[05:13] morning all [05:25] man my connection is really strange, all the while I thought I was connected to IRC but in fact I was not and just received a message that I have been reconnected. Either the software is delayed or the connection is shady or my machine is the issue [05:25] btw morning Kilos [05:50] good mornings [05:51] yo dude [05:51] inetpro how goes it [05:51] good and yourself trender [05:51] not to many complaints and u ? [05:53] trying to hack up a .bin linux firmware device file but all the cool toys to turn it back into os files and so on are made for linux and im using windoze :( [05:54] i need to tell this NAS device to mount me a few more partions in the FTAB file and the whole OS is mounted in ram so that sucks [05:55] i need to tell this NAS device to mount me a few more partitions in the FTAB file and the whole OS is mounted in ram so that sucks [05:55] sfstab file grrrr [05:58] my linux NAS device curently can only fdisk nad format a usefull partition of 700GB and im using 2TB drives so this little hack is posing a bit of a challenge to my small coconut [06:02] i suppose this is more a job for the ubuntu arm peepels but ive found many people are wanting to hack up linux devices to make a few changes to thier own toys firmware [06:03] linux arm people rather...grr to early for me to be thinking or typing [06:19] morning peoples [07:09] ThatGraemeGuy mornin [07:10] yo kilos [07:10] morning all [07:10] ok kilos i figured out that linux firmware image and how to hack it [07:10] cool [07:11] Eh, I will rather roll my own than try and build on Ubuntu [07:11] Oh and Morning Kilos :P [07:11] hi Trixar_za [07:20] hi Golynx [07:20] nas box image Trixar_za [07:20] Hi Kilos [07:21] i need a nas box linux .bin image decompiled so i can edit the fstab file and make some changes to accomodate bigger drives [07:22] You can extract them or use an image browser to do it [07:22] I tested my modem last night with a new vodacom sim. The light went from dull green for cellc to bright blue for vodacom, and it instantly picked up HSDPA! lol. But i cant afford vodacoms rediculous data prices. [07:22] Hi trender [07:23] telkom mobile [07:23] Hey Trixar_za [07:23] 8ta [07:23] Golynx: Get Telkom Mobile [07:23] Hey Golynx [07:23] :P [07:23] cellc sucks most places [07:24] No coverage here Trixar_za, not even a telkom mobile store [07:24] post office [07:24] Yeah, but CellC is only giving you GPRS/EDGE speeds [07:24] If the light is green that is [07:24] checkers etc [07:25] They use mtn roaming in places that dont have some coverage, but mtn here only got edge and gprs speeds [07:26] Ya Trixar_za , it always says EDGE speed but gives GPRS instead lol [07:26] Yeah and the Telkom Mobile bundles don't work in roaming mode [07:27] Still, you get the 1MB for R1 and you can use the slightly more expensive ALL network bundles [07:29] Cellc gives 6MB for R1 . Dunno why other networks dont lower some prices aswell [07:29] i go take sheep out [07:30] Not taking chances with no telkom mobile coverage though [07:32] the war of the MB price will never end [07:33] the only way to stabilise this war is to invest equally in all the cell companies [07:34] they need to collude and sleep with one annother [07:34] stabilise the data MB price at R500/GB [07:34] That's just stupid [07:35] no man [07:35] collution rules!!! [07:35] lol trender [07:35] No, R500 per GB [07:35] telkom gives 2g day and 1g night for R149 [07:35] its the only way to rape the customer [07:35] R50/GB sounds fair enough [07:36] im not a consumer advocate im a seller investor i dont giv a crap about the consumer :D [07:36] ai! [07:36] R500/Gb sounds to cheap even :D [07:37] I saw a study once in a news report, that if you wana grow your economy faster then improve access to the internet for everyone [07:38] Golynx yes dude then price margins fall and we all make less money [07:38] so can that idea lol [07:39] and in the end only china thrives [07:39] death to the rest of the world [07:39] a biblical death [07:39] its already the 11th hr dude [07:42] Then you get corruption in the companies that lay the FO cables. Slowing growth even more. ai [07:42] :D [07:42] everyone is corrupt [07:43] if you can pay R100 less