unit193> (It's a package update of dropbear.)
[00:19] <Unit193> Might have to figure out how to email other DDs for fixes. :/
[00:30] <Unit193> You have mail.
[00:30]  * Unit193 waits for larts.
[01:13] <paultag> I just rm'd my ~
[01:13] <paultag> so uh
[01:13] <paultag> might be a second or two
[01:13] <paultag> I'm on my tablet net
[01:13] <paultag> now
[01:14] <dzho> oh dear
[01:15] <dzho> I got seriousl backup religion when I dd if=/some/thumbdrive.img of=/duh/that/is/my/root/device/not/my/keychain
[01:15] <Unit193> Wow, that's not fun...  Was doing something and accidentally did a rm -rfv once there, lucky for me I started jamming Ctrl+C like no tomorrow, think I mainly lost the cache and dotfiles.
[01:39] <paultag> I have full backups
[01:39] <paultag> no problem
[01:39] <paultag> just annoying since full disk encryption takes ages
[01:39] <Unit193> Yeep.  Been playing around with full disk cryptsetup+dropbear for "remote" unlock of a server, funtimes.
[01:40] <paultag> All my machines are LVM FDE'd
[01:40] <Unit193> Go Btrfs! :P
[03:09] <paultag> :þ
[03:09] <paultag> btrfs is great
[03:09] <paultag> but inside an LVM FDE volume
[15:10] <belkinsa> jrgifford, I maybe late for the mock vitual Ubuntu Hour by a bit, please help the two if they have issues.
[15:10] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[15:50] <belkinsa> Okay, nevermind.  I'm here and ready to roll.
[15:51] <jrgifford> ok
[15:51] <jrgifford> what channel should i be in?
[15:51] <belkinsa> Second mock virtual Ubuntu Hour in 9 minutes.
[15:51] <belkinsa> This one
[15:51] <belkinsa> And #ubuntu-us-oh in chatb.ogr
[15:51] <belkinsa> org*
[15:51] <jrgifford> k
[15:52] <belkinsa> I hope the internet connection is stable here.  I'm in walters building on Blue Ash UC campus
[15:56] <belkinsa> Sent the two an e-mauil
[15:56] <belkinsa> Hey ronswift
[15:56] <belkinsa> Ready
[15:59] <dmcalloway> Hello everyone !
[15:59] <ronswift> Hello
[15:59] <belkinsa> Hey dmcalloway
[15:59] <belkinsa> #ubuntu-us-oh on chatb.org
[15:59] <belkinsa> chatb.org/#ubuntu-us-oh
[16:00] <jrgifford> i'll join in a minute or two, need to wrap something up here
[16:00] <belkinsa> K
[16:01] <belkinsa> 7959 is
[16:01]  * belkinsa is 5426
[16:01] <dmcalloway> I just went to that link - 7959 is me but I see only black
[16:02] <belkinsa> It is asking for use of mic and cam?
[16:02] <belkinsa> Firefox or chrome?
[16:02] <dmcalloway> No, I am in Firefox. Should I try in Chrome ?
[16:02] <belkinsa> The firefox from the repos doesn't work with chatb
[16:02] <belkinsa> use chrome
[16:03] <belkinsa> Like in that e-mail
[16:04] <belkinsa> 1792 is?
[16:05] <dmcalloway> yes, I am 1792
[16:05] <dmcalloway> You are still 5436 right ?
[16:05] <belkinsa> 5426 is me
[16:06] <dmcalloway> Can everyone hear me okay ?
[16:06] <dmcalloway> Cool !
[16:06] <belkinsa> ronswift?
[16:08] <belkinsa> bandwith issues
[16:09] <belkinsa> let me go mic only
[16:09] <belkinsa> You have video dmcalloway
[16:10] <dmcalloway> okay well do
[16:10] <belkinsa> sorry people
[16:10] <belkinsa> nursing students...
[16:11] <thafreak> wow, audio on this chatb sucks
[16:11] <belkinsa> yeah
[16:11] <belkinsa> bandwith issues
[16:11] <belkinsa> Let's try with NO Mics everyone
[16:12] <jrgifford> just went no video because of bandwithd
[16:13] <belkinsa> ronswift, you there.
[16:14] <belkinsa> should we try at another date
[16:14] <jrgifford> dunno
[16:15] <dmcalloway> Or we could just text chat (old school I know, but fun !)
[16:15] <belkinsa> Yeah
[16:15] <belkinsa> That would be better
[16:15] <jrgifford> hah, this works too!
