[00:19] <MavKen> anyone have experience with installing Zurmo?
[00:19] <alberge> hey folks, I've been using HVM images from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[00:20] <alberge> but noticed that there aren't any for us-west-1
[00:21] <sarnold> alberge: hrm, I see us-west-1 images for trusty, saucy, raring, quantal, precise, oneiric (!), natty(!), maverick(!), lucid, karmic(!), and hardy(!)
[00:21] <alberge> specifically hvm
[00:21] <sarnold> ooooo
[00:22] <alberge> (in order to run the shiny new i2 SSD-backed instances, which are only available on hvm)
[00:23] <sarnold> smoser: are you the right one to ask about hvm AMIs at http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ ? us-west-1 doesn't appear to have any hvm instances
[00:23] <smoser> is there hvm in us-west-1 ?
[00:24] <sarnold> good question :) hehe
[00:25] <smoser> it would appear there is.
[00:29] <smoser> and yeah, alberge we should have them.
[00:29] <smoser> utlemming, ^
[00:29] <smoser> it seems that there are hvm in all regions now.
[00:29] <smoser> at least i see 'hvm/amzn-ami-hvm-2012.09.0.x86_64-ebs' in all regions
[00:30] <smoser> err... amazon/amzn-ami-hvm-2012.09.0.x86_64-ebs
[00:30] <utlemming> smoser: looking now
[00:30] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811533/
[00:31] <utlemming> sarnold: you're right, its not show the ami for us-west-1
[00:31] <sarnold> utlemming: thank alberge, I just poked smoser, I figured he'd know :) hehe
[00:32] <smoser> i didn't realize there was hvm in all regions.
[00:32] <smoser> i use ec2 (and pay attention to it) so much less than i used to
[00:32] <smoser> as there are other options now
[00:34] <utlemming> smoser: I didn't realize that either
[00:34] <utlemming> ths will get fixed asap
[00:40] <MavKen> digitalocean has ubuntu images... it is great
[00:40] <MavKen> on SSD
[00:44] <smoser> MavKen, yeah, but they're not the cloud images.
[00:44] <smoser> no cloud-init.
[00:44] <smoser> what fun is that.
[00:44] <MavKen> oh ok
[00:44] <smoser> :)
[00:44] <smoser> just kidding. really, they're price-performance really, *REALLY* hard to compete with.
[00:45] <smoser> i use them for toying around.
[00:45] <MavKen> yeah... I've always had shared hosting in the past but ubuntu server at home... have learned alot about the server side since leaving hostgator shared
[00:46] <MavKen> moved 21 of my clients to one $10 droplet and never have performance issues (all small sites, average 1k hits a month)
[00:46] <smoser> i still have shared hosting @brickies.net on dreamhost.
[00:46] <smoser> you can't beat the price.
[00:46] <MavKen> nope
[00:46] <smoser> i split, *split* a $9/month plan at dreamhost :)
[00:46] <sarnold> heh, how many gigs of storage are you up to on dreamhost? :)
[00:46] <MavKen> I took one look at AWS for the free year but damn that control panel is too much
[00:46] <MavKen> haha
[00:47] <smoser> for a while i had cirros-cloud.net serving images off of dreamhost.
[00:47] <sarnold> hahah, nice :)
[00:47] <smoser> http://download.cirros-cloud.net/
[00:47] <smoser> i forget the traffic, but I calcualted it at like $60 a month in traffic.
[00:47] <smoser> i moved it to cloud files on rackspace because they gave openstack committers $500/month credit
[00:47] <smoser> (and it is now a lot faster download)
[00:48] <sarnold> that $500 was PER MONTH?
[00:48] <sarnold> zounds :)
[00:48] <smoser> yea. for 24 months.
[00:48] <smoser> up to $500 credit.
[00:50] <smoser> yeah, so cirros has done 107.19 GB in traffic in 11 days of this billing cycle. on cloud files.
[00:51] <smoser> so that $60 is high. but easily it was doing $30 in traffic out of dreamhost on my $9/month plan.