on your groceries and you knew how to get it you would also take that opertunity [07:44] Depends [07:44] or negotiate with the poor avocado saleman on the pavement to get the avos for R3 each [07:45] If the deal is legit or its a promotion the store is running then i will take that deal [07:45] so i feel nothing for consumers the selers and investers bleed every last cent from the market while the going is good so that when consumers figure out a cheaper way they still have the money to stay in business its a double edged sword not a one sided story [07:47] hmm [07:48] price fixing and collution should be standard practice who wants to sell thier avo's for R1 when everyone else chargers R5 thats also insane [07:48] :D [07:49] lets all turn chinese to give joe consumer a better deal :D [07:49] I was never good at economics so i wont know [07:49] you like my cheap cellphone you buy my cheap cellphone luv you longtime sorry about cheap battery you never see me again lol [07:50] Better speak to an expert :D [07:50] Oh boo hoo [07:50] even the chinese have become big thieving thugs [07:50] If you sell cheaper, you sell more unites, which makes up the difference [07:50] 90% of the big usb flash drives are nothing more then 2mb fakes with false partitions [07:51] And considering what you're selling is pretty much 1s and 0s in the thin air, you can lower it to what you want [07:51] So your logic is questionable at best [07:51] Trixar_za not so joe consumer still only buys one unit and goes home to giggle to his wife and 2.5 kids cheaper doesnt work you only get a small shake of the market no matter who you are [07:53] You really don't know how consumers think. If you can get something for a 1/3 of the price of it from another supplier, you end up buying more of it for the same price - unit increase. In fact, a consumer will probably buy MORE than the price of the more expensive unit. [07:53] So you profit [07:54] Following your logic, you screw them over once and never profit again. You lose out. [07:54] * trender is a trender for the last 20 years and all i know is everything trends and burns out the trick is to be in on the trend and out on the fall [07:55] benefit big in the start and then dump your cellphones to buy pink socks when the margins fall [07:55] And considering data is pretty much in infinite supply with zero overhead to produce, what would lowering the price to sell more units do? [07:55] Pure profit [07:56] not zero overheads [07:56] networks are always growing [07:56] nobody wants to put themselves out of business [07:57] everyone wants a fair piece of the pie [07:57] hense collution makes perfect sence [07:57] team up and screw the consumer..trender for president!!! [07:57] And if memory serves is considered market manipulation and is illegal if caught. Actually, go ahead, you'd probably do well in jail :P [07:58] they all already collude my friend its called stock share options [07:58] and its 100% legal [07:59] you think if i owned cellc im not hedging my investment by buying mtn shares hell no!!! [08:01] :D that concludes todays free investing 101 course [08:14] Glad this j2me emulator works now, no more 100% cpu usage. But the saving pages feature is gone, ai - linux permissions permissions :/ [08:15] you should see how much cpu and ram the android bluestacks emulator uses it kills my pc [08:15] and for what just so i can have whatsapp on my pc lol [08:16] Are you using oracle or Openjdk [08:17] Openjdk dont work that well with graphics and got more bugs than oracle jdk [08:19] lol keep whatsapp on the phone rather [08:19] i dont have a phone that uses whatsapp i dont like smartphones i prefer the older bricks [08:19] i just want a phone with a red and green button :) [08:20] i dont even make outgoing calls [08:21] For a economics guy ? hmm [08:21] Hard to believe [08:23] economics sales marketing dev import export service repair and to the ladies casinova believe that but i guess you are so busy in mommies basement hacking the mousedriver youve never seen the real world Golynx lol [08:25] o [08:27] lol, i guess "ladies casinova" has corrupted both your brains trender. Building imaginary assumptions of people , ai. [08:27] lol [08:28] Golynx spoken