[16:16] <jrgifford> dang, i've heard skype calls over a half meg DSL that sounded better than this...
[16:17] <belkinsa> Yeah.
[16:17] <belkinsa> New techlogy this WebRTC?
[16:17] <dmcalloway> If the server is being hosted on a campus, though, their bandwidth is likely getting slammed now
[16:17] <jrgifford> ~1 year old
[16:17] <jrgifford> dmcalloway: the whole point of webrtc is it is decentralized
[16:18] <dmcalloway> oh - I see - peer to peer webchat with video ? Impressive !
[16:18] <jrgifford> Yup
[16:18] <jrgifford> which is why it's a little flaky...
[16:19] <belkinsa> So, I think for us and rest of the LoCo's, I think using IRC is better for virtual Ubuntu Hours if they want to not use (yicky) Google.
[16:20] <jrgifford> (for example, i'm sending a lot of traffic to someone using road runner in columbus. also to a IP address that gets mapped to university of cinci.
[16:21] <jrgifford> so it's almost entirely decentralized
[16:21] <belkinsa> The UC is mine.
[16:21] <jrgifford> yup, figured
[16:21] <dmcalloway> I see. I am using Road Runner in Columbus
[16:21] <belkinsa> Does it say what buidling I'm in?
[16:21] <belkinsa> (just kidding)
[16:21] <jrgifford> the only "central" part is the server on chatb.org that handles the handshakes
[16:23] <jrgifford> belkinsa: nope. :P
[16:23] <dmcalloway> Fascinating ! I am looking at their website now.
[16:23] <jrgifford> the webrtc stuff?
[16:24] <dmcalloway> I also just found out where Blue Ash is. Yes, the webRTC website. Have not heard of this before the Ubuntu hours email from last week
[16:24] <belkinsa> WebRTC seems to be fascinating but it has bugs to be fixed at that stuff
[16:24] <jrgifford> it's designed for the future, not the present
[16:24] <belkinsa> That sucks.
[16:24] <belkinsa> And that is bull./
[16:25] <jrgifford> another example of a great technology that cannot be used with the current mindset of carriers and ISPs.
[16:27] <dmcalloway> Are we still configuring ? Ronswift and I are the only two in webrtc with video and audio
[16:27] <belkinsa> I guess the takeaway is that old skool is better for now if we have enough folks that want to do Ubuntu hours again.
[16:27] <belkinsa> No, with the issues, I think we are done.
[16:27] <jrgifford> dmcalloway: i don't think there is much we can do at this point
[16:28] <dmcalloway> :(
[16:28] <jrgifford> belkinsa: i don't think we can use webrtc
[16:28] <jrgifford> i'd like to, but we can't.
[16:28] <dmcalloway> Well, before everyone darts off : any ideas on which project needs help ?
[16:28] <belkinsa> Same.  At least, we tried to use it.
[16:29] <dmcalloway> Well, besides webRTC, lol - I do not think I can code at a low enough level to fix this
[16:29] <belkinsa> As in for coding, no?  But if you want to document things, Ubuntu Doc team needs help.
[16:29] <jrgifford> we could always do vlc | netcat
[16:29] <belkinsa> Well...give me a minute
[16:30] <jrgifford> actually. that could be interesting.
[16:30] <belkinsa> dmcalloway, ^^^
[16:30] <belkinsa> That could
[16:30] <belkinsa> jrgifford, ^^^
[16:31] <jrgifford> And depending on your focus, Ask Ubuntu could use some help with cleaning up and answering questions occasionally.
[16:31] <belkinsa> dmcalloway, http://blog.ubuntu-women.org/2014/01/evaluating-harvest-ubuntu-com-call-number-two/ read this, this service maybe what you need but it needs to be kick started up again.
[16:31] <jenni> [ Ubuntu Women Blog | Evaluating harvest.ubuntu.com: Call Number Two! ] - https://j.mp/1fi6FM4
[16:31] <belkinsa>                                                                       
[16:33] <belkinsa> Well, I must be going.  I still need to drive back home but once I get there, i will e-mail the mailing-lists our results of this run and talk about just running text-only ones for the time being.  Sounds cool to everyone?
[16:33] <jrgifford> sounds good
[16:34] <belkinsa> And ronswift: that can go for your LoCo also.
[16:34] <belkinsa> Peace.
[16:34] <jrgifford> drive safely
[16:34] <dmcalloway> Okay - goodbye -
[16:35] <dmcalloway> Will also check out the link - although I thought that the Ubuntu Docs seem fairly complete.... but did not know about the Harvest project
[16:48] <dmcalloway> Okay, looks like everyone is winding down - goodday and nice chat !
