[00:00] <pleanbean> Should I partition it in the live OS or should I let it automatically partition during install?
[00:00] <hewhomust> live os
[00:01] <pleanbean> Ok... I have 8GBs of ram. Does this sound right?
[00:01] <pleanbean> Whoops. 8gb swap partition, and the rest ext4
[00:01] <hewhomust> yeah sounds k
[00:01] <hc0d3r> hi everybody
[00:02] <hewhomust> hi
[00:31] <ramborocks> im in virtual box running windows 2012 server and i have to press control alt del to get to the logon screen.. although control / alt del then brings up ubuntu shutdown screen
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> http://superuser.com/questions/116946/how-do-i-press-ctrlaltdelete-in-virtualbox
[00:32] <JENelson> ramborocks: ctrl/alt/del is activated in the guest by holding the RIGHT ctrl key and pressing DEL.
[00:33] <JENelson> there is also a pulldown menu option in the guest window to send ctrl/alt/del
[00:35] <ramborocks> ha!
[00:35] <ramborocks> it worked thanks hitsuji
[00:35] <ramborocks> Jen i had previously used the onscreen keyboard and that just was annoying
[00:35] <skjones> didn't i read about some controversy between ubuntu and Lubuntu?  anyone remember the details?
[00:36] <JENelson> ramborocks: i remember being frustrated until i learned the proper key sequence. :-)
[00:41] <pleanbean> I need some help. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and its booting into a black screen with a blinking white cursor at the top left. Not responding to any keys
[00:44] <phil-ns> pleanbean: try ALT F1
[00:44] <JENelson> pleanbean: boot from a usb stick or cdrom. re-run grub-install /dev/XXX specifying your device name for XXX
[00:45] <JENelson> pleanbean: also, make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the correct device.
[00:45] <pleanbean> JENelson, I'm selecting the boot device from within the BIOS, so I know its the correct device. Going to re-run that command now.
[00:48] <pleanbean> JENelson: It says "Path /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."
[00:49] <JENelson> hmm
[00:49] <JENelson> try using chroot first then grub-install
[00:49] <JENelson> mount /dev/XXX /mnt
[00:49] <JENelson> chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[00:50] <JENelson> --there's two tricky mount commands that go here--
[00:50] <pleanbean> I just installed boot-repair
[00:51] <JENelson> --google for them--they reuse /dev
[00:51] <JENelson> --and something else
[00:51] <JENelson> grub-install should now work
[00:53] <pleanbean> JENelson, which device do I want to install GRUB onto? /sda, which is my Windows drive, /sdb, which is my Ubuntu drive, or /sdb2, which is my root partition
[00:53] <laceless> Hello. I need help. I changed from Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 32-bit to Ubuntu 12.04.3 Server 64-bit. All is well except that I cannot run any binary file in command line.
[00:53] <MickMonkey> Helooo
[00:53] <JENelson> pleanbean: where did you install it before?
[00:53] <dvpalex> hi everybody!
[00:53] <MickMonkey> Ubuntu server 13.10 i386 doesn't allow my usb keyboad to be used
[00:54] <pleanbean> I installed it to /sdb
[00:54] <dvpalex> someone from brazil?
[00:54] <JENelson> pleanbean: that's where i would have installed it too. grub can boot into windows, but windows can't boot into grub
[00:54] <k1l> !br | dvpalex
[00:55] <dvpalex> tnks
[00:55] <MickMonkey> Aaany takers?
[00:56] <k1l> MickMonkey: does it work in bios?
[00:56] <MickMonkey> Yup
[00:56] <ramborocks> i cant get my audio / ethernet to work in virtual box
[00:56] <JENelson> MickMonkey. unplug keyboard. type lsusb. plug in keyboard. type lsusb. (assumes you have a second keyboard)
[00:57] <JENelson> what's the difference?
[00:57] <k1l> what hapens when you connect the usb keyboard? please show the dmesg output after that)
[00:57] <MickMonkey> But once in the OS neither of them works
[00:57] <MickMonkey> Like ever
[00:57] <JENelson> MickMonkey. Try plugging into a different usb port
[00:57] <pleanbean> JENelson: paste.ubuntu.com/6805995
[00:57] <MickMonkey> Did that
[00:57] <MickMonkey> and with another ones
[00:57] <MickMonkey> all of them doesn't work
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: will it work on a live cd?
[00:58] <MickMonkey> lol server isn't live
[00:58] <MickMonkey> But yes
[00:58] <MickMonkey> yes it does
[00:58] <JENelson> pleanbean: ok, stand by
[00:58] <Sleepnbum> if i switch from win8 to ubuntu, am i still gonna wanna kill myself over the lack of logic?
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: from the live cd can you pastebin the output of lspci -knn
[00:59] <gremlyn> so I just got a new laptop with 13.10 preinstalled
[00:59] <gremlyn> monitor on it looks great, but when I plug in my 23" second monitor to the hdmi port, it looks all washed out
[00:59] <gremlyn> looked fine when plugged into the old laptop
[00:59] <laceless> Hello, I need help. I changed from Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop 32-bit to Ubuntu 12.04.3 Server 64-bit. All is well except that I ***cannot run any binary file in command line anymore***. It says something about not finding the file. Even thought the file is there and I even specify an absolute path.
[01:00] <ramborocks> any idea why windows 2012 server wont run internet / audio on server?
[01:00] <MickMonkey> My pci dump?
[01:00] <MickMonkey> What would that accomplish
[01:00] <k1l> Sleepnbum: nope
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> MickMonkey: see what usb host controller you are using and what driver it loads for it
[01:01] <pleanbean> JENelson: boot-repair was successful. I'm now booting into Ubuntu
[01:01] <JENelson> pleanbean: yahoo!
[01:01] <ramborocks> im using ubuntu
[01:02] <pleanbean> My bigger issue is that I want my boot menu to show Windows and Ubuntu
[01:02] <MickMonkey> ahh
[01:02] <JENelson> pleanbean: how did you fix it?
[01:02] <pleanbean> JENelson: I just ignored the error, and rebooted...
[01:03] <JENelson> pleanbean: the errors with sdc are because it's a cdrom/dvd device, not a disk. you were correct to ignore the errors.
[01:04] <sk1special> ubuntu 12.04 , i was downloading a driver for my wireless card, and my internet cut out, then my laptop crashed, showed a bunch of red text, and now it does not show the driver when i go to download it again under settings > additional drivers
[01:05] <JENelson> pleanbean: the hexdump of sda1 is ok. "BOOTMGR is missing" is really supposed to be there; it will be displayed if is needed.
[01:05] <tomas_> gola
[01:05] <tomas_> hola *
[01:05] <Guest15159> tengo un problema con empathy
[01:06] <pleanbean> JENelson, anything I should do about that?
[01:06] <JENelson> pleanbean: about what? The BOOTMGR message? NO.
[01:07]  * laceless is back
[01:07] <JENelson> pleanbean: you have corrupted your windows boot on sda. grub is installed on sda *and* sdb
[01:07] <pleanbean> JENelson, I noticed that...I was hoping boot-repair fixed that. So now do I have to reinstall Windows?
[01:08] <JENelson> pleanbean: windows command line tools like fixmbr and fixboot could help.
[01:09] <TreeDB> hello everyone, I have a quick question, im trying to use tail however I need to remove the first 41 characters, how do I do that?
[01:10] <laceless> Whenever I try to execute a binary file in command line on 12.04 Server, it says something like "file not found. I did not have that problem on 12.04 Desktop.
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> TreeDB: thats more of a #bash question, but use awk substring for a posix compliant way of doing that
[01:13] <qin> laceless: you mean: command not found
[01:14] <laceless> -bash: ./minerd: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[01:14] <laceless> "no such file or folder found"
[01:14] <worldwide7477> wondering if anyone knows if xchat can use mirc color scripts
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: command are you doing to get that response?
[01:14] <k1l> laceless: what does "ls -al minerd" say?
[01:15] <laceless> ./minerd
[01:16] <laceless> -rwxrwxrwx 1 machintruc machintruc 379680 jan 21 23:24 /home/machintruc/Progs/minerd
[01:16] <k1l> laceless: are you in /home/machintruc/Progs/ ?
[01:17] <JENelson> laceless, what does "file minderd" say?
[01:17] <laceless> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xdd6392f744de0cec6323c610bdd2300851af2e5b, stripped
[01:17] <JENelson> laceless. good. now "ldd minerd"
[01:18] <JENelson> you'll get a lot of output. pay attention to any messages that complain about missing files
[01:18] <laceless> "not a dynamic executable"
[01:18] <laceless> wth
[01:19] <JENelson> laceless, what file is not a dynamic executable?
[01:19] <laceless> minerd
[01:20] <laceless> ldd's result
[01:20] <JENelson> laceless: sounds like the file minerd is corrupt.
[01:21] <JENelson> laceless: "readelf -e minerd"
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: whats the output of: uname -a
[01:22] <laceless> hitsujiTMO : Linux Orange2 3.8.0-35-generic #50~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 4 17:25:51 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:22] <laceless> my binaries are leftovers from my 32-bit partition
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: ensure i386 support is installed
[01:23] <laceless> well, I thought 64-bit OS could handle 32-bit binaries without hassle, can't they ?
[01:23] <JENelson> laceless, they can if you have the 32-bit shared libraries installed.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: dpkg --get-selections | grep multiarch
[01:24] <laceless> JENelson : installing readelf right now
[01:24] <JENelson> k
[01:25] <laceless> i installed binutils-multiarch
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: ensure multiarch-support is installed
[01:27] <laceless> binutils-multiarch and multiarch-support are installed
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: I'll go with that being compiled without ldd support then
[01:28] <pleanbean> JENelson, those commands kind of frighten me. Any other options?
[01:28] <pleanbean> Also, for some reason my second drive isn't showing up in my BIOS...
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> laceless: you're most likely just missing the 32bit deps. find it what they are and install. (add :i386) to the package name
[01:30] <laceless> I will take you people's input in consideration, but now I have to go. Bye
[01:30] <JENelson> pleanbean, you could just reinstall windows. or boot the Windows cdrom into "repair" mode, but I have never had much luck with that.
[01:30] <JENelson> pleanbean: your second hard drive is present but it isn't recognizable by windows
[01:30] <pleanbean> Its not Windows that not showing it, its my BIOS
[01:31] <JENelson> o i c. power off, reseat connectors. something may have come loose.
[01:32] <sk1special> any love with how to fix/install drivers for my wireless card?
[01:33] <pleanbean> Ok, now I have a weird issue. Basically, either drive I boot to goes to GRUB.
[01:33] <SchrodingersScat> !broadcom | sk1special
[01:33] <JENelson> pleanbean, Some BIOS can be configured to ignore drives. make sure yours says "auto" or something like that, for the sdb drive
[01:33] <pleanbean> And GRUB doesn't show my Windows drive. So I'm forced into Ubuntu.
[01:33] <sk1special> 12.04 , i was installing it already tho, internet disconnected, laptop crashed, and now it wont show up in the additional drivers menu
[01:34] <JENelson> pleanbean, i think you have to replace grub on sda with the windows boot loader. i *think* grub just chains to windows, so if the windows boot loader isn't there then grub can't find it.
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: are you able to get on with the wired connection?
[01:35] <sk1special> yeah wired works
[01:35] <pleanbean> So any way to boot into Windows to fix the Windows boot loader?
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci -knn pastebinit
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci -knn | pastebinit
[01:36] <JENelson> pleanbean, from another windows disk. or cdrom. :-)
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: second one sorry
[01:38] <pawprint> how can i use nc (netcat) to listen on port X on localhost and forward it to port Y on a remote machine?
[01:38] <jirido> Hi i would like to install pcmanfm 1.1.4 on my lubuntu 12.04 but when ./configure it complains about libpango beeing less then 1.16.0.. Is there any use that i try to compile pango 1.16.0+ or is it a dead projekt as 12.04 seems to sit with pcmanfm 0.9.10 that keep on crashing..
[01:39] <JENelson> pawprint: run two netcats. pipe the output of the first (listener) into the input of the second (sender)
[01:39] <pawprint> i tried that
[01:39] <pawprint> but i think that only creates communication one-way
[01:39] <pawprint> i want two-way communication
[01:40] <JENelson> can't be done.
[01:40] <JENelson> not like you want.
[01:40] <JENelson> you'd have to use iptables forwarding rules
[01:42] <Richhh> how do I do the equivalent of unplugging my wireless receiver and plugging it back in again, using the console?
[01:43] <Richhh> because I have to do that every time i a boot up at the moment, in order to connect
[01:43] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6806146/
[01:43] <Richhh> ie how do I reset my wireless connection?
[01:44] <blueingress> Hi Guys, How can I move/drag a window/application from top-left window to button-right window? Thanks
[01:44] <teward> Richhh: maybe find the interface name (eth0, wlan0, whatever), and to `sudo ifconfig INTERFACE down; sudo ifconfig INTERFACE up`, but that may be deprecated.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: rfkill list | pastebinit
[01:45] <rcw2> trying to upgrade my version of pg_dump. it is part of the postgre-xc-client package?
[01:45] <Richhh> teward: i think i tried that before and it didnt work as expected, ill wait briefly for any other replies before trying it again
[01:46] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, "you are trying to send an empty document"
[01:46] <zdwolfe> When using the --force-yes option in ubuntu, a package prompts for configuration with an ncurses menu. How would I automate a response to this?
[01:47] <JENelson> zdwolfe, what command? there should be an option to disable prompting
[01:47] <Richhh> teward: ok, thanks ill try it now
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: is that the same for: sudo rfkill list | pastebinit
[01:47] <zdwolfe> JENelson: apt-get install --force-yes <package> launches a debconf ncurses menu
[01:47] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, yeah same
[01:47] <zdwolfe> not evey package, just a specific one
[01:48] <Minnen> hello
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: then looks to be an issue with the driver. you might want to restart the process of installing the driver
[01:48] <JENelson> zdwolfe, try the option "--yes"
[01:49] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, yeah ..but it doesnt show it anymore in the additional drivers menu. how do i do it?
[01:49] <JENelson> zdwolfe, if that doesn't work, maybe both?
[01:49] <zdwolfe> JENelson: that's just an alias for --force-yes
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: yours is in the first batch
[01:51] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, mmk. do i need to uninstall whatevers on there somehow? or just follow whatever that says?
[01:51] <JENelson> zdwolfe, ok. is the debconf asking you to do something other than respond yes/no?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: i'm unsure what drivers it would have installed when you used jockey. try what it says there
[01:52] <pleanbean> JENelson, ok so repairing the Windows drive isn't working. What are my other options? Repartition and install?
[01:52] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, mmk. thanks
[01:52] <JENelson> pleanbean, yep. you could skip the repartition step if you like.
[01:53] <pleanbean> I don't have to repartition to fix MBR/grub issues?
[01:53] <JENelson> if you install windows it will automatically install its own boot loader, wiping out grub
[01:54] <JENelson> if you are paranoid, unplug sdb before you start :-)
[01:55] <zdwolfe> It looks like Ubuntu is ignoring the DEBIAN_FRONTEND environment variable for debconf. How can I set this?
[01:56] <JENelson> zdwolfe, no idea. Try "# DEBIAN_FRONTEND=xyzzy apt-get install foo"??
[01:58] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:01] <hoodedice> Hello
[02:01] <zdwolfe> JENelson: tried it, no luck
[02:01] <hoodedice> I'm running xubuntu off a USB drive due to lack of space on my main HDD
[02:02] <hoodedice> But it sucks at read speeds, so the OS lags.
[02:02] <hoodedice> I found THIS page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1867460 and I want to try it out
[02:02] <hoodedice> But where exactly is the 'option line of kernel' in grub.cfg ?
[02:05] <hoodedice> Anyone?
[02:05] <JENelson> hoodedice, you have to specify pci=acpi manually when you boot from the usb stick. Alternatively, google for instructions on "customizing your own usb boot" (or something like that)
[02:05] <hoodedice> manually, as in, run a command line or something from the boot menu?
[02:06] <Oobi_> help
[02:07] <Oobi_> i just installed ubuntu, because bill gates is rich enough
[02:07] <Oobi_> but i don't know how to minimize windows
[02:07] <hoodedice> (lol)
[02:07] <Oobi_> how do you minimize
[02:07] <JENelson> hoodedice, no. when you power on the PC and the device auto-boots from the usb stick... you have to break in and get a boot prompt so you can modify the kernel boot command. I don't know if you can do that with the usb boot process (i've never tried it)
[02:07] <Oobi_> make it smaller instead of fullscreen
[02:08] <hoodedice> The minus button on the left side
[02:08] <Oobi_> i don't see any minus button
[02:08] <Oobi_> it just goes straight from firefox to the sidebar
[02:08] <Oobi_> i'm using the newest verise
[02:08] <Oobi_> 13.10 i think
[02:08] <Oobi_> version
[02:08] <JENelson> Oobi_, double-click on the title bar of the window
[02:09] <JENelson> it's a toggle: full screen or not, where "not" is the size it was before you maximized it
[02:10] <hoodedice> Wait, not the minus... No plus button in ubuntu?
[02:10] <Oobi_> i hope ubuntu doesn't have NSA backdoors
[02:10] <hoodedice> Lol, no. But your ISP might.
[02:10] <net_tec> lol
[02:10] <Oobi_> time warner cable here
[02:10] <JoshuaP> lol
[02:10] <JENelson> hoodedice, depends on the display manager. Unity doesn't have them.
[02:10] <JoshuaP> comcast
[02:10] <Oobi_> is that a nice ISP, Or an evil one that gives everything you do to the NSA
[02:10] <hoodedice> Just turn off the amazon scopes and you're good to go
[02:11] <hoodedice> Hmm, I last used unity for 15 minutes a year ago... XD
[02:11] <Oobi_> or FBI or CIA or DHS or RIAA Or MPAA Or whatever
[02:12] <hoodedice> JE, USB boot process is same as HDD, because I actually 'installed' ubuntu into it. So, I'll reboot and try it out. Thanks
[02:13] <jirido> can i install multiple versions of a library without it is disturbs anything?
[02:13] <Oobi_> where do i find the hard drive space
[02:13] <Oobi_> in system settings
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | Oobi_ maybe you should have a read of this
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: that depends on the lib. which one is it?
[02:17] <net_tec> lol there's a manual
[02:17] <net_tec> he's thanks for the info
[02:17] <mojtaba>  Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:18] <pleanbean> JENelson: So I got Windows to boot smoothly. But GRUB still doesnt show the Windows drive
[02:18] <JENelson> mojtaba, print the text file and read it as you watch the movie?
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: a good way to find out is look at the conflicts: apt-cache show <packagename> | grep Conflicts
[02:19] <mojtaba> JENelson: I am looking for smarter solutions.
[02:19] <mojtaba> JENelson: I want to have it in the video's window.
[02:19] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: Thanks!
[02:20] <JENelson> mojtaba, good luck. i doubt you'll find any. the subtitles must obviously be timed to appear at the correct moment. unless you have that info, you're stuck. If you do have it, you could write a program to insert it into the mp4 at the appropriate spots. :-)
[02:21] <hoodedice> JENelson, that didn't work
[02:21] <mojtaba> JENelson: before I have seen, just by changing the name of the text file to the video file, the player was showing the text!
[02:21] <hoodedice> Partly because GRUB is darn confusing
[02:23] <mghola> anybody know much about test disk?
[02:23] <mghola> or photorec?
[02:23] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: if configure makes out ok is it strange if make says : cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
[02:23] <jirido> and dont make out
[02:25] <JENelson> pleanbean, now that you've reinstalled windows, boot ubuntu and run grub-mkconfig
[02:25] <JENelson> pleanbean, you should now see an entry for windows in the boot configuration
[02:27] <JENelson> pleanbean, if that doesn't work, go check out /etc/grub.d/README. There *is* a way, but you might have to enable it.
[02:28] <jirido> I try to install a newer pcmanfm and make seems to complain about : cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
[02:28] <pleanbean> Yeah, grub-mkconfig said some stuff about Windows. Now should I reboot and check?
[02:28] <hoodedice> JE, do you think GRUB customizer might help me here?
[02:28] <JENelson> hoodedice, "it didn't work" is not that useful. Do you have any more details?
[02:28] <jirido> make[4]: *** [libfm_gtk_la-fm-cell-renderer-text.lo] Fel 1
[02:29] <hoodedice> The GRUB config was too confusing. Also, the help wasn't very helpful.
[02:29] <JENelson> pleanbean, no, you don't have to. look at the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg. if windows is in there, you're all set
[02:29] <hoodedice> So, yeah, I couldn't config it
[02:29] <jirido> How could i get on from there?
[02:29] <pleanbean> JENelson, too late, already rebooted, and its not there.
[02:30] <JENelson> hoodedice, when the system boots do you see the grub boot menu?
[02:30] <hoodedice> No. I press Ctrl+C
[02:31] <JENelson> hoodedice, does anything happen? have you tried ESC?
[02:31] <pleanbean> JENelson: Windows is not in grub.cfg
[02:31] <hoodedice> And the GRUB pops up
[02:31] <hoodedice> Owait. Yes, the GRUB boot menu DOES pop up, sorry.
[02:32] <JENelson> hoodedice, ok, that's good. now type the letter 'e' on the boot item you want to change
[02:32] <hoodedice> Hmm, I do that
[02:33] <hoodedice> And then I press F2, or CTrl+C?
[02:33] <JENelson> hoodedice, no. you'll see another window with a bunch of lines. navigate to the one with 'vmlinuz' using arrow keys. append 'pci=acpi' at the end. press F10.
[02:34] <hoodedice> okay. Will try that now. Rebooting. Thanks
[02:34] <JENelson> hoodedice, yw
[02:35] <JENelson> pleanbean, check out /etc/grub.d/README and 30_os-prober
[02:36] <mojtaba>  Hi, I have a mp4 file and a text files with movide's subtitles. Do you know how can I see them while playing movie?
[02:38] <pleanbean> JENelson: I ran update-grub and it added the Windows 7 entries... Now the only issue is there are two Windows 7 entries (sda1 and sda2). How do I remove one?
[02:39] <siren_face2000> I've got a question here
[02:39] <somsip> mojtaba: the text file needs to be in a supported format for subtitles. Is it?
[02:39] <siren_face2000> is there a way that I can pre-install GRUB to either my external drive or my computer's hard drive?
[02:40] <mojtaba> somsip: what is that format? I have just typed the subtitle.
[02:41] <JENelson> pleanbean, you have two windows boot partitions. You could manually edit grub.cfg and remove one of them. you could initialize the partition you want to eliminate.
[02:41] <somsip> mojtaba: there are many. I suggest you do some research
[02:41] <mojtaba> ok, thanks.
[02:42] <hoodedice> JENelson, Thank you very much. The job was done, but I see no acceptable or even obvious changes in read speed. I guess that this means that the pci acpi thing does not affect my hardware and will now try running ubuntu from RAM. Thank you very much again.
[02:44] <pleanbean> JENelson, ok. What does "initialize the partition you want to eliminate" mean?
[02:45] <JENelson> hoodedice, glad to hear you were able to test the solution. you're welcome.
[02:46] <JENelson> pleanbean, do you want to completely eliminate one of the windows installations? if so,  you can reformat the partition. you will wipe out ALL files in that partition, windows and otherwise. make sure you have everything copied out of it first.
[02:46] <pleanbean> JENelson, no way, no need to do that. Just get rid of it in the grub menu.
[02:47] <JENelson> pleanbean, you're outside my level of experience. the file /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is the one that adds the windows entries. Maybe read it to see if there's a way to disable it from being entered? Oh oh oh..hang on
[02:48] <pleanbean> JENelson, grub.cfg specifically says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE". You sure I can manually edit it?
[02:51] <rcw2> for this 'http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/' here: 'Create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pgdg.list, and add a line for the repository' i need the correct exact url. can someone verify that this is correct for k13.10 64bit? http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/precise-pgdg/main/Contents-amd64.gz
[02:52] <dash444_> hi #ubuntu, this should be an easy question, but standard solutions not working. how can i completely reset/replace/reinstall unity to factory settings?
[02:52] <JENelson> rcw2, look at an existing file, copy a working entry, then modify to match what you were told. then try "apt-get update" to make sure it works.
[02:53] <rcw2> what file JENelson
[02:53] <rcw2> what existing file
[02:53] <IdleOne> dash444_: reinstall
[02:54] <JENelson> rcw2, any inside /etc/apt/ or /etc/apt/sources.list/
[02:55] <dash444_> IdleOne: clarification, 'without reinstalling'. i can create a new user with the settings with no problems, but my current user gets bad graphics when i click on "Dash Home", so how can i eliminate problem seen by current user?
[02:58] <dash444_> i want to reset USER_1's Unity settings so that i eliminate graphics problem when i used "Dash Home". curious, i can create a NEW_USER on the same machine and have no graphics problems with "Dash Home". how can i fix this?
[02:59] <octocodercat> Dash Home - is that like Rainbow Dash?
[02:59] <dash444_> octocodercat: "Dash Home" the top left button in the Launcher when using Unity Desktop
[03:00] <octocodercat> Rainbow Dash
[03:00] <octocodercat> yay
[03:01] <tree_samurai> Hey
[03:01] <tree_samurai> What's up?
[03:02] <wolfzrat> hi guys anyone here banned from a channel before
[03:02] <Logan_> !offtopic | wolfzrat
[03:03] <tree_samurai> Hey I have a question
[03:04] <tree_samurai> If I broke grub and Ubuntu nor super grub won't run, what are my options?
[03:04] <Gandi> what is /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf?
[03:06] <phil-ns> this upgrade to 13.10 is quite the treat eh? learned lots about config from it, even though my first *nix install was 1998
[03:08] <phil-ns> just 5 mins ago had to blow away my .Xauthority file, just to get back into a display manager
[03:09] <wolfzrat> Logan_, ubottu guys sorry for the incovientet of topic question wont happen again =0
[03:09] <zykotick9> phil-ns: do you use sudo with GUI apps?  most common cause of .Xauthority corruption (being owned by root).
[03:12] <tree_samurai> Sorry broke up
[03:12] <phil-ns> zykotick9: nope, in fact I eschew gui, last week I changed my system over to xfce and blew away all the gnome cruft completely, only xfce and only lightdm.
[03:12] <tree_samurai> I tried grub channel and nobody was there
[03:13] <phil-ns> zykotick9: the really sh!tty thing, I know exactly when it happened, one simple thing, I booted to my windows7 partition.
[03:13] <tree_samurai> Do any of u know grub
[03:13] <JENelson> tree_samurai, boot from usb stick or cdrom and run boot-repair
[03:14] <rcw2> hi, i just installed this: http://www.enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/pgdownload , and i have a directory here: /opt/PostgreSQL/9.3/bin that has pg_dump in the directory.  i run pg_dump from inside that directory but it says 'The program 'pg_dump' can be found in the following packages:......"  any suggestions?
[03:14] <tree_samurai> Ok thanks, will try USB, just didn't know if there was a better way
[03:14] <phil-ns> JENelson: hmm, boot-repair? was tree's issue he installed 13.10 and no longer had a windows partition?
[03:15] <tree_samurai> It isn't a boot repair issue though
[03:15] <slacko253281> umm
[03:15] <tree_samurai> Super grub should have fixed it, but nothing happened
[03:15] <phil-ns> fair enough, just asked cause I needed it last week after 13.10
[03:15] <phil-ns> and it works very well
[03:15] <tree_samurai> It was a old ver of ubuntu
[03:16] <JENelson> tree_samurai, oh wait. sorry, i didn't understand the problem.
[03:16] <phil-ns> ah yes, the grub 1.x vs grub 2.x
[03:17] <JENelson> tree_samurai, i guess you'll have to restate the problem. i am heading to dinner so I hope someone else can help.
[03:18] <tree_samurai> Ty
[03:20] <kbr729472> in my alt-F2 box, what would the command be to open a program that runs inside of the terminal, like midnight commander or ranger?
[03:20] <dash444_> hello, any ideas on resetting unity or deleting all unity's files and reinstalling? i have a graphics problem that only shows up for one USER in "Dash Home"
[03:20] <zykotick9> kbr729472: assuming xterm, try "xterm -e mc" type thing.  change xterm to your terminal emulator of choice.
[03:21] <Derzu> Someone knows moonos?
[03:21] <Gandi> if during install i click encrypt my home folder will /root folder also be encrypted? ubu 13.10
[03:22] <kbr729472> zykotick9: ya that did it, thank you. :)
[03:22] <kbr729472> didn't know about -e
[03:23] <Derzu> I can't install aditional driver in order to use wireless driver.
[03:23] <Derzu> How can I do that?
[03:45] <oo__> k
[03:49] <rostam> Hi I am trying to compile a package which reqiures a head file from boost library  version libboost1.49.-dev as part of quantal, but my system is on precise (12.04) how could I use that library in precise? thx
[03:51] <ramborocks> why cant i format my flash drive
[03:51] <ramborocks> i right click in ubuntu and go format and it doesnt do anything
[03:52] <oo__> k
[03:52] <Beldar> ramborocks, try the disks app or install gparted see if that works.
[03:53] <oo__> l
[03:54] <ramborocks> ahh just figured it out
[03:54] <ramborocks> had to unmount it lol
[03:56] <oo__> hi all
[03:56] <oo__> what is it?
