[00:11] hello folks :) [00:15] I have a question about proprietary AMD legacy driver for X86.. Running latest Xubuntu and have Raedon HD 2400 old AGP card. I dont see any Ctalyst drivers [00:15] xubuntu190: you might not need them.. the open ones should be in use now.. [00:17] That would b great. I was recently running Debian's latest version and when I installed the driver I had the dreaded not supported box in lower right corner. I figured Ubuntu would have better driver support [00:17] xubuntu190: why? [00:18] Watch a lot of streaming video. I know its time to upgrade my old single core [00:18] xubuntu190: typically, if the vendor allows linux to be able to support a device, it will.. otherwise, the vendor may choose to support it independentl [00:18] the linux kernel is modular, and has the drivers it needs in there.. you can add modules such as the proprietary ones for ati hardware [00:20] Holstein, are you talking about recompiling kernel? I used to do that a lot in the old days lol [00:20] xubuntu190: no [00:20] xubuntu190: not unless you have access to a newer module from the manufacturer than ubuntu/debian and the general public [00:22] ok thx man [00:25] I noticed my HD 2400 card is now not only "Legacy" but now unsupported altogether in the normal legacy catalyst [00:25] Detected graphics controller: AMD/ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP Ubuntu 13.10 Linux Kernel: 3.11 X-Server version: 1.14 Your system is not supported by this driver [00:26] xubuntu190: is the open driver working for you? [00:27] Its pretty good. I think the hardware acceleration is a little laggy though with streaming vids which are more than say the smallest youtube defaults in size [00:29] xubuntu190: i disable compositing on older hardware [00:30] is there any easy way to disable compositing? [00:30] xubuntu190: its a tick box in the menu [00:31] xubuntu190: Settings Manager -> Window Manager Tweaks -> Compositor [00:32] I did it. Thx very much. I will see how this works [01:41] helo [01:42] whos the chat administrator [01:43] i need some help [01:43] zack_: general chat is in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel ..are you looking for the main irc channel? [01:45] no in need some help becuse i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 over xubuntu and then i tryed to download v 13.04 and stoped in prosess [01:45] hard booted i mean [01:46] hello [01:47] zack_: you were running xubuntu 12.04? and tried downloading 13.04? [01:47] no ubuntu [01:48] and i did them seprate [01:49] holstein_: [01:49] zack_: downloading means downloading a file ending in .iso. if interrupted, just download again. do you by any chanse mean that you installed, and the install process was interrupted? [01:50] no installing [01:50] i cant [01:50] zack_: you can, an will, if you have an interrupted download that you need to continue [01:50] zack_: you were installing or downloading? [01:51] hardbooting [01:52] zack_: if you were installing, and the install stopped, you will restart the installation [01:52] i cant it was a software update [01:53] i was half way done [01:53] zack_: is the system booting? [01:55] i hardbooted xubuntu and ubuntu 12.04 and then i did the same with ubuntu v 13.04 [01:55] zack_: ok.. so, you broke your system by interrupting an update.. correct? is the system booting? [01:56] no i have 408 updates pending and i cant wach youtube vids [01:57] and i tryded installing these updates but i couldent [01:57] zack_: you will close *everything*.. and open a terminal.. you will copy paste the following without the quote marks.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [01:57] zack_: you will *not* interrupt that proceedure [01:58] !paste | zack_ you will share error messages here, if needed [01:58] zack_ you will share error messages here, if needed: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:58] ok but i need your help deleteing ubuntu 12.04 and xubuntu off my system [01:59] zack_: im not following what you are asking.. if you have iso's downloaded, just delete them like any files [01:59] i dnt know how [01:59] ond ther softwares [02:00] i cant think of terminoligy [02:01] zack_: you'll need to put it into words, or i cant help.. can i help you find a channel that uses your native language? [02:01] i speck endlish im not very good at spelling it [02:02] zack what os are you currently using, is it windows? [02:02] endlish is my first leanguage [02:02] no xubuntu [02:02] hardbooted with ubuntu 12.04 [02:02] zack_: if you have an update that you have interrupted, you should address that, as i stated how above [02:03] ok [02:03] one sec [02:04] zack_: if you have 400+ updates to install, it will be more than a second [02:04] zack is this a new hard