| starrats | I'm back | 00:58 |
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| Unit193 | Welcome back. Problem taken care of? | 00:58 |
| starrats | yes and thank you | 00:58 |
| belkinsa | Welcome back. | 00:59 |
| starrats | thanks, to answer your question belkinsa I have left a detailed message over on #ubuntu and no one got back to me. | 01:00 |
| belkinsa | Not #xubuntu? | 01:01 |
| * belkinsa is contacting the project lead, knome | 01:02 | |
| Unit193 | Umm, why? | 01:02 |
| belkinsa | If it's a Xubuntu problem, shouldn't go to the Xubuntu support channel? Knome might know, that's why I pinged him. | 01:03 |
| belkinsa | By the way, starrats, since you now have a Ubuntu One account. You can ask at www.askubuntu.com | 01:03 |
| Unit193 | It's the same as everything else... #ubuntu is an option, #xubuntu may be better but don't post to both... | 01:04 |
| starrats | my problem is that I have win7 and it has its own partitioning program and I have used wubi and another boot loader, two different times, I get to the purple screen with the little red dots going back and forth and then it goes black I see a little font statement at the beginning of all of this and nothing happens and after a bit I get one of those little 'spin clocks' in the upper left hand corner and it just stays and stays, | 01:04 |
| starrats | this is roughly a 15 minute adventure. | 01:04 |
| starrats | ah okay blekinsa | 01:05 |
| starrats | on the ubuntuone statement | 01:05 |
| belkinsa | Sounds like: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-completely-wipe-windows-8-and-install-linux/1416 | 01:05 |
| jenni | [ How to completely wipe windows 8 and install linux - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1bnD6FQ | 01:05 |
| starrats | Although I hate windows with a passion, my GF would have a screaming fit because she and I have identical Toshiba laptops I'm currently on Virtualbox | 01:07 |
| starrats | she needs my help a lot with windows every so often | 01:07 |
| belkinsa | Idea: get a Ubuntu sticker for your laptop to mark it as yours. | 01:08 |
| belkinsa | Or an Xubuntu one. | 01:08 |
| belkinsa | Sticker = printout of the logo and taped onto the lid | 01:08 |
| starrats | lol, but that's not the problem she wants us to have the same thing and she is petrified of linux | 01:08 |
| starrats | even tho I have told her it is cool | 01:08 |
| belkinsa | Did you try to show her it? | 01:09 |
| starrats | no not yet but soon, she doesn't even know I have set up VirtualBox yet and running xubuntu, lol | 01:09 |
| belkinsa | Why is she scared of Linux? | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | Wait, so she'd have a fit, because you installed another OS on to your own, unshared laptop? 0_o | 01:11 |
| starrats | don't know but she is frightened to a point about windows, I'm 61 years old and she is a little older and a grandma that might be the whole thing | 01:11 |
| belkinsa | Oh, I see. | 01:11 |
| belkinsa | Age. | 01:11 |
| starrats | yes age | 01:11 |
| belkinsa | Does she think Linux = all in command line or what? | 01:12 |
| starrats | she doesn't understand that linux does the samething that windows does for things she uses the computer for | 01:13 |
| belkinsa | Oh. | 01:13 |
| starrats | command line stuff, i have told her about that a little and it kind of freaks her out and in the same breath I said she would not have to ever do that | 01:14 |
| belkinsa | Really, I think the best thing, is show it to her and show that Firefox does the same as IE and Libreoffice does the same as M$. | 01:14 |
| belkinsa | Wait, do that on Windows first. | 01:14 |
| starrats | well I did install on her laptop Apache Open Office so she can use that | 01:14 |
| belkinsa | And tell her that command line is not needed for everyday users. | 01:14 |
| belkinsa | Close enough, | 01:15 |
| starrats | I have done that | 01:15 |
| belkinsa | And you guys have Firefox? | 01:15 |
| starrats | I was using FF but now I'm on chrome because she is on chrome | 01:15 |
| belkinsa | Look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu That could help you | 01:15 |
| jenni | [ StartUbuntu - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1bnECrC | 01:15 |