[03:59] <phil-ns> it is what it is
[04:02] <siren_face2000> Hi!
[04:02] <siren_face2000> I have created a separate partition on my 3 TB external drive for GRUB
[04:03] <sk1special> if i do sudo apt-get upgrade it will Not upgrade me to the next release right?
[04:04] <siren_face2000> but, I want to know how to pre-install GRUB to the pre-made partition
[04:04] <zykotick9> sk1special: NO.  infact, even "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" WON'T upgrade you to the next release ;)
[04:07] <sk1special> zykotick9, ah mmk. just making sure. took me all day to fix this wireless card..didnt want to do it again
[04:09] <babinlonston> i want to setup squid proxy in our office, And How can i setup the proxy port in interface ? i don't want to setup the port in browser's because they used to change it, instead of it how can i configure the port in /etc/interfaces ?
[04:11] <siren_face2000> can someone help me pre-install grub?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: What do you meant by "pre-install"?
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I have made a dedicated partition on my external drive for GRUB
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I'm in Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[04:12] <siren_face2000> I have a 3 TB external drive
[04:13] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: I assume you're doing this because you plan to have multiple GNU/Linux distros installed and want grub to be in a separate partition so that any of them can be deleted without breaking grub. If that's not your end goal, please state your end goal.
[04:13] <siren_face2000> well, I am doing this separately from my windows hard drive.
[04:15] <siren_face2000> I used GParted to do it
[04:17] <siren_face2000> and I have downloaded & extracted GRUB 2 to the dedicated partition
[04:18] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: What is your end goal? Why not use the normal configuration of grub in Ubuntu? The normal configuration being: grub's images and grub.cfg in /boot/grub/, which is a directory in your root partition rather than on a separate partition, and (for BIOS systems) grub's boot sector in the MBR or (for UEFI systems) the grub efi binary in the EFI System Partition.
[04:18] <siren_face2000> should I just let the Ubuntu installer take care of that?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> siren_face2000: Yes.
[04:19] <siren_face2000> ok
[04:19] <siren_face2000> but I am running a UEFI system
[04:20] <siren_face2000> I did buy the external drive within the last year.
[04:25] <siren_face2000> about partitioning..... I need to figure out what partitions to make
[04:27] <vite> how do I change the file properties so that it can only be executed by the root?
[04:27] <LuffyMcFluffy> @vite use chmod
[04:27] <Jordan_U> !permissions | vite
[04:27] <vite> thanks
[04:28] <Jordan_U> vite: Depending on the current owner you may need a combination of chmod and chown. What file are you trying to make only executable by root and why?
[04:28] <vite> python script that auths me to the bitcoin-otc
[04:29] <vite> I want to be able to double click and make it run
[04:29] <vite> without having to open a terminal
[04:29] <Jordan_U> vite: You've just given two reasons why it *shouldn't* be run as root then.
[04:30] <RahulAN> Hii all
[04:30] <vite> well not the root. the owner of the file
[04:30] <Jordan_U> vite: That's very different :)
[04:31] <RahulAN> I am try ing to connect my HUWAii dongle but its not showing itself in network. but it is showing in lsusb that the device is connected.
[04:31] <RahulAN> I am unable to identify whats the problem is
[04:34] <jhutchins> !huwaii
[04:35] <jhutchins> Bother, we have something...
[04:35] <vite> now it opens a window with three options execute, execute in terminal, open
[04:35] <vite> the only one that works is view file
[04:39] <mrjuicybox> yo?
[04:44] <Gandi> how can i move /boot to a new parition?
[04:44] <Gandi> and make it work from there
[04:49] <ki7rw> why doesn't /ignore work in quassel?
[04:49] <JoshuaP> KI7MT: because the developers of quassel were too lazy to implement such a feature.
[04:50] <JoshuaP> ki7rw: ^
[04:50] <JoshuaP> KI7MT: sorry about that :/
[04:50] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[04:50] <vite> ok I got the permission for the file.py to executable and it runs
[04:51] <vite> from the command line
[04:51] <vite> but when I double click it does not work
[04:51] <RahulAN> jhutchins: Hmm, it is Tata photon CDMA Molile broadband connection
[04:51] <Beldar> !touch | harrisr
[04:51] <harrisr> BeldR #ubuntu-touchis not active
[04:53] <vite> nevermind I forgot to set the file.py to open with terminal
[04:53] <Beldar> harrisr, hmm, that is where the touch is supported.
[04:54] <harrisr>  No one ia talking in it i asked
[04:55] <tree_samurai> We'll
[04:55] <tree_samurai> This sux
[04:58] <Kalel> Greetings..
[04:59] <tree_samurai> Yes?
[04:59] <Kalel> You guys know something about Crystal HD firmware present on ubuntu repo?
[04:59] <Kalel> I'd llike to test it as a decoder to streams.. Is it a good idea:
[05:01] <Kalel> Lots souls, No live to give me a tip..
[05:01] <Kalel> Thank you anyway.
[05:01] <tree_samurai> Sorry
[05:01] <tree_samurai> Good luck
[05:01] <Kalel> I know
[05:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Only 72 hours until 13.04 support is gone, gone, gone!!
[05:13] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:14] <SonikkuAmerica> What's "square trade" warranty?
[05:14] <sk1special> "file system something something dev/cryptswap/something something is not yet ready or not present press s to skip mounting.." why do i get this?
[05:15] <harrisr> (harrisr) (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:15] <somsip> sk1special_: a HD is not being recognised for some reason? Check dmesg for more info, and possibly paste full error messages using paste.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <somsip> !touch | harrisr
[05:16] <harrisr> Somsip ubuntu-touch is a dead channel
[05:16] <sk1special_> somsip, idk its when first starting ubuntu, and everything seems to be working fine? im just scared something got installed on the usb stick i used to install it instead of the hdd
[05:17] <SonikkuAmerica> sk1special_: I'm guessing something happened to your swap space, but I can't place a finger on it...
[05:17] <somsip> harrisr: it is the place for discussion about ubuntu touch whether it's alive or not right now.
[05:17] <somsip> sk1special_: I suggested what you need to look at already
[05:18] <sk1special_> somsip, how do i do that? like now in terminal? or when its starting or?
[05:19] <somsip> sk1special_: you can 'dmesg | less' then scroll through, or search using '/swap' or '/error' or something like that
[05:21] <sk1special_> somsip, EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[05:23] <somsip> sk1special_: looks normal. Before I suggest t9o paste the whole thing (not here), is swap currently enabled?
[05:23] <sk1special_> somsip, dont know?
[05:24] <manju> hi guys
[05:24] <manju> i have problem on ubuntu server
[05:25] <somsip> sk1special_: and I found this which seems the same as your error. Have a read through. http://is.gd/dgaLcG
[05:25] <sk1special_> lemme restart and get the exact message brb
[05:28] <jKlaus> Hey guys, I was wondering if anything ever happened with the Ubuntu Mini PC?
[05:30] <idowi> is anybody familiar with a bug in intel USB 3.0 controller drivers? it seems lots of usb devices have problems with these controllers.
[05:31] <sk1special> "the disk drive for dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not yet ready or not present" " continue, skip, or wait"
[05:32] <somsip> sk1special: the link I posted might still apply
[05:35] <sk1special> somsip,i dont think so? it shows my swap as having space to use just none used
[05:35] <Habster> can someone help with changing language to english, I cant read the menu options in control panel, for doing the switch
[05:35] <somsip> sk1special: what, exactly, shows that?
[05:36] <ezrhino> hello. Is Ubuntu recycle bin delete a true secure delete?
[05:36] <somsip> ezrhino: no
[05:36] <ezrhino> can it be ?
[05:37] <sk1special> somsip, ah free -m , and under swap: shows 1980 total, used 0 , 1980 free. unless im looking at the wrong thing?
[05:37] <ezrhino> similar to Windows and SDelete
[05:37] <oo_> s
[05:38] <ezrhino> can i disable showing a windows contents when dragging ?
[05:38] <somsip> ezrhino: I understand that 'shred' is the command you need. I suppose you could replace the recycle bin icon with a custom launcher using shred: eg, http://is.gd/InCo9I
[05:38] <ezrhino> ty, somsip
[05:38] <SonikkuAmerica> oo_: s == secure
[05:38] <oo_> thx
[05:39] <SonikkuAmerica> oo_: At least in "SDelete" it does
[05:40] <oo_> how to install tar.gz?
[05:40] <somsip> oo_: what package is it?
[05:52] <rxwy00> exit
[05:52] <sk1special> no more thoughts?
[05:53] <thom_r> Anyone here have iTunes installed with Wine?
[05:54] <qin> !winehq
[05:59] <somsip> sk1special: I don't have an answer, but searching for your exact error message brings loads of possibly helpful information: 'the disk drive for dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not yet ready or not present' Maybe that is something you can look at while waiting for help from someone who knows the answer
[05:59] <ruth> guys, I found online some commands to make netflix work. I didn't get pipelight out of our software. How can I  delete  it in the terminal?
[06:01] <sk1special> somsip, yeah no worries. just thought you might have another idea, thank ya for the help
[06:09] <ruth> Hi, I found online pipelight to make netflix work not knowing we had pipelight in our software center. I want to delete what I put in the terminal and download it from our software.
[06:10] <ruth> I should say that I want to delete the commands I put in the terminal.
[06:11] <pradnesh> What did you type to install?
[06:12] <ruth> Let me find the site real quick.
[06:13] <ruth> WEB UPD8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html        here are all the commands for netflis
[06:14] <ruth> just a series of commands
[06:15] <pradnesh_> ruth: your issue is sorted?
[06:16] <ruth> What do you mean by "sorted"?
[06:20] <Muneeb> hi
[06:27] <[LA_CONEJITA> --• -.- •--
[06:27] <grahamsavage> i'm using ubuntu and chrome
[06:28] <grahamsavage> my internet connection is terrible and i suffer from very large packet loss... this for some reason affects the entire operating system.  windows take a long time to paint
[06:28] <grahamsavage> things run slowly.. all while cpu and memory are normal
[06:28] <Muneeb> #freenode
[06:29] <grahamsavage> I have 4 cpu's most of which run on very little... i have 32gb of memory (only 11.6gb used)
[06:29] <grahamsavage> packet loss is around 41%
[06:30] <_1_htds> sesso
[06:31] <EminentDomain> anyone here know anything about using mdadm to configure software RAID?
[06:33] <Elembis> I tried upgrading to 12.10 on a laptop with a non-PAE CPU, and now I appear stuck: chrooting from a liveCD tells me the distribution is 12.10, but I can't install linux-image-generic, since it depends on linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic, which doesn't support non-PAE CPUs.
[06:34] <SonikkuAmerica> You would be right...
[06:35] <Elembis> lsb_release -a says 12.10, quantal.
[06:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Elembis: There is a Lubuntu remix on the way that "fakes" the PAE so that the latest kernel is installable
[06:36] <Elembis> How can I just get back to 12.04?
[06:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Elembis: Get a 12.04 Live image and reinstall...
[06:36] <Elembis> >_<
[06:37] <Elembis> That will work, it's just annoying. Thanks for your help.
[06:38] <SonikkuAmerica> :) yw
[06:54] <sk1special> so did all this stuff .. http://tinyurl.com/k7zd37g , didnt fix it
[06:56] <phong__> hi guys, why ubuntu is getting slower
[06:56] <phong__> i have 13.10
[06:56] <phong__> used to be fast at 10.x up
[06:57] <somsip> phong__: did you reinstall or upgrade?
[06:57] <phong__> install fresh
[06:57] <phong__> take sometime to boot to windows screen
[06:57] <phong__> weird
[06:57] <phong__> and i have so fast system
[06:57] <somsip> phong__: so once it's started up it;s fine?
[06:57] <phong__> yeap
[07:00] <phong__> is there a good 3d test for ubuntu?
[07:00] <phong__> i have GTX 580
[07:01] <phong__> i think ubuntu will run well on SSD
[07:01] <phong__> not on disk
[07:02] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:03] <Xiaclo> Does anyone know how df calculates usage?  tune2fs has a different idea of total space (free and used are even further off)
[07:10] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am trying to run ubuntu in a VMWare virtual machine, but it is awful choppy. Can I fix this?
[07:12] <somsip> JordanJ2: how much memory have you given it? What is the host machine spec?
[07:12] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:14] <JordanJ2> somsip: 2GB I gave it
[07:14] <pope_2424> hello, does anyone know how to download latest version of chromium?
[07:15] <somsip> JordanJ2: should be plenty. So you're running a GUI with it? Could it be a video RAM issue (I've never used a GUI on VM so I'm guessing here)
[07:17] <JordanJ2> I am using a GUI, yes
[07:17] <mobiesoba> hey is there a guide to turning a laptop with 2 NICs into a router?
[07:18] <siren_face2000> I am SO mad at myself
[07:18] <JordanJ2> I am running also a 126MB VPS would it be a good idea to load Ubuntu and have plenty of RAM left over?
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I damaged my external drive, can't fix the bad sectors, and I hate my computer's BIOS.
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I also hate Intel.
[07:19] <siren_face2000> I should've gotten an AMD computer like I had the last time I bought one.
[07:20] <siren_face2000> I am so mad at myself it's unbelievable.
[07:21] <siren_face2000> sorry if I'm ranting
[07:24] <somsip> siren_face2000: it's probably time to stop now.
[07:33] <BigBang> Hi guys. I'm trying to install Ubuntu. But my network interface doesn't get any DHCP-config. How can I fix that?
[07:35] <Guest35004> Has anybody an idea?
[07:42] <Guest35004> Why doesn't get my computer dhcp-configuration data during Ubuntu-Installation?
[07:42] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <Seveas> Guest35004: because your DHCP server is failing?
[07:50] <TamCore> Guest35004: maybe your cable isn't plugged in? :D
[07:53] <Guest35004> TamCore: No it's plugged in.
[07:54] <Guest35004> How can I fix this? I've no idea
[07:57] <makara> Guest35004, give more info about your pc
[07:58] <makara> Guest35004, open a terminal. Can you do that?
[08:00] <Guest35004> makara: Now I've a terminal open. What do I have to do now?
[08:00] <makara> sudo -i
[08:00] <makara> ifconfig
[08:01] <makara> tell me the name of the interfaces you see. Should be 2 or 3
[08:01] <Guest35004> makara: ok
[08:01] <Guest35004> makara: what now?
[08:02] <makara> the names of the interfaces please
[08:02] <makara> left column
[08:02] <Guest35004> eth0 and lo
[08:02] <makara> what version of Ubuntu?
[08:02] <Guest35004> Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy)
[08:03] <makara> Guest35004, for eth0, is there an `inet addr` ?
[08:03] <Guest35004> makara: Unfortunately no
[08:03] <makara> that's good
[08:03] <makara> means you haven't set a hard IP
[08:03] <Guest35004> makara: Ok :). What do I have to do now?
[08:03] <makara> status network-manager
[08:04] <Guest35004> makara: running
[08:04] <makara> Guest35004, what router are you using?
[08:04] <Guest35004> makara: I'm in a company. I don't know.
[08:05] <Guest34922> Remember me ... the guy who couldn't empty his Trash?  I tried a new approach ... through Nautilus (on my computer, it comes up as "Files") I got in the directory /.local/share/Trash/ and clicked on the icon for the subdirectory "files".  Before, it would just hang with "preparing to delete" for hours on end.  Now it is listing the files it is preparing to delete ... by the time soneone responds
[08:05] <Guest34922> it'll have reached 1,500,000 files and 19.9GB
[08:05] <Guest34922> That scares me ...
[08:06] <makara> Guest34922, sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/
[08:06] <makara> Guest35004, you need to speak to the admin then
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: I've tried so many things, including your suggestion
[08:07] <makara> Guest35004, do you know the IP of the router at least>
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: And it hadn't worked
[08:07] <makara> Guest34922, it will work, but some process is broken. You need to deal with that
[08:07] <Guest34922> makara: Why, though, is it telling me that it is preparing to delete 1.5 million files?
[08:08] <Guest34922> makara: And how do I fix that?
[08:08] <somsip> Guest34922: someone yesterday was deleting 12GB and millions of files and having probs. He used 'doublecmd'. No idea what it is but might help (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/01/23/%23ubuntu.txt)
[08:08] <Guest34922> makara: I mean ... deal with that
[08:08] <makara> Guest35004, you can try set a static IP
[08:09] <lisberoia> Double Commander gives problems when deleting massively -- my personal experience
[08:09] <Guest34922> somsip: Up until this last try, I was NOT able to empty the trash
[08:09] <makara> Guest34922, so nautilus is screwed. Use Marlin or something
[08:09] <Guest35004> makara: Say the IP is 10.1.3.30. How can I fix my problem?
[08:10] <somsip> Guest34922: if it's empty now, fine. If you're still struggling, I offered a suggestion
[08:10] <Guest34922> somsip: Thx
[08:10] <sk1special> so since im bored of my other issue. can anyone tell me why my wireless network only shows up when i click hidden networks? and Its not showing as hidden anywhere else
[08:10] <makara> Guest35004, you set your ip to 10.1.3.50: stop network-manager & ifconfig eth0 10.1.3.50
[08:11] <zooptwo> Hello, I am having problems getting a system to boot.  It is hanging saying that it cannot mount a remote CIFS share.  Although that share is accessable, and the network interface on the box being booted is online and pingable.  Wondering if someone knows a trick. ;)
[08:11] <Guest34922> somsip: It isn't empty, it just tells me that it is preparing to delete ... and telling me how many files (didn't know I had space for so many files) and the size.
[08:11] <CookiesRgooD> hey there guys
[08:11] <makara> Guest35004, but there might be conflict with another client on your subnet who has been assigned that address from the DHCP
[08:11] <CookiesRgooD> i have a quick question for all of you.
[08:11] <makara> Guest35004, so you need to know what range of IPs are in use, and which are open
[08:11] <Guest34922> somsip: I will leave that option (double commander) open if I can't find another solution
[08:12] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:12] <makara> zooptwo, CIFS shouldn't be necessary at boot. You can remove it from /etc/fstab
[08:13] <somsip> Guest35004: read up on it if you are going to use it. It's 'doublecmd'
[08:13] <zooptwo> Yea, but I can't get it to boot.
[08:13] <zooptwo> to change it.
[08:13] <CookiesRgooD> any thoughts?
[08:13] <makara> zooptwo, boot from live CD
[08:13] <zooptwo> Unfortunately it is at a datacenter.
[08:14] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:14] <zooptwo> Thanks though.
[08:14] <makara> zooptwo, I messed up the fstab once, and we were able to mount the virtual disk onto another instance, edit the fstab, and put it back again
[08:15] <makara> zooptwo, that was with Amazon. Not sure how flexible your provider is?
[08:15] <CookiesRgooD> i've setup a static ip with ssh into my RPI. When I attempt to connect my wifi dongle, my RPI seems to not connect via eth0. Would anyone be able to explain to me why?
[08:15] <zooptwo> No worries just didn't know if there were any other tricks.  I will figure a way to get it on a live CD
[08:15] <zooptwo> Was thinking of shutting the switchport interfaces down to make the network actually down.  Then maybe it would pass that point.
[08:16] <mikeirc> Is someone can know how to connect by default with the last used network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:17] <CookiesRgooD> anyone?
[08:18] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: are you referring to setting up your Raspi, or a ubuntu machine to connect to it?
[08:18] <tapamo> how to connect by default with the last network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:18] <CookiesRgooD> rpi
[08:18] <CookiesRgooD> raspi
[08:18] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: this is ubuntu support. You need a raspi support channel
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> i was told you guys might be able to help me out since its somewhat close
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> but if you guys dont know.
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> lol true
[08:19] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: someone was having you on. Try a raspi channel. The forums are very good
[08:19] <Thrasymachus> 2224/j raspi
[08:19] <CookiesRgooD> sounds good. thank you
[08:21] <tapamo> how to connect by default with the last network profile on ubuntu 13.10
[08:21] <vincenzoml> Hi all. I have a laptop with only ubuntu 13.10, booting on UEFI since I previously had windows (RIP). I just installed ubuntustudio but the system still boots the previous system
[08:22] <EmirX> hello people... I just need a quick tip... How do I manualy enter location in gnome-commander, like I would do in totatl commander on windows ?
[08:24] <tapamo> Hi to all
[08:24] <vincenzoml> on the ubuntustudio channel I learned that ubuntustudio's default kernel is not signed; how could I add some boot stanza to ubuntu's grub to boot the other distributions' grub?
[08:24] <tapamo> I have a problem with my network connection on ubuntu 13.10
[08:25] <tapamo> how to connect with the last used network profile ?
[08:25] <tapamo> by default of course
[08:27] <TJ-> vincenzoml: If it's another grub you could use 'chainloader +1' with the appropriate "set root=hdx,partY" prior to it
[08:27] <zooptwo> I have anotheer question the,  For some reason when the system is booting I never See the Grub Menu.  Is there something I am missing?
[08:27] <TJ-> zooptwo: By default GRUB menu is hidden unless you're pressing Shift key as GRUB starts
[08:27] <zooptwo> awesome!
[08:27] <vincenzoml> TJ: do you mean, by editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom ?
[08:27] <zooptwo> thanks ;)
[08:28] <zooptwo> Just need to pass the single user mode option.
[08:28] <vincenzoml> TJ: do you have a link to an example?
[08:29] <TJ-> vincenzoml: There's a better way, to avoid "update-grub" messing with it... just add your "other OS" 'menuentry' stanza in "/boot/grub/custom.cfg"
[08:30] <defk53> is their a way to rollback unity to earlier versions? Have tried looking everywhere. none seems to be talking about it. (http://bfiller.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/unity-2d-apps.png)
[08:30] <vincenzoml> TJ-: that file does not exist, shall I create it and add a "menuentry "..." {" there directly and then update-grub?
[08:30] <TJ-> vincenzoml: I don't, mainly because it is very trivial to do: "menuentry 'Chainload Other GRUB' { ; set root='hd1,gpt2' ; chainloader +1: }; "
[08:31] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Yes... create by hand ... if you look at "/etc/grub.d/41_custom" you'll see if includes code in the main grub.cfg that'll read "/grub/custom.cfg" at boot-time
[08:31] <UbuntuUser1234> Is it possible to disable USB charging of an attached device on Ubuntu?
[08:32] <TJ-> vincenzoml: s/if includes/it includes/
[08:32] <vincenzoml> TJ-: done that now, and update-grub seems to have given a positive reply, thanks! I'll reboot just in seconds
[08:32] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. The device decides to charge, the power on the port is a requirement of the USB standard
[08:32] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Before you reboot...
[08:32]  * vincenzoml is listening
[08:33] <Merrrrs> hey I have a question
[08:33] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Just "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and confirm that there are lines referring to including "custom.cfg" appearing at the end of the file
[08:33] <vincenzoml> TJ-: thanks, they're there, shall I reboot?
[08:33] <TJ-> vincenzoml: If you've set root correctly, sure :)
[08:34] <UbuntuUser1234> TJ-: This other device is a Nexus 7 tablet with Ubuntu Touch. Have you any idea can I somehow command it to stop charging?
[08:34] <Merrrrs> I searched the ubuntu wiki, but I did not see instructions on how to make a backup image of my HDD using 'dd'
[08:34] <Merrrrs> I have a 60gb SSD
[08:34] <Merrrrs> Anyone know how?
[08:36] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what's the plan, what do you need the backup for and how to you intend to use it ?
[08:36] <Thrasymachus> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=backup+hard+drive+dd
[08:36] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I have an external HDD (1TB). I want to make a backup of my HDD.
[08:37] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: that's not helpful
[08:37] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#Backup_with_dd
[08:37] <Merrrrs> I figured it should be easy, seeing as I only have a 60gb SSD
[08:37] <Merrrrs> **backup of my SSD
[08:37] <ikonia> Merrrrs: first thing to consider is how you plan to use this backup once you have it
[08:37] <Thrasymachus> the three top links all explain it!!
[08:37] <ikonia> is dd the right option for you
[08:37] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I want to keep it on my external HDD just in case. I want to use this project also, as a learning tool. So I can make weekly backups of my SSD
[08:37] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: stop it - try to actuall help the users end goal rather than just google links that you've not actually verfieid fit his need
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, but if your hard disk fails, how do you plan to use the backup ?
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: is it simpley for a whole system recovery, or for file recovery too
[08:38] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I have an SSD.
[08:38] <Merrrrs> ikonia, And system recovery
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: yes you've said that, repeating it doesn't really answer the questions
[08:38] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what will you do if your hard disk fails ?
[08:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia, What do you mean?
[08:39] <cristian_c> How can I add a discussion group type account in Sylpheed?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> my SSD?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> or my External HDD?
[08:39] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:39] <ikonia> Merrrrs: yes, if your SSD fails how will you use the recovery image to get your system back ?
[08:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I don't know. Nor do I really care.
[08:39] <Merrrrs> Probably buy a new SSD?
[08:40] <Merrrrs> Sorry if that sounded condescending/sarcastic
[08:40] <ikonia> Merrrrs: you should care as your planned recovery position will determain if a dd backup is of any use to you or not
[08:40] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. You'd have to ask Samsung
[08:40] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I figured if I borked something on my system, I could just restore to the image I made, using 'dd'
[08:41] <TJ-> UbuntuUser1234: No. You'd have to ask s/Samsung/Google/
[08:41] <Merrrrs> I like to tinker
[08:41] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, so the concept you want is fine, but you need to be aware of things
[08:41] <Merrrrs> ikonia, ok. I have an encrypted /home
[08:41] <Merrrrs> does that make a difference?
[08:41] <ikonia> Merrrrs: such as if you swap the disk to a different disk dd is a block by block image of your disk, including things like partition table and private region
[08:41] <Merrrrs> ikonia, perfect. That's what im looking for.
[08:42] <Merrrrs> I will also keep config files & stuff like that backed up weekly. I use tar for that
[08:42] <Merrrrs> I know this is a bit overkill, but I enjoy making backups
[08:42] <ikonia> so if your disk you swap your ssd out with is slightly different, eg: different make/model/size you will have problems as the image won't go back "block by block" the same
[08:43] <ikonia> Merrrrs: also you shouldn't be taking dd images while the system is in use, you should be booting from a remote media, such as a livecd to take an image of the disk while the operating system on that disk is not running
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Understandable. I did not know that. If that happens, I'll find another solution
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thanks for that also
[08:43] <ikonia> Merrrrs: hence why I'm asking you to think at least a little bit about what you want to achieve
[08:43] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Make a backup of my SSD. It's only 60gb
[08:44] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Nothing else, right now. My SSD is doing fine. If it fails 6 months down the line.. So be it.
[08:44] <ikonia> you've said that about 3 times, I understand that, but I'm trying to help you see that there is more thought than "I want a backup"
[08:44] <ikonia> fine then, boot from a remote media, dd the device file to an output file on your second disk
[08:44] <ikonia> prepare for problems with your encyrpted home
[08:44] <ikonia> job done
[08:44] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thats what I need help with. Thats why Im asking for help
[08:44] <Merrrrs> I have an encrypted home.
[08:44] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what's not clear ?
[08:45] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what part of the process do you need help with ?
[08:45] <Merrrrs> ikonia, A bit of help with the syntax... & What I should do about my encrypted /home
[08:45] <ikonia> Merrrrs: what do you think the syntax is ?
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: you said you like to tinker so you must have checked the dd syntax before asking
[08:46] <TJ-> Merrrrs: You could consider using LVM snapshots, which would allow you to do live backups of the snapshots see e.g. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshots_backup.html
[08:46] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Something along the lines of dd if=/dev
[08:46] <Merrrrs> or something like that
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: bit more than that
[08:46] <Merrrrs> idk
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: so what's the command you've got now
[08:46] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, so check the syntax, come up with an attempt and we can move forward from there
[08:46] <BigBangTheoryX> Hi guys. How can I find out which Desktop/Windowmanager is installed?
[08:47] <MrQuist> BigBangTheoryX, look at monitor. See mouse? Yes. No mouse? No.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I couldn't find any documentation on the syntax of 'dd' itself.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> Maybe you could post an example on pastebin?
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: man dd
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: maybe read man dd and get an idea
[08:47] <MrQuist> BigBangTheoryX, j/k - you could use aptitude to check on installed packages
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: rather than ask to be spoonfed
[08:47] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Debian man pages are shit.
[08:47] <Merrrrs> I dont like being spoonfed
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: no they are not,
[08:47] <vincenzoml> TJ-: a big thanks! I am now online from ubuntustudio
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: and there is no need to swear
[08:47] <TJ-> vincenzoml: Great to hear :)
[08:47] <ikonia> Merrrrs: and if you don't like to be spoonfed read the basics of the command
[08:48] <ikonia> Merrrrs: there are also man pages online
[08:48] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Ok dude. Whatever. Could you maybe just post an example on pastebin? Ill leave you alone after that
[08:48] <ikonia> Merrrrs: no, you said you like to tinker, so do some research, get a basic idea and if you have problems we'll correct them
[08:48] <BigBangTheoryX> What do I have to install besides Gnome3 to work Gnome3 under Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy)?