drive that you are trying to install xubuntu or ? [02:05] no ubuntu 13.04 [02:06] I have been reading the back and forth between the two of you and I'm confused what you're saying zack, holstein I understand [02:07] i dont know hacker terminology [02:07] lol [02:10] lol hacker terminology [02:10] im back [02:11] zack_: we are volunteers.. the commands i gave are not for "hackers", but for you to fix your system and apply the upgrades [02:12] zack_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what you need to try and run to complete upgrades, and see that your packages are as expected.. you can share errors via a pastebin, so as not to flood the channel with text [02:12] im just jokeing i just dont know my way around a comp as well as you guys do i just tryed to make light [02:13] zack_: use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat and "making light" please.. thanks! [02:14] sorry [02:14] it was a joke [02:15] zack_: i gathered that from where you stated that before.. do you have a support question a volunteer can assist you with? [02:18] zack I really don't think your first language is English, you are speaking it fairly good and this is an off-topic statement but if you don't understand the questions and solutions that holstein is saying to you you should get your help from folks that are capable of answering your questions, holstein is been [02:18] yes i used to volinteer here to until thay booted my ip off the server becuse he thought i was comitting piracy i was very helpful becuase i spech multipule leanguages [02:18] on the nose with his answers to your questions [02:19] i can undrstand that [02:20] * holstein thanks starrats for the kind words [02:20] i just get fed up with these irc people i just cant bare when people talk like i just dont get it [02:20] im sorry [02:21] off topic i know [02:21] thank you for helping me [02:22] but i dont know what to do about this upgradeing my system [02:23] hello [02:23] zack_: you had stated you had interrupted an upgrade,a nd you have 400+ packages to update.. [02:24] zack_: the command i gave, which i you welcome and encouraged to use and research, will either apply those updates, or give us a helpful error message [02:24] zack you do not need to apologize but you need to do is to understand what holstein is saying to you. Like I really don't know what you mean by 'hardbooting' but maybe I don/t understand your way of talk. When I asked you what os (operating sytem) you were using and i asked if your comp was running windows and you want to partition it or are you starting with a blank hard drive and you were installingxubuntu/ubuntu on it for the fi [02:24] rst time. [02:24] kinda the upgrade was my software , ubuntu 13.04 [02:24] the command again, in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [02:25] zack_: there will be no alternative but a software upgrade.. hardware upgrades cannot be made by software [02:25] If you halted in the middle, you may need sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt-get install -f [02:25] holstein you're welcome [02:25] maybe "hardbooting" is holding the power button down mid update [02:25] i alredy did that unit192 [02:25] or, thats what i was assuming [02:26] zack_: you already did what? both of the suggestions that Unit193 just made? [02:26] no its when you no the first one [02:26] zack_: run them again, and share error messages here.. [02:26] !paste | zack_ [02:26] zack_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:27] After doing those, I'd apt-get dist-upgrade like holstein said. [02:27] hardbooting is when you have multipul softwares in one software [02:27] i am runing that command curently [02:27] zack_, please run the commands then pastebin [02:28] ...dualbooting? [02:28] unless he means he has added multiple sources.. like "multiple softwares in one software" meaning 12.04 repos and 13.04... that would be bad [02:29] otherwise, that could mean virtualization.. or anything, since typically "softwares" are run in a group like that.. not just one piece of software at a time.. alone [02:30] yes i mean dual booting thanks i was not sure if i was useing the wright word [02:31] zack_: you'll address the issues seperately.. [02:31] i couldnt paste [02:31] in pastebin [02:31] zack_: share why [02:31] idk [02:32] i can in privat chat [02:32] zack_: the chat doesnt have anything to do with the pastebin [02:32] zack_, post the pastebin link here for all of us to see [02:32] and u could [02:32] i cant paste in pastebin [02:33] why not [02:33] zack_: you go to http://paste.ubuntu.com, paste your text, and click "paste" and you get a URL like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6806303/ [02:33] idk i really dont know [02:33] zack_: can you open