like a dude who stays in mommies basement with a tub of vaseline jerking off to the you magazine lol [08:28] lets keep it civil guys :-) [08:29] ai ai cap'n [08:30] I guess that was your passtime trender before you got the courage to become a "ladies casinova" lol [08:30] :D dham you caught me out was it that obvious lol [08:31] excuse me while i run to shprite for more vaseline lol [08:31] excuse me while i run to shoprite for more vaseline lol [08:31] And since i dont have a basement, i assume you have one . So proves my point [08:32] oh gawd ive been defeated by a basement dweller what shall i do lol [08:35] Golynx ^5 dude you really took me out lol [08:36] Golynx now wipe the steam off you coke bottle nerd speks dude and get back to hacking that mouse driver :D [08:38] actually back in the Dos days Golynx i also hacked the mouse driver using debug but that was a tottaly special adventure :D [08:38] And since i dont have nerd speks, i assume you have . So what you say ,please say it infront of the mirror [08:39] lol [08:39] * trender is thinking coke bottle nerd spekz and braces perhaps with a small case of acne lol [08:39] THATS ENOUGH NOW [08:40] this is a linux help channel [08:40] :D im beeing very helpfull im cleaning the floor with Golynx [08:41] look how nice its sparkling :D [08:41] eish [08:42] trender , please learn to take out your days frustrations out on activities you anjoy. Your acting like that nerd boy you keep having nightmares about. [08:42] lol [08:43] so I guess there's no keeping it civil then? must be fun acting like 10-year-olds I suppose [08:43] Golynx i take my frustrations out on your mother....one day i will tell you what the squeeking and yelling noises are :) [08:45] trender, Golynx stop it now both of you [08:45] Keep dreaming of your imaginary "ladies", nerd boy [08:46] Done. [08:46] dont you understand what stop it means [08:46] takes 2 to make and argument [08:46] Kilos Golynx stepped up to my urinal and pulled out his little weener how is that my fault :D ? [08:47] i said both of you stop it please === smile is now known as smile4 [09:10] hi smile4 [09:10] Hi Kilos :p === smile4 is now known as smile [09:11] How are you? :) [09:11] good ty and you? [09:13] Hey smile [09:47] hmm... [09:48] hi inetpro [09:49] guys please note that all conversations are logged here [09:49] log this (_|_) [09:50] hi Xethron [09:50] trender: there's no need to be nasty [09:50] hi hi [09:50] How are you? [09:51] :D yea i know but its fun lol [09:51] work should be fun right [09:51] good ty and you? [09:52] at least it's Friday [09:52] Maaz: what's for lunch [09:52] inetpro: I prefer St Elmo's... but Scooters' deep pan pizza is also very yummy [09:52] hehe [09:53] sounds tasty [09:56] mmmm, scooter's deep pan is heerlik! [09:56] hi Golynx :) [09:57] trender: do you know about the Ubuntu Code of Conduct? [09:58] superfly do you know what this is (,,|,,) << trender: you've stepped over the line. don't ever think of coming back in here. [09:59] lol [09:59] i have an infinate proxy wethead i come and go as a please lol [09:59] trender: laugh all you want, you'll be kicked and banned in due course [10:00] TWIT lol [10:00] call yourself linux gurus and you really dont understand how the internet or irc really works lol [10:01] excuse me i have to change my underwear superfly just made me wet them :) [10:02] suplerfly was your previous nick superflop ? [10:03] I love how you say you have an infinite proxy, and yet I can see your router's IP address [10:03] oh gawd now ive been cyber bullied by superfly lol [10:04] superpop more like it lol [10:07] trender, please stop with the insults [10:07] lol [10:08] i will never surender :D [10:08] you wont take me alive!!! [10:09] thank you inetpro... finally [10:09] now to narrow that down slightly [10:21] hi zeref [10:23] And now trender is private messaging me. How cute. [10:23] * smile hugs superfly [10:23] ai! [10:24] Hi Kilos [10:26] I just ignored the [10:28] what a schlep [10:28] all unneccesary [10:29] hey Xethron [10:41] at least he doesn't seem to think enough to whois me [10:43] superfly: thanks for dealing with it [10:43] rather hectic on this side [10:43] here we go again... [10:44] ai! [10:44] it's