[08:48] <Thrasymachus> do some research using google ;-)
[08:49] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I run OpenBSD. This laptop is for uni. Im not a pro, but I know my way around the terminal.
[08:49] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: I see we return to that
[08:49] <ikonia> Merrrrs: ok, so you should be able to read a man page either in the terminal or online
[08:49] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Just fuck off
[08:50] <TJ-> Merrrrs: ikonia has given you the information you need, if you intend using a tool with the destructive capabilities of 'dd' then its up to you learn its options, and the man-pages are *the* place to do for such information and expanded explanations. That and "dd --help" of course.
[08:50] <OerHeks> BigBangTheoryX, just the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package AFAIK
[08:50] <gordonjcp> TJ-: gone
[08:50] <TJ-> gordonjcp: indeed
[08:50] <gordonjcp> TJ-: also "doesn't want spoon fed", wants an example posted on pastebin
[08:50] <gordonjcp> cognitive dissonance much?
[08:51] <Thrasymachus> I tried to avoid all this
[08:51] <TJ-> Sounds like someone that expects someone else to do their work for them
[08:52] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: it would appear so
[08:53] <Thrasymachus> lmgtfy
[08:53] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: it's not cool to approach it like that though
[08:53] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: try to get a bit of context and actuall post valid trusted links
[08:53] <ikonia> not lmgtfy links (please)
[08:54] <BigBangTheoryX> How can I install Gnome3 from Ubuntu-CD?
[08:54] <BigBangTheoryX> Not from the Internet
[08:54] <ikonia> I don't think it's on the ubuntu cd
[08:54] <Thrasymachus> I know, you are right, high road and all that.  I am not as generous and patient, but I admire your efforts to help, and the community needs that
[08:55] <Thrasymachus> I wasn't trying to help, I was trying to say he should figure it out for himself
[08:55] <BigBangTheoryX> ikonia: I've to type "apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop" right?
[08:55] <ikonia> BigBangTheoryX: did you just read what I said ?
[08:55] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: ok, maybe try to not do that in future please.
[08:55] <OerHeks> BigBangTheoryX, there is a ubuntu gnome desktop iso > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.10/release/
[08:56] <ikonia> OerHeks: is that actually production ready ?
[08:56] <gordonjcp> ikonia: I don't understand the antipathy towards "lmgtfy" responses, to be honest
[08:56] <OerHeks> ikonia, as of 13.04
[08:56] <gordonjcp> ikonia: about 90% of the questions in here can be answered by the first hit on Google
[08:57] <Thrasymachus> sort of my point
[08:57] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, not all users have access to google.
[08:57] <Thrasymachus> though again I admire ikonia's generosity
[08:57] <ikonia> gordonjcp: also it's not really thought out responses though it's key words, you don't know if those links are good or answer the real question, just firing words into google and posting them blindly to people - not cool
[08:58] <ikonia> gordonjcp: in this case though a basic grasp of dd could have been found from the fist hit - no doubt
[08:58] <Thrasymachus> no, they should type it into google and judge the results themselves--that's the point of lmgtfy
[08:58] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: they are asking for help because they "can't" judge it
[08:59] <ikonia> but in this case it was just lazy - I agree
[08:59] <gordonjcp> ikonia: or as you suggested reading the man page
[08:59] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: how would they have access to IRC but not Google?
[08:59] <ikonia> exactly
[08:59] <Thrasymachus> man page --even better of course
[08:59] <Thrasymachus> anyway, sorry for the impishness ikonia
[08:59] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I mean, I quite often have IRC but not web, but that's because I do insane stuff like connect to a terminal server over a 1200bps radio modem from 50 miles out
[09:00] <ikonia> Thrasymachus: not a problem.
[09:01] <EmirX> exit
[09:01] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, i have no examples about country/organisation/school networks that do not connect ( without tricks) but there are some
[09:03] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I'd be really surprised to see something that blocked google but not IRC
[09:04] <jam3sm> hmm i installed 12.04.3 but when i do a update of software then install proprietry drivers for nvidia and then srestart i get stuck at the black screen with a cursor like its looking for a os that it cant find did i do something wrong?
[09:05] <jam3sm> ps, my hardware - i7-2600, nvidia gtx 580, 1tb hdd - windows 8 on 360gb part rest is for linux, 12gb ram gskill, xonar dg sound card,
[09:05] <kibibyte> i
[09:05] <kibibyte> hi
[09:05] <kibibyte> can someone help me: i have a diff file of 2 directories, now i want to make target directory looks the same as orginal based on this diff
[09:05] <kibibyte> is it possible?
[09:05] <FloodBot1> kibibyte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <jam3sm> how was that flooding?!?
[09:07] <kibibyte> yeah
[09:07] <yoyo09kh3> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04, apache + php.  I have some CSV files that I want php to have access to but I don't want browseable / downloadable by visitors.  I'm gonna create a new folder in which to store the CSVs but am unsure re permissions to set on the folder??
[09:07] <kibibyte> buggy bot
[09:07] <TJ-> jam3sm: How long does the black screen remain? how long do you wait? sometimes there's a temporary black screen when the splash-screen is supposed to be there, but eventually the log-in screen appears
[09:08] <BigBangTheoryX> What's the difference between "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[09:08] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: "dist-upgrade" will install "new" replacement packages
[09:08] <riyan__> plis help me setting pcsx2
[09:09] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Can you explain the difference in more detail, please (for a beginner)
[09:09] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: e.g. if libX2 has had a version upgrade to libX2 which would break the previous interfaces
[09:09] <jam3sm> do i need to re-install ubuntu since the update fails to find a os on reboot
[09:09] <KI7MT>   BigBangTheoryX Here's a pretty good explination: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194651/why-use-apt-get-upgrade-instead-of-apt-get-dist-upgrade
[09:10] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: "upgrade" will only do upgrade packages that don't introduce breakages in the software interfaces between other packages
[09:10] <kazak1377> hey everybody. I have some problem with qtcreator, downloaded from official site. Whe, i try to compile my project, i getting en those: http://snag.gy/n6ZHZ.jpg what should i install to fix that?
[09:11] <TJ-> jam3sm: That sounds rather like it could be a simple issue of the PC's BIOS boot-order setting needing tweaking
[09:11] <KI7MT> BigBangTheoryX, Its from: man apt-get .. there's allot more info in there too.
[09:11] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: So If "apt-get dist-upgrade" breaks the interaction between different software-components, then why should this command be used?
[09:11] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: For example, when a new kernel version is released
[09:12] <jam3sm> TJ- it boots to the grub fine but as soon as i tell it to go to ubuntu it sits on the black screen with cursor up top corner as if it cant find the os
[09:12] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Yeah. What happens if a new kernel version is released?
[09:12] <TJ-> BigBangTheoryX: Or say, if an application changes the library version it depends upon, the application might be "held back" by 'apt' until a dist-upgrade installs the newly required library
[09:13] <eject_ck> I have .deb package depends on linux-headers package (which is missing in my distro and called linux-headers-3.4-amd64 : uname -a Linux debian 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.8-1 (2014-01-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux). I've installed it with dpkg -i --ignore-depends=linux-headers /home/src/desktopvideo-9.8-amd64.deb  and it works well, but when I use aptitude or apt-get it always require to remove it because of unsatisfied dependencies. How can I tell apt to keep
[09:14] <ikonia> eject_ck: wht distro is it ?
[09:14] <jam3sm> hmm might need to try something else then maybe install 12.04.3 then update restart then change drivers to proprietry nvidia ones
[09:14] <jam3sm> be back in a few hours i hope
[09:14] <BigBangTheoryX> TJ-: Ok now I get it.
[09:14] <eject_ck> Debian 7
[09:14] <TJ-> jam3sm: OK ... that sounds like the issue I mentioned... Try this: when in the grub menu highlight the Ubuntu entry and press 'e' to edit it... move the cursor down to the line begining "linux ..." and then move the cursor to the end of that line where you see "quiet splash" ... ". remove those two options and add in "debug nomodeset". Then press F10 (or Ctr+X) to start Ubuntu with those kernel command-line options.
[09:14] <eject_ck> sid :)
[09:14] <eject_ck> ikonia: sid
[09:15] <ikonia> eject_ck: ok, so #debian is the channel you need
[09:15] <TJ-> jam3sm: The "debug" will cause lots of useful kernel start-up messages to be shown, and the "nomodeset" should ensure that an illegal video mode set isn't done... and you should eventually get the log-in screen, or some clues as to why it is getting 'stuck'
[09:15] <eject_ck> ubuntu uses same pakage manager, so solution should be the same
[09:17] <Myrtti> eject_ck: yes, but Ubuntu is not Debian
[09:23] <Muneeb> #facebook
[09:27] <daniele_> ciao
[09:35] <Turnhhh> Hi all
[09:50] <eject_ck> Myrtti: yes, sure
[09:51] <eject_ck> Myrtti: but if both are using same package manager and my question is related to it, there are no even little difference between both distribs.
[09:51] <eject_ck> however, thank you all
[09:52] <thoonai> hey
[09:52] <yoyo09kh3> can anyone tell me what permissions I need on a folder to allow php access to files but not browsers?  I'm runnung ubuntu 12.04 + php + apache....
[09:53] <thoonai> im having trouble with thunderbird: the systems locals are en_US (which ist correct) and the Thunderbird settings should be de_DE or at least not am/pm but 24h
[09:54] <thoonai> so I need to change the settings for thunderbird only and not changing the whole system settings
[09:54] <Luyin> thoonai: have you tried installing the german language pack for thunderbird?
[09:55] <OerHeks> eject_ck, your issue is unsatisfied dependencies due a missing header package, not ubuntu related as "our" kernel has a different name/annotation
[09:55] <miki> ciao a tutti
[09:56] <thoonai> Luyin: thanks, thats an idea
[09:58] <thoonai> Luyin: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/language-tools/ as I am not too stupid, but Mozilla doesnt offer a language pack :/
[09:58] <thoonai> pr am I totally wrong o.O
[09:58] <Luyin> thoonai: which thunderbird version are you using?
[10:00] <thoonai> Luyin: 24.2.0
[10:01] <Luyin> thoonai: I got the same version with the german language pack, so there should one be in existance ;) gotta go now, try to look for it with google. another idea doesn't occur to me atm, but gonna think about it and tell you when I'm back
[10:01] <thoonai> Luyin: great, thanks
[10:01] <mips> How do I install gnome desktop on ubuntu 14.04, apparently gnome is in the repos
[10:02] <mips> hi
[10:02] <TJ-> thoonai: do you have installed the package "firefox-locale-de" ?
[10:04] <thoonai> TJ-: no. Its about Thunderbird. I need to change the settings for this only program to be changed
[10:04] <thom_r> Unable to open MTP device. I am sick of getting that error. How do I fix it?
[10:04] <glitsj16> thoonai: you should have it in your regular ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get install thunderbird-locale-de  .. did you try that yet?
[10:05] <thoonai> glitsj16: I'll give it a try
[10:05] <TJ-> thoonai: Then "thunderbird-locale-de" ?
[10:07] <thoonai> TJ-: done, now Im searching for the settings
[10:10] <TJ-> thoonai: Hang on, if it's running in the system locale en_US then that is expected; You'd need to change the locale for the application before it is launched to get European formats
[10:11] <TJ-> thoonai: I've confirmed that here. I'm in the UK but starting it with "LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" thunderbird" shows US AM/PM times
[10:12] <TJ-> thoonai: So you need to ensure your system has the "de_DE.UTF-8" language pack built, and then change the environment for the thunderbird launcher
[10:16] <thoonai> TJ-: how do I change the env var for thunderbird only?
[10:17] <TJ-> thoonai: You'd need to have a wrapper script that launches it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: when you last detatched the device from a USB port, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before you physically unplug it?
[10:18] <thom_r> ActionParsnip, it was plugged in the whole time.
[10:18] <thom_r> I didn't unplug it
[10:19] <TJ-> thoonai: "file $(which thunderbird)" reveals that 'thunderbird' is already a symlink to a shell script, so you might be able to do something in that file. I don't see signs that it has the functionality currently
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: so you have _never_ unplugged it from a PC?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> thom_r: as in ever
[10:20] <thom_r> it's my roommates, not mine
[10:20] <thom_r> I have no idea what he's done with it
[10:22] <thoonai> TJ-: ok it works quite nice (if I ignore the Gtk-Warning). Do you have an idea, how I get it integrated in the system?
[10:25] <TJ-> thoonai: You could add "export LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"  to "~/.profile", which would affect all sh/dash/bash shell scripts, I think
[10:27] <thoonai> TJ-: oops. i changed all LANG to de_DE.UTF8
[10:29] <thoonai> TJ-: I'd prefer a redirect in bash.rc so that if you call 'thunderbird' in your terminal, you don't call Thunderbird, but the changed script
[10:32] <thoonai> TJ-: export LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF8" doesn't accect thunderbird
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> steve wozniak said he program better after a few beers
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> what doyou guys think
[10:32] <Myrtti> EagleWizard420: that's not really a Ubuntu support issue, now is it?
[10:32] <EagleWizard420> of course not
[10:33] <thoonai> EagleWizard420: thats an topic for "#ubuntu-offtopic" or "#drug_abuse"
[10:33] <EagleWizard420> that's insulting
[10:33] <EagleWizard420> but since I've never been to this channel and don't understand it, I'll take it as advice
[10:33] <TJ-> thoonai: that's because you're giving an incorrect language specification
[10:33] <thoonai> TJ-: how so?
[10:34] <TJ-> thoonai: look at my suggestion and compare it to what you've typed
[10:36] <thoonai> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6807689/
[10:37] <TJ-> thoonai: is the de_DE language pack installed and built?
[10:38] <RaptorJesus> So lets all talk about what we use Ubuntu for. I'll start first: porn.
[10:39] <thoonai> TJ-: the thunderbird is
[10:41] <Myrtti> RaptorJesus: how about no?
[10:41] <thoonai> TJ-: stop. I don't understand this: if I export LANG to de_DE.UTF8 it works, with LC_TIME it doesnt and I didnt installed the language pack (though surely it is on the universitys system)
[10:41] <thoonai> RaptorJesus: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <thoonai> TJ-: so it works with LANG, but I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6807704/
[11:00] <gargsms> I am using 12.04LTS and today I don't know why Ubuntu is asking me for password again and again, but I cannot see the desktop screen.
[11:07] <Balzy> Hello! I get 1.5 GB - 2 GB ram usage from firefox with 25-30 tabs open, is it okay? Is it me that I am too demanding or is it a plugin/whatelse problem?
[11:09] <Guest76542> czesc
[11:10] <nevyn> Balzy: sounds about right.
[11:12] <Balzy> nevyn thanks, any idea to keep such number of tabs open and reducing ram usage? I've already set the option to not load pages until I click on a tab
[11:13] <nevyn> how much ram do you have?
[11:13] <nevyn> Balzy: why do you care?
[11:13] <jam3sm> TJ- : just to let you know what you suggested didnt help it turns out what was breaking my xorg was the nvidia driver ending with 19
[11:14] <jam3sm> i have to re-install the entire system and not update to the recomended nvidia driver
[11:14] <lesshaste> hi... I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scratch/+bug/1270194 but am a little worried there may be no ubuntu maintainer
[11:15] <jam3sm> anyways ive given up on linux for time bieng since my games not supported properly still
[11:16] <Pessimist> jam3sm, you mean game developers don't support linux? Stop being ignorant
[11:17] <Balzy> nevyn I've got 4GB
[11:17] <Pessimist> Balzy, try about:memory... some addons may have memory leaks
[11:17] <Balzy> but it seems to slow down the entire system
[11:17] <mips> how do I edit grub in 14.04 need to change the defualt OS
[11:18] <Balzy> not sure it's firefox the responsible but it usually happen when it uses more than 2GB (running latest kubuntu release)
[11:18] <gargsms> I am using 12.04LTS and today I don't know why Ubuntu is asking me for password again and again, but I cannot see the desktop screen.
[11:18] <jam3sm> Pessimist im not bieng ignorant and i didnt say that i said my games not supported properly , i know i can play it under wine but still not great p[erformance and in games i meant to say the only game i play is eve online they dont have native support yet
[11:18] <Balzy> thx Pessimist
[11:19] <Pessimist> Balzy, try disabling all addons then enable them one by one. Also try googling "<addon name> memory leak", maybe it's a known problem
[11:19] <tebuct> hai..
[11:20] <Balzy> Pessimist can I post here first 5 lines of the tree? Most memory's used by windows-object
[11:20] <nadir92> Hey !
[11:20] <Pessimist> gargsms, what do you mean you cannot see the desktop screen? Also you shouldn't put your password everywhere where it asks you
[11:20] <Balzy> I don't know exactly what it is, I think something related to rendering and showing pages
[11:21] <gargsms> Pessimist, I am only putting my password on the login screen, like ever.
[11:21] <anew> how can allow user will to write files to /var/www
[11:21] <anew> ?
[11:21] <Balzy> Pessimist addons it's just 24 MB, 1% of total, probably no leaks
[11:21] <anew> sudo chown will /var/www
[11:21] <anew>   itried this
[11:21] <anew> didnt work
[11:22] <gargsms> I SSHed into it once today, and now I cannot use GUI. I can log using tty though.
[11:22] <Pessimist> Balzy, yes. Adobe flash is a huge resource hog too. Do you use it? Try installing flashblock but really browsers nowadays eat a lot of ram
[11:23] <nadir92> Hello all!
[11:23] <nadir92> Does dropbox work on your 12.04 ?
[11:23] <Balzy> yep, I have 3/4 youtube video opened, I should start keeping a playlist instead :P
[11:23] <Pessimist> gargsms, what's the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:23] <Balzy> Pessimist :
[11:23] <Balzy> 1,381.33 MB (100.0%) -- explicit
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────598.38 MB (43.32%) ++ window-objects
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────237.96 MB (17.23%) ++ heap-overhead
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────215.15 MB (15.58%) ++ js-non-window
[11:23] <FloodBot1> Balzy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <Balzy> ├────196.56 MB (14.23%) ── heap-unclassified
[11:24] <Pessimist> gargsms, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:24] <Balzy> gh
[11:25] <Pessimist> Balzy, a ton of heavy websites heh. You can also try installing noscript to disable unnecessary javascript
[11:25] <Luyin> thoonai: problem solved?
[11:25] <linu1> hi i have installed windows on virtual box, i have files to copy from my ubuntu pc to windows,but the paste button shows disabled, how can i used that?
[11:26] <Rory> linu1: Have you installed the Virtualbox Guest Additions, and enabled file and folder drag&drop ?
[11:27] <Balzy> Pessimist yep, I'm already using adblock plus, I usally keep tabs open to keep visible stuff I need to read or I find interesting, I should probably use Bookmarks or read them immediately also
[11:27] <gargsms> Pessimist, http://sprunge.us/cOjI
[11:27] <anew> anyone?
[11:27] <anew> change permissions for /var/www user will?
[11:28] <Kartagis> hi
[11:28] <Kartagis> how do I know whether a patch is supposed to be applied with p0 or p1?
[11:29] <linu1> Rory,i installed virtual box using sudo apt-get install virtualbox,but i dont know exactly that whether i enabled or not,how can i check
[11:29] <thoonai> Luyin: partially yes, thanks
[11:29] <Rory> linu1: On your Windows guest machine, go to Devices -> Insert Guest Additions Cd Image
[11:30] <gargsms> anew, $ sudo chown -R <your username> /var/www
[11:30] <Luyin> thoonai: what about the other part?
[11:30] <Luyin> thoonai: what else do you need?
[11:30] <BigBangTheoryX> Hi guys. I've installed Gnome 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.10, but I can't create folders etc. on the desktop. How can I do that?
[11:31] <thoonai> Luyin: may I ask you that later? 15 minutes or so?
[11:31] <Rory> BigBangTheoryX: run this command: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
[11:31] <Rory> BigBangTheoryX: You may also have to log out and in after that
[11:32] <Luyin> thoonai: ask me in a query, I will be gone again soon. perhaps I can help you later
[11:32] <gargsms> anew, $ sudo chown -R <your username> /var/www
[11:32] <anew> thanks i forgot the -R gargsms
[11:32] <thoonai> Luyin: cool thanks
[11:34] <Daghdha> how much effort/skill/time you think is required for a semi-noob to set up ubuntu as an email server? (I don't haveubuntu server, i have ubuntu desktop)
[11:34] <BigBangTheoryX> Another problem is: I had installed "gnome-session-fallback". After that I get the error message That an error occured with ExecutablePath "/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon. How can I fix that?
[11:38] <Daghdha> I see a nice https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer page, sadly it is from 2009 and my experience is that Ubuntu changes a lot so it may no longer be correct info
[11:40] <Pessimist> gargsms, how much free space you have? df -h | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[11:43] <gargsms> Pessimist, 76Gig
[11:44] <Ornitorrinco> why /etc/crontab don't runs in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[11:45] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: What makes you think it doesn't?
[11:45] <Ornitorrinco> because I added lines in /etc/crontab but my ubuntu is ignoring it
[11:46] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: More likely you have an error in one of those lines, like a typo, so it's failing instead of giving the result you expect
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> i added: * *  * * *  user /usr/bin/gedit
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> it would run a gedit every minut
[11:47] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Right, that won't work
[11:47] <Ornitorrinco> why not, its all okey
[11:48] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Multiple users may be logged in on an Ubuntu system at the same time, and even a single user may be logged in graphically multiple times. gedit doesn't know what X server to run in
[11:49] <Kartagis> how do I know whether a patch is supposed to be applied with p0 or p1?
[11:49] <Ornitorrinco> and what i need to add on my line? do u know?
[11:49] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: It'll work when you run it from a gnome-terminal, because in your gnome-terminal you have an DISPLAY environment variable that tells the commands you run what X server your using
[11:49] <CatKiller> Kartagis: p0 or p1...2.3 etc simply define how many levels of subdirectories (slashes) to remove in the path before applying
[11:50] <CatKiller> Try p0 and if it doesn't work try another one
[11:50] <Ornitorrinco> but if i run '/usr/bin/gedit' in a terminal it execute a grafic gparted
[11:50] <CatKiller> it's just easier
[11:50] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: If there's only one user logged in graphically, then the value for DISPLAY is likely ":0", so * * * * * user DISPLAY=:0 gedit   may work, but it's not a good idea
[11:51] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: because gnome-terminal has a DISPLAY variable, while cron does not.
[11:51] <Kartagis> CatKiller: 0 and 1 didn't work. it asked me "File to patch: "
[11:51] <CatKiller> inspect the patch file using a text editor and figure out if it looks right
[11:51] <Ornitorrinco> then what i would to do to execute gedit every minut?
[11:52] <Ornitorrinco> with a correct way
[11:52] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: A better approach would be to create a startup application that does whatever you want
[11:52] <CatKiller> Kartagis: You can look at resources on the web that explain patching better: https://drupal.org/patch/apply
[11:54] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: e.g. a script doing   while sleep 60; do gedit & done   would spawn a new gedit every minute
[11:55] <Ornitorrinco> okey thats a good idea
[11:58] <anew> root@plato:~# chown -R will:will .ssh
[11:58] <anew> chown: cannot access â.sshâ: No such file or directory
[11:58] <anew> i get this error
[11:58] <anew> but i'm looking right at .sssh
[11:58] <anew> .ssh
[11:58] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Fool1sh> Hi! I'm trying to periodically run an UI test on a VM having Ubuntu Server 12.04 + Gnome installed. I've created a cronjob using the crontab tool so it executes the command to run that UI test every minute. Problem: I get no feedback that the cronjob has been executed. Once the UI test is executed it should log different messages into a file, but that file remains empty. Any idea please?
[11:59] <ikonia> character screw up
[11:59] <geirha> anew: what terminal emulator are you using? putty?
[11:59] <anew> yes
[12:00] <ikonia> Fool1sh: depends how you've set the cronjob up - what the script actually does
[12:00] <geirha> anew: Make sure it's set to use utf-8 character encoding
[12:00] <geirha> anew: Window -> Translation -> UTF-8 iirc
[12:01] <Fool1sh> ikonia, as root I used crontab -e and appended that line to the file: /root/runIDE -r /root/test.sikuli
[12:01] <ikonia> Fool1sh: you shouldn't be root, root is looked on ubuntu
[12:01] <anew> thx
[12:01] <ikonia> "locked" sorry
[12:01] <Fool1sh> alright, I'm trying with another user then
[12:04] <Fool1sh> ikonia, ok I've tried running the script as another user and it complains: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':1.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[12:04] <Ornitorrinco> geirha: with the DISPLAY=:0 way is running well
[12:05] <BigBangTheoryX> How can I add shortcuts to Ubuntu's top-bar?
[12:05] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Note that that is not a solution, it's a hack that will work "most of the time"
[12:06] <Ornitorrinco> then don't exist a true good form to do this with a crom utility right?
[12:06] <Fool1sh> ikonia, I'm connected with a VNC client as root, maybe that's the problem
[12:06] <Ornitorrinco> geirha*
[12:07] <jam3sm> hmm i wonder if its because of the i8xx-i9xx intel drivers for xorg causing the problem with the nvidia drivers causing xorg to fail to load -causing me to re-install all the time
[12:07] <Ornitorrinco> geirha: don't exist a good method to run X applications with the crontab really?
[12:08] <geirha> Ornitorrinco: Correct. Cron is not designed to interact with X. Better to use the utilities X and your desktop environment provides
[12:08] <Ornitorrinco> Okey thank you very much geirha you are the best
[12:09] <Fool1sh> geirha, what kind of utilities for Gnome for example?
[12:10] <geirha> Fool1sh: Well, there is the Startup Applications, which is a front-end for XDG autostart
[12:12] <geirha> There's also a gnome scheduled task thingy, which actually uses crontab with a python wrapper that tries to figure out what X server it should run on and sets the environment appropriately. I still consider that a hack though.
[12:13] <BigBangTheoryX> Has anybody an idea?
[12:15] <trijntje> BigBangTheoryX: you can
[12:15] <trijntje> BigBangTheoryX: you can't, sorry
[12:15] <Fool1sh> geirha, interesting that might what I'm looking for as I'm trying to run Sikuli (a graphical tool requiring a graphical env) from the command line on the X server... I thought about writing a wrapper so it would find the X server on which to run but I was missing clues :)
[12:15] <BigBangTheoryX> trijntje: Why?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | BigBangTheoryX
[12:18] <ikonia> Fool1sh: sounds like your X11 and root sessions are a problem
[12:21] <geirha> Fool1sh: Whatever you need to run automatically in X, just do it via autostart
[12:22] <Fool1sh> Yes, I'm going to investigate further. Brb
[12:24] <pirulinux> buen dia disculpen que joda tan temprano pero boy ha nesecitar algo de ayuda veran en estos momentos estoy utilisando una red wifi la cual
[12:24] <pirulinux> va ha ser eliminada de manera definitiva el dia de mañana
[12:24] <BigBangTheoryX> I've installed "classicmenu-indicator" but I cant create icons on the top-bar
[12:24] <pirulinux> dispongo de una cableada pero tiene un bloqueo por proxy
[12:24] <pirulinux>  y el pidgin no funciona desde hay
[12:24] <pirulinux> existe alguna manera de evadir el bloqueo
[12:25] <pirulinux> con un proxy local o algo
[12:25] <pirulinux>  me urge de lo contrario pirulinux podria desapareser para siempre
[12:25] <pirulinux> help
[12:25] <DJones> !es | pirulinux
[12:28] <pirulinux> si si Djones estoy desesperado es todo estoy seguro que algunos por aqui entienden el español
[12:28] <DJones> pirulinux: For support in Spanish, please join #ubuntu-es This channel is English language only
[12:32] <Ronie> hello
[12:36] <terranb0y> hay
[12:36] <terranb0y> i had a wuestion
[12:36] <terranb0y> question*
[12:36] <terranb0y> is smoebody here
[12:36] <terranb0y> by by
[12:38] <xocat> hi
[12:38] <Fool1sh> geirha, not sure if you have time to help but I've just logged off the VNC session I was previously in (as root) and restarted the vnc server under a non-root user. But when I connected to it using my usual VNC client, there is not the full Gnome interface anymore, only a gnome-terminal opened up. How come?
[12:38] <jam3sm>  do i need to install the i8xx/i9xx intel display drivers update?
[12:39] <somsip> !ask | terranb0y
[12:45] <lazyfingers> ubuntu 13.10 lost the ability to remap keys? i want to map caps to ctrl, is it possible now or what?
[12:46] <jam3sm> how to install from terminal something sudo apt- somthing or rather?
[12:46] <BlueShark> jam3sm, What are you trying to install?
[12:46] <Cigrits> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[12:47] <geirha> Fool1sh: I don't know. Sounds like you didn't tell the vnc server what desktop environment you wanted..?
[12:47] <Cigrits> to find packages     apt-cache search <search term>
[12:48] <geirha> Fool1sh: I only have experience with the builtin vnc server, not any of the stand alone, so I can't help on that part.
[12:52] <Fuzzz3r> Why i have "cannot send to channel: #ubuntu" message?