| belkinsa | Chrome works on Ubuntu. | 01:16 |
| starrats | and I am using chromium on xubuntu because ff went wacky the other day, lol | 01:16 |
| belkinsa | Could this video help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI&feature=youtu.be | 01:16 |
| jenni | [ What the Tech Industry Has Learned from Linus Torvalds: Jim Zemlin at TEDxConcordiaUPortland - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1bnEGHL | 01:16 |
| belkinsa | And http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/p/about-iamnewtolinux.html | 01:16 |
| jenni | [ Hello, I'm New To Linux! : About IamNewToLinux ] - https://j.mp/1bnEIzx | 01:16 |
| starrats | well the biggest hassle is that she is set in her ways on many things including her comp. lol | 01:17 |
| belkinsa | Ah, she is a ram. I see. | 01:18 |
| starrats | I'm going to show her soon my Virtualbox and show her xubuntu is cool | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | starrats: Do you use Pepperflash with Chromium? | 01:18 |
| starrats | she sure uis, lol | 01:18 |
| belkinsa | Good luck on that, show that video, if needed. | 01:18 |
| starrats | Unit193 nev er heard of Pepperflash | 01:19 |
| Unit193 | Only reason to use chromium. :D | 01:20 |
| belkinsa | But isn't it dropping Flash support? | 01:20 |
| Unit193 | Eh? | 01:20 |
| belkinsa | Chromium | 01:20 |
| Unit193 | I don't know, not my browser. And, it wouldn't be dropping flash anyway, perhaps PPAPI, but not flash. | 01:21 |
| Unit193 | *NPAPI | 01:21 |
| belkinsa | Nevermind, and I'm not even going to search OMG! Ubuntu | 01:22 |
| starrats | no currently ff is/or has 'exploded' in the upper left corner of FB and I use FB a lot, there's a good xubuntu page there now | 01:22 |
| starrats | and FB just didn't work on xubuntu but works fine on win7 | 01:22 |
| Unit193 | I'd recommend not looking there anyway. :P | 01:22 |
| Unit193 | starrats: Weird, works fine for the people using it here... :/ | 01:22 |
| starrats | what FB | 01:23 |
| belkinsa | FB? As in Facebook? It should work on every type of computer OS. | 01:23 |
| Unit193 | there=OMG!Ubuntu terrible site. | 01:23 |
| starrats | it could be a combination of things including VirtualBox, that is why I would love to partition my win7 HD | 01:23 |
| Unit193 | But by all means, if you prefer Chromium, use it. I myself use Xombrero quite a bit, and firefox as well. | 01:23 |
| * belkinsa wishes skellat was here | 01:24 | |
| Unit193 | What do you need him for? | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | Can always email. | 01:25 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, but I was thinking if he could help starrats. | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | Err. | 01:26 |
| belkinsa | Or not. | 01:26 |
| starrats | I'm just returning to linux, been gone for a few years, had a macbook and just stopped using it, I ran opensuse 10 and slackware about 8 years ago and forgot a lot of stuff, so basically I'm a noob again, lol | 01:26 |
| starrats | and was on freenode back when I belonged to #linuxforums | 01:27 |
| Unit193 | I was only back in '08, but think FN dropped the nick at one point, came back couple years later. | 01:28 |
| starrats | as you know Unit193 I have my own channel here and I had it back then and asked the freenode to give it back to me and they did | 01:29 |
| starrats | heck I even had my own weather bot | 01:30 |
| * Unit193 still does, but never uses it since he wrote his own script to do it. | 01:30 | |
| starrats | have a long time friend here on my other channel I go to and now he's on #xubuntu here occasionally and I asked him to help me with my problem. | 01:37 |
| * Unit193 wonders if he knows the nick. | 01:37 | |
| starrats | the nick is new but his nick name is adrenaline_ or adrenaline | 01:38 |
| starrats | new to that channel not new to linux, he belongs to #xubuntu-us-az | 01:39 |
| Unit193 | Wooww, dh_make... | 09:15 |
| starrats | good morning everyone! | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | Crap. | 10:57 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 10:57 |
| starrats | good morning | 10:58 |
| belkinsa | Do know when starrats will be back? | 14:10 |
| starrats | good morning to you all again! | 16:06 |