http://paste.ubuntu.com ? [02:33] i try agin [02:33] use a browser, like FIREFOX or IE [02:34] im useing firefox [02:34] agin? [02:37] ok i did it its under zack [02:37] give us the link [02:38] there is no url [02:38] ? [02:38] idk [02:38] one sec [02:38] never mind [02:39] you need to copy and paste the output from the commands given to you at that site, save, then give us the url [02:39] i did there was no url [02:39] you need to hit 'save' [02:39] i dont know how thats posable [02:40] i mean the url [02:40] open firefox [02:40] i have firefox open for the irc [02:40] open a blank page in firefox [02:41] http://xubuntu.org/irc/ [02:41] my terminal is gone [02:41] idk [02:41] did you open a blank page in ff [02:42] i have an idea that knowone will like [02:42] please answer my question zack_ [02:42] no i dnt yet [02:42] please do so now [02:43] ok [02:43] paste.ubuntu.com [02:43] go to that site [02:43] ok [02:43] now open a terminal [02:43] ok [02:44] put the commands given you in the terminal [02:44] what commands [02:45] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:45] that might take a while [02:45] we live here [02:46] what [02:46] we live here [02:46] what dose that mean [02:47] we can wait [02:47] oh ok [02:47] ok its done [02:47] one sec [02:47] now copy and paste from the terminal to the website [02:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6806357/ link [02:49] looks OK in there to me, so far [02:50] how sombody gives me the command to sing out of my user and i give them the password and thay manualy look at it [02:50] zack_: you need to not give that password to anyone [02:50] in privat chat [02:50] zack_: if you have, in the past, then, you need to reinstall, and not give it to anyone [02:50] sing? [02:51] sign out* [02:51] good night folks have fun! [02:51] to my frend at irc chat i psyicaly know him [02:51] pk gn [02:54] hello [02:54] !patience | zack_ [02:54] zack_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [02:54] what for [02:54] zack_: i have already shared my feeling about you having given your password to others.. it looks like your system is upgraded [02:54] zack_: whats the issue? [02:56] i cant use youtube or turn up my volume and i still want to delete xubuntu+ ubuntu 13.04 [02:57] and about passwords i was skeptical about it at first [03:01] zack_: youtube is flash [03:02] you can opt-into html5, and try that.. https://www.youtube.com/html5 [03:02] i know i dnt know how to install even though i have it downloaded [03:03] you can use the chrome browser, not chromium [03:03] i dont have chrome [03:03] http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [03:03] zack_: i realize that you dont have chrome.. thats why i suggested it.. it has the currectly supported chrome [03:05] i dont care bout youtube right now how do i uninstall ubuntu 13.04 [03:05] and xubuntu [03:06] and put what in its place [03:06] ubuntu 12.04 i alredy have downloaded [03:07] zack_: you install whatever you like over it [03:07] zack_: you dont uninstall operatingsystems like applications, necessarily [03:07] i alredy have 12.04 installed i want 13.04 out [03:08] zack_: then, remove it.. you will use a partition manager to remove the paritions.. and you can resize the 12.04 to take up the space [03:09] zack_: its not trivial and you should have backups before managing partitions.. you can break the hard drive setup [03:09] i dont know how [03:09] zack_: if i were you, i would leave it alone [03:09] i need to do stuff that i cant do now [03:10] how did you install multiple OSes [03:10] can you help me [03:10] dual boot [03:10] 3 OSes? [03:10] 2.5 [03:11] two of ubuntu and one of xubuntu [03:11] zack_: you are already dualbooting [03:11] thats three [03:11] no xubuntu + ubuntu 12.04 [03:11] and .5 ubuntu 13.04 [03:12] zack_: xubuntu *is* ubuntu [03:12] and how did you do that [03:12] zack_: so, you have 2 ubuntu 12.04's, and a broken 13.04, then? [03:12] there 99% the same [03:12] unless you put multiple partitions [03:13] zack_: you can use gparted to do whatever you like with the partitions.. remove, resize.. if i were you, i would leave them alone.. [03:14] just lisen i had xubuntu and upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and after that i tryed to go for ubuntu 13.04 but stoped in the middle [03:15] zack_: you had xubuntu 12.04? and upgraded to ubuntu 12.04? [03:15] thats more of a switch than an upgrade.. so, you switched from xubuntu to ubuntu 12.04? [03:15] no xubuntu 11.10 [03:16] zack_: so, you had 11.10? and upgraded to 12.04? then, you tried to upgrade to 13.04? [03:16] yea [03:16] zack_: you cant.. AFIAK.. you'll need to go through the update manager, from 12.04 to 12.10, to 13.04 [03:17] zack_: i would do a fresh install.. takes much less time, and you can address your backups at that poing [03:17] i tryed to do so [03:17] point* [03:17] zack_: you tried to do what? 12.04 to 12.10? [03:17] no 12.04 to 13.04 [03:18] zack_: right.. as i just stated, and you agreed.. you cant [03:18] zack_: you have to first go 12.10.. 