[12:52] <Fuzzz3r> Oh.. sry, now ok
[12:52] <Walex> Fuzzz3r: some channels are for registered nicknames only, but not necessarily this one
[12:53] <Walex> lazyfingers: probably can still remap using X11-level utilities related to XKB
[12:53] <lazyfingers> Walex, can't
[12:53] <lazyfingers> Walex, it resets back after a few seconds
[12:54] <Walex> lazyfingers: that means that there is some Unity/GNOME keyboard config applet that resets it.
[12:55] <Fuzzz3r> What i need use for up gate server on ubuntu?
[12:55] <Walex> lazyfingers: I actually use KDE, so I don't know which one Unity/GNOME3 would use.
[12:55] <lazyfingers> Walex, this is obvious.. but what the flying asd does it work this way now?!
[12:55] <Walex> lazyfingers: Desktop Environment developers like to change stuff :-)
[12:56] <lazyfingers> Walex, I it works as usual in kde but I don't like kde ;)
[12:56] <Walex> Fuzzz3r: what does that mean?
[12:56] <lazyfingers> Walex, yeah, i guess... "great decisions" for the greater? good?
[12:56] <Walex> lazyfingers: you don't like KDE? Heretic! :-)
[12:56] <Rar9> hi need some quick info for my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  Server... It´s not autostarting Tomcat7 anymore... and in need to start it manually.....is anyone able to help?
[12:57] <Walex> lazyfingers: in part; in part it is simply that developers like to say "I did this". They can't say "it is fine, leave it is like that" :-)
[12:57] <lazyfingers> Walex, I like things more minimalistic. I find KDE look like a circus with bears on bicycles and the orchestra
[12:57] <Walex> Rar9: and how do you start it manually? And did you have a look at system and Tomcat logs?
[12:58] <Walex> lazyfingers: that's just the default KDE config, you can change it anyway you want. But if you like simple look also at XFCE for example.
[12:58] <lazyfingers> Walex, xfce is too simple.. not that minimalistic :)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> lazyfingers: or openbox as a standalone WM :)
[12:58] <Walex> or TWM!
[12:59] <Rar9> Walex  I use /etc/init.d/tomcat7 restart
[12:59] <mantas> Hello, I am looking for open source DMS (document management system) with web interface, maybe you can recommend?
[12:59] <Rar9> all I did is upgrade JAVe from 1.6 to 1.7... could this be the problem?
[12:59] <Walex> Rar9: ah yes definitely.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Walex: blast from the past, nice
[12:59] <lazyfingers> Walex, ActionParsnip: too much hassle just to be able to use emacs keybindings
[12:59] <Walex> Rar9: check the "alternatives" for Java.
[12:59] <Rar9> and where and how do I need to change that?
[13:00] <Rar9> sorry I´m a windows user....but I slowly getting better :-(
[13:00] <Walex> Rar9: check the startup script for Tomcat, and how it invokes Java. Hopefully it uses one of the generic names
[13:00] <jam3sm> hmm if i install wine from the software centre will it be the 32 bit or 64bit version? if its 32bit will it also install all the needed i386 files ?
[13:00] <lazyfingers> latest ubuntu is forcing me to change my habits of using emacs keybindings and spend time learning vim's keybindings.. unnecessarily
[13:01] <lazyfingers> Walex, ActionParsnip: latest ubuntu is forcing me to change my habits of using emacs keybindings and spend time learning vim's keybindings.. unnecessarily
[13:01] <Rar9> you men this java version "1.7.0_51"
[13:02] <Walex> Rar9: things with Java are a bit complicated because of the need to support multiple versions.
[13:02] <Rar9> or /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java
[13:02] <Fool1sh> geirha, I just ran `vncserver :1` as my non-root user. It's weird that when I run the same thing as root and connect with the VNC client I get the full interface.
[13:02] <Rar9> but tomcat 7 is running fine
[13:03] <Rar9> it just doesn´t autostart when rebooting
[13:03] <Walex> Rar9: there is a directory '/usr/lib/jvm' where Java implementations are installed, plus the "alternatives" system.
[13:03] <Walex> Rar9: have a look at 'sudo update-java-alternatives -l'
[13:04] <Rar9> java-7-oracle 1063 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[13:04] <Slampert> So, how do I ensure that Scroll Lock isn't assigned to any command?
[13:05] <Almpert> So, how do I ensure that Scroll Lock isn't assigned to any command?
[13:05] <geirha> Fool1sh: root probably has some configuration set up, while your non-root user does not
[13:05] <Walex> Rar9: uhm, if it does not start just when rebooting it could be several reasons. Check the system logs in '/var/log/' and in particular '/vr/log'/tomcat6'
[13:05] <Slampert> Whoops, opened window twice...
[13:06] <Walex> Rar9: that Java "alternatives" looks good.
[13:06] <Rar9> good :-) and now?
[13:07] <Rar9> etc/init.d/tomcat7 ??
[13:07] <Walex> Rar9: I just had a look at the startup script and now check that 'JAVA_HOME' etc. have the right value in '/etc/default/tomcat6'
[13:08] <Walex> Rar9: note that 12.04 LTS has 'tomcat6' by default IIRC. But if you installed 'tomcat7' check '/etc/default/tomcat7'.
[13:09] <Fool1sh> geirha, yes you are right, something was missing in ~/.vnc/xstartup thank you :)
[13:11] <Rar9> Walex i curretnl have JAVA_HOME=/usr
[13:11] <Rar9> do i need to change it to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle
[13:12] <Slampert> almpert
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: isn't `which java`   just a symlink?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !away > Thor|Away
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: what is the output of:  file `which java`
[13:14] <Rar9> sorry don´t understand
[13:14] <MrQuist> "That java"
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: run the command in termnal, what does it say?
[13:14] <MrQuist> Rar9, execute this in your terminal
[13:14] <MrQuist> 'which java'
[13:14] <Rar9> java- version ?
[13:14] <MrQuist> it should show the location of the "java" application
[13:14] <MrQuist> no, "which java"
[13:14] <Guest24711> ciao
[13:14] <MrQuist> "which"  is a command
[13:14] <Rar9> it tells me /usr/bin/java
[13:14] <MrQuist> ah great
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: you missed the 'file' command
[13:15] <MrQuist> ActionParsnip, your turn :)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: what is the output of:  file `which java`
[13:15] <Rar9> it tells me /usr/bin/java
[13:15] <MrQuist> oh lol
[13:15] <MrQuist> ahah
[13:15] <MrQuist> no, Rar9, ActionParsnip wants you to run this command: "file `which java`"
[13:16] <MrQuist> the "`" quote is a nested command
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: no, you are not adding the word 'file'. the word 'file' is part of the command
[13:16] <MrQuist> so this basically said "file /usr/bin/java"
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: thanks
[13:16] <MrQuist> "file" is a command, just like "which"
[13:17] <MrQuist> NP, i love playing cpt. obvious
[13:17] <MrQuist> ;)
[13:17] <Rar9> guys please help me... so tomcat7 autostarts again.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: can you run it manually?
[13:17] <Rar9> yes It starts
[13:18] <Rar9> but as said I´ve upgraded java from 1.6 to 1.7
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: then add the command in /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root each boot
[13:19] <Rar9> so If i look at /etc/default/tomcat7 has ablanked out #JAVA_HOME=/usr
[13:20] <Rar9> ActionParsnip where do I do that?
[13:20] <gisli> I just installed ruby1.9.3 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I can't seem to add it to the alternatives via update-alternatives
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: or for a server:  sudo nano /etc/rc.local    (or whatever editor you like)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> *cough*vi*cough*
[13:21] <Minnen> hello
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: sudo editor /etc/rc.local                             then :P
[13:22] <Rar9> ActionParsnip all I have here is nohup /home/plesk/pleskinst.sh &
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: add on a new line, above the 'exit 0' line, the command you run to start the service
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: with an amperand like the line you just pasted, to not hang the boot
[13:24] <Minnen> i have noticed even if i use commands like "purge" and "remove" every time i delete a package it leaves behind many folders, that are no longer needed, do anyone know a good way to get rid of those folders as well as the package? (i.e. uninstalled thunderbird and its folder can still be found in the /etc/ dir)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: does:  dpkg -l | grep ^rc     output anything?
[13:25] <Rar9> ActionParsnip ok..... but my question is why it used to start with java 1.6 and not with java 1.6...  so your way is as if i start it manually
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: yes, its a hack but should work
[13:25] <Minnen> im not familiar with that command ActionParsnip, lemme read a bit about it and i will report back the results
[13:25] <Rar9> the bug should be under /etc/init.d/tomcat7
[13:25] <Rar9> or?
[13:25] <Minnen> thanks for the quick response
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: its a simple command to copy and paste to terminal, does it output anything?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: what is to read?
[13:26] <Minnen> i was going to google the command to know more about it, im not currently at my ubuntu setup im at my office
[13:26] <Rar9> perhaps this line: JDK_DIRS="/usr/lib/jvm/default-java ${OPENJDKS} /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun"
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Rar9: whatver you run to make it work, add it there. You could even make a script then add the script name to rc.local for neatness, same deal though.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: dpkg -l   lists allinstalled packages, the grep shows lines that start (the ^ denotes starts with) 'rc' so only those lines are output
[13:29] <Minnen> and rc stands for?
[13:29] <Minnen> configuration files?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Minnen: removed but old configs left (the ones outside $HOME)
[13:29] <Minnen> ahh
[13:30] <Xuisce1> hi all
[13:30] <kenneth__> hello
[13:31] <Xuisce1> hi kenneth__
[13:42] <Walex> Rar9: '/usr/lib/jvm/default-java' should be set by the "alternatives" system to the right value, check that.
[13:43] <Rar9> thank you to I´ve just altered the Last posted lin t point o the right directoy..
[13:43] <Rar9> its booting again.
[13:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:01] <kingfisher64> where do I report third party bugs to popular Ubuntu programs? I've got a strange one with docky when the recycle bin is pinned to the dock and trash emptied - it crashes the program every time
[14:06] <Guest97811> @find A Compendium of Neuropsychological Tests
[14:06] <Pici> Guest97811: This isn't that kind of channel.
[14:09] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, isn't docky dead?
[14:10] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, if not, https://launchpad.net/docky
[14:10] <kingfisher64> i don't know phunyguy? I just want that launcher on the bottom
[14:11] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, also, channel #docky on freenode apparently exists.
[14:11] <kingfisher64> thanks phunguy, didn't know either of those things as this is my first week with Ubuntu
[14:11] <phunyguy> kingfisher64, you can look into plank which is slated to replace it, but it is very young still.
[14:11] <phunyguy> errr new to ubuntu, forget it then
[14:11] <phunyguy> (no GUI config)
[14:12] <phunyguy> and welcome to Ubuntu :)
[14:12] <kingfisher64> thanks, wanted to rid myself of windoze for years but finally made the permanent move.
[14:15] <jackneill> is there a structorizer like program for linux (http://structorizer.fisch.lu/)? this doesnt work, i got java error, or runtime error...etc..
[14:15] <jackneill> and the online version doesnt work either.
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> For installing Ubuntu and Windows in dual-boot on a ssd and using a caddy as well, you guys think partitioning 80 gigs (windows) 40 gigs(Ubuntu) on the ssd and having the full magnetic hard-drive as on partition on ntfs be ok?
[14:19] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Sounds fine
[14:24] <Xuisce1> hi all
[14:28] <kingfisher64> thanks phunyguy i've reported it at launchpad however it already existed as a problem. Docky keeps continually crashing for me so I think i'm going to uninstall.
[14:28] <kingfisher64> is there a way to get the unity launcher on the bottom in 13.10?
[14:29] <kingfisher64> done the googling on this and aparantly a fix was only available in v 10x of ubuntu
[14:30] <rob321> hey, i recently did a clean install on my computer with ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and I can't get any of my printers working now.....   The updates this morning installed the newest HPLIP but that didn't help at all. Google shows that this seems a common problem, but I can't find a SOLUTION from anything I read, just other people with the same problem....   Any printer experts here?
[14:32] <rob321> I've tried 3 printers too, and other things work on the usb ports, just not printers....   the printers say "printing test page" or whatever job I send, then they say "printing completed" but nothing happens
[14:32] <tachyons> king1337-2, No
[14:32] <tachyons> kingfisher64, No, you can't
[14:33] <MrQuist> rob321, bash the printer
[14:33] <MrQuist> just smash it with other peripheral devices
[14:34] <rob321> I'll run to Home Depot for a sledge right now.....
[14:35] <kingfisher64> not sure why it can't be committed to unity tweak under launcher tab tachyons - let people choose
[14:35] <SonikkuAmerica> A... sledge? Sounds a bit !ot to me...
[14:35] <Xuisce1> ho rob321
[14:35] <rob321> hey, if I have to bash and smash, do it right...
[14:36] <tachyons> kingfisher64, It is a design decision by Mark shuttle worth
[14:36] <kingfisher64> that's one person and that's solid reasoning if only Mark Shuttleworth is using Unity tachyons
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> kingfisher64: Also, feel free to code something yourself - Unity is free and open-source
[14:36] <rob321> I tried this "debugging page" but everything seems to check out....   I'm at a total loss here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[14:37] <kingfisher64> I'm not a developer SonikkuAmerica.
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> What an excuse.
[14:37] <kingfisher64> lol
[14:38] <tachyons> kingfisher64, why? in unity the launcher is supposed to display in left side, if you hate it use gnome-shell
[14:38] <tachyons> or any other de
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Not-a-developer me spent a good 5 minutes on the command line and in /etc/fstab setting up a Windows partition as a mount point.
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, Not a Coder®.
[14:39] <kingfisher64> i'll try cairo dock. Docky keeps crashing.
[14:40] <kingfisher64> what is gnome-shell tachyons? Only had ubuntu installed since Tuesday
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !GNOME
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Well that's descriptive, and I wrote that factoid myself...
[14:40] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ or try xfce4 DE
[14:40]  * SonikkuAmerica uses XFCE himself.
[14:41]  * philinux got use to unity
[14:42] <kingfisher64> so will I only lose the unity launcher and nothing else? I love the way information is presented when the top icon is clicked just want the launcher at the bottom - fits more icons on
[14:42] <LucidGuy> Does Ubuntu no longer support/work with the etc/networking/interfaces file?  I prefer it over using network-manager
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Rory, thank you for your input, I will do it just like that
[14:42] <rob321> ok, maybe someone has a good idea of another place to go for help?
[14:42] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ i like it on the left as on a widescreen monitor or laptop i get more vertical space
[14:43] <Peace-> hello i tried to get info about my RAM but when i do sudo lshw or sudo dmidecode | grep -A 15 Memory i can't get FREQUENCY info
[14:43] <kingfisher64> i'm right handed philinux so it feels more natural to be closing windows, clicking menus on the right or bottom
[14:44] <kingfisher64> it would be perfect it I was left handed
[14:44] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ I think the close buttons can be moved
[14:44] <kingfisher64> yeah in unity tweak i've moved them to the right philinux
[14:45] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ but position of launcher is hard coded
[14:45] <Raymondo> hey. I just upgraded my vps release from 10.04 to 12.04 and when I restart it has read-only file system
[14:45] <kingfisher64> hard coded launcher position is the equivalent of using a fixed position design in webdesign as opposed to a responsive design - not a good idea.
[14:45] <Peace-> Raymondo: guess you need to edit fstab
[14:45] <Raymondo> Peace-: oh?
[14:46] <Peace-> !fstab
[14:46] <Raymondo> I'm in finnix now
[14:46] <philinux> kingfisher64;~ that subject has been done to death years ago
[14:46] <Xuisce1> ~wine
[14:46] <Xuisce1> !wine
[14:46] <Xuisce1> hm
[14:47] <Peace-> Raymondo: i read bad sorry i dunno about vps
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[14:48] <rob321> OK, well, thanks guys
[14:48] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: can't select text in this console. am I looking for something in particular?
[14:49] <TJ-> Raymondo: Is it Linode?
[14:49] <Raymondo> TJ-: no
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: have you ssh'd in?
[14:49] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: ssh doesn't run
[14:49] <Raymondo> this is finnix web console
[14:50] <TJ-> Raymondo: Is it dropping to a shell prompt in the initrd?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: you're looking for hd errors especially IO Errors
[14:52] <Raymondo> TJ-: I don't have much visibility at all. by the time the console is available, all I can see is mknod errors in /proc
[14:52] <Raymondo> which just means the file system is read-only
[14:52] <rob321> any thoughts ona good place to figure out whats wrong with my printers anyone?
[14:52] <TJ-> Raymondo: You've already done fsck ?
[14:52] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: nothing jumps out at me from running dmesg in finnix
[14:52] <Raymondo> TJ-: no
[14:53] <TJ-> Raymondo: That'd be #1
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: what exactly happens when you boot up if ssh server isn'd loaded
[14:53] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: like I said. I eventually get to see mknod errors in the web console
[14:54] <Raymondo> but it's not interactive
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: do you have access curl from the shell you are on?
[14:54] <LoZioNe> ragazzi ho una domanda,sono con BT4 r2 come unico s.o. installato sul pc,stò scaricando la .iso di Kali 1.0.6 amd64... com'è meglio fare per masterizzare la .iso su una usb da 8 Gb?
[14:54] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: yeah
[14:55] <Raymondo> you want me to pipe dmesg to pastebin post via curl? :P
[14:56] <Raymondo> TJ-: what exactly?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: lets start with: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: can you also do a: fdisk -l | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[14:57] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: couldn't resolve host
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: please try: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://216.239.38.21
[14:58] <TJ-> Raymondo: there's little value in checking the current Finnix dmesg until you've fsck-ed the file-systems ... if that doesn't show any problems, you should be looking at /var/log/* for the most recent changes at/after the upgrade, for indications of errors.
[14:58] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: 'network is unreachable'
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: ok.you've no net access.
[14:59] <Raymondo> TJ-: yeah I'm not really sure how to find the filesystems I need to check
[14:59] <gtrepas> hello
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: start with: fdisk -l              to find the devices.
[15:00] <TJ-> Raymondo: who is the VPS provider? Is it Xen, KVM, OpenVZ, or what?
[15:01] <Raymondo> 3 disks. for each it says 'doesn't contain a valid partition table'
[15:01] <Raymondo> TJ-: xen
[15:01] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Raymondo that is because they are file-system images ... do "blkid ..." on each
[15:02] <TJ-> Raymondo: So you've got nodes like "/dev/xvda" ?
[15:02] <Raymondo> TJ-: yeah. found the ext3 one
[15:02] <Raymondo> other two are swap and finnix cd
[15:02] <TJ-> Raymondo: OK, so now you can "fsck /dev/xvd?"
[15:03] <Raymondo> '/dev/xvda2: clean, x/y files, a/b blocks' (big numbers)
[15:04] <TJ-> Raymondo: Good sign :) Now you can mount it to check the logs: "mkdir /mnt/target && mount /dev/xvda2 /mnt/target"
[15:04] <kingfisher64> so can I install gnome can I choose on login which interface to use tachyons. I've been looking at kde, unity and gnome reviews
[15:05] <TJ-> Raymondo: then start by listing the logs most-recent last "ls -latr /mnt/target/var/log/"
[15:05] <tachyons> kingfisher64, yes
[15:05] <TJ-> Raymondo: then you can review the most recent logs looking for issues... use "less <log-file>" if it is in that finnix image"
[15:07] <kingfisher64> and once the interface is installed it effects the whole os? I really like some aspects of default 13.10 with unity
[15:07] <kingfisher64> just not the launcher
[15:08] <gtrepas> guys i was thinking of switching to opensuse kde but i have no idea what to expect from that. any ideas?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> gtrepas: might be a better question for ##linux
[15:09] <Raymondo> TJ-, hitsujiTMO: kern.log - cannot read proc file system: 1 - operation not permitted. (last message repeated about a gazillion times)
[15:09] <gtrepas> oh ok sorry about that
[15:10] <Raymondo> it was suggested I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but not only does menu.lst not exist, there is no /boot/grub in /mnt/target
[15:10] <tachyons> kingfisher64, you can install it safely
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: what version of ubuntu is it?
[15:10] <DJones> gtrepas: I think opensuse have quite a few channels on freenode, maybe look for #suse or #opensuse
[15:10] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I ran do-release-upgrade on 10.04 to get 12.04
[15:10] <kingfisher64> watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMI-cuN6C2M tachyons
[15:11] <kingfisher64> i've heard nice things about KDE as well
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: I'm wondering if its related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/523610
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> altho the bug doesn't seem to suggest a non boot
[15:13] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: would you suggest updating to a newer kernel before running the release upgrade?
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: are you on a XenPV server?
[15:13] <Raymondo> I dunno
[15:14] <ikonia> your machine should be up to date with all ubuntu packages (no external repo packages) before the upgrade
[15:14] <ikonia> so the kernel should be the latest provided by the stable ubuntu core repo for your version
[15:14] <Raymondo> ikonia: I have a choice of kernerls
[15:14] <Raymondo> -r
[15:14] <ikonia> Raymondo: how do you have a choice ?
[15:14] <Raymondo> web admin panel
[15:15] <ikonia> Raymondo: then you shouldn't upgrade anything
[15:15] <Raymondo> ?
[15:15] <ikonia> as the chances are it's a basterdised ubuntu build - which the upgrade process will fail on
[15:15] <ikonia> it will be some sort of container (probably)
[15:15] <Pici> Raymondo: Who is your VPS provider?
[15:16] <kingfisher64> when you say safely that obviously implies there's an unsafe way to install gnome tachyons. Have I understood you right?
[15:16] <Raymondo> Pici: you wouldn't have heard of it
[15:16] <Raymondo> ikonia: the bug thread says this issue happens on older kernels, which is what I'm running
[15:17] <Raymondo> I have the option to run a newer stable kernel
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: Since you have no /boot/grub I'd assume its a PV vps.
[15:17] <ikonia> Raymondo: I'd ignore that thread and not do anything until you know your situation
[15:17] <tachyons> kingfisher64, I mean gnome in your ubuntu repo is safe it will not affect your unity .
[15:17] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: the suggestion about /boot/grub was from the vps support :/
[15:18] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[15:18] <Raymondo> ikonia: what else do I need to know about my situation?
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: they may be giving out both pv and hvm in which that answer applies to hvm
[15:19] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: I see
[15:19] <Raymondo> that would imply they didn't even look at my account before answering
[15:19] <ikonia> Raymondo: I would talk to your hosting provided and ask them for support on this, the basteridsed builds that are normally in place on these types of situations will fail during upgrade
[15:19] <kingfisher64> have you tried kde tachyons?
[15:20] <kingfisher64> probably will try both starting with gnome
[15:20] <tachyons> kingfisher64, yes
[15:20] <Raymondo> ikonia: the first line of the response: 'In-line upgrades between major Ubuntu releases is not recommended on the VPS platform, but still possible.'
[15:20] <ikonia> Raymondo: yeah, it's going to fail then
[15:20] <ikonia> Raymondo: I'd put money on it
[15:20] <ikonia> if they are putting that warning on it keep away from it
[15:20] <ikonia> more so with the changes they must be using to use web pannels
[15:21] <Raymondo> this upgrade is going to be a nightmare then
[15:22] <ikonia> I suspect it will just fail being honest,
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: What type of services have you running on the server?
[15:22] <ikonia> unless we know how your system works properly, it's a guess
[15:22] <Raymondo> hitsujiTMO: just lamp really
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: do you have a backup of the data?
[15:22] <Raymondo> yeah
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> Raymondo: may be easiest to reroll an new instance of the 12.04 image then and restore your data
[15:23] <Raymondo> that's what I mean by nightmare :)
[15:24] <Raymondo> anyway, I've made a fair bit of progress in figuring this out
[15:24] <Raymondo> thanks all
[15:24] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[15:26] <standoo> what is the minimum system requirements/recomended system requirements for ubuntu?
[15:26] <ikonia> stated on the website
[15:28] <Pici> !requirements > standoo
[15:33] <Noah_Budy> just installed 13.10. which channels are good for new users?
[15:34] <ding> Anyone using cinnamon with 13.10 ? X keeps locking up on me regardless of whether gdm or lightdm is in use...
[15:35] <v0lksman> hello! I'm trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6808882/
[15:36] <ruth> #minecraft
[15:41] <glitsj16> v0lksman: how did you try to upgrade to 13.10? GUI, terminal command? .. i think your paste suggests you might have tried upgrading to 14.04, hence the error
[15:41] <v0lksman> glitsj16: through the GUI...it said it would upgrade to 13.10
[15:42] <v0lksman> just found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[15:42] <v0lksman> and have looked at the log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6808906/
[15:43] <v0lksman> so does this mean I should remove xserver-xorg-video-all and try again?
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: are you using any ppas?
[15:44] <glitsj16> v0lksman: is that marked as broken?
[15:44] <sh0t> hi guys
[15:44] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: yes...xorg edgers...can't remember why I needed it though
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | v0lksman remove it with this then try the upgrade
[15:45] <adsc> can I install ubuntu in outlook?
[15:45] <sh0t> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a hp envy premium. at boot time after pressing enter to grub i cannot anything
[15:45] <sh0t> does it depend on something related to the video card?
[15:45] <sh0t> how can i solve it?
[15:45] <v0lksman> glitsj16: yeah I think so..there are a bunch of xorg packs that are listed as broken when I run  grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what version of the iso are you using?
[15:46] <glitsj16> v0lksman: follow hitsujiTMO's advice and also take care of the broken packages before upgrading
[15:47] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso this one
[15:48] <Fevix> Hello, I'm a brand new Ubuntu user. My laptop in the corner is running 13.10 Saucy Salamander, and with an update, none of the hardware is being detected. (MOuse, keyboard, network adaptor, external monitor...) The laptop's normal hardware is being detected and used just fine, but nothing else is working. Is there a known fix for this issue?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what exactly happens after grub? blank screen?
[15:49] <sh0t> black screen
[15:49] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ^^
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | give this a sh0t
[15:50] <sh0t> thanks hitsujiTMO i'll give it a try
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: it maybe the case that you might need upgraded drivers to boot however (such as those supplied in 13.10) in which case you may need to wait for the 12.04.4 release
[15:51] <alexandros> hello!
[15:51] <HellTiger> hello
[15:52] <adsc> hey guys, i am mostly outlook user (important management tasks), can I install an Ubuntu in outlook?
[15:52] <HellTiger> what is the state of tablet version for ubuntu? and what happend to the netbook version? i have here a archos9 with win7, i ts slow and i wana install a touchpad ubuntu
[15:52] <DJones> !touch | HellTiger This is probably th best place for info on the tablet/phone version,
[15:53] <HellTiger> adac, ubuntu is a operation system and outlook a email client, you can nost install ubuntu in outlook, please clarify your question
[15:53] <HellTiger> th DJones
[15:53] <alexandros> I am trying out a xubuntu distribution but there's a problem with the wifi card: TP-LINK TL-WN322G. Although it is recognized and it can scan networks, it cannot connect to them.  Any ideas ?
[15:53] <HellTiger> alexandros: did you connected the same device with different os all ready to this network?
[15:54] <alexandros> HellTiger: yes. On a different system running ubuntu
[15:54] <adsc> HellTiger: what do you mean? I constantly operate systems from within outlook, why can't Ubuntu be installed, too?
[15:54] <HellTiger> you may have to set your wlan router to auto select connections, cause its to new/high for your device
[15:54] <alexandros> HellTiger: same wifi device, same network
[15:54] <Fevix> Hello, I'm a brand new Ubuntu user. My laptop in the corner is running 13.10 Saucy Salamander, and with an update, none of the hardware is being detected. (MOuse, keyboard, network adaptor, external monitor...) The laptop's normal hardware is being detected and used just fine, but nothing else is working. Is there a known fix for this issue?
[15:54] <HellTiger> ok, that was once the case here, alexandros
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> HellTiger: the ubuntu moblin was killed off with the decline in netbook sales when the market saturated. Best to try something like lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:55] <Fevix> ALl of the hardware was detected and usable prior to the update.
[15:55] <HellTiger> adsc: maybe i missunderstand, what for systems do you operate in outlook?
[15:55] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[15:55] <TJ-> alexandros: Check in "/var/log/syslog" for Network-Manager entries. They are usually very verbose and descriptive
[15:55] <HellTiger> ok hitsujiTMO, thx
[15:56] <alexandros> TJ- ok!
[15:56] <adsc> HellTiger: payment systems, scheduling systems, other systems that operate on business tasks
[15:56] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[15:56] <HellTiger> so i didnt understand which part of ubuntu you want to use in it.
[15:56] <adsc> I just heard Ubuntu is good and I want to give it a try, but only if it works from within outlook, because outlook is the best program
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: none of them are operating systems
[15:57] <adsc> hitsujiTMO: maybe not, but they also are systems that operate on something, so why can't Ubuntu operating system be used in outlook?
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: ubuntu is an operating system, like windows or OS X. It doesn't run in a app
[15:57] <HellTiger> you can use thunderbird in ubuntu, or outlook in windows
[15:57] <HellTiger> but you cant install windows into outlook
[15:58] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, it seems with nomodeset i can see the splash image but after that it gives me a shell (not in X environment) saying: general error mounting filesystems. A maintenance shell will be now started. CONTROL-D will terminate and reboot the system. bash: groups : command not found
[15:58] <sh0t> a different problem it seems
[15:58] <HellTiger> maybe he means the cloud services of ubuntu
[15:58] <adsc> hmmm
[15:58] <HellTiger> adsc: what do you think is ubuntu?
