| Unit193 | Logan_: Howdy, what's the likelihood of an update getting in that really diverges from Debian, if Debian has a fairly active maintainer? | 08:18 |
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| Logan_ | Unit193: It really depends on the package. I'm actually about to go to sleep. | 08:19 |
| Unit193 | Logan_: I'd hope, at 0319. Sleep well. | 08:19 |
| Unit193 | Thanks | 08:19 |
| Logan_ | :) | 08:21 |
| geser | Unit193: what kind of update and which package? | 10:53 |
| Unit193 | dropbear, split out a dropbear-initramfs, updated to dh7, updated to latest upstream, updated init script, added building of the scp module and in the initramfs hook to install it as bin/scp, and maybe smaller things or something I'm missing... | 10:57 |
| Unit193 | I'm guessing a big no, but may as well ask. | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | why wouldn't most of those be done in Debian? | 11:01 |
| * ogra_ wonders how they make sure you have properly working networking inside the initrd for that | 11:02 | |
| cjwatson | the thing people usually choose not to think about is that large divergences are an *ongoing* cost, and need corresponding benefit - fiddling about with the packaging system (dh7, init script, etc.) rarely have anywhere near the benefit required | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | work with the Debian maintainer instead | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | there's a reason I ended up being (effectively) the Debian grub2 maintainer rather than just doing all the work in Ubuntu, for instance :) | 11:03 |
| cjwatson | this way I have to do much less scutwork with merges | 11:03 |
| Unit193 | cjwatson: Sure, and I understand and get that, just figured I'd ask since I already did it for myself. | 11:04 |
| Unit193 | ogra_: And the initramfs stuff was already there, I just made it more of an option. It uses a function to bring it up, or can use the ip= boot option. | 11:04 |
| geser | isn't the dropbear Debian maintainer looking for help with initramfs support? | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | Unit193, yeah, i was just curious | 11:06 |
| Unit193 | I didn't do much with that though, outside of the package I have .profile so when you ssh in it'll ask you for the password. Biggest thing I changed in there is used pidof dropbear to forably close ssh connections out of the initrd when the system resumes booting. | 11:07 |
| geser | Unit193: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/01/msg00289.html , so I'd propose to work with the Debian maintainer to improve the initramfs support for both Debian and Ubuntu | 11:08 |
| Unit193 | geser: Again, not the part I did, or likely can, do much with. :/ | 11:09 |
| Unit193 | Thanks for responding! Got the answer(s) :) | 11:10 |
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