normally pretty hectic here too, but everyone went out for lunch [10:45] right-click -> kick & ban [10:45] easy enough to do [10:45] cool [10:46] he'll get tired of it after a while [10:46] sure [10:46] ai! [10:47] hi linux_shark [10:48] anchorfree.com is a VPN service [10:50] he is well connected [10:50] hardly [10:50] he's just a school kid who is used to finding VPNs and proxies to get around his school's firewall, if you ask me [10:51] playing cat and mouse :-) [10:53] now I need to get some lunch. inetpro, can you take over. although I figure that should stop most of him [10:53] np [11:08] i go eat === georgl_ is now known as georgl [11:21] superfly: he ran out of options? [11:24] hi somaunn [11:25] or effort [11:32] Who wants a copy of his life story he gave me in pm ? lol [11:34] Golynx: me! :D [11:35] Ok smile. Its about 142 lines, but most of its rubbish. [11:36] Golynx: let's have a look ;) [11:39] The copy/paste broke a few things , but its still readable. [11:41] Yes, I see :) [11:41] * smile has read it completely [11:41] Funny :p [11:41] He claims he knows everything :p [11:42] which can't be true :p especially about Linux [11:42] lol , ya so many lies in there. Aspecially about making 800k a year [11:44] Yeah, and the number of anitvirus products :p [11:45] He sound more like a 50 year old boy , who's in a mid life crisis lol [11:45] lol [11:53] yo yo yo whats hapnin peoples morning evenin etc etc [11:53] anybody awake ? [11:56] hi SUV [11:56] yo howdy [11:56] yo [12:10] * Golynx wish he can figure out the permissions system . ai [12:16] whats the prob now Golynx [12:19] I'm saving alot more data now that i got Opera mini on the emulator. So i wana save pictures and pages like i used to, but it dont detect the filesystem [12:20] you want to save stuff with an internet browser? [12:20] where is the stuff you want to save' [12:20] and where to [12:20] I guess its got windows C:\ filepaths hardcoded in the jars [12:21] Th emulator always detects the filesystem and creates a folder where it stores downloads. I dont think linux allows that [12:22] where do you want to save from [12:22] wb somaunn [12:22] Golynx, answer man [12:23] Anywhere [12:23] online? [12:23] opera downloads and saves to downloads folder [12:23] unless you chnge it [12:23] Nope on the pc [12:24] change [12:24] well on the pc dont use the browser [12:24] cut paste [12:24] Nope its on a java j2me emulator not the opera web browser [12:25] i dunno about that [12:26] I got the full source code for the emulator , but nothing showing in the source files about filepaths [12:26] So i assume it detects it automatically [12:27] ? [12:27] Will look for another emulator and see if that can access the linux filesystem [12:29] Most of the j2me emulators are made for windows pcs. grrrrr... [12:29] i dont even know what that is [12:31] Kilos: Java on steroids :p [12:31] Its the motorola v360 type phone apps , before smartphones were born :) [12:31] For old mobiles :p [12:31] lol smile [12:32] Golynx: they run on mine too :p [12:32] MIDP 2.0 is even supported! :p [12:33] haha ya, aslong as you got microedition midlet support in your java bundle on you smartphone you can play all those oldies [12:40] yo ops kiss my fat ugly hairy lilly white ass (_|_) ....screw with the bull you gonna get the horn ____~{,, ,,}0= [12:41] zalthar: hmm? :p why? :p [12:44] because superfly is a little wanker who's greatest accomplishments include living in mommies basement, fixing cellphones and banning okes like me who will end up pulling his pants down in public and giving him a bloody good hiding then pasting the video on youtube for the whole world to see. [12:44] hi guys [12:45] I see. :p [12:45] somaunn: hoi :p [12:45] :D [12:45] i love the mommie and daddies who try controll irc [12:45] what's on the desk [12:45] hi zalthar [12:46] yo dude [12:46] wazzup? [12:46] somaunn: programming in Gambas [12:46] bug fixing, mostly :p [12:46] there? :p [12:46] everbody knows irc belongs to the maniacs not the mommies and daddies [12:47] zalthar: you right [12:47] Gambas you said [12:47] somaunn: yes! :D [12:47] hi my name is superfly aka Raoul Snyman and i will get you :D [12:47] somaunn: im Gegensatz [12:47] * [12:47] Sorry [12:47] http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html [12:48] zalthar: I'm afraid now :p [12:48] :D [12:48] zalthar: that really necessary? [12:48] dont you love the cyber irc bully Aops lol ? [12:49] be good or we will ban you.. [12:50] this is your farther speaking inetpro aka Gustav Meyer your mom and i are wondering how long you are going to live in our basement :D [12:50] father* [12:51] ey you ops are 2 tense man lighten up a little [12:52] somaunn: never heard of Gambas before? :o [12:52] you insult people and then tell them to "lighten up"? [12:53] inetpro is so tense he wont even respond to a ping lol [12:54] * smile pings zalthar [12:54] "Ping reply from zalthar in 1.21 seconds." :p [12:54] You're on the other edge of the planet? :o [12:54] ya something like that [12:56] is it? :p [12:56] @ inetpro [12:57] smile: never worked with but i've seen the logo on the internet someday [12:57] :D [12:57] highvoltage: wb [12:57] It works great :) [12:57] But don't try to Stop events ;) [12:58] hi highvoltage [12:58] smile: no i will learn if it is the topic of the day [13:00] * smile sets the topic: Gambas [13:05] hi highvoltage [13:06] My S3 died [13:06] :/ [13:06] hey superfly [13:06] superfly: have you ever installed a custom ROM? [13:06] Squirm: on my S3? Running CM11 nightly [13:06] ok [13:06] I think mine is soft bricked [13:07] but I've tried everything [13:07] smile: he's using proxies to try to get back into the channel, and to spam myself and inetpro in private messages [13:07] I was running an Unoffical CM mod, my battery died last night, now it just gets stuck on the Samsung splash screen [13:07] :/ [13:07] Squirm: You still have a Samsung splash? [13:08] superfly: yes, that's all I get [13:08] I installed ClockworkMod [13:08] so had I [13:08] Oh right [13:08] Squirm: press+hold reset the power button [13:09] I had that once before... turned out I hadn't done a proper reboot in a while, just reboot-upgrades, and for some reason it got stuck somewhere... after I did a long hold on the power button it came right [13:09] meh, I think I've flashed my phone too much now not to do something more drastic [13:10] mine just cycled [13:11] Squirm: can you get back into recovery? [13:11] Squirm: I upgrade mine almost every night, but I use CM proper [13:13] I'm going to use CM proper from now, when I get it up [13:13] can't get into recovery any more [13:13] so I need to somehow use odin to reset my phone back to stock [13:13] nah, shouldn't need to [13:14] 530Mb/850Mb for the stock rom, which should work with odin [13:14] just hold down the right buttons (volume up + power + home, I think) till you see the samsung logo [13:14] it just cycles now [13:14] can't get into clockword mod [13:14] weird [13:14] can still get into download mode though, volume down [13:14] I've seen that on my own phone, was pretty simple to fix [13:14] I told you, I've flashed my phone too many times [13:15] I mean, flashed it too many times trying to fix it [13:15] Squirm: Did you flash CWM too, or just CM? [13:15] I tried using odin to flash CWM, that never worked [13:16] Squirm: I used heimdall [13:17] ok, where did you find CWM? [13:17] I looked at heidmall [13:18] but odin seemed easier [13:18] and the tuts all used odin [13:20] lo highvoltage long time no see [13:20] wb [13:20] hi Kilos [13:20] Squirm: remove the battery and do what superfly recommand you to do [13:21] hi Squirm [13:21] somaunn: tried that [13:21] it just cycles [13:27] Squirm: I don't have a Windows PC anywhere, odin was not an option [13:27] heimdall actually wasn't that difficult [13:27] superfly: yeah, I run linux, but my office borders 2 windows computer labs [13:28] I hope this flash works [13:28] I even lost all hope and tried kies [13:28] but that failed [13:30] i had the same issue weeks ago and did wipe cache, wipe etc, and wipe dalvik cache [13:30] oh yes, I remember doing that too... wiped cache and dalvik too [13:31] ai! [13:31] wb inetpro [13:31] what you broke [13:32] oops [13:32] pressed disconnect by accident [13:32] when I wanted to go to settings [13:32] lol [13:40] wbb [13:41] wb Kilos [13:41] ty Golynx [13:42] np [13:43] hi georgl [13:43] ah that fly came again back [13:44]