[15:58] <HellTiger> and what exactly is outlook
[15:58] <adsc> but what use is Ubuntu, when you can not use it in outlook? Does anyone use anything else besides outlook?
[15:59] <Fevix> Can anyone assist me? A recent update caused my machine to stop recognizing any hardware.
[15:59] <TJ-> adsc: If you were talking about an Outlook KVM switch you might make a little more sense, but as it is... !
[15:59] <adsc> HellTiger: i don't know what Ubuntu is, I just heard it's good...and outlook is simply the best program...everyone I know uses it
[15:59] <TJ-> Fevix: Review the log-files "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" in particular
[16:00] <Fevix> TJ-: Will do.
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> adsc: are you reffering to microsoft outlook?
[16:00] <DJones> adsc: You are talking about Outlook the email client?
[16:00] <HellTiger> adsc: compare both articles:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[16:00] <kingfisher64> according to http://fosshelp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1310.html tachyons gnome 3.10 breaks unity. I'm still going to install as it looks like i'd prefer it. Did you not experience anything breaking?
[16:00] <adsc> HellTiger: yeah, if you can really operate systems in Ubuntu, I am very interested
[16:00] <chep> hello there
[16:01] <adsc> DJones: yeah, I guess, but outlook is so much more
[16:01] <HellTiger> well i bet its microsoft windows what you mean adsc.
[16:01] <adsc> outlook is in a windows, yes
[16:02] <DJones> adsc: From that perspective, Ubuntu is like Windows, they're both operating systems that you would run an email client on top of
[16:02] <adsc> but i don't want Ubuntu to be in another windows, it should be in the same window as outlook
[16:02] <adsc> what do you mean like windows? I don't need more windows
[16:02] <DJones> adsc: Well, no you can't do that
[16:02] <HellTiger> well this is hopeless, you need to read both articles carefull adsc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[16:02] <ruth> Guys, will  "sudo apt-get remove pipelight"  erase all commands I put in the terminal for it? I tried to get netflix and it runs but is quite choppy sometimes, so I decided to erase it. Then, I tried it a few more times and then tried to erase it again being it was still choppy. Then.... I saw the pipelight for silverlight in the software center and downloaded and, still the netflix is choppy. What should I do?
[16:03] <Fevix> I do not know what I'm looking at here. I'm transferring the two files mentioned to a flash drive and will upload them to my dropbox to see if any of you can help.
[16:04] <peasant65> please can someone help me ?...
[16:04] <adsc> DJones: okay, thanks. A pity, I guess. Also, I don't understand what use Ubuntu is, then, if it doesn't work in outlook...who doesn't use Outlook?
[16:04] <chep> I'm trying to use extlinux to create a bootable usb stick. I dl  Syslinux 6.02, build it and execute it on archlinux, it works. When I do the same on ubuntu it fails => no boot, only syslinux copoyright displayed. When I use the binary compiled with archlinux on ubuntu, it fails too. When I use the binary compiled with ubuntu on archlinux, it works. So it's not a compilation problem, only execution. Does anyone know something about
[16:04] <chep> this?
[16:04] <jhutchins> peasant65: How can we answer if we don't know what you need help with?
[16:04] <peasant65> hi ! Can someone here help me setup the flash player for ampache (not Apache2!)
[16:04] <ruth> I also used the agent overrider in my browser to let it in.
[16:05] <peasant65> jhutchins I'm trying to setup ampache with flash player
[16:05] <chep> too much noise on this chan
[16:06] <peasant65> jhutchins only it won't display my flash player
[16:06] <HellTiger> peasant65: XSPF JukeBox Flash Player http://ampache.org/wiki/install:ubuntu
[16:06] <adsc> maybe I can pay someone to make Ubuntu work in outlook?
[16:06] <somsip> !ot | adsc
[16:06] <peasant65> HellTiger yes i've looked at it, and there is a command to inflate and place the flash player in the right dir
[16:06] <peasant65> only i've installed ampache somewhere else
[16:06] <HellTiger> adsc: this is getting absurd. you confuse the name of a email client with a operating system. ask a friend how both software works.
[16:06] <DJones> adsc: No, there's no point continuing to ask
[16:06] <peasant65> so i moved it there, but that doesnt work
[16:06] <Fevix> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/syslog and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/kern.log <--Ubuntu 13.10 stopped recognizing any and all hardware after an update.
[16:07] <somsip> HellTiger: please don't feed the troll. If he continues he wil be removed
[16:07] <HellTiger> roger
[16:07] <TeraJL> hi there, my sound stops working by no apparent reason.. after reboot it works for some seconds and just stops... and suspend works too... but only for 1min max
[16:07] <adsc> okay, I give up, thanks for the help, guys
[16:07] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[16:07] <HellTiger> some times i am really naive
[16:07] <Rualmoneyman> Hello Im trying to boot Ubuntu 12.04.03 from Usb and i go through the steps,but it restarts every time.
[16:07] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: so I purged but same error...how do I fix the packages labeled as "Broken"
[16:08] <peasant65> no way someone is gonna help me
[16:08] <peasant65> sad
[16:08] <kenneth___> use dd to make a bootable USB drive wirks the best
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: can you paste the link to the error again
[16:09] <v0lksman> basically the same error as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[16:09] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: ^
[16:09] <kenneth___> her is link on how to make a usb https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Flash_Installation_Media
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: and whats the exact command you're give?
[16:10] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: I'm just running the Software Updater GUI
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> v0lksman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure   step 5
[16:10] <Fevix> Is there a command to scan for hardware on the system, and start using it?
[16:11] <jhutchins> peasant65: Generally, if you have flash installed on your system, programs that need to play flash content can access it via the standard path or the usual Firefox plugin directory.
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: can you tell me which package is being marked as broken?
[16:11] <jhutchins> peasant65: However, if you go installing packages from outside of Ubuntu, people in Ubuntu won't know how to help you.
[16:11] <peasant65> jhutchins it's not a problem with the flash player itself, ampache just doesnt list it as a play option
[16:11] <v0lksman> hitsujiTMO: lots of xserver-xorg packages...I had the xorg-edgers repo enabled
[16:11] <peasant65> jhutchins well... ampaches irc is kinda dead
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> v0lksman: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[16:12] <jhutchins> peasant65: That is not surprising.  You will probably have to use their mailing lists or forums instead.
[16:12] <kenneth___> How do I uninstall Xserver and install DirectX11 on ubuntu ?
[16:12] <peasant65> jhutchins ok:) thx anyway
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> kenneth___: directx is windows only
[16:13] <Fevix> I feel like I'm whispering in a noisy cafeteria here.
[16:14] <peasant65> Fevix lol yup
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: what type of hardware?
[16:14] <Fevix> ALL
[16:14] <Fevix> At least, anything that's not hardwired to the laptop
[16:15] <Fevix> We use external devices because the screen is shattered, and it feels clumsy to be using the laptop's keyboard and touchpad with the external monitor
[16:15] <Fevix> Additionally, the wireless adaptor isn't working.
[16:15] <kenneth___> On could fart in here and blame it on peasant65
 what is dd ?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: usually you'd need to modprobe the driver or add a udev rule if its not something basic like a keyboard or monitor
[16:16] <kenneth___> Rualmoneyman https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Flash_Installation_Media
[16:16] <Fevix> Walk me through this? I literally started using Ubuntu this morning.
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: first. what type of hardware is it?
[16:17] <Fevix> Define type. It's an external mouse, an external keyboard, an external monitor, and an internal wireless adaptor
[16:17] <Fevix> Mouse and keyboard are USB, monitor is VGA
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: ok, everything bar the wifi adaper should work immediately. are they not?
[16:18] <Fevix> I can give brands and models if you need them
[16:18] <Fevix> THey are not.
[16:18] <Fevix> ONly the internal keyboard and touchpad are working.
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: ok. have you wired internet access?
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: from the laptop that is
[16:19] <Fevix> I do not, but I could move the entire setup into the living room with the router for it, but then I'd have to run back and forth from here to there (WIlling to do this)
[16:19] <kenneth___> Isn't wireless still turned off by default after install
[16:19] <Fevix> kenneth___: It was working out of the box after I installed originally
[16:19] <kenneth___> Oh ok
[16:20] <tim`> are there not linux-tools-common packages to match up with kernel-ppa kernel images like 3.13-rc8?
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: it would be much easier with internet access to be honest
[16:20] <ruth> oops I got off    ummm so where am I with Netflix pipelight and slow choppy reception.
[16:20] <Fevix> Alright, lemme move the stuff. Back in a minute.
[16:20] <andrea_> hi
[16:21] <andrea_> does anyone know how to setup a tftp server?
[16:21] <TJ-> Fevix: is that system set for Secure Boot?
[16:22] <kenneth___> Fevix: try adding iommu=soft to you boot loader options I bet it will work then...
[16:22] <ruth> I can't scroll back up this xchat page to see if I got any answers about Netflix lagging. Can someone help with my question.
[16:22] <TJ-> Fevix: ignore that, I can see it isn't ... I did see a signed module warning
[16:22] <Fevix> tj-: Not that I'm aware of..
[16:22] <Rualmoneyman> Hello im trying to install Ubuntu from usb,I gi through all the steps and the last one install alongside windows 7 i press it and once i do that it resets the computer.
[16:23] <Fevix> kenneth___: Can you explain in more detaul what that'll do?
[16:24] <Fevix> I have plugged the ethernet cable into the computer's port, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Will the wifi icon in the top right change when ethernet is active?
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: yes it should. do you get any output from the command: lsusb
[16:25] <Fevix> the command lists the keyboard and mouse, but they are still non-functional
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: what version of ubuntu is this? that suggests maybe an xorg issue.
[16:26] <Fevix> 13.10
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Fevix can you try this:
[16:27] <kenneth___> it tells the the boot loder to use software for the bios hand off of devices during boot
[16:27] <TJ-> Fevix: disconnect the mouse, and try. It is causing constant errors on the USB hub
[16:28] <TeraJL> i've downloaded realtek drivers http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false (Linux Drivers (3.0))... but when i try to run ./install i get "./configure: not found" and "./snddevices: not found" and indeed those files are not there... i've downloaded multiple times, with same result... has anyone had this problem?
[16:29] <DF3D2> I know this is not *ideal* but if I clone an install from and INTEL motherboard to an AMD motherboard -- will ubuntu load the necessary drivers on boot usually?
[16:29] <DF3D2> I have something setup I can't seem to get setup again
[16:29] <kenneth___> It fixes allot of stuff like what you saying give it a try it wont do any harm
[16:29] <Fevix> too much all at once. ONe at a time, responding: TJ-: Unplugging the mouse did not do anything, should I reboot it?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: ubuntu should run
[16:29] <Fevix> hitsujiTMO: I'll try that next.
[16:29] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes, with a reboot .. the logs are full of USB resets of that mouse
[16:30] <aFeijo> hi
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> Am i the only one who hasn't seen logs for Fevix's system?
[16:31] <kenneth___> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[16:31] <kenneth___> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash iommu=soft"
[16:31] <kenneth___> sudo update-grub
[16:31] <TJ-> DF3D2: The only thing that might mess up is if you have proprietary (video) drivers installed and configured manually, which will confuse/break X windowing system
[16:31] <aFeijo> I'm trying to use variables ( FRED="\[\033[1;31m\]" ) to add color to my prompt, but instead showing in colors, it show the variable code in my prompt. What am I missing?
[16:31] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Yes ... scroll-back, he's posted them to dropbox
[16:31] <Fevix> hitsujiTMO: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/kern.log and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/syslog
[16:31] <DF3D2> TJ-, even if im going to use the same video cards?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> ahhh cool
[16:31] <TJ-> DF3D2: No, if the hardware is the same, then it'll be OK
[16:31] <DF3D2> TJ-, that is what I have setup that I just *cannot* seem to get to work agian -- amd proprietary drivers for a coin mining machine
[16:32] <jhutchins> !clone
[16:32] <TJ-> DF3D2: If the software ties itself to a particular PCI bus ID (a silly thing to do, but you know programmers!) then that could fail it... since in the new system the PCI bus ID could well be different
[16:32] <Fevix> negative, TJ- , keyboard, monitor, and net card still non-functional without mouse.
[16:33] <DF3D2> TJ-, true I could hand edit xorg in that case though then
[16:33] <TJ-> Fevix: Can you post the new kern.log? Let's see if we can identify anything else.
[16:33] <DF3D2> TJ-, or use aticonfig --adapter=all --initial
[16:33] <Fevix> Will do, back in a bit
[16:33] <TJ-> Fevix: also - are the devices plugged into the laptop itself, or an external hub?
[16:35] <Fevix> TJ-: Only one USB port on the laptop still functions. A USB hub is required.
[16:35] <Fevix> It's worked with the hub in the past, but when I applied the updates (I had to use the commands rather than the GUI), it all broke.
[16:35] <Fevix> command was: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:36] <Fevix> new kern.log: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/kern2.log
[16:36] <TJ-> Fevix: OK, now we're getting to it! Try connecting a single device directly to the laptop   and see if that device works. If it doesn't it'd point to that port having failed too
[16:37] <kingfisher64> okay that didn't work too well. Installed gnome and it's broken unity. Any suggestions on what to do to get both of these working side by sie?
[16:37] <DF3D2> TJ-, is that what you meant about pci- id's ? as long as I make sure they are correct in xorg.conf I should be good right?
[16:37] <Fevix> tj-: That still only explains keyboard and mouse failing, not the VGA port and the network adaptor (Ethernet port, too, now.)
[16:37] <TJ-> Fevix: the log was clean that time, the only USB-related warning is that /dev/sdb1 needs an fsck since it was unmounted unclean
[16:38] <Fevix> I think it told about the resets cause I unplugged and replugged it a few times (Since that's usually the reason)
[16:38] <TJ-> Fevix: The VGA port may be down to the fact the the VESAFB driver is loading. Can you pastebin the results of "lspci -nnk && lsusb && lsusb -t" please?
[16:39] <Fevix> One moment.
[16:39] <kingfisher64> followed instructions from http://fosshelp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1310.html to initially install gnome
[16:40] <TJ-> Fevix: and according to the syslog, Network-Manager simply is missing some 'key' and fails to connect to an open wifi network
[16:40] <Joel> I uploaded a package to launchpad last night, but haven't gotten an email with accepted/rejected, yadda, thoughts?
[16:41] <aFeijo> I'm trying to use variables ( FRED="\[\033[1;31m\]" ) to add color to my prompt, but instead showing in colors, it show the variable code in my prompt. What am I missing?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: whats the output of: echo $PS1
[16:42] <kingfisher64> surely it can't be right that there is no minimize/maximise window buttons in new gnome? There is close icon
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: which version of gnome do you mean?
[16:43] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, it show the variables names: $HC$FMAG ... so should I use something special in the variable syntax?
[16:43] <aFeijo> like ${} ?
[16:43] <kingfisher64> on login I chose just gnome as opposed to gnome classic ActionParsnip
[16:44] <Fevix> Results of lspci -nnk && lsusb && lsusb -t: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/lspci.txt
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: thats not new anything, thats just a different session
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: please pastebin the full output of: echo $PS1
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: what version of gnome are you running?
[16:45] <donvito> 0 * * * *   root   service pcscd restart > /dev/null 2>&1 --- if i want this command to work every 2 hours what should i add to this line?
[16:45] <donvito> 0 2 * * *   root   service pcscd restart > /dev/null 2>&1
[16:45] <donvito> is this ok ?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> donvito: */2    I believe
[16:45] <kingfisher64> sorry ActionParsnip didn't mean to logout then
[16:45] <TJ-> Fevix: looks to me as if the loss of video is due to the AMD video driver not being installed/built for this kernel/loaded
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> donvito: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6423532/how-to-run-crontab-for-every-2-hours
[16:45] <donvito> 0 */2 * * *   root   service pcscd restart > /dev/null 2>&1
[16:45] <donvito> so this is okk
[16:45] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/1rfyXjC8
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> donvito: top link when I searched for 'cron every 2 hours' in google....
[16:46] <davide_> oii
[16:46] <kingfisher64> i followed tutorial on http://fosshelp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1310.html to install gnome alongside unity but it's broken unity when I now login
[16:46] <kingfisher64> ActionParsnip ^^^
[16:47] <davide_> hi!
[16:47] <TJ-> Fevix: I see there's wired and wireless network adapters; which is used to connect to the network?
[16:47] <davide_> buahah
[16:47] <Fevix> The network is currently connected physically to the computer via Ethernet, but does not seem to be working.
[16:47] <Fevix> Prior to everything going FUBAR, it was a wireless connection
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: then its not supported here, you are not using Gnome from the official repos
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: I suggest you ask in #gnome
[16:48] <kingfisher64> so, there's more than one gnome version?
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: it seems you have not correctly declared the vars/$PS1 as the var names are showing up in the output. where did you declare them?
[16:49] <lanodan> Hello, I got a problem with dpkg and the package libgtk2.0-0
[16:50] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, just above the PS1="" line, same syntax: RS="\[\033[0m]"
[16:50] <aFeijo> RS="\[\033[0m\]"
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: can you pastebin the full script please
[16:50] <aFeijo> y
[16:51] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/4fzWLpJC
[16:52] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, those variables I get from a site after googling about
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: there is the one we support here which is from the ubuntu repos, there is one from the PPA you have added which is not supported here
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: you're using the literal quotes '   not "
[16:53] <aFeijo> omg
[16:53]  * aFeijo dumb
[16:53] <aFeijo> testing
[16:53] <aFeijo> yep
[16:53] <FloodBot1> aFeijo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <aFeijo> thanks hitsujiTMO
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: np
[16:53] <aFeijo> FloodBot1, I didt :p
[16:53] <TJ-> Fevix: Is the external USB hub self-powered?
[16:53] <kingfisher64> oh no, I only wanted to install the supported gnome. What would you suggest I do to remove this unsupported version ActionParsnip ?
[16:53] <Fevix> If you mean does it take batteries or anything, no.
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | kingfisher64
[16:54] <kingfisher64> i take it version gnome 3.10 breaks unity
[16:54] <TJ-> Fevix: No, I mean, does it have its own power supply rather than drawing power from the PC's port?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: install ppa-purge and you can roll back. I am not sure if it changes your configs any so results after may not be as expected
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher64: its a PPA, so who knows what it has done
[16:55] <Never> ciao
[16:55] <Fevix> No.
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> !list > Never
[16:56] <kingfisher64> so sudo-apt get install ppa-purge hitsujiTMO, ActionParsnip ?
[16:57] <demophobia> how do i create a new folder in /home where the user accounts are stored? it's greyed out
[16:57] <kingfisher64> excuse the newbieness!
[16:57] <demophobia> I want to create a Music folder accessible to all users
[16:57] <TJ-> Fevix: It could well be that for some reason the power draw is interfering. The most power-hungry device would seem to be the USB storage, so as a test of this possibility I'd recommend unplugging the hub from the PC, disconnect the storage device leaving the keyboard/mouse device connected, and reconnect the hub to the PC... *as* you do that, in a terminal monitor the log-file with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: yessum
[16:58] <lanodan> Did someone knows here how to force uninstall a package ?
[16:58] <TJ-> Fevix: You should see all the USB devices recognised and configured as input devices
[16:58] <Fevix> TJ-: I only plug the storage device in when I'm making logs, so that I can transfer them to this computer and upload them.
[16:58] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, last question. Note that I have this $(__git_ps1 " [%s]"), now it dont work, as I'm using double quote, I try changing to single quote and \", nothing worked
[16:59] <Fevix> The device is unplugged the rest of the time.
[16:59] <TJ-> demophobia: The best way to do that would be "sudo mkdir /home/all && sudo chown root:users /home/all && sudo chmod g+rwx /home/all"
[16:59] <Fevix> (It's sitting on the desk in front of me as I type this)
[16:59] <TJ-> demophobia: And then create your folders under "/home/all/"
[16:59] <demophobia> TJ-, does that create a folder in /home called "all"?
[17:00] <demophobia> thank you
[17:00] <Munster> G'day
[17:00] <TJ-> Fevix: The only thing I can think is that the "usbhid" driver isn't being loaded. Try "sudo modprobe usbhid"
[17:01] <demophobia> TJ-, i did that and it created a folder but i still cannot create a new folder in 'all' using the browser gui
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: try escaping the $: \$(blah blah)
[17:01] <Fevix> FATTAL: MOdule usbhid not found
[17:01] <demophobia> i need to be able to operate using the operating system rather than only terminal
[17:01] <TJ-> demophobia: Is your user a member of group 'users' ? Check with "groups" ... that will list all system groups you are a member of
[17:01] <demophobia> when i right click to create a new folder it's still greyed out
[17:01] <demophobia> oh
[17:02] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, that did :)
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: try escaping the and then escape the quotes too actually
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: cool
[17:02] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, it worked with single quotes
[17:02] <demophobia> 'users' is not listed there
[17:02] <TJ-> Fevix: Hmmm, that's helpful!
[17:02] <Rualmoneyman> Im trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.03 using Usb but everytime i ps go through all the steps it resets my computer.
[17:02]  * aFeijo should read more about bash
[17:02] <demophobia> > adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[17:04] <kingfisher64> i've installed 2 ppa's. ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-next, ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging hitsujiTMO. so I would need to be in unity to remove these packages?
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: no, just purge away
[17:04] <kingfisher64> i'm logged right now into gnome 3 which I will be purging
[17:05] <kingfisher64> apologies for the many questions
[17:05] <TJ-> demophobia: OK, looks like you aren't... check the system does has that group with "getent group users". If it does, then you'll need to do "sudo adduser $USER users" and *then* you'll need to log-out and log-in again for the change to be in effect
[17:05] <robaczki> hi
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: you should be able to purge away without an issue. your xsession may restart
[17:06] <demophobia> ok ty
[17:06] <TJ-> Fevix: I noticed that the vesafv module is reported to fail the signing check... together with the other issues, I suspect some file-system corruption
[17:06] <kingfisher64> ok i'll give that a go now hitsujiTMO. thank you.
[17:06] <demophobia> Is there really not an easier way to share Rhythmbox music library with all users? ...
[17:08] <sk1special> so..anyone know why none of the effects im choosing in ccsm are activating/working?
[17:08] <Fevix> TJ-: That's what more or less forced us into Ubuntu in the first place (It used to be a Win7 machine, but started to no longer boot, so I had the idea to install Linux rather than try to scrounge around for our WIn7 install disk)
[17:08] <sk1special> or better channel to ask.
[17:08] <TJ-> Fevix: The modules should be in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`\" and its sub-dirs. Unless the system ran out of space, missing and damaged files points to corruption. You could do "du -h" to check space
[17:09] <Fevix> Back in a min with redults of du -h
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> df -h
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[17:09] <TJ-> Fevix: No sign of hard disk errors in the logs that I noticed
[17:09] <kingfisher64> finally, I installed a few apps following this http://fosshelp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1310.html tutorial. Should I unintall those apps first, remove the 2 ppa's, reboot then login to unity and all should be fixed hitsujiTMO
[17:09] <demophobia> Fevix, this desktop is also now using ubuntu 12.04 because i couldn't find the vista home premium windows disk after the registry got corrupted
[17:09] <TJ-> Fevix: *** "df -h" ****
[17:09] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[17:09] <rustuptwist1> weird problems with installing ubuntu 12.04.03 on my kids laptops.
[17:10] <demophobia> TJ-, thanks, i'll work on this more later i think
[17:10] <johan_> geek242
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: its not 100% necessary, but you could remove gdm to get back to lightdm
[17:10] <rustuptwist1> we get to the install screen, choose install ubuntu inside/alongside windows then the machine reboots as if it needs to for the install, but yet doesnt install
[17:10] <TJ-> demophobia: I've always had a "/home/all/" for such things, I also mount network shares there too. Makes it simple to know where to go for any all-user resources
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> rustuptwist1: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:11] <Fevix> du -h spat out a list of a bunch of files and their sizes, but right clicking on Computer and clicking properties tells me I have 200-something GB free
[17:11] <TJ-> Fevix: *** "df -h" **** sorry, I mistyped
[17:11] <TJ-> Fevix: It'll tell you the space used and free on each mounted file-system
[17:12] <rustuptwist1> ActionParsnip:  I did not. but it is the same one the installed on my sons hp pavilion dv2000 the night before
[17:12] <kingfisher64> the process I was going to do was 1) sudo apt-get remove gnome-documents gnome-contacts epiphany-browser gnome-boxes gnome-shell-extensions gnome-tweak-tool bijiben gnome-clocks. 2) purge ppa's 3) sudo apt-get remove gdm. hitsujiTMO. If that's okay i'll get going now.
[17:12] <TJ-> Fevix: If you see anything with 5% or less free, that'd be a concern
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> rustuptwist1: you can check the CD for defects too, also test the RAM using the CD as well
[17:13] <TJ-> rustuptwist1: Is that a DVD or a USB? If DVD, it might simply need a clean
[17:13] <Fevix> highest use% is 2%, which is the main hard drive
[17:13] <Fevix> All others are 1% or 0%
[17:13] <rustuptwist1> ActionParsnip:  the USB seemed to do the same thing. It was a DVD. I will check the disc right now, brb
[17:13] <TJ-> Fevix: OK, so not that... looks more like corruption when the files were installed
[17:14] <Fevix> Is there a way I can download the proper files to my USB drive and install them that way?
[17:14] <TJ-> Fevix: Can you connect via an Ethernet cable temporarily, then you could force-reinstall the suspect files
[17:15] <Fevix> I'm unable to connect via ethernet. The cable's been plugged in since boot, and there's been no connection
[17:15] <Fevix> (Yes, plugged in to modem as well)
[17:15] <TJ-> Fevix: hang on, I've had an idea. I'll check on a 13.10 system here what the unique MD5 hashes of the package are, and you can compare them with those on that PC. If they match, you'll be safe to reinstall from the PC's local cache
[17:15] <sk1special> is there a way to Make my video card work with unity 3d?
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: dont remove 1)  just remove gdm
[17:16] <Fevix> HOw can I get the hashes while you're working on that?
[17:16] <Xuisce1> hi
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: what card it ir?
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> is it*
[17:16] <TJ-> Fevix: Check if the package exists: "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic_3.11.0-15.23_amd64.deb"
[17:16] <rustuptwist1> ActionParsnip:  there was a smudge but nothing much else on the disk
[17:17] <TJ-> Fevix: Is that system 32-bit, I just thought I didn't notice 64-bit indications
[17:18] <TJ-> Fevix: It is, from reading the kern.log, so my hashes won't help.
[17:18] <TJ-> Anyone here running 13.10 32-bit and can generate some MD5 sums for us?
[17:18] <rustuptwist1> ActionParsnip:  I am using the 12.04.03 desktop AMD 64 bit disk. Do you think there is a better option than that?
[17:19] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, ah..idk? :] whatever integrated thing this old acer came with? :] i just ran /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  and it says no.
[17:19] <Fevix> TJ-: Yeah, I was typing it in when I ran into the amd64 and that set off flags.
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: if it says no then no
[17:19] <Fevix> I'd be running 64 bit if I had more than 2GB ram for it
[17:20] <TJ-> Fevix: try this: "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic_3.11.0-15.23*.deb"
[17:20] <Xuisce1> hm
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: can you pastebin the output of: lspci | grep VGA
[17:20] <TJ-> Fevix: Then, if there is one get the hash with "md5sum  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic_3.11.0-15.23*.deb"
[17:21] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809417/
[17:21] <Xuisce1> hm
[17:21] <Fevix> It spits out in red, the same thing, but with "i386" where the * is
[17:21] <Greenstar> hi :)
[17:22] <Fevix> I ran the md5sum, my sister's Skyping me the result.
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: erm, you're gonna have trouble even getting the xserver to run on that
[17:23] <TJ-> Fevix: This is what is expected: MD5sum: eec78a8e79102704d61e1cd376c2b8ab
[17:23] <Fevix> First and last 3 match what I can remember
[17:23] <Fevix> Sums match
[17:23] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, yeah... i had to do..i dont remember. xforcevesa? and.. nomodeset? or something to get it installed.
[17:23] <TJ-> Fevix: Looks like the local package is good then, so you can go ahead with a reinstall "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic"
[17:24] <TJ-> Fevix: and watch for any errors :)
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: i'm surprised you even got it to install
[17:24] <TJ-> Fevix:  in a 2nd terminal let's check the -extras package too, because that'll need reinstalling as well
[17:24] <rustuptwist1> Attempted to boot/install from 12.04.03 DVD just now. Went to a black screen then laptop ejected the disc. What gives
[17:25] <TJ-> Fevix: "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-extra-3.11.0-15-generic_3.11.0-15.23_i386.deb"
[17:25] <demophobia> TJ-, makes sense
[17:25] <TJ-> Fevix: MD5sum: eb08b472b7195cb1cb154b52f9fc5c98
[17:25] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, it took awhile and a lot of tries and disbaling things.. but new question since im in pos land. u know why my wireless network wont connect unless i find it under hidden networks?
[17:25] <Fevix> "Version 'generic' for "linux-image-(Stuff)" not found"
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Network
[17:26] <TJ-> Fevix: hmm!