| starrats | sleepy heads over here too, lol! | 16:31 |
| belkinsa | Dang it! He is gone again! | 19:21 |
| starrats | good afternoon everyone! | 19:45 |
| belkinsa | Hey there, starrats. How are you? | 19:45 |
| starrats | I'm fine, how are you belkinsa? | 19:46 |
| belkinsa | I'm fine, just got my hair cut. | 19:46 |
| starrats | lol, I need to get mine it's almost an inch long | 19:47 |
| belkinsa | Any luck on showing Linux to your girlfriend? | 19:47 |
| belkinsa | Or getting Xubuntu on to your laptop/ | 19:47 |
| starrats | neither but I do have a question. | 19:48 |
| belkinsa | Go ahead. | 19:48 |
| starrats | I have been trying to install an iso with amd64 on the end of it would an ending with i386 make a difference? | 19:49 |
| belkinsa | Yes! It's a HUGE difference! i386 is for 32-bit machines. | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | Amd64 is for 64 bit ones | 19:51 |
| starrats | ah okay then I have been trying with the correct one I have win7 with 64 bit laptop | 19:51 |
| belkinsa | But you can run a 32-bit version of Ubuntu on a machine that can run 64 bit. | 19:51 |
| starrats | so I'm still stuck with the installation problems, lol | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | Okay, this might work. Try to install a 32-bit (i386) version of Xubuntu and see if that will work. But I think you should run the LiveCD and try it out first. | 19:53 |
| starrats | well when I was trying yo install or load ubuntu 13.10 64 bit version on my virtualbox it said it could not load and need an i386 iso | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | Okay, seems that you VB can only run the 32-bit versions. | 19:53 |
| starrats | but the xubuntu I'm using now on VB is working just fine, I'm chatting with you, lol | 19:54 |
| belkinsa | 32-bit versions of Ubuntu are the only option for computers with less than 2GB of RAM. | 19:54 |
| starrats | and it's 13.10 64 bit | 19:54 |
| belkinsa | I think it's becuase of the different requirements that two favours need. | 19:55 |
| belkinsa | s/becuase/because | 19:55 |
| jenni | belkinsa meant to say: I think it's because of the different requirements that two favours need. | 19:55 |
| starrats | ah okay will have to check my ram but it should be more than 2GB | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | Also, running off of a LiveCD and testing out on your main system is the way to go at time. | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | s/time/times | 19:56 |
| jenni | belkinsa meant to say: Also, running off of a LiveCD and testing out on your main system is the way to go at times. | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | VBox can do 64 or 32, just need to set it. Ubuntu 32bit uses a PAE kernel, so you can have more than 4G of ram with it. | 19:59 |
| starrats | I have used livecd aka a dvd and I did look I have 4GB ran with 3.48 GB available, so I'm still trying to figure out why I can't load ubuntu on a patitioned hd | 20:01 |
| belkinsa | Have you done your homework (read: research) on the problem to find the solution? | 20:01 |
| starrats | I have been reading it off and on, need to go to ubuntu help and see what is the problem | 20:02 |
| belkinsa | If not: check Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org) and Ask Ubuntu (askubuntu.com/) | 20:02 |
| belkinsa | http://askubuntu.com* | 20:03 |
| starrats | ok thanks for those links belkinsa | 20:03 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. | 20:03 |
| belkinsa | I don't if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date. | 20:04 |
| starrats | I woman aka my GF watches little ones during the week and I have to help her a lot, so my time is limited on the reading but will be making more an effort to find ou my problem | 20:04 |
| belkinsa | s/I don't/I don't know | 20:04 |
| jenni | belkinsa meant to say: I don't know if the Community Help Wiki would be a place to check, since the Doc team is having a hard time getting that wiki cleaned up and up to date. | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | starrats: If you have a newer computer it may have UEFI, which would require 64bit. | 20:06 |
| belkinsa | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 20:07 |