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 [03:18] not any more [03:18] zack_: if you want to go from 12.04 to 13.04, you use the update manager, and go to 12.10 first.. understand? [03:19] if you added repos, and changed sources, and tried something advanced, and stopped it, i suggest a fresh install [03:19] i cant [03:19] zack_: ok.. then what are you tring to do, friend? [03:19] there is no one step upgrade path there zack_ [03:20] zack_: you are not telling me what you did to try and upgrade from 12.40 to 13.04.. if you tried to skip 12.10 by force, that is bad [03:20] i cant explain i can only show you [03:20] 12.04* [03:20] zack_: feel free to show us.. use imagebin for screenshots.. the pastebin for text [03:20] that would call for a complete reinstall at this point [03:21] i dont know how to do any of that stuff [03:21] zack_: you'll need to learn how to share the information or we cant help [03:21] reinstall? [03:22] like an install, but one more time [03:22] i know how you guys dont agree with my methods [03:22] and, at this point, a reinstall would be a great time saver.. it'll take like 10 minutes, and you're done [03:22] zack_, did you just change sources.list? [03:22] zack_: its not a matter of agreeing.. if you tried to go from 12.04 to 13.04, you broke the system [07:25] hello [07:53] Hi. I hope you guys can help me with some troubleshooting, that google couldnt help me with --- I am trying to reassign the shortcuts for the window manager. When I do it in the preferences, all works fine. But after another logon, it won't work anymore. My config is still in the preferences window though and gets reactivated once I reassign another key again. So it seems the config somehow isnt executed on log on. .....Is that a known [07:53] problem somehow? Workarounds? [07:54] (For the sake of completeness: I assigned Super+Q for maximizing and Super+W for window closing) [07:56] Saucy? [07:57] yes [07:57] What happens if you killall xfwm4 when that happens? [07:57] youll probably see me quitting the irc? :D [07:57] hang on. i'll log onto irc from another machine [07:58] It sounds like it *might* be the problem where xfsettingsd starts after xfdesktop/xfwm. [07:58] How about screen title fonts, good or different? [07:58] uhm. which fonts? [07:59] Window titles, "Firefox" "Terminal", etc. [07:59] ah. they look fine to me [07:59] sort of an embossed font [07:59] not a designer though...so i am not sure i would be able to tell ;) [08:00] Yes, but are they different when it's "out of sync"? [08:00] i'll check. one moment [08:00] I may be off base, but only thing I can think of that might do it. [08:01] is there a way to force reloading the config? so i could put it in the startup somehow? [08:02] For xfwm or another application? :P [08:02] ok. testing your killall theory :D [08:04] hm ok. that didn do it [08:04] on another note...i apparently ignored a crash reporter dialog all the time [08:05] Yep, I turned it off long ago. [08:05] it says /usr/bin/Xorg crashed during my log on [08:05] weird [08:05] /var/crash [08:07] i guess i will just send in the report then. and...hope for the best [09:05] anyone on? [09:06] hey the email link to send in an update request is only an icon [09:06] i can't send an email cuz i don't know how to set up my email output stuff [09:06] anyone know the email address? [09:06] they say if you have a request to send an email [11:59] hello, can i install nvidia cuda toolkit 5.5 on xubuntu 13.10 if nvidia page shows version only for ubuntu 10.04, 12.04 and 12.10? [12:11] hello [12:11] hi [12:29] Hi [12:29] is it possible to make new item iin main menu in xubuntu 14.04? [12:30] Is it lxde menu editor or is it alarcade menu editor? [12:30] in 13.10 it was impossible to make new items.. and I dont want to install something that wont work [12:34] hello [12:34] peyam, xubuntu 14.04 will use menulibre 2.0. [12:35] nicfer, hello [12:37] when I try to add a new menu item to the menu, it appears on the 'other' submenu, even if I select other categoryç [12:37] very good [12:38] nicfer, uname -a [12:38] what distro? [12:41] you probably could edit the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications [12:51] xubuntu... [12:52] 13.10? [12:52] yes [12:52] yes.. its a known problem. use the lxde menu editor [12:52] I had same problem [12:58] where's the .desktop files of the menu? [13:33] I can't find the .desktop files to edit my custom menu entry [14:21] Hallo. Does anybody know