[17:26] <kenneth___> what should I use dd or rsync, or something else, to mirror/clone an entire repository to be stored locally and hosted locally at a later time?
[17:26] <Fevix> Nevermind
[17:27] <Fevix> I did "Blahblah =generid rather than -generic
[17:27] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809465/
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> kenneth___: rsync
[17:27] <TJ-> Fevix: *phew :)
[17:27] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, it works fine, but it doesnt show my network normally. when i search for it under hidden it does. but its not hidden.
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: you'll prob just need to switch drivers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)
[17:28] <TJ-> kenneth___: If it is an Ubuntu repository, use the apt tools that are designed to create local mirrors
[17:28] <rustuptwist1> when attemtpting USB install (using 12.0.4.03 iso) basically similar events, laptop restarts but does not install. HELP
[17:28] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, ah thats where i installed the driver for it from. the proprietary didnt work. and they only have one for the model#
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: then try another. there's usually more than one that works with a single device
[17:30] <Fevix> Extras MD5 checked out, reinstalling now.
[17:32] <TJ-> Fevix: To see if that has fixed the missing usbhid.ko module, you can try "modinfo usbhid"
[17:32] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, ah okay. haha one more. how about why my swap(cryptswap) isnt working. tried http://tinyurl.com/ln7myoa , but i know its not working even tho it said succesful/shows the space. because no space is used and system monitor stays at 0 for swap
[17:32] <rustuptwist1> maybe this compaq is set up not to allow a dual/install. is that possible?
[17:32] <vader_> hi guys
[17:32] <Fevix> It spat out a buncha lines at me
[17:32] <TJ-> Fevix: That's good :)
[17:33] <TJ-> Fevix: "sudo modprobe usbhid"
[17:33] <TJ-> Fevix: and check the kern.log
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: pastebin the output of: free -m
[17:34] <TJ-> Fevix: You could now try a reboot just to ensure all the other things are fixed, but be aware, if these files were damaged, there is no telling if others are too. If you see other random weirdness that will likely be the cause.
[17:34] <Fevix> newest kern.log: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23659259/ubuntu/kern3.log
[17:34] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809510/
[17:35] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, it shows the space there. and it shows fine in gparted. and it said it was working when i was done setting it up..but its not
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: your swap is working. you're just not using enough ram to warrant swapping
[17:36] <vader_> i have this strange thing hapening, I have a dell laptop, and I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 I wanted to right cd but the info was to big for one cd so I thought I wright it on a DVD, then is when I found out that ubuntu sees my cd-s but not my dvd-s any idea why ? and yes my dvd unit is a dvd unit and it works I booted up an ubuntu 13.04 live dvd from it
[17:36] <TJ-> Fevix: That's got your input devices... do a reboot
[17:36] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, even when i do a bunch of stuff tho it never shows as being used? and it still shows the dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not present or not ready thing at startup (which is why i tried that one page atfirst)
[17:37] <Fevix> Thanks! NOw the rest can be done on the much more comfortable keyboard and mouse, if there's more to be done!
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: you've 2gb of ram. right now you're using 432 mb. By default linux won't start swapping until you hit 60% of ram usage
[17:38] <rogerbraun> http://triprojects.site11.com/Gifoteca/biblio/carrot-bukkake_o_GIFSoup.com.gif
[17:38] <vader_> i have this strange thing hapening, I have a dell laptop, and I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 I wanted to right cd but the info was to big for one cd so I thought I wright it on a DVD, then is when I found out that ubuntu sees my cd-s but not my dvd-s any idea why ? and yes my dvd unit is a dvd unit and it works I booted up an ubuntu 13.04 live dvd from it
[17:39] <Fevix> And with a reboot, the net adaptor and the monitor are properly active!
[17:39] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, ah mmk. t/y
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | rogerbraun
[17:39] <Fevix> Thanks so much, TJ-!
[17:39] <rogerbraun> sorry guys, my irc client made an error, please ignore
[17:40] <TJ-> Fevix: You're welcome... that was a teaser to figure out
[17:41] <Angron> Is there a difference between the ~ /.local & ~ /local? Or its different folder names?
[17:41] <TJ-> Fevix: As I said, be wary of other corruption in programs and data
[17:42] <SN3> can some one unban me from ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:42] <Fevix> Well there weren't many programs to begin with. THis install is only a few hours old.
[17:42] <Fevix> Less than an hour old when I originally came in
[17:43] <vader_> so guys any ideas on my thing ?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> SN3: #ubuntu-ops
[17:43] <TJ-> Fevix: OK... well if anything shows up, try to identify the package the program belongs in using "dpkg-query -S $NAME_OF_FILE" which will give you the package name to reinstall
[17:46] <Fevix> Any other self-troubleshooting tips/commands?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> vader_: 13.04 is dead in less than a week.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> vader_: I suggest you upgrade to Saucy soon
[17:47] <Fevix> ... uh oh. NOw there's a window that simply says "System program problem detected". The only options I have are cancel and report problem.
[17:49] <Fevix> Attempting to report leads to another window: "Sorry, Ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error". Clicking the more details button tells me the executable path is "sbin/wpa_supplicant".
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: thats part of the wifi stack.
[17:50] <Fevix> My wireless internet uses WEP, not WPA.
[17:50] <TJ-> Fevix: Might I suggest, for peace of mind, a full reinstall of the entire OS? I think you'd be better off
[17:50] <Fevix> TJ-: Point me to something I can use a USB stick for?
[17:51] <Fevix> THis install was done with Linux Live, and this is the second time I've had to reinstall.
[17:51] <TJ-> Fevix: Was there corruption the 1st time ?
[17:52] <TJ-> Fevix: I'm wondering if the PC itself needs attention at the hardware level ... disk interface cables, fans (overheating issues), and so on
[17:52] <Fevix> Not this kind. This time was better. Last time, when I tried to apply the update, it said that there was a programming error in the apt-daemon or something like that
[17:53] <Fevix> After a reboot, the computer simply said "Error: Attempt to read or write outside HD-0" or something, and said press any key to continue, but it locked up at that point
[17:53] <TJ-> Fevix: I suspect that PC has bad RAM modules; start from the install ISO image and run memtest86+
[17:54] <sk1special> so one more. how do i disconnect from the internet but stay on the network?
[17:54] <TJ-> Fevix: One of my servers got hit that way last week, memtest86 saved me a lot of hair-pulling :)
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: disable the default gateway
[17:54] <Fevix> Can it be run without a reboot? I... sorta just reformatted the USB stick in preparation for another installer.
[17:55] <Joel> when I call a dput to put my package up in my ppa, it tells me it already exists, but I have no ability to see the package from the launchpad website, thoughts on what to do next? I never received an email the first go around, I believe because I didn't have my gpg key up in launchpad
[17:56] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, just change it to something random? and thatll keep me on my local network?
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> Fevix: you need to be in a minimal environment for it to work propperly
[17:56] <TJ-> Fevix: It has to be run at boot-time... it can be installed to boot from hard disk though... "sudo apt-get install memtest86+" ... It will add itself to the GRUB boot menu, which you can get to at boot-time by holding down Shift key as the system starts *immediately* after the BIOS POST
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: try: sudo ip route del 0/0
[17:56] <Joel> I guess it looks like I should bump the package number and re-upload
[17:56] <TJ-> Fevix: That assumes possible memory errors don't corrupt memtest :)
[17:57] <TJ-> Joel: no key would do it, yes. You'll need bump the version
[17:57] <Joel> TJ-: thanks.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> sk1special: or: sudo ip route del default
[17:58] <TJ-> Fevix: You can get the ISO images from here, if you don't already know: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/
[17:58] <Fevix> tried to apt-get install memtest86+, already newest version
[17:59] <TJ-> Fevix: OK, then its already in the GRUB menu! you can check that now with "grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[18:00] <Fevix> Question, is there a webchat for this room? It'd be easier on me, since the computer's more or less running 'properly'
[18:01] <gregf_> hello, sorry for bothering again :)
[18:01] <Fevix2> Nevermind, found a webchat on my own.
[18:01] <gregf_> i'm trying to install php (5.3.x) and i get an error apache2: Syntax error on line 210 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/access_compat.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:02] <gregf_> the file itself does not exist :/
[18:02] <gregf_> /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_access_compat.so
[18:02] <Fevix2> http://pastebin.com/kGig98wG Does this look right?
[18:02] <sk1special> hitsujiTMO, that worked..but i probably shouldve asked what command cuts it back on before i tried it.
[18:03] <ezra-s> gregf_, you dont really need that module, disable it in your apache conf
[18:03] <gregf_> apache does not start :(. it was , until i installed that php version
[18:03] <impossible> was hexchat ever in the soft. center?
[18:03] <impossible> its not there since like 12.04 or something
[18:03] <ezra-s> gregf_, php has nothing to do with access_compat afaik
[18:03] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes, reboot and run it from GRUB
[18:03] <bazhang> impossible, in a PPA
[18:03] <gregf_> ezra-s: well i dont know what its for, but would disabling it not break php :/
[18:04] <impossible> before the ppa
[18:04] <ezra-s> gregf_, access_compat is to allow the 2.2 Order deny,allow Allow from all directives which are deprecated in 2.4
[18:04] <gregf_> let me try, cuz after installing php 5 as: sudo apt-get -t precise install php5=5.3.10-1ubuntu3.9
[18:04] <ezra-s> so there is no need to use that module any more
[18:04] <gregf_> i get that error
[18:04] <gregf_> ezra-s: ah - ok
[18:04] <ezra-s> the error you show is only apache2 start error due to faulty syntax
[18:05] <Fevix> It said it was loading GRUB, but then it's loading the normal thing?
[18:05] <Fevix> Yeah, it's loaded the normal OS.
[18:05] <Fevix> At least, loks like it.
[18:06] <cdwSymfony> Question about building a module using dh-make-pecl...  The extension directory is one level deeper than where debuilder expects... What is the recommended way to solve that?
[18:06] <yuyuyu> can you help me in kali linux
[18:06] <HellTiger_> will lubuntu have the same set of drivers on install disc as ubuntu?
[18:07] <gregf_> ezra-s : now a different module load fails :/
[18:07] <gregf_> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authn_core.load
[18:07] <TJ-> Fevix: You have to hold down Shift key as the system starts to get to the GRUB menu
[18:08] <Fevix> I did that
[18:08] <Fevix> It flashed a line saying something about "Starting GRUB" but then it booted Ubuntu
[18:08] <TJ-> Fevix: Shift on the external or internal keyboard?
[18:09] <gregf_> ezra-s: when i'd installed php5.4.* i never got any of these errors when starting apache
[18:09] <ezra-s> gregf_, did you touch the config or that's default config?
[18:09] <Fevix> extIt worked this time
[18:09] <ezra-s> modules/mod_authz_core.so <- only this is needed by default for basic configurations afaik
[18:09] <gregf_> ezra-s: which config please :(
[18:09] <yuyuyu> hello
[18:09] <yuyuyu> hello
[18:09] <yuyuyu> hello
[18:09] <FloodBot1> yuyuyu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <TJ-> Do we have any Duet/tianocore hackers ?
[18:09] <ezra-s> gregf_, I don't do ubuntu apache default layout sorry
[18:10] <gregf_> ezra-s: not that i can think of
[18:10] <yuyuyu> can you see me
[18:10] <ezra-s> I just use httpd, but I don't use the multifile-layout, it's a mess for me
[18:10] <yuyuyu> can you see my text
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> yuyuyu: yes
[18:10] <yuyuyu> ok thacks
[18:11] <Rosbuntu> how do u make usb driver for ubuntu
[18:11] <Fevix> so is memtest86+ basically writing to each bit in the RAM to try to find errors?
[18:11] <countthestars185> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, and I get a kernel panic every time I run a bittorrent client like transmission or deluge.  Does anyone know how I might go about fixing this?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Rosbuntu: drivers take lots of skill and patience
[18:12] <ezra-s> gregf_, do "apachectl -D DUMP_MODULES"
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: run it from terminal. The output may give clues
[18:12] <max456> how do you xrdp on an ubuntu server ?
[18:12] <Rosbuntu> i have patience but not sure about skill ActionParsnip
[18:13] <Rosbuntu> my ubuntu comes with hotot, but i cant log in to hotot with my twitter account
[18:13] <Rosbuntu> how do i solve the issue
[18:13] <gregf_> ezra-s:ezra-s:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809685/
[18:14] <gregf_> s/(ezra-s)$//
[18:14] <gregf_> bah- nm
[18:15] <average> hello, how can I keep an eye on Ubuntu's kernel changes ?
[18:15] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes, it uses lots of different patterns and write algorithms to try to trigger and detect problems. I've sometimes had it running for over 24 hours on larger systems, there isn't much it'll miss
[18:15] <average> I'd like to have a look at what custom things get in
[18:15] <ezra-s> gregf_, some modules I'm sure you don't need, but I don't see the modules you mentioned before
[18:15] <average> I'd also like to keep an eye on things that are included as running daemons for base installs
[18:15] <gregf_> ezra-s: well i've commented the line that loads them now :/. 3 in all
[18:16] <average> is this possible in some way ?
[18:16] <average> like maybe you have blog posts about it or something
[18:16] <average> or maybe the safest way would just be looking at ChangeLogs ?
[18:16] <average> also, does the community have a say in what goes into Ubuntu and what does not go into it ? I mean in an upcoming release
[18:17] <average> by way of democratic vote for example
[18:17] <younes> Hello can someone help me?
[18:17] <gregf_> ezra-s:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/access_compat.load , /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authn_core.load , /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mpm_event.load
[18:18] <gregf_> ezra-s: this is what i can see : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6809711/
[18:18] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip: Running Deluge via terminal now, no output in terminal at all.  Everything seems to be running normally.  The problem is that the kernel panic causes the system to crash so even if there was some output in the terminal I might miss it.  I took a picture of the crash screen with my phone.  I'm not sure if that will help
[18:19] <gregf_> but when i make a request: http://localhost/info.php,  it returns the response as plaintext
[18:19] <younes> How to Install ubuntu on a usb to boot from other pc's but with some applications installed on ti
[18:19] <younes> it*
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: ok, check the command ran in the .desktop file for the Dash icon, how is it different?
[18:20] <max456> youne: how are the two pc linked ?
[18:21] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure how to do what you asked me to do.
[18:22] <younes> no max
[18:22] <younes> i want to install it on a usb
[18:22] <younes> not live boot
[18:22] <HellTiger_> !usb
[18:22] <gregf_> ezra-s: you there
[18:22] <ezra-s> gregf_, beats me why apache2.4 in ubuntu still depends on mod_php
[18:23] <HellTiger_> younes: a presistent livecd on usb will save installed software and data
[18:23] <younes> Really :O
[18:23] <ezra-s> gregf_, you should use php-fpm instead mod_php
[18:23] <HellTiger_> yes
[18:23] <younes> okay thanks guys!
[18:23] <HellTiger_> but you are limited to 4gb
[18:23] <younes> np
[18:23] <gregf_> ezra-s: php-fpm?
[18:23] <HellTiger_> there is a work around for this
[18:23] <younes> i just want gimp
[18:23] <younes> ohh really how?
[18:23] <Joel> TJ-: still not showing up, still no email :\
[18:23] <younes> HellTiger_: how?
[18:24] <gregf_> ezra-s: is there a way ton install php-fpm ( i needed to install php 5.3.* )
[18:24] <ezra-s> gregf_, php fast process manager, php gets ran by a separate process, not the crappy/outdated/unreliable mod_php
[18:24] <TJ-> Joel: The correct (registered) email address is in the changelog sign-off line isn't it?
[18:25] <ezra-s> gregf_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=php5-fpm&searchon=names
[18:25] <TJ-> Joel: In the past I've had to wait an hour or more for the email
[18:25] <Joel> TJ-: ok
[18:25] <ezra-s> php5-fpm is called in ubuntu
[18:25] <HellTiger_> younes:
[18:26] <younes> yes?
[18:26] <HellTiger_> younes: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/
[18:26] <younes> HellTiger_: You are awsome!
[18:26] <HellTiger_> np :>
[18:26] <younes> thanks!
[18:26] <HellTiger_> dont forget to install inkscape XD
[18:26] <younes> ofcource ;p
[18:26] <gregf_> ezra-s: thanks, let me try that :(
[18:27] <ezra-s> gregf_, I hope I'm not confusing you, I just don't know why upgrading or trying to install that has messed your config file
[18:27] <younes> i'm running a ubuntu server atm with a lot of stuff but this i didn't know that a live cd will store everything
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: run:   nautilus /usr/share/applications
[18:28] <ezra-s> gregf_, basically you tried to install mod_php and all the problems started right?
[18:28] <gregf_> ezra-s: well yeah, started with php 5.3.*
[18:29] <younes> Okay saved the irc chat :P
[18:29] <younes> HellTiger_:?
[18:29] <younes> Do you prefer fat32 for a live usb?
[18:29] <gregf_> ezra-s: this is what i'd run(in order) : sudo apt-get -t precise install php5=5.3.10-1ubuntu3.9; sudo apt-get -t precise install -f libapache2-mod-php5=5.3.10-1ubuntu3.9 )
[18:30] <HellTiger_> i think you wont have a choice, the usb creator tools will do it automaticly
[18:30] <HellTiger_> there are some of them. just make sure the one you use can do presistent data
[18:30] <younes> Ohhh but i'm using one that doesn't format it ;)
[18:30] <HellTiger_> its a option while creating and you can change the size
[18:30] <HellTiger_> hm i bet there is a way for then
[18:30] <gregf_> ezra-s: should i try and uninstall all(apache, mysql, php) and restart from scratch please?
[18:31] <HellTiger_> younes: just try with http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[18:31] <gregf_> as i'm having to comment out module loading as thery're failing :(
[18:31] <HellTiger_> when it comes to filesystem, look to forums, i dont know it
[18:31] <ezra-s> gregf_, why do you use -t ? are you pinning or similar?
[18:31] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip:  Okay, so under the properties right click menu for deluge, the command field says deluge-gtk %U.  When I put the command in terminal, all I typed with deluge
[18:31] <countthestars185> *was
[18:31] <gregf_> ezra-s: yeah
[18:31] <gordonjcp> gregf_: warning - crazy behaviour detected
[18:32] <gregf_> else it picks up the latest version of php :(
[18:32] <gordonjcp> gregf_: why are you trying to install old, outdated versions?
[18:32] <younes> I'm using one that is called unetbootin is it good?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: then change the command in the file. you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/filename.desktop
[18:33] <Foor> Anyone know how to change the default action for executable files in thunar, it always wants to execute them but I want it to open them. im in xubuntu - Thanks
[18:33] <gregf_> gordonjcp: well i honestly would'nt if if i could :(
[18:33] <gordonjcp> gregf_: that doesn't answer the question
[18:33] <gregf_> yeah
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: I'd also report a bug
[18:34] <ezra-s> gregf_, maybe you have a mess of different versions
[18:34] <gregf_> gordonjcp: our project uses the zend framework with the PDO driver and we use stored procedures from the mysql side
[18:34] <Guest89872> hello, i'm thinking of trying xubuntu for the first time, but i've been reading(months ago) about the privacy intrusion between ubuntu and amazon(and other privacy related issues), is this threat in xubuntu?
[18:34] <younes> HellTiger_: i'm using Unetbootin is that okay?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Guest89872: it's not a threat in Ubuntu#
[18:34] <gregf_> not those mysql procs can only be called when using php5.3.x and none other :(
[18:34] <gregf_> s/not/now/
[18:34] <gordonjcp> gregf_: I suggest you sort that part out, then...
[18:34] <gregf_> ezra-s: well, i only have the one version
[18:35] <gregf_> gordonjcp: sort which part please :/
[18:35] <younes> Okay guys i need to go thanks for the help!
[18:35] <aryabayu> is there any different about between sources.list for ubuntu 64 with sources.list ubuntu i386?
[18:35] <gregf_> gordonjcp: all i am trying to do is get a version of php (5.3.*) installed which i have managed to
[18:35] <gordonjcp> gregf_: get the stored procedures working with a current version of PHP
[18:36] <Minnen> http://i.imgur.com/h6reFaq.jpg
[18:36] <gordonjcp> aryabayu: other than the repository they point to?
[18:36] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip: I will report a bug as well, normally the computer would have crashed by now, running it from the icon.  I'm surprised that its not crashing yet.
[18:36] <gregf_> gordonjcp: we've been told it does'nt work with the latest version of php :/
[18:37] <gordonjcp> gregf_: have you tried it?
[18:37] <gregf_> so we have to fall back to a later version. i know its something that needs to be resolved. but for now, this is the best we are able to do to get it working
[18:37] <aryabayu> i want to add local repository, i use ubuntu 64 and repository 64 too
[18:37] <gregf_> gordonjcp: yeah
[18:37] <gordonjcp> gregf_: what happens when you try?
[18:37] <gregor3005> hi, has anybody good results with photo-print under linux? i have a hp photosmart c5180 and the pictures are always to dark
[18:37] <gregf_> gordonjcp: i had php5.4.x installed. but when i try to login from the Frontend, it does not work
[18:38] <gregf_> gordonjcp: hence i was told i need to install php 5.3.x
[18:38] <gordonjcp> gregf_: maybe you should track down *why* it doesn't work
[18:38] <aryabayu> but when i use "sudo apt-get updated" , i got this "W: Failed to fetch file:/media/11/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/Packages  File not found"
[18:38] <gordonjcp> gregf_: if your car door lock sticks, the answer is not to leave the door open
[18:38] <gregf_> gordonjcp: comeon, i have'nt written php
[18:38] <aryabayu> sorry for my english XD
[18:39] <gregf_> gordonjcp: the main reason is the newest version of php(or the PDO driver for mysql) is not backwards compatible
[18:40] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip:  I changed the exec and tryexec lines to just from the output I posted earlier to just 'deluge'. closed, and re-ran the program, it seems to be working properly now.
[18:40] <gregf_> gordonjcp: that is like saying, you give me a hammer and expect me to chop a tree down :/
[18:40] <gordonjcp> gregf_: so, work out what's stopping it working and fix it
[18:41] <gregf_> gordonjcp: all i'm saying is how do i install php-fpm, as ezra-s has suggested. now, is that too difficult a question to answer rather than beating around the bush :/
[18:42] <ezra-s> gregf_; apt-get install php5-fpm, simple
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: then the package will need updating :)
[18:42] <gregf_> ezra-s: let me try that . thanks
[18:42] <Joel> TJ-: ended up getting emailed, thanks for the advice
[18:42] <gordonjcp> gregf_: sudo apt-get install php-fpm
[18:43] <countthestars185> ActionParsnip: so who should I report the bug to?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> countthestars185: run:  ubuntu-bug deluge   it will start the process for you
[18:46] <gregf_> ezra-s, gordonjcp: it doesn't work unfortunately :/
[18:46] <gregf_> E: Unable to locate package php-fpm
[18:49] <lilred> hey guys, Ubuntu's been pushing OpenStack, Juju, MAAS and Landscape
[18:49] <lilred> as a small scale DevOps I'm unsure what those things are and what their place is in the tech stack
[18:50] <lilred> pls respond :(
[18:52] <InsaneGene> hey everyone, Can anyone tell me why I can surf internet on windows fair quickly, but on ubuntu 12.04 I couldn't even google this problem because the browsing is too slow and sometimes when I request google the i get request time out or somthing a like, I know there might be a plenty of reasons but how would I inspect my problem
[18:53] <Gelos> Maybe bad DNS record?
[18:53] <ruth> how do i install my epson stylus printer on ubuntu
[18:54] <InsaneGene> Gelos, how can I make sure, when I pinged google DNS 8.8.8.8 I 've got the disination is not reachable
[18:54] <lilred> ruth: what's the model?
[18:54] <ruth> It is Epson Stylus NX625
[18:54] <ezra-s> gregf_, to use php-fpm you need some effort configuring
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> InsaneGene: can you ping your router's internal ip?
[18:55] <ezra-s> it's not install and go
[18:55] <InsaneGene> ActionParsnip, yes I could
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> InsaneGene: then the connection is down beyond your router, give it a reboot
[18:56] <lilred> ruth: I am investigating, give me a minute
[18:57] <ruth> Sure, thankyou
[18:57] <InsaneGene> ActionParsnip, What do you mean by "down beyond your router", I got both window and ubuntu installed on my machine, after I tried to surf internet using ubuntu and failed, I've restarted my laptop and conected to the same router from windows and it work great here
[19:00] <lilred> ruth: this page is where you should start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[19:01] <lilred> ruth: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/229872/how-do-i-add-a-network-printer-in-ubuntu-12-04
[19:03] <ruth>  Ok, thankyou. I will try those out. Bye for now
[19:03] <nut> hi yall how can i get the onboard keyboard to stop starting every time i boot up?
[19:06] <Noah_Budy> question - i want to create a folder on my desktop which contains games - if i go to the unity dash and search for games only 3 of the 15 i've installed are listed...
[19:11] <ffledgling> Hello, I need a little help, I need to install libpugixml on ubuntu 12.04, it's required by another software I need to "make".
[19:11] <ffledgling> But I haven't found it in the repos, I haven't found a dpkg and the source for the official website doesn't give me any make file, so I'm not sure how to get a .so out of it.
[19:12] <ffledgling> Can someone help me out?
[19:13] <genii> !info libpugixml-dev
[19:14] <genii> Hm.
[19:14] <ffledgling> Yes, only 13.10 and upwards I think.
[19:14] <kostkon> !info !info libpugixml-dev precise
[19:14] <kostkon> !info libpugixml-dev precise
[19:15] <genii> !info libpugixml-dev precise-backports
[19:15] <genii> Hm.
[19:16] <addicted> !info build-essential
[19:16] <addicted> !info build-essentials
[19:20] <ffledgling> ?
[19:22] <genii> ffledgling: Conceivably you could just get the actual source for it from http://pugixml.org/downloads/ and put it in the same place where you're compiling the main app from
[19:23] <ffledgling> genii, I did get the actual source, but I don't know how to get it integrated into the other piece of code.
[19:23] <sh0t> hi guys i am really having big problems with this installation of ubuntu. So in my laptop there was Windows 8. I burned an iso of ubuntu 13.10 and i installed it giving it half of the space. The problem is that i can't now boot ubuntu it directly boots windows 8. I disabled secure boot of UEFI but still it doesn't show the grub menu...
[19:23] <ffledgling> It's huge thing with a proper bunch of make files, using cmake and make
[19:24] <genii> ffledgling: What is the main app you are trying to build?
[19:24] <Wamphyri> with using filezilla/smartftp when i try to view a folder on my vps using pureftp as the server my connection times out, i have my firewall disabled on my desktop and dmz on my router set to my desktop ip as well, i have tried both active and passive mode with ports setup in pureftpd and with iptables, suggestions?
[19:24] <issues123> i have fallen in great tragedy! not able to login to gui desktop, each time i boot the 12.3 opensuse, it says me to enter the root password, and anfter doing so it just says to type "systemctl default" to try to get the default which i don't get, right now from soneone else's pc, please do let me know, what i do? i am new
[19:25] <ffledgling> genii, something called lsiviewer.
[19:25] <TJ-> sh0t: That sounds like a UEFI NVRAM issue; When the PC starts and you enter UEFI set-up, on the Boot menu, is there an "Ubuntu" or "Linux" or "GRUB" entry? It is possible that is missing
[19:25] <Dureiken> Hi there :) could someone help me to install ubuntu on USB key please ? I tried 10 without success. Thanks a lot
[19:27] <sh0t> TJ-, hi! I don't understand the question in the bios i disabled the secure boot option (there is no way to disable UEFI in general), Then I restart the pc and still grub doesn't appear but windows 8 is executed instead.
[19:27] <TJ-> Dureiken: You can install to a USB storage device exactly the same way you'd install to hard disk, just using a different target device and ensuring that it also installs GRUB to the USB device, not the hard disk
[19:27] <Dureiken> I did it
[19:27] <Dureiken> but grub is not correctly installed
[19:27] <Dureiken> I did repairgrub but same, initramfs error after boot
[19:28] <TJ-> sh0t: UEFI maintains a menu of boot options in its internal Non Volatile RAM. It sounds as if the entry that the Ubuntu installer tried to add there was rejected and is missing. Enter the UEFI set-up and examine the boot menu options... if you don't see an Ubuntu/Linux option that confirms my suggestion, and you'll need to manually add the entry.
[19:29] <Dureiken> coming back
[19:29] <TJ-> Dureiken: Do you mean it drops to a shell prompt during the initrd stage, or that the initrd fails to load?
[19:29] <Dureiken> fails to load
[19:29] <Dureiken> I have UEFI boot too
[19:29] <Dureiken> but I boot on USB no UEFI
[19:29] <Dureiken> could it come from that ?
[19:29] <TJ-> Dureiken: You can get the GRUB menu by holding down Shift?
[19:29] <Dureiken> yes
[19:30] <Dureiken> I can boot
[19:30] <Dureiken> modprobe : FATAL could not load /lib/modules/3.2.0-52-generic/modules.dep : no such file or directory
[19:30] <Dureiken> I come back
[19:30] <TJ-> Dureiken: OK ... and then, when you choose the Ubuntu option, do you see on-screen "Loading Linux.." followed by "Loading initrd..." ?