| jenni | [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHKDom | 20:07 |
| starrats | well my laptop is a toshiba and I bout 2 of them 2 years ago this July one for me and the other for GF and they had win7 installed on them and a bought a month later win8 came out, so I don't know if it has UEFI on it is there away to find out thru the control panel? | 20:09 |
| starrats | bought | 20:09 |
| starrats | and about | 20:09 |
| belkinsa | It's cool. | 20:09 |
| belkinsa | jenni here has a command where you can correct what you said. | 20:10 |
| belkinsa | foo | 20:10 |
| jenni | belkinsa: Here is there is here is here is there is everywhere there and here? | 20:10 |
| belkinsa | s/foo/foa | 20:10 |
| jenni | belkinsa meant to say: foa | 20:10 |
| belkinsa | And she also can give you the weather for your area | 20:10 |
| belkinsa | .wx 45066 | 20:10 |
| jenni | Cover: Clear ☼, Temp: 28.4°F (-2.0°C), Dew Point: 6.8°F (-14.0°C), Windchill: 12.4°F (-10.9°C), Pressure: 29.52in (996.85mb) Condition: Haze, Wind: Strong breeze 27.0kt (↑) - KMGY, 19:53Z | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | Temp: 25 F (-4 C) ~ haze ~ Windchill: 12 F (-11 C) ~ Humidity: 60% ~ Alert: Winter Weather Advisory ~ Observed: Sat 25, 14:52 | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | :D | 20:10 |
| starrats | I have a bot that gives me weather but it's owner is in the UK and I convert C to F for temps, lol | 20:11 |
| belkinsa | Check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_an_Ubuntu_has_been_installed_in_EFI_mode | 20:11 |
| jenni | [ UEFI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ] - https://j.mp/1mHLm93 | 20:11 |
| belkinsa | Please use the long link, but this for Ubuntu, not Windows. | 20:12 |
| starrats | okay, I have the links you gave me bookmarked for later perusal | 20:13 |
| starrats | .wx 44240 | 20:13 |
| jenni | Cover: Overcast ☁, Temp: 24.8°F (-4.0°C), Dew Point: 21.2°F (-6.0°C), Windchill: 9.9°F (-12.3°C), Pressure: 29.33in (990.43mb) Condition: Light Snow, Mist, Wind: Fresh breeze 19.0kt (↑) - KAKR, 20:09Z | 20:13 |
| starrats | so jenni is a bot? | 20:14 |
| belkinsa | Yes, jenni is a bot. | 20:15 |
| belkinsa | ubuntulog_, is another that just logs. | 20:15 |
| starrats | ah okay cool | 20:15 |
| starrats | never met a female bot, lol | 20:16 |
| belkinsa | I know of two. One is here and another is in another channel. | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | ubottu is female. | 20:17 |
| belkinsa | Really? | 20:17 |
| starrats | the bot I use on my channel and it's original channel is called Chief|Wiggum | 20:17 |
| belkinsa | Is DragonEyes also a female? | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | No. | 20:17 |
| belkinsa | I have jenni and ubuntulog2 in a channel that I run. | 20:17 |
| belkinsa | Oh? I though he was a she. | 20:17 |
| starrats | ? I have been using the win7 partition and format screen from the control panel and wubi shows up to help, I follow all the instructions and when I get to the last window asking me to reboot now or reboot later or reboot with cd help I choose the last one i.e. reboot with cd help, I presume it means the livecd in the D drive and when I reboot I get the purple screen with the red dots doing their thing and then nothing happens, | 20:27 |
| starrats | this is my problem in a nutshell | 20:27 |
| belkinsa | I remember. Sorry, but I can't help you any further. Can you try again in the #ubuntu channel? You might need to wait for someone to reply so keep the client/webpage open. | 20:28 |
| starrats | ah okay belkinsa | 20:29 |
| belkinsa | Or you can ask on Ask Ubuntu, if you can't keep your client/webpage open. | 20:30 |
| starrats | wish I could copy and paste, lol | 20:30 |
| belkinsa | Allow me. | 20:30 |
| starrats | okay | 20:30 |
| belkinsa | Lame try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816444/ | 20:31 |
| jenni | [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOKki | 20:31 |
| belkinsa | Or should I remove the timestamp and the nick? | 20:32 |
| belkinsa | Without the extra carp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6816449/ | 20:33 |
| jenni | [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - https://j.mp/1mHOXUG | 20:33 |