[21:51] <belkinsa> jrgifford, thanks for today and the job suggestion from a few days ago.
[21:51] <jrgifford> belkinsa: no problem
[21:53] <belkinsa> And I still have that e-mail to send...
[21:54] <jrgifford> to...
[21:54] <jrgifford> ?
[21:54] <belkinsa> I was talking about the information and results of todays run of the mock vUH
[21:55] <jrgifford> ohk
[22:50] <starrats> good evening everyone
[22:50] <belkinsa> hello there
[22:50] <belkinsa> Are you a new member that needs help signing the CC?
[22:51] <starrats> yes, I live in OH and what is the CC?
[22:51] <belkinsa> Code of Conduct
[22:51] <starrats> ah okay
[22:51] <belkinsa> All member must have it signed when joining the team on LP
[22:52] <starrats> sure, I'm a nice guy, running xubuntu
[22:52] <belkinsa> Our Leader, skellat uses it too
[22:52] <belkinsa> Welcome to the team, by the way.
[22:52] <starrats> Unit193 told me about you folks
[22:52] <starrats> thank you
[22:52] <belkinsa> Ah.
[22:52] <belkinsa> I see
[22:53] <belkinsa> Who are on LP?
[22:53] <belkinsa> Who are you*
[22:53] <starrats> Oh you want my name or what?
[22:53] <belkinsa> Launchpad username
[22:54] <belkinsa> Or page
[22:54] <belkinsa> Like this one: https://launchpad.net/~belkinsa
[22:54] <jenni> [ Svetlana Belkin in Launchpad ] - https://j.mp/1htgtEo
[22:54] <belkinsa> Thank you, jenni.
[22:54] <Unit193> belkinsa: CC = Community Council. ;)
[22:54] <belkinsa> Oh.
[22:55] <belkinsa> But can it also said for Code of Conduct?
[22:55] <Unit193> CoC.
[22:55] <belkinsa> Ah, right.  Duh.
[22:56] <starrats> how do I sign in?
[22:56] <belkinsa> AFK!  Soryr.
[22:56] <starrats> saw your launchpad thing
[22:56] <Unit193> starrats: Howdy here as well!
[22:56] <belkinsa> Unit193, if you want to help, go a head.  I will be back in 15 minutes
[22:56] <Unit193> Some of us in here use Lubuntu, one (used to?) use Kubuntu, and I'm Xubuntu of course.
[22:57] <starrats> hello again Unit193, lol
[22:58] <Unit193> Already registered on UbuntuOne, Launchpad, or Forums?
[23:03] <starrats> I just joined/registered on launchpad, waiting for email
[23:04] <belkinsa> Back
[23:07] <belkinsa> This is your Ubuntu One account.  This will give you access to all Ubuntu sites that we have, including access to edit wiki pages.
[23:08] <Unit193> (If the wiki isn't acting up, as normal.)
[23:08] <starrats> just finished with registering with launchpad
[23:08] <belkinsa> Great.
[23:09] <belkinsa> Does Xubuntu have the GUI for Keys and passwords like Ubuntu does?
[23:09] <starrats> now what, lol
[23:09] <Unit193> starrats: Now you can file all kinds of bugs about Xubuntu! :P
[23:09] <starrats> okay cool
[23:09] <Unit193> If you have a GPG key, you can sign the Ubuntu thing and upload.
[23:10] <starrats> I don't know that much about ubuntu, I have tried numerous times to install it on my hd along with win7 but it won't work, followed all the instructions
[23:11] <starrats> I'm currently on xubuntu using VirtualBox
[23:12] <belkinsa> Speaking of new members: jrgifford, ping.
[23:13] <belkinsa> starrats, what is the issue that you are hitting?
[23:14] <belkinsa> You can ask in #xubuntu, it's their support channel here
[23:14] <starrats> sorry, i have emergency, will  bbl okay
[23:16] <belkinsa> Okay, see you around, starrats.
[23:16] <Unit193> Oh, he's from Kent BTW.
[23:17] <belkinsa> Doesn't matter anymore.  We are always will be scattered.
[23:17] <Unit193> Sure it does.
[23:17] <Unit193> drkokandy is pretty close to me, we could (and should in theory?) do a local meetup again. :P
[23:18] <Unit193> Seemed like a great guy to me too, though he attends to Akron LUG meetings so I'd have nothing on that. :P
[23:19] <belkinsa> I think there is no one around me in the greater Cinci are.
[23:19] <belkinsa> area*