[19:30] <sh0t> TJ-, should I access the UEFI set-up from the bios or from Windows 8 (cause i think it's somehow possible...maybe i am wrong)...
[19:30] <TJ-> sh0t: From the UEFI firmware at boot-time
[19:31] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with partitioning a desktop which I plan to use for virtualbox
[19:31] <bkfitz> as in win7 on virtualbox on ubuntu
[19:31] <sh0t> TJ-, thanks
[19:31] <bkfitz> desktop has 2 ssds
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: when you boot, try editing the grub entry and remove quiet and splash from the linux boot command
[19:32] <ffledgling> genii, ideas?
[19:32] <ffledgling> Other than Upgrading to 13.10
[19:34] <genii> ffledgling: I would just try something like: make -L/path/to/source      for the source code you got
[19:35] <sh0t> TJ-, should have i downloaded a particualr version of Ubuntu and not the normal one?
[19:35] <ffledgling> genii, where -L/path/to/source is the path for the libpugixml code?
[19:35] <genii> ffledgling: Yes, exactly
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> bkfitz: how many virtual machines? what sizes virtual drives? what size ssds
[19:35] <ffledgling> Okay, let me try
[19:36] <TJ-> sh0t: No, you've installed from the correct media. The problem is - if the "Ubuntu" menu item is missing, is that you either started the install media in legacy BIOS mode, or, the UEFI firmware has a bug and didn't add the menu item when Ubuntu asked it to
[19:36] <Joel> TJ-: turns out I'm trying to package up something that uses ant to build, know of any tutorials that talk about changes to the rules file to do this?
[19:37] <TJ-> Joel: search the archive for packages that build-depend on ant
[19:37] <bkfitz> 2x256 ssds - 2-3 vms
[19:37] <Joel> TJ-: good idea, thanks.
[19:38] <bkfitz> hitsujiTMO, was thinking / and /boot on #1 and /home on #2 where I can keep the vmis, but then thought maybe the virtualbox software itself should be put on #2 as well???
[19:38] <bkfitz> hitsujiTMO, does it matter where the bins go?
[19:39] <hadifarnoud> it takes some time until SSH gives you a 'broken pipe' error when you lose connection. how can I change this timer?
[19:39] <bkfitz> hitsujiTMO, also i presume i use all ext4?
[19:39] <bkfitz> hitsujiTMO, what if I want to move data from one vm to other or to host linux os?  ntfs?
[19:40] <genii> ffledgling: If -L doesn't work, try -I    (uppercase i )
[19:40] <ffledgling> The difference?
[19:41] <genii> ffledgling: -L is for library paths to search, -I is just include
[19:41] <ffledgling> okay.
[19:41]  * ffledgling is not very familiar with make
[19:46] <Dureiken> back
[19:46] <Dureiken> trying to install from CDROM atm
[19:47] <bkfitz> hitsujiTMO, any thoughts?
[19:55] <kingfisher64> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the advice, I'm getting somewhere however going back into unity I have a few things broken. Shutdown/restart buttons don't work and there is no mouse on the login screen. Is there a way to effectively reset unity without losing private data and applications setup/installed.
[19:55] <Fevix> Possibly novice question here: How do I add icons to the desktop rather than just the pane on the left?
[19:55] <Tnk1> desperately need help to get my 12.10 root to mount manually from tty1 prompt
[19:56] <Tnk1> am on cell and lo battery and must get back into computer asap  please urgent
[19:57] <kingfisher64> there's a lot of info available on removing gnome 3.10 however the advice pretty much goes as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187693
[19:57] <kingfisher64> which is not solving the issues above
[19:57] <Tnk1> kingfisher64, hope you can help
[19:59] <Tnk1> kingfisher64, system froze doing work in chrome . had to hard reboot  . now system wont mount root and load to gui
[20:00] <Tnk1> anyone?
[20:00] <kingfisher64> I don't know enough to help you Tnk1. I've only been using ubuntu since Tuesday
[20:01] <Tnk1> who is very skilled in here?
[20:01] <daftykins> that's not really a support question
[20:01] <daftykins> ask a question (:
[20:02] <Tnk1> daftykins, see above
[20:02] <Tnk1> must mount from tty1  cant get to gui
[20:02] <daftykins> Tnk1: boot liveCD/USB and fsck?
[20:02] <Pessimist> Tnk1, boot from live cd and run: fsck /dev/something
[20:03] <Tnk1> one sec  will do
[20:04] <lAB> hi
[20:04] <Wamphyri> with using filezilla/smartftp when i try to view a folder on my vps using pureftp as the server my connection times out, i have my firewall disabled on my desktop and dmz on my router set to my desktop ip as well, i have tried both active and passive mode with ports setup in pureftpd and with iptables, suggestions?
[20:05] <lAB> hi
[20:05] <Pessimist> Tnk1, also don't do hard reboots: http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/ + you can enable the ctrl-alt-backspace combo to kill X if it freezes ;)
[20:05] <lAB> debina
[20:05] <TJ-> Wamphyri: "sudo tcpdump -nvi $IF tcp port ftp" at both ends and analyse the link for problems
[20:08] <tck9> anyone here use htscanner? when I set the htscanner.config_file to .htaccess1 it works fine, when I set it to .htaccess it doesn't (Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration)
[20:10] <Tnk1> Pessimist, i cant get a live cd here
[20:10] <Tnk1> im at tty1  . what can I do
[20:12] <Tnk1> Pessimist, actually i got live usb to work! what shall i do now
[20:12] <daftykins> Tnk1: you can't be at a TTY without root being mounted
[20:12] <daftykins> sounds a little suspect that
[20:13] <Tnk1> daftykins, im on live usb now  . cant get root to mount on system  . cant get to gui logon
[20:13] <daftykins> Tnk1: oh you're at a TTY of a live session? ok
[20:14] <Tnk1> opening gparted now on live usb. what next
[20:14] <daftykins> Tnk1: so "sudo fdisk -l" to see it report your hard disk and partitions, identify which /dev/sdax is your root, then "sudo fsck /dev/sdax" where x = root
[20:14] <Tnk1> no  . tty1 of unbooting sustem earlier
[20:14] <Dureiken> Tnk1 : is that the same making live usb key persistant with unetbootin and installing on usb key from live cd ? thanks
[20:14] <daftykins> so it has mounted something
[20:15] <Fevix> !ot
[20:15] <Tnk1> mounted only home partition. nothing else
[20:16] <Tnk1> all bash errors
[20:16] <Tnk1> now on live. running fdisk l.
[20:16] <daftykins> type "mount" by itself, you must have root to have gotten to a TTY
[20:16] <daftykins> ok :P
[20:19] <Tnk1> says root clean
[20:19] <Tnk1> no root mount  dropped me to tty1 bash
[20:19] <Tnk1> and bash all errors
[20:20] <LW_1978> hi
[20:20] <Dureiken> please help me :p
[20:20] <Dees_Troy> anyone able to help me troubleshoot my synaptics touchpad not using the synaptics drivers? Ubuntu 13.10 on a Dell XPS 12 9Q33 laptop
[20:20] <Dureiken> 11 times reinstalling
[20:20] <Pessimist> Dureiken, what's your question?
[20:20] <Dureiken> is that the same making live usb key persistant with unetbootin and installing on usb key from live cd ? thanks
[20:20] <Tnk1> Pessimist, daftykins fsck says root clean  ..
[20:21] <Dureiken> because I don't achieve to install ubuntu or xubuntu on my keys
[20:21] <Pessimist> Tnk1, it's impossible to drop to a shell if / isn't mounted.
[20:22] <Tnk1> Pessimist, then it mounted but was full of error
[20:22] <Tnk1> idk
[20:22] <daftykins> Tnk1: do the other partitions also
[20:22] <Tnk1> no gui login. all bash command errors
[20:22] <Tnk1> other partitions say errors
[20:22] <Tnk1> or wont mount
[20:22] <LW_1978> exit
[20:22] <k1l> Tnk1: failing harddisk?
[20:23] <k1l> Tnk1: see the logs what is happening there
[20:23] <Tnk1> no failing hd
[20:23] <Pessimist> Dureiken, no. In the first way you get a installation iso on a usb with a persistent storage but you can't change anything in the system, only save some files between reboots afaik. Also it isn't the full system, only a live session
[20:23] <Tnk1> it was merely a hard reboot which left it in bad state
[20:23] <Dureiken> Pessimist : ok thanks
[20:23] <k1l> Tnk1: give more precise details. just ranting doesnt get you more help.
[20:24] <Dureiken> Perssimist : I have problems with grub install at the end of install process, with ubuntu 12.04 and 13.10
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> Tnk1: are you on a live cd now?
[20:24] <Dureiken> trying once more but from a dvd not another usb key
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: when you boot, try editing the grub entry and remove quiet and splash from the linux boot command
[20:24] <Dureiken> I've no access at all, black screen
[20:25] <Dureiken> so I used a live cd to grub repair, and after I had modprobe error
[20:25] <Tnk1> hitsujiTMO, yes
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: this should give you a more verbose screen.     we're you not able to get to grub earlier?
[20:25] <Dureiken> modprobe : FATAL could not load /lib/modules/3.2.0-52-generic/modules.dep : no such file or directory
[20:26] <Pessimist> Dureiken, what error? You can try checking md5 of your downloaded iso, writing to a another medium and trying the same all over again won't help you
[20:26] <Dureiken> Pessimist : doing from another media right now
[20:26] <TJ-> Dureiken: If modules.dep hasn't been created, you need to regenerate it
[20:26] <Tnk1> k1l no rant. on cell. far from town. battery low. must get system to boot. what details do you want?
[20:26] <Dureiken> I will tell you in some minuts
[20:26] <TJ-> Dureiken: "sudo depmod"
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> Tnk1: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[20:27] <k1l> Tnk1: logs like dmesg or syslog in a pastebin.
[20:28] <Dureiken> TJ : I have no terminal, just a console initramfs
[20:28] <TJ-> Dureiken: Can you mount the real rootfs and pivot into it?
[20:29] <Dureiken> TJ : I think I'm too newbie to do that :) btw I am reinstalling so I can't do anything atm.
[20:29] <Dureiken> Step : configuring boot loader, hope it will work !
[20:29] <TJ-> Dureiken: agreed, and probably easier :)
[20:30] <Dureiken> TJ : I reinstalled maybe 10 times sice yesterday
[20:30] <tnk> hi tnk1 again, sorry got booted from cell.. have live usb chat working now
[20:30] <tnk> will pastebin of fdisk now
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Tnk: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[20:30] <TJ-> Dureiken: hmmm, that sounds like something is going wrong... how many storage devices are attached (hard disks, USBs, CDs, MMCs, etc.) ?
[20:31] <tnk> http://pastebin.com/MTJjCF92
[20:31] <Dureiken> 2 USB keys : one live and one install
[20:31] <TJ-> Dureiken: Are you installing from the Live ISO? If so, don't reboot immediately, and we can check the install looks OK
[20:31] <Dureiken> yes I am
[20:31] <Dureiken> grub seems OK
[20:31] <hydruid> Dureiken: what happens when you reboot after the live install?
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: thats not the full output. can you try again please
[20:32] <TJ-> Dureiken: Are you ensuring both USBs are being 'safely unmounted' before reboot? it sounds like you might be getting file-system corruption due to delayed writes
[20:32] <Dureiken> TJ : dunno
[20:32] <Pessimist> tnk, dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: to make it easier: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:33] <TJ-> Dureiken: The live environment should have the option to safely unmount USB devices, either in the taskbar or using the file manager
[20:33] <Dureiken> I have to unmount the key I'm installing on ?
[20:33] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, how do I use that command once installed
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:33] <k1l> tnk: "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[20:34] <k1l> tnk: same for "dmesg | pastebinit" and "pastbinit /var/log/syslog"
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> that | character pipes the output of the command to the pastebinit command
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> k1l: hes on the live cd atm
[20:34] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, says pastebin api disabled
[20:35] <k1l> hitsujiTMO: but that will show errors in harddisks too
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> k1l: ahh sorry, you're right
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <k1l> or other problems that the system got. actually we just now: something is bad
[20:35] <TJ-> Dureiken: once you've completed the install yes, it would be a good idea... that ensure all data has been flushed to the device before it is removed
[20:35] <Dureiken> rebooting :)
[20:35] <Dureiken> crossfingers
[20:36] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810444/
[20:36] <Joel> building a package that uses ant to build a war file -fml
[20:36] <TJ-> Joel: sounds like packaging hell :)
[20:37] <Joel> TJ-: yeah, at this point I'm going to guess the javahelper isn't finding my build.xml, but I have no idea how to verify that.
[20:37] <Joel> I keep coming up with an empty binary packae
[20:37] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810444/
[20:37] <TJ-> Joel: Have you created a debian/$PACKAGE.install ?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: whick drive has the broken ubuntu?
[20:38] <Joel> TJ-: I had it just as "install" - re-naming didn't make a difference.
[20:38] <tnk> sdb ?
[20:38] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, SDb?
[20:38] <TJ-> Joel: As I recall, each binary package name needs an associated <binary-package-name>.install
[20:39] <Joel> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/6595b4cb9c290a0003b0
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb5 /mnt/sdb6 /mnt/sdb7 /mnt/sdb8
[20:40] <Joel> I would expect to see ant anything in that output, honestly.
[20:40] <TJ-> Joel: Here's the policy on it http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: dmesg | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /var/log/syslog
[20:41] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810470/
[20:41] <TJ-> Joel yes, I think you're missing something key to building!
[20:41] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810473/
[20:42] <Joel> TJ-: yup, pretty sure it's not finding my build.xml which is burried in the source tarball src\installer\resources\build.xml
[20:42] <Joel> trying to figure out how to tell it where it's hidden
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sda has errors
[20:42] <tnk> ok
[20:42] <Joel> DEB_ANT_BUILDFILE  might do it
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[20:44] <k1l> yep, sda doesnt look good.
[20:44] <Dureiken> it seems to work I'm on ubuntu
[20:44] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, wron g type, error, etc.
[20:44] <Dureiken> BTW do you recommand 12.04 or 13.10 for stability ?
[20:44] <tnk> k1l, wrong type, error etc. from that last command
[20:44] <Dureiken> it's for a kind of server
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: you can say goodbye to whatever was on sda then
[20:44] <tnk> it was just boot, i believe
[20:44] <tnk> or var or something
[20:44] <helheim_> Dureiken, in that case id go for debian
[20:45] <tnk> root and home were on another partition, i believe
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: 500gb for boot or var?
[20:45] <Dureiken> tnk : it's for a mining rig
[20:45] <vanishing> cd
[20:45] <tnk> it was ext 3, too, not ext 2
[20:45] <tnk> i don't remember exactly
[20:46] <tnk> k1l, i'm sure there is a way to get into the comp.. the data is all still there.. it was just a hard reboot..
[20:46] <k1l> tnk: put the cables off that disk. that disk is spamming the system with errors
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ok, lets see what the rest of the drivers were: sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/sdb5
[20:47] <tnk> sda does spam errors, but works fine
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sda doesnt work fine. you cant even mount it
[20:47] <tnk> k1l, sdb5 mounted
[20:47] <tnk> ok, ignore sda for now, it must be a media drive
[20:48] <k1l> tnk: i think you have no clue about that system :/
[20:48] <tnk> k1l, correct
[20:48] <tnk> just trying to get it to log on
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt/sdb6 && sudo mount /dev/sdb7 /mnt/sdb7 && sudo mount /dev/sdb8 /mnt/sdb8
[20:48] <tnk> all mounted. no error ther.e
[20:50] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, k1l : all mounted. no error there
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ls -la /mnt/sdb[5678] | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:50] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810535/
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sdb5 is /    sdb6 is /var
[20:52] <tnk> k
[20:52] <lAB> HELP ME
[20:52] <leeping> Hi there, one of my files is linked to the wrong .so file, despite my LD_LIBRARY_PATH .  I'm not sure how else to say it - how do I get my file to link to the correct .so file?
[20:53] <lAB> help about openvpn?
[20:53] <leeping> It is linking to libxml2.so.2 in /usr/lib instead of my local one, /home/leeping/local/lib
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /mnt/sdb5/etc/fstab
[20:53] <k1l> !details | lAB
[20:53] <Intensity> Hi. I'm having great difficulty determining whether addr2line/catchsegv are really working as intended (printing line numbers).  I compile a program with gcc -g3, trigger a SEGV, and then I see a backtrace.  However, I don't see line nubmers, and manually running addr2line gives ??'s.  Is there something I'm missing?  I've tried on Ubuntu 12 amd64 as well as Debian.
[20:53] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810546/
[20:54] <dmikalova> Anyone know if Ubuntu JeOS is covered by LTS? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
[20:54] <k1l> dmikalova: jeos is deprecated, iirc
[20:54] <lAB> ok
[20:55] <dmikalova> k1l: is there any equivalent thing to JeOS?
[20:55] <k1l> dmikalova: i think its included in the server isntall
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo blkid | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810553/
[20:56] <bekks> dmikalova: VirtualBox, and various frontends to kvm can be installed.
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> dmikalova: server minimal or a debootstrap install
[20:56] <k1l> tnk: like i said before. cable of the sda disk. its spamming the system
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> dmikalova: or a minimal install from mini.iso
[20:57] <k1l> tnk: after that you will be booting just fine (maybe need to skip mmount of sda on boot)
[20:57] <tnk> k1l, it's always spamming the system. it never stopped anything before. that's not the problem. sda5 is just a media hd which can be ignored.
[20:57] <k1l> tnk: it is the problem
[20:57] <EminentDomain> ok.. i'm having issues with installing virtualbox in ubuntu 12.04
[20:57] <k1l> tnk: again: cable that off
[20:57] <dmikalova> This page https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html implies that a minimal install has minimal packages, but a JeOS install also has kernel optimizations
[20:57] <tnk> I can't open the comp - how do I just note it not to load?
[20:58] <k1l> tnk: sda ist the meida disk. there is no sda5. you are talking about partitions. i talk about disks
[20:58] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, do you have alternative idea/solution? the sdb is the root and the var
[20:58] <k1l> *sigh*
[20:58] <EminentDomain> i get to this step:  root@ns4009334:~# wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbo                                                                                            x.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[20:58] <EminentDomain> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sda is being unused and does need to be removed.
[20:59] <jhutchins> !virtualbox
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: *not being used
[20:59] <jhutchins> EminentDomain: We can only support it as installed from the Ubuntu repositories.
[20:59] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, if sdb is root, how can i get root to mount so i can login to system via gui?
[20:59] <k1l> dmikalova: did you read the wiki page you listed? "its included as minimal install into the server iso"
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: where exactly is the failure happening?
[21:00] <EminentDomain> jhutchins: oh is it in the Repos?
[21:00] <mobiesoba> Yay
[21:00] <EminentDomain> if so what do I do to install it
[21:01] <EminentDomain> apt-get install VirtualBox-4.3 doesnt work
[21:01] <dmikalova> k1l: I'm not seeing your quote, but I did read "While installing from the Server Edition ISO (pressing F4 on the first screen will allow you to pick "Minimal installation", which is the package selection equivalent to JeOS)." and after that "JeOS is a specialized installation of Ubuntu Server Edition with a tuned kernel"
[21:01] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, in boot process, ubuntu is selected, some lines of checks run, and then says can't mount / filesystem, and drops me to tty1 bash.. where i can login nominally to /home and then every command produces error saying can't find sbin env or bash
[21:01] <EminentDomain> i'm also trying to get the phpvirtualbox webmin page
[21:02] <jhutchins> EminentDomain: apt-get install virtualbox - what could be simpler?
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ok. shut down. remove the cable for sda. boot up again and see if you get the same issue. Not seeing any immediate reason for a boot and those errors are drowning out the dmesg so its difficult to sift thru to find the cause
[21:03] <k1l> dmikalova: again: it was a single install iso and is (since 8.10) included into the minimal install
[21:04] <k1l> dmikalova: like: they tuned the minimal install so that jeos is no more needed
[21:04] <EminentDomain> jhutchins: thanks; I have no clue why every single howto i've found is telling me to install it from the other repo
[21:04] <k1l> dmikalova: dont hang yourself because someone said "tuned" there.
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: if sda has a bootstrap it could be pointing to the wrong place
[21:05] <dmikalova> k1l: Thanks, that's what I was looking for. If I'm looking for an optimized kernel I don't want to just assume that they didn't mean what they said.
[21:06] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, sda has the boot partition which does point to the root partition
[21:06] <tnk> i see that in the gparted of sda1
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> dmikalova: there is no optimised virtual kernel anymore. you'd need to build you're own
[21:07] <dmikalova> hitsujiTMO: in which case, I would use vmbuilder, right? Is that going to be in 14.04 and if I build my own will that be covered by LTS?
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: according to your fstab you don't have a seperate boot. that could be an old boot
[21:09] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, ok, if it's an old boot, is the new boot just a part of the root on sdb?
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> dmikalova: no thats not going to build a kernel. you'd have to configure the kernel yourself, either from linux-source or from kernel.org
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: yes
[21:10] <average> stijnvbrande: hey
[21:10] <dmikalova> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, and is building a kernel supported by LTS?
[21:10] <average> ananana: hey
[21:10] <average> ananana: hello
[21:10] <average> ananana: what's up ?
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> dmikalova: using a non repo kernel is not supported
[21:10] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, if new boot and root are all on sdb.. can i just block sda from mounting in fstab and then reboot and see if everything logs in? should that fix?
[21:11] <k1l> tnk: you can comment the sda line in fstab. that will prevent the mounting. but i doubt that this will make the system boot when the errors are still spamming
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: no. you still need to remove sda. can you run: sudo parted -l | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:12] <streulma> over 3 days the 13.04 soap is over
[21:12] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, as soon as gparted finishes its check and fix of sda
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: gparted cant fix physical errors
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: the hdd is no more. not fixable
[21:13] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, that's fine. it's just a media folder.
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: can you run: sudo parted -l | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:15] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810659/
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sda is only flagged as boot, its not the actually boot. but it could be interfereng with the boot process if it has a bootstrap install. it could be trying to boot to /dev/sda then /dev/sdb is the OS you want
[21:17] <tnk> so, shouldn't i be able to fix and point directly with grub somehow?
[21:19] <tnk> hitsujiTMO,  so, shouldn't i be able to fix and point directly with grub somehow?
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: no. sda is showing up to the bios before sdb. if anything you'd have to modify the bios to ensure the hdd boot order is correct
[21:19] <tnk> ok, i will do that
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: but you still should remove sda
[21:20] <tnk> which is the name of sda -- wdc something?
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: WDC WD5000AAKS
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> its a western digital 500gb hdd
[21:21] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, brb. will try.. rebooting now
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> k1l: i wonder if he actually will remove it
[21:21] <k1l> i doubt :/
[21:24] <Bama> Guys I got a question about gparted. I have ubuntu installed and want to extend the drive but the extra space is "In front" of the partition. Does the" Copy" do a full copy of it? Like I chose to "Copy" sda5 to sda.
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> Bama: you can move the partition down(may take a while tho)
[21:25] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, I thought that. But I didn't see an option to do that.
[21:26] <fcampo> hello
[21:27] <Sarcasshole> G'day all
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> bama, drag the partition down. you may need to drag down the extended partition first
[21:27] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, I will try this now. Thank you. I will post results
[21:28] <fcampo> i'm try'n to start with this
[21:28] <alazyworkaholic> Fast user account switching fails very often to an unresponsive black screen & flashing cursor. How can I figure out what the problem is?
[21:28] <Sarcasshole> wow, so this is a support channel? Know how to change to a regular chatroom anyone?
[21:29] <WebbyIT> When I try to start valgrind from ubuntu-sdk I have this error: Error: "/usr/bin/valgrind" could not be started: No private key file given.
[21:29] <WebbyIT> What can I do?
[21:29] <k1l> !ot | Sarcasshole
[21:30] <Sarcasshole> IThanks ubottu. Ive never used irc before. This is all new. Im a quick study though. How do I change to the other room you mentioned
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> Sarcasshole: /join #channel
[21:31] <k1l> Sarcasshole: type "/join #channelname"
[21:31] <Sarcasshole> Awesome Kil. Any recommendations?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | Sarcasshole
[21:31] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, I don't seem to have an ability to drag any partition (I'm using gparted)
[21:32] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, rebooted.. same result.. just hangs when I select the ubuntu from the boot menu
[21:32] <Sarcasshole> Ok thanks guys. Hope your day rocks everyone.
[21:32] <k1l> tnk: you remember what i said?
[21:32] <tnk> i am thinking this should be fixed by grub resetting or refreshing something?
[21:32] <tnk> k1l, i can't get to the actual hd in the machine
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Bama: are you running on the partition you want to move?
[21:33] <tnk> k1l, i disabled the hd sda in bios. it's just a media hd. it's never caused this issue before. the issue was only caused when i did a hard reboot 45 min ago from a frozen chrome screen..
[21:33] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, No Sir, I'm on live boot of Partition Magic. To keep from having an issues of access.
[21:33] <tnk> that sda is never used. it gives ane rror. asks to continue or go to setup, and you click continue, and it's never heard from again.
[21:33] <alazyworkaholic> Switching accounts fails most of the time in 13.10. What can I do to find the problem?
[21:33] <k1l> tnk: can you show the dmesg again?
[21:34] <tnk>  k1l what's the dmesg command you want pastebin
[21:34] <k1l> tnk: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: dmesg | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com && pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /var/log/syslog
[21:35] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, This might sound crazy. But must ask. If i was to copy sda5 to sda4. Then Delete sda5 and extend sda4 to take the space (which is what I want). Could I rename sda4 to sda5?
[21:35] <Bama> Liek does taht sound liek it might work?
[21:35] <tnk> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810739/
[21:35] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810740/
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: lsblk | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:35] <Sarcasshole> "/msg alis help list"
[21:36] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, no command lsblk
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Bama: you can't "name" it. and the partitions go by UUID
[21:36] <honeybuntu> after fresh install i reboot to a msg on black screen on route to booting to ubuntu 12.04 desktop (msg. is entitled: "broken pipe cannot write bytes"). I've never received such msg. before while testing boot & ubuntu 12.04 LTS distro. Is any1 here know what this msg. pertains to - is it a network error?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo blkid | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:37] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, So the sda4 and sda5 isn't a name it is what UUID it is?
[21:37] <tnk>  hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810751/
[21:38] <rustuptwist1> will a machine running karmic koala be updated to the current version of Ubuntu if one uses the update software via the Ubuntu desktop?
[21:38] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810751/
[21:38] <k1l> rustuptwist1: karmic is 9.10. that is way old. best is to make a clean new install
[21:39] <k1l> rustuptwist1: updating will need to update to 10.04, then 12.04. in that time you have installed several times :)
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb5 /mnt/sdb6 /mnt/sdb7 /mnt/sdb8
[21:39] <tnk> hitsujiTMO,  done
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/sdb5
[21:40] <tnk> done
[21:41] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, btw, it should be noted that the /usr partition is in the sdc drive
[21:41] <tnk> under "newusr" i believe
[21:41] <rustuptwist1> k1l:  so it wont happen auto matic if I understand you correctly or are you saying just faster to do it manually?
[21:41] <tnk> (had run out of space and had to move i tthere)
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdb7 /mnt/sdb5/tmp
[21:41] <tnk>  hitsujiTMO done
[21:42] <k1l> rustuptwist1: since 9.10 is way out of support and the servers for that are shut down for long time now, you need to do some changes to make it update.
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdb8 /mnt/sdb5/home
[21:42] <tnk> done
[21:42] <Bama> hitsujiTMO, I want to thank you for your help. It was appreciated. I must reboot in a minute to check something.  If not working I may come back and ask for more help if that is ok.
[21:42] <k1l> rustuptwist1: and besides that you need to make some mid-term updates to get to a actually supported ubuntu version. so new install is way more efficient
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt/sdb5/var
[21:43] <tnk> done
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt/sdb5/usr
[21:44] <tnk> done
[21:44] <rustuptwist1> k1l:  tried using 12.04.03 on two laptops. didnt want to waste anymore good dvds on 700+ mb of space so I thought i would use an older and burn to a CD…
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /mnt/sdb5/var/log/dmesg
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /mnt/sdb5/var/log/syslog
[21:45] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810799/
[21:45] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810800/
[21:46] <k1l> rustuptwist1: just use usb sticks.
[21:46] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, pasted above
[21:46] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810799/
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810800/
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: what timezone are you in?
[21:50] <rustuptwist1> k1l:  that didnt work either. on the compaq kept rebooting, saying it was going to instal then just reboot back into windows.
[21:50] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, est
[21:51] <mtu> hiyas. anybody know if a user-callback script for Back In Time can interrupt the snapshot process somehow?