| starrats | thank you belkinsa :) | 20:34 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. Sorry for the long line though. | 20:34 |
| starrats | that's okay I copied and pasted to th #ubuntu channel now I will wait to see if anyone will help me | 20:35 |
| belkinsa | Okay, good luck. | 20:35 |
| belkinsa | Sometimes I have to wait myself when I need support. | 20:35 |
| starrats | thank you again | 20:36 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. | 20:36 |
| starrats | I would keep both xubuntu on VB and have ubuntu on my HD. Back in the day I had a partitioned hd with opensuse and slackware, would go back and forth | 20:37 |
| belkinsa | I once dualbooted, but I only have Ubuntu now. | 20:37 |
| starrats | If I had my druthers I would dump win7 and have ubuntu only on my hd but I cannot atm because of my GF | 20:39 |
| starrats | got my answerr from #ubuntu from a nick named Beldar, he/she states that wubi isn't used that much anyomre and I should do a standard install or use VirtualBox, so I think I will bypass this and continue with what I have. | 21:13 |
| belkinsa | Ah. | 21:17 |
| belkinsa | I see now. | 21:17 |
| belkinsa | But when the time comes, will you do a standard install? | 21:18 |
| starrats | Yes but I forgot how, that's why I have been using the win7 partition and format app. but everytime I try to install wubi shows up and if I bypass it nothing happens | 21:24 |
| starrats | I'm back, lol | 22:06 |
| belkinsa | It's quiet here like always... | 22:06 |
| belkinsa | And every other channel that I'm in. | 22:06 |
| starrats | same here, lol | 22:07 |
| belkinsa | What are you doing now? | 22:09 |
| starrats | watching a little basketball in the background and being on here, at this moment in time think I will just stick with xubuntu and virtualbox. | 22:12 |
| starrats | But will go get a couple new toys at the store in the beginning of February to try another adventure, lol | 22:13 |
| starrats | I know this is an ubuntu channel but I hope you accept me as a nick here | 22:13 |
| starrats | be going downstairs in a bit to start supper preparastions | 22:15 |
| starrats | preparations | 22:15 |
| belkinsa | And as a new member/face here? Sure, and we can help you get yourself in the team and get the loop of what happens around the LoCo. | 22:15 |
| starrats | thank you | 22:16 |
| belkinsa | Not a problem. | 22:17 |
| belkinsa | And to all, I should have e-mail to the list posted within the next ten minutes about our virtual Ubuntu Hours. | 22:18 |
| starrats | is it snowing in your area belkinsa | 22:21 |
| belkinsa | No. It did earlier this morning but i think it's moving north not south. | 22:21 |
| belkinsa | I live in the Greater Cinci area. | 22:21 |
| starrats | ah okay, been snowing cats and dogs most of the day up here | 22:22 |
| starrats | ah okay | 22:22 |
| starrats | I live in Kent OH | 22:22 |
| belkinsa | Yeah, I heard it's bad up there from my hairdresser who's daughter goes to OSU. | 22:23 |
| belkinsa | ALL: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/virtual-ubuntu-hours/1431 I will have the mailing-list copy up in a minute! | 22:23 |
| jenni | [ Virtual Ubuntu Hours - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/1feHf3I | 22:23 |
| belkinsa | The mailing-list copy is posted and should be in your in-boxes. | 22:26 |
| * belkinsa switches back to her normal self | 22:26 | |
| starrats | belkinsa if you are on a lot of channels that is cool because I have my own channel that I use just for almost anything that is decent. It's place to chat and not worry about using up this channel, per se in just everyday stuff, I know this channel is more like a business channel and the old #linuxforums channel was business oriented | 22:38 |
| starrats | if you want I can invite you to my channel, I did for Unit193 this morning | 22:38 |
| belkinsa | Sure, why not. i'm in someone's personal use channel | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | Everyone has a channel. :P | 22:58 |
| belkinsa | It seems. | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | I use mine as STDOUT or STDERR, also slightly Doctor Who. :P | 23:00 |
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