[01:12] <alberge> thanks smoser, it seemed like it was just an unintentional omission
[01:12] <alberge> another question: is there a reason that all the hvm AMIs are EBS-backed rather than instance-store?
[01:12] <smoser> :)
[01:12] <smoser> well, initially thats all there was (i think).
[01:12] <smoser> now with the instance store's getting ssds, there makes sense to have them.
[01:12] <alberge> yeah that sounds familiar
[01:13] <smoser> so, yeah, that request has been made. i think utlemming is looking into it.
[01:13] <alberge> awesome, thank you both
[01:13] <alberge> anything I can do to help, or to get an update when you've built the new ones?
[01:16] <smoser> alberge, well, they'll show up on that locator.
[01:16] <smoser> also in the simplestreams data.
[01:19] <smoser> alberge, shameless sstream-query promotion:
[01:19] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6811720/
[01:45] <MavKen> is there a best practice of setting up hosting clients at /home/client/public_html or /var/www/client/public_html ?
[01:46] <sarnold> not that I know of
[01:49] <MavKen> ok
[01:50] <MavKen> i always run into permission issues... and I don't know why I have such a hard time with it
[01:50] <utlemming> alberge: we're blocked, but should have those shortly
[01:51] <utlemming> alberge: I hope to have them within a few weeks
[01:51] <alberge> that's instance-store backed ones?
[01:55] <alberge> utlemming: that's super exciting, let me know if I can help out in any way
[02:30] <axisys> added this in /etc/manpath.config and rebooted the system.. still does not show in manpath
[02:30] <axisys> MANPATH_MAP     /var/qmail/bin          /var/qmail/man
[02:30] <axisys> what gives?
[02:38] <axisys> I added the bin path to /etc/environment and I needed to reboot to get the MANPATH
[02:38] <axisys> is there a way to activate it without reboot
[03:43] <MavKen> if I am hosting several wordpress sites, is there anything wrong with doing everything as root and never creating a user?
[04:48] <utlemming> alberge: will do
[04:49] <utlemming> alberge: I've turned on hvm ebs for all regions, they are going to land with the next batch updates. Precise will with 12.04.4
[08:36] <omdreams-home> ping - anyone alive
[09:52] <DenBeiren> I'm having issues with my cron
[09:52] <DenBeiren> it's configured to shut down my server, but it doesn't :-)
[09:52] <DenBeiren> not as user, not as root
[12:37] <shredding> Hey all.
[12:37] <shredding> I have two servers and can login to both via ssh from my machine, but i cannot ssh from one server to another (want to do rsync).
[12:37] <shredding> I can't as well ping the other server.
[12:37] <shredding> And that's where my knowledge about networks end.
[12:37] <shredding> How could i investigate?
[18:11] <at54tl> hello
[18:45] <able> For some strange reason the 13.10 installer doesnt see my existing windows partitions (gpt layout)
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> able: have you loaded the installer in uefi mode or legacy grub/csm mode?
[18:46] <able> unknown
[18:46] <able> its a nehalem box, I guess there is no UEFI
[18:48] <able> how do I select between the two?
[18:51] <able> there is no uefi/csm setting in bios, I guess nehalem (the first Core iX-series) was before UEFI
[18:51] <able> windows works fine with the disk in gpt mode though
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> able: if you've a gpt disk then you should have a uefi setup. what version of windows is on the drive?
[19:13] <able>  server 2012 r2
[19:13] <able> so... 8.1
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> able: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[19:17] <able> i see whats wrong
[19:18] <able> i set the drive to gpt whole installing windows but I did not reboot
[19:18] <able> so.... it has a gpt header but is in reality mbr
[19:18] <able> shait
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> 2 secs
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> !fixparts
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> use this: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> its in the repo
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> hmm. install gdisk package to get fix parts. it will allow you to remove the false gpt info
[21:39] <makara> recommend a domain name registrar?
[21:40] <highvoltage> gandi.net
[21:41] <bekks> makara: "domain dealer of your choice" ;)