where Xubuntu keeps its sound settings? I would like to manually adjust the settings. [15:16] Hello [15:16] Hello [15:17] Sup [15:18] !ask [15:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:19] !hello [15:19] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [15:19] ooh - that was the one ... [15:20] anybody knows something about average xubuntu boot time on netbooks? [15:22] Hello i need help with hybrid gfx on my lappy,wanna disable egpu and keep only igpu,dont wanna install proprietary drivers for this purpose, am sure there is a way kindly gimme some pointers [15:25] Lols looks like nobody has answers:/ [15:26] dunno what the ? was lol [15:27] (willowpillow) Hello i need help with hybrid gfx on my lappy,wanna disable egpu and keep only igpu,dont wanna install proprietary drivers for this purpose, am sure there is a way kindly gimme some pointers [15:27] ^this [15:30] not sure sorry [15:30] is it amd or intel [15:44] Amd [15:45] willowpillow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450 might be worth a look [15:51] hello! [16:43] hi this is my first time to use this. i've using xubuntu for more than a year now. last night it wont boot up, just up to the splash screen. can somebody please help me? === Nyan is now known as Nyankiyoshi [18:11] Hello all, I have a question if two-finger scroll on a trackpad is possible with Xubuntu 13.10? [18:12] yes [18:12] if your trackpad supports it [18:12] I see, I was looking for an option in the settings manager but did not see it there. [18:13] just install gpointing-device-settings [18:13] and it will appear in there [18:13] Thank you TheSheep, I will try that. === m00se is now known as Guest21010 [18:46] hi yall === Guest21010 is now known as m00se [18:48] hello?? [18:49] !hello | nut [18:49] nut: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [18:50] hows it going knome [18:51] !offtopic | nut [18:51] nut: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [18:52] sry im just checkin it out some my friend lol [18:53] i am having a prob with xubuntu i cant get the volume icon back up in the task bar for some reason === GTB3NW is now known as GTB3NW_AWAY [18:59] how can i get the onboard keyboard to stop starting when xubuntu starts every time ?? [19:38] nut: for the keyboard, try going to Menu > Settings Manager > Sessions and Startup. First, see if you see it enabled in Application Autostart. If not, go to the Session tab and click "Clear Saved Session" [19:38] also, make sure you exit out of the keyboard before you reboot. i think you'll see an icon for it in the tray by your clock if it's still running === Guest63085 is now known as ponbiki [20:29] hello [20:30] !hello [20:30] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [20:31] I am very new to Ubuntu. I had a friend install it for me, but I watched him. I don't really know my way around the terminal very much. My screen is offset about 2% to the right. I don't believe this is a monitor problem because i know how to adjust monitor settings. Help! [20:31] how is it connected? vga? [20:32] My curser touches the very edge of the left side of the screen, so it is properly aligned, but the right side is extended some how b a little so that it is difficult to close a window in full screen. [20:32] Yes, VGA. [20:33] if it has DVI or something else, so yourself a favor and get a cable ;) [20:33] *do [20:33] I'm not sure what you mean. [20:34] I didn't have this problem before switching to ubuntu. [20:37] well VGA is analog, digital connections like DVI won't have such issues [20:38] Ah. Well that is a bummer. === SeaHoers is now known as Guest83308 === Guest83308 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest80559 [21:11] Newbie needing help in connecting wireless to network. No windows just 13.04 === Guest80559 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest94177 [22:05] I'm using Lightning to manage my agendas, but the lcal time and the time of events in Lightning and on the google calender (syncronized) differ one hour (19.00 at Lightning, 20.00 at google). What can i do? === Guest83308 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest9974 [22:48] I can't find the .desktop files to edit my custom menu entry [22:51] nicfer: have you tried ''locate .desktop'' ? [22:52] nicfer: for personal customization I think they are in ~/.local/share/applications/ [22:56] I've found it under a weird name [22:56] now how can I modify it to move the entry to another submenu? [23:01] nicfer: I think that would be the Categories value [23:02] nicfer: googling .desktop categories finds a couple of places that lists "registered categories" [23:02] nicfer: but if you look into other .desktop files you find other categories too === Guest9974 is now known as m00se