[21:52] <glitsj16> rustuptwist1: you might need to change boot order in the compaq's BIOS to ensure USB device booting is enabled, sounds like it just skips into regular boot from HDD
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/sdb5/dev
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sdb5/sys
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/sdb5/dev/pts
[21:53] <tnk> done
[21:53] <tnk> don e
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/sdb5/proc
[21:53] <tnk> done
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo chroot /mnt/sdb5
[21:54] <tnk> done
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: apt-get install pastebinit
[21:54] <rustuptwist1> glitsj16: yeah we did that but it still kept doing that. It was weird. thinking about doing the CL install but not sure how to do the dual install alongside win7. dont want to accidentally delete win7 partition
[21:55] <tnk> pastebinit already installed
[21:55] <smrtz|nix> Hey, I'm trying to run a script on my raspberry Pi, but I'm getting permission errors.  The script developers don't konw what's wrong, and since I'm running raspbian, and I tried in #debian, and #raspberrypi, but noone helped.  Can I please ask here?
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: update-grub
[21:55] <Pici> smrtz|nix: no. Ubuntu doesn't run on the raspi, try ##linux or a channel for whatever language the script is in.
[21:56] <smrtz|nix> Pici: Thanks.
[21:56] <smrtz|nix> join ##linux
[21:56] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, found a few images.. then cannot find list of partitions.. try mounting sys
[21:56] <tele-shrink> hi how to use windows boot menu to chain load ubunto?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> tnk sys should be mounted: mount | pastebinit
[21:57] <tnk> errors in pastebinit command
[21:57] <rustuptwist1> brb
[21:57] <tele-shrink> hi how to use windows boot menu to chain load ubunto? And by pass UEFI Conundrum
[21:57] <tnk> ioerror name or service not known for sock-stream
[21:57] <tnk> am I not connected to internet from within the chroot pastebinit?
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> tnk sys should be mounted: mount | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:58] <tnk> socket error again
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: exit
[21:58] <tnk> done
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> tnk mount | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <glitsj16> rustuptwist1: odd indeed, so you're kind off stuck .. did you try the minimal iso yet?
[21:59] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810855/
[21:59] <tnk> hitsujiTMO,
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> tbk: sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sdb5/sys
[22:00] <tnk> done
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo chroot /mnt/sdb5
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: update-grub
[22:01] <kingfisher64> i tried installing gnome 3.10 (not realizing it would cause issues). Uninstalled that however I think there's some issues as a result in unity. How do I get the system back into a near default state without losing programs installed and files uploaded
[22:01] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, it's running..
[22:02] <kingfisher64> i've been googling for a couple of hours now resetting unity etc
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: still running?
[22:02] <tnk> yes
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: shouldn't take that long
[22:02] <tnk> found four images and now found memtest..
[22:02] <tnk> shall i ctrl c?
[22:02] <kingfisher64> just not sure what files have been altered/messed with. Eg, going settings displays a malformed looking dialog
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: copy the output and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:03] <DF3D2> how long should grub-install command take? seems to be taking awhile
[22:04] <kingfisher64> virtually everything appears to be working fine but I'm suspicious it's broken something to i'd like to reinstall unity if possible
[22:04] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810874/ then I hit ctrl c too
[22:04] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, ctrl c won't stop it though
[22:05] <tnk> still doing grep
[22:05] <Guido1> I'm using Lightning to manage my agendas, but the lcal time and the time of events in Lightning and on the google calender (syncronized) differ one hour (19.00 at Lightning, 20.00 at google). What can i do?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:06] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, had to close terminal to stop the update-grub command.. do i have to reset all the mounts/
[22:06] <tnk>  pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg produces unable to read form
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo chroot /mnt/sdb5
[22:06] <tnk> done
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:07] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, socket error
[22:07] <kingfisher64> thank you for your advice earlier on hitsujiTMO. I got things working back. Tried installing gnome from software centre but it's altered boot screen despite saying in the center it's not installe?
[22:07] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, there's no internet connection in the chroot, right? just in the liveusb?
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: exit
[22:07] <leonoc> guys I have a problem ubuntu 13.10 sometimes I get stuck and nothing works alt + f2 to use xkill. any key that you can not give me desbloquiar the reset button
[22:07] <tnk> done
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> tnk pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com /mnt/sdb5/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:08] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810892/
[22:08] <k1l> tnk: in chroot you need "sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf " before to have internet
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: np. what package exactly did you try to install?
[22:09] <tnk> k1l, mount point doesn'te xist
[22:09] <kingfisher64> "Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components" hitsujiTMO
[22:09] <[CaBeTuX]> Hi guys!
[22:09] <[CaBeTuX]> One question... I need disable "the context" of auditd
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ls -l /mnt/sdb5/boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:10] <kingfisher64> i thought since I'd made a mistake adding gnome the unsupported way i'd try doing it the correct way. purge worked nice hitsujiTMO. I'd say 99% of things are working
[22:10] <[CaBeTuX]> in Suse Linux its is possible setting - AUDITD_DISABLE_CONTEXTS="yes"
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: date | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:11] <leonoc> some ubuntu forum in Spanish that my English is very basic
[22:11] <[CaBeTuX]> in /etc/sysconfig/auditd
[22:11] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810900/
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> !es | leonoc
[22:11] <tnk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6810902/
[22:12] <kingfisher64> when you type "gnome" in the software center search it's the 1st package that returns hitsujiTMO
[22:12] <orion> Hi. An upgrade was interrupted here: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic <-- and now apt-get upgrade isn't resuming it. How do I get it to resume?
[22:12] <holmser> So, I was editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config in vim.  I did a :wq, and then a sudo service sshd restart
[22:12] <leonoc> ubottu thank you very much
[22:13] <holmser> now it is telling me that permission is denied to /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:13] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, pasted
[22:13] <Dureiken> tnk : I achieved to install ubuntu finally :) thanks
[22:13] <holmser> even as root
[22:13] <[CaBeTuX]> so... I need disable a "context" in auditd in ubuntu 13
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ok. it seems to have generated a valid grub. try boot it and give us the exact error after.
[22:13] <holmser> anyone have any insight into this?
[22:13] <[CaBeTuX]> any idea?
[22:13] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, shall i somehow install the grub again? or ensure boot is pointing properly? that bios will look to right drive and partition first?
[22:13] <holmser> how am I being denied access to a file as root?
[22:14] <tnk> exact error last time was possible root / mount options incorrect.. including relatime
[22:14] <Guido1> I'm using Lightning to manage my agendas, but the lcal time and the time of events in Lightning and on the google calender (syncronized) differ one hour (19.00 at Lightning, 20.00 at google). What can i do?
[22:14] <tnk> signal 32
[22:14] <kingfisher64> I ticked KDE plasma desktop sub menu option (kde standard) and I think i'm getting a boot that is kde related. I think kde is installed despite the software center saying the gnome main package isn't
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: ahh, thought they were wrong alright
[22:14] <Dureiken> tnk : can I deactivate ext4 on all my partitions ? thanks
[22:14] <glitsj16> orion: make a new one might be the safest option before rebooting --> sudo update-initramfs -c -k 3.5.0-17-generic
[22:15] <tnk> tnk, no clue.. ask someone else.. i'm seeking help at moment
[22:15] <tnk> Dureiken,
[22:16] <orion> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-virtual
[22:16] <ruth> Guys, I have Ubuntu One. It said if I share my link with someone who wants to join, we both get extra storage room. But the referral address sends my friend right back to my site. How do we do this?
[22:16] <orion> Is that bad? ^
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: sudo sed -i 's/errors=relatime,remount-ro,user_xattr/errors=remount-ro/' /mnt/sdb5/etc/fstab
[22:16] <tnk> done
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: reboot
[22:17] <tnk> ok.. be right back.. will see what happens
[22:18] <glitsj16> orion: did you get that trying the update-initramfs command?
[22:19] <leonoc> ubottu but where I write ubuntu.es join # chatting forgive ignorance
[22:19] <DF3D2> can someone please help me I cant seem to get grub installed on this usb stick
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> leonoc: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:19] <DF3D2> well, it's installed but it says can't find device: xxxxxxx but I edited /etc/fstab with the correct device
[22:20] <DF3D2> so im not sure what is going on
[22:20] <orion> glitsj16: yes
[22:20] <SlidingHorn> It's been so long since I've been here...completely forgot about ubottu
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> ruth: that appears to be normal. they should have an altered url with a token followed by /+decide
[22:21] <SlidingHorn> It's been so long since I've been here...completely forgot about ubottu
[22:21] <SlidingHorn> oops...didn't mean to double post
[22:21] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, SUCCESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: where exactly does it say that? do you get dropped to initramfs/busybox?
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | tnk
[22:21] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, thank you so much - was it just running the update-grub command from within the chroot that needed to fix?
[22:21] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, im in grub rescue
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: and you needed to fix fstab too
[22:22] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, i dont even know where it is getting that uuid from
[22:22] <mjmac_> Is this the ubuntu help channel?
[22:22] <tnk> what was the fstab fix? removing relatime references?
[22:22] <tnk> and removing the sda pointer?
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: can you boot to the desktop live cd please
[22:22] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, I could -- i'm trying to make my own usb bootable with a copied over ubuntu install for another machine
[22:23] <HellTiger_> how will i install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer on a wlan only device?
[22:23] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, I have a laptop I can put the drive in, what do you want me to do ?
[22:23] <glitsj16> orion: the package is part of a set of meta-packages for virtual appliances, don't have any experience with those so i'm not clear on what to advise .. did it produce a new initrd.img ?
[22:23] <tnk> hitsujiTMO, were the fstab fixes removing relatime and removing a pointer to sda?
[22:23] <kingfisher64> I guess all i need is a way to reset unity's desktop windows back to it's default state, but keep all my files and programs installed
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: does the usb boot on another computer?
[22:24] <Daekdroom> !uefi
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> tnk: yessum
[22:24] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, I think I need to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg with the new uuid
[22:24] <DF3D2> lets try that
[22:25] <kingfisher64> can anyone advise me on how to restore it's default state for just he default packages that come with ununtu?
[22:25] <kingfisher64> i've googled for hours different solutions trying one after another
[22:25] <ruth> Ubuntu One is not showing anyway to make that work, hitsujiTMO. We put "/+decide behind the referral url and it doesn't work.
[22:25] <glitsj16> orion: can you pastebin output of .. sudo apt-get install linux-image-virtual .. so we can check what's going on?
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: no. it could be that you have a host that requires ohci_pci that isn't present in initramfs
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> ruth: what is the url that your friend gets redirected to
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: will that usb boot ok in another pc?
[22:27] <ruth> thank you   we are figuring it out
[22:27] <Leuven76> hello, i'm from Belgium, what does ubuntu means?
[22:28] <k1l> !ubuntu | Leuven76
[22:28] <Leuven76> thnx
[22:28] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, the issue is it's looking for a wrong UUID and I changed it in grub.cfg and it's still looking for it some how
[22:29] <TJ-> Leuven76: it is a Zulu word.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP_gj_rHweI
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: hace you got that usb in a machine with a running copy of ubuntu in it now?
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> have*
[22:30] <DF3D2> yes
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: pastebin the output of: sudo blkid
[22:31] <doctor_dennis> has anyone noticed that if you alt-F4 out of a full-screen flash application that was opened from a browser, you can then alt-F4 and close the browser without having to select it? In Windows, you have to select the browser, then you can close it.
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: also pastebin the boot/grub/grub.cfg on that usb
[22:31] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/9Y062AyJ
[22:31] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811001/
[22:32] <DF3D2> its looking for the uuid of my / on this drive instead of the USB one but I dont see it referenced in grub.cfg on the usb....
[22:33] <mjmac_> is the u supposed to be there?
[22:33] <TJ-> DF3D2: In grub.cfg "root=UUID=bd841473-bda6-4353-b0bb-434fcf5e176b" whereas "/dev/sdb1: LABEL="LUBUNTU 13.10" UUID="b3c37fa1-dd06-4573-afca-ca59b5f5c2c9" TYPE="ext4" "
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: what is the full path to that grub.cfg?
[22:34] <DF3D2> TJ-, on which line ?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: on many lines
[22:34] <TJ-> DF3D2: all over
[22:34] <DF3D2> k
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: what is the full path to that grub.cfg? i'll give you a command then to change all instances of it
[22:35] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:35] <TJ-> DF3D2: From a chroot, you need to redo "grub-install /dev/sdX" to ensure the device-map is correct, and then "update-grub" to have it correct the config
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo sed -i 's/bd841473-bda6-4353-b0bb-434fcf5e176b/b3c37fa1-dd06-4573-afca-ca59b5f5c2c9/g' /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:36] <DF3D2> TJ-, i tried change root on the live-cd it didnt seem to work
[22:37] <DF3D2> same error.... hitsujiTMO
[22:37] <DF3D2> wants the wrong uuid on boot
[22:37] <DF3D2> error: no such device: 8900-xxx-x-x-x-x
[22:37] <DF3D2> TJ-, can u tell me exactly what to do for the chroot ?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount --bind /dev /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/dev
[22:39] <TJ-> DF3D2: I can, but I'm not clear right now which device you want to fix, sdb (LUBUNTU) or sda (unknown)
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/dev/pts
[22:39] <DF3D2> TJ-, the usb drive sdb
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount --bind /sys /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/sys
[22:39] <DF3D2> need it to be bootable
[22:39] <TJ-> DF3D2: follow hitsujiTMO's instructions
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount -t proc none /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/proc
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo chroot /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10
[22:40] <DF3D2> bash: /dev/null: Permission denied
[22:40] <DF3D2> bash: /dev/null: Permission denied
[22:40] <DF3D2> on the chroot command
[22:40] <DF3D2> is that ok ?
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: exit
[22:41] <DF3D2> k
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: mount | pastebinit
[22:41] <DF3D2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811033/
[22:42] <ct85711> anyone happen to know a workaround for the xdg.origin.url error, preferably disabling extended attributes in general (bug #1159724)
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo umount /media/x/LUBUNTU 13.10/dev/pts
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount --bind /dev /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/dev
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/dev/pts
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo chroot /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10
[22:44] <DF3D2> no errors that time
[22:44] <Bam_Bam> Hey, I've got a display config problem. The login screen is fine, but as soon as I log in everything is all distorted. If I tap alt to bring up the unity menu all the dimensions correct themselves
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: grub-install /dev/sdb
[22:44] <Bam_Bam> it's only the windows and desktop
[22:45] <DF3D2> update-grub ?
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: update-grub
[22:45] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, thanks!
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> exit
[22:45] <Bam_Bam> X11 is the window manager, right?
[22:45] <Bam_Bam> or is gnome the window manager on ubuntu?
[22:45] <TJ-> DF3D2: And don't get all excited and forget to unmount and eject the USB correctly, else you'll likely suffer data corruption
[22:45] <DF3D2> TJ-, it says its in use
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: pastebinit /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:46] <TJ-> DF3D2: You ain't finished yet
[22:46] <DF3D2> k
[22:46] <DF3D2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811065/
[22:47] <TJ-> DF3D2: that looks better
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: the correct root appears to be there
[22:47] <DF3D2> cool
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo umount /media/x/LUBUNTU 13.10/dev/pts
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo umount /media/x/LUBUNTU 13.10/dev
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo umount /media/x/LUBUNTU 13.10/sys
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: sudo umount /media/x/LUBUNTU 13.10/proc
[22:47] <Daekdroom> Which component is responsible for the desktop lock screen? Is it LightDM?
[22:48] <TJ-> DF3D2: umount /media/x/LUBUNTU\ 13.10/{dev/pts,dev,sys,proc,}
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: cheers. didn't know that
[22:48] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: hehehe I got fed up typing so many umounts!
[22:49] <cesare> hi)
[22:49] <Bam_Bam> Can someone help me figure out why windows are displayed wrong on my machine. terminal works which is how I got here but I'd rather be able to use the GUI
[22:49] <DF3D2> it's alive!
[22:50] <cesare> Where i can to speak with peopple from Ukraine?
[22:50] <DF3D2> for the record, I had followed chroot directions on the live-cd but it didnt work for some reason
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: :) up arrows does help a bit, but thats so much leaner :)
[22:50] <DF3D2> what was the difference when I got that /dev/null error and I didn't with your command hitsujiTMO ?
[22:50] <DF3D2> so i can keep it in my info file ;-D
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: you never mount /dev before /dev/pts
[22:51] <DF3D2> ah
[22:51] <DF3D2> idk what pts even is
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: terminals iirc
[22:52] <geirha> every time you open a terminal emulator, like gnome-terminal, a node is created for it under /dev/pts
[22:52] <TJ-> DF3D2: Pseudo-terminals (PTYs)
[22:52] <OerHeks> cesare, join #ubuntu-ua
[22:52] <geirha> same wth ssh connections
[22:53] <DF3D2> ahh
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: btw is {blah,blah} a bashism or is it posix?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: oh, wait i can just check :P
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: bashism :(
[22:56] <JuJuBee> Can someone tell me if they can get to http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc, I cannot get to it right now.
[22:56] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: you got it
[22:56] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: it's useful for sequences such as echo {5..21}
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: sweet
[22:58] <OerHeks> JuJuBee, wrong url, check https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:58] <OerHeks> JuJuBee, as Vbox is in the repos, that download is unsupported
[22:58] <JuJuBee> OerHeks: have you tried that link?
[22:59] <rustuptwist> if ubuntu is not loading from LiveCD (or usb for that matter) can I invoke terminal while disc is in drive and download what is needed to install ubuntu onto the (win) laptop?
[22:59] <JuJuBee> OerHeks: so I should just install from repo?  I think that is 4.2.?
[23:00] <OerHeks> JuJuBee, yes, use softwarecenter if you want support, asking if that download works is useless
[23:00] <JuJuBee> ok
[23:01] <JuJuBee> OerHeks: will that one load the extension pack as wwell?
[23:02] <OerHeks> JuJuBee, if you mean guest additions, i don't remember if it is included
[23:03] <JuJuBee> I just finished a clean install and when I try to run software-center from CLI, I get http://pastebin.com/sU43cVnj
[23:04] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Can be useful for generated formatted numbers, e.g. for naming of files etc: "echo {0001..9999..23}"
[23:04] <Guest78310> l
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: ls -l /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index
[23:06] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: ls: cannot access /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index: No such file or directory
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: ls -l /var/lib/apt-xapian-index
[23:06] <sk1special> so . watching movies on ubuntu 12.04 thorough shared folders on network. (other pcs windows) , = vlc media player wouldnt load fast enough, so i tried media player. worked fine. now vlc gets stuck on running cpu at 100% . so i kill tasked it. now it wont show anything on the network. (checked other pcs to make sure they could see each other still)
[23:07] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: same
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: and this is a fresh install?
[23:07] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: yes
[23:08] <JuJuBee> Ubuntu 64bitt
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[23:09] <second> hi all
[23:09] <alazyworkaholic> Fast user account switching fails very often to an unresponsive black screen & flashing cursor. How can I figure out what the problem is?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: also whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:10] <second> anyone here can give me some hint of the best supported hardware (that you can buy new today) that i have to purchase in order to have a 100% solid PC
[23:10] <second> ¿
[23:10] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[23:10] <JuJuBee> http://pastebin.com/S6vF5tjD
[23:10] <second> i will use it for web development (mostly frontend)
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> second: intel, intel, intel, and intel
[23:11] <second> my current computer has intel, although my graphics are causing me a lot of trouble
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> second: what graphics?
[23:11] <second> i have an i5 2400, P8P67m-pro, and AMD 6850HD
[23:12] <Zaretux> the  AMD GPU are problematics with Linux
[23:12] <DF3D2> Zaretux, im running 4 290s right now just fine
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> second: there's your problem, it's not intel :P ... the apu in the i5 is perfect for your needs
[23:13] <second> i've always had AMD, so probably that's why i was never able to switch...
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: he's not mining
[23:13] <second> no, not into mining
[23:13] <Dureiken> Hi, could I clone one ubuntu usb key to make a "save" ?? thanks
[23:14] <second> So its intel integrated graphics then...
[23:14] <Zaretux> DF3D2, I a HAve a HD5770. The 3d aceleration is OK. But the 2D acell is poor compared to nvidia and intel HD
[23:14] <second> will i be able to play some games with it? i dont play much, just starcraft
[23:14] <second> and not often
[23:15] <Zaretux> DF3D2, using fglrx?
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: not seeing hdd errors at least. can you also pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog
[23:15] <DF3D2> Zaretux, using nvidia proprietary fglrx
[23:16] <DF3D2> but im not gaming like hitsujiTMO said
[23:16] <DF3D2> and I did have trouble even installing the drivers a second time -- thats why I had to clone my install where it works
[23:16] <DF3D2> but they mine good
[23:16] <Dureiken> hitsujiTMO : could I clone one ubuntu usb key to make a "save" ? :)
[23:17] <Zaretux> I'm a casual Gamer...
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: you could use dd, but its dangerous if done you make any typos.
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: you could also maybe try clonezilla
[23:17] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: funny, it won't paste  for some reason.  I can open in Gedit, and paste to new text doc, but not  to pastebin
[23:17] <marlinc> Is there a Ubuntu server metapackage that I can install to create server environment from the mini iso?
[23:17] <Zaretux> DF3D2, the unnoficial amd linux wiki have good tutorials, I haven't issues in installation
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:18] <DF3D2> Zaretux, well it wasn't installing the drivers it was getting something to compile with openCL support -- so not really relevant for any issue you have sorry I opened my mouth -- carry on
[23:18] <second> i plan to buy a socket 1150 motherboard + i5 cpu, is there any brand/chipset/network/sound to avoid?
[23:18] <Dureiken> hitsujiTMO : does imaeUSB on windows could work ?
[23:18] <DF3D2> second, msi makes crap motherboards in my experience
[23:19] <DF3D2> asrock/asus/gigabyte are good
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> Dureiken: not sure, not heard of it so not sure how it works
[23:19] <Zaretux> DF3D2, I agree.. Unigine Valley don't work with opensource drivers..
[23:19] <second> nice,my plan was to go on asus
[23:19] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811205/
[23:21] <second> DF3D2, i had a very bad experience with msi too
[23:21] <DF3D2> yeah i will never buy an msi ever again
[23:22] <DF3D2> nothing they make
[23:24] <DF3D2> I have a bunch of asrock mobos coming for my mining farm
[23:24] <DF3D2> and asus 280x gpus
[23:24] <second> is it mining that profitable?
[23:24] <leonoc>  /join#ubuntu.es
[23:24] <DF3D2> yeah it is
[23:25] <DF3D2> right now I have 5 amd 290's and I make $40-50 a day
[23:25] <second> it makes me curious, but sounds a bit stressfull to get it all up an running
[23:25] <DF3D2> it is stressful
[23:25] <DF3D2> ive been fighting an issue for 24 hrs now
[23:25] <DF3D2> and losing money
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: hmm. a few odd warnings and errors but nothing major it seems. lets try: sudo pastebinit /var/log/installer/syslog
[23:27] <jhutchins> DF3D2: have you considered just buying bitcoin with the money you're spending on power for mining?  I understand the rate of return is much better.
[23:27] <DF3D2> jhutchins, my power costs are minimal where I live
[23:28] <DF3D2> jhutchins, I make atleast 10x a day what I spend in power
[23:28] <AHemlocksLie> I have a 12.04 server I need to upgrade to 13.04. I'm not entirely sure 13.10 is acceptable, so I need to control the version I update to, and I have to do it from command line. I'm having trouble finding a guide that can specify update version, though
[23:28] <second> AhemlocksLie, if your server is on production environment, please don't!
[23:28] <second> wait until 14.04
[23:29] <AHemlocksLie> They're servers I'm only using for a couple months, so waiting 3 months isn't feasible
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> AHemlocksLie: 13.04 is also eol in a few days
[23:29] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811266/
[23:30] <AHemlocksLie> I appreciate the advice, guys, but my main priority is getting functional. Then I can determine if upgrading again is worthwhile. It's nothing so complex that that's too cumbersome.
[23:31] <Ftk_> @find How to win friends and Influence people
[23:31] <Ftk_> gps
[23:31] <Ftk_> dms
[23:32] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: what's wrong with 12.04?
[23:32] <ct85711> well, if anyone is interested in a work around for the xdg.origin.url error message; you can set nouser_xattr in your fstab file for your root partition (vfat and ntfs does not support that option)
[23:32] <kostkon> AHemlocksLie, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: seing errors for your windows partition at leat
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: seing errors for your windows partition at least
[23:34] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: haven't booted that partition in over a year
[23:34] <kostkon> AHemlocksLie, better upgrade it now before it becomes eol
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: you need to run chkdsk on it next time you do
[23:35] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the tip, I will
[23:35] <AHemlocksLie> jrib, it doesn't have packages I need, and I don't quite understand what I'm missing yet, so I can't verify it's in 13.10, and I intend to figure this all out once I get up and running and have spare time to do so
[23:35] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: that's pretty vague.  Do you understand ubuntu's support schedule?
[23:36] <AHemlocksLie> Roughly, yes, releases every 6 months, LTS for some, I believe including 12.04. There's a release in 3 months, but I'm only using the server for 1-2 months, so it's a moot point
[23:37] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: that's the release schedule.  Do you understand the support schedule?
[23:37] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases look at the EOL dates
[23:38] <AHemlocksLie> jrib, that's good to know, but what I need to do is verified to work on 13.04, and if I can get things running, I can figure out how to do them right. As it stands, though, I have a dozen servers doing nothing, and my main priority is to make them operational
[23:39] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: as long as you understand you are choosing to run a release that is scheduled to be end-of-life (most importantly no security updates) at the end of this month
[23:40] <AHemlocksLie> I do, if I can figure out how. And if I can make it work with 13.10, I can and will upgrade them again once they work. But EOL hasn't hit yet, so I still need to work with what I have
[23:40] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: I ran apt-get update & apt-get upgrade and still software-center will not open
[23:40] <AHemlocksLie> So now that we've established all the reasons I shouldn't do what I'm trying to do and I've established that I intend to fix those problems when time allows, can anyone please explain how to upgrade from 12.04 to specifically 13.04
[23:41] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: if i were in your shoes i would try 13.10 first.  If issues come up that can't be quickly resolved, revert to 13.04 and then work on getting on 13.10 ASAP
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install apt-xapian-index
[23:41] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: you need to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 first, then 12.10 to 13.04
[23:41] <jrib> !upgrade | AHemlocksLie
[23:42] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: says it is already installed
[23:42] <JuJuBee> ???
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt-xapian-index
[23:43] <AHemlocksLie> They're servers, so I have to do things by command line. I found a guide advocating the use of "sudo do-release-upgrade –d". Will this update incrementally, then, instead of immediately to the latest release?
[23:43] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: read the link.  It tells you how to upgrade servers (and yes, you use do-release-upgrade but there's no "d" at the end)
[23:43] <jrib> AHemlocksLie: you can't skip releases unless you are going from LTS to LTS
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> AHemlocksLie: -d is to upgrade to a dev release, which is certainly not what you want
[23:44] <AHemlocksLie> jrib, ah, okay, I found it. Thank you very much for the help
[23:45] <rounin_> quit
[23:45] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811325/  <-  ls -l /var/lib/apt-xapian-index
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: try software center again
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: pastebin any errors from the command line again
[23:48] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: same problem...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811343/
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-sso-client ubuntu-sso-client-qt python-ubuntu-sso-client python-ubuntu-sso-client.tests
[23:52] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: no change
[23:54] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: I wondered if it was because I didn't sign into ubuntu one during install, so I just tried to run ubuntu one and it won't start either
[23:54] <sudormrf> I have a question about the program "scheduled tasks".  I have created a task in scheduled tasks that is supposed to perform a specific function, however when I try to execute the task it just pulls up the MAN page for that particular function and doesn't actually perform it.
[23:54] <sudormrf> any idea what I could be doing wrong?
[23:54] <JuJuBee> Wonder if I should do another clean install
[23:55] <onaxis> anyone here can help me install my audio hardware device on ubuntu studio?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: seems to be something in the sso stack thats causing the problem
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
[23:56] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: Would you do fresh install again?
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: yes. was your last install an upgrade?
[23:56] <Vivekananda> I have an issue with firefox in ubuntu 12.04 and had it before too. The "edit the bookmark" does not work in firefox. Normally the star symbol which bookmarks a page aslo allows user to edit how to store the bookmark but not working for me
[23:56] <AHemlocksLie> ...I installed update-manager-core, but I don't have the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file to edit, and I still can't run do-release-upgrade
[23:57] <BigTaxi> I could use some help with a problem involving wine and Age of Empires 2 HD
[23:57] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: No, I tried an upgrade on my other partition and it was acting funny so I did a fresh install over my OLD (11.10) partition
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: you may have installed over the 11.10 without formatting. make sure to format it
[23:58] <Kanalia> yo guys, got a crazy question
[23:58] <Kanalia> does anybody know a way to get PHP 5.5 on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[23:59] <Kanalia> the latest version on 11.10 is of the 5.4.* kind
[23:59] <Ben64> 11.10 is not supported any more, you need to upgrade
[23:59] <JuJuBee> hitsujiTMO: I am sure I formated it, but I will have another go at it.  I wonder if unetbootin didn't burn the ISO properly?
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> AHemlocksLie: have you tried: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[23:59] <Kanalia> yes, at least to 12.04, which is the last LTS
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> JuJuBee: theres signs in the install log that it wasn't
[23:59] <sudormrf> crontab -l lists the jobs I have setup, but executing them doesn't work from scheduled tasks.  is this a bug in scheduled tasks or am I doing something wrong?